On Episode 7 of the Bring It Out podcast, Ben sits down with Jon Tyson to talk about how our character formation is way more important than our gifts and competencies. Jon is the Lead Pastor at Church of the City in New York City. He is the author of multiple books, including Beautiful Resistance and The Intentional Father. We dive into how to know yourself, recognize the major themes in your life, and redefine how you think about significance. We even cover how you can begin to bring out the unique gifts and callings in your children.