

      <h2 id="dealing-with-criticism-and-finding-joy"><a class="no-underline" href="#dealing-with-criticism-and-finding-joy">Dealing With Criticism and Finding Joy</a></h2>


        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>1:05</time>
      <p>
          You   know ,   ray ?   I&#39;m   curious   to   know   this   because   I   think   honestly ,   sometimes   I   forget   the   fact   that   you   are   often   criticized   in   the   sense   that   you&#39;re   a   public   figure .   Millions   have   seen   you   through   the   videos   and   all   the   different   stuff   that   we   put   out   as   a   ministry .   But   you&#39;re   often   getting   criticized ,   whether   it&#39;s   by   atheists   we   have   the   banana   man   thing   or   it&#39;s   people   that   accuse   you   falsely   of   heinous   things .   There&#39;s   that   potential   to   become   bitter .   How   do   you   deal   with   it ?   I   delete   them .   Have   you   rubbed   out ?   That&#39;s   nice   to   have   that   option .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>1:37</time>
      <p>
          I   get   great   joy   when   I   see   a   comment   something   really   nasty   on   the   YouTube   channel   by   saying   oh   thanks   for   sharing   your   thoughts .   Please   do   watch .   I   hope   your   day&#39;s   going   well .   God   bless   you ,   ray   Comfort ,   and   they   come   back   with   oh   same   to   you .   I   hope   your   day&#39;s   going   well   too ,   and   it   makes   me   laugh   how   you   can   use   love   to   touch   people&#39;s   hearts .   But   just   digressing   a   little ,   I   don&#39;t   think   anything   convinces   me   how   deeply   ingrained   we   are   in   a   spiritual   battle   as   to   when   you&#39;ve   got   the   potential   to   become   bitter ,   because   Satan   will   come   back   at   you   and   keep   bringing   that   memory   back ,   bringing   your   thing   up   Forgiven ,   I&#39;ve   forgotten ,   I&#39;ve   forgetting   and   back   it   comes   again   and   again ,   and   so   you   can&#39;t   stop   it .   And   that   brings   us   to   2   Corinthians   2 ,   verses   11-12 ,   which   I&#39;m   sure   you   know .   For   indeed ,   if   I   have   forgiven   anything ,   if   I   have   forgiven   anything ,   I   have   forgiven   the   one   that ,   for   your   sakes ,   in   the   presence   of   Christ   least   Satan   should   take   advantage   of   us ,   for   we&#39;re   not   ignorant   of   his   devices   and   if   anything   will   steal   your   joy   and   your   peace   and   your   love   and   your   kindness ,   it&#39;s   a   root   of   bitterness ,   it&#39;s   a   device   of   the   devil   and   you&#39;ve   got   to   cut   it   off   of   the   root .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>2:41</time>
      <p>
          Frogging ,   frogging ,   frogging .   We&#39;re   going   to   go   frogging   and   we   are   going   to   eat   hot   chicken   with   a   hee-hee .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>2:48</time>
      <p>
          That   sounds   like   the   beginning   of   Roh-hide .   Remember   Roh-hide .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>2:53</time>
      <p>
          Roh-drange .   I   never   watched   Despicable   Stuff   like   that .   Is   that   a   show ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>2:58</time>
      <p>
          Does   that   look   like   the   theme   of   Roh-hide   On   the   old   black   and   white   telly .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>3:01</time>
      <p>
          Oh   wait   wait ,   wait ,   oh   no   no ,   no ,   no ,   yeah ,   eastwoods   first   Rolling ,   rolling ,   rolling .   Roh-hide ,   did   I   steal   that ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>3:09</time>
      <p>
          too .   Yes ,   you   did .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>3:11</time>
      <p>
          Oh   boy ,   that   was   wonderful ,   Ray .   We&#39;ve   talked   about   this   before   on   the   podcast .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>3:16</time>
      <p>
          It&#39;s   a   highlight   of   my   life ,   and   I&#39;m   not   kidding .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>3:18</time>
      <p>
          But   I   want   to   dive   deep   into   it   today .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>3:20</time>
      <p>
          For   those ,   of   you ,   friends ,   let&#39;s   jump   into   it .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>3:22</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   you   like   that .   That&#39;s   a   good   little   plan ,   ray .   I   want   to   go   frogging .   So   Rachel .   Rachel   has   fond   memory .   Why   do   you   look   depressed ,   ray ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>3:34</time>
      <p>
          It&#39;s   nothing   to   do   with   me ,   it&#39;s   all   to   do   with   you ,   seriously   you   looked   so   dejected .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>3:44</time>
      <p>
          Okay   so   Rachel&#39;s   always   talked   about   this   frogging   thing .   Some   have   heard   about   it   on   other   episodes ,   but   for   those   who   haven&#39;t ,   what&#39;s ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>3:50</time>
      <p>
          frogging ,   greg .   We   had   a   woods   or   a   forest   behind   our   house .   That   was   about   a   mile   into   it .   We   found   this   really   nice   pond   and   it   had   frogs   in   it   and   when   I   saw   it   I   thought   money .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>4:02</time>
      <p>
          Because   you   can   take   it .   You   saw   green   in   the   top   one .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>4:05</time>
      <p>
          You   can   take   tadpoles   home ,   grow   them   into   frogs ,   sell   them   to   kids ,   because   they&#39;re   like   machines   that   hop   around   and   then   wind   them   up   Don&#39;t   put   batteries   in   them .   So   we   sold   a   lot   of   money   in   those   days .   We&#39;d   sell   frogs   for   two   bucks   each   and   it   gave   the   kids   spending   money   to   come   to   the   US .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>4:18</time>
      <p>
          I   forgot   there   was   a   filthy   lucre   component .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>4:20</time>
      <p>
          Yes ,   there   was   a   filthy   lucre
      </p>

      <h2 id="eating-frogs-and-random-topics"><a class="no-underline" href="#eating-frogs-and-random-topics">Eating Frogs and Random Topics</a></h2>


        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>4:22</time>
      <p>
            component .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>4:22</time>
      <p>
          Did   you   eat   them ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>4:24</time>
      <p>
          We&#39;d   never   eat   frogs .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>4:25</time>
      <p>
          Frogs   are   really   cute   they   taste   delicious   too ,   by   the   way .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>4:28</time>
      <p>
          The   plague   of   frogs   to   me   is   heaven .   I   couldn&#39;t   be   any   better   than   these   frogs   falling   from   there .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>4:33</time>
      <p>
          So   you   see   them   as   pets   and   wouldn&#39;t   eat   pets ,   right ,   ray ?   What&#39;s   that ?   You   see   them   as   pets   and   you   wouldn&#39;t   eat   pets .   You   would   never   have   frogs   legs ,   you&#39;re   leading   up   to   something   you   surreptitious   Arab .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>4:46</time>
      <p>
          How   did   you   know ?   No   wonder   there&#39;s   wars   in   the   Middle   East .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>4:50</time>
      <p>
          Chicken   right .   You   ate   chickens   right ,   yes ,   but   they&#39;re   not   pets .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>4:53</time>
      <p>
          I   wouldn&#39;t   eat   our   own   chickens .   Chicken&#39;s   nice .   Of   course   you   should ,   no .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>4:57</time>
      <p>
          Starving   to   death   on   the   break   of .   Oh ,   I   would   kill   them   and   eat   them .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>5:00</time>
      <p>
          I&#39;d   feed   my   family .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>5:01</time>
      <p>
          Definitely .   I&#39;d   say   come   here ,   sweetie .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>5:03</time>
      <p>
          When   we   had   chickens ,   I   tried   to   convince   my   family   to   let   me   feed   them   cayenne   for   a   few   weeks   before   we   slaughtered   them .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>5:10</time>
      <p>
          Like   a   live   marinade .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>5:12</time>
      <p>
          They   weren&#39;t   having   it ,   though .   That&#39;s   really   good .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>5:14</time>
      <p>
          So   you   still   got   chickens .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>5:16</time>
      <p>
          Nah ,   we   ate   them .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>5:18</time>
      <p>
          No   more   spolingel .   Yeah ,   ray ,   so   you   did   this .   You   used   to   go   in   the   water .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>5:25</time>
      <p>
          I   would   go   up   to   my   neck .   Much   the   kids .   They   were   very   interested   in   how   I   did   it .   I&#39;d   go   up   to   my   neck   with   a   net   and   catch   the   frogs   Tremendously   challenging ,   because   frogs   are   brilliant .   You   would   catch   the   frogs   or   tadpoles ,   frogs   and   tadpoles .   Oh   well ,   I   got   a   net   and   put   it   on   a   rope   and   threw   this   net   out   the   middle   of   the   pond   and   pulled   it   in   and   got   to   be   like   100   tadpoles   at   once .   Seriously ,   seriously .   So   why   did   you   still   go   in ?   Oh ,   to   hit   the   frogs ,   because   frogs   are   really   subtle .   Oh ,   you&#39;ve   got   the   tadpoles   with   that   You&#39;ve   never   seen   anyone   do   a   10-point   dive   like   a   frog .   They   are   incredible .   There&#39;s   no   splash ,   they   just   dive   in   and   you   don&#39;t   hit   them .   It&#39;s   pretty   amazing ,   it&#39;s   absolutely   amazing .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>6:04</time>
      <p>
          You   know   what   blows   my   mind   is   arithmetic   simple .   One   plus   one .   No ,   there   are   some   violent   frogs ,   some   violent   frogs .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>6:18</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   yeah ,   wait   what   they   hang   around   in   gangs ,   yeah .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>6:22</time>
      <p>
          How   did   they   start   the   first   tagging   group   in   your   ballin ?   Oh   wait ,   no ,   that   was   you   Teenage .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>6:25</time>
      <p>
          Ninja   frogs ?   No ,   no .   Have   you   guys   seen   that   there&#39;s   this   one   YouTube   channel   that   will   put   different   animals   in   a   box   together   and   they   put   frogs   in   with ,   like   centipedes   and   tarantulas ?   Oh   no ,   frogs   are   tremendous   at   eating   stuff ,   scorpions   and   they&#39;re   eating   like   these .   That&#39;s   awesome .   You   wouldn&#39;t   imagine   a   frog   eating   a   scorpion .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>6:49</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   they&#39;ve   got   these   incredible   tongues   with   sticky   stuff   on   them .   They   come   out   like   90   miles   an   hour ,   about   four   feet   almost ,   and   just   grab   it   and   pull   it   back .   And   they   used   to   catch   butterflies .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>6:58</time>
      <p>
          With   your   tongue .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>6:59</time>
      <p>
          No ,   white   butterflies ,   White   butterflies ,   and   put   them   in   a   cage .   And   I&#39;m   serious ,   it&#39;s   so   fascinating .   A   frog   would   turn   around   like   a   tank   Aim   and   then   dive   in   the   air   and   take   the   butterfly   in   mid-air   in   its   mouth .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>7:12</time>
      <p>
          It&#39;s   so   fascinating   Did   you   single   out   white   butterflies ?   Because   they&#39;re   privileged .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>7:16</time>
      <p>
          White   butterflies .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>7:18</time>
      <p>
          White   butterflies   eat   your   vegetables ,   so   they&#39;re   nasty .   Wait ,   wait ,   why   white   butterflies ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>7:24</time>
      <p>
          Because   they   eat   your   vegetables .   They   lay   eggs   and   the   grubs   come   out   and   eat   your   vegetables .   Other   butterflies   don&#39;t   do   that .   The   white   ones   are   just   nasty ,   Wow   right ,   I   never   knew   you   to   be   a   racist .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>7:35</time>
      <p>
          Frogs   eat   whatever   bugs   them .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>7:37</time>
      <p>
          Oh ,   is   that   original .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>7:40</time>
      <p>
          No ,   I   just   read   it .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>7:41</time>
      <p>
          Oscar ,   I   got   to   give   it   to   you ,   that   picture   you   sent   us .   That&#39;s   pretty   good .   Bed   bugs ,   bed   bugs ,   little   bug   cards   For   our   listeners .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>7:52</time>
      <p>
          I   found   a   picture   and   it   was   a   text   thread   and   it   was   like .   The   first   question   was   like   from   the   wife   how&#39;s   your   work   trip   going ?   In   the   second ,   the   response   from   the   husband   was   something   in   the   effect   of   it&#39;s   going   pretty   good ,   but   I   have   bed   bugs   in   my   bed   and   he   sends   a   picture   of   toy .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>8:08</time>
      <p>
          Volkswagen   bugs .   Now   why   would   a   wife   never   do   that   to   her   husband ?   I&#39;m   saying   what&#39;s   that   Rye ?   You   remember   that ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>8:17</time>
      <p>
          Oh   yes ,   it&#39;s   just   wonderful .   And   wait ,   but   was   it   a   frog ?   It&#39;s   a   frog   holding   the   neck   of   some   big   bird   who&#39;s   trying   to   swallow   it .   He&#39;s   got   the   neck   of   the   bird   in   its   hands ,   so   it   can&#39;t   swallow   the   frog   and   it   says   never   give   up .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>8:31</time>
      <p>
          That&#39;s   probably   based   on .   I   saw   a   video   of   some   animal   that   was   about   to   be   eaten   and   it   struggled   and   got   loose .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>8:37</time>
      <p>
          It   did ,   but   it   didn&#39;t   put   its   hands   around   the   throat   of   the   thing .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>8:40</time>
      <p>
          That&#39;s   true .   I   had   three   terrible   things   happen   yesterday .   That&#39;s   actually   six   Only   yeah   three ,   six ,   and   then   I   was   at   the   gym   and   I   dropped   a   weight   on   my   phone .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>8:54</time>
      <p>
          No ,   oh ,   you   did   too .   Yeah ,   look   at   this   oh   he&#39;s   got   a   punchline .   No ,   that&#39;s   no ,   it&#39;s   got   a   heavy   call   from   someone .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>9:05</time>
      <p>
          No ,   I   literally   dropped   a   weight   on   my   phone   and   it&#39;s   cracked .   And   look   at   its   bent   on   both   sides .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>9:10</time>
      <p>
          So   what   came   out   of   your   heart   when   that   happened ?   Did   you   say   praise   the   Lord ,   praise   the   Lord   because   my   phone   is   evil .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>9:18</time>
      <p>
          The   second   thing   is   on   my   way   home   from   the   gym ,   after   breaking   my   phone ,   my   car   broke   down .   Oh   Seriously ,   yes ,   it&#39;s   in   the   shop   right   now .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>9:26</time>
      <p>
          I   had   a   borrow   a   friend ,   so   things   happen   in   threes   if   you   yeah .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>9:28</time>
      <p>
          So   the   third   thing   is   and   this   is   actually   kind   of   a   bummer   I   this   one&#39;s   a   bummer ,   but   the   other   sure   not   I .   Was   responsible   for   proof   texting ,   which ,   if   you   know   me   that   I&#39;m   the   wrong   person   to   proof   text .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>9:44</time>
      <p>
          Uh   amen .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>9:45</time>
      <p>
          I   was   responsible   for   proof   text .   Sting   a   family   member&#39;s   gravestone   and   there   was   no   and   there   was   an   error   on   it .   No   this   is   a   joke .   Come   on ,   it   got   printed .   This   is   top .   They   called   me   and   they&#39;re   like   you&#39;ve   made   a   great   mistake .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>9:59</time>
      <p>
          That   was   a   big   build   up .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>10:01</time>
      <p>
          You&#39;re   such   a   doofus ,   okay ,   but   first   of   all   let   me   just   say   your   phone   right   there ,   total ,   what   happened   to   your   phone ?   Total   byproduct   of   pride .   Pride   because   you&#39;re   too   prideful   to   get   a .   Oh .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>10:16</time>
      <p>
          The   way   would   have   smashed   that .   No ,   it   would   not .   You   got   a   screen   cover   bro .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>10:22</time>
      <p>
          You   got   an   iPhone ,   he&#39;s   got   something   else .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>10:23</time>
      <p>
          No ,   he&#39;s   got   an   iPhone ,   but   he   didn&#39;t   get   a   guy   broke   phone .   Oh ,   but   if   it   was   face   down   and   the   weight   was   on ,   it   wouldn&#39;t   have   destroyed   it .   I   mean ,   if   it   was   in   the   locker   room   the   weight   wouldn&#39;t   destroy   anyway   you   deserve   it .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>10:35</time>
      <p>
          You   know   we   took   a   toll   the   other   day   at   our   house .   We   have   45   Apple   products   inside   of   our   house   To   Samsung .   Both   of   the   Samsung   ones   are   broken   in   there   in   a   drawer   45   mark .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>10:46</time>
      <p>
          That&#39;s   sinful   bro .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>10:47</time>
      <p>
          It&#39;s   crazy .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>10:48</time>
      <p>
          You&#39;re   a   sinner .   What   wait   are ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>10:50</time>
      <p>
          from   air   pods   to   Computers ,   to   phone .   Are   you   counting   like ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>10:55</time>
      <p>
          each   single   air   pod   to   that&#39;s   three   the   charger   and   the   two   every   charger .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>11:02</time>
      <p>
          That&#39;s   a   lot   that&#39;s   a   lot .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>11:04</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   ray ,   did   you   guys   collect   poisonous   snakes   and   spiders   in   New   Zealand   and   then   eat   them ?   There   isn&#39;t   any .   How   do   you   know ,   ray ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>11:10</time>
      <p>
          because   I&#39;ve   gone   out   of   the   country   searching   for   one .   Okay ,   if   there&#39;s   even   one .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>11:14</time>
      <p>
          It   means   you&#39;re   a   liar .   That&#39;s   right ,   and   Ray ,   you   sure   have   faith   in   people ,   don&#39;t   you   right ?   If   you   only   had   one   percent   of   all   the   knowledge   in   New   Zealand ,   is   it   possible   that   remaining   99%   of   the   knowledge   you   do   not   possess ,   that   there   could   be   a   poisonous ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>11:27</time>
      <p>
          You .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>11:30</time>
      <p>
          Ray ,   seriously ,   that&#39;s   one   of   the   best   illustrations   I   think .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>11:34</time>
      <p>
          you   know   it&#39;s   not   original   that   circle   99% ,   but   it&#39;s   brilliant .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>11:40</time>
      <p>
          I   love   it .   It&#39;s   really   good .   Yeah ,   we&#39;re   talking   about   friends .   The   atheist   tract   oh   yes ,   that&#39;s .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>11:45</time>
      <p>
          And   it&#39;s   really   good   and   there&#39;s   to   have   a   banana   on   it ,   but   we   took   it   off .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>11:50</time>
      <p>
          Wait ,   did   you   yes ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>11:52</time>
      <p>
          Yeah   the   original .   The   original   atheist   test   used   to   be   a   little   it&#39;s   like   a   chick-track   size   and   that   had   a   banana   on   it   and   a   Coke   can   after   the   whole   banana   man .   Yeah ,   so   we   decided   we&#39;d   better   take   it   off .   Wow ,   we&#39;d   put   it   back   on   there   a   comfort .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>12:06</time>
      <p>
          We   have   a   comma .   This   is   from   Molly   Maddo ,   15 .   Keep   us   laughing   and   learning   easy ,   greatest   person   in   the   world .   I   love   easy ,   easy .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>12:17</time>
      <p>
          Say   are   we   taking   bets   on   how   many   times ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>12:19</time>
      <p>
          easy   there   we   go   mentioned   in   this   one .   My   husband   and   I   love   this   podcast .   I   am   a   stay-at-home   mom .   Our   first   child   was   born   three   weeks   ago .   Congratulations   in   unison ,   and   listening   to   this   podcast   helps   me   pass   the   time   as   I   do   housework .   The   episode   on   redeeming   the   time   was   particularly   insightful ,   reminding   me   to   aim   at   what   the   Lord   views   as   being   truly   productive   in   my   day .   I&#39;m   always   blessed   by   the   truths   from   the   word   that   are   brought   to   light   on   each   subject ,   and   the   relationship   between   Ray ,   easy ,   mark   and   Oscar   keeps   me   laughing   throughout .   I&#39;m   most   blessed   by   the   example   of   love   and   humility   displayed   as   each   Share   truth   and   interact   with   one   another .   Thank   you   for   your   faithful   most   to   Christ   and   his   word .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>13:01</time>
      <p>
          That&#39;s   awesome .   Thank   you ,   molly .   Are   you   wrong ?   Oscar ,   you   were   mentioned   once .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>13:07</time>
      <p>
          Along   with   all   y&#39;all .   Molly ,   thank   you   so   much .   Yeah ,   I   made   Lord   bless   your   new   baby   too .   Hmm ,   boy   or   girl ,   I   don&#39;t   know   easy .   You   were   asking   Molly ,   boy   or   girl ,   I   don&#39;t   know   easy .   Or ,   as   EZ ,   if   you   haven&#39;t   chosen   a   name ,   that   was .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>13:29</time>
      <p>
          That&#39;s   probably   my   best   ever   the   basic   training   that   doesn&#39;t   mean   it   was   good   just   because   you .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>13:36</time>
      <p>
          I   loved   it .   Okay ,   the   basic   training   course .   Well ,   the   BTC .   Yeah ,   talk   about   a   blast   to   the   past .   23 ,   4   5,000   of   these   have   sold .   You   have   to   understand ,   friends .   This   is   not   like   a   small ,   tiny   little   item   and   that   was   just   a   one   lady   who&#39;s ?   trying   to   reach   a   husband .   Yeah ,   but   this   has   been   around   for   years   and   years .   It&#39;s   based   on   our   television   program   and   it&#39;s   got   eight   lessons   on   four   DVDs   for   CD   set   Containing   the   audio   portion   of   the   teaching ,   120   page   study   guide ,   300   gospel   tracks ,   30   second   and   three   minute   promotional   video   segments .   You   get   bulletins ,   inserts ,   all   kinds   of   stuff   in   there   so   you   could   do   a   course   with   your   church ,   and   that&#39;s   the   encouraging   thing ,   is   it ?   Churches   all   over   the   hundreds ,   thousands ,   of   millions ,   billions ,   it&#39;s   quadrillions ,   what   comes   after   quadrillion ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>14:24</time>
      <p>
          I   don&#39;t   know ,   I&#39;m   too   tired .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>14:27</time>
      <p>
          So   septillion ,   probably   not .   Um   yeah ,   so   make   sure   to   check   out   the   basic   training   course .   You   can   also   get   an   MP4   digital   format .   Don&#39;t   forget   the   Living   Waters .   Mark   the   evidence ,   study   Bible ,   all   that   living   waters .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>14:42</time>
      <p>
          Wow ,   that   was   the   word   mug   you   said   and   people   missed   it   mug .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>14:46</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   they&#39;re   still   selling   like   cold ,   like   mugs ,   pies ,   Hotcakes ,   cold   pies   why   not ?   Alright ,   friends ,   today   we   are   talking   about   something   that   I   struggle   with   every   day   with   my   three   co-hosts .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>15:04</time>
      <p>
          This   episode   is   all   about   easy   explaining   himself ,   boy .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>15:07</time>
      <p>
          I   need   help .   Yeah ,   freedom   from   bitterness .   Hebrews   12 ,   15 .  
      </p>

      <h2 id="the-dangers-of-bitterness"><a class="no-underline" href="#the-dangers-of-bitterness">The Dangers of Bitterness</a></h2>


        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>15:14</time>
      <p>
          Let&#39;s   kick   it   off   there ,   looking   carefully   Lest   anyone   fall   short   of   the   grace   of   God ,   lest   any   root   of   bitterness   Springing   up   cause   trouble   spring   up ,   do   you   think   of   like   spring   up ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>15:27</time>
      <p>
          Oh   well ,   I   was   thinking   that   let&#39;s   sing   it   Ah   and   by   this   many   become   defiled   when   you   came   up   with   this   one ,   this   was   your   idea   Seam   on .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>15:35</time>
      <p>
          Was   it   in   the   context ?   I   mean ,   because   it   can   go   both   ways ,   but   I&#39;m   curious   about   where   your   mind   was .   That   is ,   in   the   context   of   like   marriage ,   long-term   relationships   or   those   more   those ,   those   like   kind   of   big   hurts   and   pains   that   can   root   bitterness   and   another   word   as   my   old   friend   Alan   would   say ,   from   France .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>15:54</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   All   the   above .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>15:59</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   I&#39;ll   leave   up .   Yeah ,   yeah ,   I   just .   I   just   want   us   to   explore   this   Subject   together   because   it&#39;s   prevalent ,   we&#39;ve   all   dealt   with   it   and   not   once   for   me ,   and   it   can   creep   up   on   you   Super   quick ,   sure ,   yeah ,   so   that&#39;s   a   heavy   verse ,   hebrews   12 ,   15 .   Be   careful ,   right ,   look   carefully .   It&#39;s   a   warning ,   in   a   sense ,   lest   any   root   of   bitterness   and   I   like   the   fact   that   says   springing   up   so   define   bitterness .   Yeah ,   I   think   bitterness   carries   with   it   that   idea   of   long-lasting   resentment   that   ends   up   morphing   into   Sometimes   hatred ,   other   times   spite ,   other   times   vengeance   and   Unforgiveness   yeah ,   I   think   that&#39;s   a   big   part   of   bitterness   is   unforgiveness   murder ?   Murder .   Yeah ,   all   kinds   of   things   spring   up   from   it ,   and   you   know ,   I   think   that   the   biggest ,   probably   outworking   of   bitterness   is   bondage .   It&#39;s ,   it&#39;s   enslaving ,   mm-hmm .   You   know   I   can&#39;t   remember   who   it   was ,   who   said   it ,   but   we&#39;ve   probably   quoted   it   before   that   bitterness   is   like   drinking .   Oh ,   come   on .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>17:13</time>
      <p>
          Is   it   right ?   First   point   to   have   on   my   thing   like   drinking   poison .   Stop ,   are   you   guys ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>17:18</time>
      <p>
          Oh ,   that&#39;s   very   nice .   But   yeah ,   right ,   I   mean ,   it&#39;s   true ,   it&#39;s   like   you&#39;re   drinking   poison ,   expecting   someone   else   to   die   and   they ,   they   couldn&#39;t   care   less .   Yeah .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>17:26</time>
      <p>
          They ,   they   don&#39;t ,   they   don&#39;t   know   what   you&#39;re   going   through ,   they   don&#39;t   care   what   you&#39;re   going   through ,   it   just   is   what   it   is ,   and   it   is   a   terrible   place   to   be .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>17:34</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   the   full   quote   is   harboring   bitterness   is   like   drinking   poison   and   hoping   the   other   person   dies .   Who   said   that   the   more   I   feed   bitterness   in   my   heart ,   the   more   it   brings   death   to   me ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>17:45</time>
      <p>
          Wait ,   say   that ,   say   it ,   I&#39;m   sorry ,   say   that   last   part   again .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>17:47</time>
      <p>
          The   more   I   feed   bitterness   in   my   heart ,   the   more   it   brings   death   to   me .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>17:50</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   yeah ,   ray ,   are   you   writing   a   book ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>17:55</time>
      <p>
          No ,   I&#39;m   just   grabbing   a   wonderful   verse   from   Second   Corinthians   and   thinking   how   that   quote   is   nothing   compared   to   Abraham   Lincoln&#39;s   quote   where   he   spoke   of   unforgiveness   as   light   being   stung   to   death   by   1B .   Ooh ,   because   you   can   do   something   about   it .   You   just   have   to   forgive   and   it&#39;s   gone ,   but   you   just   don&#39;t   let   it   keep   stinging   you ,   stinging   you   and   stinging   until   you&#39;re   dead .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>18:13</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   yeah ,   man ,   there&#39;s   some   good   quotes   here   that   I&#39;m   excited   to   jump   into ,   but   let   me   first   share   one   here   by   Lou   Priolo .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>18:22</time>
      <p>
          Lou   Priolo ,   that   was   my   second .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>18:24</time>
      <p>
          No ,   I&#39;m   kidding .   Mentiroso ,   mentiroso .   You   know   what   mentiroso   is ?   Fire ,   wow ,   you   speak   Spanish .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>18:30</time>
      <p>
          Sí ,   por   qué   no ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>18:31</time>
      <p>
          You   guys   remember   that   song   from   the   90s .   Oh   boy .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>18:34</time>
      <p>
          Fire   and   Ice   by   Sticky   yeah .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>18:35</time>
      <p>
          Mentirosa   by   Melo   man   Ace .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>18:38</time>
      <p>
          There&#39;s   only   one   person   in   this   world   that   remembers   that   song ,   and   it&#39;s   you .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>18:40</time>
      <p>
          Okay ,   friends ,   if   you   remember   that ,   please   write   it   into   podcast   at   livingwaterscom   and   let   us   know   if   you   remember .   Mentirosa   Melo   man .   Ace   ima   ñana .   Otra   cosa ,   mentirosa .   You   remember   it ?   What   it&#39;s   just   happening ?   I   saw   him   live   in   concert   at   Notzberri   Farm .   Did   you   really   yeah ?   I   didn&#39;t   see   one   and   you   know   what ,   and   my   friend   Bean   Eric   Joule ,   threw   our   demo   tape   up   on   the   stage   and   he   actually   called   with   a   letter   and   he   actually   called   Eric .   It   was   funny   Anyway .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>19:09</time>
      <p>
          You   got   a   friend   named   Bean   I   missed   so   many   times .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>19:13</time>
      <p>
          If   I   talked   about   Bean .   Bean   was   on   our   episode .   Remember   last   time ,   what   were   we   doing ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>19:21</time>
      <p>
          Their   hip   hop   group   name   was   he   was   Bean   and   Izzy   was   Cheese .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>19:28</time>
      <p>
          Our   DJ   was   Burrito .   Seriously ,   what   is   this   though ?   Why   do   we   do   that ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>19:34</time>
      <p>
          It&#39;s   an   appeal   to   reason .   Wait ,   was   it   this   that   turned   into   this ?   Anyway ,   friends ,   what   Oscar ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>19:41</time>
      <p>
          Nothing   good .   I   thought   you   were   showing   me   my   picture .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>19:45</time>
      <p>
          No ,   it&#39;s   not   about   you .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>19:46</time>
      <p>
          Okay ,   stop   your   silliness .   The   scripture   likens   bitterness   to   a   root   Roots   have   to   be   planted .   So   what&#39;s   the   seed   that   sprouts   into   a   root   of   bitterness ?   When   planted ,   it&#39;s   a   hurt .   When   someone   hurts   you ,   it&#39;s   as   if   a   seed   has   been   dropped   onto   the   soil   of   your   heart .   You   can   choose   to   respond   in   two   ways .   You   can   either   reach   down   and   pluck   up   the   seed   by   forgiving   your   offender ,   or   you   can   begin   to   cultivate   the   seed   by   reviewing   the   hurt   over   and   over   again   in   your   mind .   Bitterness   is   a   result   of   dwelling   too   long   on   a   hurt .   It&#39;s   the   result   of   not   truly   forgiving   the   offender .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>20:22</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   and   you   can   forgive   somebody   without   them   ever   apologizing   or   even   if   they   mean   to   hurt   you   intentionally   in   perpetuity .   You   live   in   forgiveness   Refuse   to   live   in   that   place .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>20:34</time>
      <p>
          Mark ,   I&#39;m   glad   you   bring   that   up   and   I   think   it&#39;s   important   to   highlight   this .   I&#39;ve   said   it   before ,   I&#39;m   sure   I   think   a   lot   of   times   the   reason   why   we   don&#39;t   follow   through   with   forgiveness   is   because   we   somehow   get   deceived   in   our   minds   in   the   thinking   that   forgiveness   means   we   don&#39;t   remember   what   someone   did   against   us   and   we   don&#39;t   feel   the   pain   from   it .   So   I   think   what   happens   is   someone   hurts   us ,   they   ask   forgiveness ,   I   forgive   you .   Or   we   say   in   our   minds ,   okay ,   I&#39;m   going   to   forgive   them .   And   then   suddenly   later   the   thought   comes   back   to   mind   of   what   they   did   through   us ,   the   memories   start   haunting   us   and   then   we   start   feeling   the   pain   from   it   again .   You   know ,   that ,   and   so   we   conclude   in   our   minds   oh ,   I   guess   I   haven&#39;t   forgiven   them .   And   so   then   we   begin   to   act   in   accordance   with   unforgiveness   again ,   when ,   as   the   reality   is ,   we   need   to   realize   forgiveness   is   a   commitment   that   keeps   on   committing .   I&#39;ve   committed   to   forgive   you .   Now   I   remember   what   you   did   and   I   feel   the   pain ,   and   I&#39;m   going   to   continue   to   choose   to   treat   you   as   though   you   did   nothing   wrong   against   me .   I&#39;m   not   holding   it   against   you .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>21:34</time>
      <p>
          Unconditional .   Yeah ,   that&#39;s   good .   My   son   was   interviewed   yesterday   over   at   Apple   and   one   of   the   questions   that   was   asked   to   him   was   how   do   you   deal   with   an   irate   customer ?   And   there   were   six   other   people   that   were   being   interviewed   all   at   the   same   time   and   my   son   said   well ,   I&#39;m   a   firm   believer   that   a   soft   answer   turns   away   wrath ,   and   one   of   the   other   guys   that   was   there   goes   come   on   come   on ,   preach   it .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>22:03</time>
      <p>
          Preach   it ,   bro ,   Like   he   was   just   there ,   of   one   accord   there ,   right .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>22:07</time>
      <p>
          But   if   you   don&#39;t ,   what   is   the   way   the   world   responds ?   When   they&#39;ve   been   done   wrong ,   right ,   it&#39;s   like   well ,   no ,   I   have   rights ,   right ,   I&#39;m   first   in   this   relationship   or   I&#39;m   tops .   I   need   to   be   rewarded   or   recognized .   And   when   somebody   treats   you   like   you ,   know   what   kind   of   a   servant   you   are .   When   somebody   treats   you   like   one   Somebody&#39;s   once   said ,   and   when   a   customer   wants   to   go   off   on   you ,   it&#39;s   easy   to   get   bitter .   You   know   what   you&#39;re   doing ,   they   don&#39;t   know   what   you&#39;re   doing ,   and   there&#39;s   the   mentality   of   the   customer&#39;s   always   right .   Well ,   the   customer   isn&#39;t   necessarily   always   right ,   but   how   do   you   diffuse   a   situation ?   The   same   way ,   when   you&#39;re   just   going   through   something ,   just   pause ,   slow   to   speak ,   slow   to   wrath ,   take   things   in .   I   mean ,   last   time   I   looked ,   romans   8.28   is   still   in   effect .   All   things   are   really   working   together   for   good ,   and   that   person   is   getting   worked   up   at   you .   You   don&#39;t   know   what   they&#39;re   going   through .   You   simply   don&#39;t   know   what   harm   has   happened   to   them .   Why   can&#39;t   you   be   on   the   other   end   of   that   stick ?   Yeah ,   and   it&#39;s   done   through   their   tongue .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>23:10</time>
      <p>
          You   know ,   ray ?   I&#39;m   curious   to   know   this   because   I   think   honestly ,   sometimes   I   forget   the   fact   that   you   are   often   criticized   in   the   sense   that   you&#39;re   a   public   figure .   Millions   have   seen   you   through   the   videos   and   all   the   different   stuff   that   we   put   out   as   a   ministry .   But   you&#39;re   often   getting   criticized ,   whether   it&#39;s   by   atheists   we   have   the   banana   man   thing   or   it&#39;s   people   that   have   accused   you   falsely   of   heinous   things .   There&#39;s   that   potential   to   become   bitter .   How   do   you   deal   with   it ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>23:38</time>
      <p>
          I   delete   them ,   have   you   rubbed ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>23:40</time>
      <p>
          out .   That&#39;s   nice   to   have   that   option .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>23:42</time>
      <p>
          I   get   great   joy   when   I   see   a   comment ,   something   really   nasty   on   the   YouTube   channel   by   saying   oh ,   thanks   for   sharing   your   thoughts ,   please   do   watch .   I   hope   your   day&#39;s   going   well .   God   bless   you ,   ray   Comfort ,   and   they   come   back   with   oh   same   to   you .   I   hope   your   day&#39;s   going   well   too ,   and   it   makes   me   laugh   how   you   can   use   love   to   touch   people&#39;s   hearts .   But   just   digressing   a   little ,   I   don&#39;t   think   anything   convinces   me   how   deeply   ingrained   we   are   in   a   spiritual   battle   as   to   when   you&#39;ve   got   the   potential   to   become   bitter ,   because   Satan   will   come   back   at   you   and   keep   bringing   that   memory   back ,   bringing   you   think   I&#39;ve   forgiven ,   I&#39;ve   forgotten ,   I&#39;m   forgetting ,   and   back   it   comes   again   and   again ,   and   so   you   can&#39;t   stop .   And   that   brings   us   to   2   Corinthians   2 ,   verses   11 ,   12 ,   which   I&#39;m   sure   you   know ,   for   indeed   I   have   forgiven   anything .   If   I&#39;ve   forgiven   anything ,   I   have   forgiven   the   one   that   for   your   sakes ,   in   the   presence   of   Christ   least   Satan   should   take   advantage   of   us ,   for   we&#39;re   not   ignorant   of   his   devices   and   if   anything   will   steal   your   joy   and   your   peace   and   your   love   and   your   kindness ,   it&#39;s   a   root   of   bitterness ,   it&#39;s   a   device   of   the   devil   and   you&#39;ve   got   to   cut   it   off   of   the   root   through   forgiveness .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>24:44</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   it&#39;s   good .   Oscar   Lu   Priolo ,   I   think ,   put   it   well   and   he   talked   about   the   fact   that   really ,   bitterness   is   a   result   of   dwelling   on   something   too   much .   I   mean   it&#39;s   giving   ourselves   over   to   replaying   or   rehearsing .   They   said   this ,   and   then   we   just   keep   playing   and   it   just   gets   deeper   and   deeper ,   right ,   yeah ,   it   reminds   me   of   Proverbs   17
      </p>

      <h2 id="forgiveness-and-overcoming-bitterness"><a class="no-underline" href="#forgiveness-and-overcoming-bitterness">Forgiveness and Overcoming Bitterness</a></h2>


        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>25:03</time>
      <p>
          ,   9, .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>25:03</time>
      <p>
          Whoever   conceals   and   offense   promotes   love .   But   whoever   gossips   about   it   separates   a   friend .   And   I   think   we   can   gossip   about   it ,   repeat   it .   As   you   pointed   out   over   and   over   again ,   we   can   repeat   the   sin   to   our   own   selves .   I   can&#39;t   believe   he   did   that .   I   can&#39;t   believe   he   or   she   said   that   thing   to   me .   I   should   have   said   this .   Why   did   he   say   that   we&#39;re   repeating   in   our   own   minds   to   ourselves ?   We   can   often   repeat   the   sins   of   others   to   the   sinner .   You   remember   when   he   did   this   to   me ?   You   remember   how   you   treated   me   that   one   time .   You   remember ,   remember ,   remember .   We   want   them   to   pay   for   their   sins ,   or   we   can   repeat   the   sins   that   have   committed   against   us   to   other   people   in   a   manner   that   is   gossipy .   Can   you   believe   what   EZ   did   to   me   the   other   day ?   Can   you   guys   mute   EZ   real   quick ?   And   so   yeah ,   you&#39;re   absolutely   right .   We   hold   on   to   these   things   that   have   been   committed   against   us   because   we   want   to   be   the   judge ,   jury   and   executioner   for   the   sins   that   have   been   committed   against   us ,   and   I   think   one   of   the   biggest   things   our   response   to   being   sinned   against   is   revealing   to   our   understanding   of   the   sins   that   we   commit   against   God .   Amen ,   that&#39;s   it   Absolutely .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>26:19</time>
      <p>
          I   think   that   Paul   nails   this .   I   think   maybe   even   in   a   recent   episode   we   talked   about   this   passage ,   but   Ephesians   4   30-32 ,   he   nails   this   precisely   and   do   not   grieve   the   Holy   Spirit   of   God ,   by   whom   you   were   sealed   for   the   day   of   redemption ,   let   all   bitterness ,   and   then   wrath ,   anger ,   clamor   and   evil   speaking   which ,   by   the   way ,   are   all ,   I   believe ,   byproducts   of   bitterness   All   those   things   flow   from   bitterness .   You&#39;re   bitter ,   you   become   wrathful   and   you   become   angry ,   which   the   word   wrath   has   the   idea   of ,   like   hey ,   catching   fire .   It   blazes   quickly ,   then   dies   out ,   but   anger   is   a   blazing   inferno   that   keeps   going   and   growing .   Clamor ,   it&#39;s   like   the   shouting   down   of   an   opponent .   Evil   speaking   which   carries   with   it   the   content   of   what   you&#39;re   saying ,   to   cut   someone   down   and   then   malice ,   wishing   harm   upon   another .   You   know   it   all   flows   from   that   bitterness .   But   he   says ,   instead   of   that ,   be   kind   to   one   another ,   tenderhearted ,   forgiving   one   another ,   even   as   God   in   Christ   forgave   you .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>27:14</time>
      <p>
          And   that   last   piece ,   I   think ,   is   the   ultimate   cure .   It&#39;s   the   key   to   understanding   how   to   remove   ourselves   from   bitterness ,   because   an   unforgiving   heart   is   an   unforgiven   heart .   It&#39;s   a   heart   that   doesn&#39;t   quite   realize   that   they   have   been   forgiven   and   they   think   to   themselves   I   would   never   do   that ,   I   would   never   do   that   from   them .   Or   they   think   I   have   yet   to   be   forgiven .   But   when   we   understand   who   we   are   in   Christ ,   that   we   have   been   forgiven   greatly .   I   mean ,   you   think ,   and   this   is   what   I   think   about   all   the   time .   I   think   about   it   because   when   I   put   this   in   the   context   of   our   marriages   like   I&#39;ve   been   married   12   years   now ,   some   people   are   married   20   years ,   30   years ,   40   years ,   40   years   you   have   two   sinners   50   years ,   60   years   70   years .   Ray   wants   honor   in   here .   Yes ,   thank   you .   You   got   two   sinners   getting   together   making   a   lifetime   covenant .   There&#39;s   gonna   be   sin   on   top   of   sin .   There&#39;s   gonna   be   little   things   that   end   up   happening ,   the   little   frustrations   of   like   man   why   won&#39;t   he   unroll   his   socks   before   putting   him   in   the   laundry   basket ?   Why   won&#39;t   she   clean   the   dishes   in   this   way ?   Why   won&#39;t   he ?   And   those   little   things   become   they   can   become   points   of   bitterness   that   are   like   Trojan   horses   for   your   marriage .   But   I   think ,   in   the   context   of   our   forgiveness   with   God ,   think   about   all   the   tiny   little   sins   that   aren&#39;t   really   little   in   the   eyes   of   God .   Think   of   all   the   sins   that   you&#39;ve   committed ,   all   the   ways   you   forget   about   him   and   all   the   times   he   doesn&#39;t   bring   it   up   Right ,   like   there&#39;s   so   many   sins   that   he   passes   over   that   we   don&#39;t   even   notice .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>28:53</time>
      <p>
          And   when   we   grasp   that ,   it   gives   us   the   power   to   then   move   forward   and   forgive   others   in   that   same   way ,   there&#39;s   a   scripture   in   Job   that   says   that   God   loves   us   too   much   to   burden   us   down   with   our   sins .   You   think   of   all   the   sins ,   all   the   little   things ,   all   the   petty   things   that   we   do .   That   can   continually   add   up .   Ray ,   you   hit   your   hand   and   raised   up   you   wanna   come   forward   and   say   okay ,   no ,   no ,   I&#39;m   fine ,   I&#39;ll   wait   for   a   minute .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>29:13</time>
      <p>
          I&#39;m   very   patient ,   I   forgive   you .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>29:15</time>
      <p>
          I   can   see   bitterness   growing   in   his   hand .   I   see   smoke   coming   out   of   Ray&#39;s   ears ,   leave   my   nostril .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>29:21</time>
      <p>
          he   is   out   of   the   field .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>29:22</time>
      <p>
          Better ,   better   better   Go   ahead .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>29:25</time>
      <p>
          Go   ahead ,   go   on .   Just   you   go   first ,   I&#39;ll   be   last .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>29:29</time>
      <p>
          No ,   you   make   me   lose   my   train   of   thought .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>29:30</time>
      <p>
          You   get   up   and   say   you   punch   me   under   the   table .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>29:34</time>
      <p>
          I   did   not ,   that   is   just   Ray ,   what&#39;s   wrong ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>29:39</time>
      <p>
          Hey ,   Oscar ,   I   can   teach   you   how   to   unroll   your   socks .   If   you   want ,   I   can   give   you   a   lesson   on   how   to   have   a   good   marriage .   Ray ,   I&#39;d   like   to   say   something   here   yes   say ,   there   is   a   way   to   take   bitterness   and   make   it   into   betterness   and   betterness ,   and   I   learned   it   many   years   ago .   If   you&#39;ve   got   a   thought   that   keeps   coming   back   to   you   and   you   just   can&#39;t   seem   to   stop   it ,   you   know ,   overcome   it .   The   next   night   you&#39;re   lying   in   bed   and   you   think ,   oh ,   why   do   you   do   that ?   And   you   get   the   whole   thing   goes   over   and   over   again .   What   I   did   years   ago   is   I   would   formulate   the   most   positive ,   god-glorifying ,   satan-trampeling   confession   of   faith   and   prayer   that   I   could   imagine ,   and   I&#39;d   pray   that   when   that   bit   of   thought   came ,   wow .   So   the   enemy   would   come   and   set   off   an   alarm   saying   get   better .   And   I&#39;d   say ,   oh ,   that   reminds   me   to   pray   that   very   powerful ,   positive   prayer   that   glorifies   God   and   tramples   Satan   underfoot ,   and   be   just   something   like   this   oh   God ,   give   me   wisdom ,   give   me   a   love ,   give   me   a   burden   for   the   last   open   doors ,   make   me   effective   to   reach   the   last .   And   it   was   just   this   prayer   I   learned   off   my   heart .   So   Satan   would   bring   a   negative   and   it   suddenly   bring   a   positive   to   me .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>30:43</time>
      <p>
          Wow ,   ray ,   it   really   overcame   that .   So   since   I&#39;ve   become   your   son-in-law ,   you&#39;ve   prayed   that   prayer   like   thousands .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>30:47</time>
      <p>
          All   the   time .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>30:48</time>
      <p>
          Thousands .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>30:49</time>
      <p>
          Right   now .   I&#39;m   trying   to   get   it   right   now .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>30:51</time>
      <p>
          Lord ,   get   his   face   out   of   my   head .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>30:56</time>
      <p>
          No ,   that&#39;s   good ,   but   that   really   really   does   work .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>30:58</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   no ,   yeah ,   and   Mark ,   I   want   to   say   we   think   of   the   parable   that   Jesus   gave   about   the   servant   who   was   forgiven   much   and   wouldn&#39;t   forgive   his   servant   who   barely   owed   him   anything   in   comparison .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>31:09</time>
      <p>
          Excuse   me ,   and   Certainly   and   Amen .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>31:13</time>
      <p>
          Certainly .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>31:15</time>
      <p>
          And   really   it   does   oftentimes   come   down   to   this   almost   spiritual   amnesia ,   when   we   forget   what   we   have   done   against   God .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>31:26</time>
      <p>
          We   go   from   prodigal   to   Pharisee   overnight .   That&#39;s   not   original .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>31:32</time>
      <p>
          Nothing   on   his .   Is   that   original ,   you   know   what ?   No ,   that&#39;s   not   original .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>31:36</time>
      <p>
          Let&#39;s   do   it ,   copy   out   from   the   outside .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>31:38</time>
      <p>
          Nothing ,   we   say   is   ever   original ,   so   we   don&#39;t   have   to   quote   anyone .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>31:41</time>
      <p>
          We   need   to   say   it   Is   that   original   though .   Yeah ,   yeah .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>31:44</time>
      <p>
          I   think   the   wheeze   might   be   original .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>31:46</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   that&#39;s   the   only   original   thing .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>31:48</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   the   Bible   is   filled   with   examples   of   people   that   were   forgetful .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>31:57</time>
      <p>
          Was   that   a   joke ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>31:58</time>
      <p>
          Of   where   it   came   from .   You   lose   train   of   thought   saying   that   word .   What&#39;s   that ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>32:02</time>
      <p>
          Yeah .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>32:05</time>
      <p>
          We   have   a   story   with   Cain .   Cain   was   bitter   that   God   accepted   able   sacrifice   and   not   his   own .   Instead   of   dealing   with   those   feelings   by   admitting   his   own   part   in   the   situation   and   considering   God&#39;s   point   of   view ,   he   buried   his   anger .   According   to   compelling   truth ,   compellingtruthorg   is   a   really   great   website   because   that&#39;s   kind   of   the   sibling   to   got   questions .   It   deals   maybe   a   little   bit   more   on   a   deeper   philosophical   level   to   think   through   different   things ,   not   just   quick   answers   to   questions
      </p>

      <h2 id="bitterness-forgiveness-and-love-in-relationships"><a class="no-underline" href="#bitterness-forgiveness-and-love-in-relationships">Bitterness, Forgiveness, and Love in Relationships</a></h2>


        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>32:33</time>
      <p>
          .   There&#39;s   the   example   of   Sarah   in   Abraham ,   when   Sarah   asked   Abram   to   impregnate   her   maid   servant ,   hagar ,   and   was   bitter   with   Hagar .   When   it   worked ,   do   this ,   it   did .   It   worked   Well .   Now   I&#39;m   upset   at   you   for   doing   that ,   obviously ,   rightfully   so .   And   how   about   King   Saul ?   When   he   realized   how   much   the   people   loved   David   and   celebrated   his   accomplishments ,   saul   looked   into   the   mirror   and   realized   man ,   I   am   not   David ,   I   have   not   done   what   he&#39;s   done .   And   then   he   tries   to   have   him   killed .   And   then   we   have   the   story   of   Job   and   Job&#39;s   wife ,   right   when ,   finally ,   she&#39;s   upset   and   she&#39;s   bitter   at   God ,   looking   at   how   they   served   God ,   undoubtedly .   And   then   finally   Job&#39;s   wife   says   do   you   still   hold   fast   your   integrity ?   And   Job   2.9   says   curse   God   and   die .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>33:26</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   yeah   and   Mark ,   I   like   the   fact ,   and   that&#39;s   when   she&#39;s   in   a   good   mood .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>33:32</time>
      <p>
          Joe   Bet .   But ,   mark ,   I   like   the   fact   that   you   mentioned   that   Saul   saying   I   am   not   David .   And   I   love   this   quote   by   Jerry   Berger .   As   he   says   bitterness   arises   in   our   hearts   when   we   do   not   trust   in   the   sovereign   rule   of   God .   In   our   lives ,   bitterness   can   arise   on   so   many   fronts .   It&#39;s   not   just   someone   did   something   against   me ,   it&#39;s   I   don&#39;t   have   this   or   I   don&#39;t   have   that ,   or   the   circumstances   in   my   life   turned   out   this   way   or   that   way ,   and   ultimately   it   comes   down   to   saying   God ,   you&#39;ve   put   me   in   this   predicament ,   you&#39;ve   allowed   the   circumstance   that   arise   in   my   heart ,   and   so   I&#39;m   gonna   accept   it .   And   I&#39;m   going   to   again   and   this   is   so   key ,   I   talk   about   this   all   the   time   the   operative   word   is   to   continue   to   proactively   walk   with   the   Lord .   I   think   so   often   we   deceive   ourselves   in   the   thinking   well ,   I   haven&#39;t   denied   the   faith ,   I   haven&#39;t   blasphemed   God ,   I   haven&#39;t   given   up   my   church   membership ,   so   I&#39;m   cool .   No ,   if   we   cease   to   proactively   walk   with   God ,   consciously   pursue   Him ,   consciously   surrender   to   Him ,   consciously   walk   in   love ,   consciously   bear   the   fruit   of   the   spirit ,   then   we   are   not   surrendering   to   the   Psalm   TV .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>34:42</time>
      <p>
          We&#39;re   not   proactively   walking   with   Him .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>34:44</time>
      <p>
          And   it&#39;s   so   important ,   you   know ,   first   to   recognize   that   I   think   it&#39;s   also   really   important ,   especially   in   the   in   the   context   of   long-term   relationships   like   marriage ,   family ,   friends ,   coworkers ,   bosses   that   are   from   Lebanon ,   all   of   these   things   that   it&#39;s   important   to   recognize   the   difference   between   when   someone   sins   and   when   someone   quote ,   unquote   sins   against   you .   And   what   I   mean   by   that   is   that   we   have   such   a   high   view   of   ourselves   that   sometimes   our   bitterness   arises   because   somebody   doesn&#39;t   treat   us   the   way   we   want   them   to   treat   us .   They   don&#39;t   respect   us   the   way   we   want   them   to   respect   us .   They   don&#39;t   do   something   around   the   house   the   way   we   want   them   to   do ,   the   thing   around   the   house .   They   don&#39;t   communicate   to   us   in   a   way   we   want   them   to   communicate ,   and   we   put   ourselves   on   this   shelf   and   go   you   have   disobeyed   my   laws ,   you   have   broken   my   10   commandments ,   and   bitterness   arises   because   you   have   a   high   view   of   yourself .   I   think   the   key   first   to   forgiveness   is   being   able   to   understand   what   sin   actually   is   Right .   If   somebody   does   something   in   a   way   that   I   don&#39;t   enjoy ,   if   I   have   a   low   view   of   myself ,   I   will   understand   the   context   of   that   and   it&#39;s   easier   to   let   that   go .   But   what   happens   when   somebody   actually   sins   against   you ?   Well ,   if   you   have   a   low   view   yourself   and   a   high   view   of   God   you   will   have   in   your   mind .   They&#39;re   standing   before   the   Lord   as   more   valuable   than   they&#39;re   standing   before   you .   In   other   words ,   if   someone   lies   to   me ,   I   am   more   concerned   about   the   sin   they&#39;ve   committed   against   God   before   I   am   concerned   about   their   sin   committed   against   me ,   and   that   allows   me   to   pursue   them   in   love .   That   allows   me   to   pursue   them   in   a   way   that   I   don&#39;t   have   to   hold   resentment   or   bitterness   in   my   own   heart   because ,   at   the   end   of   the   day ,   like   David   says ,   against   you   and   you   alone   have   I   sinned   and   done   what   is   evil   in   your   sight .   I   recognize   that   the   chief   issue   is   between   the   sinner   and   their   savior .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>36:37</time>
      <p>
          That&#39;s   good ,   Mark .   You   know ,   in   Colossians   319 ,   Paul   says   husbands ,   love   your   wives   and   do   not   be   bitter   toward   them .   I   think   of   this .   You   know ,   obviously   it&#39;s   dealing   directly   with   the   wife   here ,   but   I   think   of   this   principally   right ,   when   you   think   about   it   from   a   logical   standpoint ,   it&#39;s   crazy   that   the   people   that   are   closest   to   us   are   the   people   that   we   can   become   more ,   most   bitter   toward .   I   mean ,   it&#39;s   kind   of   like ,   you   know ,   the   kid   who   pummels   the   bully   at   school   for   picking   on   their   little   sister ,   little   brother ,   and   then   that   same   day   on   the   way   home ,   they&#39;ll   be   raiding   them   up   and   down ,   right ,   and   they&#39;re   always ,   always   bullying   them   at   home .   You   know ,   it&#39;s   so   illogical   Like   these   are   the   people   that   we   say   we   would   lay   our   lives .   Of   course   I   take   a   bullet   for   my   wife ,   for   my   kids ,   for   my   in-laws ,   for ,   you   know ,   whatever .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>37:27</time>
      <p>
          Well ,   for   your   neighbor .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>37:30</time>
      <p>
          Let   me   rethink   that   last   one ,   but   you   know   what   I&#39;m   saying .   But   with   my   spouse ,   but   then   it&#39;s   toward   them   that   we   become   the   most   bitter .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>37:38</time>
      <p>
          What&#39;s   the   deal   with   that ?   It   helped   me   to   figure   that   out .   I   don&#39;t   know   if   I   can   wrap   my   brain   around   that   entirely   right ,   we   were   called   to   love   unconditionally   and   sacrificially .   You   know ,   god   forbid   that   we   would   ever   treat   our   love ,   the   one   closest   to   us ,   with   anything   other   than   love ,   honor   and   respect .   I   don&#39;t   fully   have   that   figured   out .   I   mean ,   we   go   from   I   love   you ,   I   love   you ,   I   love   you   to   the   one   moment   to   and   we&#39;ve   seen   this   with   friends   of   ours   too   I   wanna   divorce   you   and   I   hate   you .   I   can&#39;t   even   see   your   face   anymore   If   I   hear   your   name   or   your   voice .   it   brings   curls   down   my   spine .   What   has   happened ,   you   know ,   with   that   is   you   know   you   have   not   walked   in   the   way   in   accordance   to   your   faith   if   you&#39;re   a   Christian   and   you   have   not   kept   your   eyes   on   the   prize   and   you   think   that   your   spouse ,   your   the   moment ,   your   situation ,   your   finances   is   the   end   goal .   But   in   reality ,   you   know ,   I   heard   Kirk   Cameron   say   something   one   time   in   referencing   to   a   man   who   was   going   off   on   his   wife   and   says   you   know ,   this   is   not   the   same   woman   I   married   20   odd   years   ago .   She&#39;s   a   completely   different   person .   And   Kirk   responded   to   him   and   said   she   got   like   that   on   your   watch .   Wow ,   that&#39;s   a   heavy   statement .   What   are   you   doing   to   pour   into   your   kids ,   your   spouse ,   the   situation ,   pouring   into   yourself ?   You   know ,   cj   Mahaney   says   at   one   time   in   one   of   his   books   that   I   read   that   we   need   to   be   continually   and   constantly   sharing   the   gospel   with   ourselves .   And   this   is   to   Oscar&#39;s   point   earlier ,   in   that   if   we   are   reminded   of   how   much   we   have   been   forgiven ,   it&#39;s   easier   to   forgive .   We   will   be   quick   to   forgive   people   when   we   realize   that   we&#39;ve   been   forgiven ,   because   he   who   has   been   forgiven   much   loves   much .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>39:29</time>
      <p>
          Wow ,   mark ,   let   me   ask   you   this   on   that   point .   That&#39;s   so   good .   You   know ,   there&#39;s   that   story   that   I   read   about   that   couple   when   I   do   weddings ,   about   how ,   you   know ,   this   guy   was   looking   at   this   woman   who   was   just   so   sweet   and   wonderful   and   amazing ,   and   they&#39;re   like ,   wow ,   you   must   love   her   so   much   because   she&#39;s   like   that .   And   the   conclusion   was ,   it&#39;s   because   she   was   so   loved   that   she   became   that   person ,   you   know .   But ,   mark ,   what   do   you   say   to   the   person   who   says   but   man ,   I   really ,   I   mean   in   all   good   conscience ,   I   have   loved   my   wife ,   or   a   wife   can   say   I&#39;ve   loved   my   husband ,   or   we&#39;ve   been   faithful   parents   to   bringing   our   kids   in   the   way   of   the   Lord ,   but   they   turned   out   this   way .   I   mean ,   do   you   see   that   there   is   also   that ,   like   Paul   Tripp   talks   about ,   in   Shepherding   and   Child&#39;s   Heart ,   that   Godward   orientation   where   people   can   still   choose ,   though ,   to   be   that   way ,   even   though   someone   has   loved   them ,   and   dead   right ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>40:22</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   of   course ,   right .   I   mean ,   as   we&#39;ve   said   before   in   the   past ,   it&#39;s   not   our   job   to   raise   Christian   children .   It&#39;s   our   job   to   model   what   a   Christian   is   for   our   children .   In   the   same   way ,   it&#39;s   not   my   job   to   raise   a   Christian   wife ,   but   it&#39;s   my   job   to   model   what   a   Christian   is   for   my   wife   and   want   her   to   come   alongside   me .   If   she   chooses   to   reject   that ,   that&#39;s   on   her ,   but   that   doesn&#39;t   change   the   way   I&#39;ve   been   commanded   by   God   to   love   her   and   to   respect   her .  
      </p>

      <h2 id="dealing-with-bitterness-and-forgiveness"><a class="no-underline" href="#dealing-with-bitterness-and-forgiveness">Dealing With Bitterness and Forgiveness</a></h2>


        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>40:47</time>
      <p>
          You   know ,   I   tell   my   wife   and   I   we   have   this   agreement   in   that   what   is   it ?   It&#39;s   I   said ,   listen ,   baby ,   if   I   was   a   woman ,   if   I   was   the   wife ,   I   would   make   sure   that   there   are   plenty   of   meals ,   that   the   clothes   are   clean ,   that   things .   I   would   say   this   is   kind   of   what   I   would   do   Now .   With   that   said ,   I   honestly   don&#39;t   know   what   your   role   is   in   my   life .   Personally ,   I   don&#39;t   know   what   kind   of   a   chiseling   agent   you   are   to   get   me   to   be   who   I   need   to   be   in   the   Lord .   So   let&#39;s   have   an   agreement .   Of   course   I   would   like   you   to   make   meals .   I&#39;m   a   way   at   work   and   come   home ,   you   know ,   and   we&#39;re   able   to   sit   down ,   we   work   together ,   you   know   whatever .   But   if   you   don&#39;t   make   food ,   please   don&#39;t   get   upset   at   me   if   I   go   and   I   purchase   food   From   Wintersnitzels   From   Wintersnitzels ,   right ,   or   if   I   just   if   I   go   another   route   to   be   able   to   get   that   food ,   because   sometimes   I&#39;m   in   just   a   hurry   to   kind   of   get   some   things   done ,   to   get   things   accomplished   Right ,   and   she&#39;s   all   Great ,   yeah ,   so   I   there&#39;s   no   way   what   I   ever   think   it   will   If   you   don&#39;t   make   food   and   don&#39;t   get   upset   if   I   go   and   purchase   food .   You   know ,   and   she&#39;s   realizing   that ,   you   know   finances   are   not   always   there   to   be   able   to   go   out   and   eat ,   so   she   tries   to   make   sure   that   there&#39;s   always   food .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>42:05</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   yeah ,   that&#39;s   a   very   bitterness   inducing .  
      </p>

        <cite>Mark Spence</cite>
      <time>42:10</time>
      <p>
          Anyway ,   ray   um   right ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>42:12</time>
      <p>
          No ,   that&#39;s ,   that&#39;s   good .   I   love   the   fact   that   that   you   guys   communicate   through   stuff   like   that .   What   do   you   mean ?   And   uh ,   yeah ,   that&#39;s   good .   Anyway ,   uh ,   Ray ,   you   know ,   and   James   talks   about   how   you   can   have   bitter   envy ,   and   it   talks   about   self   seeking   and   it   goes   on   and   gives   a   list   and   says   this   wisdom   does   not   descend   from   above ,   but   is   earthly ,   sensual ,   demonic .   There   is   a   demonic   element   to   bitterness .   I   mean ,   we   often   forget   that   we   don&#39;t   wrestle   against   flesh   and   blood .   There   are   demonic   entities   at   work .   Right ,   the   pendulum   swings ,   you   have   a   devil   under   every   rock   and   then   you&#39;ve   got   total   like   writing   off   of   the   reality   of   spiritual   warfare   and   demonic   entities .   But   there   is   that   demonic   element .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>42:56</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   and   that&#39;s   why   we   realize ,   when   we   realize   we   rest   an   odd   against   flesh   and   blood ,   the   weapons   of   orphan   O&#39;Connell ,   but   mighty   through   God   of   the   pulling   down   the   strongholds ,   we&#39;ve   got   to   attack   the   spiritually   and   our   chief   weapon ,   one   of   the   chief   weapons ,   is   prayer   and   I ,   I   Mark ,   mentioned   David   before .   I   absolutely   love   David   and   I   think   about   Jesus   being   the   son   of   David ,   how   he   handled   the   potential   for   bitterness   with   committing   himself   to   him ,   the   judges ,   righteously .   I   mean ,   if   anyone&#39;s   going   to   hit   someone ,   let   it   be   the   father   let   it   be   God .   You   know   you   can   slap   my   face ,   pour   my   beard   out ,   but   God&#39;s   going   to   get   you   back .   That&#39;s   the   principle   of   turn   the   other   cheek .   It&#39;s   not   that   I&#39;m   weak ,   it&#39;s   like   I&#39;ve   got   a   boss   that&#39;s   bigger   than   me   and   he&#39;s   going   to   get   you   if   you   keep   this   up ,   if   he   sees   fit .   We   commit   ourselves   to   him   who   judge   righteously ,   and   David   did   that .   You   read   the   Precatory   Psalms   which   evoke   evil ,   like   smash   out   their   teeth ,   oh   God .   And   that&#39;s   hard   for   a   Christian   to   kind   of   do   that .   But   you   see ,   david   got   rid   of   his   heat   in   prayer   and   when   it   came   to   forgiveness   man ,   he   just   leads   the   ways   with   Saul   and   his   son   Jonathan .   You   know   he   kind   of   killed   Saul   a   couple   of   times ,   justifiably ,   because   it&#39;s   like   self-defense ,   but   he   didn&#39;t   and   I   think   that&#39;s   why   he&#39;s   caught   a   man   up   to   God&#39;s   own   heart .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>44:11</time>
      <p>
          You   know ,   earlier   I   talked   about   the   small   things   and   I   think   a   way   to   quench   that   bitterness   is   to   realize   that   we   have   too   high   view   of   ourselves .   But   then   there&#39;s   the   moments   which   you&#39;re   alluding   to ,   especially   in   David&#39;s   life ,   where   we&#39;re   serious   sins   have   been   committed   against   you .   And   here&#39;s   where   I   think   that   belief   in   a   just   God   is   so   important   and   it&#39;s   so   interesting   to   me   that   mostly ,   like   the   argument   against   God   being   just ,   god   being   wrathful ,   there   being   a   hell   comes   from   that&#39;s   a   very   Western   argument .   Like   I   don&#39;t   like   the   idea   of   God   being   just   and   God   sending   people   to   hell .   That&#39;s   a   Western ,   middle   class ,   comfortable   argument .   People   who   have   never   witnessed   genocide   make   that   kind   of   an   argument   right .   People   who   have   never   witnessed   children   being   taken   away   to   be   put   into   war   camps   and   given   weapons   to   go   to   war   for   a   megalomaniac .   They&#39;ve   never   seen   things   like   that .   And   to   the   person   who   is   suffering ,   like   we   believe   in   a   just   God   means   that   we   don&#39;t   have   to .   As   I   said   earlier ,   we   don&#39;t   have   to   be   the   judge ,   jury   and   executioner .   We   don&#39;t   have   to   be   the   ones   that   seek   after   justice ,   because   it   will   never   fulfill   us .   That   is   the   role   of   the   Lord .   He   is   the   one   that   is   just   he   is   the   one   that   makes   sure   that   all   balances ,   all   the   debt   that   has   been   owed   and   all   the   balances   need   to   be   paid ,   that   all   of   that   will   equal   out   at   the   end .   Either   the   sinner&#39;s   going   to   pay   for   it   and   for   all   of   eternity ,   or   Jesus   pays   for   it   on   the   cross .   And   so   we ,   knowing   this ,   have   the   opportunity   to   recognize   that   we   can   transfer   that   debt ,   that   debt   that   you .   And   that&#39;s   ultimately   what   forgiveness   you   talked   about   forgiveness   earlier .   Forgiveness   is   a   sword   of   transferring   of   debt .   If   I   don&#39;t   forgive   you ,   you   owe   me   something   right .   You   owe   me   an   apology ,   you   owe   me   reconciliation .   You   owe   me   the   recognition   you   owe   me   suffering   for   the   rest   of   your   life   for   that   thing   that   you   did   for   me .   But   forgiveness   is   a   forgiveness   of   debt ,   is   essentially   saying   here&#39;s   this   debt   you   owe   me ,   but   I&#39;m   going   to   seek   the   Lord   and   be   fulfilled   and   healed ,   and   instead   he&#39;s   going   to   be   the   one   that&#39;s   going   to   seek   after   that   debt .   He&#39;s   going   to   pay   for   it   or   you&#39;re   going   to   pay   for   it   in   the   end .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>46:26</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   Well ,   you   know ,   you   think   about   what   it   says   about   Jesus   and   first   Peter .   It   says ,   in   terms   of   his   suffering ,   he   entrusted   himself   to   him .   Who   judges   right ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>46:36</time>
      <p>
          That&#39;s   the   first   I   just   quoted .   Oh ,   you   did   quote   that ,   yeah ,   from   a   different   version .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>46:39</time>
      <p>
          Oh   that&#39;s   why   he   committed   himself   to   be   judges   right .  
      </p>

        <cite>Ray Comfort</cite>
      <time>46:42</time>
      <p>
          So   you   said ,   and   that&#39;s   why   I   didn&#39;t   recognize   the   New   Zealand   version .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>46:44</time>
      <p>
          Yeah ,   but ,   guys ,   what   do   you   think   of   this ?   I   want   to   throw   this   out   as   a   way   to   help   ourselves   honor   the   Lord   and   grow   out   of   bitterness .   Obviously ,   it   all   begins   in   the   heart ,   right ?   So   I   think   prayer   is   good .   As   I   build   towards   that ,   listen   to   Ann   Peterson .   She   said   I   have   found   it   impossible   to   be   unforgiving   towards   those   I&#39;m   praying   for .   It&#39;s   not   easy   to   start   praying   for   them .   It&#39;s   one   of   the   hardest   things   I&#39;ve   done .   But   when   I   make   that   person   an   object   of   prayer ,   I   open   the   door   of   my   heart   a   little   wider   so   that   God   can   come   in   and   breathe   on   my   heart   and   heart ,   melting   the   icy   resentment   that   is   there .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>47:21</time>
      <p>
          That&#39;s   a   hard   thing   to   do ,   it   is .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>47:23</time>
      <p>
          But   I   think   it   should   begin   there   and   we   should   ask   the   Lord   to   deal   with   our   hearts .   But   don&#39;t   you   guys   think   too   in   terms   of   action ,   don&#39;t   you   think   that   the   best   thing   we   can   do   is   to   treat   that   person   that   we   feel   bitter   toward ,   that   maybe   hurt   us ,   wounded   us   and   again ,   I&#39;m   not   talking   about   abuse ,   I&#39;m   talking   within   a   safe   zone ,   where   it&#39;s   not   something   where   we&#39;re   going   to   be   harmed   in   a   severe   way ,   to   continue   to   treat   them   the   opposite   of   how   we   feel   like   treating   them .   Get   them   a   gift   basket ,   yeah ,   stuff   like   that .   I   mean ,   okay ,   for   example ,   someone ,   someone   you   know ,   set   something   to   hurt   me   or   to   offend   me .   I   don&#39;t   want   to   talk   to   that   person .   I   push   myself   to   talk   to   them .   I   don&#39;t   want   to   greet   them .   I   push   myself   to   greet   them .   I   don&#39;t   want   to   get   them   a   gift ,   I   push   myself   to   get   them   a   gift .   I   mean ,   I   think   that&#39;s   the   way   we   move   toward   healing .   Is   that   why ?  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>48:09</time>
      <p>
          you&#39;re   always   buying   me   lunch .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>48:11</time>
      <p>
          No ,   that&#39;s   really   good ,   Honestly   as   you   bring   that   up .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>48:16</time>
      <p>
          It   reminds   me   of   a   season   in   my   life .   You   know   I&#39;ve   shared   it   before .   My   mom   married   a   guy   several   different   guys   at   different   times   that   were   all   incredibly   abusive ,   and   one   of   them   specifically   I   struggled   with   for   a   really   long   time   because   he   was   the   one   that   abused   my   mom ,   abused   my   triplet   sisters ,   abused   me ,   and   in   the   thoughts   I   would   have   towards   him   as   a   Christian ,   was   like   man ,   like   I   was   little   then ,   but   I&#39;m   not   little   now .   You   know   what   I   mean .   Or   like ,   oh   man ,   if   one   day   he   ever   showed   up   in   my   house   like   I   would   think   I   would   daydream   about   what   I   would   do .   I&#39;m   just   confessing   this   to   you .   And   one   day   someone   suggested   to   me   have   you   ever   prayed   for   his   salvation ?   Wow .   And   when   I   heard   that ,   I   was   like   I   cannot   see   me   sincerely   praying   for   that   man&#39;s   salvation .   But   over   time   the   Lord   did   a   work   on   my   heart   and   I   started   to   pray   for   his   salvation   and   honestly ,   it   wasn&#39;t   easy .   You   know   what   I   mean .   Like   I   didn&#39;t   understand   it ,   but   it   was   the   beginning   of   letting   go   of   that   bitterness   and   being   able   to   forgive .   Like   he&#39;s   not   in   my   life   I   don&#39;t   see   him   ever .   But   I   don&#39;t   have   those   thoughts   for   some .   I&#39;ve   ran   into   him   at   a   wedding   and   at   a   funeral   and   it&#39;s   a   shake   of   the   hand   and   it&#39;s   a   sincerely   like   how   are   you ,   man ?   Like   I&#39;m   done   being   resentful ,   I&#39;m   done   being   bitter   and   I&#39;m   praying   for   this   person&#39;s   salvation ,   the   Lord   brings   healing   through   that .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>49:33</time>
      <p>
          You   know ,   someone   recently   said   something   to   me   that   hurt   me .   They   met   well   fully ,   well   fully   Pyromotos ,   but   it   really   did   hurt   me ,   and   they   acknowledged   later   that   they   realized   that   they   could   have   said   it   differently .   But   in   the   midst   of   that ,   as   I   was   struggling ,   I   pushed   myself   to   interact   with   them   in   ways   that   were   in   keeping   with   non   bitterness ,   and   they   pointed   that   out .   They   said   I   was   surprised   that   you   did   this   and   I   said   I   did   that   because   it&#39;s   only   right   For   me   to   not   do   that   would   be   me   giving   in   to   bitterness ,   and   I   can&#39;t   do   that ,   you   know .   So   it&#39;s   important   for   us   to   maintain   that   mindset   and   that   heart   and   press   on .   Let   me   just   wrap   it   up   with   this   quote   by   Anne   Peterson .   She   said   bitterness   starts   out   small   and   offense   burrows   its   way   into   our   hearts .   We   repay   it   in   our   mind .   We   play   it   in   our   minds ,   creating   deep   ruts   that   will   be   hard   to   build   back   up .   We   retell   our   hurts   to   any   available   listener ,   including   each   sorted   detail .   We   enlist   support ,   pushing   us   further   into   our   resentment .   We   hear   the   offending   person&#39;s   name   and   cringe .   We   decipher   the   offense   as   intentional   and   our   offender   as   full   of   spite .   We   look   for   other   reasons ,   but   real ,   or   both   real   or   imagined ,   to   dislike   our   villain .   With   each   new   piece   of   information   we   form   another   layer   of   bitterness .   We   fool   ourselves   into   thinking   no   one   will   know ,   but   anger   and   resentment   have   a   way   of   seeping   into   everything .   Resentment   is   like   a   beach   ball .   We   try   to   submerge   in   the   water .   No   matter   how   valiant   our   efforts ,   it   pops   up   with   all   its   vitality ,   splashing   everyone   around .  
      </p>

        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>51:08</time>
      <p>
          That&#39;s   really   good ,   isn&#39;t   that   heavy ?   That&#39;s   why   I   don&#39;t   play   with   beach   balls .  
      </p>

        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>51:14</time>
      <p>
          And   then   one   last   one   by   Randy   Smith .   He   says   it   doesn&#39;t   matter   how   bad   you   were   hurt .   It   doesn&#39;t   matter   if   the   person   has   yet   to   ask   for   your   forgiveness .   It   doesn&#39;t   matter   how   strongly   you   feel   you   can   justify   your   bitterness .   It   doesn&#39;t   matter   if   the   offender   still   continues   to   sin   against   you .  
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      <h2 id="addressing-bitterness-and-seeking-forgiveness"><a class="no-underline" href="#addressing-bitterness-and-seeking-forgiveness">Addressing Bitterness and Seeking Forgiveness</a></h2>


        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>51:29</time>
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          Bitterness   in   any   form   is   a   sin   against   God .   You   are   choosing   to   be   bitter .   You   will   never   be   free   until   you   acknowledge   your   bitterness ,   own   up   to   it   and   ask   for   the   Lord&#39;s   forgiveness .  
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        <cite>Oscar Navarro</cite>
      <time>51:41</time>
      <p>
          It&#39;s   good .   It&#39;s   like   saying   you   don&#39;t   choose   to   be   sinned   against ,   but   you   do   get   to   choose .   How   do   you   spawn ?   To   being   sinned   against .   Yeah ,   my   man .  
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        <cite>Emeal Zwayne</cite>
      <time>51:49</time>
      <p>
          Well ,   there   you   have   it ,   friends .   Another   one .   Hope   you&#39;re   not   bitter   that   we   went   a   little   longer   than   usual ,   but   don&#39;t   forget   the   basic   training   course ,   both   physical   and   MP4   digital   format ,   the   Living   Waters   Mug ,   the   evidence   study   Bible ,   all   at   livingwaterscom .   Send   in   your   comments   and   your   thoughts   to   podcastatlivingwaterscom   and   don&#39;t   forget   to   give   us   a   rating   and   leave   your   comments .   We   read   them   sometimes .   Thank   you   for   joining   us ,   friends .   We&#39;ll   see   you   here   next   time   on   the   Living   Waters   podcast ,   the   ultimate   cure   for   insomnia .   Why   is   there   a ?  
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