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How Narcissistic Traits Show Up in Leaders (And Why It Matters) - Kathleen Saxton
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What if the way you understand people is incomplete?
In this episode of The Courageous Leaders Podcast, I am joined by Kathleen Saxton, Psychotherapist, Executive Coach, and Best-Selling Author, to explore the psychology behind behaviour, leadership, and one of the most misunderstood traits, narcissism.
This conversation goes beyond labels.
From how narcissism actually shows up in men and women, to identity, emotional patterns, and leadership blind spots, this episode challenges how we interpret people, power, and performance.
Because often, what we think is happening is not the full picture.
If you want to better understand human behaviour, navigate complex personalities, and become more self-aware as a leader, this episode will shift your perspective.
What We Cover:
00:00 – Trailer
02:00 – The Courage to Walk Away from Toxic Situations
04:10 – Why People Stay in Toxic Jobs & Relationships
07:30 – Trauma, Therapy & Personal Backstory
10:15 – Narcissistic Relationships & Validation Trap
12:00 – What Narcissism Really Looks Like
14:10 – Narcissism: Traits vs Personality Disorder
18:00 – How Narcissists Manipulate & Control You
21:10 – The Dark Triad Explained
22:30 – Why Narcissists Become Leaders
26:15 – Why Companies Protect Toxic High Performers
31:40 – How to Handle a Narcissistic Boss
43:20 – Covert vs Grandiose Narcissists
47:10 – Can Narcissists Change?
50:10 – Are Narcissists Good Leaders?
58:00 – Character vs Performance in Leadership
01:05:00 – Final Advice: Protect Yourself & Your Integrity
This is not just about understanding others.
It is about understanding how you lead and show up.
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