#216: Death Stranding 2 (2025) Predictions & Pre-Release

The time is nearly upon us. The stranding shall be death, yet again. 

This week, we're joined by James Reichmuth and we're discussing the road to release, predictions for what the game has in store for us, and things we're less excited about.

Originally, this week's episode was meant to be an interview with Jeff Leach, who is credited as playing "Pierre Southern", a character yet to be revealed from Death Stranding 2. That interview will now air next week.

Transcript

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Alessio
Hey, this is Alessio coming at you before the episode. Due to some scheduling. We actually ended up having to swap what this episode would have been for another episode. The interview was supposed to go out this week. However, due to some scheduling changes, the interview is going to go out next Monday. So that is a weekly episodes starting now.

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Alessio
So instead you're going to get, James, Lily and myself talking about predictions before Death Stranding two releases. And, just shooting the shit and prepping for, pre game. So yeah, please enjoy. And next week, join us for our interview with Jeff Leach. Thank you so much.

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James
You're listening to Metal Gear Mondays, the greatest Metal Gear podcast ever. I don't agree with you on all the links on Monday. Every day. How did you patch into my radio frequency? It stinks in here. That.

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Alessio
Ladies gears, men, babies and gentle thems. You're listening to Metal Gear Mondays.

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James
The.

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Alessio
Podcast that I keep forgetting. This tagline.

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James
For.

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Alessio
Podcast.

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Lilliana
What would you say you do here?

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James
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Alessio
The podcast that covers all things Metal Gear from top to bottom, left to right, inside and out, and pseudo chronological order. Arguably the most thorough and longest running Metal Gear podcast on the internet. As occasionally I am your host, Alessio Summerfield. And today I am joined by Liliana.

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Lilliana
Right. That is, top fan of Cam Clarke on Facebook. Lily on the right to you, Mr..

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Alessio
Oh, I totally forgot to respond to your text. Yes you did gratulations on.

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Lilliana
I was just I was just looking on Facebook and and said I liked one of these posts and it said, you're a top fan. And I said, you're goddamn right I am, motherfucker, I.

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James
Say, I.

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Alessio
Responded back and like, Cam's my top fan. And we're also joined by James Drake. Myth. Sorry.

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James
And I don't want to cut you off. Hello? It's me. I'm sorry. I need to interrupt. Am I am I coming through okay? Yeah. You sound fine. Okay, I will, I'm looking at the thing. I haven't used Lancaster in a long time, and I didn't see, like, my waveform, so I went to make.

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Lilliana
The same problem.

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Alessio
Very clearly.

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James
Yeah. Okay. Perfect. Great.

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Alessio
I think for some reason, it. Shit, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I don't know why. It's just like we want to keep yours super special.

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James
Okay. Great. I can see it. Yeah. Okay. Keep it a little secret from you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Alessio
James is back. James. Well, I.

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James
Said.

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Alessio
You were on other than the four part.

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James
Oh, was it like, Peace Walker stuff? Was it?

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Alessio
But sounds.

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James
That sounds. That feels right. Well, did we do anything? Cause that was the.

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Alessio
That was the big James season, like. Yeah, rising and then all that shit. Peace.

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James
Well, yeah, that was what we do. Five I can't wait.

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Lilliana
You weren't on fire. It was I mean I wasn't I was just me.

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James
Okay?

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Alessio
I think Isaac was on the ground.

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Lilliana
Zeroes, right? Yeah. Isaac was like, yeah.

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James
Yeah, yeah, I remember you're asking for five. Yeah, yeah KSP yeah.

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Lilliana
Because it was because I was like, peak auditions. Like I hate audition. Oh. Yeah. Hughie. Sins of the father I.

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James
Mean, I yeah, I've come around, I think I feel a little softer. I feel a little softer towards them. Now. I really do like only a little bit.

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Alessio
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of things that we don't feel soft about, we'll get into it, but.

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James
I just, I just.

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Alessio
I just want to be quoted, I want to come out on Front Street and just say, doll man fucking sucks because you.

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James
Mean you're not a card for doll man? Come up.

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Alessio
Every time I see him, there's a part of me that's like. I'm like, I want to give him a chance. And then he visceral disgust.

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James
Like, oh, he's got a strange demeanor. Above them.

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Alessio
I think it's the mismatched frame rate, too. Like, I get they're going for, like, it's uncomfortable.

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James
It's not comfortable. I wonder where in the process the Doll Man was conceived, and decided that they they would just be.

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Lilliana
Before Death Stranding. One if we're quite if we're being quite honest, he was like, I have I need to do this and I have the it's.

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James
All been leading to this. Well.

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Lilliana
That's all I've, all the theory is everything's been happening. Everything is the main event of Doll Man. Do you think it would be more or less uncomfortable? His frame rate was normal, but everybody else is just the weird, sketchy. Would that be more or less uncomfortable in the way that it is?

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Alessio
I feel like even him being in full frame rate a period would be okay.

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James
I'd prefer him to not exist in my. Yeah, sure. Out my vision. Yeah.

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Alessio
Truly, I think so. There was something that happened in killer seven, an old suit of. Yeah, that has since then given me this, like, unconditional horror where, like, so in killer seven, there's this sequence where, there's a boss fight and everybody looks super stylized and very, like, realistic proportions. Yeah. And then you have this boss fight with what is essentially like a Sailor Moon anime girl, but she looks like a Sailor Moon anime girl is just in real life.

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Alessio
Like, like if Sailor Moon existed as she is, but like in our reality. And it made me so deeply uncomfortable to like, what do I have conditional fears now is just like an animated character existing in reality, just breaking my brain like, yeah, Who Framed Roger rabbit was a horror film?

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James
Oh yeah. Yeah.

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Alessio
And Damien checks that box. I realized he, like, gives me the same discomfort. Like. Yeah, uncanny.

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James
Like he doesn't belong. Where is.

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Alessio
Yeah. I was saying this in a text conversation with you two yesterday. Where, like, if I saw him in real life, I would have a snap fucking moment where I would just start slamming my feet into him and smashing him.

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James
Yes.

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Alessio
The ground until this motherfucker was just a paste.

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James
It's how I feel when I see a silverfish that is.

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Lilliana
Oh, the the closest equivalent things.

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James
Yeah. Fuck those things.

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Alessio
Anyway, I'm sorry.

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Lilliana
It was silverfish. Now, introducing our guest, Jonathan Roomie, the voice of Donovan.

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Alessio
Yeah, hopefully we are going to have him on it.

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Lilliana
Something? Yeah, that'll be great. Yeah. We get asked, why does all man fucking suck so much? Josh? Yeah, yeah. What you talking about? Please, why have you been doing this to us?

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Alessio
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Lilliana
But I'm going to strangle to death with my bare hands, and he knows why.

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James
Skyler.

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Lilliana
He probably doesn't, because I haven't said anything on the discord about it. But I'm coming for you.

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James
You heard it here first.

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Lilliana
You heard it here first.

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James
This is the speculations.

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Alessio
Of.

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James
One's deceptions.

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Alessio
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Alessio
Like the moment you hit get, you also get video episode. Whoa. Just for those people really quickly, I'm going to stand up.

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Lilliana
Yeah.

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James
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Alessio
And I'm wearing this really cool Metal Gear Solid four shirt. Lily, would you like to tell everybody where it came from?

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Lilliana
Yes. So, listener pal Sam, we call him because before I transitioned, there were multiple Sams on the discord, and so they called, Irish Sam pal Sam because of the Pal region. And so pal Sam reached out to me at some point in the last, like he was like last year, maybe a year before I was like, hey, I have this Metal Gear Solid four shirt that, I don't remember why he was.

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Lilliana
I think he was just like, down. He's just downsizing a little bit, and he's like, do you want it? And I was like, sure. So he sent it to me and it was my size. I could, I could wear it. But it gets here and it's like a European version of myself, smaller and smaller than fucking large ass Americans.

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Lilliana
Right. And so, yeah.

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Alessio
Kind of like went on, in Italy is a fucking small right in America. Like, literally. I have a shirt like that.

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Lilliana
Right. Exactly. So, I was like, this would probably fit a so I message. I was like, do you want this? And he was like, yeah. So I sent it to him. Or did I just send it to you? Okay.

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Alessio
I think I feel like you just texted me and asked me my shirt size. Yeah. And then I was like, you want.

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Lilliana
A new address? Because you would just move to it?

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Alessio
Yeah. I was like, what are you sending? You're like, you'll see. And then it showed up. So. Yeah. Anyway, so nice shirt. I don't know why I got some like weird white schmutz on it that I just cannot get out. So that's the one I.

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James
Did for the schmutz.

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Lilliana
You guys have like a bunch of, like, unidentifiable objects on you at all times because, like, spoilers for the for the Patriot Club on the most recent Patriot.

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Alessio
Oh, yeah.

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Lilliana
About serial. You led that episode off talking about how you recovered it, like baby.

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Alessio
Jet things all.

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James
Yeah.

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Alessio
Because when I hugged my daughter or something, she loves to just wipe her face on my shoulder.

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James
Yeah.

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Alessio
Anyway, speaking of daughters, what are we talking about today, guys?

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James


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Lilliana
Oh my God. Well, Death Stranding two is on the horizon. As you're listening to this. You may or may not even be playing it because it is. And I'm going to potentially date us, but based on our carefully laid plans, because we are professionals. Today is the day that you can be playing Death Stranding two if you preordered it.

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Lilliana
So preorders came out a couple days early than the game release.

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Alessio
Well, the day after today.

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Lilliana
The day after. Yeah. The day after. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So, so you may even be playing it or you may have had a chance to touch it at this point. Techy, touchy. But we live in the past. This is the past version of us that haven't been graced by the opportunity yet. So we're thinking, we're we're ruminating.

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Lilliana
We're. Jonathan ruminating.

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Alessio
Doll. No. Yeah, exactly. So when I hear doll hair, I become like.

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Lilliana
Clench your eye, clench your butthole. We're here to talk about some of our expectations for Death Stranding to. We're here to talk about some of our theories for Death Stranding to. And, that.

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Alessio
That second part is going to be interesting, considering that I've been on, like, media blackout for, like, the last. Yes.

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Lilliana
Yeah. Yeah, I think I know a little bit more than Alicia, but I've mostly also been on blackout. James, have you been.

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James
I've also mostly been on blackout. I've seen I've watched a little bit of what's come out trailer wise. I caught a little bit of the gameplay reveal, like enough to, like, get a little bit more excited, get ready. But also, like, I've been trying to kind of stay away, but I have followed Hideo Kojima has a press tour on this.

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James
Again, I find his comments very interesting.

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Lilliana
He did find it interesting. I did, and he did an interview with Game Informer and his the quote that they use for the headline was maybe this is a problem. Hideo Kojima says about early Death Stranding to praise.

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James
Yeah, he.

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Alessio
Notably and I kind of agree with the sentiment. He notably said that like, I can remember when he said this, but he was saying that during the original Death Stranding, during playtesting, it seemed like half the audience really loved it, and the other half absolutely hated it. And like, walked out of the room, and that he was like, perfect.

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James
Yeah.

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Lilliana
And he's upset. That's exact because I watched it. This is exactly what he's talking about, where he talks about like he would rather have for people like it, like have have it changed for people's life and then have the other six people just not like it?

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Alessio
That says no man has games that are like $250 million to make it right?

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Lilliana
Right, exactly. Whereas with Death Stranding two, he's noticed that like nine people really like it and treat it like this blockbuster thing. But he doesn't find that as satisfying. So it's like.

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James
We'll get into.

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Lilliana
This, cause, you know.

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Alessio
My, my negative feelings on this game are very much so tied to some of that. So, like. Yeah, we'll get into that. There's a certain direction that has been coming up a lot in the marketing that I'm, like, not exactly excited about. Oh, interesting. Yeah, but other than that, James, why the fuck are you here?

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Alessio
Somebody might be.

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James
Asking. You know, I feel like I've been actually. I mean, I been here the whole time. Yeah.

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Alessio
Just actually, canonically, I've just been. Yeah. James is like, quietly, just on the call for the last. All the last episode.

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Lilliana
James. Like me, it's what gives you the fucking right?

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James
Yeah. No, I just, I was such a naysayer about Metal Gear for so long. And Hideo Kojima, and then the last five years have changed me. And I'm very excited to play Death Stranding to. And so I'm here to talk about.

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Alessio
James has entered the chat. Yeah.

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James
I yeah, that's funny.

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Lilliana
Yeah.

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James
So so yeah.

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Alessio
What was the most.

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Lilliana
Striking you've.

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Alessio
Was there a moment, was there a moment where you were like, actually I kind of dig this.

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James
Well, I will say, the original Death Stranding, one, low roar became like my favorite music musician. R.I.P. very sad. Yeah, yeah. But I think, like, I don't know, I found something very meditative about the first game, and I was really trying to practice, like, slowing down. And I found that it was sometimes good practice in slowing down.

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James
Which I'm curious to see how much of that remains.

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Alessio
Yeah. I think, I think that's kind of yeah. Where my negativity is but yeah.

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Lilliana
Like this I I'm, I'm kind of with you there. I famously and this is something that I've addressed a couple of times, but I think now that we're officially talking about Death Stranding in this setting. Famously I think when we did the coverage for Death Stranding, one back when, we were in a pretty like the, I made the very shortsighted decision that we needed to get this done before a Christmas break.

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Lilliana
And so I think we burned ourselves out on death Stranding one. And so I feel like my experience for the show was perhaps, a little more negative than I think it would have been if I could have given it a chance to play. I could have given myself a chance to play normally. And so, like that. That is true.

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Lilliana
I also think that, James, you are correct in that like it's really good at like practicing that like meditative, like slow down type of mentality. There are a lot of moments too where like there's like a moment like towards the, towards the end. But when you're like getting to where it's not for the first time and you credit Neil.

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Lilliana
Yes, it's down the hill low or falling behind it. And like I just started crying when that. Yeah that was and it's filled with moments like that. And I honestly like it. Go ahead.

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Alessio
I was going to say I'm not going to lie, I really, really enjoyed not having to play that for the show.

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James
Yeah, I think yeah, I.

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Alessio
100% I think I played that game. It took me like six months to finish.

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James
Yeah. But I started like three times before it finally clicked like it, it took me. I probably got to that the first like the windmill like 2 or 3 times and then started over because I would take such a long break and like. And then yes, I mean just clicked where I was just like, oh, like again, I'm just cruising.

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James
This is good. Like mechanically the other.

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Alessio
And like stylistically great. I think all the negatives I had at the time were like narrative.

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James
Oh for.

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Lilliana
Sure. That's what I was going to say. It's a yeah, it's a game that gets in its own way a lot.

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James
I say yes, yeah. Especially like in the lab, the back half of the game, I felt like narrative wise was just like, all right, like we're going to places that. Yeah, I don't know about. I will say though, so like the I beat Death Stranding one for the first time, probably like 8 or 9 months ago now.

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James
And one thing I'm excited about for Death Stranding two is to actually be there more in the beginning because, like, it kind of felt like I was like, everything's about like the world built like all the shortcuts for. Yeah, like for anyone at this point. Yeah. I was like, there are ladders everywhere. Like, I don't need shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Alessio
I'm not gonna lie. I think just like my sort of watershed moment that I think made Death Stranding, like, click for me in like, a really big way was I can remember what I was doing. I think I was coming back from doing some sort of NPC side quest thing. And very similarly, I like kind of came up to a tall point and looked down and realized I had kind of like inadvertently walked myself down into a valley.

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Alessio
I couldn't get out of it. And it was like there was like a huge river in the middle of it. Yeah. And, nontraditional game design. There was like, creepers built path to get around it. And so it was literally like it felt like a boss fight, like it was like me versus the fucking river. Yeah.

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Alessio
And I was like, oh, I love this. I was like, this is awesome. Like, this feels great. And it was, I don't know, I think those moments were like the best moments for me.

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Lilliana
It's a game. It's a game that I think doesn't really need boss fights in a lot of ways. Maybe like the the couple of like really big ones towards the end, maybe not. The whale, the fucking whale. But like, it's a game that I think doesn't necessarily need boss fights because the struggle of getting around sometimes and figuring that out feels like.

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James
Yeah.

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Lilliana
The accomplishment you'd get from beating a really tough boss, just like, yeah. So it's like especially within the mountain area, like in the snowy mountain area, like that was fuckin.

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James
Yeah, that.

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Lilliana
Was harrowing.

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James
For the combat was like my least favorite part of Death Stranding one.

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Alessio
Like, I think I'm just gonna jump ahead to what I'm not looking forward to.

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James
Yeah, yeah.

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Lilliana
Preach on that.

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Alessio
I don't want there to be more combat.

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James
Right?

00;19;06;12 - 00;19;21;05
Alessio
Like, I'm kind of irritated by the fact that, like, all the press coverage so far that I have seen until I went on like, blackout was all about like it plays more like Metal Gear Solid five. There's like shooting and bass raiding and like, vehicle thievery.

00;19;21;07 - 00;19;21;22
James
And I'm just.

00;19;21;22 - 00;19;22;21
Alessio
Like, bro. What?

00;19;22;22 - 00;19;24;20
Lilliana
Like it's not what it's about. That's.

00;19;24;24 - 00;19;26;01
James
Yeah, I keep it just.

00;19;26;04 - 00;19;28;18
Alessio
Like a sick fucking GranTurismo of hiking.

00;19;28;24 - 00;19;30;06
James
Like like where.

00;19;30;06 - 00;19;35;22
Alessio
Is that, bro? Like, that's what I want to play. I don't know. That wasn't everybody's cup of tea.

00;19;35;25 - 00;19;47;22
James
But, like. Yeah, but I thought that was his point, I completely agree. Yeah, that's my concern with it as well as like it does feel very like, the things that you like to Metal Gear Solid five, we're going to add in because.

00;19;47;22 - 00;19;49;07
Alessio
I love your George Lucas Pat.

00;19;49;08 - 00;19;52;07
James
Oswald. Oh, wow.

00;19;52;09 - 00;19;52;21
Lilliana
It's like.

00;19;52;21 - 00;20;07;03
James
Poetry. It rhymes. Exactly. Yeah. Snakes a baby. But but I also wonder how much of it. I do wonder how.

00;20;07;05 - 00;20;20;22
James
I do wonder how much of it is like marketing, though, because, like. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like it's hard to. It's hard for anybody. I feel like to market something that's not just fucking action packed. Yeah. For sure.

00;20;20;24 - 00;20;34;11
Alessio
Yeah. This is crazy. Like, I know we it's weird. I so we, we have, like, an itinerary, kind of like an agenda. And I just glanced at it and realized that I have not been looking at it at all, and we have been hitting everything in the exact order that I am in.

00;20;34;14 - 00;20;36;10
James
What up? That's fucking table.

00;20;36;10 - 00;20;40;08
Lilliana
Fucking. We're fucking Chad pilled right now.

00;20;40;09 - 00;20;51;24
Alessio
Yeah, I do, I yeah, I don't know. I'm also curious. So there was that whole it's funny I'm like on media blackout. Yeah. I feel like I just intuitively know every everything.

00;20;51;28 - 00;20;53;23
James
Yeah. There was that whole.

00;20;53;23 - 00;20;57;24
Alessio
There was a whole presentation about the dynamic sound. Right? Which like.

00;20;58;01 - 00;20;58;19
James
Yeah.

00;20;58;22 - 00;21;08;11
Alessio
For those of you who don't know, there was like a whole presentation on like, as things change while you're playing, the music changes and I'm rolling my fucking eyes out of my head and being like, is it 1996?

00;21;08;11 - 00;21;26;29
James
Like, cool. Yeah. Like I'm pretty sure it is your fucking Daggerfall. Yes. It was like, this is not a new. I appreciated that they tried to present it as like a new, never before seen technology, but I was just like, this is not. Yeah. No way. You think it is.

00;21;27;02 - 00;21;31;13
Alessio
The humor, though, is that they were talking over at all of the music while they were present.

00;21;31;14 - 00;21;32;04
Lilliana
Oh yeah.

00;21;32;05 - 00;21;34;03
Alessio
Yeah, like I haven't heard it. And I'm curious.

00;21;34;03 - 00;21;37;25
James
Describing the drum beats, it's like, yeah, I heard a fucking drum this whole time.

00;21;37;27 - 00;21;45;18
Alessio
I liked what's his name? The guy who did the score for the first one. Very Swedish name.

00;21;45;21 - 00;21;48;21
Lilliana
Oh my God. Oh, Ludic fossil.

00;21;48;26 - 00;21;50;24
Alessio
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I liked him a lot, but now it's.

00;21;50;24 - 00;21;55;00
James
This guy's wicked good kid. Yeah, good fucking rules.

00;21;55;05 - 00;21;57;12
Lilliana
I'm honestly surprised that you haven't heard of wood, kid.

00;21;57;13 - 00;22;01;06
James
I'm gonna surprise you over what kid, either. I also really enjoy. Watch it.

00;22;01;09 - 00;22;11;12
Lilliana
The first time I ever heard wood kid, he the the really, really good. Assassin's Creed Revelations trailer, which was the third.

00;22;11;17 - 00;22;13;20
Alessio
Oh, wow. That's a while ago. Yeah.

00;22;13;23 - 00;22;26;24
Lilliana
His son iron was the music track that was in that trailer. And that was the first time I heard iron. Iron is such a great song. I really, really like what kid he's got. Like, such a unique. His like, accent is like super unique. And so it, like, makes this nice. It sounds like.

00;22;26;24 - 00;22;31;12
James
He, he directs a lot of music videos too. Yeah, I was going to say pop music primarily.

00;22;31;12 - 00;22;35;12
Alessio
What? Like if you like, if you look him up, it's like that is like for Taylor Swift.

00;22;35;12 - 00;22;48;09
James
Beyoncé type shit. Yeah. That's crazy. So it's an interesting Hideo Kojima in his, like, love of pop and pop culture, though, is like kind of funny to see. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00;22;48;11 - 00;22;57;22
Lilliana
It's kind of like like it's like it's like Benny Blanco is like super prolific and like, like you see him and you're like, who the fuck is Benny Blanco? That same fuck.

00;22;57;25 - 00;22;59;21
James
He makes it. Yeah.

00;22;59;24 - 00;23;04;05
Alessio
What's interesting to me. So going and going back to Doll Man first.

00;23;04;07 - 00;23;05;19
James
Yeah. Oh. What?

00;23;05;22 - 00;23;08;06
Lilliana
I'm leaving.

00;23;08;08 - 00;23;12;06
James
You, a small man can't hurt us here.

00;23;12;09 - 00;23;36;05
Alessio
Yeah, right. Essentially what I kind of discovered when we were looking at him up to, like, reach out to him. What's his name? Jonathan. Rumi. Is that he's sort of primarily known for, like, TV stuff and, like, playing Jesus and, like. Yeah, not the kind of, like, I don't know, like crazy over the top fucking quadruple a Hollywood talent.

00;23;36;05 - 00;23;54;00
Alessio
Like, I'm sure he's fantastic. Yeah. I'm not trying to belittle him, but when you're, like, talking about, like, Margaret Qualley and all these other people who are like Oscar noms or whatever, it's like, I guess Lacy do is who comes to mind where it's like very upper echelon, sort of like I.

00;23;54;00 - 00;23;59;08
Lilliana
Think has less to do with, like him and more to do with Kojima.

00;23;59;10 - 00;24;02;13
Alessio
Well, I'm just curious how Kojima even fucking got him.

00;24;02;14 - 00;24;03;27
James
That's what I want to know.

00;24;03;29 - 00;24;10;16
Lilliana
Is like a fucking king. Clouds of fucking Hollywood. That is like, welcome to Kojima, cock suckers, my friend.

00;24;10;19 - 00;24;19;21
James
Yeah, well, and, the person that the, likeness is based off of is like a Turkish German film director.

00;24;19;25 - 00;24;20;11
Alessio
Is it not?

00;24;20;11 - 00;24;22;01
Lilliana
Yeah. Which one we really love.

00;24;22;03 - 00;24;24;22
James
Yeah. Right.

00;24;24;24 - 00;24;35;17
Alessio
I'm going to say this. If Sam Lake, if they hadn't already busted the Sam Lake. Not in Death Stranding. One is like an NPC cameo. It would have been fucking amazing to have Doll Man be Sam Lake.

00;24;35;17 - 00;24;36;09
James
That would have been awesome.

00;24;36;14 - 00;24;38;08
Alessio
That would have flipped me completely. I would have been like.

00;24;38;08 - 00;24;39;13
James
I love it. I have an incredible.

00;24;39;20 - 00;24;43;02
Lilliana
I would necessarily love the phrase Buster Sam.

00;24;43;02 - 00;24;48;17
James
Like I. Don't realize it's accurate back there.

00;24;48;21 - 00;25;08;27
Lilliana
Yeah, it is accurate before I get too far away from it too. The thing that I do want to bring up about, like the combat stuff, is like, we've heard a bunch about how, it's more about the stick this time, whereas like, the first one was about building connections and like building bridges. It was more about the rope.

00;25;08;29 - 00;25;27;13
Lilliana
This one's more about the stick. And should we have connected in the opposite? So I think it stands to reason that like there is going to be more confrontation and more conflict. I think it makes sense. Well like I said not necessarily I don't necessarily want it, but I think maybe that is like a central thesis for the whole thing.

00;25;27;15 - 00;25;50;21
Lilliana
And if that is going to be the case, I am thankful that the combat is going to be more like a game that I enjoy the combat of versus. Yeah, that's a good point because it was a pain in the fucking ass and one I really could get into again to a conflict. So if it's going to be a little bit more fluid, a little bit more dynamic, a little bit more choose your own adventure than it was in one, I'd rather.

00;25;50;25 - 00;25;56;29
Lilliana
And the theming is going to be more about right, right. That confrontation. I'd rather it be like that. That'd be how it was.

00;25;57;02 - 00;26;05;09
Alessio
So I'm curious to see how they're going to thread the needle of like when people die and Death Stranding the world, they fucking nuke themselves into it.

00;26;05;11 - 00;26;06;12
James
Right?

00;26;06;14 - 00;26;12;10
Lilliana
So here is what I heard from one of the previews. I've been trying to stay away from stuff, but like you.

00;26;12;12 - 00;26;16;08
Alessio
Well, because they didn't crater out in the first game, well, you couldn't kill them. You would like you, could you?

00;26;16;08 - 00;26;24;11
Lilliana
Also, you also still can't kill them in this one is the thing. So they give you like stun. It's like rubber bullets and stuff. So like they don't die. I mean, I think that's what I, that's what I think.

00;26;24;12 - 00;26;25;22
Alessio
That's the universe.

00;26;25;25 - 00;26;31;09
Lilliana
Yeah. I don't know if it's true. Like, why would you have, like, real bullets when you can cause a fucking nuclear explosion every time you kill somebody?

00;26;31;09 - 00;26;32;00
James
But when you're.

00;26;32;02 - 00;26;45;10
Alessio
So. I hate to say this, but the only times I died and Death Stranding were, like, single digits, low single digits. And it was mostly bosses. So I never really got to experience if we actually did avoid out in the world.

00;26;45;12 - 00;26;46;07
Lilliana
It does.

00;26;46;09 - 00;26;47;07
Alessio
Oh, wow.

00;26;47;10 - 00;26;54;10
Lilliana
Is it pretty crazy? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure. Like in your world, it's like a permanent change that's in that landscape.

00;26;54;10 - 00;26;57;15
Alessio
You can you go down into the crater or is it like walled.

00;26;57;15 - 00;27;04;18
Lilliana
Off that I don't remember, I'm not sure. I, I also could be like, it's been literally like I haven't played it since we did the covered. So like I.

00;27;04;18 - 00;27;28;03
Alessio
Haven't played it since I beat it in like 2020 or late 2019 or whatever. But yeah, I'm excited to, getting a little ahead of ourselves. But after Metal Gear Solid Delta coverage, that will be the next thing we do is we're going to remaster our Death Stranding coverage. I guess not really remaster because there's a built in excuse, which is we didn't play director's cut, so.

00;27;28;03 - 00;27;42;03
Lilliana
Yeah. So it's like some new experiences. Covers, director's cut. Alessio wasn't on this season at all. Obviously he was on he was on this version of the Death Stranding one season episode. But that was that was it. So.

00;27;42;05 - 00;27;55;07
James
So this will be like the true director's cut. It does feel very like also in line with the video game industry. Like, hey, this thing we did five years ago, remasters coming out right now. Yeah, we already got it for you, right? Yeah.

00;27;55;10 - 00;28;00;19
Alessio
I am a little nervous about going into the director's cut because, like, everything that I saw about it was like.

00;28;00;21 - 00;28;02;16
James
What? Like Metal Gear Solid five?

00;28;02;18 - 00;28;07;04
Alessio
Yeah, it was like that. It's also like, let's make a bunch of shit to make everything easier.

00;28;07;06 - 00;28;17;05
Lilliana
Well, there's like a whole, like, box inside of a warehouse, like the inside of a cardboard box, like, it's literally just they just made like, yeah, here's your obligatory Metal Gear section.

00;28;17;05 - 00;28;25;27
Alessio
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the big thing is like, there's like fucking catapults and all kinds of shit that like, essentially trivializes the, the terrain.

00;28;26;02 - 00;28;26;17
James
Oh yeah.

00;28;26;20 - 00;28;30;27
Alessio
Yeah, yeah. And I'm just like, man. But I don't know, maybe it'll be fun.

00;28;30;29 - 00;28;54;07
Lilliana
Human trebuchet. Yeah. Why not I it's interesting I and I don't think it's necessary. It's wrong for for the record I don't think it's wrong for him for like the man who created a thing to love his creation and like, miss his creation. I think he really misses Metal Gear in a weird, like, fucked up way because he posts about it a lot on the anniversaries and in interviews.

00;28;54;07 - 00;29;16;21
Lilliana
He like mentions it a bunch, like he the the Game Informer interview that he did. He talked about how like with stuff like Death Stranding one, it's not necessarily a him maybe even having his own farts, right? But, with stuff like Death Stranding, one, it's maybe something that's not necessarily appreciated until like ten years later, and then people go back and like, oh, this was great.

00;29;16;23 - 00;29;35;02
Lilliana
And he brings up metal gear, and he's like, people didn't think Metal Gear was a good game for like 15 years or something like that, like the original Metal Gear. So it's like he's specifically like bringing up metal gear. And I think he probably I feel like this is me projecting and like, assuming I don't know, I don't know the man, but like, I feel like he sees Delta coming.

00;29;35;02 - 00;29;44;15
Lilliana
He sees all this stuff and he sees Konami carrying on with his baby and he just like misses it, I think. And so, I don't know, he just he's just been bringing it up a lot and it's interesting.

00;29;44;17 - 00;29;47;18
Alessio
Yeah. That's Yeah, that is super interesting.

00;29;47;19 - 00;29;52;07
James
Strange position to be in for sure. Like watching it from afar.

00;29;52;09 - 00;30;14;08
Lilliana
And like and like the whole the shit with fucking, Neil with, like, he puts on the, he puts on the bandana and shit like it's. Oh right. He really he want he like have this like covert ops like bandana man. Yeah. Rough bandana man. And it's like, man, there's something happening here. He really is like, projecting a little bit like these things.

00;30;14;10 - 00;30;15;14
Lilliana
He likes his things.

00;30;15;21 - 00;30;24;11
Alessio
I would be curious to know if there have been any shakeups in the executives, at Konami over the last ten years.

00;30;24;13 - 00;30;34;09
James
Yeah, because he kind of figure, like, enough time will pass eventually that perhaps, you know, we get a, a metal Gear Solid, Kojima's version, you know.

00;30;34;12 - 00;30;35;13
Lilliana
Right. Right.

00;30;35;15 - 00;30;41;06
Alessio
Taylor's version will seguinte right. Is supposed to be there, not cig in. What is it?

00;30;41;07 - 00;30;42;22
Lilliana
Physic physical.

00;30;42;24 - 00;30;44;00
James
Oh, right. Yeah.

00;30;44;00 - 00;30;48;25
Lilliana
Another one is a stealth tactical espionage game he's making within the next, apparently 5 or 6 years.

00;30;48;28 - 00;31;02;17
Alessio
One, I don't know if it's. I don't know if it's just second hand or what, but like, I'm pretty sure some of the, like, straight up primary source stuff for it isn't as straight up called it like a metal gear esq thing.

00;31;02;19 - 00;31;15;00
Lilliana
Yeah. I mean, I mean literally like when it got announced, it was described as tactical espionage action. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I could be again, I could be misremembering, but I like the I, I feel like that's true.

00;31;15;02 - 00;31;19;19
James
Well, if he created the genre, if T-Pain wants to use Auto-Tune, you got a lot of you.

00;31;19;21 - 00;31;21;06
Lilliana
Got to let T playing beat T-Pain.

00;31;21;06 - 00;31;22;15
James
He's like.

00;31;22;18 - 00;31;25;01
Lilliana
Let's let the painters paint.

00;31;25;03 - 00;31;25;18
James
Right?

00;31;25;24 - 00;31;28;24
Lilliana
God damn it. Right.

00;31;28;26 - 00;31;38;24
Alessio
This episode of Metal Gear Mondays is brought to you by Fab Filters, proxy compression tool that I'm going to be using all over Lily on his audio.

00;31;38;27 - 00;31;44;10
Lilliana
I'm loud. Listen, I'm loud and I take up space I.

00;31;44;10 - 00;31;44;16
Alessio
Like.

00;31;44;20 - 00;31;47;16
Lilliana
Like this is my right as a woman guy. You just.

00;31;47;18 - 00;31;50;16
Alessio
You just say, listen, and then just dead silence.

00;31;50;18 - 00;31;52;23
James
Okay? But, yeah.

00;31;52;26 - 00;31;55;03
Lilliana
You got to make them hang on your every word, you know?

00;31;55;03 - 00;32;01;07
Alessio
That's right. Listen, this goes out to all the peas. I'm going to pop this peas.

00;32;01;12 - 00;32;05;29
Lilliana
This is this goes out to all the peas. I'm going to pop in the TS. I'm going to top, am I right?

00;32;05;29 - 00;32;12;23
James
Yeah. Give me one of these here. Bam! Let's go. I will.

00;32;12;23 - 00;32;36;08
Alessio
Say to spin it to a positive. And I don't know about you guys. I will say that it has been a minute since I have played any Kojima game. I am kind of excited for the very specific style of, like, tongue in cheek. Yeah, sort of humorous. Non-serious. Like for somebody who seems to take themselves very seriously.

00;32;36;14 - 00;32;38;05
Lilliana
Yeah. He does a lot of like when.

00;32;38;05 - 00;32;41;00
Alessio
Kojima is not serious. I think he's my favorite.

00;32;41;03 - 00;32;42;03
James
Totally. Yeah.

00;32;42;06 - 00;32;44;11
Alessio
He's the guy I want to have a good time.

00;32;44;13 - 00;32;49;15
James
Yeah, yeah. Very cheeky.

00;32;49;17 - 00;32;58;12
Lilliana
I have been and I will I will not say if the two of you decide you just don't want to hear it, but I have been hinting.

00;32;58;19 - 00;33;02;11
Alessio
Hello. Are you going to say it? And then we can determine if we.

00;33;02;13 - 00;33;11;27
Lilliana
Yeah. Yeah. Well, though I've been hinting to both of you speaking of Dom, and I've been hinting to both of you that I heard a little tidbit about how Dollman keeps clean.

00;33;11;29 - 00;33;16;13
Alessio
I don't want to know about a little tidbit about Doll Man.

00;33;16;15 - 00;33;29;22
James
Let's get out of here. I'm like, I've said it once, I'll say it twice. If he's clean now, I'm going to inject that little dollop. With so many drugs, they won't be clean for a long.

00;33;29;25 - 00;33;39;26
Lilliana
He it will. I'll just. I'll just say it involves him being in a compromising location with one of the female characters.

00;33;39;29 - 00;33;43;01
James
Oh, no. Oh, no. Which which female characters.

00;33;43;02 - 00;33;44;14
Alessio
Shower with l.

00;33;44;14 - 00;33;45;13
James
Forgetting as it.

00;33;45;13 - 00;33;49;05
Lilliana
I'll know it's rainy. I'm pretty sure the pregnant one.

00;33;49;07 - 00;33;53;01
Alessio
Wait a minute. Is the pregnant one pregnant with Doll Man's child?

00;33;53;03 - 00;33;55;23
James
Yes. Okay.

00;33;55;25 - 00;33;57;16
Lilliana
It's just a box. We gotta go.

00;33;57;20 - 00;33;58;08
James
Yeah.

00;33;58;11 - 00;34;06;13
Alessio
I will say this friend for any 90s kids in the chat, doll man is so fucking goosebumps coated, it's not even.

00;34;06;15 - 00;34;07;18
Lilliana
Very Slappy the doll.

00;34;07;18 - 00;34;19;16
James
Hey, I didn't see the original trailer. I just saw, like, a picture and a headline, and I was like, that can't be a real image for me. Weird goose bumps, crossovers. It's so crazy.

00;34;19;21 - 00;34;31;10
Alessio
Wait a minute. What if. What if Rainie gives birth to Doll Man? Beyonce could dream of forcing you to see it.

00;34;31;13 - 00;34;33;25
James
If anybody were to do it, it would be.

00;34;33;27 - 00;34;52;27
Lilliana
It would be because you I it's wild that like in a in a from everything we've personally seen so far, there's been all kinds of weird shit, crazy shit, potentially uncomfortable shit. Oh, damn. It doesn't get worse than Doll Man.

00;34;53;04 - 00;34;53;22
James
No.

00;34;53;24 - 00;35;00;06
Alessio
I agree, I will take, the shit grenades, the piss bombs, whatever was in your blood.

00;35;00;06 - 00;35;01;28
Lilliana
The blood vile.

00;35;01;28 - 00;35;13;24
James
The blood boomerang grenade. Yeah, that was one thing I forgot as I was, like, watching that gameplay reveal. I was like, oh, yeah. All the weapons are, like, high weirdness for some reason. It's why?

00;35;14;01 - 00;35;23;24
Alessio
Yeah, Sam is selling his, bathwater on the, Whatever. What is it called? The the network?

00;35;23;26 - 00;35;25;21
James
But I like the network.

00;35;25;21 - 00;35;28;07
Alessio
Oh, what is it? Chimera net. What is it?

00;35;28;08 - 00;35;31;13
James
Chiral neural network. Right. All right.

00;35;31;20 - 00;35;34;20
Lilliana
Porter boy. Bathwater.

00;35;34;23 - 00;35;49;19
James
I'm, Yes, please, I love that I'm excited for, another round of cameos, like. Oh, yeah, man. Yeah. What people we will see. Well, he he like.

00;35;49;21 - 00;35;53;03
Lilliana
He posts fucking pictures with people on the rainstorm.

00;35;53;06 - 00;35;53;28
Alessio
Yeah. It's like.

00;35;54;01 - 00;35;54;21
Lilliana
Like with.

00;35;54;25 - 00;35;57;09
James
Carolyn Caroline polished like every other week, like. Yeah.

00;35;57;09 - 00;35;59;25
Lilliana
Timothy. Shalom. He's posting pictures with. He's on.

00;35;59;25 - 00;36;00;12
Alessio
You imagine.

00;36;00;20 - 00;36;02;19
Lilliana
Khaled with Jordan Peele.

00;36;02;22 - 00;36;03;17
James
Yeah.

00;36;03;20 - 00;36;10;26
Alessio
Yeah. I've never correct me if I'm wrong. I have yet to see a fucking picture of Jordan Peele and Hideo Kojima in the same place.

00;36;10;28 - 00;36;11;17
James
Right?

00;36;11;20 - 00;36;22;07
Lilliana
Like, well, they were on stage together. Oh. Where they. Yeah. Okay. It was like a whole thing where he's like, I'm my new game. Khaled featuring. And then they started playing the. Yeah the remix of five on it from

00;36;22;10 - 00;36;23;29
Alessio
Yeah.

00;36;24;01 - 00;36;29;20
Lilliana
And then he came, came out and it was like a big fucking deal. There's a picture of them together in like, a room somewhere as well.

00;36;29;23 - 00;36;31;01
Alessio
Just a random room.

00;36;31;03 - 00;36;45;17
Lilliana
Just a room, you know, on a couch. I'm just looking at his Instagram to see, like, some stuff, see if I can find some potential cameos. There's, Phil Spencer, Xbox. Phil Spencer. He got me.

00;36;45;18 - 00;36;47;06
Alessio
I'm okay with that one. Not being.

00;36;47;09 - 00;36;51;07
James
That's a bad game. Oh, shit. He doesn't deserve that.

00;36;51;09 - 00;36;54;11
Lilliana
I mean, Jeff Kelly, we got to get another Jeff Kelly cameo.

00;36;54;14 - 00;36;56;06
Alessio
Oh, yeah, I forgot Jeff was in the first. We.

00;36;56;06 - 00;36;58;16
James
Can be done with Jeff.

00;36;58;19 - 00;37;04;05
Lilliana
We can leave Jeff in 2024 if we want to share.

00;37;04;07 - 00;37;05;03
James
This.

00;37;05;06 - 00;37;10;24
Lilliana
He's got a picture with. Oh. You can't see that on the fucking camera, you crazy Schaffer? Yeah.

00;37;10;26 - 00;37;14;22
James
Oh. You know. Yeah, he could, because you, That's how.

00;37;14;24 - 00;37;16;09
Alessio
It. Yeah.

00;37;16;11 - 00;37;27;29
Lilliana
Listen. Now listen. I can say this because. Yeah, Kojima is a fucking chaser.

00;37;28;01 - 00;37;30;22
Alessio
Doesn't go to him. I have, like, two kids in a way.

00;37;30;24 - 00;37;33;08
Lilliana
That doesn't mean shit. It's okay.

00;37;33;09 - 00;37;37;08
James
What is it? That's fair. Yeah.

00;37;37;14 - 00;37;39;22
Lilliana
He at least he at least has a wife. We know that.

00;37;39;23 - 00;37;43;04
Alessio
No, I know he talks about having two sons, like.

00;37;43;07 - 00;37;44;00
James
Yeah.

00;37;44;02 - 00;37;48;08
Alessio
Interview. Yeah. He said he said something about watching movies with his two sons.

00;37;48;10 - 00;37;48;29
James
Wow.

00;37;49;05 - 00;37;53;28
Alessio
Which I did not clock until, like, a week ago.

00;37;54;00 - 00;38;00;05
James
That's so interesting to imagine being raised by a kid. Yeah.

00;38;00;06 - 00;38;01;08
Lilliana
Barely keeps it from.

00;38;01;11 - 00;38;15;11
Alessio
Keeps it pretty private. But, yeah, he's a father of two children. Also, there's that fucking amazing meme. I hope you guys have seen it before. Where it's, Kojima and the woman posing with the baby. That has made its way onto, like, conservative newspapers.

00;38;15;11 - 00;38;16;21
Lilliana
Oh, yeah? Yeah.

00;38;16;24 - 00;38;19;26
Alessio
High up liberals celebrating their aborted baby.

00;38;20;01 - 00;38;24;08
James
Yeah, yeah. That was. Speaking of.

00;38;24;13 - 00;38;32;11
Lilliana
The pic, there's a picture really quick. There's a picture of him. Yeah, yeah. On Don fucking Lee. That'd be fucking sick of Donald. He was in Death Stranding.

00;38;32;13 - 00;38;48;13
Alessio
Yeah. What? What is you guys is, In a perfect world, it could be anybody living or dead. Who would you want in the scanner? Having their feet meticulously mapped by Kojima's goon squad.

00;38;48;15 - 00;39;06;10
Lilliana
Do you want to see the weirdest. Hear the weirdest fucking thing about that question? I was scrolling his Instagram page and I was like, you know, it'd be fun if Elijah Wood was in Death Stranding. Yeah. And literally just as I thought that thought. Two scrolls later, there's a picture of him with Elijah Wood on it.

00;39;06;12 - 00;39;14;16
James
Okay. That's incredible then. Very weird. I want ripped J.K. Simmons. Yes.

00;39;14;18 - 00;39;17;10
Lilliana
I thought you were about to say Rip Torn.

00;39;17;13 - 00;39;19;19
James
Yeah. And also were torn and.

00;39;19;19 - 00;39;20;20
Lilliana
Also Rip Torn.

00;39;20;21 - 00;39;22;18
James
They're available. Yeah, I'm in there.

00;39;22;26 - 00;39;26;10
Alessio
I currently would be a good would be a good like.

00;39;26;10 - 00;39;26;25
James
Jennifer kind.

00;39;26;26 - 00;39;35;15
Alessio
Person just to be in period as, like a cast member is Bowie. We're still alive. If Bowie was still Bowie alive, he would 1,000,000% be in this game.

00;39;35;17 - 00;39;36;10
James
Yes.

00;39;36;12 - 00;39;39;10
Lilliana
Rip torn is dead, I thought so, he died in 2019.

00;39;39;13 - 00;39;41;03
Alessio
He ripped and torn.

00;39;41;05 - 00;39;44;25
James
Which, you know, 2019. He got a cameo. Oh, I.

00;39;44;25 - 00;40;05;23
Alessio
Was thinking I was making a joke with Lilly where I was like, it'll be funny if in this interview that we're doing, I don't even know if we we were not recording when we talked about this. So I let me let this slip and then we'll talk about it. But this interview that we're doing with Jeff Leach, who plays a strange character name listed on IMDb that no one's ever fucking heard of.

00;40;05;26 - 00;40;25;10
Alessio
We were joking about. Like, we're recording it after this, even though this episode airs after that one. And so we were talking about, if he drops any weird bombshells that we're not going to address on this episode with, James and I jokingly said a thing with where I was like, quoting fictitious Jeff. And he was like, yeah, we were just all on the mocap stage.

00;40;25;10 - 00;40;30;22
Alessio
And Income's Oscar Isaac playing smoke blunt men and.

00;40;30;25 - 00;40;31;00
James
It's.

00;40;31;00 - 00;40;36;23
Alessio
Just like, I don't know, I feel like Oscar Isaac. I would be surprised if he doesn't end up in here as like a cameo or something.

00;40;36;23 - 00;40;39;01
James
Oh yeah, that would make a ton of.

00;40;39;01 - 00;40;43;23
Alessio
Sense because CG I feel like I'll say it like his stuff. Yeah. Oh, Ryan Reynolds would be a good one.

00;40;43;27 - 00;40;45;23
James
Pedro Pascal would be a fun one.

00;40;45;25 - 00;40;46;28
Lilliana
Pedro.

00;40;46;28 - 00;40;48;03
Alessio
Yeah, Pedro would be dead.

00;40;48;09 - 00;40;51;27
Lilliana
Pedro. Pedro should be in all things. Yes. Quite frankly.

00;40;52;00 - 00;40;53;12
James
Yeah, he really is. Yeah.

00;40;53;12 - 00;41;07;06
Alessio
He's like, you know, what actually would be cool is not celebrities as much, but like like, like game game characters, like game captains who would be kind of fun.

00;41;07;08 - 00;41;07;29
James
Yeah.

00;41;08;02 - 00;41;22;14
Lilliana
Let me, let me. You say game characters. Let me lay this one on you. Let me just set the stage and get your thoughts about these ones. How about Mario and Princess Beach Prince.

00;41;22;20 - 00;41;24;05
James
You say Princess Peach.

00;41;24;07 - 00;41;35;17
Alessio
Yeah. If there's if they that if that line shows back up. Like if there's anything as cringe inducing in the dialog as the Princess Beach line from death. Oh, wait.

00;41;35;17 - 00;41;36;13
James
That's a real.

00;41;36;16 - 00;41;36;28
Alessio
Yeah, that's.

00;41;36;28 - 00;41;39;01
Lilliana
A real line. That's right, I forgot.

00;41;39;03 - 00;41;40;14
Alessio
Yeah, yeah. Didn't Troy, but he's.

00;41;40;14 - 00;41;44;18
Lilliana
Going to say no. Is that it was Emily said it to say.

00;41;44;22 - 00;41;46;12
James
Oh, God. Oh.

00;41;46;14 - 00;41;51;08
Lilliana
It's like where Mario and Princess Beach?

00;41;51;11 - 00;41;52;18
James
Yeah. That was rough.

00;41;52;25 - 00;41;54;25
Lilliana
I'm sorry. This this one is going to be. I'm you.

00;41;54;25 - 00;41;55;04
Alessio
One of the.

00;41;55;04 - 00;41;57;27
James
Cameos. She gets better.

00;41;58;00 - 00;42;05;02
Lilliana
Yeah. I'm sorry. Sam, your princess is in another Cairo game.

00;42;05;05 - 00;42;17;11
Alessio
You know who'd actually be fucking great on second? Let me his name. Right. I don't know why I can ever fucking remember this actor's name. Wayne Knight fucking Wayne.

00;42;17;11 - 00;42;21;00
James
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, credit especially.

00;42;21;00 - 00;42;26;18
Alessio
Asking you for, like, a fucked up, weird delivery that you don't find out about until after you deliver it.

00;42;26;20 - 00;42;31;19
James
Yup, yup. Perfect. De Niro.

00;42;31;21 - 00;42;39;15
Lilliana
You know. Okay, hear me out on this one. This one's a real one. What about Cheech and Chong?

00;42;39;18 - 00;42;40;17
Alessio
That would be very funny.

00;42;40;19 - 00;42;53;02
Lilliana
Cheech and Chong in this fucking game movie. Like, we need you to deliver a special package, Sam. Yeah, man, we got to get you deliver. This package is real important.

00;42;53;04 - 00;42;55;01
Alessio
You very low riders, right?

00;42;55;02 - 00;43;01;23
James
That's, Larry David. Oh, my God, they're explicitly an enemy.

00;43;01;25 - 00;43;20;21
Alessio
I do want to see. So I will say this. I do want to see more things like I understand that the, like, the whole theming around the original game was like, everyone's disconnected. Everyone's like shut ins, essentially. But I want to see more things with my eyes. So like, there was a lot of, like, reading or like a character sitting at.

00;43;20;21 - 00;43;21;12
James
You.

00;43;21;14 - 00;43;50;21
Alessio
And it's like, I don't just scenarios in this world, like, you've got some fucking old man who doesn't want to die in the city because it will set off a bomb, and he's just fucking. You find an old dude running away from town like naked in the middle of the wilderness or some shit. Babylon. Yeah, insanity. Like, I just want, like, give me the, like, strangers and weirdos from Red dead and GTA and just, like, drop them into this.

00;43;50;21 - 00;43;53;18
James
Yeah. World like that would be sick.

00;43;53;20 - 00;43;55;05
Alessio
Just like these. Sort of.

00;43;55;07 - 00;43;56;13
James
I'd be all over that.

00;43;56;15 - 00;44;06;04
Alessio
On the fly kind of side quests that you stumble on would be cool, where somebody who's fucking trapped, there's like, beats all around them and they're like, freaking out in a tree or some shit.

00;44;06;04 - 00;44;08;26
James
Like, it'd be cool.

00;44;08;28 - 00;44;26;06
Lilliana
It's, Yeah, it's interesting too, because I think it would make us like the idea behind the first game is like connections and making connections. So everybody was, like, sheltered and sequestered until you connect to them now masturbating furiously. Right? Yes. Like masturbating bear, you know.

00;44;26;09 - 00;44;27;12
James
Like. Yes.

00;44;27;13 - 00;44;36;28
Lilliana
But like, sensibly, like in this one the connection has happened. So the people should be like less reclusive and more like out in the world.

00;44;37;03 - 00;44;37;29
Alessio
Right, right.

00;44;38;01 - 00;44;43;10
Lilliana
So maybe that's his excuse to go to fucking Australia. You know what I mean. Yeah.

00;44;43;10 - 00;45;11;13
Alessio
For anybody who is unaware. Yeah. And it's not just the story section either, because like that was the clip they were playing for the dynamic music presentation. I will say this, I literally and this is through like fucking YouTube H264 hyper compression fucking one megabit per second like bit rate of just Sam fast walking down the side of a fucking mountain.

00;45;11;15 - 00;45;20;07
Alessio
And like I legitimately got like roller coaster stomach drop looking at it like it was really beautiful and like it.

00;45;20;07 - 00;45;21;05
James
Was.

00;45;21;07 - 00;45;30;05
Alessio
The depth that the image was showing. It looked like insane. I was like, there's no way if this was like 2004, that would all be skybox. But it like.

00;45;30;07 - 00;45;31;29
James
All looked fucking little.

00;45;32;04 - 00;45;32;29
Alessio
It was crazy.

00;45;32;29 - 00;45;34;02
James
Very beautiful.

00;45;34;05 - 00;45;48;19
Alessio
Yeah. So I'm very excited. Fortunately, yeah. When one of Kojima's developers was like, I think was asked, has the PS5 enabled you to do anything that you normally wouldn't be able to do? And no joke, he goes, no, not really.

00;45;48;21 - 00;45;49;15
James
Yeah.

00;45;49;18 - 00;45;56;06
Alessio
He was like, it just makes everything faster. Like to sort of test and and load and blah, blah, blah.

00;45;56;08 - 00;45;57;13
Lilliana
So that's good.

00;45;57;20 - 00;46;04;09
Alessio
Yeah. Effectively he was like, I mean, it'll look nice, but it's not going to look like game changing or anything.

00;46;04;11 - 00;46;18;07
Lilliana
But but yeah, just as like, just like a thing. It's the idea here is that like the game, like a good chunk of the game we don't know much about? Like if it's the back half to but like a good chunk of the game takes place in Australia. That's, interesting.

00;46;18;09 - 00;46;20;16
Alessio
Feels like a Damon Lindelof pull.

00;46;20;18 - 00;46;28;13
Lilliana
Yeah. You get there somehow. You start the game in Mexico. What if we have to go back.

00;46;28;15 - 00;46;29;09
Alessio
From Mexico.

00;46;29;09 - 00;46;30;14
Lilliana
All the way to Mexico?

00;46;30;16 - 00;46;31;01
James
Yeah.

00;46;31;03 - 00;46;35;22
Lilliana
Well, I assure you, sir, that is, quite impossible.

00;46;35;24 - 00;46;36;19
James
You just take.

00;46;36;21 - 00;46;40;28
Lilliana
It all the way from Mexico to Australia and in real time. In real time. Wait for it.

00;46;41;01 - 00;46;44;02
Alessio
Yeah. That's why the game's, like 56 hours long.

00;46;44;04 - 00;46;49;22
Lilliana
Yeah, it's all just the zip line to Australia. Jesus. It's really a ten hour experience if you remove that.

00;46;49;24 - 00;47;08;28
Alessio
Yeah. In this world, though, I do wonder, I don't know. I mean, I was gonna say the world was crazy. Death stranding one. But now we've also had like spoiler for people who play Death Stranding one. But it's like this fucking extinction event was, subverted. How could I not fucking tell you? I don't even I don't even know if there are memories in my brain.

00;47;08;28 - 00;47;09;28
James
For what? Yeah.

00;47;09;29 - 00;47;29;12
Alessio
Happened. But, but, yeah, there's, like an extinction level event. There's all this other shit. Gigantic beats, like, I don't know, parts of the ocean could be drained. Like, there could be some weird shit going on. Maybe you can walk on water in Death Stranding. World. But. Yeah. Jesus.

00;47;29;14 - 00;47;43;03
James
Yes. That's really the connection with Damien the actor. Yeah, yeah, just bringing it all together now. That's. Yeah. That's nice. Yes. God.

00;47;43;06 - 00;47;47;21
Alessio
Yeah. James, what you got? What's been cooking in your noggin over these last few weeks?

00;47;47;23 - 00;48;08;27
James
As far as what I'm excited about, I actually am surprisingly excited to see how they try to stick the landing of the narrative. Because what could we be doing? I'm also excited mechanically for the, the base. Okay. Like that. They've got a little like yeah operations that they're going to be use.

00;48;08;29 - 00;48;12;09
Alessio
Of the Kojima was like I can't, I can't stay away from other base, I.

00;48;12;09 - 00;48;17;11
James
Can't see it from another base. That's how it felt. Yeah. I'm like yeah, I'm ready to return to another base. Sure.

00;48;17;13 - 00;48;19;18
Alessio
I love a good hub. I like I love a good like.

00;48;19;25 - 00;48;24;05
Lilliana
I love a hub world. I'm, I love a world I read.

00;48;24;08 - 00;48;39;01
James
I really enjoyed that they gave enough airtime to the fact that you can turn the hat around to wear the hat backwards. Yeah. Yeah, I think very key feature. I think it'd be a zero for me if they hadn't implemented that one. Yeah, yeah.

00;48;39;04 - 00;48;42;25
Alessio
I need crazy to.

00;48;42;28 - 00;48;43;25
Lilliana
Go ahead, gents.

00;48;43;27 - 00;48;54;22
James
I'm excited for, actually, I'm excited for the setting. I think it looks really beautiful. Yeah, I had to walk around and fucking fall down and roll down a hill and whatnot, like, just fun.

00;48;54;24 - 00;49;00;18
Lilliana
You know? I'm excited to tussle, but, you know, do you experience the earth? Get my toes in the sand.

00;49;00;18 - 00;49;01;15
James
You know,

00;49;01;17 - 00;49;13;25
Alessio
I love that Sam has, like, some difficulty with, like, navigating the terrain and stuff, but it never, ever felt like a newborn learning how to walk, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like there's such a, What is the name of that game where you're, like, a track and field person?

00;49;13;28 - 00;49;17;10
James
Oh, yeah. I feel like.

00;49;17;12 - 00;49;27;14
Alessio
If you're pitching Death Stranding on paper, I feel like that's kind of the thing where people would start to imagine, like, oh, is it going to be like a physics based puzzle thing?

00;49;27;17 - 00;49;28;12
James
Yeah.

00;49;28;15 - 00;49;44;23
Lilliana
But yeah, there was there was a thing and there was a feature in Death Stranding, one that I did not know about and realized until after I had already beaten it, because obviously, like part of it is like stacking your stuff in a way that you balance. You don't have to, you know, keep it, keep it as even as possible.

00;49;44;26 - 00;50;07;18
Lilliana
But a lot of it, like you have to hold down the triggers a lot and like keep yourself balanced on the screen where you're stacking the stuff. There is a little circle underneath. Sam that veers off to the left and right to show you if you're like, you're like two side heavy. And the idea is you want to have that circle centered completely underneath him.

00;50;07;21 - 00;50;27;08
Lilliana
And that's about that's his most balance. And I had no fucking idea. So I'm fucking listening back and forth, walking across fucking tundra, trying not to die, holding down the triggers, trying not to fucking fall over. And it was because, like my circle was, I try to auto stack and my circle was like, fucking yeah, yeah, yeah, right over here.

00;50;27;10 - 00;50;30;14
Lilliana
So I'm going to be paying attention to that a little bit more.

00;50;30;17 - 00;50;37;18
Alessio
Yeah. I'll be curious to see like what UI and menu segments there are. Yeah. Cause I don't know if.

00;50;37;18 - 00;50;39;06
James
There's like a scale tree now.

00;50;39;08 - 00;50;40;04
Alessio
Like, is there really?

00;50;40;04 - 00;50;47;14
James
Which I think so. Which again, like, kind of like, makes me nervous. I'm like, you're adding a lot of, like video gamey things into this. Yeah.

00;50;47;14 - 00;50;50;10
Alessio
What are you doing? Is there going to be a fucking HUD because.

00;50;50;13 - 00;50;52;13
James
Please don't like.

00;50;52;16 - 00;50;53;23
Alessio
Like I like I like the.

00;50;53;24 - 00;50;57;04
Lilliana
Minimalism is part of the reason why it's like.

00;50;57;06 - 00;50;57;26
James
Yeah.

00;50;57;29 - 00;51;14;24
Alessio
Yeah. I'm not going to lie. I think out of every single game that I've ever played, I feel like Death Stranding did a really good job of capturing like catcher capturing, like the verisimilitude of, like, going for a real ass hike. Yeah, like there were definitely moments where I was like, I feel like I can feel the wind on my skin.

00;51;14;26 - 00;51;17;27
Alessio
I'm like, this feels good.

00;51;17;29 - 00;51;24;28
James
But 100%, 100% in like, the, like the weather effects.

00;51;25;01 - 00;51;29;02
Alessio
Oh. I guess there's real time. Real time. Night and day is what I was in, and that's.

00;51;29;06 - 00;51;38;13
James
Oh, okay. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Well, I'm like all the, the natural disasters that they keep talking about, like the earthquakes and the wildfires.

00;51;38;15 - 00;51;39;02
Alessio
Interesting.

00;51;39;06 - 00;51;44;05
James
Yeah. Reshape the terrain as you walk.

00;51;44;08 - 00;51;58;07
Lilliana
Yeah. Something that I am excited about, tentatively. Is this, like Magellan, man shit and whatever these, like, kaiju fights are going to. Yeah. What is happening? Yeah. Fucking met the on type bullshit with with the Metal Gear.

00;51;58;07 - 00;51;58;22
Alessio
Right.

00;51;58;24 - 00;52;00;03
Lilliana
The Metal Gear Rex head.

00;52;00;05 - 00;52;00;21
James
Yeah.

00;52;00;21 - 00;52;03;23
Lilliana
I really, really want to know what the fuck that's about. That's crazy.

00;52;03;23 - 00;52;04;16
James
Yeah, yeah.

00;52;04;17 - 00;52;15;19
Lilliana
It's really, really cool, quite frankly. And it's probably going to be dumb as fuck. But sometimes the dumb as fuck shit and a cog in the game is like, the best thing in the game. Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, pretty stoked about that.

00;52;15;26 - 00;52;23;17
Alessio
Speaking of which is going to be like a week and a half old at this point, but, do you guys see the stuff on the Metal Gear Solid Delta, multiplayer mode?

00;52;23;17 - 00;52;25;02
Lilliana
Yeah. The fuck's the focus?

00;52;25;06 - 00;52;26;16
James
And catch the what is it?

00;52;26;18 - 00;52;29;28
Alessio
Yeah. It's like hide and seek, essentially. Oh hell yeah. Which, like.

00;52;29;29 - 00;52;31;24
Lilliana
It's like MgO but not.

00;52;31;27 - 00;52;37;29
Alessio
Yeah. Bummer. That's not Metal Gear Online. But it looks like it's literally just like, hide and seek, like, for real.

00;52;38;01 - 00;52;39;22
James
Okay.

00;52;39;24 - 00;52;59;01
Alessio
Which is fine. Like, I was kind of hoping it'd be, there was a mode, a camera, what it was called. There was a mode in MGA where one team had non-lethal weapons, and the other team had like, arcs and shit. And so it like forced one team to, like, be super sneaky, and then the other team would just be like running around and school being crazy.

00;52;59;03 - 00;53;05;18
Alessio
And I wish they would have done something like that. Yeah, I love a good, like, asymmetrical.

00;53;05;22 - 00;53;06;21
James
Multiplayer.

00;53;06;23 - 00;53;07;21
Alessio
Like fucking.

00;53;07;23 - 00;53;10;18
James
So it'd be fun. I love those, yeah.

00;53;10;25 - 00;53;23;00
Lilliana
Like prop hunt, like Garry's Mod. Oh, yeah. Call of duty prop hunt. And it kind of feels like that a little bit. And so I'm really excited to kind of get into it and kind of see how it, how it works and functions.

00;53;23;00 - 00;53;40;02
Alessio
So yeah, the reasoning behind it, I thought it was kind of silly though, like one of the developers was like the changing landscape of multiplayer gaming is why we came up with a different mode. And I'm like, you trying to tell me right here, right now that people wouldn't play like capture the flag, right? Metal Gear Online, are you insane?

00;53;40;04 - 00;53;42;27
Lilliana
People are playing that like all the time.

00;53;43;00 - 00;53;45;08
Alessio
Yeah, people are still people have fans.

00;53;45;10 - 00;53;47;01
Lilliana
Counter-Strike a private sector.

00;53;47;05 - 00;53;48;25
Alessio
You fucking MgO. I'm pretty.

00;53;48;25 - 00;53;49;10
James
Sure thousand.

00;53;49;10 - 00;53;57;01
Lilliana
Percent Counter-Strike is still huge. Call of duty still huge. All these games just like it would. It would whip. Yeah. Yes.

00;53;57;03 - 00;54;10;29
Alessio
Yeah straight up there is better gear online MgO to PyCon. There is literally PS3 and windows. How to set up and run Metal Gear Online on MGS for private server going on right.

00;54;10;29 - 00;54;11;16
James
Yeah.

00;54;11;18 - 00;54;17;06
Lilliana
Well and as as you know also the game that originated MgO, Metal Gear Solid four.

00;54;17;14 - 00;54;18;01
Alessio
Oh yes.

00;54;18;01 - 00;54;19;24
Lilliana
As you know.

00;54;19;27 - 00;54;23;27
Alessio
There are literally 160 people playing online right now, right?

00;54;23;27 - 00;54;27;28
James
That's great. That's insane. I bet they're having the time of their life.

00;54;28;00 - 00;54;33;27
Lilliana
That was that was a I bet they are too. It's like those 300 people playing fucking. What was it Phantasy Star that you showed me that.

00;54;33;28 - 00;54;35;08
James
Oh yeah. Yeah.

00;54;35;09 - 00;54;40;06
Lilliana
They are fucking living life right now playing Phantasy Star Online.

00;54;40;09 - 00;54;45;01
Alessio
I'm gonna legit look into how I can do this going on my.

00;54;45;04 - 00;54;48;06
James
To be on the server. No time. Oh yeah.

00;54;48;08 - 00;54;57;02
Lilliana
That was a joke, by the way, when I said the IGN article posting about Fox hunt talked about MgO and they said like the first MgO game was MGS for which is not true.

00;54;57;04 - 00;55;09;15
Alessio
Yeah, at all. Like even remotely. It's fucking dumb. Anyway. Yeah, there's a whole guide here. I can totally use my custom firmware PS3. I'm sorry. We're gonna let's, There'll be a future episode on that.

00;55;09;17 - 00;55;10;01
James
Yeah, we.

00;55;10;02 - 00;55;25;08
Lilliana
Talked about MgO, and I think the other thing, too, is like, I don't want to, like, over promise anything like that, but, like, when we cover Delta, we're going to play Fox on it, 100%. And it would be neat potentially to play Fox Hunt with some listeners if we swing.

00;55;25;09 - 00;55;39;22
Alessio
Yeah. We could set up maybe like a, like a Saturday event. Yeah. Or something. I wish that modern games allowed you to make private servers like they used to. The 2000 range would be cool to have a metal Gear Mondays official server.

00;55;39;28 - 00;55;41;05
James
That would be sick.

00;55;41;08 - 00;55;59;11
Alessio
But anyway, yeah, I guess outside of that, we should talk a little bit. I know we talked a little bit upfront about the sort of scheduling. So, yeah, that Jeff Leach interview. I totally didn't say what it was. On IMDb, he's listed as fucking voicing a character named Pierre or Southern.

00;55;59;14 - 00;56;00;11
James
Yeah.

00;56;00;13 - 00;56;11;25
Alessio
No clue. Literally comes up nowhere, online. So, I'll be curious to see this. You'll have heard it already, but maybe he was a side quest on PC.

00;56;12;00 - 00;56;14;03
James
Who knows?

00;56;14;05 - 00;56;29;26
Alessio
But anyway, so we're doing that. That's going to release last Monday, this Monday. Currently, you're listening to this, game comes out in 24 hours. So for people who have the deluxe. So happy, Happy Stranding to you all, and also with the rest.

00;56;29;26 - 00;56;30;29
James
Of you, and.

00;56;30;29 - 00;56;33;14
Lilliana
Also. Yeah. And with your spirit. Thank you.

00;56;33;18 - 00;56;46;24
Alessio
But but we're all going to we've all pre-purchased the deluxe. I hate incentivizing shitty behavior, but we have paid, Kojima Productions money to play.

00;56;46;24 - 00;57;00;09
Lilliana
They're gonna. Listen. We're doing this for you. Because if we didn't do this fucking show, I would not have done that. Yeah, correct. I would have just fucking waited. Yeah, but we have. But we're professionals.

00;57;00;09 - 00;57;01;02
James
Yeah, yeah.

00;57;01;04 - 00;57;02;23
Lilliana
And so we have to play the video.

00;57;02;23 - 00;57;03;24
James
We had to do it.

00;57;03;26 - 00;57;08;25
Lilliana
Yeah. We we have to gaming. I was looking.

00;57;08;27 - 00;57;12;28
Alessio
At the mouth with no clothes on and like, chips all around me. Night of.

00;57;13;00 - 00;57;16;07
James
We have to do it. I had to do. We must gaming.

00;57;16;07 - 00;57;16;25
Lilliana
We must.

00;57;16;25 - 00;57;18;16
James
Gaming. But.

00;57;18;16 - 00;57;28;08
Alessio
Anyway so we're doing that. So, day of release itself. So, three days from now, you will be receiving the first impressions episode. Yeah. That.

00;57;28;08 - 00;57;43;28
Lilliana
Will be not like. Yeah, not like, we're not going to be covering, like, specific parts. We're just going to kind of like, talk for a little bit about, like, how does the game feel and what are we did one of these for Death Stranding one as well. But like how does it feel and how are like have our expectations changed.

00;57;43;28 - 00;57;46;14
Lilliana
So far like things like that. So yeah. So that's going to be coming.

00;57;46;14 - 00;57;47;03
Alessio
Generalities.

00;57;47;10 - 00;57;47;21
Lilliana
To.

00;57;47;21 - 00;58;09;06
Alessio
Yeah generally like how does it play. What are the systems. But like very light. Like we're not we're going to save that stuff for the main show. But anyway after that, as you guys have hopefully been tipped off, every week we'll be putting out episodes for this season. So in order to hopefully we're not fucking ourselves into racing like we did the first game.

00;58;09;08 - 00;58;30;25
Alessio
But, in order to get it done before Delta, literally, it has to be every week, like that is the only way. So we're doing that, but we are trying to pass it out. I think on average, based on the like estimates, it comes out to like five hours of game a week that we have to play essentially.

00;58;30;27 - 00;58;31;15
Alessio
But yeah, so.

00;58;31;15 - 00;58;34;20
Lilliana
Pretty reasonable, I think. I think, yeah, we can pace ourselves pretty. Yeah.

00;58;34;20 - 00;58;44;24
Alessio
For sure. Yeah. I think even if you work 40 hours and have a kid, I feel like five hours a week is it's like an hour a day in the evening before bed or something. But,

00;58;44;26 - 00;59;05;19
Lilliana
And then part of that too is we have at least one interview that we're going to be doing after release comes out. And we will attempt to get more like, we're not going to just give up and stuff. We're going to attempt to get some more interviews, but those will be midweek drops. So we're not going to like, burn a week on an interview, like you'll get two episodes that week if we have an interview.

00;59;05;20 - 00;59;14;13
Alessio
So yeah, yeah, yeah. Also another good benefit to being a Patreon, super supporter because, we had an awesome video component to the Deborah Wilson interview.

00;59;14;16 - 00;59;37;25
Lilliana
Yeah. But it really if you listen to the Deborah Wilson interview and you're like, wow, this was really intense and cool, the fucking video is crazier. There was a part in the Deborah Wilson interview where she got her dog and started like, I like doing the barking noises and to watch that and to witness that unfold with your eyes is fucking crazy.

00;59;37;27 - 00;59;39;25
Lilliana
Yeah. So I that.

00;59;39;26 - 00;59;40;26
Alessio
Is. Which was cool.

00;59;40;26 - 01;00;06;12
Lilliana
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Here's something that I do want to say for, for the people who are potentially thinking about patronizing the Patreon, something that Patreon does is that and I think this is to make sure that the creators have consistent cash flow, they charge you for your patronage on the first of the month every month, but they also charge you the day that you.

01;00;06;15 - 01;00;06;26
James
Subscribe.

01;00;06;26 - 01;00;32;21
Lilliana
Oh, right. Okay. So we get the money the same time regardless. So if you are thinking about subscribing to the Patreon, I would say wait until like the the first of the month or around the first of the month because you won't get double charged that way, not before. So if it's like, the 30th of June and you subscribe on the 30th of June, you're going to get charged again on the first of, on the 1st of July.

01;00;32;27 - 01;00;47;13
Lilliana
So just first of the month or like in the two days following 2 or 3 days following, that's going to be the best time to subscribe to the Patreon. Yeah, that's a pro tip. That's something I'm happy to give away because like we get the money at the same time regardless. So. Right, right, right. Do with that what you will.

01;00;47;20 - 01;01;06;06
Alessio
And the money is going to a good place, right? It's like it's not just obviously at this point. It's like I think the overhead just to be very transparent, the overhead for the show, if you don't include like editing tools that I'm using for other shit anyway, is really like 40 bucks a month or something. It's like various hosting things and whatever.

01;01;06;09 - 01;01;18;15
Alessio
And so Alyssa, anything outside of that, is mostly just going into a piggy bank that we're going to use for like travel expenses to go to panels and stuff if we have to. And the convention is not covering it.

01;01;18;17 - 01;01;19;08
Lilliana
Or like.

01;01;19;08 - 01;01;19;20
Alessio


01;01;19;20 - 01;01;24;04
Lilliana
Like, yeah, if we need to play a game, buying the game for the crew to play the game. Yeah.

01;01;24;04 - 01;01;48;24
Alessio
So, but yeah. So anyway, all that stuff helps, and, but. Yeah. So long story short, if anybody at any point, if you're a listener who's listening right now and you have your uncle who works at Nintendo, showed you all the chapters breakdown for Death Stranding two. We still have yet to fully sit down and flesh out, like, a proper schedule.

01;01;48;24 - 01;02;16;29
Alessio
As far as, like, what is being covered in every episode. But because a lot of people, it has come to my attention that a lot of people use our show like a legitimate listening buddy, kind of a thing. We are going to try to not spoil stuff, and we're going to try to cover it in like, actual sort of chronological order and just keep it like, okay, if we're covering chapter one, two and three of this episode, I'm not going to talk about chapter four by accident kind of thing.

01;02;17;02 - 01;02;29;18
Alessio
So anyway, we will reveal that as we go, hopefully by the time we're in the General Impressions episode, we can somebody will have posted online how many chapters there are or something. I think the first game had 16 chapters, I believe.

01;02;29;18 - 01;02;31;19
James
Like that. Yeah, it feels right now.

01;02;31;21 - 01;02;34;20
Alessio
But anyway, James, you're going to be with us for all of it, right?

01;02;34;20 - 01;02;35;22
James
Well, I'm pumped.

01;02;35;22 - 01;02;37;08
Alessio
That James is.

01;02;37;10 - 01;02;38;15
James
I'll be stranded.

01;02;38;17 - 01;02;42;28
Alessio
Hurricane is staying nasty and James is. Oh yeah. Right. And dirty.

01;02;43;03 - 01;02;44;24
James
Nasty.

01;02;44;26 - 01;03;08;01
Lilliana
But yeah. So if you if you, if you'd like to support the Patreon, you can go to Patreon.com, Metal Gear Mondays. They'll kind of take you to the page for, a dollar a month. You get access to the discord where we're talking. We've got a bunch of listeners that are in there chopping it up and being menaces listeners like Skyler Blackwell, who again, I'm going to strangle to death, death strangling.

01;03;08;01 - 01;03;22;11
Lilliana
I think it's James said before we started recording one of you said that, so that's $1, $5 a month. You get, access to the Patriot Club, which again, is that bonus podcast you get every month.

01;03;22;14 - 01;03;24;01
Alessio
We talk about anything and everything.

01;03;24;04 - 01;03;37;00
Lilliana
Anything. It with the first episode was kind of like, what have we been up to since the show ended a couple of years ago? And episode two, we had our mods, Chad and Nick on, to talk about serial.

01;03;37;02 - 01;03;37;21
Alessio
Now, which was.

01;03;37;21 - 01;03;59;04
Lilliana
Listener, which was a, a listener voted. Y'all did that and it was a thoroughly entertaining episode. So that's really cool. Patriot club. And then $10 a month thinking it's you videos. So you're going to get the video of this episode. You're going to get the videos of the Patriot Club, that we do. The only exception sometimes is going to be the interviews we do.

01;03;59;10 - 01;04;17;07
Lilliana
We cannot always guarantee that, interview subject is going to want to be on video. So if they are great, you'll get a video. If not, you'll get a video of us introducing the episode, and then it will be like a picture, just like, kind of on YouTube. But, that's the only, like, potential exception. But yeah, videos at the $10 range.

01;04;17;15 - 01;04;28;05
Lilliana
And then again, unless I mentioned it, every every tier gets access to the 65 episodes that we have, Patriot Club that we did before. So that's like hours and hours of content.

01;04;28;05 - 01;04;50;06
Alessio
Yeah. So even if you're paying a dollar, it's like anything that was released pre return of Metal Gear Mondays. So pre May of 2025. Anything released before then. You just get immediately. So even $1 people can listen to Patriot Club. Yeah. So that Patriot club. Not that.

01;04;50;09 - 01;04;50;23
Lilliana
That. Yeah.

01;04;50;24 - 01;04;51;25
Alessio
I think that.

01;04;51;25 - 01;04;55;28
Lilliana
Iteration of it. Before we head out.

01;04;56;00 - 01;04;56;19
James
Yeah, yeah. Of course.

01;04;56;19 - 01;05;00;08
Lilliana
Now I have a couple of theories that I want to run by you both.

01;05;00;11 - 01;05;13;02
Alessio
Yeah. So I guess it's actually good that you put this at the end. So I was going to say, if anybody wants to go in fully blind, please tune out. At this point, look at this. This happened organically. I had it in my head to make this happen. Look at this. But yeah. So we're going to talk.

01;05;13;09 - 01;05;15;23
Lilliana
It's like we're professionals.

01;05;15;25 - 01;05;17;26
Alessio
We're going to talk about some supplementaries.

01;05;17;28 - 01;05;18;10
Lilliana
Yeah.

01;05;18;16 - 01;05;27;23
Alessio
One of them really pisses me off. And I'm like, not, oh, I think it's kind of silly. And, and I hope it's not real. But we'll see.

01;05;27;25 - 01;05;44;22
Lilliana
So I'm going to start with two. I'm going to do two of them. And I think one of them is pretty obvious based on the things that we've seen so far. But we know that Higgs is back and we know that he's like in this fucking red fucking weird suit and things like that.

01;05;44;27 - 01;05;47;23
Alessio
He's also like Buffalo billing, Emily's.

01;05;47;23 - 01;06;10;01
Lilliana
Face that that's the thing. Like, I like he was supposedly like, we he was written off or whatever the fuck in the first one, and now he's back somehow. And, I mean, I think the general prevailing thought is that he is now piggybacking on Emily's body somehow, which is fucking weird. My other theory, and this is not one that I've necessarily seen, I'm sure it's out there.

01;06;10;01 - 01;06;36;19
Lilliana
I'm sure it's floating around, but it is one that I kind of came up independently, just like looking at the stuff they've made a lot of like fuss about, like tomorrow and her powers and like how special she is and all this other stuff. I think that there's going to be some fucking time fuckery, and we're going to discover that tomorrow and Lou are the same person.

01;06;36;21 - 01;06;37;14
James
Oh.

01;06;37;16 - 01;06;48;03
Alessio
That is my I love you to death. And there's nothing wrong with I think your theory holds water. I just think if that does end up happening, I'm going to be irritated because it feels like I'm.

01;06;48;04 - 01;06;57;17
Lilliana
Not saying it's good. Right? Right. I'm saying it's likely. I think it's a solid theory whether or not is a good thing.

01;06;57;20 - 01;06;59;23
James
Yeah, no different for sure.

01;06;59;25 - 01;07;11;01
Lilliana
There's been a lot of you've talked a lot in the discord about how like you're going to just get completely like fucked up. Oh yeah. Over, over the fact that like, as Lou is the same age is like about the same age as your.

01;07;11;01 - 01;07;13;02
Alessio
Daughter, almost like literally straight up.

01;07;13;02 - 01;07;13;13
Lilliana
Almost like.

01;07;13;20 - 01;07;20;02
Alessio
To the day. Like so Edith turned to 18 months on the 20 on the 23rd.

01;07;20;04 - 01;07;20;29
James
Oh, wow.

01;07;21;01 - 01;07;26;04
Alessio
And so it's literally like the day before, like the day this episode drops, like.

01;07;26;07 - 01;07;43;22
Lilliana
So, so there's that. But I do think it's funny that you have, that you have a, you know, your your wife is like a blond, like tall blond, and your daughter is probably going to grow up to be, like, blond, and tomorrow is a ball. Yeah.

01;07;43;26 - 01;07;44;18
Alessio
Yeah.

01;07;44;21 - 01;07;46;24
Lilliana
It's very it's very funny. It is extreme.

01;07;46;25 - 01;07;48;18
Alessio
It currently has about us.

01;07;48;18 - 01;07;48;25
James
Yeah.

01;07;48;26 - 01;07;52;16
Alessio
Edith currently has, very curly like red hair.

01;07;52;16 - 01;07;54;20
Lilliana
Like, has like a, like strawberry.

01;07;54;25 - 01;07;59;14
Alessio
But that's the shitty part is, like, Lou as a baby looks so much like my daughter.

01;07;59;17 - 01;08;00;15
Lilliana
It's fucking.

01;08;00;15 - 01;08;01;02
Alessio
Love gone.

01;08;01;03 - 01;08;04;09
Lilliana
Crazy. How much Lou and Edith look alike? Like I like.

01;08;04;16 - 01;08;06;22
Alessio
Could you maybe go to my house and scan the.

01;08;06;24 - 01;08;08;02
James
Seems that way.

01;08;08;05 - 01;08;25;14
Lilliana
That day, that day, that me, that day that me and Charles were there and the fucking alarm went off. That was Kojima breaking into the house and both I forgot. Jen's you know, this story. I feel I just really quick. I just want to tell it, me and, me and my wife went to Atlanta back in February to visit Alessio.

01;08;25;14 - 01;08;50;13
Lilliana
Just kind of like, see his new home and meet EDA for the first time and things like that. And we were we were staying in, unless his mother in law was staying around the same time. So we had we stayed in the office that you see right now. So we stayed in there. And it was the we were storming and the power went out and the battery backup, I think is what it was.

01;08;50;13 - 01;08;51;08
Lilliana
Alessio.

01;08;51;10 - 01;08;52;26
Alessio
Oh, right. Like I've got like a like.

01;08;52;26 - 01;09;13;21
Lilliana
Yeah, yeah. Like something happened and this fucking whoa whoa whoa whoa in the middle at like three in the morning and I, I like the, the way that my soul almost literally left my body. Like, I leapt out of bed and, it was like, what the fuck? What the fuck? I'm looking around. I just like, what is that?

01;09;13;21 - 01;09;18;24
Lilliana
What is that? How do we turn it off? I was like, I don't know, I don't know, what do we do? And then you and then you just you.

01;09;18;26 - 01;09;19;11
James
Just hear.

01;09;19;14 - 01;09;20;19
Alessio
Ad mode fluid.

01;09;20;19 - 01;09;21;08
James
Yeah.

01;09;21;11 - 01;09;36;26
Lilliana
You here, and then you just in the left. You're just flings the door open and, like, goes under the desk and, like, fixes it. And I was like, what was that? It was like it was a back up. And then he like, goes that closes the door. It goes back to Jesus Christ. And somehow through all of that, Edith and Kristen did not wake up at all.

01;09;36;27 - 01;09;38;05
James
That's incredible. So the crazy.

01;09;38;05 - 01;09;51;02
Alessio
Part is like, so I happen to be awake. I don't even know what fucking woke me up, but I like happen to be awake. And as I'm about to lay back down the bed, I see out of my window the street lights are not on.

01;09;51;04 - 01;09;51;09
James


01;09;51;14 - 01;10;01;13
Alessio
And immediately I was like, oh fuck, the battery backups going to scream. And so I was already like halfway to the office when it started happening, and I was like.

01;10;01;15 - 01;10;04;04
James
God damn.

01;10;04;06 - 01;10;22;04
Lilliana
It was just like the forceful knock followed by the two. Just kind of it was like, here's your warning. I don't care what state that you're in. And and not that I was just going to be like, but ass naked in AES office are going to take that. But it's just like it was just like.

01;10;22;07 - 01;10;23;06
James
Fuck it, who cares?

01;10;23;06 - 01;10;26;11
Lilliana
I gotta get it before my daughter wakes up at 3 a.m..

01;10;26;16 - 01;10;27;17
James
Yes.

01;10;27;19 - 01;10;34;07
Alessio
Yeah. 100. That is the that is the energy level of a father who does not want to be up for multiple hours.

01;10;34;09 - 01;10;36;11
James
To crumble anyway.

01;10;36;16 - 01;10;37;12
Alessio
But yeah, I.

01;10;37;12 - 01;10;43;06
Lilliana
Don't either of you have any, like, special pet theories that you've been thinking of or those, like, the two main ones that you.

01;10;43;09 - 01;11;06;12
Alessio
Yeah. I'm curious to see if any past characters are going to show up outside of a flashback because, like, we know that pigs can do it, right? Somehow. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, but like, is, die or die hard man going to show up somehow? Yeah. Is also is, I feel like Cliff Cliff's story is definitely done, like, definitively over.

01;11;06;12 - 01;11;08;29
Alessio
So I don't see Mads Mikkelsen coming back.

01;11;09;05 - 01;11;12;00
James
I'll surprise, like flashback, maybe, but. Yeah.

01;11;12;02 - 01;11;17;18
Alessio
Or like, what weird celeb is going to be in this game that has not been revealed. You know what I mean? Like that's what I'm interested in.

01;11;17;25 - 01;11;47;00
Lilliana
Yeah. I'm interested, I'm interested. The thing, the thing that I've heard and I think it's pretty obvious based on like what we've seen is that like the Neil stuff with the when he puts on the bedpan and stuff that's like this game's equivalent of the cliff stuff, that was in the first one. So I, I'm very excited about, like, what that entails, because I think the cliff sections were some of my favorite parts of Death Stranding.

01;11;47;00 - 01;11;51;01
Alessio
One do you think we'll play is Neil?

01;11;51;04 - 01;11;52;13
Lilliana
That would be an interesting.

01;11;52;18 - 01;11;54;12
Alessio
I think nobody has brought that up.

01;11;54;14 - 01;12;18;07
Lilliana
Yeah. No, some I know that like we know the answer to that question. I just don't know what the answer is because I like La la land my way out of it. So, like he was taught, he came on stage during SGF, and talked about it and like I disassociated like five minutes in, not because I was bored or like didn't or like didn't care, but just because, like, I don't want to hear this.

01;12;18;10 - 01;12;20;05
Lilliana
So I just kind of like eyes glazed over.

01;12;20;06 - 01;12;22;06
Alessio
Oh, so he does. He already confirmed whether.

01;12;22;06 - 01;12;29;24
Lilliana
He showed, like a clip, he showed like an extended clip of Neil and, Lucy. I think her name is. That's the.

01;12;29;26 - 01;12;31;09
Alessio
Actual wife.

01;12;31;11 - 01;12;52;11
Lilliana
Yeah. In real life, the actors are married. Yeah. I think her name is Lucy. I think the character's name is Lucy, but shows, like an extended clip of that scene of them talking in the office. And then he talked about, like, the Neil sections and, like, all of those stuff. And so I'm pretty sure he answered the question about, like, if we're going to play as Neil got in there, but I had already like.

01;12;52;13 - 01;13;11;29
Alessio
Yeah. So some listener at home like, damn it, guys, you're too stupid to figure it out. I will say this, like Kojima skewing towards, over marketing that has been happening is a little irritating. It's like, I hate that. Like, we've already seen 90% of the cast, right?

01;13;11;29 - 01;13;18;06
James
Essentially a rented out, like a theater. So like, premiered that whole thing. It's like, What?

01;13;18;09 - 01;13;32;07
Alessio
Yeah. Speaking of which, if anybody knows any expos in their town and, they want us to come to them, I'm going to be I'm going to be real with you. If you guys reach out to the expo in your town and say that these guys need to come to.

01;13;32;11 - 01;13;33;28
Lilliana
Town, we want them here.

01;13;33;28 - 01;13;55;22
Alessio
Yeah, that will be more effective than me sending an email stating, hey, we would like to be there. Because if there's like fan clamoring, then it'll be helpful. But because of where we are located, I would say anything near Atlanta would be great. If you're anywhere around that area, anything around New York City obviously would be fine because like, we got connects.

01;13;55;24 - 01;14;16;13
Alessio
I don't expect Comic-Con New York, but, anything in the Midwest, I think it should be fairly easy. And then I think just out of sheer necessity, if we do end up going to MGS con either just to be there or involved in some way, I think LA is probably not out of the out of the question currently.

01;14;16;16 - 01;14;34;23
Alessio
I would not travel to LA, but in the future, for, for a convention. Yes, for sure. But yeah. Anyway, I think that's all I got. Do you guys have anything? James, any final thoughts? Theories, desires?

01;14;34;26 - 01;14;45;01
James
I think I have any theories. I'm just pumped. Like I'm excited. Like you said earlier, to have another day, okay, a game, excited to see what it tries to say and how well it says it.

01;14;45;04 - 01;15;04;13
Alessio
Yeah. I mean, he totally he claimed, when Covid hit and he got super sick, which is weird because he won't share any personal details about it. Like he explicitly said, he did not want to talk about it. But he got super, super sick. And then just throughout the script for the original sequel and rewrote it. So I'll be curious to see, like what?

01;15;04;15 - 01;15;05;08
James
That's interesting.

01;15;05;08 - 01;15;08;01
Alessio
A literal post-Covid script looks like.

01;15;08;03 - 01;15;08;29
James
Yeah.

01;15;09;01 - 01;15;12;11
Lilliana
But nice. Gonna be interesting. Yeah.

01;15;12;11 - 01;15;25;03
Alessio
Oh, also send us your listener responses. Yeah. We're we're peppering them out throughout the show itself. We're not doing dedicated episodes anymore unless we start to get 100 of them, in which case, yeah. Hell, yeah.

01;15;25;05 - 01;15;25;22
Lilliana
You.

01;15;25;25 - 01;15;36;27
Alessio
Be a contact at Metal Gear mondays.com. And. Yeah, tell your friends. Tell your family. Just leave a rating. Even if they don't listen. Just tell your mom to put a five star rating on our show.

01;15;37;00 - 01;15;37;18
James
Yeah,

01;15;37;21 - 01;15;49;22
Alessio
Because that helps us get discovered. Especially with Death Stranding to right around the corner. I am actually going to check something really fast. So you guys talk about something?

01;15;49;23 - 01;16;10;03
Lilliana
Yeah. So like I said earlier, you can leave or leave the reviews like Alessio just said. If you want to support us, the link again is Patreon.com slash Metal Gear Mondays. We also have a link tree. You can go to, link treatment or Gear Mondays. Or I discover that link shrieked com slash. Metal Gear Mondays also works.

01;16;10;07 - 01;16;12;24
Alessio
Oh, I did not know it.

01;16;12;27 - 01;16;34;04
Lilliana
So that's our Linktree page. It has like all the links to all of our socials and, a, a database that, that, our, our listener, our good pal Matt, drag and hide, man, where you can, like, search up like phrases and words and it'll, like, search the transcripts for all of our episodes and find specific phrases and words.

01;16;34;07 - 01;16;41;23
Lilliana
So that's really cool. And like, links, all links to Patreon, links to our socials, things like that. So please, give that a look to perfect timing.

01;16;41;25 - 01;17;17;29
Alessio
So if you go to Apple Podcasts and you type in death Stranding, we are the 55th show that shows up. So if you could promote the shit out of us in whatever way. I mean, granted, Metal Gear is the all the core keywords for our show. But just ahead of the Death Stranding launch, especially with all these Death Stranding episodes that are going to be coming out, it will probably be a lot easier for the show to show up in those searches, but, yeah, if you don't mind leaving a comment, leaving a review or whatever, depending on your platform.

01;17;18;01 - 01;17;24;05
Alessio
That would be super sick. Third podcast that comes up if you type in Metal Gear. But yeah.

01;17;24;06 - 01;17;27;00
Lilliana
Remember, we're fourth. Yeah. What's happening?

01;17;27;07 - 01;17;37;03
Alessio
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I guess next time that you hear our voices, we will have played Death Stranding two. Yeah. That's exciting.

01;17;37;05 - 01;17;37;26
James
It's crazy.

01;17;37;28 - 01;17;42;21
Alessio
Fire fired up. Is it only on PS5 for now? Yeah. Okay. Got it.

01;17;42;25 - 01;17;58;04
Lilliana
Yeah. But, yeah, you hit me up. Linktree. Liliana on. If you want to find me on the internet, buy my books. That's for. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah. Where they are.

01;17;58;06 - 01;18;03;28
James
Games I found. I finally don't have anything to promote. You can't find me really anywhere right now.

01;18;04;01 - 01;18;04;20
Lilliana
As a matter of fact.

01;18;04;21 - 01;18;15;28
James
Don't. Don't mind. Wait. I'm gonna pop up with some stuff later in the year. Probably. But for right now, like, just hang tight, hang out. I'll be here on Metal Gear Mondays.

01;18;16;00 - 01;18;18;02
Alessio
I'll pay you to leave me alone.

01;18;18;09 - 01;18;21;04
James
Yeah, yeah.

01;18;21;06 - 01;18;22;05
Alessio
Nice. You can find me on.

01;18;22;05 - 01;18;27;03
Lilliana
Send me your Patreon link. And, I'll donate to the Patreon if you fucking stop talking to me.

01;18;27;05 - 01;18;28;28
James
Nice.

01;18;29;01 - 01;18;34;11
Alessio
Infamy at LSU somerville.com as per usual website redesign. Impending.

01;18;34;13 - 01;18;38;20
Lilliana
Okay, the aforementioned website originally.

01;18;38;22 - 01;18;48;09
James
Yes, I will go to that. I want to go to that interactive database real quick and just type in website redesign. So smart.

01;18;48;11 - 01;19;14;04
Alessio
Smart, smart smart. So while James does that, I am also going to let slip an interesting thing. So because I am working on multiple podcasts, more information on that later. And because I'm working on other side projects and I also, admittedly have to funnel my film freelance through some sort of business entity. Technically, Metal Gear Mondays is now a frontman production.

01;19;14;09 - 01;19;20;19
Alessio
So my LLC is called Front Man. When it just seemed funny, tongue in cheek.

01;19;20;22 - 01;19;24;08
Lilliana
Who named that Hideo Kojima?

01;19;24;11 - 01;19;26;01
James
And action.

01;19;26;04 - 01;19;34;18
Alessio
Yeah. So not going to have a website or anything. It's literally just the legal entity that is funneling taxes for for Metal Gear.

01;19;34;20 - 01;19;38;09
James
My.

01;19;38;11 - 01;19;42;20
Lilliana
The way that you write and production, the way the genesis.

01;19;42;20 - 01;19;46;08
Alessio
Of it, I'm just going to clip it, I'm going to use it as like a producer.

01;19;46;11 - 01;19;46;17
James
Yeah.

01;19;46;21 - 01;19;50;16
Alessio
Just what is it called whenever your. What is that producer tag.

01;19;50;16 - 01;19;55;07
Lilliana
Yeah, yeah. Tell me the best music.

01;19;55;09 - 01;19;58;09
Alessio
Oh, God. Cool.

01;19;58;12 - 01;20;05;14
Lilliana
Yeah. Really quick, can I. Well, number number one, before we go, I want to say happy pride.

01;20;05;16 - 01;20;06;24
James
Oh, happy pride. June.

01;20;06;24 - 01;20;08;05
Lilliana
And it's pride month. Happy birthday.

01;20;08;05 - 01;20;08;15
James
To hell.

01;20;08;15 - 01;20;13;28
Lilliana
Yeah. Listening. Hell, yeah. And that's pretty cool.

01;20;14;00 - 01;20;16;11
Alessio
Yeah. Sorry for not putting that front and center. That is.

01;20;16;13 - 01;20;16;28
James
Yeah.

01;20;17;00 - 01;20;17;12
Alessio
Absolutely.

01;20;17;12 - 01;20;25;11
Lilliana
I saw them and it's like, I, I listen, listen, I just want I, I am fucking transgender and I didn't remember it, so.

01;20;25;13 - 01;20;26;17
James
Hi.

01;20;26;19 - 01;20;29;21
Alessio
James. How's it going? Saint Louis always has a dope ass parade.

01;20;29;23 - 01;20;40;28
James
Yeah. Did. Well, there's, there's two parades this year. The downtown one has taken quite the hit the last couple of years. There's a new one popping up in Tower Grove, though, which is really good.

01;20;41;01 - 01;20;45;21
Alessio
Nice. Okay. Cool. Cool.

01;20;45;23 - 01;20;49;13
Lilliana
The other thing, and I, I left that little gap so you can cut it out if you.

01;20;49;16 - 01;20;51;00
James
If you want to.

01;20;51;03 - 01;20;53;27
Lilliana
Can I make a quick little political statement?

01;20;53;29 - 01;20;55;01
Alessio
Sure.

01;20;55;03 - 01;20;56;24
Lilliana
Because a lot of stuff is happening right now.

01;20;56;25 - 01;21;00;05
Alessio
No. Yeah, yeah, yeah I referenced the LA thing earlier.

01;21;00;07 - 01;21;08;24
Lilliana
Yeah I, I don't know I don't know if like I doubt it, but like I don't know if that's going to be resolved by the time this episode comes out. It's going to be a couple weeks.

01;21;08;27 - 01;21;15;18
Alessio
Well, as of like 12 hours ago, a Democratic senator literally just asked if he could ask a question at, Christi.

01;21;15;23 - 01;21;18;00
Lilliana
And got like, shoved out of the.

01;21;18;02 - 01;21;27;24
Alessio
Well, no, he got like, pushed to the ground, handcuffed and taken out. Like he literally got assaulted by by it, by un unmarked people who had no identification on.

01;21;27;24 - 01;21;28;28
James
Inside.

01;21;29;00 - 01;21;30;08
Alessio
The fucking Gestapo.

01;21;30;12 - 01;21;40;11
Lilliana
Lots, lots of insane shit going on right now. All I want to say is fuck ice free Palestine. Let's fucking.

01;21;40;14 - 01;21;41;08
James
That's right.

01;21;41;11 - 01;21;42;26
Alessio
It's fucking insane.

01;21;43;01 - 01;21;44;05
James
Yeah.

01;21;44;07 - 01;21;45;11
Alessio
Yes. So praying for all.

01;21;45;11 - 01;21;53;26
Lilliana
I can just. I can just hear from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Chad going, let's go.

01;21;53;28 - 01;21;56;02
Alessio
I feel it in my soul.

01;21;56;05 - 01;21;56;18
James
Yeah.

01;21;56;18 - 01;22;11;16
Alessio
It's crazy as, again, as a new dad, I just need you to know that I, will stare dead eyed at the news until 4:00 in the morning frequently. And it sucks. So, Yeah. Get out there and do whatever you can.

01;22;11;18 - 01;22;13;28
James
Right. Yeah.

01;22;14;01 - 01;22;20;12
Alessio
Vote and choose whether you give money to. Those are the two big things. Also protest.

01;22;20;14 - 01;22;27;05
Lilliana
Unless you when you vote, where do you put your what do you put your ballot in?

01;22;27;07 - 01;22;30;04
Alessio
I type it into a computer and use an ID card.

01;22;30;07 - 01;22;33;02
Lilliana
Pretend it's the 90s.

01;22;33;04 - 01;22;36;07
James
I love how close the library.

01;22;36;10 - 01;22;43;16
Lilliana
Where you put your fucking ballot in the goddamn 1990. So let's pretend you're voting for fucking Ross Perot. Yeah.

01;22;43;19 - 01;22;49;03
James
I put it where he tells me to put it in the public auditorium.

01;22;49;05 - 01;22;50;22
Alessio
Put it in the box.

01;22;50;24 - 01;22;57;25
James
You're voting for fucking Dan Quayle? Where are you? Put your fucking. Where do you put your fucking ballot?

01;22;57;27 - 01;23;02;00
Alessio
I don't know, because they're gonna have to recount it anyway. Al Gore's.

01;23;02;00 - 01;23;05;11
Lilliana
Running. Yeah. That's true. He invented the internet.

01;23;05;17 - 01;23;06;27
James
I put for nine.

01;23;07;00 - 01;23;15;28
Lilliana
Yeah. It's just it's just a box to box.

01;23;16;00 - 01;23;18;09
Lilliana