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Hey everyone it's Sam. I just wanted to come at you at the top of the episode

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really quick with a quick announcement. During the episode you are going to hear

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me mention our meetup that we are having in Seattle on May 25th and I'm going to

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name a location for the the meetup that is not going to be where we are having

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the meetup. While we were recording the episode I was looking up the place that I

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had said in the episode and I realized that that place closes at 9 when our

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event is supposed to start and I made a critical error. So we've made some

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changes. Our event is going to be held Saturday May 25th 2019 at 9 p.m. to 11

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p.m. and we're going to be at Spin Seattle that's 1511 6th Avenue in Seattle

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and yeah it's going to be a lot of fun. It's a ping-pong bar so we'll play some

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ping-pong have some drinks hang out have a good time and you know we're flexible

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so if it goes later than 11 you know who cares it'll be fun places open till

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2 so you know we got time. So yeah I hope that we will get to see you there.

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Please ignore what I say in the podcast I am a deeply flawed individual who has

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problems thinking about things before he says them. So in that spirit join us for

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some spirits or beer or you know whatever they have it that's been it'll

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be a lot of fun and I'm gonna stop talking I enjoy the episode.

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Mother bass is in mourning the aftermath of the vocal cord parasites invasion of

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the mother bass hasn't even begun to heal snake stands on the edge of the

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platform holding the ashes of his fallen comrade. Oh oh no I picked the urn up and

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now everybody expects me to say something cool. Shit what am I gonna do what am I

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gonna do what am I gonna do. Boss is everything okay. Oh I'm just coming up

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with the right words to say this is really important. Okay well carry on

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then it's just I do have a burger development meeting after this and I

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really oh nothing boss just just take your time. Okay maybe if I just jump in I

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can avoid that no no this cannot be helped how about I won't leave you to

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the eternity of the cold waves of destiny. What was that boss? I was I was

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just clearing my throat what I really meant to say was I won't let the water in

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the ocean melt away spirit daddies. Boss are you even trying these men are dead.

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I won't distribute your remains carelessly to the winds so that they may

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simply fall to the choppy waters below how about that. Boss you're embarrassing

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yourself. I won't I won't quench the fire of your warrior spirit with the sea of

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desolate. No yes desolation. Boss you're making the men cry and not in a good way.

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No no no wait wait wait I got it I got it give me one more chance. Oh that's not

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to be good. I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea. That's good enough I suppose.

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Now how about I do something cooler. Boss did you just rub a dead man on your face?

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He will always be with me. I can't believe I'm missing burger time for this.

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Good morning afternoon or evening dear listeners and welcome to Metal Gear

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Mondays the most thorough Metal Gear podcast on the internet. I am your host Sam

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Wright and I'm joined this week by Alessia Summerfield. Aim true ye vengeful spirit

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fathers greetings and good morrow. And also joined by no one else. It's just the two of us again.

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And the sorrow is here. Quiet's here. Let's just keep listening characters who can't speak.

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Decoy Octopus is here. Okay everybody with the parasites. Well that's the thing he can

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speak but he doesn't know that we don't know like if he can speak his own voice. Oh that's true.

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What does if a decoy octopus speaks when he's not dressed up and there's no one there to hear him

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does he make a sound. I don't know. That's a good let's investigative journalism. That's a

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side hop if I've ever heard one or extra. Yeah so what we're going to do today is we're going to

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not quite wrap up the story. We're going to completely wrap up the story and do

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side content and other things of that nature next week. I kind of have to jump in and say this

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because I feel like I would not be doing my due diligence if I didn't see him. We can't wrap up

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the story because Konami didn't wrap up the story. Oh no sorry. I felt like that's actually

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something that I wanted to bring up is that you were having some interactions on Twitter with

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nitroid about that. Our old boy. Yeah we can talk about it. Yeah let's talk about that.

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Yeah you want to do it right now. Are we doing it right here. Yeah let's do it. Yeah so

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we're doing this now. Yeah there were like two unscripted things that I did want to bring up on

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this episode. The first of which actually E.B.K. Lil Matt threw at me or threw at us earlier and I

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don't know if you saw the tweet saying but he was talking about the shenanigans that he's getting

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up to in this game and how could you possibly not like a game with crazy shenanigans.

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I can read the tweet really quick. He says how y'all hating on phantom pain. I just stole a truck

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while blasting snake eater with a decoy activated on the hood and drove it off a cliff into a guard

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tower. Shit was metal as fuck. Also I was shirtless. Right so one of the things that we didn't talk about

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in episode 96 or 97 that I think should be brought up is like the level of like weird unscripted madness

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that can happen in this game and when we're talking about the things that we don't like about this

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game I think we're explicitly talking about like as a like metal gear game. Yeah like not as like

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Saints Row the fifth or whatever the fuck Matt's playing but like no like because I forgot to bring

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this up on the last episode but like there was definitely I think it was the mission where you're

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saving the first interpreter in Afghanistan. I was heading back to the spot. I don't think we talked

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about that. Isn't that a side out? Oh maybe I can't remember. It was one of the I think it was one of

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the story ops where you say is the first story opera you saved the POW but I was heading back to

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the LZ to get the fuck out of there and essentially I got I got mauled by a bear like that just came

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out of nowhere and it like ended the whole mission and I literally just like sat my controller down

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and started laughing my ass off and so I think there's there's a lot of that in this game

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and so just between the between the lines of what we're saying just know that there's a lot of fun

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here like we're not trying to say this game isn't any fun I think we're just trying to talk about

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how the story isn't isn't what one might think but yeah so the nitroid thing it's it's it's it's

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funny when you bring up bears so there's going to be a side up we're going to mention in this episode

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so in this main story episode we're also bringing up the important side ops that they list that are

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kind of key to the story and one of them has a bear in it yeah and when it's real fucked up

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because like I can't even tell you how many bears I bagged and then I got that side up and I was like

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really I have to do this again um but yeah I just like I for whatever reason was just like

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running to the pickup point and had ran like 800 meters and just got fucking tackled by a bear

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I feel like I feel it's like the fucking the roundabout by yes needs to play

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when the bear didn't even kill me it like put me into like the hyper injured state

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and it straight killed the guy that was on my back um and went and because of it there was

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like a weird combination where like the game went into slow motion but was also telling me that the

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mission was failed simultaneously and it took like five minutes for the game to let me start up again

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and then even like a couple days ago I was uh um maybe no this is a couple weeks ago I was the

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mission where you steal the truck from the airport yeah which by the way holy shit Sam I went back

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and realized apparently I had s-ranked that mission and literally had killed like 10 people

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and been seen three times so I'm not quite sure what happened but I'm not sure what they're like

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yeah what what the hell are the parameters like you did it here you go yeah exactly but I was

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driving the truck and I got to the edge of the mission zone and they blew the truck up and so I

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jumped out of the truck but I guess the truck hadn't blown up yet and I crossed the threshold

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so it gave me an s-ranking as the truck's blowing up next to me and I'm like what the

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fuck just happened um so yeah this game this game has a lot of unscripted weird crazy open world

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fun things um we're not Sam and I are being crotchety but we're not being that crotchety it's fun

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yeah so anyway here's here's what else is I've always and I'm on record is saying that I think

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five is very good mechanically yeah it's a fun game um yeah um but yeah so nitroid essentially

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had shared and I guess the uh the gist around it was that he was sharing something before going

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to bed and was expecting to wake up to like a billion negative responses um and I'm not sure if he

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if that meant his expectations or not um and for those for for y'all not knowing uh at nitroid is the

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og sort of the unofficial site metalgearsolid.net um like admin fella one of the one of the one of

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the fellas that ran that site yeah um anyway he shared that to him um metalgearsolid five

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was a completed game and that it was made to feel hollow and sort of empty um to kind of um

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um let you feel the fan and pain that the characters in the game feel um and when I asked about that

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um because he specifically and explicitly mentioned that the developers had also said that

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and I was like well well as somebody who runs a metalgear podcast and as somebody who has heard a

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lot of defense for mgs five in the past uh my response is sort of like deep I didn't mean for

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it to come across this way but it was like receipts question mark like I was like what do you what do

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you mean like who said that um and he did send over some good stuff and um I just really quickly

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yeah I read through that article about the the book writers talking about it

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and essentially it was because of the I don't know why I'm having so much fucking difficulty

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finding this finding this tweet uh one second one second one second one second one second

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oh shall I vamp oh I got it I got it I got it right here um yeah I think so um but we chimed in

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and we were like um we being me um me speaking as multiple people chimed in and said like we've

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heard this before too is there a direct citation to this intent to this intention we've never found

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this confirmed but definitely buy into the read and he shared a uh web new type link uh it was

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monobu makimi and hitori nojima discuss the uh the novelization of the game where they worked

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directly into kujima supervision and how they had kind of talked about it and I can link it in the

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show notes um and then there was also another article that he linked from metal gear and former

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konami talks about metal gear solid fives cut mission 51 it's not the ending and essentially

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talks about how it's like kind of quote straight from the horse's mouth that um sort of appears

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that mission 51 was supposed to be dlc they got canceled so so yeah which i'm gonna be like uh no

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let's talk about it because we're probably gonna talk about mission 51 in next week right okay so

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yeah so we'll talk about it next week yeah and there's a games radar uh a guy named daniel

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doc and shared a gamesradar.com posts that metal gear solid five is unfinished question mark that's

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entirely the point um so yeah um lots of hot takes but but uh we'll we'll get into more of those

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as we discuss the quote ending next week we'll let you decide but for now we're going to talk about

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the news it's time for new new new news metal gear news yeah so uh last time we discussed the news

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i think it was last time it might have been last time we discussed the the iconic um

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um wanderer statue classic video game hot boy known the world over the wanderer from survive

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but but uh but uh uh now there is a uh statue of sam porta bridges the protagonist i'm just

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gonna say sam sam porta bridges is nowhere on this i do i do that to annoy you and you know

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no i do i do i'm well away um from uh figma a very large what is so is 50 percent is like one half

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is that like a half scale yeah is a half scale of the real human man's height that's fucking insane

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yeah i'm looking at this i'm looking at this on this table now i didn't realize it was sitting

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on a table before but yeah this is a half scale statue of um of uh sam porta bridges from figma

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that is released um uh uh kujima posted some pictures of it um on twitter um

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and uh there's lots of detail um lots of stuff to zoom in on and observe and potentially make

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theories about if you're in that uh if you're in that vein um and he explained that it's there

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as like reference for fan art and cosplay which is actually pretty cool i like when uh creators do

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that yeah no i like it as well it's a very detailed statue yeah and i'll fit and i don't like the name

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figma yeah it's weird it's like have you ever heard of have you ever heard of ligma no what is that

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educate me educate me it's ligma nuts

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uh

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bye guys it was great

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oh i'm so happy um you want to talk about the next one

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or have you officially quit sorry no i saw that uh metalgear and former has a patreon and was like

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it would be kind of us to contribute to their patreon oh y'all should look at metalgear and

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former on patreon um anyway you should i am bookmarking that for later use um because

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your boys give back to the metalgear community um we do we've used their news so much on the show

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it's true uh hedeo and norman um i know that we've talked about this on previous episodes but as of

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coming up yeah as of time of recording so i wrote out nine days when these notes got put together

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this is why we shouldn't do the news on this on this podcast um two days so two days now two

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days from now hedeo kajima and uh norman read us i can't believe i'm just now seeing this and i just

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rolled my eyes so hard i hope it comes over on the microphone jeff kealy will be moderating

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fuck off jeff kealy jeff needs to get a fucking job um and he has a job it's it's no deal kajima's

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a personal ball buffer that's what his job is but yes a trade he's on the payroll he has to be

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he has to be i can't believe i did i also just now noticed that tribeca has a part of their

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festival called tribeca games um that seems new um but tribeca games so i believe tribeca is also

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where they did the um la noir did that whole like uh screening thing at a film festival i think it was

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also at tribeca so they are known to work with people in the games industry um but anyway norman

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and kajima and uh kajima best boy jeff kealy will be in tribeca in two days or are more than likely

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already in tribeca as of right now but we'll be in tribeca in two days talking about um death

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shranding um sam if something crazy comes out of that maybe we should do like uh like uh like an

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update like uh like we did with the games award yeah so let's keep our eyes peeled maybe there'll

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be something to talk about let's keep them peeled people are saying that allegedly uh it's gonna

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be mostly about their them talking about creative relationship let's keep our eyes jordan peeled

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yes let's keep us eyes jordan peeled let's keep us eyes jordan peeled and i'll keep my ears keyed up

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keegan michael keyed up oh yeah keegan michael keyed up oh yeah um this next little one here is

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so our friend jordan vote roberts who um who we know not to be confused with not to be confused with

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jordan peel yeah not to be confused jordan peel jordan vote roberts um who uh he's the director of the

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potential metal gear solid movie yeah it says rumored director on imdb rumored director um

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it will tell him try and tell him that yeah he seems to think otherwise yeah he's he's very uh

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if it's a secret he's really mad at keeping it um uh he saw detective pikachu and he says that it's

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the movie that breaks uh the video game movie curse um this is barely metal gear news i'm sorry sam

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for putting this on the list i'm no listen i'm okay with it because i'm so hyped for this movie

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it's not even funny um detective pikachu uh vote roberts he said that that's super effective great

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use of the the source sir um and that he's seen it twice that viewers will be mesmerized anytime a

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classic pokemon character appears on screen and says that there is a charisma reminiscent of watching

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tony stark tinker with robots and iron man um interesting and then and then apparently side

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steals the movie which is of course he does it's side duck it's a yi yi duck

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beautiful expert yes let's talk about this last one so this last one is uh delphine cry five

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everybody's favorite game i still have yet to play it i still haven't even played four

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um essentially a fan over at nexus mods put together a mod for the pc version um where you

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have a little commentator except uh the commentator is uh david hater um and he's announcing the uh

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dmc five rank names um i believe dummy thick is the d one which is funny um but yeah it's a

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bunch of david hater voice lines i think some of which were recorded for this so i guess he uh

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got david david will fucking do dmc five commentating but uh he won't be on this podcast so uh

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don't say that at least for now might be on this maybe maybe this time next month

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um i uh before we end the news um i did want to bring up something here i've called an audible

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on the location for our meetup speaking of david hater um because i went to the place

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where we were gonna go and it's very small um so um we are changing it up we are going to

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go to the um fremont brewing company in uh in the seattle um in the seattle in the seattle they

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have like a it's it's a nice place and they have an outdoor area um with umbrellas and stuff just in

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case it's not quite the best weather um so we're going there yep 10 50 north 34th street so we're

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going to be sending a um a meeting like a meeting uh event invite on the facebook page out um and we'll

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be sending updates and social media so keep uh keep your ears to the ground dope um i will also be um

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my brain just broke give me two seconds let me hard reset my thought uh uh oh i will also be

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calling an audible on the mgs five multiplayer uh weekend as stated for patrons um i might have some

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time friday evening sam 100 you be as available as you want to be um i believe i'm more than likely

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because of a casting session for my film and some other things will more than likely be um

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exclusively online on sunday the 28th for patrons to play mgs five um but yeah

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just putting that out there okay dope dope let's talk about metal gear

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yay

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uh

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so as we discussed uh moments moments ago unless you made that role baller joke got it

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every other day we're not going to be quite finishing up the story of the game we're we're

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going to be picking up uh where we left off which is episode 24 close contact and we're going to be

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talking about um talking about the games through the game through episode 43 which is shining lights

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even in death which is fucking crazy is what it's fucking crazy it's also i didn't realize that's like

[00:24:06]
we just we changed how we were going to cover it uh like a week ago and that's a fucking bonkers

[00:24:12]
place to call it an episode because i'm actually kind of excited that it worked out that way yeah

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it's gonna be so yeah do you want to get right into it yeah i'm excited to discuss and uh yeah

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this is gonna be fun all right so the first uh the first thing we're talking about is episode

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24 close contact as i discussed um and then this this one snake has to go in and rescue um

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some engineers uh who frequented the devil house who might have some information about

[00:24:40]
what was happening there um the way that your notes are put together it makes it sound as if

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devil house is a local bar uh so we're going to be holding our meetup at the devil house

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bring your chests and your walkmans please um but yeah so so um this one is kind of like very

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it's it's story but it's very loosely it's kind of like loosely tied to everything um so we'll kind

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of talk about it a little bit i did get an s-rank on this mission which i thought was dope congratulations

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sam yeah um cause what was the what was the pro tip on the s-rank um i don't know i'm looking at

[00:25:18]
my screenshot right now and i have no fucking idea um because what happened because we should start

[00:25:23]
doing these like immediately after we'll just start recording in little pieces so it's like we're

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gonna do 75 pieces of a podcaster corner yes yes um so it uh because i don't know because i like like

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d d is so i'm of the opinion that d d is broken as a partner well so i think i love d d well i think

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quiet is also quite broken um so i've been i went from going hard de-horse to now hard quiet um i

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don't think her kills count as your kills no they don't okay because i've been s-ranking

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shit where like everyone dies and i just don't understand yeah that's all i loved i i love

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d d just because he put he i don't have to do any scouting i could just walk and just like here's this

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here's this and he like automatically tells me where the prisoners are he tells me where everything

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is i'll have to work for it i gotta start doing that i like that yeah it's it's fucking great um so he

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spotted both the prisoners for me immediately um and i noticed that one of them was wandering away

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from the camp so i just kind of wait why what were they doing i don't know they were just wandering

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so i walked up to him when i grabbed him and the idea was that i was gonna run away and i

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pulled him away from base but i misjudged the distance and somebody saw me it was too far

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way to do anything so i just kind of i you ate an alert no i extracted him in the middle of a

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fucking firefight oh i love it so i had i i'm trying not to kill people so i use that i have an

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assault rifle this that has rubber bullets that tranquilizes people oh nice um so i extracted

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that guy ran in grabbed the other prisoner faulted her out and got the fuck out of there just ran out

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of the hot zone and i got an s-rank so i don't know what the pro tip is i uh i'm sad to report back

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that your boy uh due to time constraints has just been putting quiet on uh no mercy mode and has

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just been like not taking prisoners like literally literally not taking prism yeah earlier today i

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walked into a base and the very first thing i did before even scouting anything was just shoot all

[00:27:32]
the explosive barrels grab the prisoner and got the fuck out of there and i was just like what has

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what has happened to me i was like i don't even i'm not even playing this right anymore and it was

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just like s-rank and i'm like okay whatever this game is broken i think they just stopped giving a

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fuck they stopped tracking shit after yeah they just like whatever dude you're good um yeah so after

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this mission uh cause mentions that the prisoner they're the not prisoners the targets were placing

[00:28:00]
quarantine um just in case um and that they were going to be monitored um uh and he makes like a

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little joke about how he doubts that the devil house they were sent to the devil house by a health

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organization um uh they agreed to be protected by mother base and um uh the male target so that he

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didn't know what was on the tapes at the devil house because there was no english furson at all

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spooky um so uh very obvious it's on kaza or napster kaza oh no

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after after this uh you go back to mother base and quiet goes on a fucking rampage can i just hold

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on i just want to throw out a fanfiction idea oh no we're skull face like tricks dave girl into

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like writing a song for the foo fighters that spread the parasite to english speakers

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how does that work i don't know but i all i know is that it's gonna use the song one by one

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or whatever it has to be the food yeah absolutely it has to be dave girl must be dave girl of course

[00:29:08]
snakes like they got dave and causes like they got dave they got dave no not dave you can have

[00:29:19]
anything you can't have dave but boss he hasn't even been born yet get dave

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can we get dave girl on the podcast you think he'd do that i would really like to get dave girl on

[00:29:31]
the podcast not even talk about metal gear just whatever yeah we're like welcome to monkey wrench

[00:29:36]
mondays yeah we'll talk about monkey ranch i'll talk about don't want to be your monkey ranch

[00:29:42]
i'll talk about it all day yeah love the foo fighters um anyway so after episode 24

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quiet goes on a fucking rampage and mother base um don't really know what the fuck's going on yeah

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i'm trying to remember exactly so i had a thought uh while i was because i was your boy was playing

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right up to the deadline uh i was playing and it and i i'm sure we're gonna talk about this on the

[00:30:05]
outer op which like spoiler alert uh we've got a topic that we want to talk about that we will

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probably throw out there for voting which hopefully gets some decent votes um but one of the things

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that i think that i would have liked to have seen is like don't make your companions mute

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like i was just having the thought today i was like regardless of quiet's overall a demeanor

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and appearance i feel like i might have grown to have a connection with her if she fucking talked to

[00:30:32]
boss before or after missions like if we're flying in and she's like oh man boss like uh i don't know

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like uh this is gonna be a this is gonna be a crazy one just like i got your back just dumb

[00:30:45]
shit like that like every once in a while or if she was like hey what what are you what are you

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thinking or like i don't know just like little companion banter or even had a personality like a

[00:30:54]
mass effect companion or something um i think by the end of it i would have been like oh my god

[00:30:59]
like i love this character i so here's what's they explain why no i yeah i know with her specifically

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but it's like why couldn't we have had another companion who could speak yeah um i kind of

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thought it would i think it would be cool if like she knew sign language that would be

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fucking amazing and boss could talk to her in sign language and we got the yeah we got the

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subtitles oh that would be wonderful that'd be so cool yeah and like not even and not even like

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just just like have like imagine how cool it would be for people who are hard of who are like

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hard of hearing or can't hear yeah and then they have a hero see and like it's baked into her

[00:31:34]
character like yeah it would have been so cool but you know anyway yeah sorry how hard do you think

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it'd be to render sign language i don't think it would have been difficult in the fox engine at

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all like you can clearly see people's hands and stuff yeah yeah i like her when she does get her

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personification later in the game mm-hmm it just sucks that like that's all we get yeah for sure

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um but yeah so she goes on a fucking tear um takes out some soldiers and sticks a knife in

[00:32:04]
another guy's mouth oh yeah and breaks his fucking teeth yeah it made my mouth hurt very bad yeah very

[00:32:10]
much did um and that's not even the most brutal shit she did to somebody in this game not yet

[00:32:16]
we'll talk about that next week um but she breaks uh breaks his teeth open and tries to do something

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to him and snake stops she tries to do something to him yeah um are we uh are we down to speculate

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on what that something is or do you think we should wait um well we know what that something is oh yeah

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i mean yeah yeah yeah let's wait i guess let's wait yeah she's trying to do something she's trying

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to do something i gotta i think she was trying to cut out a tongue is what i think she was trying to do

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yeah i think so too to stop by somebody from talking now here's now it's a very strange way to

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like kind of brutal way to go about it but she could have just wrote down a note and been like hey

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she could have wrote down a note she could have wrote down if she knew sign language this wouldn't

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be a problem um but uh she was trying to help this was this was not she was not just going crazy

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she was trying to help um that's what it looks like when i try to help as well yeah i try to

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cut out somebody's um they get her subdued and put away and off lot wonders if i just heard you

[00:33:18]
i heard that as they gave her some dude they gave her some dude um a lot wonders if it's for payback

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and uh snakes just like well she could have easily killed everybody if she wanted to

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it's not like she's trapped in her cage it's not like she's a rat just

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uh and then uh tells oscelot to tighten security on herself and that if this happens the second

[00:33:47]
time there won't be a third so cool um and then there's another you have before we move on to

[00:33:55]
the next mission um there's a little you have a little conversation with oscelot about how he

[00:34:01]
wants about 23 in me yep about 23 in me how he wants to run a genetic test on elie um because

[00:34:07]
he wants to make sure because he says one of the products of les enfants terribles went missing

[00:34:13]
in africa and he wants to make sure it's not elie um because wow a random soldier white child in

[00:34:19]
africa leading a bunch of little little african rebels spoiler it's not but it is yeah it's not

[00:34:27]
but it is um and then we went to episode 25 aim true yi vengeful i struggle with this one because

[00:34:33]
it has to do with the child soldiers but i don't necessarily think it's it's it's tied to the story

[00:34:37]
so much yeah i just i feel like the whole thing of the child soldiers like even going back and

[00:34:42]
talking about the um mission where we where we rescued them um i just don't really like other

[00:34:51]
than the through line that like we've talked about child soldiers and passing in the past

[00:34:55]
i feel like all of that could have been cut yeah but anyway you have to you have to extract the

[00:35:03]
commander of a splinter group of the mbele militants which are the little kids um and uh extract their

[00:35:12]
captive as well um right now at this point in the game if you're starting fresh um this is

[00:35:20]
it's hard to extract all of the kids uh because my god it sucks because you can't just fault

[00:35:28]
like other uh adults you have to yeah because it'll hurt them right yeah so you have to

[00:35:34]
carry into the helicopter they give you a kid's version of the little babies little kids meal

[00:35:43]
full i wish that it was like he hands a happy meal to the kid and the kid just gets pulled away

[00:35:49]
yeah like he opens it up to get his little hamburger and then it goes

[00:35:51]
it's like an extra fuck you because he's like hey you're in a third world country here have

[00:35:57]
a hamburger lol just kidding bye just kidding sami do you have a preferred reverse parachute

[00:36:05]
a preferred map yeah between afghanistan and africa do you like one over the other i prefer

[00:36:11]
r

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afghanistan in theory i prefer africanistan um no i because i was asking i was kind of thinking

[00:36:23]
this to myself so like spoilers for later in the episode uh the missions do start to kind of like

[00:36:27]
become a shuffled sand like a scooby-doo sandwich but there is like you do like big chunk in

[00:36:34]
afghanistan and then like a big chunk in africa and then it's just like here's uh five or six kind

[00:36:40]
shuffled into each other um i think i visually prefer africa but i think i i prefer visually but

[00:36:47]
i think strategically i can do more in afghanistan yeah i agree i prefer the sandstorm to the rain

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yeah i prefer sand darude sandstorm to adel's i set fire to the rain

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i i prefer i prefer the darude sandstorm then the rain's being blessed in africa yeah

[00:37:06]
yeah dude i'm so tired of that song at this point but yeah how many people have covered

[00:37:10]
that at this point weezer i saw a fantastic onion article that was called afternoon afternoon

[00:37:17]
trip to sure one williams inspires 300 new weezer albums that's excellent that's quite good weezer

[00:37:27]
so i this this is a this is the platform to do this i guess this is weezer's cover of africa is not

[00:37:33]
bad it's just boring yeah they didn't do anything different that's that whole album teal album is

[00:37:39]
just like listen to weezer it's just boring covers yeah do covers like that i don't know you know what

[00:37:46]
you should listen to you should listen to um under the covers volume one and two by ninja sex party

[00:37:51]
those are very good covers yeah or i would even i would go so far as to say that um oh man what is

[00:37:58]
the name of that group that does the um oh man they do like somewhere over the rainbow and a

[00:38:03]
bunch of other stuff uh they do a bunch of really weird what the hell is the name of that band

[00:38:11]
oh my god they are like a band that does nothing but covers and i don't know why i can't think of

[00:38:17]
it somebody's listening to this right now and they're like dude come on you're like dude why aren't

[00:38:23]
you talking about metal gershawn's life is that exactly what they're talking about holy

[00:38:27]
shit what is the name of that band uh come back to me we'll talk about let's keep going and i'll

[00:38:32]
yell it out loud like an idiot if i find um after you rescue the or rescue extract the commander of

[00:38:38]
the mabelli militants um a quarantine happens at mother base boys are getting sick it's real bad um

[00:38:47]
and i want to i want to camp on this for a second because um i did this just fine because i knew

[00:38:57]
um i knew how i knew what it was and what to do um you gotta do it before to you a little bit i

[00:39:06]
don't like i don't remember how i figured out it's super sucks regardless but yeah we should i don't

[00:39:13]
like what it does to your game yeah also a lot mentions that a lot of the soldiers on mother

[00:39:18]
base have fallen ill um and have been developing blisters on their chest um and that the blisters

[00:39:25]
are filled with parasitic larvae which is disgusting um and that this looks like what they

[00:39:33]
had seen um got it me first and the gimme gimmies me first and the gimme gimmies yeah they only do

[00:39:40]
covers and they're all like and they're all punk rock covers i love that name dude they're super

[00:39:44]
good they're on spotify anyways okay i'll check them out um but yeah so oscalade concludes that this

[00:39:49]
is this looks like what was at the fucking devil house um oh not the devil house our favorite

[00:39:55]
bar not the devil house our favorite bar the devil house um and cause figures this must be their

[00:39:59]
new weapon of mass destruction or something so um they need to quarantine the infected but that we

[00:40:05]
don't know who the infected are so they have a couple of people that are that are um infected

[00:40:11]
already that are in the new quarantine block um and you have to kind of figure out what the common

[00:40:17]
denominator is between all of them and quarantine those people and the answer is it's a slow it's

[00:40:24]
a slow drip though right they don't just like outright tell you like i think i think no don't

[00:40:29]
do anything about it like people yeah get real fucked yeah and that's how you and that's how you

[00:40:35]
presumably are supposed to do it you're supposed to because because what you find out is that it's

[00:40:41]
everybody who speaks kikongo so it's like it's randomized it's different for everybody's game

[00:40:47]
yeah yeah so for me it was because quick was it oh i think because uh kotalker mentions that

[00:40:52]
kikongo do they change it based on i'm not sure they must change it based on uh yeah i'm pretty

[00:40:58]
sure it's random let me double check it and make sure i'm not a fucking idiot but well regardless

[00:41:03]
it's they all have a language that they speak in common and they're getting sick because of that

[00:41:08]
language um and the way that you the way that you and i was thinking about this because i guess the

[00:41:13]
way that you would do it is to just let it happen and then get more answers because the people that

[00:41:21]
i had all spoke both english and kikongo but no it has to be because i don't know it is kikongo

[00:41:28]
you're totally right yeah because i did it i did that again because sorry i did that again because

[00:41:33]
yeah because because i knew what to do um so i just went through and my god going through i had about

[00:41:41]
640 staff members at this point and going through all of them to isolate kikongo was a fucking nightmare

[00:41:50]
yeah and they don't really like i think you can sort by a couple different parameters but i don't

[00:41:55]
think language is one of them yeah no um so you're just going to sit there manually

[00:42:00]
blink blink blink blink like through the through the menu for god knows how long

[00:42:05]
mm-hmm um and also when you add all the people to the quarantine also kind of he doesn't verify

[00:42:11]
what you've done at all so you don't really know if you're right or not um you just kind of hope for

[00:42:17]
the best but you kind of just let it happen i guess primarily i just loaded them all in there at

[00:42:23]
once because i knew what it was but you i think the way that you figure out is just let people get

[00:42:29]
sick which sucks but i mean that's what it is um super fucking weird i'm seeing a bunch of mixed

[00:42:35]
stuff like there are a bunch of people saying it's always kikongo but then i'm seeing other people

[00:42:39]
saying that it was africans or one of the afghanistan languages but i think you're right i think it's

[00:42:45]
always because it was kikongo for me the first time i played it and this time so it i don't know

[00:42:49]
and kotak or there's a cutscene where he mentions mentions kikongo or tape or something it's gotta

[00:42:55]
be we'll just go with that for now if somebody has a different experience definitely yeah if you

[00:42:59]
didn't have kikongo let us know also um based on the based on the trajectory of recording and

[00:43:05]
hopefully this is acceptable for everybody uh it looks like the seventh of me well that's the

[00:43:14]
fan episode recording so we'll record these out of order the 14th of may is when we're doing our

[00:43:19]
outer op so you've got until then to send us yeah let us know call us out you can add us on this one

[00:43:26]
it's okay yeah please normally we don't like that um but yeah so our next mission is episode 26 hunting

[00:43:35]
down um and we have to locate a human trafficker responsible for taking people to the devil house

[00:43:41]
sam who's down i'm sorry it's that's the name of the team and trafficker oh okay our friend uh

[00:43:49]
our friend down yaboa down your boy um but yeah so we have to locate down um and uh yeah the client

[00:44:02]
does not want him alive um but fuck them wow um so i don't i i fucking i fucking extract everybody um

[00:44:15]
uh but yeah so he's on the run somewhere and he has a bunch of bodyguards um

[00:44:21]
and there is some kind of coded transmission um at the datadi abandoned village um

[00:44:28]
um uh but we need to infiltrate another facility um to get the intel file we need to decipher it um

[00:44:38]
i like this mission a lot because once you get the intel file and everything deciphered

[00:44:43]
you find him and his entourage is so spread out that it was just easy to pick all of them off and

[00:44:52]
extract them yeah and um where i fucked up because i would have got an s on this if i would have just

[00:45:00]
stopped but where i fucked up was i went back to the village um to grab there was a couple prisoners

[00:45:07]
there that i skipped out on and um one of the guards found out found a knocked out person um

[00:45:13]
and the place went on alert and then i was picking up that last prisoner they spotted me

[00:45:18]
and this game is is the reflex mode is nice to have but if you're in the middle of like picking

[00:45:23]
something up or picking they're dropping somebody it's useless like you just have to like watch

[00:45:29]
your fate in slow motion unfold before you my big thing is like anytime i get spotted for some

[00:45:34]
reason whenever i hold like i'll hold x to dive um just because or to like lay prone because i'll see

[00:45:39]
the little indicator and it's always like right when they like hit the reflex and so i'm just like

[00:45:45]
i spent half my reflex just like picking myself up off the floor yeah it has its moments um

[00:45:52]
but yeah did you um so i got an a on that one yeah i uh i kind of like i said due to timing uh i just

[00:46:01]
kind of took everybody down and then grabbed might grab this guy um so i just kind of there was no

[00:46:07]
there was no one alive to spot bodies unfortunately yeah no um fortunately slash unfortunately

[00:46:13]
unfortunately slash unfortunately um the trafficker says that the people that he took to the devil

[00:46:18]
house um became guinea pigs which is great um yeah like the ones i put to sleep and fault

[00:46:24]
and at the beginning of the game yay make the legend come alive um and he tells him that his

[00:46:35]
instincts told told him to run um and that because he thought he could be next um but then he decided

[00:46:41]
to go to uh ngo and um uh thought that in exchange for his buyer's list he could get some kind of

[00:46:48]
amnesty or the witness protection or some shit um and then mentions something called specimens come

[00:46:58]
from deep in the forest but we're not sure what specimens means yet an oslo suggested could be a

[00:47:04]
clue and then we move on to root cause episode 27 um where we have to extract an intel team member

[00:47:13]
that has some information about um what the fuck's going on um this is a dumb motherfucker this is

[00:47:21]
such a weird plot thread i feel like unlike the other games in the series like the sort of point

[00:47:28]
to point like why you're doing what you're doing feels kind of paper thin yeah they they they they

[00:47:37]
they very loosely tied together as we move forward but like they feel so wide apart up to this point

[00:47:44]
like it doesn't start feeling like connected for a while yeah and we still have the we still have

[00:47:51]
our cake batter or whatever yeah that comes in our cake our cake batter oh my god our duty butter

[00:47:58]
you know our our cake fire oh our cake fire it's my favorite band yeah it's my arcade fire cover band

[00:48:11]
um yeah so hunting down is episode 26 um and we have to locate the human trafficker responsible

[00:48:19]
oh no fuck root cause we already did that we already we did that one already that man's

[00:48:25]
trafficking has come to a stop that we we got down when i get back up episode 27 root cause

[00:48:32]
so we have to rescue this intel team member um and uh this dumb motherfucker uh i don't know how it

[00:48:39]
went for you but for me this dumb motherfucker immediately uh steals a truck um and i was not

[00:48:47]
prepared for that so i'm chasing him on foot and then i hear a noise and i find out this

[00:48:53]
dumb motherfucker crashed the truck so the explosion of the truck alerts all the guys at the base

[00:49:00]
and i grab his dumb ass and i run to the lz but pico is taking for fucking ever so i just and the

[00:49:05]
guys in the base are coming so i just start running i book it out of the hot zone and i end it and i'm

[00:49:11]
just like my god i got an s um yeah based on your little screen here too it looks like you

[00:49:18]
didn't like reflex mode or anything yeah i'd got out there i was uh i was right that that's right

[00:49:23]
that bitch and uh yeah that was a lot yeah for for some reason like i don't think he took a truck

[00:49:32]
in mine really like i think if you get to him fast enough um he doesn't you can get to him before he

[00:49:39]
gets the truck but i i i guess i just didn't i didn't drive up to the place i i usually approach

[00:49:44]
the places on foot just just because um uh but i did i did that and i guess that i took too long

[00:49:52]
because he gets in the truck and drives it away but if you get to him before he he escapes

[00:49:57]
technically you can get to him before he gets the truck well i ran on foot and um but i had my girl

[00:50:02]
quiet with me and she's fucking doing her fun little boost sonic the hedgehog routine and i'm

[00:50:08]
pretty sure it's because i just kept telling her i was like i don't like whenever he's like he's

[00:50:11]
like shoot or whatever he says yeah i just kept yeah i kept triggering her fire thing so i think

[00:50:17]
the whole like everybody was on alert dealing with that while that this is going on so i don't

[00:50:22]
know if it just like didn't flag the ai for the uh to for him to go get the truck yeah so i don't

[00:50:29]
i mean i just rolled in and like kind of tranked everybody that was still alive and then nice

[00:50:33]
man so um so you send them back this motherfucker's doa and it would have been fine if his dumb ass

[00:50:41]
didn't steal that fucking truck i don't know if it's i don't know if what it was for you but he

[00:50:45]
was dead for me um i don't think he died i guess i guess he probably i guess he'd probably tell you

[00:50:51]
this tell the same thing he'd just be able to talk but i guess he was um he uh up until his last

[00:50:56]
breath he was insisting that they listen to him about the pathogen and the old man who knows how

[00:51:00]
to treat it um and that the intel member told us where to find this old man before he died

[00:51:07]
i feel like he does die then because i think it might be plot related maybe because i think it

[00:51:12]
has to do with the parasite stuff maybe um here's a little fun thing um since i exfiltrated on foot

[00:51:21]
after the results screen the game put me on the ground right in the path of a jeep that was coming

[00:51:25]
hell yeah so it saw me and raised an alert immediately sounds cool nice yeah so uh in between

[00:51:32]
this and the next question we can have here if you wait too long uh he gets executed really

[00:51:38]
i guess i think they probably if you wait too long to get him out of the truck you probably

[00:51:42]
got to execute oh him crashing is scripted is it yeah it says be warned the intel team member

[00:51:48]
will shortly make a break for it leaping into a jeep and fleeing the scene moments later he'll crash

[00:51:53]
oh okay interesting oh and then if you wait too long then if you wait too long then they'll kill him

[00:51:57]
okay but if you get him before he gets into the truck is he alive at the end um i don't for me i

[00:52:04]
feel like he was but maybe not i was also like kind of blasting through this game on short notice

[00:52:12]
so add us on that one too if you know please somebody needs to fact check us because we're

[00:52:18]
just not we're not at our peak right now yeah well he died he died for me so i don't know um

[00:52:24]
yeah in between this and the next mission yeah canonical death it's kind of like maril's death

[00:52:31]
isn't canonical this is the opposite this guy this guy died for us in um rip maril we get a

[00:52:38]
side up a quote important side up in here called elie's challenge um uh he's being a little shit

[00:52:44]
and also i was like yeah come and beat him up again yeah i don't remember this at all the

[00:52:48]
first time i played it and then whenever this came up i was like are you kidding me like i

[00:52:52]
hated doing this on the boat before why are we doing it now um so when you come back he's waiting

[00:52:59]
for you on the platform for sure and i just didn't remember that at all from the first time that i

[00:53:03]
played and i'm like god well you have to accept the mission though it's not like he'll just like

[00:53:07]
yeah be there um but he's waiting for you when you land and then um but the thing that is he

[00:53:12]
doesn't have the same durability as before he also doesn't have his gang of children um his

[00:53:17]
gang of lost boys his gang of lost boys um but um he's very easy he's he's he goes down pretty

[00:53:25]
fast and it's basically just the same battle without the verticality and less life um so that's

[00:53:32]
pretty good um uh when he goes down he kind of glares it snake and walks away um and then

[00:53:41]
oslo wonders if he accepted his loss and will be a little bit more obedient which is very funny um

[00:53:47]
and now you can develop uh a fault in that can extract children which been would have been great

[00:53:52]
five missions ago um and not right now uh but whatever because i don't think you have to

[00:53:57]
deal with extracting children like at all yeah i don't think yeah i was gonna say i don't think

[00:54:03]
you do it at all yeah so whatever um this leads into mission 28 code talker where we have to rescue

[00:54:12]
code talker who is uh cause his partner in burger love um hey sam did you want the end to come back

[00:54:23]
as a mystical spiritual native american yes because here you go yeah this is yeah he's basically

[00:54:33]
basically yeah he's basically navajo the end um i like i like that description yeah dina dina the end

[00:54:42]
whatever you prefer um but yeah we have to locate code talker um because apparently you can treat the

[00:54:48]
epidemic in mother base and he's located deep in a mansion in a valley hidden behind a waterfall

[00:54:57]
in the forest of magic some of that is not true i enjoyed the mansion i think this is a fun this is

[00:55:04]
a fun space i hated it i don't like i don't like the interiors i like the exterior of the exterior

[00:55:11]
of the exterior stuff is cool the interior sucks yeah the game is very clearly not made for interior

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play because like the camera was at odds with the walls i think for sure um

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uh but yeah so you you you're moving in you get dropped off in this valley and you have to

[00:55:34]
as you move on um oslo it makes you mention that there's no sign of the enemy anywhere and

[00:55:39]
i know what that the that's the fuck about um because the credits tell you um thanks credits

[00:55:46]
there um and and it's it's you find you i you realize that the credits tell you um also i played

[00:55:54]
it before so i know what happens and also it's too quiet who i also did not bring on this mission

[00:56:01]
because i forgot uh so i kind of walked a while and then i got misty and then uh oslo will have

[00:56:09]
a bad feeling which no kidding um and then um yeah and then some garbage is sniping i didn't have quiet

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and nor and i didn't remember up until like until a way later that you can switch buddies in the

[00:56:23]
middle of a mission um it costs so much money though i feel like it does um it's it's not viable to do a

[00:56:30]
lot um but i forgot so i just but airstrikes are airstrikes are forever um yeah i spent way too

[00:56:37]
much money on airstrikes because i think they're funny um i just started crawling along the left

[00:56:43]
edge of the valley um and uh that worked for me but as you keep going um some skulls show up and

[00:56:51]
they're ladies this time and you know that they're ladies this time because the first shot you get

[00:56:55]
to them is all four of their jiggling tits followed by their asses and bikinis classic

[00:57:00]
classic kadeo kajima what the fan of gain dude um yeah like come on man like what are you doing

[00:57:08]
yeah and we what does your wife think of this kajima i can't remember if we talked about this

[00:57:15]
last week or not but it feels really strange that these parasite powered uh busty babes

[00:57:23]
busty babes have to wear bikinis when the parasite powered hunky boys do not

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that's because the matter of fact the hunky boys they get through their clothes they get extra armor

[00:57:35]
that's how yeah they get right now that's how that's how many clothes they can wear for them it's

[00:57:40]
clobber in time for the ladies it's like slobber in time yeah i i felt that come out of my mouth

[00:57:49]
like instantly regretted it um Jesus christ um god damn it um but yeah they come out and they start

[00:58:02]
taking sniping positions and i said fuck it hopped in a cardboard box and just kind of serpentine

[00:58:08]
through the valley i got clipped a couple times did you serve at all i did not serve oh i love doing

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yeah you can surf box surf what yeah so i'm trying to remember what the button configuration is i

[00:58:21]
think it has to do with the while you're sprinting you press square uh i think i'm trying to remember

[00:58:29]
i don't do it often but i do have fun when i do it um yeah effectively if i'm remembering correctly

[00:58:38]
i think what you have to do is you yeah you just mash the dive button while you're standing

[00:58:43]
oh god that sounds awesome yeah once snake doesn't he then uses the box like a sled

[00:58:50]
so you can just ride it downhill that's great uh the funny part though is the box falls apart

[00:58:55]
while you're doing this yeah um so you can only do it for like a set amount of time but it's very fun

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to do i also love the uh i don't think we talked about it much on the previous episodes um when

[00:59:05]
you're in the box uh if you hold the aim button uh snake just sort of like with packing peanuts and

[00:59:11]
all like surprise yeah he's like i'm a lady jumping out of a cake hello what are like snake could be

[00:59:18]
a stripper oh yeah snake already is a stripper i think minus the minus the removing of the clothing

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yeah real time well if you listen to matt he's he has a shirt off all the time so what i um

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um yeah i'm trying to think he could be he could be like a good stripper graham like you ever want

[00:59:35]
survivalist stripper graham before oh yeah because i because i got that for you you ever want a

[00:59:40]
stripper with a fucking obsidian horn sticking out of the side i got that for you yeah uh i would say

[00:59:48]
party favors and shaving cream uh our osp mm-hmm you want a stripper with post traumatic stress

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and fucking dissociative identity disorder fucking here he is yeah i meant to say whipped cream by the

[01:00:00]
way i don't want anybody to be trying to eat shaving cream at home um gross um that'd be a

[01:00:08]
good prank right yeah sam tell me about this candle hallway in this mansion candle hallway after the

[01:00:15]
waterfall oh yeah all these beautiful there's a lot of beauty but there's also a lot of walking on foot

[01:00:21]
there is a lot unless you get your horse yeah um there's just a lot of walking in this game

[01:00:27]
i just realized there's a lot i don't mind it so much um it's okay i just feel like a lot of me

[01:00:32]
playing is people in my house having to hear um also it dawned on me snakes little uh i gotta

[01:00:44]
connect this to the helicopter so i don't fall out and die tail it's just like free hanging all the

[01:00:49]
time i think yeah right yeah how is that not annoying when you're running and it's like

[01:00:54]
smack in the back of your legs fuck i don't know he's a he's a he's a demon he doesn't

[01:01:03]
stuff like that um but yeah you get to the mansion um i did not kill the skulls because i was in my

[01:01:11]
box um and i got clipped a couple times but the box will degrade but you can still keep using it

[01:01:16]
and re-equipping it if you get clipped and the box slides off you it doesn't stun you so you can

[01:01:20]
just put the box back on and keep going oh that's awesome i didn't realize that yeah so once you

[01:01:24]
break through and you get to the clearing where the mansion is they just disappear and also it's

[01:01:27]
like i don't see any sign of them that's most of the encounters with the skulls i've discovered

[01:01:32]
is like just keep going yeah just keep going um but yeah if you just kind of like it's it's a lot

[01:01:38]
harder because they snipe but yeah just serpent team with the box and it's the prostrate um

[01:01:42]
um but yeah uh you get to the mansion and this is very very picturesque like house on on top of

[01:01:51]
like this waterfall area it's very pretty um and uh you gotta sneak that shit and uh get into the

[01:02:00]
mansion yeah and there's boys on it's like multi levels with balconies um and a couple little

[01:02:06]
there's boys on balconies there's boys on stairs there's boys under bridges there's

[01:02:12]
boys on top of bridges there's my mr in a doors am i misremembering that there's a helicopter

[01:02:18]
no there's not a helicopter at least it wasn't for me i think we so we come like the unfortunate

[01:02:22]
reality of this game is they reuse uh maps quite a bit and so i yeah i feel like this does get

[01:02:29]
reused with something with a gunship probably i can't recall anyway sorry um but yeah we're

[01:02:37]
also there boys there's boys in the house partying the boys house oh she could go in the house and

[01:02:41]
then order pizza and then have those boys come in through the front door yeah what a minute wait a

[01:02:46]
minute who ordered all this stuff crust pizza yeah and then the pizza boys a stripper somebody

[01:02:53]
order a large sausage and then snakes like but is there a metal gear solid one demo disc with

[01:02:58]
pizza oh shit what if oh man what if he orders pizza hut to get the demo disc for metal gear

[01:03:05]
solid one in 1984 in 1984 that's my son that's my son that's my that's my good looking boy can i keep

[01:03:15]
this it just it just cuts to him playing ps1 with a bunch of guards in the living room of the rest of

[01:03:21]
the game and he keeps pointing to the screen and he's like that's my son that's my son i'm so proud

[01:03:26]
and then one of them goes wait a minute that's not your son though because

[01:03:31]
spoiling that's my son

[01:03:36]
but yeah so uh i had a real hard time like this let's see you get through the building yeah well i

[01:03:44]
had a hard time i like getting in was fine but just like they're so like i don't know there's so

[01:03:49]
many guys inside yeah i forgot that he's in the cellar yeah he's in the cellar when all the way

[01:03:55]
up yeah and i just had a real hard time there's like stacks of guys just knocked out on the on

[01:04:02]
the fucking veranda like it was it was ridiculous my uh they're gonna be real sunburnt when they wake

[01:04:08]
up uh yeah my uh i feel like my strategy when it comes to this kind of stuff and i've only recently

[01:04:13]
started doing this is like put a piece of c4 on like an anti aircraft gun or like a radar dish

[01:04:19]
or something get like midway into where you're going and then detonate it and just rest and like

[01:04:27]
hide and then let everybody run to check it out and then you just sprint and do what you need to do

[01:04:33]
and get the fuck out of there huh does that work for that many people um it depends but like i have

[01:04:41]
found that for the most part it'll clear at least enough for you to get where you need to be um and

[01:04:47]
then typically if i find that like they all reset before i'm able to kind of get out of there

[01:04:51]
i'll just like be like airstrike blow up a truck and then everybody's like holy

[01:04:55]
shit what happened to dave's truck and i'm just like hey that's my son's truck

[01:05:03]
um but yeah so so uh you get down into the uh you get down on it get down on it and you

[01:05:12]
pick the lock of the door where you meet code talker and this room is full of candles it's almost

[01:05:18]
as if that witch show from the 90s was here what is that movie called what what is that show called

[01:05:24]
charmed there we go charmed i so i started i started to tell to tell the joke and then i

[01:05:30]
completely forgot that witch show from the 90s you know i was gonna say it's just like charmed and

[01:05:36]
then my brain was like it's just like that witch Dawson's creek Sabrina the teenage witch

[01:05:42]
yes out uh chlores chlores explains it all chlores explains it all with witchcraft yeah

[01:05:48]
chlores explains the occult i think i think sam in that show might have been a vampire oh i never

[01:05:58]
even thought of that have ever talked about that theory no let's talk about oh man over here uh

[01:06:03]
yeah this is like so this is the kind of shit that you get this is a preview this is a kind of

[01:06:08]
this is patriot club material this is shit you get on patriot club two dollars a month

[01:06:11]
uh patreon.com slash middle of your mondays um uh sam was her friend that would always never open

[01:06:18]
into the front door and would always climb up the window yeah through the window i think

[01:06:22]
it was a vampire he never came in i think he needs to get over himself and just tell Clarissa

[01:06:28]
that he peeps on her while she dresses for school because yeah for sure that's kind of fucked up

[01:06:33]
that's what he does i think he's an empire okay i could believe that in the greater in the in the

[01:06:40]
mcu the uh yeah our ccu the clorissa cinematic universe the clorissa cinematic universe i think

[01:06:49]
anything that stars melissa jones heart is in the ccu welcome to melissa jones right now

[01:06:55]
this is vrina clorissa explains it all melissa and joey so yeah um

[01:07:03]
but yeah so yeah me too um so

[01:07:09]
so a lot of candles um and as you walk in mysterious gust in the basement blows out all the

[01:07:15]
candles this freaks out snake a little bit but not a lot and then he finds the door from inside the

[01:07:21]
tree on the first island of i can't remember the name of it from kingdom hearts destiny island

[01:07:30]
yeah and he sees you're really fumbling these jokes aren't you i'm sorry he sees a little hand-drawn

[01:07:35]
version of himself and cause holding hands and then he's like what is this door and then a wind

[01:07:41]
blows blows cause into his heart and then he has to go on an adventure to rescue all of the uh

[01:07:50]
for multiple games and yet kairi will always get shunted to the background it's heartbreaking

[01:07:56]
anyway i'm sorry we're heartbreaking um yeah so codetalker is facing away from snake and says

[01:08:03]
that he's been waiting for him calls him to leash or something like that which is snake in um

[01:08:09]
he calls him to tinos to tinos um and then corrects himself and says bide haloni which

[01:08:15]
means horned demon um and then the candles almost seriously relight themselves which is fucking what

[01:08:23]
okay because of parasites because of parasites um and then you see codetalker he's so very very old

[01:08:31]
and um snake kind of shows him the effects of the disease of some pictures and codetalker says

[01:08:37]
silence or death and that it could be in here and points to his throat and then says snakes life

[01:08:43]
depends on him staying quiet and tells him to sit so snake does and then codetalker explains what

[01:08:49]
the fuck's going on and that is that the larvae of a parasite enters the throat and attaches

[01:08:55]
themselves to the vocal cords and mimics the hosts membranes and then when they reach maturity

[01:09:02]
they mate and then continue exposure to a particular sound triggers triggers them to

[01:09:06]
fuck um essentially um and then they feast on the host's lungs and kill it and the sound that

[01:09:13]
they are supposed to is words spoiler warren g is what makes those parasites fuck warren g

[01:09:24]
and then he takes a very long dramatic puff of his pipe uh and and can i just say that's the most

[01:09:32]
fucking bonkers explanation for anything that's more insane than nano machines well and it's

[01:09:39]
going to continue to be the explanation for literally everything and it's like i don't know

[01:09:45]
like organic nano machines it's like kojima was like huh what can we do with nano machines what if

[01:09:54]
they were organic yeah let's do that and it's just like i don't i don't know is this why chico had a

[01:10:03]
had a plug in his chest yeah so that's so we we we i mentioned that yeah he did maybe he didn't know

[01:10:11]
oh maybe he would have died if he would have lived yeah that's that's so that's um so now

[01:10:17]
he probably wouldn't have died since we know that there is uh adult chico storyboard so well

[01:10:23]
what we can flip back now um because we had mentioned we were going to talk about that when

[01:10:27]
we got here that was my theory that chico was infected with the parasite and that that was

[01:10:33]
proud that might have been the original plan um was to have chico be the one that infected mother

[01:10:38]
base yeah potentially and likewise to um so for anybody who hasn't seen it i can't not remember

[01:10:43]
where the artwork comes from i think it comes from one of the mgs5 art books but yoji shinkawa

[01:10:48]
does have a design of almost like a parasitic cyborg ninja esque um sort of an analog chico

[01:10:57]
and he's very creepy looking and wears a red hood and uh who knows how that would have played

[01:11:02]
into the story if he would have been in the main game yeah um so that's yeah so that's yeah that's

[01:11:10]
wild um and it could have been cool like to have like another cyber ninja character type of deal

[01:11:17]
but but yeah so uh so yeah so uh the fucking what is my brain doing right now so

[01:11:27]
it's been a minute you guys we're we're both coming back from a break due to family stuff

[01:11:31]
sorry that our brains are firing on empty yeah for real um yeah so they sound that they are

[01:11:37]
supposed to are words and that the larvae only attack those that speak a certain language not just

[01:11:42]
one um and he says he can't say which one the parasites at mother base are attuned to but the

[01:11:47]
silence is the best way to keep them from breeding i do like i do like the idea of tying

[01:11:52]
something lethal to language um but it's like

[01:11:58]
and i'm sure we'll kind of talk about it in our wrap up thoughts and stuff like that sorry i've got

[01:12:01]
cats sneezing very loudly in the background um i feel like uh no it's pia um i feel like and for

[01:12:08]
anybody who wants to listen to me and see i'm talk about us uh definitely go listen to that

[01:12:12]
patreon club episode um but i feel like in general this game feels like it had way too many big

[01:12:21]
ideas and just kind of barely touched on each of them yeah and i think i would have preferred it to

[01:12:26]
have been um a little bit either um less division among multiple big picture ideas um or just sort

[01:12:36]
of like focus in on like one or two things and just kind of tell that story more concisely

[01:12:41]
because like the language parasites and skull face is like one of like five

[01:12:47]
yeah stories that this game is trying to tell for some reason

[01:12:51]
so maybe four but maybe i'm being and i'm trying not to be um unkind in the read but it

[01:12:58]
it definitely just doesn't feel like there's a cohesive narrative it feels like there's like

[01:13:01]
three or four narratives and doesn't help that they're all kind of like like poorly

[01:13:07]
elmers glued together by these disparate main missions inside yeah and like what is this whole

[01:13:14]
what does this whole language virus have to do with uh the assault on mother base in uh uh ground

[01:13:19]
zeros you know what i mean and like and i know what it has to do with that because spoiler we've

[01:13:24]
beaten the game we're throwing like um hypothetical questions out there for anybody who's playing

[01:13:29]
up until this point but it's like they're so tangentially related that it's just like i don't

[01:13:34]
like what why so anyway anyway so um so cody and i'm calling him cody um hands i like that by the way

[01:13:45]
i'm imagining like the blonde jail uh outfit character from fatal fury oh yeah her final fight

[01:13:52]
i guess yeah cody cody uh cody travers yeah um he hands snake his pipe and says that it contains

[01:13:59]
an herb that they dislike for 20 blaze it um and snake tapes a deep hit um and then cody says that

[01:14:09]
snake can speak and asks if there's a cure and says uh once you see symptoms they've already

[01:14:15]
infested the alveoli which point at which point nothing can be done um but he says that there's

[01:14:21]
a way to halt the onset and prevent infection um and snake reaches out his hands and asks cody for

[01:14:28]
help um and cody says he he being skull face stole the ones that um that he sealed away enforcement

[01:14:35]
do his work and um says that uh even america sways in his wake and that he could not defy him because

[01:14:44]
the fate of the navajo the dna lies in his hands um uh and says that if his quote children he calls

[01:14:53]
the parasites his children have upset the balance of the world um that it falls to him to set it right

[01:14:59]
and then uh except snakes hand and uh snake kind of hoists him up on his shoulders um

[01:15:07]
and it's time to kind of book it out of there um cody says that uh uh

[01:15:13]
um the the parasites are the dream of every ruler since the dawn of time and he's kind of expressing

[01:15:23]
this as you're walking out of the cellar with him you're walking pretty slow um i didn't move

[01:15:27]
because i wanted to hear it all before i ran into shit yeah so i just stood there and it will like

[01:15:32]
if you if you walk as he's speaking like he will continue to talk while you're out of the cellar

[01:15:39]
yeah um so uh teach them teach them your enemy's words and then unleash them on his lands

[01:15:47]
and destroy those that speak his tongue um and says that the parasites are ethnic cleansers

[01:15:52]
and that skull faces plan is to cos realizes this that skull faces plans to wipe every language

[01:15:57]
except for english off the face of the earth um uh and he says that because of he says it's ironic

[01:16:04]
that quote they gave us language and now they take it away and says it was because of them

[01:16:09]
that man first learned to speak but that the hands of the clock has turned have turned back

[01:16:14]
so that's why so the implication being that parasites are why we learned how to talk in

[01:16:17]
the first place i think that's the implication that's weird yeah um also and since we're not

[01:16:23]
really necessarily diving into individual tapes here um uh there definitely is a tape that is

[01:16:29]
linking kotalker and the parasites to the end from metalgear solid three oh yeah that makes sense

[01:16:35]
that the end would that's why he's so old yeah that's how he lives forever and yeah eats solar

[01:16:41]
energy and interesting so yeah so they're i this is the first time i've ever made that connection

[01:16:47]
yeah so and i think they i think they outright talk about it um i'll see if i can hunt down the

[01:16:50]
exact tape number while you're yeah let me know because i i listened to most of kotalker's tapes

[01:16:54]
and i didn't there might have been an optional one i don't know that's really cool i never thought

[01:16:59]
about that that's awesome um um uh but yeah so um so yeah i want i want you to talk about

[01:17:10]
kind of your experience getting out of here because i have a pretty unique one

[01:17:15]
i feel like mine isn't so bad i just kind of went back the way that i came in i think i can't

[01:17:20]
remember if i did that or i took the road because there's a road like a front road out the front

[01:17:25]
i definitely used the f*** out of some uh like i said your your boy was trying to race against

[01:17:31]
the clock and so uh i dropped a bunch of airstrikes and just kind of used the commotion to get the

[01:17:36]
f*** out of there nice so um so i walked up the stairs and all of the soldiers were possessed by

[01:17:47]
the skulls because i didn't kill the skulls if you don't kill the skulls they are possessed and

[01:17:55]
it makes it easier to get out so nobody was nobody was on alert i just f***ing ran around them and

[01:18:01]
got out of there very nice it's very it's very nice it's much easier yeah that's really good to

[01:18:06]
know actually yeah so i got a c on that because of how f***ed up i did the first part but the

[01:18:13]
second part was great um but yeah um when you get out of there cos states that they found the bodies

[01:18:22]
of uh to missing intel members in the valley um and recognize that they probably wouldn't have

[01:18:29]
made it back alive anyway um and that mentioned he mentioned the snake that's important that he

[01:18:34]
brings codetalker back um so they can stop the epidemic um and snake while they're on the helicopter

[01:18:41]
asked him how to fight it and snake and codi says that he hid the answer in a microbe the parasite

[01:18:46]
um he has on him carries um and says that it turns the male parasites into females preventing them

[01:18:53]
from f***ing or well it doesn't prevent them from f***ing you know because uh just from making babies

[01:18:58]
just from making babies you know two girls can f*** and that's all right two girls can f*** two boys

[01:19:05]
can f*** boy and a girl can f*** i don't know where i'm going everybody can f*** it's fine everybody get up

[01:19:15]
but uh metal gear monday's endorses everyone uh as long as it doesn't hurt anybody exactly just f***

[01:19:21]
what you want yeah ask for it you know as long as you ask for permission who gives a sh*** who you

[01:19:25]
f*** you know what i mean yeah except for laws that's it for laws those ones those ones are important

[01:19:31]
so i can't i can't seem to find the exact tape but yes it is an optional tape i just need you to

[01:19:35]
know though that uh it's because your boy skullface was a janitor for fox uh that when he was cleaning

[01:19:41]
up the corpses he found the end's body and they used the pieces of his body to research these

[01:19:49]
parasites whoa okay so the end is like the dad of the parasites oh the tape is called code talker

[01:19:57]
and his research number one number one i thought i'd go back and listen to that because i know i

[01:20:01]
listened to that tape yeah he specifically talks about how um the end and the pain uh had some sort

[01:20:08]
of specimen that like responded to adrenaline in response to pain is that so so this is like can

[01:20:15]
we like assume that maybe all of them had the parasite and that's why they're all x-men that's

[01:20:20]
why they're x-men yeah so in a weird way it's almost like the x-men from mgs3 we're kind of like the

[01:20:25]
beginning of uh it's like mike heaton with his vulture costume in uh spider man homecoming yeah

[01:20:32]
so yeah look at that look at that um good the sense of the father the sense of the of the mother

[01:20:40]
in this case i guess um yeah so they uh the microbe turns the male parasites into females and

[01:20:50]
prevents them from reproducing um but that also it makes it so that the host becomes sterile um

[01:20:58]
oof yeah so that yeesh that kind of sucks um uh snake asks what the quote freak show back there

[01:21:07]
was talking about the skulls and says that um these is asking this now yeah exactly he's he

[01:21:13]
mentions the kodi mentions that um it's a different strain that acts as the host's skin and provides

[01:21:22]
strengthening stains for nourishment um uh and he didn't know that this was going to happen um and

[01:21:29]
that they were forced to serve skull face and steal his research um i've not fucked with the

[01:21:33]
parasite suit all that much but you can develop your own parasite suit yes you can um which it's

[01:21:40]
another like post game thing and it's not worth it because you have to get to get it to work you have

[01:21:46]
to extract skulls um which you can't do until much later and then you have to go back and play the

[01:21:53]
missions with the skulls to play to get them to get the things you need to extract the skulls

[01:21:57]
so that you can use the suit it's very backwards not fun yay it's very monster hunter it is very

[01:22:02]
monster hunter um which i may also i don't maybe why i don't vibe with monster hunter so much your

[01:22:10]
mileage may vary mileage may vary um um and then asked about the uh the truck that was transporting

[01:22:17]
the doodoo butter um and uh asked what became of the metallic archaea on the truck and just then

[01:22:25]
the chopper shakes and piquad calls back to them about there being clouds um and kodi says asks

[01:22:34]
if it's them and the screen goes to be continued yeah i don't like the few times that it does this

[01:22:39]
like it does this a couple of times and it's like why are we allowed to do things yeah well

[01:22:45]
that's what fucks me up about it because it wouldn't it would be one thing if they like

[01:22:48]
divided it up for like suspense because because we talked about like the idea of this being like

[01:22:53]
you know a japanese salary man can come home and play two missions and then call it a day and so i get

[01:22:58]
that um the fact that you can go and do side ops and shit in the middle of this happening

[01:23:06]
because this is happening concurrently like episode episode 29 happens immediately after like

[01:23:12]
it picks up with the same cutscene they do this a couple of times where you can just do shit

[01:23:17]
it doesn't make any sense yeah it's kind of weird i'm gonna taste me out of it a little bit yeah i kind

[01:23:21]
of i kind of feel like i don't know maybe it's just like our uh habit of just like mainlining games

[01:23:30]
i mean it definitely doesn't work in this format but i could definitely see it working in um a little

[01:23:35]
bit more of a laid-back approach sam would you say that dragon quest 11 is the same way

[01:23:42]
how do you mean like made to be played in small bursts because i feel like those are the games

[01:23:47]
that i think of the most is dragon quest or wherever it comes to this kind of approach but i'm not sure

[01:23:51]
if the new one is the same way they put save points so close to each other that i think yeah gotcha

[01:23:59]
yeah i think it's and that's how i play is the first big one that i think of when i think of this

[01:24:02]
kind of stuff the way that the episodes are broken up yeah so dragon quest 11 isn't like episodic

[01:24:08]
as it were but yeah it's very much like i can play this for an hour and be okay and then save it and

[01:24:15]
go to bed or you know or do something else um and that's how i played it up until like i'm about like

[01:24:21]
56 hours into dragon quest 11 at this point and i'm loving it i'm really enjoying it um

[01:24:26]
um uh but yeah it's uh it's uh it's very much a game that you could just play for a long time or

[01:24:38]
um just kind of give it a little little little bite a little bite in the butt a little bit

[01:24:43]
of me nice let's talk about fighting a bunch of uh things from the fantastic for after a helicopter

[01:24:49]
crash yeah so basically the helicopter goes down and i hate this mission like this might be one of

[01:24:55]
my least favorite missions you don't like i like this a lot i cannot stand if dude this mission is

[01:24:59]
just hide on the roof and shoot rockets oh man then you weren't doing it right yeah tell me how did

[01:25:06]
you i've never enjoyed this mission maybe if i change how i'm approaching it i will um so i came

[01:25:11]
i just took them out i just took them on the ground and i came in with dewalker um interesting i so i

[01:25:17]
never used dewalker yeah ever like how do you this is the one and only time i use well i use it

[01:25:24]
um you research the gatling gun right because like oh yeah my dewalker just has a little pistol

[01:25:29]
which always makes me laugh yeah and i did some research on dewalker and got the gatling gun so

[01:25:33]
i have and rockets so i have like stuff to do um with him um i don't know why i imagined you just

[01:25:38]
looking at the 3d model of dewalker being like research let me observe this this metal boy um

[01:25:48]
but yeah so my favorite part about this really quick before we get into the battle is that the

[01:25:52]
the chopper as the chopper is like going down snake takes the time to like buckle kodyan yeah

[01:25:56]
that's my favorite he's like hold on let me buckle your seatbelt old timer it's kind of it's kind

[01:26:00]
of cute um it's like snake walking an old man across the street yeah it's just like i gotta

[01:26:05]
take care of my grandpa like but yeah so i used a dewalker um and just kind of gatling gun him um

[01:26:12]
what i uh i the first time i died because um they spit these rust clouds out and if anything

[01:26:19]
metallic oh yeah hits it it rusts um and so it caught me off guard and i had to restart the mission

[01:26:25]
but um uh but yeah so i got on and got the gatling gun i just took him out with a gatling gun on

[01:26:31]
dewalker and it was pretty damn fun this is a metal gear survive uh prototype i feel like yeah

[01:26:39]
this is metal gear survive as fuck like any battle with the skulls is kind of like metal gear survive

[01:26:43]
but this one specifically is like survive as fuck yeah i don't know why my my move on this mission

[01:26:49]
every time i play it is to get on top of the hanger um and then use a combination of my rockets

[01:26:55]
with airstrikes um or i think well because i don't know if you can't do it i don't think i can't

[01:27:01]
remember i think it was grenades it was like grenade c4 rockets i know you can do supply

[01:27:05]
drops for ammo i think because i remember i remember replenishing rocket ammo somehow maybe not maybe

[01:27:13]
i just used my my guns but yeah i definitely just post up and every once in a little while they'll

[01:27:17]
come up there on the roof and fuck with me but for the most part i can kind of pick them off from up

[01:27:22]
there um yeah i don't know it just felt very like battle of attrition like it felt like it took forever

[01:27:27]
to bring these guys health down but i don't know i'll try it again with your tactic um i think

[01:27:35]
last time i did it i did it with quiet as well and she had the uh trank gun so she was completely

[01:27:40]
worthless um yeah yeah no um tranking them does tranking them work i don't think so i think

[01:27:48]
they're epidermal skin shell prevents it from actually doing anything uh all right well um yeah so

[01:27:57]
yeah no clue i just galling on them and then i extracted all these delicious boys afterwards

[01:28:03]
because there's a bunch of like possessed guys around them i should be careful um they just

[01:28:08]
they all collapse when the skulls disappear so you can just run around and scrap them scoop them up

[01:28:13]
and there's so many because it's at the airport so scoop them up which i love that like you just

[01:28:20]
magically crash at the airport yeah like everything big happens at the airport in everything big

[01:28:27]
happens at the airport like sam right on like the first like the yeah on record like everything

[01:28:33]
like the first big set pieces of the oil field and then everything else happens at the airport

[01:28:37]
everything else important that's a good point well no a lot of important things happen at the

[01:28:42]
airport speaking of definite sucks hi yeah definitely um uh but yeah so after this battle

[01:28:52]
oslott is now for some reason in the helicopter with you and he also buckles kody in which is also

[01:28:57]
cute um and kody tells him that skullface is no longer in africa like what okay great why were

[01:29:07]
we here are we going to yeah exactly are we going to a new country um no we're going back to

[01:29:12]
afghanistan what if they're like we're going to an arctica yes maybe that'd be cool i would enjoy that

[01:29:20]
ooh like i would enjoy like going back to it oh maybe you go to alaska alaska you say

[01:29:28]
alaska i say um anyway so um he says that the nuclear test was a success and that's why he left

[01:29:37]
and uh kasa as they didn't detect any nuclear tests but um but that the final test was not to

[01:29:47]
the detonated nuke but to prevent detonation um that his plan is to sell nukes to people that he

[01:29:53]
still retains control of so that um um he can prevent um nukes from exploding and they'll explain

[01:30:01]
that he'll explain this a little bit more in a very very weird and long expedition cut scene later

[01:30:07]
um yay uh yay mission 30 um uh but his plan to avoid detection to create these nukes was to

[01:30:16]
export minerals containing trace amounts of uranium um in the form of metallic archaea

[01:30:21]
i sound like you're gonna be like trace amounts of urine trace amounts of urine and feces

[01:30:29]
urine and fecal matter was found on the victim's body um

[01:30:32]
um it's like it's like every other episode of law and order yeah it's because he's old

[01:30:40]
iced tea this reminds me of the jama elinja we found traces of urine and and

[01:30:45]
steaming and urine on the victim's body like what are you doing no that's weird we were able to uh

[01:30:53]
we were able to backtrack and test the urine samples and uh iced tea it appears that this happened

[01:30:58]
after the murder right around the time that you arrived to the uh crime scene can you tell us more

[01:31:03]
about that nah me and my lawyer up in this bitch iced tea final level on twitter final level that's

[01:31:17]
his twitter handle he's a big gamer he's big in the games interesting i did not know that yeah

[01:31:23]
maybe we'll get him on the podcast maybe i don't know let's see how he feels about

[01:31:26]
middle gear after that discussion we just had he goes back and listens to this exact strike this

[01:31:32]
from the record sorry iced tea we love you um but yeah so um but yeah so they uh they have this these

[01:31:41]
small amounts of uh uranium in them and then what's around sight the metallic archaea would

[01:31:48]
enrich the uranium and weaponize it on and then it's loaded and then it's loaded onto atb's

[01:31:54]
all terrain bipedal machines atbms um and ensures that any group small too big can become a nuclear

[01:32:02]
power and snake realizes this is why they needed hui to develop the walker gears um cody goes this

[01:32:08]
means that there is deterrence on all sides um and um oslott realizes this is why he did a non-detonation

[01:32:16]
test um and that a separate archaea in the new turns off the critical criticality generator

[01:32:24]
and prevents it from detonating so um it's a failsafe the only scope phase controls which is cool

[01:32:30]
so you can deactivate anything whenever he wants and superpowers become powerless and then they um

[01:32:39]
they cure the parasite yay for now it comes back in a big bad way later big bad way um

[01:32:49]
but yeah so you go back to mother base and you um uh you uh

[01:32:57]
you see people being discharged and they question hui some more because everybody immediately is

[01:33:04]
just like i bet hui did it i bet hui did it um and uh he has some stuff uh oslott has some

[01:33:14]
caustic material in his syringe and drops it on his glasses yeah of course he does his

[01:33:19]
oslott um does a little drip on his glasses and realizes this is metallic archaea um and uh

[01:33:26]
uh oslott asks him where sally is um and um they kind of talk about like the plan again and everything

[01:33:37]
and uh that this whole nuclear proliferation plan um is a ruse to spread the the parasites essentially

[01:33:48]
um uh hell yeah yeah and uh all he needs to do is reveal sally in afghanistan

[01:33:58]
hui claims that he can't activate it without him and then oslott drops a little bit on the chair

[01:34:02]
and hui falls over and tells uh and tells oslott where sally is um when he threatens to use it on

[01:34:08]
his legs um and that sally is beyond the soviet base camp in a lab built by the soviet philosophers

[01:34:15]
this is the philosophers here um um and he also says that he doesn't know how um how uh skullman

[01:34:27]
skullman is controlling it because he was not designed to accommodate a human pilot that's

[01:34:31]
fucking false but whatever um yeah there's a seat what are you talking about there is a seat for

[01:34:37]
a very specifically sized human um which we'll discuss in a little bit later um uh yeah so uh

[01:34:46]
oslott places the needle under hui's leg and leaves and he has to kind of hold himself in place

[01:34:51]
which kind of fucked up but whatever um yeah so kind of says that snake's gonna round everyone's

[01:34:56]
site with his backup and snake takes off to go confront skullface in episode 30 and this is

[01:35:04]
gonna be a really fun episode because uh we get to sit and hold hands in the back of a jeep with

[01:35:08]
a good friend of ours i was actually really into this mission no yeah i actually quite enjoy it and

[01:35:16]
it's really like the gameplay of it it's super funny you can s rank this shit in like six minutes

[01:35:19]
or something by just sprinting yeah like i i believe somebody sent it to us and i apologize if i

[01:35:25]
cannot recall exactly who sent it to us with somebody linked to a video um and it is just somebody

[01:35:30]
like clicking in l3 aiming it in a direction and just s ranking the mission and it's the funniest

[01:35:35]
thing that's really funny because it is all based on time um yeah it's mostly based on time yeah

[01:35:42]
yeah and and the the shitty part about it is the cutscenes count yeah that does suck i always

[01:35:48]
forget about that yeah so if you if you sit and watch the cutscenes as you our baby did being

[01:35:55]
somebody who cares about what little story this game has um you're gonna waste your time clock and

[01:36:04]
you're going to get a lower score because of it so that's kind of stupid um but whatever um yeah so

[01:36:12]
we head out to okb zero um to confront skullface um and for some reason elie hui and miller with

[01:36:19]
them for a little bit um this is i will say this is i think okb zero might be my favorite um environment

[01:36:27]
next to camp omega like it there's just a lot going on it there's a lot going on and it feels like it

[01:36:33]
feels like a traditional like metal gear area yeah i would definitely and i think like there's outdoor

[01:36:40]
stuff there's a lot of elevation there's a lot of like once you get inside there's like nooks and

[01:36:45]
crannies and stuff i don't know it feels really well developed whereas all the other stuff kind of

[01:36:49]
feels like huts across the street from each other yeah spread far apart from each other yeah for sure

[01:36:54]
i agree with that it's it's very it's a very cool base and i like this a lot um but yeah you get like

[01:37:01]
you the trek through the gate is is real easy because everybody in the afghanistan base camp is dead

[01:37:05]
um so you kind of just sneak through there um the first the first gate gate of harmony

[01:37:17]
is pretty easy um i uh my favorite thing that happened here is that there's there are two

[01:37:25]
guys one of them sniping and one of them is like a spotter um and i got i i choked a couple guys out

[01:37:32]
i snuck around behind them and i was like how am i gonna do this so i was just like okay fuck it so

[01:37:40]
i choked out the sniper and i spooked his spotter and the spotter fell off the ledge and knocked

[01:37:47]
himself out i thought that was incredible i meant to it yeah i enjoy whenever they do when

[01:37:53]
those guys do show up like that like i like when they show up in like sort of these little units

[01:37:57]
they're a lot better than the radio guys god i hate those guys oh yeah for sure

[01:38:02]
but i do like the little sniper group guru dudes where it's like there's one of them that's always

[01:38:07]
like a little behind the other so you can always kind of have fun like taking out their friends and

[01:38:11]
then they're like wait a minute what happened yeah it's pretty cool um but yeah uh the second part

[01:38:19]
was a little bit bigger and it's my favorite thing about it is that each section kind of ramps up as

[01:38:25]
far as like difficulty so you go through the first section like cool what's the next section

[01:38:29]
got for me and it's just like okay this is gonna be a little bit more of a challenge it's bigger

[01:38:33]
a few more guys they're a little bit closer let's take those guys out um third section has a helicopter

[01:38:41]
kind of floating in a circle um so i kind of went inside the houses and kind of leave my way around

[01:38:47]
and came out underneath this like tunnel area um i thought that was pretty cool like they give you

[01:38:53]
like that's what i love about this area and i wish like the rest of the game was more like this

[01:38:56]
because they give you options they give you different ways to do and go about it like i i i i'm sure

[01:39:04]
there was another way to do this with the helicopter there but like i i just went in i snuck down i

[01:39:11]
went in through these like these like inside areas and fucking came out underneath like an overpass

[01:39:17]
it seemed like it looked like an overpass like an underpass and moved on to the next section

[01:39:21]
i think it was pretty cool there are parts of this map and this is a weird connection that i've

[01:39:25]
not really ever verbalized there are parts of this map that kind of remind me of like the

[01:39:30]
second death stranding trailer with Guillermo del Toro like that little overpass that you're

[01:39:35]
talking about in particular i always get that vibe for some reason yeah for sure but this is

[01:39:40]
really cool i really like i i really like playing this mission i don't quite i'm not quite on board

[01:39:46]
with the rest yeah which i like i'm not gonna like it's just the way they presented i think less

[01:39:52]
than less than like well there's a there's a certain and we can talk about it but there's a certain

[01:39:58]
person who's not a great conversationalist who he's required to contribute to this conversation

[01:40:05]
and uh it's just real empty feeling and kind of weird yeah yeah but yeah so so this section was i

[01:40:14]
and here's what i think too in this section i feel like because you know how we talked about

[01:40:22]
like way back when we talked about metalger well way back like when we talked about metalger solid

[01:40:26]
one we mentioned you know way back when we talked about metal gear an hour ago yeah yeah um when we

[01:40:32]
talked about metalgear solid one i think in the i don't know if we brought it up in the classic

[01:40:35]
but in the remaster um we mentioned that the battle with fulc and raven felt like the like the

[01:40:43]
ultimate like culmination of everything you learned in the rest of the game up to that point

[01:40:51]
this is what this mission felt like like there were all different kinds of like threats that you

[01:40:57]
have dealt with in the past and it felt like the test of your it felt like that that yeah it feels

[01:41:01]
like a final exam yeah yeah which is great because it goes to what technically which i feel should be

[01:41:06]
the final boss but you know we you know how we you know how feelings work um sometimes sometimes

[01:41:12]
nobody cares about them um so whatever uh yeah that person is usually kajima yep uh so yeah so

[01:41:22]
this was a really cool section i really enjoyed it um you once you get back past the fourth area

[01:41:28]
which is a little bit smaller there's a couple guys but they're really close together it's a

[01:41:31]
little bit you know i snuck around upstairs it was it's fine um you climb up some stairs and you

[01:41:37]
get up to the heliport you see baby mantis kind of floating above on the heliport before you get

[01:41:41]
up there so you know some shit's about to go down um and then snake draws his gun as skullface is

[01:41:49]
getting on board this helicopter um and then mantis shows up in front of him and disappears again

[01:41:55]
and skullface calls out to him and tells him that he's known lost and it torments him and then

[01:42:01]
skullface's guys all aim their weapons at him but he pushes them aside tells them to lower their guns

[01:42:06]
and says that um that's uh snake hopes that hatred will replace the pain but it never goes away

[01:42:15]
and he says it makes a man hideous inside and out um so ugly yeah so ugly um but yeah

[01:42:23]
the i i i i don't i don't think we need to like really go in depth like super super in depth about

[01:42:28]
what he's what he's saying here we should probably talk about it right but um i wanted to mention this

[01:42:33]
because skullface says that they're they're both demons and that their humanity won't return um

[01:42:40]
and that they have nowhere to run or hide and then he says that's why he'll show he'll he says

[01:42:46]
i'll show me i'll show you my demon which is real kinky oh yeah that's one of my favorite lines in

[01:42:52]
the game but yeah so and then they show each other each other's demons yep and it's real sexy um

[01:43:00]
oh god their penises are probably really gross yeah probably skullface is for sure

[01:43:07]
what if it's not though what if it's just like perfect what if it's an immaculate penis

[01:43:12]
skullface is an emission 31 skullface is immaculate penis just like it's the only thing on him that's

[01:43:18]
not like completely disfigured he's like i sacrifice so much to protect this dick yes

[01:43:24]
would you like to get a taste of this dick oh no i did so much to protect it

[01:43:32]
pop on the piece of my dioc it's my treasured possession oh no and i'm gonna break off a piece

[01:43:38]
of this dioc in your valiant oh no people are gonna come after us now people are like i was real

[01:43:46]
into this until y'all got real real explicit about skullface's penis yeah dude skullface is

[01:43:53]
whole body looks like a ball sack but that is yeah yeah it's neither here nor there including his

[01:43:59]
ball sack um yeah so uh so yeah so they uh welcome to another episode of metal gear please

[01:44:10]
yep you essentially have to follow skullface down back to the bottom of the place where you came in

[01:44:18]
and then you have to get on a truck and you just sit on the truck as it drives in real time

[01:44:23]
to uh the next place where you have to go i love it um and skullface is skullface is telling you

[01:44:33]
about he's essentially monologuing his whole plan um and telling you about why zero was wrong and why

[01:44:41]
everybody's wrong about the boss is her will and everything like that and what she's not wrong about

[01:44:46]
yeah he's not wrong we i wanted to bring this up really quick we can kind of talk about this a

[01:44:50]
little bit more on the um the otter op i think but um i think uh col duncan on the patreon not the

[01:44:59]
patreon the discord mentioned that uh that um zero is wrong about to you there are there's so many

[01:45:06]
words happening on the discord yo it's getting lit they're throwing bows dropping hot takes getting

[01:45:13]
spicy um one dollar a month melger patreon at consul's monday's um i love how you're weaving

[01:45:21]
these but he yeah but he mentioned that um that uh zero got her will all wrong and snake didn't

[01:45:29]
necessarily get her will wrong uh on accident so much as he just he's just willfully ignoring it to

[01:45:36]
yeah he's like i'll do whatever i want yeah pretty much yeah so it's uh it's kind of funny but zero

[01:45:42]
is kind of expressing that you know they didn't know what the boss really wanted and i'd argue that

[01:45:47]
he also didn't know what the boss really wanted given what he's doing um yeah i'm sure like her

[01:45:53]
dying wish was not like infect them with language parasites um but yeah so i want to see like an

[01:46:03]
alternate universe where like zero was like i think she wanted us to start a burger shop and

[01:46:08]
snakes like no she wanted me to buy a starbucks franchise and that's what we get to play

[01:46:16]
miller's maxi buns versus uh versus zero bucks oh yeah man i'll take it um

[01:46:26]
and he talks about his past and how he was uh he had his language stolen from him because he was

[01:46:31]
he was kidnapped by some soldiers that raided his village when he was a kid um and forced to speak

[01:46:37]
speak their languages and his his masters changed every time he moved and all kinds of stuff and

[01:46:44]
that war tore him apart um uh and then he reveals a container that contains the final vocal cord

[01:46:51]
parasite that knows english um that he intends to use to exterminate the english language and free

[01:46:58]
the world from zero um and that without a sling with franca the world will be torn apart torn asunder

[01:47:06]
set free um and the world would develop a new language of nukes um uh which uh

[01:47:16]
which skull face plans to control with metal gears and and this is when he stops talking and

[01:47:25]
this is the best part this is the best part it's just sitting here in silence ride with my dad yeah

[01:47:32]
yeah he ride with my dad instead of just ending the scene they just sit there in an uncomfortable

[01:47:39]
silence while sins of the father plays the song and it doesn't feel like the song like i feel like

[01:47:44]
the song is supposed to invoke some like dramatic tension or something like it doesn't feel that way

[01:47:49]
it feels goofy it feels like at any point that they're just gonna reach over and turn the radio off

[01:47:54]
yeah it's just like this is like we talk a lot about how metal gears cut scenes are long and

[01:47:59]
they do that you know and and you can say whatever you want about length of cut scenes and video

[01:48:03]
games and what have you but the very least like stuff is happening you know what i mean this is bad

[01:48:09]
by metal gear stand this is like 10 minutes like i don't know how long it was this was a long time

[01:48:13]
it felt like a long time it was a very long time very long time um and it didn't need to be an engine

[01:48:22]
they could have just done this in a cut scene and it could have been great and they could have done

[01:48:26]
they could have been on the truck and they could have like flashed like the real world clips like

[01:48:30]
they do in metal gear but no they didn't do that either it was just so fucking weird

[01:48:35]
they just sat in silence it was just like it was just like wow this feels like it feels like

[01:48:42]
two friends just had a really really bad argument on a road trip

[01:48:48]
yeah and now they're just sitting there because they want yeah they and then instead of talking

[01:48:52]
they just turn on the radio this is the metal gear equivalent of a goofy movie yeah pretty much

[01:48:57]
like they turn on the radio to like fill the silence but it's still real weird it's gonna get

[01:49:01]
to a point where it's like turn left or turn right and they're gonna freak out about the decision

[01:49:07]
and then at the last second snake is gonna tell him to turn left when he should have told him to

[01:49:11]
turn right his skull face is disappointed for the remainder of the trip yeah and then at least

[01:49:17]
they get to go to a power line concert at the end i was gonna say they get online they get on a

[01:49:20]
power line concert and everything's okay at the end i would love to see that with these character

[01:49:24]
models like if anybody wants to do a fun weekend project i would be very excited

[01:49:31]
if we're looking to each other's eyes i love that song so much sorry do you think that we could

[01:49:42]
get away with playing that and not get copyrighted i don't know let's find out

[01:50:03]
anyway um let's find out i love that um yeah so skull face finally speaks after what felt like

[01:50:11]
an eternity um and says that sally is going to roll the hands of the doom day clock regardless of

[01:50:19]
zero um and uh the jeep drives into sally's hanger and snake snake angst his gun but then

[01:50:27]
snipe shows up then snipe shows up takes 50 points from graffindor of course as he always does

[01:50:34]
because snakes aiming his gun um and as he's doing this he um he is aimed at by way more guards and

[01:50:43]
skull face tells him to remember the alamo um and good line he's done yeah very good line that was i

[01:50:50]
i think skull face had the potential and we've talked about this too skull face the potential

[01:50:54]
be super dope i think i think skull face telling snake to remember the alamo and attempt to let

[01:51:01]
him know that this is a really bad idea is fantastic yep i love it but you know yeah i love the idea of

[01:51:09]
like skull face as this like maniacal madman who's also really into like really fucked up american

[01:51:15]
history yeah uh would have been pretty solid um but they didn't do that yeah i like like i like

[01:51:22]
using history and like pop culture and just like twisting it and just being fucking insane i think

[01:51:27]
it's great they just didn't i don't think they capitalized on it at all yeah he's a good bad guy

[01:51:32]
but he's a good bad guy he was he was wasted unfortunately um but yeah so he drops his gun

[01:51:38]
and cause it kind of tells him to um to kind of get him in the line of fire for the reinforcements

[01:51:47]
and uh mentions that vengeance is all he has skull face does um and that a man's thirst for revenge

[01:51:56]
is what drives the times um and then he says snake lives because of skull face he lives because of

[01:52:04]
snake um and then uh skull face says to show him and mantis and the man on fire appear behind him

[01:52:13]
and snake aims his gun at the man on fire and uh man on fire begins to walk towards him um and mantis

[01:52:21]
happens by the way yes very much so like it's it has its moments like it has like moments of

[01:52:27]
brilliance it's very it's it's very strange um uh but yeah mantis appears and makes man on fire

[01:52:34]
freeze in place um and then man on fire turns around and walks towards uh sally whose platform

[01:52:41]
starts moving and skull face is not okay by any of this he starts yelling and freaking out um and

[01:52:47]
then the platform runs the man on fire over yeah that's a very enjoyable moment it's a very slap

[01:52:53]
sticky which character it did it was very like oh that's how this is ends i guess uh cool um it was

[01:53:01]
very funny it was like wait what the fuck i was like wait what happened yeah okay um and skull

[01:53:09]
face is freaking out he when he comes back later like very inexplicably too which is like a little

[01:53:14]
weird like i feel like yeah this is the last time we see man on fire before he's just like

[01:53:18]
gingerly waiting for us in the middle of the base yeah it's very strange yeah this is the last time

[01:53:24]
you see him and it's yeah and we'll we'll talk about what what a send out what a send out um and

[01:53:30]
we're also going to talk about that later on in the episode i'm pretty sure um yeah so uh sally wakes up

[01:53:38]
and starts stomping dudes and skull face is screaming demands who has such a lust for revenge

[01:53:48]
and asks who's doing this as the men take him out of the hangar um uh soldiers will like start firing

[01:53:56]
up at madison and sally and start falling back and snake tries to hide um but finds himself

[01:54:03]
literally face to face with sally and then the two be continued flashes across the screen

[01:54:07]
and of course you can do shit in between these two missions which is fucking insane

[01:54:15]
yeah this also kind of feels like a little bit of like a it's weird that chapter one ends here

[01:54:20]
like i kind of feel like chapter one should have ended before before africa um and like

[01:54:26]
maybe chapter two started here yeah because like this feels very i well and we'll we'll get to it

[01:54:33]
but like from here onward i was like oh fuck like really prepped for like a whole other huge

[01:54:40]
massive story chunk um and we just don't really get it yeah for sure so anyway i don't want to i

[01:54:47]
don't want to sit on that for two terribly long because we're about to get into the logistics of

[01:54:51]
that but yeah this feels kind of like the end of another game like most games would have ended here

[01:54:56]
i feel like yeah for sure um but yeah we fight sally episode 31 it's called sahalanthopus this

[01:55:05]
feels very peacewalker to me yeah i i actually really like this yeah it's a quick quag who is the

[01:55:18]
pilot that took over the helicopter dues after the metallic arcaya killed p quad yeah p quads

[01:55:25]
just dead yeah he's not though because p quad comes in later after this mission whenever you're on

[01:55:31]
side ops and stuff so who knows what the fuck comes back but he does come back um but uh quick quag uh

[01:55:39]
says he's having trouble controlling the helicopter and elis having very strange spiritual moments um

[01:55:46]
and baby mantis is there with him maybe who knows um but yeah so sally's going nuts um

[01:55:55]
lots of crazy shit blows up um uh he has a fucking fire whip sword type of shit hell yeah like

[01:56:05]
it starts wrecking shit um and this big old beam kind of falls and narrowly lands on skull face um

[01:56:15]
and uh snakes just dodging tanks and shit um

[01:56:20]
splash and getting everybody all wet yeah um skull face starts like monologuing up

[01:56:28]
at sally to nobody in particular um it's to us yeah that's to us but it's to nobody like come on

[01:56:39]
he says that cypher's gonna rewret the records and he will vanish from human memory but the

[01:56:42]
thirst for revenge he's planted will infest the system yeah infest the system is the name of my uh

[01:56:51]
my metal band metal band my shit can metal band uh dude um uh he says that uh no one can stop sally

[01:56:59]
unleashing that thirst unto the future and then says major i'm burning up which is actually which

[01:57:06]
is fucking great actually um can you cue that here yeah major i'm burning up

[01:57:20]
that's awesome i i i just love that um uh but yeah so uh sally kind of stomps on the beam that's near

[01:57:28]
him and then the scene tests the black and then kaaz yells at snake to get out of there um and then

[01:57:34]
you're kind of going away and um it's time for you to fucking fight sally

[01:57:41]
so yeah how'd that go for you um i enjoy it um i did a lot of like supply drops unfortunately

[01:57:48]
because i feel like the rocket launchers do not have a lot of ammo they don't well so they do it

[01:57:51]
automatically remember yeah yeah um but i feel like i feel like i was waiting for them quite a bit

[01:57:56]
yeah you do have to wait for them yeah um and i feel like

[01:58:07]
hold on give me two seconds oh never mind weird cat stuff um weird cat stuff okay weird cat stuff

[01:58:13]
yeah no i feel like for the most part i um got around it pretty unscathed the thing that i hate

[01:58:21]
the most is that um fucking earthquake uh like sort of crag homing attack thing do you know what i mean

[01:58:30]
yeah um and i just i don't know i feel like i with my battle dress on had to just kind of soak

[01:58:36]
up some damage here in there it didn't really seem like it was like if you're playing well it doesn't

[01:58:40]
seem like you can really not get hit by anything you know what i mean yeah for sure but i don't

[01:58:47]
know if this is the same for you maybe i'm just slow on the no i got hit like i like i i did my

[01:58:52]
best but i got hit quite a lot like it's kind of part of the process it feels like um but but i had

[01:58:59]
like for for the most part i had had a good amount of time um uh i you can't i had de walker on this

[01:59:07]
one you can't free aim with the de walkers missiles so i just kind of abandoned it um and just kind of

[01:59:13]
went on foot um uh yeah just like drops lasers there's a point where um it starts shooting

[01:59:20]
its rail gun you kind of have to hide otherwise you're gonna get aced real bad yeah if you're not

[01:59:26]
behind cover like pretty consistently i feel like you kind of get fucked up yeah um after um it loses

[01:59:35]
enough of its life um it'll start leaping at you in slow motion um and uh at this point mantis

[01:59:45]
will also appear in front of you and i found that if you take your sidearm and shoot at mantis um

[01:59:51]
mantis will get stunned and then sally will drop and will give you some like free time because sally

[01:59:56]
doesn't move oh i did not know that at all what sidearm did you use tranq or like a gun just like a

[02:00:01]
pistol just just any gun oh well see i haven't even designed i haven't even uh developed a single

[02:00:06]
sidearm that is not the tranq pistol i think the tranq pistol works too but i just happen to have like

[02:00:11]
a like a lethal gun too nice um but yeah it's it's really cool because it's done sally it stuns him

[02:00:18]
it's actually a um a side objective to shoot him nice did not know that yeah it's pretty cool i

[02:00:27]
found out on accident because i because i do this thing i equip my gun i equip my uh my like side

[02:00:32]
weapons on accident just by just because like i just i'll be playing other games in between

[02:00:38]
that the d-pad does other things and i'll press it and it'll put on and i'll forget um and it just

[02:00:43]
worked out for me at this point i was like oh fuck this is not what i want okay hello um

[02:00:49]
so yeah it's pretty cool but yeah sally goes down and uh dramatically explodes

[02:00:56]
and some sheep run away in abject terror ready for me to falten them here in a few moments yes um

[02:01:07]
cause helps him onto the chopper snake they land um uh snake says let's see skull face and they

[02:01:15]
fly back up to where he fell um and he's real fucked up oh yeah dude this is a level of gore

[02:01:24]
that i was not ready for i remember the first time i saw this cutscene i literally stood up and

[02:01:28]
went oh no yeah it's real fucking bad like he's cut he like when sally stomped near him like the

[02:01:34]
beam fell on him so he's just like half of his body is just and he's just like coughing up blood

[02:01:40]
and he's about to be in more parts to you oh yeah for sure um yeah he tries to reach for his gun

[02:01:46]
but it gets kicked away um and you find out they're being real mean mug oh yeah cause is not

[02:01:53]
is not happy by any of this um uh snake investigates that container that had the parasites in it

[02:02:03]
and the third one's missing um and uh skull face says that it's very close to snake um and snake

[02:02:11]
burns the other two samples on the fire um and then mantis shows up and takes um the vial one of

[02:02:20]
the the missing vial disappears um or does he take the missing vial or does he take one of the ones

[02:02:25]
in the fire before i think he takes one of the ones on the fire because the missing vial i think uh

[02:02:31]
and if you're open to us talking about it briefly right here yeah i think he's talking about quiet

[02:02:36]
yeah that's what i thought too yeah because i because it was very confusing because i remember

[02:02:40]
mantis taking the vial but i couldn't that i couldn't remember and then they mentioned the missing

[02:02:45]
third one was quiet um and i couldn't remember um i couldn't remember if mantis took the other one

[02:02:52]
the third one or not but yeah and i don't know if we're gonna talk about it this episode or not but

[02:02:56]
i feel like the implication to me was sort of like oh she was supposed to become your buddy buddy

[02:03:05]
yeah um which also feels really weird to me because it's like how are we relationship building

[02:03:10]
when you can't even talk this is yeah this feels that poorly conceived from the inception phase

[02:03:16]
again and if it interested me sign language could have solved any all those problems totally totally

[02:03:20]
totally but whatever um what do we do to skull face sam we do some fucked up stuff uh yeah he

[02:03:30]
he just says to finish him and he has to be finished off and snake uh um aims his gun uh

[02:03:37]
at this is like very akin to terminator to right yes like that like pump action like lever shotgun

[02:03:43]
or whatever mm-hmm and so snake just starts firing at school firing firing bullets um and it does

[02:03:51]
these flashes where it flashes the snake wearing his hospital stuff from the beginning of the game

[02:03:56]
um and then you stop for a second and cause grab snake's arm and then they shoot his legs off

[02:04:05]
yeah dude they shoot like all of his limbs off yeah real fucking um and while this happening

[02:04:10]
causes missing leg and his arm flashes just like snake did so he has he's like showing his limbs

[02:04:18]
missing um uh and it's like like there's just lots of shit happening um and they just like

[02:04:29]
essentially they use the gun to cut his limbs off which is fucking brutal oh my god um two grown

[02:04:35]
men shooting a gun or like ejaculating while suffering the limbs off of a burn man pretty much

[02:04:41]
yeah um and then after they're done doing this cause flips over the um the xof patch to make it

[02:04:48]
say fox symbolically and then um and then my favorite part tosses the gun down until skull

[02:04:55]
face to do it himself and then tell snake that their mission is complete and they walk away

[02:05:00]
yeah they don't kill him they just like leave him to yeah they just leave him to like bleed out

[02:05:04]
which i'm sure the shock would kill him in reality oh yeah for sure um but they as they walk away they

[02:05:11]
skull face um says you do it and then there's a gunshot and you turn around and hui kill them

[02:05:19]
oh yeah that's right yeah and then start celebrating his revenge like a fucking dweeb

[02:05:24]
and cousin snake are just like fucking you idiot cousin snake just pick the gun back up and start

[02:05:29]
shooting his limbs off yeah um again i know that we're gonna talk about it in the red but like

[02:05:37]
i kind of feel like this narrative peak was not deserved no like i i i get that um i get that

[02:05:52]
the whole point is like oh man he destroyed mother base he made us feel bad all man he took

[02:05:56]
miller's limbs away he made us feel bad um one none of those things were done by the player

[02:06:02]
and two um none of those things affect the player so like most people i feel like a majority of

[02:06:09]
people who played this didn't even play peace walker so there wasn't even like a fondness of

[02:06:13]
like oh i put this base together also the time in between was so long it's like i feel like we

[02:06:18]
would have been more pissed off and more bought into this revenge plot if the base got taken away

[02:06:25]
from us midway through the game um or like i don't even know if i would be pissed as much as i'd be

[02:06:31]
annoyed if the base got taken away because i feel like unfortunately like i just i don't have any real

[02:06:35]
affection for any of the characters or like i don't know it's weird like i in peace walker when

[02:06:42]
they showed more character i think i definitely had affection for the characters but in this game

[02:06:47]
like everybody feels so sterile and like distanced that like i don't care and i feel like the goal

[02:06:54]
here was for us to feel some sense of like elation at the death of skull phase or even like in the

[02:07:00]
jeep are we supposed to are we supposed to be like white knuckle gripping our chairs at home

[02:07:05]
being like i just want to punch this guy yeah and it's like i don't feel anything like like they

[02:07:10]
don't make you like so here's the thing they don't make you care enough about skull face as a villain

[02:07:17]
to make you hate him enough where you can maybe excuse um you can maybe excuse maybe not caring

[02:07:24]
about snake and cause and like those characters as much they don't make you care about skull face

[02:07:29]
enough as a villain even though we have expressed skull face is a cool villain they just didn't

[02:07:32]
yeah very cool anything with him yeah and they also don't make you care about um snake and cause

[02:07:40]
in this game yeah i just like as a matter of fact i feel like i don't care about anybody in this game

[02:07:44]
or anything and like well as a matter of fact i'm not prescribing that to everybody but yeah

[02:07:49]
with cause i feel like they do a job of they do like an active job of like making you dislike him

[02:07:55]
because he just gets real wild and crazy and unreasonable all the time

[02:08:00]
it's like we talked about osloz feeling likeable character in the entire fucking game

[02:08:05]
i feel like that's part of it's part of the issue of losing the codec and and i don't i'm not quite

[02:08:09]
sure how to mend that wound or bridge the gap but like the codec allows for human moments between

[02:08:17]
characters and um the codec in this game is just so razor thin that like or rather the radio or

[02:08:25]
whatever the intel um it's so razor thin that like i just don't get personality it's always so utilitarian

[02:08:31]
yeah that it's like i don't give a shit about this revenge plot like i can we just go home

[02:08:35]
like why are we even fucking with this guy like let's just go to the base and do whatever the

[02:08:39]
fuck we want like and it just feels very well it's just like and they do like kind of do stuff like

[02:08:45]
the whole fucking um burger thing that you listen to in the tapes that would like humanizes cause

[02:08:53]
and it makes me like cause but it doesn't happen until later in chapter two when i feel like they

[02:08:57]
couldn't even do it visually because his character visually is such a brooding fucking angsty dickhead

[02:09:03]
that like i wouldn't even buy that he's saying this you know what i mean so yeah so they don't

[02:09:09]
make you care about the heroes they don't make you care about the villain and they definitely

[02:09:12]
sure as fuck don't make you care about both of them in measure so like yeah this just felt like it was

[02:09:17]
i don't know like i and i thought playing through it the second time would fix it but like when i

[02:09:22]
got to this point i still was no why do i care it feels like great payoff for a different game

[02:09:28]
yeah it feels like great payoff for something nobody asked for

[02:09:32]
yeah and again like if you're playing this and you're like oh dude i bought in

[02:09:36]
fucking uh head to toe on this like that's totally fine but i just feel like for me

[02:09:44]
there is so much projection required on the part of the audience that it just doesn't feel

[02:09:51]
i don't know like maybe if the whole game had the storytelling chops of ground zeroes all the way

[02:09:58]
through up until this point i'd feel a little different but like i didn't even really feel

[02:10:02]
like skull face was behind the hospital situation either like i know he's supposed to be in the

[02:10:06]
detail in the plot is he was the one who made the call but like as the player like i was yeah i

[02:10:14]
want to see the bad guy doing the bad thing so i'm angry with him you know what i mean like it

[02:10:19]
could have been like it could have literally just been solved by him being there yeah exactly and i

[02:10:24]
don't know i just briefly like you just see him like take off in a helicopter or something like

[02:10:28]
that like when you're outside or something like that literally yeah mechanically at this point

[02:10:32]
i was more pissed off about the man on fire like i had i was more angry with him than with skull face

[02:10:38]
yeah for sure so so yeah so they don't make you care about the characters enough to justify this

[02:10:46]
this like really it's supposed to be like this really emotional like they're doing the flashbacks

[02:10:51]
like the flash yeah the music is very sad and yeah they're and and like they're trying to get you to

[02:10:57]
buy an emotionally to this and if you did that's great but it's just it doesn't feel earned yeah

[02:11:03]
like that's the whole thing is like you know for for emotional for payoffs like this for catharsis

[02:11:10]
like you need to earn your journey and it doesn't and i think part of it is how like scrap doodle the

[02:11:17]
fucking game is put together i like i like the term scrap doodle thank you i literally i just made

[02:11:23]
it up and i don't think i'm gonna use it more let's do it let's do it scrap doodle um yeah uh but

[02:11:29]
yeah so skull face is dead um thanks hui thanks hui um and they uh return to mother base and um

[02:11:38]
we take it we take cellanthropus back at this point right yeah yeah they take cellanthropus

[02:11:42]
they take sally back um um yeah it's just a trophy to put in your big empty trophy case of a base

[02:11:49]
yeah and you can't do anything with it whoo yay battle your soul yeah hui is really excited about

[02:11:56]
sally coming back um and sally they just kind of landed in the vehicle bay and my favorite thing

[02:12:02]
about is they land in the vehicle bay but like there are still people and shit down there and

[02:12:05]
everybody's like oh no and they try to like jump out of the way of it like they didn't plan this at

[02:12:10]
all they didn't like oh wait we're coming back with a giant bipedal mech can you guys like vacate the

[02:12:14]
premises like they just dropped it in there yeah it's like some real frat boy like hey i'm bringing

[02:12:19]
the couch over get out of the way and it's like all right um and cause kind of monologues about how

[02:12:28]
um they uh they'll never forget about their lost limbs and all kinds of stuff and um

[02:12:38]
they'll they'll hold rifles and missing hands and stand tall and missing legs

[02:12:43]
striding forward on the bones of the fallen like chill yeah like who the fuck writes this um

[02:12:51]
yeah do we want to talk about the trailer for chapter two the what i said do we want to talk

[02:12:56]
about the trailer for chapter two i mean yeah we can nice uh sorry i mean as my question is moot

[02:13:04]
by the fact that you were continuing to explain something while i was asking my question yeah

[02:13:08]
so well i'm almost done they they cause mentions that like that uh he doesn't feel like this is

[02:13:15]
over and that they'll that he'll never be whole again and then they um they do one of those things

[02:13:20]
that they pop on the screen um uh where they talk about like what happened what's happening in the

[02:13:26]
world and so it says i have a clip of it here there are an estimated 7100 languages spoken in the

[02:13:32]
world but only six are designated as official languages of the united nations one of these is

[02:13:37]
english and although it is the dominant lingua franca of modern times less than five percent of the

[02:13:41]
world's population are native speakers which is insane um yeah so elie uh everybody walks away

[02:13:50]
from sally and you got elie kind of lingers in front of him and then mantis appears in front of him

[02:13:55]
and hands him the missing vial of the english court uh english parasite um and uh

[02:14:02]
then you get the trailer for chapter two yay let's have a trailer for chapter two lots of burning

[02:14:09]
bodies uh dude the trailer is so good though lots of punching mirrors um no i agree it's very good

[02:14:19]
it definitely hypes up a much better picture of what we got pretty stoked yeah am i am i off base

[02:14:27]
there like it it's a very good trailer it's a very well cut put together trailer um but

[02:14:34]
the second chapter is kind of doodoo yeah like that's the kind of weird uh it's the sort of weird

[02:14:42]
catch 22 did this is that the trailer is better than the chapter so yeah so we've hit chapter two

[02:14:51]
this is race do you think it's races in the terms of like we're driving cars really quickly or do

[02:14:57]
you think it's um the other one the other one that's where that's where you're gonna go i like

[02:15:06]
how you responded with that what do you mean you people um yeah so we're gonna we uh we called an

[02:15:17]
audible um silently with our psychic minds uh that uh we're running pretty late so it's a it's a long

[02:15:27]
one so what we're gonna do is um we're going to call it there and we're going to end the episode

[02:15:33]
and we're going to wrap up chapter two the game and side content in the next episode

[02:15:42]
so with that being said that's it we made it we beat chapter one next week chapter two

[02:16:04]
so

[02:16:14]
yeah for all intents and purposes in a weird way to i guess chapter the way that i would kind of

[02:16:18]
put this is it feels like chapter two is chapter one in reverse how do you mean like it feels like

[02:16:25]
we're playing so i'm trying to think of the best way to phrase this it feels like the game goes

[02:16:33]
like this abc cba well that's that's just another way to explain what you just said except different

[02:16:44]
yeah it feels like because it's like hey we're going to start us off in the hospital we're gonna

[02:16:51]
go to afghanistan we're gonna do all this stuff we're gonna go to africa we're gonna do all this

[02:16:55]
stuff then we're gonna kill skull face and then in reverse chronological order we're going to do

[02:17:00]
that stuff again but in reverse and then we're gonna end where we started well it's gonna it's

[02:17:07]
kind of like you go doray me and then you go muray dope right and it's just like huh a lot of this

[02:17:15]
feels like padding to make it fit that mold i'd be curious to see um the order of the uh repeat

[02:17:24]
missions yeah for sure yeah in that direction um that's a good point might be grasping at nothing

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but whatever it's all about theories it's all about theories might be grasping at nothing but whatever

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that's the that's the motto of the podcast we might be grasping at nothing but whatever

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yep welcome to my be grasping mondays might be grasping mondays hey um but yeah so uh

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that was fun was it was that fun that was fun yeah okay good confirmation um

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so i it it falls to me to tell everybody about all of the lovely ways that you can follow us and

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and be nice to us and things of that nature um you can go on as i mentioned a couple times

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during the episode you can go on patreon.com slash metal gear mondays um and if you choose if you

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choose and you feel you deem us worthy you can donate money to our cause and get some perks in

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the meantime um i was a hero miller or cause a hero miller uh one dollar will get you access to our

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discord um where other fans of the show kind of talk and pop off and you know throw bows and

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sprinkle hot takes and share pictures of dogs share pictures of dogs and uh play pathfinder

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with each other me and this is a key and peel deep cut and they put uh they put a

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uh a post on the chain wax god cross uh yeah um so yeah so uh so that's pretty cool two dollars a

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month will get you um episodes early so basically we record these pretty pretty far in advance these

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days um so a lot of people patrons have heard this way early than the the main feed uh so you

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get episodes early you also get a super special bonus episode that we also alluded to called the

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patriot club where we talk about like non-metal gear stuff it used to be very prescribed topics and

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then we decided that it was more fun if we didn't uh make ourselves do work for that podcast like we

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do for this for this podcast arguably arguably so we uh so we just uh we just kind of made it a little

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bit looser uh very recently a couple weeks ago uh when we really enjoy it we think it's really good

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and you should listen to it two dollars a month um and there are lots of other tiers you can check

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them out at patreon.com slash middle gear mondays um you can also follow us on facebook uh facebook

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slash middle gear mondays at metal gear monday on twitter um you can go follow us on instagram

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at metal gear mondays where we post like clips and and uh memes and all kinds of stuff um pictures

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of sam pictures of me i posted i posted videos of my face before on the instagram um i i uh yeah

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i'm very i'm cute so whatever um and you could also go to bit.ly for slash uh mgm store uh to get

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some merch that i designed if you so choose we've got some people that have bought those in the

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past and we really appreciate that so uh so yeah check that out and as always to find all of these

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things there's just one thing you have to remember it's metal gear mondays dot com and that has links

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to everything that we just talked about i just i just spat out of my mouth hole so go there there's

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a youtube on there too please go to yeah oh yeah the youtube fucking talk about the youtube alessio

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yeah so i am uh slowly very slowly uh putting all of our backlog on youtube uh i think we are

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including the remasters and everything up to episode six right now my goal is to uh hopefully like

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on fridays if i've got like a slow work day towards the end of the days just kind of upload

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um export them in the background and then just upload like big chunks of them on fridays

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um and yeah just kind of work back through that but if you guys wouldn't mind to get a custom url

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as sam mentioned you go to metalgear mondays dot com to find it but to get a custom like youtube.com

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slash metal gear mondays we need a hundred subscribers and we're up to like 50 give or take

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which is which is wild so i i just want to express how um how appreciative i am of that

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when we it happened very fast it did happen very but within a couple of days we had like 33 i think

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the last time i checked and now we have like 50 something it's pretty damn cool um uh

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what i want to say is that like so so i'm not above or i'm not i'm not above talking about like

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my past failures i'll i'll admit to myself and to everybody else that you know no where's the

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geek time was not as successful as i kind of wanted it to be you know what i mean um and i love

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doing geek time and metal gear mondays did start as a part of geek time but it it just never kind

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of took off and i'm very thankful that you guys are like really enjoying what we do with metal

[02:22:46]
gear mondays because it has taken off in a way that i that i that fills my heart fills that hole in

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my heart so the fact that it's it's probably gonna be very quickly get us get us a custom url

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is insane and i appreciate that so much so yeah you should take us months of yeah begging people

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to get some of these numbers 20 yeah which uh zach james still lives as a destroyed video of a

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snakes revenge car yeah he does doesn't he we uh never forget we need to get on that we need him

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to get on that when he's back from his uh his secret mission yeah zach i'll give you one extra

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bonus if you could get a partner and the two of you hold hands and shoot a gun at the snakes

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and then throw the gun down and say do it yourself do it yourself holy

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shit i would definitely give you bonus points i don't know when he's gonna listen to this episode

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so we for sure need to message him yes please sir oh man yeah that's yeah so that's all of her

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that's all of our social media stuff but yeah like i said all of this stuff is at middle gear

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mondays.com so if you forget very hard to forget because all the links are all the same thing

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but if you forget middle gear mondays.com is the place to go and i still have to update the um

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i think it was the ground zero's episode that just went up recently i still have to go in there and

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add the actual body text to the website post for that episode because i uh was out of town

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and uh kind of doing things real quick um so if you are somebody who checks us out i know a

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couple people comment on the episodes as they go live on the website if you're one of the people

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that use the website to listen to the podcast um i apologize for the delay in the links there by the

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time you listen to this it probably will have been solved weeks ago and so the apology is future but

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yes sometimes the delay in apology is better than no apology at all you know what i mean this is more

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for me but yeah yeah it's more it's more to use it's yeah it's more for us than it is for you

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which isn't that what an apology should always be about right right i agree okay um elicia where

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can i find you on the internet uh at ac summerfield or ac summerfield.com i will more than likely

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start using ac summerfield.com uh a little bit more frequently than before because six weeks

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from this thursday which is april the 20th 25th um i will be filming my movie uh that i have spent

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over a year and a half trying to produce and well over five years uh trying to write so um

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yeah sometimes sometimes creatives work very slowly this is one of those times yeah um but

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i'm very excited to like see where that goes i my favorite thing about being friends with

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alessio is that when he works on cool shit i get to see all the cool shit before everybody

[02:25:41]
else sees all the cool shit and this is gonna be cool this is gonna be cool shit so yeah you can be

[02:25:47]
excited about it this is gonna be like my ground zeroes hopefully yeah it's gonna feel like a big

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old jump you're gonna be like whoa dude is this the same guy like i'm hoping so yeah i'm very excited

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as well so right on um you can find me on twitter at sandal that's s a n j u u l that's about it

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i've been i've been uh i've been on a fire uh on twitter recently i've been doing some doing some uh

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some pretty tip top tweets so you should follow me if you want her you're on fire um you can um

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you can also directly tag us and uh awaken us from our slumber on the discord so consider

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joining and doing that if you want to talk to us yep very true that's the thing um yeah and like

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i mentioned at the top of the episode um if you were in seattle at all memorial day weekend we

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are going to be hanging out um at a freemont brewing company in seattle on um may 25th that's a saturday

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um and it's going to be at nine we said uh yeah i think so um i see that there's an unpublished

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facebook event page so i think yeah well i wanted to i i made it and then i realized that i wanted

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to actually go um go to the location for you to the location yeah it might have to be a little

[02:27:16]
bit earlier we like this there's a chance that the location changes again so whatever whatever the uh

[02:27:24]
whatever the published facebook invite says is what it's going to be so i'm just going to stop

[02:27:28]
fucking talking about it on the podcast it's going to be fun yeah yeah sam talking about it i think is

[02:27:35]
going to be outdated very quickly by the yeah so i have yeah for sure uh so just yeah just pay

[02:27:40]
attention to the social media and we'll we'll get you but um yeah it'll be cool um is that i think

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that's everything sam is it oh we're dubbing it the uh don't bring a knife to her even though it's

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only one spot yeah please please don't bring a knife please don't bring a knife don't bring

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a knife to her 2019 please don't bring a knife that's that's the subtitle yay

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but yeah i think that's it right yeah you know what you could bring and this might be fun

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okay you could you could just come with some corrugated cardboard and uh show us your box

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gross yeah it's just a box please don't put anything gross in the box but please don't put

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anything gross yeah instead of it you know dicking a box just like it's just a box can we just do that

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look at some dicks in a box i don't i don't know i look at some dicks in a box i look at you know

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you know if you it's tits in a box fucking i don't care do what you do it makes you happy

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as long as it doesn't hurt others i'm into it but i feel like can we just relegate the like any of

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the private parts and boxes to sam yeah i don't want to look at your private parts i'm sorry oh

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wow that's gonna make him feel real bad about their private parts i'm kidding please please

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shiffy please show me your penis

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please no nudity and please no knives yes fuck bye god what the shit just a box it's just a box

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come on and jam and welcome to the slam it's just a box come on it's just a box now

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ladies and gentlemen for the first time or for the last time no i hate that

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start again why did i say that start again don't put this in

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i meant to say so there's more words than i meant to say and it didn't it didn't pan out

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ah

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i'm just trying to figure out where your head was going with that

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i was trying to say whether you're listening for the first time or for the last time we appreciate

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you for joining us on metal gear monday's and it was gonna be like a thing i'm trying to find my

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my path your spirit daddy's my spirit i'm trying to find my spirit daddies ladies gentlemen and

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spirit daddy's

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i feel like i have to keep all of them you have to clip it for the end of the episode is what you

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have to do this can't be the intro they can't they can't walk in on us like half dressed still

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cleaning the apartment no for real oh okay let me try again let me compose myself