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Is Ruthlessness the Price of Reaching the Top? | A Leaders' Panel Discussion

Joanna Howes Episode 200

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What’s the one toxic leadership behaviour you’d banish forever? In this special Leadership Room 101 episode of The Courageous Leaders Podcast, three industry leaders each argue to banish one leadership behaviour for good: busyness, fear-based leadership, or pay-to-play culture. I’m joined by Katy Wright (Chief Client & Business Officer, AMV BBDO), Sergio Lopez Ferrero (Global CEO, Omnicom Production), and Sachini Imbuldeniya (Co-Founder & CEO, House of Oddities).

Each leader gets around ten minutes to make their case, and at the end I pick just one to send into Room 101. The debate is honest, funny, and at times a little controversial, and each argument says something real about how leadership and the creative industry work today.

What We Cover:
00:00 Trailer
00:50 The Leadership Room 101 concept, and meet the three leaders
01:50 Katy's nomination: Busyness as a badge of honour
06:20 Is being "busy" really pride, or is it fear?
10:20 The fear of not looking busy enough
12:50 The link between rest, sleep, and real creativity
19:50 Sergio's nomination: Fear-based leadership
21:50 Why blaming an unnamed "head office" erodes trust
24:50 Can a little fear actually be healthy in leadership?
27:20 Why "alpha" leadership is over, and vulnerability is rising
27:50 The uncomfortable debate: do CEOs have psychopathic tendencies?
40:50 Sachini's nomination: Why pay-to-play is rigging the industry
45:50 Awards and access: is success bought or earned?
47:50 How pay-to-play shuts out great creative work
48:50 My verdict: which behaviour goes into Leadership Room 101

Key Leadership Insights:
Why “busy” has become a status symbol, and what it often hides
How to hear what your team are really telling you when they say they’re busy
Why a small amount of healthy fear can sharpen accountability
Why vulnerability now makes leaders more followable, not less
How pay-to-play systems in awards and pitching hold the industry back
Why fixing fairness at the top can change a whole company culture

Part debate, part masterclass, and a lot of fun. By the end you’ll be deciding which leadership behaviour you’d banish too.

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