We've got a packed episode for you, revealing the trials of managing a dog with seizures and the emotional toll that it takes. But we don't stop there - we also walk you through the solutions and coping mechanisms we've discovered, sharing our wisdom on food safety and the importance of managing a dog's diet and medication.
Joining me in this conversation is my guest, Anthony Lombardo, a man who wears many hats - a fitness enthusiast, PT, and passionate advocate for nutrition. We dive deep into personal development and the necessity of continual growth and learning. Amplifying the lens, we also delve into the realm of personal finance, discussing the trials and triumphs of entrepreneurship and the importance of prioritizing health.
As we switch gears, we tackle a variety of fitness topics, debunking myths, discussing the potential impact of exercises like burpees on the body, and responding to the 'one-size-fits-all' hydration advice. We also shine light on the less glamorous side of the fitness industry, questioning the false notion that looking good equates to being healthy. So, whether you're a pet lover, fitness enthusiast, entrepreneur, or someone who simply loves a hearty conversation, we've got something for you. Tune in for an episode brimming with valuable insights and experiences.
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We've got a packed episode for you, revealing the trials of managing a dog with seizures and the emotional toll that it takes. But we don't stop there - we also walk you through the solutions and coping mechanisms we've discovered, sharing our wisdom on food safety and the importance of managing a dog's diet and medication.
Joining me in this conversation is my guest, Anthony Lombardo, a man who wears many hats - a fitness enthusiast, PT, and passionate advocate for nutrition. We dive deep into personal development and the necessity of continual growth and learning. Amplifying the lens, we also delve into the realm of personal finance, discussing the trials and triumphs of entrepreneurship and the importance of prioritizing health.
As we switch gears, we tackle a variety of fitness topics, debunking myths, discussing the potential impact of exercises like burpees on the body, and responding to the 'one-size-fits-all' hydration advice. We also shine light on the less glamorous side of the fitness industry, questioning the false notion that looking good equates to being healthy. So, whether you're a pet lover, fitness enthusiast, entrepreneur, or someone who simply loves a hearty conversation, we've got something for you. Tune in for an episode brimming with valuable insights and experiences.
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Did you just say that your dog pisses on a lot of girls? It does.
Speaker 2:yeah, it's funny, my sister's friends it's really funny, oh, Jesus Christ. And we always break their balls to like. Well, you know what?
Speaker 1:now you're his. Well, that's what it is. Is he neutered? No, he's little. No, no, he's.
Speaker 1:We're thinking about like breeding. Okay, so that's what we were gonna do with Kenji. I've said this a bunch of times that's what we were gonna do with Kenji. But with the seizures and everything like that, you just can.
Speaker 1:You don't want to breed that into the line, because then Then you don't, because then you know it's just it's a heartbreak for not only the dog, because you don't want the dog to go through shit like that, but it's a heartbreak for the family Because it's so much dude. No, it is, it's just nonstop. You're just constantly monitoring the dog, looking at him Like he does something weird. You go, what's going on? You know what's going on. You know I've become more I don't want to say immune to it, but I've become more relaxed about it. Yeah, because like, listen, the dog's gonna have seizures, like here and there. Maybe we could spread them out as far as humanly possible. Now he's on potassium bromide, which is a really strong anti-convulsant, and a lot of people have said that like that's the quintessential besides phenobarbital. They said that's the one to go with If you want to do this, and that Now there's a vet that I'm very close with and he's actually a black belt at Sarah's. I'm sick.
Speaker 2:Very cool.
Speaker 1:So one day I just heard him talking one day and I was like, oh, you're a doctor, and he goes, I'm a vet. And I said, oh shit. I said, well, this is what I got going on. He agreed to see. Kenji went and saw him and it was a good situation, because you feel like when you're dealing with issues with the dogs, you become a vet. Yeah, of course you become a doctor. You almost have to like this is why you're on. Yeah, you have to almost like dawn these different titles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:And it can become something that's very anxiety inducing because you don't know if you're doing the right thing for the dog. Of course, of course, of course and this goes for people as well Absolutely, but it's like you don't know if you're doing the right thing for the dog. So, like, what do we do? Should we give him this medicine? Should we give him that medicine? And so I think having somebody on the inside it does help a little bit. It eases the anxiety of it, of course. So brought him to him. He told me to do potassium bromide because Kenji was on KEPRA and he still is for a long time. Kepra's a very light. He's been rolling around and shit. Kepra's a very light anticonvulsant. Oh cool.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And so now we added the potassium bromide to it. Now he went two months without a seizure with the potassium bromide. Okay. But one morning, like three, four weeks ago, I looked at his bed. His bed was soaked and I'm like did you pee in the bed?
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I looked hi, Kenji, now you want to say hi? Huh, we're on the air. Now you want to say hi, Come here, come over here. I know he's got a good face. So, um, I thought he has a box face. Yeah, yeah, the big ass head, oh my god. So I looked at his bed and I'm like what's going on. So I re-looked at the security cameras. He sniffed at my knee. I re-looked at security cameras and I saw I was like, oh, he had, he actually had an episode, but it was light, so normally his episodes would wake me up. Yeah, but yeah. But it was so light that I was like, oh shit, I didn't even fucking, I didn't even hear it and it was short and he recovered himself in the next morning. I wouldn't even have known if he had one if I didn't see the footage and if I didn't see the wet bed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how long did we last? Out of curiosity.
Speaker 1:It depends. No, his are long man, really yeah. So his his will last like on average. Yeah, yeah, four and a half to five and a half minutes. Oh man, that's tough. That's a long five minutes, man, it's a, it's a brutal five minutes. It's a brutal five minutes because you know, you're, and I'll tell you what there's.
Speaker 1:There's been a couple of techniques that I've learned from the seizure groups, the epilepsy groups. For the dogs there's, um, ocular, ocular compressions, that that I do, which stimulate the vagus nerve, so that actually shortens the seizures episodes and it actually helps him get out of them quicker. Um, sometimes it can almost advert. People have said that it almost took the dog out of it completely before they. Even so, they'll exhibit signs of a preocular phase or or a phase. Yeah, they'll exhibit signs of a seizure prior. They'll do the ocular compressions and then they'll, they'll not have an episode. Wow, that's wild. So it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool it is, it is really cool.
Speaker 1:So it's been, it's been, it's been an adventure. And my mom says constantly she's like this is preparing you for kids. Of course that's what this is really doing. It really is, man, preparing you for the anxiety of having kids, like the different things that go on. So it's um, it's been, it's been an adventure. Listen, I I've said it again, I've said it multiple times, I'll say it again and I'll say it again I never thought that I would, I was going to have a dog, that at three, two and a half years old he'd have issues. I never thought that, like when I, when my, when cookie, my last dog died, when cookie died, I thought that yo, I'll get a puppy Dog won't have issues until 10, 11, 12, because it never happened with cookies. So you just think that it's going to be the same situation and that's. That's not how the cards played out. So we deal with it. We just help him whenever he needs the help and he lives a very happy life. He just he's chilling, yeah, no he's a great dog.
Speaker 1:He loves it. I'll tell you what. I don't know if it's the, I don't know if it's the the medicine, but he's eating. He used to, even with the raw food. He used to give me shit, Really, oh, Like he would fight you for that, Not fight me for it. He would just refuse it, Refuse it. He would. He would come over, sniff it, walk away. I'm like bro.
Speaker 2:I don't don't that too sometimes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's. But then then he would start vomiting Like like later on if he didn't eat, because he would have. I'm trying to check this too. No, it's okay.
Speaker 1:Because he would have. I feel like a, like a mad short, I don't mind. So my, the long story short my mom, my mom actually stole this chair from her office. Nice, hey, it'd be like that. Sometimes she spent a man money on the office rent, it was what it is. So she, like, took this chair from me for the office, but it doesn't lock. So it's like, oh, you just go in, yeah, yeah, so it's like a shot chair. So she picked the one chair that was shot. So it's like I sometimes I'm just like, oh, hey, like I'm just trying to sit forward and I feel like it sinks a little bit, but anyway, so, yeah, so he would fight me on a lot of that man, and it was.
Speaker 1:It was definitely tough. But now he, I put everything in front of him and he's good. I don't know if it's the age, I don't know if something just flipped in his brain where he was like all right, he's taught it. It's time to time to munch. Now, like it's good, it's good. I give him butter, I give him whole grass-fed butter, kerry Gold. You know what? Kerry Gold got in trouble recently what For not being as grass-fed organic as they claimed. And then, from what I understand, there was an. It was an issue with the rapper.
Speaker 2:Like the rapping yeah.
Speaker 1:Really yeah, I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 2:Get the hell out of here. Yeah, oh my God, I love Kerry Gold Shit. I'm not gonna fuck him through that out.
Speaker 1:Hold on one second.
Speaker 2:And take time. Man, we, we, we need a Jamie. Jamie, would you?
Speaker 1:like that up, please, we need it. We do need a Jamie. It's crazy. Let me see I have so many people messaging me about the fast. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's sick. We definitely got to talk about that we will.
Speaker 1:I've been doing that a while too. Kerry Gold class action lawsuit. Oh Jesus, that's not fucking bad. Yeah, that's falsely advertised as pure Irish butter. A butter consumer sued Top class action. Oh my God, can you please stop popping shit up on my screen? I know I'm so tired of it. Do you want cookies? Accept the cookies? Accept the we get to eat them.
Speaker 2:Accept all cookies. They don't.
Speaker 1:You have to fuck alone. Top class actions website and social media posts use affiliate links if you make a purchase. I'm trying to get to the fucking article. I'm not trying to read your ad. Kerry Gold Irish butter class action. Who a butter consumer sued or knew of foods North America? Why the plaintiff says that the company's Kerry Gold Irish butter contains forever chemicals. Oh shit, sick, oh fucking carcinogens.
Speaker 2:That's fucking wild. That's great.
Speaker 1:A butter consumer sued them, Can contain harmful, forever chemicals. In contrast to its quote unquote pure advertising yeah. Plaintiff Carolyn Winans filed the class action lawsuit against or new foods North America In a New York federal court, alleging violations of state and federal consumer laws. She says Kerry Gold Irish butter is prominently labeled as containing pure Irish butter when in fact it allegedly contains per and poly flu or oral or a lackill.
Speaker 2:No, that sounds terrible. Yeah, substances.
Speaker 1:PFAS, a category of harmful synthetic chemicals. Pfas are a group of synthetic not manmade chemicals known to be harmful to both humans and the environment, and the class action Kerry Gold lawsuit. But that roundup says that because PFAS persist and accumulate over time, they are harmful even at very low levels. Damn, that's what.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about Shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's like that roundup stuff Like you ever see those commercials now, Like if you had some food that had this or you've used roundup you can be entitled to money. Man, that roundup shit fucked a lot of people up Neurological problems. I've had patients like that where they had like early onset Parkinson's and just one side like a rare type Parkinson's strain, and they're like, yeah, man, it came from the chemical of this wild stuff, man. But if that's in there, dude, they are in some serious fucking trouble.
Speaker 1:Well, it's scary, man, because, like, what else is going to? What else is in our foods that they're just? And we go over this. I feel like every episode I go over this with the whatever guest I have on. It's like, what are they putting in our food? You know what I'm saying. Like what are they putting in our foods and why is that acceptable? Why is it acceptable to use these things? Why does like a CEO of a company, why do they find it okay to use these things? And then what? You're going to bring that food home to your family. Money man, yeah, yeah, I get it's money. But like, at what point do you, you know, at what point is there like, well, we charged top dollar for shit. We could be using real ingredients and natural stuff, but we just choose to just use the shit for no reason, even though the profit margins might not be any different. That's the crazy thing to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it would be interesting to see, like that type of like, how much money would you really lose if, like you, did a full re-e vamping? You know, like I'll give you example, like electrical cars, right, like pretty much all of the Tesla, yeah the Tesla, yeah, great car, highly recommend it. Um, I always read up on like Tesla, I'm a big fan of Tesla. Like I've stock in an OLED jazz, you know, really, you know, I got lost in the sauce with them. So what they always say is that, like Tesla has been probably 10 to 15 years ahead of them, which makes sense because that's when the car really came out.
Speaker 2:A couple of uh, around 2009, 2008. And most of the companies that are trying to go into electric, they're losing like anywhere from 30 grand to 100 grand per vehicle souls right now. But they, you know, it's one of those things where in four or five years, they're going to make, they're going to be making money. So it kind of puts that into perspective. On how the food is, you know, let's just say you know, like, oh, you know what, I don't want to use any of this chemical shit anymore, I want to use this. How much money are we going to lose per year and how long it's going to be to be getting to the green rather than the red. So it is something interesting, but that's probably such a long way to go, Nick, for, like us, to, like you know, to force them to do that because they're not going to do that with me?
Speaker 1:No, of course not Of course not because it takes too much to in their minds to just reformulate and just go back to the drawing board, but realistically it's like it doesn't take much. I'll give you an example. I definitely try not to drink too many things that have a lot of fake sugars in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like the rain is probably the only thing that I drink that has sucralose in it. I try, it's delicious. I listen, man, listen, it shouts the rain. I've talked to them a bunch of times and it's just kind of what the formulators formulate. That's what I've been told. I've talked to them about the sugars that they use and the sweeteners and it's just like, hey, it's just that's what the formulation that the scientists said. Is it so like monster down to rain? It's like that's the chain of command.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of them have been very loud in saying that we want to use different things. Right, that's okay, that's awesome. But like, is it actually going to take effect? Maybe, maybe not. It is what it is. So you know, it's like a weird situation because I'll have people message me. They'll be like, don't you drink rain? It's like, yeah, listen, I'm okay with having some in my system like moderation, but like when you drink that and then the ice cream that you eat has it, and then this has it and that had that, and you start piling it up, it's like, well, that safe amount that you thought that you were consuming from the beginning, where it was just this no, no, no, that was in 15 other items that you just consume. Yeah, it's like now it's it. So one of the things that I love is um jocco, fuel Joccos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, joccos delicious.
Speaker 1:Jocco fuel is great because the protein powder, yeah, yeah, because he uses monk fruit. Now is it a little bit bitter? Yeah, it's a little bitter. It's a different taste, man, but guess what man Like he's using monk fruit. It's like one less thing that I can cut out from like having Pretty much, yeah and um, I think that, uh, it's just, I've had like the epiphany of all epiphanies the last two years. It's been, it's been, it's been like a very interesting shift in things. It's been an interesting shift away from just complete bodybuilding. It's been an interesting shift away from, like, the foods and the things that I'm consuming, the reading the labels. I always read labels, but I wasn't ever this intense about things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, and you know it's. It's one of those things where you can't really just jump straight into being, like you know, looking at the labels of everything, you slowly transition to it, like you did with two years, and I totally agree with you. I went from, you know, buying like basic meats and stuff like that to them. Like you know what I'm going to go order from this farm? Um, I'll give you a perfect example. That's right, you were hitting me up about getting the half cow right, dude, we should do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been doing it already. It's a lot of fun. So it really is a lot of fun. It's a great dude, it's so much fun. My mom's reaction when she gets just a big old box of meats at the front door and they're like sign for this please. And my mom's like what the f-?
Speaker 1:You send it home, you send it to your mom's house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course I send it to my mom's house.
Speaker 1:I send everything to my mom's house too, oh, of course. You know, as they have a like the rain deliveries go there, so there's like 500 cases go to her house. She's like what the f is this? I go. Yeah, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have-.
Speaker 1:And then I'll come back and I'll be like you don't care. And then I look and there's like cans missing and I go yeah, you really don't care.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just have a little you, buddy, checking my f-ing rains. They have my mom and dad, they have like an ice cream freezer. You know like one little thing like that, we just like stuff it with meats. But that's one big thing that I've been doing lately. You know you buy a half a cow, an eighth of a cow. You get all these good products, all types of cuts, and you know where it's coming from. You know it's grass-fed, you know it's organic and, like you said, you know it's one of those things where if we can take one, just one small piece a day of shit out of our body, it benefits long-term and it really does.
Speaker 1:It's a lot. Yeah, using the Celtics, you know so, using Celtic salt. I've been using a lot of Celtic salt and the element and I know that there's better alternatives or options to hydrate and do everything. Because the element packs, you know, everyone goes, oh well, it's, they're expensive, but they are expensive, they taste good and it's like whatever. But it's a thousand milligrams of sodium, it's got magnesium in it, it's got potassium. So it's like, okay, cool, it's just easy. And people go, oh well, you're paying X amount for this stick when it's really just a dollar of rum. It's like, okay, I get it. But at the same time I also don't want to feel like making this shit. So it's like I'll pay them to make it, I'll have the convenience of the packs and I'll just go. But the elements are good, the element is good. I use trace mineral drops.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, yes I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1:You know for a long time. I didn't realize that if you are filtering your water, that you need to re mineralize it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Isn't that wild Years? It takes all the good end-band stuff out Crazy Years.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize that. So it's like I started with trace mineral drops, then I did elements, then with the fasting, the element helped because it gave me some type of a taste to it. Yeah, there's a lot of people that say it takes you out of the fast. But yeah, they're like, well, the flavored ones take you out of the fast because there's five calories in it. I'm just like, yeah, maybe, but Not fucking cheeseburger. Yeah, probably not. If that's considered a dirty fast, I'll dirty fast all day.
Speaker 1:It's cool, and I think that I've just I've been more open to seeing different types of diet, dieting, training styles. That's how I got into the jujitsu. I've always wanted to do jujitsu. So it's like, yeah, I've always wanted to do jujitsu and I just I think that I saw all these different training styles. I saw that I was moving away from the bodybuilding, not only shooting content-wise, but just working out. Like I haven't been to Bev's. I haven't been to Bev's in. Oh man, I think my last time there was probably June, really June, july. Oh, it's fucking almost December. Are you gonna cancel? Yeah, I'm probably, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna renew, I'm not gonna renew. And it's listen. It's no offense to Steve, of course not. I love Steve. He's a great gym, mrs I love. I love 90% of the people that go there. You're going so different now, man. That's my issue. My issue is I can't sit there for the two hours and work out. That's what it is.
Speaker 1:Two hours, oh my God, you know the easel Between talking to people between getting 30 to 45 minutes of cardio in, to just do everything and then to actually train is too much, oh it is. And so I. I just switching up the styles, switching up to what I'm doing now, and every Sunday I do the competition class. Yes, and I just while I'm doing it I'll have like little thoughts, just spacing out, just thinking, and it's just like it's crazy that my life has turned to this and not in a negative way, in a positive way, it's great. I would never assume that 10 am on a Sunday I'd be at Matt Serra's Jiu-Jitsu gym going against fucking savages.
Speaker 2:Get an ass kicked, savages.
Speaker 1:Bad dudes, man, that go to the class, because those are dudes that want to compete in ADCC, ibjjf, like all these federations that are really big deals when you're, when you start to climb the ranks. So it's like all these guys just want to get to the trials and then from the trials they want to get up and start. You know, I've never heard Gordon Ryan. You've probably heard of yes, yeah, he's the king. Everyone calls him the king. He's fucking an unbelievable at you Jiu-Jitsu. So it's like you see all these dudes that are trying to get to that level and you're rolling with them. So it's like it's exciting, man, and there's nothing more exciting than when you're looking into the eyes of another person that's trying to look at you and see where they can shoot in on you. Of course, physical chess it's fun. It's so much fun, so I have fun. The injuries have been a little bit here and there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you grew up with those two other physical therapists.
Speaker 1:I work with Nick Gilberty and I work with Scott over at Long Island Stretch the homies, so it's like you know they've helped rehab me with certain little things. My shoulder is always shot between weightlifting and Jiu-Jitsu and you had that for a while, right, yeah?
Speaker 2:I had that like.
Speaker 1:I think ever since. This is the shoulder that I hurt years ago. Yeah, I was. I was doing shoulder presses. Yeah, I hit shoulders early in the morning one day and then my buddy asked me to like go train shoulders again. I said, okay, cool, I'll go train shoulders again. It was a two day Went again later in the evening. We're pressing the 80s. I'm just working my way up to the hundreds like I usually do, and then all of a sudden my he was staring at somebody in the fucking mirror like grilling him down, and then my left arm locked, locked with the 80 and went all the way back like this, like even doing this this hurts, so like going like this. It went all the way back and then I had to actually pull it forward, back forward.
Speaker 1:And yeah, it was very painful for a while. I think it healed and then I think recently I may have refucked it up.
Speaker 2:Well it's you know BJJ, you're going to manipulate a lot of the joints, so that's something you always have to think about, right? You know that's that's tough. You know, like, even with me and I was telling you about before like I, I'm starting to do Krav Maga again and all that jazz, and I probably I have, I would say maybe like six to eight years of like just some type of mixed martial arts in my in my life. I probably started in 2012,. I did some Muay Thai. Then I had a buddy of mine, mike, we did Krav Maga together and then just some like basic jiu-jitsu, like nothing crazy, you know, like really basic stuff, and then some Kempo unboxings. It was on and off stuff, you know. So I would always remember, like you know, walking with a limp, like I kicked somebody's elbow or something like that. I'm like well, that really fucking hurt, you know.
Speaker 1:So now I'm getting that's sweet today, yeah, exactly, I got need in my quad, yeah, and now I have like a little bone bruise, yeah, because I think yeah, no, you do. I was at the grocery store before this and I was like I was limping around and like it hurts. I didn't fucking do anything, yeah man, like broken toes.
Speaker 2:forget this and that you know I've been getting back into it now and you feel all those old injuries coming back. You're like man, you know this is, we're getting back into this. I never got this fixed. I never actually got it fixed.
Speaker 1:I just, I just put a band-aid on it and some and some rock tape, yeah, rock tape. I put rock tape on it and all of a sudden I thought that was going to fix everything. Nope, it didn't. It didn't fix it. Love it, yeah. So it's. It's been, it's been quite the journey doing that stuff and I love it. Man, I really, I really fucking do. I love it. At first I was. I was posting a lot about getting the ears.
Speaker 1:Oh, the cauliflower ears, yeah, I was posting a lot about getting the ears because it started a little bit. But I was really posting because I was nervous. I was like, oh, I was like look, look, look, look, it's like okay. And then all of a sudden, now I'm at the point where I'm just like I don't give a fuck, just give it to me. I used to wear the headgear for a while. My ears were sore. I wear the bra. I call it the head bra.
Speaker 1:All the fucking upper belts would laugh at me. I'm like, yeah, look at the head, bra. But yeah, it's just such a switch up from what I'm used to.
Speaker 1:And it's nice because I don't want to do anything that's striking, like, listen, we catch feet and elbows in the face here and there and pop me in the nose and this, and that it's like, okay, I don't want to do anything. That's like direct striking, it's just not something that I'm interested in doing. You ever wanted to do something like that? No, not really, Really, I mean. No, I did some boxing with Jamal.
Speaker 2:Okay, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:So we've done a bunch of lessons together and stuff like that. So I think that's the most that I would like to get into, this striking sense of martial arts and fighting. But there's just something about the jujitsu and there's something about the grappling. I never wrestled anything like that. Everybody thinks I wrestled Every person that I go. They're like wrestling.
Speaker 1:I'm like no, they're like oh, dude, you move pretty good. I'm like okay, and I never want to look when I say things like that. I never want to come off like I'm boisterous and bragging and this and that. It's like no, I know what I'm saying, but there's a lot of dudes that would just be giving themselves pats on the back and it's like I have so much to learn. It's unbelievable, of course, just when you think you know something, I mean I got I was wrestling a dude old school today and we're doing a couple of matches back and forth, back and forth and you know, mid-match when he starts going like yo, dude, the pressure is you're giving some serious pressure, like you're doing great.
Speaker 1:I was like, oh shit, I feel good right now. But then I, you know, I still do the rookie shit because I'm a white belt, so I still do rookie shit, so I I overextended my neck a little bit and I overextended over over him and he got me in like a, like an over the top guillotine, and then he just flipped me yeah it's over.
Speaker 1:And he flipped me on my whole. I went whoop and I went to the other side and he just caught me right in the choke and that was that. I went. Okay, old school, my bad my bad, bro.
Speaker 2:Is it a while then? How, like you know, manipulating the head just controls the body. Yeah. It really is crazy and that's like a lot of physical therapy techniques as well, like with, like a neurological patients, if we want them to kind of do you know something in a situation where their nervous system isn't allowing them. They have core instincts, right? You know, if I like, move your head this way. You're going to follow that way, you're not going to just you know, install my head's going to keep going.
Speaker 2:That's not how it is. Those are very, very core, foundational reflexes that we have. So that's what BJJ comes with, which is really exciting to hear that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's cool. I do a lot of color ties, so I do a lot of, you know, behind the head, controlling it. But then I do that now because there's a lot of guys for a long time that were doing it to me so like as I was getting, you learned. Yeah, so I learned. I was like, okay, so control the neck, break their posture down, stuff like that, grab the outside tricep, throw them down and then you could shoot in stuff like that. So you know, I do all that, but my neck gets trashed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as that guy said, then you know neck is pretty much like the number one injury for type of mixed martial arts.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's really rare that you really not really rare, but I would say the majority is from the neck. You know, whether you get hit, you get manipulated. It is what it is, you know. So I get you on that. But yeah, man, that's really cool. But I think you would like striking. I think you love Crop of my God. Man, oh, I'll call me. When do you go? I go on Sundays and Tuesdays. Sundays it's on a little bit later on, like four to five, and then Tuesdays are like eight, three, nine, you going on a day, oh no.
Speaker 2:I'm not going on a day, oh okay, yeah, yeah, Um, what was going to say with that? But the cool thing about Crop of my God, I think what you like it is it's not like. I guess I want to try and say it's not foundational work. And what I mean by that is it's it's not a dirty way of fighting, but it's raw, right, it's bread and butter. You know, the Israeli soldiers use it, and the great thing about it is that you can start really anywhere.
Speaker 2:If you want to work your way up with levels, of course you have to start at level one, right, but with those things like that, it's really like street fighting. And what I mean by that is like, let's say, you know you're out with somebody and you know they come at you with a God's bit of gun or a knife or a bat. That's where it comes into play the best. It's not like oh, you know, I'm going to throw a one, two. It's more of like, all right, this guy's coming at me with some type of blunt object. How do I get it out of him? And then, like, fuck him up at the same time. So that's why I think it's really you know, it's good foundational work. I really like it like that. So I think you'd like it, you know. But again, you know you're really hitting somebody.
Speaker 1:I'm interested. I think I've transitioned mentally into a lot of self-defense stuff Because, as I'm getting older, I think it's really good to have a lot of knowledge about awareness and whatnot Like listen, you know, it's scratching.
Speaker 2:It's scratching for like 10 minutes, oh my.
Speaker 1:God, I got it and it's. It's. It's his allergies, it's not even that he's dirty. I feel bad. I know Kenji, you all right, it's. It's interesting because I carry pepper spray. Good, I have Kenji, so it's like these things I apply for my pistol permit. It's like all these different things. It's like I want to be proficient with everything. It's like I want to. Just I'm not out here looking for trouble. I've went. I've went 32. You should be looking for trouble. I've went 32 years. Are you going to be nice to him now? I've I've went 32 years of my life. Hey, kenji, I went 32 years of my life as Tails growing. He's just distracted me. Come here, come over here.
Speaker 2:He's so cute, this face oh come here.
Speaker 1:Come here, kenji. I've went 32 years of my life just not having any problems and I don't intend to start them anytime soon. I want to always be in the know and situationally aware and be able to, god forbid, something happens. I have the means and the tools to handle myself and handle, but the biggest thing is just getting away. That's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1:Even Jaco Jaco's a black belt. He talks about it all the time he goes. If it starts getting down in the streets, it's like that. He's like my first thing is like oh, you wanna fight me, I'm running. He's like you wanna do this, I'm running. And he's so right, because even if you're a salient, he comes at you and they wanna fight you and cause you bodily harm.
Speaker 1:If there's a way for you to get away, that's exactly what the judges and the courts are gonna say. It's like, well, all right, you beat the shit out of buddy. He came at you as a criminal. But like you beat the shit out of buddy and it's like, well, you could have gotten away, why did you or you shot him or you this? And that it's like the last things that I wanna ever have to do.
Speaker 1:So it's like, just I'm always gonna try get me the fuck away from the situation as a whole and I've done a very good job of just like seeing things panning out and going. It's time to leave, like especially when I had girls with me and this, and that I'd be like we're gonna get out of here. They'd be like, oh really, yep, trust me, because things are about to fizzle out over here and I don't. You know straight words, don't need to come our way, maybe present themselves to you and then I have to step out. It's like I don't wanna do any of that. I wanna just keep us away from those type of situations, because they happen like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, and you know what? Ego is a deadly thing, man. I hate it with a passion. It's one of those things where my teacher once told me he goes. You know, the best fight's the one that ever starts.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:You know, but it's wow, man, and I guess you know, as we get more mature in time, right, we look at it and you see, the majority of the time I think we can both face, that is, the fights are with, like younger people.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, I would say probably like 18 to 24, right, something along around like that, and I don't know what it was Maybe if I did it when I was younger I never got into any fight in my entire life but you know, I got into fights in high school little tussles, nothing that was real.
Speaker 1:Nothing that was real. Yeah, no little tussles, nothing, crazy, it was like such bullshit. And then nothing in college, yeah, no. Yeah, no, I don't, because I don't listen. Man, I hold myself a certain way. Of course, I make sure that I look like I'm not to be fucked with at all times. Yeah, I love the intimidation factor. Yeah, I just look like I'm not to be fucked with. But there's also like I'll look people dead in the eye and I'll just like acknowledge them on the street. There was a kid recently in town.
Speaker 2:See, I didn't even do that, man. I'll be honest with you. Man, like you see these videos where, like people look, you know, you see like stupid fights, where, like someone looked at somebody the wrong way and like that was the fucking problem.
Speaker 1:When I look at people I go what's going on, man? Like that's it. What's going on? Like just a friendly hello, that's all it is Friendly hello. We're not enemies, there's nothing here. But like I also wanted people to know, like I recognize.
Speaker 2:I see you, I'm looking at you, I see you, I know where you are.
Speaker 1:I'm not somebody that I'm not recognizing, I see you. So just you know, if we're not going to talk nice to each other, just keep walking, because unfortunately you know there's people that go out looking to start problems. There was a kid recently in Huntington Village Kid recently he was walking down the street. Kenji and I Is that about you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh shit, I may be like I don't know, I may be like 40 feet ahead of him and Kenji and I are walking, kenji sniffing the tree, this and that, and the kid is going behind us. He's walking towards us, towards the street, and he's just going hey, like that, like that, hey don't walk away from me. What Don't you walk away from me? No, really, I swear, and I'm just like I keep turning around, looking because he's not screaming, he's just like very, very talking level. So I'm like, so I keep looking and there's no, there's really no one else around us. So I'm looking back and I just go, whatever. So I just I keep walking with Kenji. Hey, right, when I turn around, hey, don't you walk away from me, don't you walk away from me. So I turn around, he gets close to us.
Speaker 1:I look at him and he's like staring at me like an asshole, like really, just like. Was he like a little kooky, maybe, or something like that? You think no, no, he's a bit of a dick, he's trying to incite problems. So I'm looking at him and I go, I literally go like this, I go, you talking to me Like that, like very just, are you fucking talking to me? I just went are you talking to me? And he goes no, my friend over there, the fuck right in my face. He went fuck, oh dude. And then he walks past me and he goes yo, you got more the fuck. I'm sticking up talking to them.
Speaker 1:Now he's shelling at his friend. I go, you weren't doing that. His friend is across the street, you're not reaching him. You're not reaching him. I go, bro, I'm like whatever. I didn't even say anything back to him, I just looked at him. I watched him as he walked away, watched his hands and I just whatever. Bro, Like you just want to be an asshole on the street. Just try to cause random issues with people. Don't worry about it, dude. Like it's big dude, big man, it's cool, bro, you're cool.
Speaker 1:Okay, people weird these days, man, but that's why I mind my business. I mind my business for the most part, and that's one of the things with Kenji, with the barking. I try to stop him because he draws a lot of attention, of course he does?
Speaker 2:I know he's a big bark too.
Speaker 1:He's a big bark, so like super early or super late at night, so like what? Was it Thanksgiving day? Yeah, after Thanksgiving Eve, cause it's a fucking shit to hold asylum up here.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, I'm in Ronald Center. It was a shit just by Dirty Taco and stuff like that, oh my.
Speaker 1:God. So, and I live Little kids too. Oh my God, I live right in the epicenter of it all, so like. So I woke up at 430 in the morning cause they had the gym at 6am. I woke up at 430, I go start walking Kenji, and there were some people that were acting very strange across the street. Just weird, you can tell they're still fucked up, just acting weird. He's howling at them, barking, barking, barking. The first couple are okay, but then I'm like Ken, stop, because like the more he barks, the more attention he's going to just us. I'm like you gotta stop, buddy. Like please, just like cut it out, because like I don't want them to shut the dog up or something like that Cause. Then I'm like, I'm like, I'm like yo, bro, watch your mouth. Like it's not that serious. So I'm chill the fuck out. So I was like, yeah, people are just strange man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I gotta tell you, man, like, with things like that that you know you see these videos of like people Robin, you know, like Altus, and stuff like that. You know I always think about like situations. You know, with situational awareness, I kind of like give myself like a, like an internal awareness, like what would I do? You know, I'd be honest, I would be very scared to get into a fight, not because I wouldn't be able to like finish the problem. You know what I'm saying. I would be nervous that like they would get seriously hurt.
Speaker 2:And I'm not trying to be like a cocky person, you know, like I'm just trying to say, like you know it's, we live in a world where you know heroes and stuff like that and sticking up for people is like banished, you know, and you'd be like, well, you know, like you gave a perfect example. Like well, you know, I fucked them up, like yeah, but you could have just walked away. You know it's like I could have, but like the guy was doing this, like I stopped him. It's like, yeah, you stopped him, but you almost broke his.
Speaker 1:Like you know, you broke three arms and two legs, so it takes one head to get bounced off the cement and they're at a fucking homo or dead. And now you're on trial for manslaughter. It's scary man.
Speaker 2:So like I really get scared about that Cause, let's say, you know, like one day I have a family and kids and stuff like that, and you know a problem does arise and I do have to do it. You know we can both face it and call what it is. You know we have advanced knowledge and advanced strength. Right, we're definitely not average, Nick, I'll tell you that right now. You know. So to have that, you know, like you know, do you hold back, do you go full force on them, Like what do you do?
Speaker 1:I think it's a reading situation. Oh, a whole hundred percent. You have to just see how things are panning out. Because if they're, you know, it's just like a.
Speaker 1:Everyone keeps asking me if I'm gonna compete in Jiu-Jitsu. And I want to, that's cool, but I know they're not gonna sink those submissions slow. Exactly, they're going to try to rip my armor. Of course, it just is what it is, Because if they do it slow, their thought process is well then I'm just gonna roll out of it, Cause they're giving me common courtesy, and I'm just gonna roll out of it and say fuck it. So it's like this is the same thing when you're gonna be facing in a saline in the street Somebody that's trying to do bodily harm to you, Exactly correct. Are they gonna stop? Chances are no, they're not.
Speaker 1:So I think, in terms of what the best practices are, I think it has to be some type of restraint and it has to be something where you can choke them. Choke them out like a, like a rear naked choked. I've seen many videos like that Rear naked, choke, hold it. But now you gotta hold it for the right amount of time, Exactly, Cause you hold it too long and I'm gonna fuck it's dead. Yeah, so it's like you have to really know the limits of things.
Speaker 1:I think that comes with training. I think that comes with just maturity as human beings, Because think about, like when we were at National Community College together we are very different human beings. So that day it is so crazy to look back on me you Julio, fucking Chris, Like it is so wild to think back to like how we thought, how we were as individuals and humans, and how our environments and the different paths that we've all taken Although similar in certain ways very different how they've changed us and upgraded us and made us different. Yeah, of course. So I think it just comes with. I think it comes with the territory of just being like I'm watching a lot of CCW stuff, Conceal Carry, Firearm stuff, oh, so I'm looking at a lot of which one? The. I know what you're talking about Asp. You ever see Asp? Yeah, Actually I love that guy. He is so cool.
Speaker 2:But do you see, like the fucked up situations that like happen on those videos it's most of them granted, like in Brazil, peru, like areas where like there's like record crime and gang violence and stuff like that. So that's where it usually comes from. But, dude, those are great videos to watch and kind of get yourself through that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when it comes down to it, you have to understand and read situations, because dude comes in let's say I'm right next to an exit dude comes in with a fucking shotgun or a fucking machine gun or a firearm, whatever and he starts blasting the ceiling yeah, and it was down. Shit like that Can I get out. And if I can get out, I have to take that. I can't just be like, oh, I got my concealed, like it's the fucking Wild West, and pull my gun out and shoot him, cause now I'm on trial.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and not even that, but a lot of the videos, a lot of people that have, conceals they in, I guess, un-concealed, in an inappropriate way, and then there's like a Well, they brandish the firearm or instead of having their hands up like hey, hey, hey, they reach for it.
Speaker 1:And now it's a situation where it's like now you're here and they're now fighting for the gun Maybe he was just gonna rob you. And now, listen, I think it's fucked up. I think that if you have, you know, the means to stop civilians from being able to protect themselves, it becomes a very tough situation. 100%, 100%. I understand the laws, though, and I'll always follow them. I'm not gonna be somebody that goes against them. That's why I'm doing all the paperwork and I'm doing everything the right way, everything correctly. I'm making sure that I take the proper channels, cause I don't want to do it the wrong way, of course, and guess what? If a proper doesn't allow me to have it on me, I'm not gonna have it on me.
Speaker 1:Like it just is what it is Tough pill to swallow, because in other dude state's over two states over you can do whatever the fuck you want. Like you know what I'm saying. Like it gets kind of crazy in that scenario, but you have to understand, and there's a lot of people that'll bitch and complain about it and this and that, but, like, this is the area that you choose to live in. So if you don't want to do that, you can move at any point, and that goes for me too, you can move at any point. I can move the floor to tomorrow and I don't have to have any paperwork. I can just go get a handgun and call it a day. I actually want to do like tournament shooting. I want to do like the actual pistol tournament and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:I think it's fucking sick. It's a good time. So just in high school we would have. I was one of the rare schools I went to Limerick that we had a rifle club. It wasn't like a 22 rifle, it was like a pellet gun type rifle type thing. It was really cool. Yeah, I joined it. It was a lot of fun. I was really good at it. Then one day you go to Calverton love Calverton.
Speaker 1:Calverton school.
Speaker 2:Great, great gun range over there. Outdoor gun range, which is nice Nothing against the Garden City one but it's indoor. You should breathe in that shit. It's loud, it's very loud. That echoes it's a thunder clap man.
Speaker 2:So you go over there, you join a couple of rifle clubs you get better at and stuff like that too. So I would definitely do that, man. But to go back to the Crop McGuy, I think you should do that. I think that's your last piece because you have your weapon that's coming in soon. Hopefully you have your Brazilian Jujitsu, and then Crop McGuy is weapon defense. I'm telling you, just get a little taste of that, you be fine, yeah, I'm down, I'm down.
Speaker 1:I just I don't know. It's like the time, how much, cause like I go to the hit class in the morning, then I do Jujitsu either midday or in the evening. It's like in between there you gotta take care of the dog and fucking make money.
Speaker 2:No, yes, just to make money.
Speaker 1:Act. You're able to make money and do things. So it's just, it becomes a constraint of like it's another subscription, another monthly fee that you gotta just try to like don on yourself and then you spend the money on it. You go, oh fuck, I gotta use it, I gotta get it going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's pretty cool man yeah awesome.
Speaker 1:How's life been with you, bro?
Speaker 2:Everything's going well. Man, yeah, I've. I took around the two physical febriest that you had on here. I kind of can relate to them, cause you, maybe for the last couple of years you kind of get caught in that corporate wheel and stuff like that. Now, you know, I'm just kind of just trying to get my own cash practice together and stuff like that and I'm gonna be a cash practice. I'm like I don't want any type of storefront, I want to do like house calls and stuff like that. So I've been kind of getting that together. You know, still in the corporate world, trying to get out of that as soon as I can. But other than that, you know, I've been doing a lot of certifications.
Speaker 2:You know, maybe you can relate to this, this for the longest time. You know, I feel like if I was ever complacent I would feel a certain way. So I kind of summed it up in these, in this sentence, and that you know, like if there's ever a time where I'm not doing something to better myself or not even well, yeah, better myself both physically and mentally, but stress myself to be better, I'm, I am. I feel like I'm in this perpetual state of depression and boredom. Like that's really the best way I can say it.
Speaker 2:Like I'll give a perfect example when I was on the first podcast many, many moons ago, I told you I was getting my orthopedic specialization. I got that, you know. After that, you know, it's like one of those things where, like once I catch the bone like I don't know what to do with it, I'm like, what do I do now with this? Now, you know so. Then after that I got something called a T-Sack. It's a tactical strength and conditioning coach. It's pretty cool actually. So what that pretty much does is for people like military, police, fire department they all have their levels of activities that they need to do. You kind of coach them and things like that. Then after that I got my vertical specialization. Then after that I got my-.
Speaker 1:Which is really cool because it is I remember I don't know if you remember you had been vertical.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's going on with that by the way Good, good.
Speaker 1:Ironically, that was one of the things I was worried about with Jiu-Jitsu was the rolling around, yes, and the equilibrium and stuff like that. So years ago I was going to do Jiu-Jitsu and I just got nervous. I was like yeah, you had bad symptoms, man, yeah, bad symptoms. So it was crazy to me that I would, you know, I had my episodes and this and that. And then I did a one Jiu-Jitsu lesson with my buddy he's a black belt. He brought me down to Soka, down in what the fuck are they Wanto, Okay, Wanto area. So it's like I went down there and I rolled and as we're rolling, I'm just like, oh, these are like you get dizzy. I'm like so this you feel, you feel, you almost feel like you're having a vertigo episode.
Speaker 1:So I almost freaked myself out. So it's the mind you know, Of course. Of course you know nothing was wrong, but you just think you're like, oh, this is what I felt like when I was had vertigo. It's like, bro, you're just dizzy, just chill out, it's okay, You're gonna be okay. Of course, yeah, Even when we do the front rolls in class, we do front rolls, back rolls before to warm up. Yeah, Every time I do the front and the back rolls, you get a little dizzy and I just go get a little hiccup. So I think it actually helped me get over the fear of having vertigo Really Like how I de-sensitize yourself, or something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, trial by fire, so it's kind of crazy. There's a guy that recently had it and they had to do the treatments to rebalance the crystals in the year and everything like that.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, canaleth canaleth repositioning maneuver, because you have like these canals. I guess the way to say it in the medical is canaleth canal ITH. Canaleth Canaleth yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Chris Bumster podcast savage. So you do that to reposition the crystals, to put them back in their place. So I got that certification. Then I got my geriatric certification because it kind of looked you know, when you work with older, more mature people that are well seasoned, you know it kind of looks good on the resume to be like, oh you know, like he knows what he's doing a little bit better here, you know than the average guy, anything like a resume booster.
Speaker 2:So now I'm at this, you know this point in time where, like you know, again I caught the bone and I'm trying to like, I'm trying to zap myself out of like going for something else. I'm trying, I want to be complacent just for a little bit, you know, and like, enjoy these moments, because I found that in the past when I got a certification, I didn't enjoy it. You know, I enjoy those moments when I'm like, oh, you know, it feels good, I got this. You know, like, let's see what I can do with this. For a little bit I was like, oh, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:You know, like, let's go for the next one, so I'm trying to, I think that's just.
Speaker 1:That's just the life. That's just the life that we live, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:Well, it's like we live, you and I, yes, think about it, because people get very complacent very quickly, you know, yes, and yeah, I would agree I could give them a curse on them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would agree with that. I think I found that, you know, let's say, let's throw it back to the 90s, so not even that long ago, long, but not that long. Yeah, exactly. So it's like the 90s. There were tons of people that weren't entrepreneurs, that weren't working for themselves, that were cool with just going and doing the same job Like.
Speaker 1:My aunt was one of them. She worked at a magazine in the city. Every day was the same for her. It was Groundhog Day. Every day was the same. She'd wake up, take care of the kids, go into the city, drive to the train station, take the train in, come home super late, do it all again, all again, all again, all again.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people. I feel like now that people don't want to do that anymore. I don't know if it's post COVID type situation or if it's just in general. They've woken up. I think there's been a mass wakeup of everybody on a grand scale of things.
Speaker 1:I play it plays in part with a lot with COVID, but I find that it's more so on the people to checking the ingredients and things, people supporting small business versus going for all the big business, people thinking deeper into things. Why, what is the government doing to us? Why are they doing these things and who's allowing them to do this? Like, why are they unchecked, even though they say they're checked, which they're not? So I think that there's just a grand scale of people that just don't want to do the same thing every day, and I'm one of them. I can, even when I do this, even when I'm setting my fucking ways with the video stuff. If I have to come in every single day, sit at the computer, edit videos this and that, and I don't have any shoots lined up, it becomes monotonous.
Speaker 2:Of course.
Speaker 1:It's like if I don't shoot for a week or two because I'm backlogged on edits and I'm just sitting there editing, editing, editing, and even if I'm just getting my training in in the morning and I'm going to GG2 at night or whatever, and it starts to feel about Kenji needs his medicine at 8AM AP and it's like okay, we walk him right after it, then we feed him, then we go to the office, then we do this, then we go and walk him again and you look and you lay in bed after a long day and you just go, what the fuck did I? It's the same day over and over again. I feel like I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 2:It's that rat race man. It really is that nine to five wheel that you're like, oh my God, I'm doing this and that, and I think we talked about this before. But it's like that seesaw, you're here and you try to transition to your own way and that's what I'm doing. I'm here right now in the corporate world and I'm trying to slowly teeter myself into this side of what my own business and doing cash practice and all that jazz.
Speaker 1:So, no, it definitely comes down to that man, but what are the steps to get you to do your own thing?
Speaker 2:Well. So I like to put things on paper and make them levels, because if I don't see it on paper, or if I don't see it in my mind like I'm not I feel like I'm just shooting it in the air and hoping I'm gonna hit a duck one.
Speaker 2:You know, what I mean so right now. So pretty much what I'm doing is again I'm working in the corporate world, still have my old job and all that jazz, and what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to teeter this into working with athletes, working with geriatric patients for cash at home. So that's a pretty cool thing about it. What I also have kind of been doing is staying into the athlete world. So really cool thing that happened to me I was given the opportunity to work with the New York Giants Sick. So really cool stuff.
Speaker 2:So I call myself a medical auditor. Unfortunately it's not paid right now. So what are you gonna do? But it's a foot in the door and sometimes you gotta make some sacrifices.
Speaker 2:So pretty much what I do for the New York Giants is the strength and condition in coach. He comes to me. I go every four to six weeks to that area and they say listen, antonio, this guy over here he's peeked, or do you see that? What I see, like it looks like he's twinging his knee a little bit Like what do you recommend? And what I do is I gather the evidence of what I think it is or what I'm very confident is.
Speaker 2:I never know for certain, because you can't say like this is it? You have to give a recommendation. You can't just make everyone else look bad. You gotta be like well, this is what I think it is. Here is all of the research that shows oh, maybe his glutes aren't firing as well, so try this and you let me know what happens. So that's what I do. So it's pretty cool, man. And every, like I said, month to six weeks, I go to MetLife Stadium. I hang out in the locker room, I watch them train and stuff like that. I write down some things. They bring some things to my attention. I write down some other things, I watch them and from there I rinse and repeat. So that's a cool thing that I'm keeping myself into the athletic world. So it's pretty cool about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how's that been Working with the players? It's cool, it's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:You know what I feel like. A lot of people think that they train a different way. They don't. No, they train the same way that we do, nick. It's same periodization, it's same transition, it's same deloading weeks. It's the same exact thing. Maybe they're focusing on some different things on different weeks and they have the recovery the means to just have top-notch recovery.
Speaker 1:So the recovery is phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they got ice bats ice, cryo-thera chambers yeah, and they get to use it whenever the fuck they want man here. If I was a billionaire, I would 100% ever recover from my room 100%. But yeah, dude, there's no difference of what we do and what they do. Yes, they're giving better equipment to optimize their training efficiency better, of course they are. We're a product of what we have.
Speaker 2:If you have person A that's eating organic and having proper stretching and proper relaxation techniques and recovery techniques and then someone B that just trains and goes to bed, it's one of those things where, of course, they're gonna have a better efficiency and they're gonna have better optimization. But at the end of the day, man, they have a program, they do the program and they go. That's really it. So it's cool to see that even the greats are just like us. They just worked harder than us. They're working harder for it. So it gives you a cool idea of saying, like you know what anyone can be like that one day. Anyone can do it, as long as you just get down to the nitty gritty, the bread and bones, and you can kill it.
Speaker 1:It's cool. What's the favorite recovery tool out of all them? They love the massage gun. Massage gun, massages, massage guns. Yeah, yeah, massage gun. Send the check.
Speaker 2:Send the check baby. Well, yeah, so Ferragon, they use. They use Hyper-Ice, all that jazz. What's big nowadays is Hyper-Ice has like these what do you like better?
Speaker 1:Which brand Does it matter? Same shit, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, maybe I will say this different brands. So I have a cheap $20 Ferragon and then I have, well, a massage gun and then I have a $400 Ferragon. You know, I would say the difference is pretty much is the amount of pressure you can put into somebody, right? So what I mean by that is, let's say, I have like the, the cheap $20 one that I got from Amazon, right, I can push it into somebody that they want more pressure, but the gears will stop. It only has a 20 pounds per pressure push into somebody. Meanwhile Ferragon, I think, has 120.
Speaker 1:So you really can like get in there and it still is able to have the RPMs.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly correct. So that's the difference. People always say like, well, what's a better one? There really is no better one or worse one. It just comes down to what are you using for? If you're like a glutton for punishment, like I am, like when I get massages, I'm like, you know, like, go extreme hard on the back, you know, like I love that type of thing, beat me up, yeah, beat me up. Like that it's what I need. But if you're very gentle which is completely okay, cause I have clients where they're very, you know, sensitized skin and you really can't get away with a lot that 20 pounds of just gently going over back and forth, that's perfectly fine as well.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I need the pressure. I actually bought the chirp wheels. The chirp wheel have you seen those? No, but that's not it. I'll show you. I bought it. I didn't need the ones that are like foam rollers that pop your back and help you with the muscle tissue around that. Okay, okay, my whole thing is, I needed the neck piece that they just came out with to release the suboccipitals.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, oh, why you have to show me that Cause that's pretty cool, cause it's very hard without you know, like manual pressure and it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't replace that. Like I still.
Speaker 1:I still I'll tell you what, man. If I do a bunch of jujitsu and I don't do this at least once or twice a week, my neck is so tight and I start getting tension headaches.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, dude those tension headaches. There is a if somebody knows tension headaches over a regular headache and I know that's a very confusing thing to say, but I guess.
Speaker 1:So what would be the example that you'd give the for people to think about a tension headache?
Speaker 2:Exactly so.
Speaker 2:A tension headache is something that comes up and around over like this, while like a migraine is like behind the eye it's like right there and you're like you almost want to like get behind your eye and massage it and then pop it back in something like that. But but while you're looking that up, another thing that a lot of them like to use Hyper-Rice makes it it's pretty much like pressure leggings, so pretty much where it is, it's this big sleeve that you put on your legs. Oh, yeah, you put it on your legs and you lay there, yeah, and it's chambered, so chambered Hyper-Rice.
Speaker 1:And what's the other company that the gold standard company?
Speaker 2:I don't know the other company I, Hyper-Rice, has a really good mind. Well, I mean, it's like six hundred bucks. So if you can afford it, I would highly recommend it. It's really sick but it's pretty much chambered. So chamber one is in the foot. Oh, it is Hyper-Rice.
Speaker 1:It's Normatec.
Speaker 2:That's what it is oh.
Speaker 1:Normatec. Yes, that's what it is. It's made by them, I'm sorry. No, you're right about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is another name for that. Yeah, so that thing is sick. I love that thing and a lot of the players use that a lot.
Speaker 1:You find that it helps with like the blood flow and getting things back, or it?
Speaker 2:helps that with recovery of the lactic acid buildup. So that's Sorn's feeling that you get after oh, I know what this is that's where you lay your neck on, really yeah. And you find relief of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, got little nodules on it. It's got a couple different shape ones. There's like two nubs and then there's two longer diagonal like it's kind of like angled out inwards, and we usually lay on it like this I lay on it and I just, I, just I just put my head back and forth. I find that if I just lay on it it's like okay, but like if I really dig it into my neck, like I'll dig it in and I'll move it around and I'll use the different ones, I get relief. Man, I feel good. I'll just check that out. Yeah, the other ones, though, I don't love. I spent a hundred and something dollars on the other ones and they're like they, you know, they promised that I'd have some crazy back cracks and this and that nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what it's funny, like you know, with like technology coming out and this and that. You know, I went to a like a combined sections meeting for physical therapy the other day and there was like a debate. It was like you know, you know, do we think that technology is going to replace us? What's going to happen in the future? And at the end of the day, nah, man, you know, these things are fantastic. But, like you said, you know, getting in there, having somebody to just like find that good spot and just work it back and forth, that's, that's the same thing with AI and video editors.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like you know that's the big debate. It's like are we going to get replaced Like, dude, you still got to go out, you still got to shoot, you still have to have the creative eye. It's like AI is okay, maybe it'll replace a lot of jobs, but those are the jobs you didn't want anyway, exactly the jobs that people have no soul in it and they don't want that personal touch. It's cool, bro. Like go ahead to use the computer system and have a generic piece of content get pumped out left and right, whatever. All you motherfuckers keep hiring the same same lookalike videographers.
Speaker 2:Exactly Everything looks the same. It's wild man it became, you know, like the same thing, like a labicat yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've, I just wrote it down because I didn't know if we were going to be able to touch it right now. So, yeah, so I love that thing, the little chirp wheel neck. Yeah, speaking of recovery tools, have you seen the ad on Instagram yet for the bed of nails?
Speaker 2:Yes, I have seen the bed of nails.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's like what so?
Speaker 2:just pumping out anything now? Yeah, so the theory behind that is there is some type of soundness to it. It actually comes from acupuncture.
Speaker 1:So here it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me see what it is the bed of nails recovery. It's like all plastic nails right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, it's our QVC too. That's awesome. Nah, I'm looking for the one that the dude was talking about. Yeah, it was a very specific name that had me laughing. Yeah, my like shotty mat, or something like that.
Speaker 2:Something like that. Yeah, so while you're looking at it, so I'll tell you what pretty much like how that comes down to actually where it works. Shockty mat yeah.
Speaker 1:Shockty mats in the check. Shockty mats in the check.
Speaker 2:So there is actually some very mild yeah, mild evidence on that. So where I would recommend that is this. So the theory behind this is that we live in a very you know, if you have a stressful life or something like that, our central nervous system you do. I'm stressed for life. I know who doesn't right. It doesn't even New.
Speaker 1:York. I have a stressful life. I'm smiling and looking at the camera.
Speaker 2:I have a stressful life. So you know, our central nervous system gets heightened and that causes problems and stuff like that. So it's really a central nervous system desensitization, Okay.
Speaker 1:So I actually what happens when I get used to the bed of nails Exactly Correct. So I got to buy the next bed of nails. We got to get the razor sharp nails now.
Speaker 2:You know. So the it's made out of lionfish. I actually use that in one person. You use that thing, yes, but I'll tell you it's a very specific niche. So, unfortunately, what could happen in the world is that, like when you get injured, there are these very specific points where there are a bunch of nerves and if you hit that bunch of nerves in the correct spot, something called CRPS comes up, which is chronic regional pain syndrome, and what that means is that the body doesn't know what's going on and it hits all the red flags to say, hey, listen, we're just going to hit this with everything we got. It's going to be insanely painful and the problem that happens is that if you don't nip it in the butt really, really quickly, the body keeps it for a very long time Two, three, even four years. So I give a perfect example.
Speaker 2:I had a patient many, many moons ago. He was a FedEx driver. He fell off the FedEx truck. He hit his knee, like on, like a, like an angle, like right there, like such a bad spot, and of course, where it was, where the swelling occurred, was this group of nails you have your saphenous and all that jazz on the knee and he got chronic regional pain syndrome. So the way that you do it is you have to desensitize the central nervous system somehow some way so you can do really really extra painful ways like taking sandpaper and rubbing it on that area. It's a terrible sensation. All what you can do is what we did, and it did provide relief, which was pretty nice. We took something like that and we just wrapped it around his leg and we just put pressure on it and we did that for around 20 minutes to a half an hour and that's the only research that shows that that helps.
Speaker 2:How many sessions did that take? A while? Yeah, like probably like 20 to 30 sessions. The good thing it was it just didn't just turn off. It got better and better over time. It's still lingered, because the body always has to go through that process, but it was enough that he was able to function appropriately. So that's the only time I've ever used something like that. Like if you're asking me like hey, should I use it? I don't know. I buy the bed of nails, it's time to be up for Black Friday.
Speaker 1:It's up to you. You know I'm just gonna be laying there naked in my apartment just talking on the bed of nails. What the fuck's going on?
Speaker 2:in this room Psycho style, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1:Desensitize, Desensitize, leave me alone. Desensitize things. All right time to flip Whoop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if you ever wanna try something, what that go for. You know it's not gonna cause anything crazy. But yeah, that's the only time I had experience with that, which was a very unicorn like neurological patient, which was very challenging. So fortunately it worked out for me.
Speaker 1:The bumps and bruises with Jiu-Jitsu I find to get different weird sensations.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And I keep feeling my left knee on the inside like he feeling like not pain but tight, because I've been locked on that a couple of times. Yeah, yeah, of course. And the other thing that I have is I got taken down, probably about a month ago. It's finally better, but it's still tight here and there. I got to take kid, couldn't get me down, couldn't get me down. I kept stuffing his arm every time he tried it, like we both had colortize on each other over the top. I was holding with right right, he was holding with his left Colortize and he kept trying to come across me and I kept stuffing his arm, stuffing his arm Really. So finally he double shot underneath, took me down completely, which was great move, it was phenomenal.
Speaker 1:The issue was I landed on my back, which was fine, but my leg, my left leg, my right leg, I kind of landed on my side. My left leg was totally bent like this, totally bent, and my foot hit the mat, totally flush, and then like bounced off from the ricochet of it, so like ever since then my left knee it's not even the knee, I was Nick and Scott think it was my hamstring Behind it, just when I, it doesn't hurt at all. But if I bend it in totally and I touch my calf to my hamstring or I squat down all the way super, super low like astagrass, that's when I feel a little bit of discomfort on that back left area of the knee, like I feel it.
Speaker 2:So the back of the knee is like the lower back of like the leg. There is so many things that go into there. You have three muscles already that are coming from your hamstring. You have your semi-tendonus, the memoris and the bicep femoris, long edge, short head, all those that go into there. Then you have the muscles from the calf, I'm sorry, from the shin. So you have your calf, you have your peronials, you have this muscle that's the popliteus, that walks the knee right there. So the back of the knee is a pain in the ass. To really go into a decipher you really need some time. I'm sure that the other physical therapist has done this well, but you really have to kind of just sift through one muscle at a time.
Speaker 1:I haven't. Ever since then, I haven't gone to them yet for that, yeah, I would definitely check that out.
Speaker 2:What's interesting enough is that if you have, if you have a problem with it during deep, deep flexion, that would make me kind of believe Depending, depending, depending, yeah. So bending it all the way, like, let's say, if you're laying on this table, I would bring the back of my heel to my butt right, yes, that's when I feel it, or in deep squat you feel it.
Speaker 1:But when I first felt, it was when it was overextended.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, so that kind of leads me to one or two things. It could be either meniscul, which you know it doesn't really sound like that.
Speaker 1:I'm running and I'm grappling multiple times a week and it's not stopping me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, yeah, or it could be some type of mobility issue, meaning that when you hit your leg off of the mat and it has that bounce, right, yeah, it could have. Just I don't wanna say like subluxury joint or anything like that, because that's not really what it is, but it probably it probably over extended it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So what it could have done is the, you know, the kinematics of movement could have been altered in a way, and that's a good situation, because all you gotta do is kind of just kind of got to manipulate it back in the other way.
Speaker 1:And when I say manipulate, I'm not talking about like ha you know, like that, it's more like yeah, chop it right in.
Speaker 2:Just like move it around a little bit and stuff like that. But definitely let them look at that. It's pretty cool, yeah. Why don't you look at it?
Speaker 1:I'll look at it. I'll look at it right now, All right guys. So so today we're gonna cut to a commercial break.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's cool man, but yeah, so to kind of bring it all back, that's what my big claim to fame is right now the New York Giants thing, which is pretty sick.
Speaker 1:And-. So what does that blossom into? Do you know? Does it blossom into individual player work? Does it, you know, working on individual players, Are you able to cultivate relationships with them like that?
Speaker 2:So the cool thing about it is I've been able to cultivate relationship and talk with them and stuff like that. You know, obviously there's an NDA so I can't tell you who it is, I can't post or anything like that. So that's like the unfortunate part about it. I would love to be like you know, like this, that that you know. So hopefully it blossoms into something more, maybe assistant strength and conditioning coach, because I've worked with him already.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you know, I had Joe Giacobi on the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yes, I do, that was very cool. Joe is the shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, Joe is a jet strength and conditioning coach.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes, yes. The strength and conditioning coach that I work with now is. His name is Craig Fitzgerald. Great guy. He just, you know, got there from Texas. It's the second year doing it, so it's pretty cool. So what could that do? You know? Honestly, I would love to be get paid for what I do.
Speaker 1:You know I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2:Like, I have one of my mentors mentors, he is doing what I do for the Carolina Panthers. So he's the name that he has. It's like the director of medical sciences, something like that, and pretty much what he's doing is what I'm doing. You know, an injury happens. You know, like you're the quarterback, nick, oh, my goodness. Oh, you know. Perfect example Daniel Jones. Right, you know he Was it a neck injury for him? No, he had an ACL tear. Oh, he had an ACL tear. Yeah, he's out for the season now. I mean, that's public knowledge, I can talk about that. So he's out.
Speaker 2:So, pretty much what they what my mentor's mentor, rob, he does for the Carolina Panthers is. They come to me like, listen, rob, like this guy's fucked up now, like, what do you do? How long do you think it's gonna take for this ACL to get better? Same thing, what it'll do is it'll do all the research. Be like all right, listen, you know he has X, y and Z. He's an elite athlete. This is what I recommend. I recommend six months back onto the field, additional three months. He'll be killing it once again, you know. So that's what he does.
Speaker 2:I would love to do that. You know that's the goal to. You know, have that type of benefit, that'd be really, really sick. But at the moment, you know, just kind of get my, my bread and butter Baking your bones, Exactly correct. You know, not trying to step on any toys or anything like that. You know I'm just a shadow over here. You know, if you need me listen, I'll be watching from far. Give me somebody to watch. You'll be like, okay, there he is, watch. You know watch Kenji. Oh, you know, see, like how does he do a pivot? Or when he shoots up, like what do you think? And I'll be like, yeah, listen, this is what I think, this is what the research shows.
Speaker 1:Here's a packet boom, Let me know what you think If opportunities arise for you to do something.
Speaker 2:Oh, I would love that man, you know, I mean that's probably gonna be down the line, you know, because you know You're a young dude. Yeah, exactly correct, You're definitely excited.
Speaker 1:So I'm, I'm excited about that, but that's the issue. We think that we need to have that shit and do get it going right now.
Speaker 2:It's like you know, yeah man, Social media makes us look like that you know, it's like if you're not getting, you're not a millionaire right now, you're not doing a right. It's like, dude, like what am I doing?
Speaker 1:So I frequently browse the Reddit forums for money. Really, yeah, there's a money forum. Okay, They'll give it financial advice, Okay, cool. So one of my favorite things is, just like you'll see, these astronomical claims of you know people are fucking lying. No, of course they are. It's like dude says, 20 years old, 600,000 in the bank. What should I invest in? It's like the fuck. So like people started posting real things. So it's like $1.86 in the savings account.
Speaker 2:No, seriously, man. You know, it's true, though I would not, I would not try to say anyone behind the keyboard. You know I really would. Maybe 10% of the people would be like you know, if you show me something that's cool and I'll definitely check it out, kenji, come here Smelling the Snickers.
Speaker 1:Come here, man Go over here, leave him alone. There's fucking tail goes.
Speaker 2:Come over here. Come over here.
Speaker 1:Come here, fathead Stretching out, hey, buddy, but yeah, I wouldn't trust anybody.
Speaker 2:I want to see tangible proof. Yeah, I'm not buying anything.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna hit him on my DMM on the side. Yo, let's go to the ATM together. Let me check that balance. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2:Especially as I get older man. You know like I value time so much, nick.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what I've done. I started doing as a businessman and time wise is, I used to never pay myself. What do you mean? Since I've opened my company, I've never paid myself. Oh, I've never paid myself. I've never given, I've never taken like the money's in my business account. I use it for the business generally and, yeah, my rent and stuff like that. I pay it all out of business. I've never taken that money and given it to myself, like in my savings account, to be able to start using it and accruing it and investing it in different ways. Because for a long time I just didn't really know that I was supposed to do that. I guess I just kind of just money came into the business account, I just sat there and I was like, okay, cool, I'll use it for paying off this card and buying this piece of equipment and this and that. So, like now, since July, I started paying myself and I'm like every job that comes in, I'm doing the benefits. Every job that comes in 20%, 20%.
Speaker 2:Good, yes, do you do the 50, 30, 20?
Speaker 1:rule, nope, but I just oh.
Speaker 2:I was so excited I thought you did it.
Speaker 1:I know roughly about it, but I don't. You should do that. It's really helpful. I don't practice it like that. I should. There's a lot of things that I need to do. You know. You said the CSOT method. It's like I prioritize my health so much. The last eight months.
Speaker 2:You're always looking at me. I'm like go. What's the good problem? You wanna make a move.
Speaker 1:You got a problem, don't worry about it. I prioritize my health so much that, like my business not failed or started having problems, but I just wasn't focusing as much on getting new clients and I was kind of just like staying complacent. I was like whatever, like I'll just do my same shoots and blah, blah, blah. But it's like now I'm kind of evening it out. Now, now my, now that the office is here, it's like the business is coming back up and I'm trying to keep everything just nice. And even so, I have to get on my personal finance game. I pay off a ton of fucking cards that I had. And it's not that I don't have the money, I just I didn't wanna take huge chunks out of my business account. I was just like I'd like to keep it as a very, very two year worth of nest egg of just like God forbid something happens. I have the abilities and the means to just keep paying things and this and that, and I'll fuck that card, I'll pay that off later.
Speaker 1:But then it's like you start looking and you're like you get in with interest every month and you're like I'm like, why am I getting fucked over here? I'm like, why am I paying $2,000 here? But it's like the balance is back up. Why is it back up? Oh well, you use it at the grocery store you used to hear, and then the interest to hit, and then it's like you're right back to where you way worse than where you started a month ago. So it's like that is how people get into fucking bad debt. Yeah, man, yeah. So recently I just said fuck it, dude. I started taking out five $6,000 chunks. Real quick, here you go, five grand to you, five grand to you, five grand to you. Bring it down, bring it down. And now I'm feeling like to breathe a little bit, but then it's like I paid off all my debts.
Speaker 1:That new microphone looks kind of nice for $800. No, it wasn't, man. You know you buy one thing and you just go fuck the cards back up.
Speaker 2:It's true, man. You know it's really easy to get into debt and stuff like that I mean you buying fucking bed and nails and shit. Yeah, expensive out here. It's for the patients. You know what I mean For the patients.
Speaker 1:Tax write off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, tax write off. What were you using for it? Laying naked in my apartment, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2:I mean Mr Johnson, no, I mean we have clothes on.
Speaker 1:I swear yeah, Don't take my license.
Speaker 2:I forgot who said it on the podcast. He had such a cool comment, I think he said idle hands is the devil's workshop. Yeah, who said that?
Speaker 1:I don't know I cranked him out. I do, I cranked him out the last right when I moved my office. But it's true, you know I cranked him out, but it's and I started talking to so many people that people would go. You know, just listen to this podcast, I go. What did I say? I just want to make sure I said everything that was okay. You know, this was like. This was probably like a year and a half ago, like that.
Speaker 2:It was one of the bodybuilders that interviewed. Okay, yeah, maybe it was Carith man, I don't know man. I'm sorry, but it was a really cool quote. He also said he had like a really lot of nice quotes. He said also it's a cold world, but I want to control my temperature. Oh, it's dry. Yeah dude, that was a really cool quote.
Speaker 1:Look at.
Speaker 2:Andre I, if he's listened to this man, I would. I would recommend him just making a book of all his quotes and I would just fucking read that yeah, it's cold, but I'm gonna control the temperature. Dude, that was such a cool thing. Like holy cow, that fucking hits really hard yeah.
Speaker 1:Dre's the line king. He just like throws him out.
Speaker 2:He's got nothing right, he's trying to fucking bar that guy. I hope he kills it with those lines, man Damn. But. But yeah, as I got an older in life man like time really has been very valuable to me I'm gonna tell you a very brief, depressing story. I do apologize, we'll bring it right back into it. So during COVID.
Speaker 1:I know for those that are listening I mean you can't see on the video anyway. Kenji's behind me just having a tantrum. He's just tight, he's just like yo. You've been out all day, you've been at jujitsu. Now we're sitting here doing a podcast. Hang out with me, take me out. I want to piss on shit, exactly.
Speaker 2:So go on, I'm sorry, no, no, it's gonna be okay. So so, during COVID and stuff like that, my mom recently got diagnosed with multiple myeloma. So you know she has good days and bad days.
Speaker 1:What is that? I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:No, it's gonna be okay. So multiple myeloma in essence is there's a bone in your body that's creating cancerous plasma cells.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it spreads right. So the good thing is, if you nip it in the butt and you find the bone, you can, you know.
Speaker 1:Do it like a bone transplant or a marrow transplant. Well, you could do that.
Speaker 2:If it gets to a bad level, what you do is you do chemo and radiation kind of zap the spot. So that's what my mom's kind of going through right now.
Speaker 1:Not to cut you off and throw you off, but have you seen the South Korea study?
Speaker 2:I don't know how legit it is.
Speaker 1:They have a machine that'll actually just zap the cancer without chemo.
Speaker 2:That's wild.
Speaker 1:No, chemo.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Zap the cancer. I was definitely looking for it Right at the source. You can send me that link. I would love to see that. Don't know where I saw it. Yeah, I'm gonna look right now. Hold on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's okay Before you continue. Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1:Hold on one second. What are your South Korea?
Speaker 2:South Korea cancer treatment maybe Cancer zapper?
Speaker 1:Yeah, cancer zapper, cancer laser.
Speaker 2:Yo don't hit my tripod Kenji look at that, look at that sass.
Speaker 1:Come here, stay over here. That's a sass, Don't bargain him. Proton therapy, the new face of cancer treatment Visit Korea. Is that?
Speaker 2:maybe it. I'll check that out.
Speaker 1:Proton therapy makes sense. Korea's speclips lands eight million for real time cancer diagnosis with laser. Damn, okay, Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll definitely look into this more. I was not aware of that at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just to give like a little bit of sorry to cut you off what's my head. Just to give a little bit of a substance, if this is what it is the non-invasive screening for cancer. So this is a screener Okay, this is supposed to be one that zaps it. Startup company in Korea spec clips. It's like spec and then it clips combined Okay. A startup company in Korea with a laser-based approach to rapid screening for the most dangerous form of skin cancer has closed a round of venture funding worth 7.7 million. That's not what I was talking about, but I'll have to find it.
Speaker 2:Please do, I will send it to you.
Speaker 1:Please continue. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:No, it's completely okay. So I guess the reason why time has been like so valuable to me in looking at stuff like that is because of that, right you know. So that happened. I'm not even a dose, he's not even a dose. Fuck that, don't I wanna hear this story. That's what he is doing. So that's what pretty much happened. So from there you know, my mom is on medication. She has good days and bad days. She really just depends on stuff like that. So I kind of like you know, help her out with hospice and all that jazz.
Speaker 1:And now he's got it.
Speaker 2:And so this is how kind of like my life kind of turned a little upside down a little bit with time. So I would work a corporate job and do 40 hours, then I would do home cares, which was additional 20 to 30 hours to make money to help pay the bills for the medicine. I would wanna be with my mom, so, but then I need to make money to help my mom. But I wasn't able to be with my mom because I had to make money and I was in this really fucking depressing cycle that I was like I don't know what to do now, like I'm getting stressed, I'm losing time with my mom, like what do I do? So that really, you know she's doing well right now, thank God. So you know things going okay with that, you know. But it's one of those things where you know when one medicine works, it'll work for a while and then it won't, and then I have to go to another medicine and that you know it's more expensive because, like his epilepsy, exactly correct. That's a perfect example of that.
Speaker 2:So I was really stuck into, like you know, I was getting like raped of time. That's like the best way, and I know it's a derogatory way of saying, but that was the best way of saying. I was getting, you know, ripped away from time with my mom because I had to make money for my mom and so on and so forth, and you know, so that's really how I valued time. So now it's one of those things where you know, I would rather pay, you know, amazon Fresh to give me the groceries, to spend extra one hour doing X for my mom, or something like that, and so on and so forth. So that really gave me an all-encompassing idea on how valuable time really comes.
Speaker 2:I come to the point where I would absolutely rather spend double to the triple amount of money for a service to come to me to spend time with family, rather than going out, going to freaking King Kong or wherever it is. Oh, you know the beans. Oh no, I'm not looking for this, I'm looking for something else. Gotta go to here. And they have spent an hour or two, even with laundry. You know like I'll send laundry out now because it's gotten to the point where I value time so much that I'd rather spend more to have what I want to do with my mom. So it comes out to that. Yeah, so that's how I got it, yeah.
Speaker 1:I agree because yo I'll fuck my car up. I agree because I sent my laundry out for numerous reasons. Number one the jujitsu stuff gets funky. Yeah, I mean, it gets funky.
Speaker 1:We can roll around on the mats If you don't wash it within a day. Oh, it smells bad. Oh, and it like it's like it's like venom, it like goes up to your other clothes and starts like infecting them. The fuck, this shirt now smells like jujitsu. So I send and I don't have a washer dryer in my apartment, so I send out to laundry mats all the time. Sometimes I'll give it to my mom. She'll do it stuff like that, which I appreciate, but it's like I don't always get to her, so I'd rather just do that. I actually was having this debate with a buddy of mine for, like, instacart.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because that's another service like for groceries. Yeah, exactly correct yeah, I'm on board for it and I'm cool with it. But then I look and I'm like there's no way that I'm spending almost 300 dollars on groceries.
Speaker 2:It's expensive there's no way.
Speaker 1:What is the markup on this? I need to know 100%. But I agree with you in terms of, like, saving time and being able to justify it, and that's also how you get to the place of charging more for your clients. Exactly correct. Yeah, you know your time is valued at X, but we have to. Did he just throw the toilet in it?
Speaker 2:He's like motherfucker, I can't play with it.
Speaker 1:Give me this fucking doubt I'm so needy today.
Speaker 1:I can't play with you right now, thank you. You know you get to the point where you're just like this job that I used to charge $500 for, it's like now there's a $1,200 job, a $1,000 job. I can't sit here and do the same work for that price and, just like you have to be okay with that, because now you're gonna get a different caliber of client over time, because the original clients that you start working with you're like, oh shit, like I'm losing some of the old clients, but it's like the new guard comes in and everybody else. It just works out like that. So you know, with time especially, that's super important for you and your field, of course yeah, no, and I'll tell you a crazy thing on how.
Speaker 2:On how, this was a very big, eye-opening thing. So I had two jobs, you know, the 40 hour and then the side hustle as well. So I went to the side hustle. I said, listen, you know, no offense to you guys, but I'm in a situation right now that I need more money. You know I do. I need to make more because my mom, you know, I gave them the spiel. I said listen, my mom is sick. You know, like I need money for X, y and Z. I really do. So this was crazy. This was an eye-opening thing to me and I'll forever remember how I do this because this changed the way I work. Now they said like, listen, you know we can't, you know I'm really sorry, we can't. I said listen, you know I'm gonna leave if you don't do this. So they said you know, give me a moment.
Speaker 2:While I was there, there was a student that was working in there. They came out of the office. They said, let's say, her name is Karen. Karen, come here real quick. They spoke to her, they gave her the job and they said listen, we're gonna have to let you go. Then I couldn't believe that I worked so hard. You're fucking replaceable For this company.
Speaker 2:I was put in three years. I've sacrificed things that I regret indefinitely, to the stage of the day that I die of things with my mom and dad and my sister and all that jazz, and they replaced me in 20 minutes. They don't give a fuck about you. So now it's one of those things where you know what and I'm in a little bit of a bitterness right now. I'm getting out of the bitterness, thank God, Because another quick story I went to Catholic school.
Speaker 2:I went to religion class. I prayed for enemies, nick. I prayed for people that I fucking hated, that did such wrong to me in life, and I was like betrayed. I felt like I was betrayed from God. I was like God, you kidding me right now. Like I hoped for people that harmed my family, for them to be better, and you fuck me like this. How fucking dare you do that? I was so annoyed about it. I get like choked up just thinking about it right now.
Speaker 2:And I'm getting out of that bitterness because that kind of ignited like such anger with me and stuff like that over the whole situation. And you can't be angry all the time. You can't, because that eats at you. It really does. That's a cancer in its own, it is. I'll tell you another thing about that after this. So now my motto is this you know like you know to stay under the radar, to do what you're paid to do and go home. Yeah, you know, there's the other day they're like hey, holiday pay, you want to do extra hours? No, I don't, I want to go home with my mom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to go chill, I want to be able to have my alone time, I want to have my time at the apartment. You know that was something that I used to let clients take advantage of me left and right. And you know, I had a client that I worked with for a long time, and it's not so much. I have to be careful of my wording because I don't want this to seem like a lot of people are going to know because I've talked to them about it. But, like I don't want this to seem like animosity, because it isn't, I truly don't care, like I really don't care. So it's a client that I've worked with for a long time and you know, the person that hired me wasn't the client, so it was the manager. So I would deal with the manager, and the manager was the one that would set the shoots up, set this and that like, oh, you're going here with him, you're doing this, you're doing that, great, cool.
Speaker 1:And you know there was a lot of trips that I took that were not planned properly Of course, that were last fucking minute. I'm sure I'm in that were you sacrificed a lot. Hey, you're going to go on a flight tomorrow. Meanwhile, it's like we've had two months to plan for this. Like, why do I have to take this flight? Like why couldn't I have taken a more convenient flight during the time, you know? And just things were not planned properly and you know, the most recent one was Easter. It's like I left Easter with my family. It's insane, man. Yeah, could be my last grand-, my grandma's last Easter. Yeah, no, you're right, I left Easter to go on a trip. Where the fuck did I go? I remember where I went. It was international. I just don't remember where I went. I was out of the States. Oh, I remember where I went. Yeah, if I say it's going, to get Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1:So it's like you know what? It's not that I'm transparent about everything. It's just like it's not even worth the conversation of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah exactly so it's, like you know, international leaving on Easter get taking an Uber from my aunt's house to Sacrificing family time JFK to then now sit on the flight for 12 hours and then be a fucking slave for a week and then come back on a shit flight again and then, just you know, right back into life. And I was cool for a long time. You know there's a lot of videographers that come into the industry. They stay for two years, they whore themselves out, they do everything. Oh, I took some of this person's clients I'm working with this, who this person used to work with and then they're tired of getting whored out. They realized that they're not making the money that they thought they were going to make and it's really their own fault because they didn't charge.
Speaker 1:After a certain amount of steps, you have to up the fucking price. You have to up your game because you, theoretically, are buying Sorry, I spit on you. You're theoretically buying Ugh and you're Go on. You're buying more gear, you're getting better, you're able to do things faster, you're learning different things. You know you should be charging more as you go on.
Speaker 1:But to these dudes they get too set into like I'm charging this rate and they let the people that we're working with overstep their boundaries. Hey, can I get another edit for the same price? Hey, can I get the raw footage hey, can I get this, can I get that? And they just go fuck it, like with the thought process of I'm going to work with this person continuously, forever. Nah, bro, they don't give a fuck about you, because that same client that I work with he's already working with a different video guy.
Speaker 1:And guess what? Pfft, god bless him. Oh, my God, pfft, enjoy, dude. Like I truly couldn't be bothered anymore, cause it was like that point of do I want to keep getting disrespected? Do I want to keep dealing with shit like that, biting my tongue, sitting there, being undervalued for the amount that I'm given Exactly? If I want to keep doing that, then it's cool. Then you just keep going. Or do you just allow the next chapter to come in, where I'm doing a lot of corporate stuff? Now, corporate stuff is fucking mint, let me tell you. Oh, I'm sure, oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:I want to say what some people's three months worth of salary is one day of work. If that I had a job, that I went down to Philly, job in Philly, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Philly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, philly, it's a great job, fantastic job. Went down to Philly, filmed for, I want to say, a consecutive 30 minutes Consecutive. I was there for five hours, five hours. I was there for I was there. I got there at 1130. I left by. I left by 445. I was in the car driving back. The traffic was worse, I know it was longer than the actual shoot. I'm sure 30 minutes of collective footage if that. And it was like a crazy job. It was like one contract for the month, Like that's how much it was Good for you, man, and I just was like this is great. Yeah, no, it is. This is great.
Speaker 1:I don't have to run around an expo and whore myself out and do they? I'm like, wow, this is a fucking awesome. So it's like is it boring? Oh, without question, is it? Is it like hard? No, not even a little bit. Like I even told the woman there. I said this is like I'm used to having a. I'm used to having a film for like 17 hours straight and then having to edit the entire day as a vlog that we released the next morning, the next day, exactly. Yeah, I go. Wow, this is great. I said please keep calling me.
Speaker 2:And they loved it, it was.
Speaker 1:it was actually. I didn't sign anything so I can talk about it. It was actually for the Ozympic drug maker.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, Ozympic. I know it's epic. That's really cool.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh, they're interviewing doctors, that's cool, they're doing new studies. So I was like, oh, this is beautiful. I said, please, please keep calling me.
Speaker 2:Let me type in this is the thing I know is the medical field they have bottomless book.
Speaker 1:I brought the lights. I brought the lights. I had multi-camera setup. I said let me spritz this up for y'all. Y'all are going to take care of me.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take care of you. You want some water? Yeah, anybody. I put a maid outfit on.
Speaker 1:Anybody Fluffer, anybody want fluffing?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's just you know, you have to start taking these things into consideration. Where am I valued most? You're right, and once again, having a job like that. For me that's one day of work, one day of work, and then the next day I edited and it took maybe six, seven hours to get the interviews polished up and this and that. Yeah, so let's say, two days of work, two days of work from what somebody would normally take to make in two months.
Speaker 1:That's awesome dude, and that's not both, and I know you don't think that I have to reiterate this for people that are listening. That is not a boast. That is something to get you excited about what you can make To do yeah, what you could, the potential of earnings that you'd be able to do Like that. There's so much money that just goes unaccounted for and people are willing to spend it. You just have to show them that I can deliver what you need fast, efficiently, quality. You could do all of this and I'll do it all for you. This is what it costs and the people that are serious. They'll be like here's my money, please take it. They're not going to be the ones that are going to hound you, like the other editors that I know. They're not going to be the ones that are go. After you send it to them, they go hey, can we change the music? Can we do this? Can we do that? Hey, can I just take this out? My chin doesn't look good here.
Speaker 2:They're not going to do that.
Speaker 1:They're not going to do that. Those real clients are just going to be like how much is it? Let's just say 10 grand. You're right, 10 grand, great, here you go. We'll see you on the date to shoot Done, no fucking headaches, no bullshit, easy going.
Speaker 2:You're right, man, it's true, and that's something that I've learned through that hard time that I was in. Like to go back to what I was saying, I was very like, just angry at the whole situation and stuff like that. And what I learned is is to how to value yourself. And I'll give you an example. These two quotes really resonate with me and it comes from Batman. Batman begins, so Raz El Ghul is talking to Batman. He's like you have to be very careful because anger is a great emotion, but it can also lead to terrible things that you do to yourself. So you have to be very careful with that. And that goes into another quote that I understood that really resonated with me as well. He goes some type of psychologist said this he goes the emotion that loves you the most is anger, and I'm like what are we talking about? Like, that's like anger is a big deal. He goes well, anger, when you get angry, you're. So I tried to say I want to hear this.
Speaker 1:I tried so hard to put that together. I'm sorry guys.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, no, say it, oh yeah, so they bring it back. So anger is the emotion that loves you the most, and the reason why is because whenever you're angry or something like that, you know that's your body and your mind saying like, listen, you know this happened because they didn't do this, or you know you should do better, or something like that. You know so whenever that, that was when I heard that it all made sense to me. Those three years of you know, you know my mom's still alive, thank God.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying like those three years of having, you know, that anger, that animosity to the big man up top of you know why this happened and all that jazz as well, as there's something that I've kind of figured out and why you know silver linings happen is because when that happened, when the job let me go and all that jazz, I found out how to value myself both financially and non-financially. You know, like what makes me feel good. You know yoga, meditation, this, and that that brings the body down a little bit, as well as how much I really am worth. You know, when I saw, looking back on that job and how much that I was paying, you kidding me, I have, you know not to boast or anything like that, but the amount of credentials that I've had, you know. If I were to tell you what I was getting paid, you'd be like, are you fucking kidding me? Like that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:And he's on the dollar.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So going through all that, going through what happened with my mom, it really kind of enlightened me on who I am, what all these emotions kind of mean and what I'm worth. And you know what it really worked out it's. There's a really cool quote. It goes um, uh, um, it goes.
Speaker 2:Cancer is nephrous to life, and what that pretty much means is is that and this is something that blows my mind too is that before my mom got cancer, I wasn't living right. You know, I just had the nine to five job, and once I found out that my mom, you know, has this and you know she might die, and all that jazz, we started to live. So it was a weird situation where you have to know that either you're going to die or someone you love is going to die to live. It's such a wild backwards way of thinking and I'm very fortunate enough to know this at such a young age, cause who knows, I might have like a midlife crisis or something like that at 50 years old. I already had one. Yeah, right, seriously, I had one. And then you start to live and it's one of those things where now you know where the value is it's time, it's family, it's love, it wants people to support you, and the cancer kind of did that. It was nephrous to life, meaning that you know, now that you know you're dying, you're going to live. You know.
Speaker 2:I think there's another saying in Japan, I forgot what it is, but it goes after death you live. Pretty much means like when you know you're going to die, you live. So that's what it was. So it really helped out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, once you realize that there's a clock ticking, now you have a limited amount of time, a limited amount of weekends, a limited amount of everything, like you'd start to realize that I have to take these things more seriously.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you know, I have family members who will say, like, why don't you invite random girls over and this, and that you know I love my cause. Like he means it from what you know what I'm saying, like he means it from love. He's not trying to be a dick, he's just trying to be like yo, I got, why don't you, why don't you invite these girls over that you see in town, or blah, blah, blah. And I just go because I'm just not interested. If I'm going to, if I know I have a limited amount of time left, like just in general as a whole, like I don't need to spend it with randoms and you know, getting laid or do that I just it did not worth it to me that energy exchange isn't clean and whatnot. Yeah, right, make sure he doesn't fucking step on the, on the cables, all right, yeah.
Speaker 2:Cause I know, I know that I think it was that.
Speaker 1:So it's like I would rather spend those nights by myself playing Xbox, hanging with the dog, having Tyler or you or anybody over that. I'm just going to have good dialogue and hang out and have fun and it's just like. You know, maybe that keeps me single longer, maybe that, maybe that inhibits my ability to find a girl and stuff like that, but at the same time it safeguards my energy. That's what I'm big on. Of course I'm big on safeguarding that energy. I always was more so even now. Like I just I can't handle the fakeness. I can't handle the people that use other people for their time. You know just the the energy suckers and energy vampires is the best term for them. It's just like I just I don't want that type of stuff around me. I'd rather keep my time to the teeth.
Speaker 2:For you, for you, it's your time, your time, your time, yeah.
Speaker 1:Podcasts After this. Today I have some edits that I need to do, but I'm going to start them tomorrow. Yeah, I'm going to do them tomorrow because tomorrow's Monday. I'm going to enjoy one more day where I get to play PlayStation, play Call of Duty, hang out with the dog, this and that. Like just I want to just chill. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done having to, like my mom said, dinner with grandma at 5.30. Maybe I'll go to that. Like I want to be able to just do things that make me happy.
Speaker 1:I don't want to just be a slave to the system, a slave to the phone. I don't really. I try not to consume content on the phone anymore. I've said it on multiple podcasts. I really don't. It's even it. Do you fuck with my backdrop? I think it did. He always fucks with my back. Can you just stop? I know you want to go out. I know we're going to go out in a few. Thank you, I'm a producer of content. I'm not somebody that's gonna consume it. Like there are certain people that I'll like.
Speaker 1:They pop up all the time and it's like one or two of the quick quote you know stories and whatnot that I'll watch, but after a couple I have to nope, get the fuck off the app because it's just too much. And then five seconds turns into three minutes, three minutes turns into 20 minutes, 20 minutes turns into an hour, an hour turns into three and you're just, all of a sudden you're just like wow, I'm just we're wondering why our attention span and just life is just whizzing by us. It's like I sat here looking at this metal glass device, just with my thumb, moving like this, just a fucking zombie zombie. That's why the fasting is good. Yeah, yo, get away from there. That's why the fasting is good. The fasting just resets the brain, it resets the stomach. You know, we were gonna touch on that, tyler and I decided I've done a lot of 16-8, 16-hour fast, eight hours eating window. Not religious, I'm not like every single day I just do it here and there.
Speaker 1:Then I started experimenting with every time I'd have a cheat meal back in the day with bodybuilding, I'd have a cheat meal and my body would just get blown out holding a ton of water, feeling like shit, feeling lethargic, as in that, for the next two or three days. But then it's like two or three days and then all of a sudden it's like couple of days of clean eating again and I'm back to eating another cheat meal and it's like we keep eating. So I started experimenting with the fasting in terms of I have a cheat meal, I eat whatever the fuck I want for the afternoon evening, early evening, stop at five o'clock, stop at five, six o'clock latest. Fast until two o'clock the next day. Wait, everything restabilizes overnight where I don't feel like it's two or three days to recover. Now it's like a couple of hours and I'm done. And then I did a 24-hour fast, just to see I stopped just shy of 23 hours because I had jiu-jitsu in an hour and I didn't want to just like. I didn't want to do 24 hours and then do jiu-jitsu. You'll be fucked up like that and I felt good. I felt a little fucking off later on that night. I just felt a little weird.
Speaker 1:And then after Thanksgiving, tyler, right before Thanksgiving, tyler was going yo, why don't we do a 24-hour fast? So, tyler, my buddy Gabe, my buddy Nick, the other PT, cool, okay, cool, yeah, yeah. So we all, just he messaged us saying, yo, I want to end. I said okay, cool. So we all just did it and the first 24 hours, totally fine. Yeah, usually that's what it is. Yeah, one day is easy. Once I hit 36 hours out of the 36, 38 hours, stomach just felt empty. Yeah, I would have roller coaster rides of clarity, mental clarity, to then like not depression but just feeling off, and then Like I'm a lazy.
Speaker 1:Lethargic, yeah, just kind of like glazed over, and I was at two shoots yesterday, so I did two shoots while I was oh wow, that's pretty good, that's pretty good. Didn't train yesterday, I trained during the 24. Didn't train yesterday and then last night Tyler told me that we were supposed to go to the bars, like the girls that he knew wanted to hang out, and so like that I said, all right, cool. So I cut my fast off at like 46 hours, so just shy of 48 hours, because I didn't want to break the fast at 8.30 pm and then go out because I knew I was going to have to go to the bathroom. I knew that, and so I sipped some bone broth. I kind of just for 15 minutes to get my stomach acclimated to having stuff besides water and coffee in there, and then I did the bone broth. Then a half hour later I did two tablespoons of almond butter.
Speaker 1:Nice, just transition back into it and an hour after that I did I fucking know what. I didn't go off the rails, but I ate a lot. For what it was, I had a bag of quest chips which is 20 grams of protein, five grams of carbs. So I was trying to be conscious of the carbs. Yeah, yeah, of course. High fat, high protein, that's what I was trying to keep it at. I had a whole rib eye. I had a whole bag of rice cauliflower with peas, and then I had what else did I have? I had something else, a little kimchi, just for the probiotic, and then that was it.
Speaker 1:Then I fell asleep on the couch because we found out that the girls flaked shocker, fucking shocker. Girls flaked, and which I didn't care anyway. I was in my jam jams already. Yeah, sweetheart, sweetheart, you, you, you, you miss the window. I love early nights. Yeah, that window, yeah, that window was an hour of like. We're going to like. Oh, I guess you know you have to answer us to give us the details.
Speaker 1:After that hour, shower, jam, jams, and I was watching WWE. Nice, that's awesome. I don't give a fuck about wrestling, but I just subscribed to Peacock because they had a Black Friday $20 for a year and then WWE was on. I said, oh, fuck it. I said fuck it, let me check it out. So they flaked and then I fell asleep on the couch.
Speaker 1:And then I woke up at 1130 and I was. I was walking to my bedroom and I saw the Italian bread sitting on my counter and I went fuck. So I had two slices of the Italian bread. Let me take a look at this real quick, let me just make sure it's not poisoned. Yeah, right, and so then I ate that and I went to sleep not as restful as I would have loved for my sleep last night it was okay.
Speaker 1:And then I woke up this morning I had what do I have? I had three eggs. I have three whole eggs and two pieces of the one piece of the Italian bread, which is 30 grams of carbs. Nice, cool. And then I went to Jiu Jitsu and then I had just now I had six ounces of lamb, grass-fed lamb. I had two scoops of pasta that I made so good and I had some mushrooms and a little bit of sauce on top and that was like the. That's the heaviest I've eaten in the last 24 hours, besides the full rib eye. Yeah, of course, can't forget that Fucking rib eye cooked in butter, not Keri Gold.
Speaker 2:So good, fucking Keri Gold. Fuck you, keri Gold. But no, dude, I love fasting. My mom and I do fasting. Fun fact of the day, I think you might have briefly posted this on your Instagram about the autophagy and all that jazz.
Speaker 2:So fasting is actually very good to get rid of cancer cells in your body. Now you have to just be careful, because when you have cancer and stuff like that, it really do. I need to eat because of X, to make myself have energy to take the medicine and so forth and so forth. So it's a very delicate balance. But if you are able to have 36 hour fast for cancer my mom and I do it every three months it's really good because 36 hours, 36 hours, not 48. No, not 48. Not for my mom, okay, because she needs to eat the medicine, the medicine, all that jazz.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Now what they're doing is, ever since this habit, I've been brainwashed with cancer because I want to always see what's the best, because I love my mom. Obviously I want her to live. So what they're kind of showing now really is that after or at the 32 hour marker, what they're starting to show is that your body goes through like a cleanse, and what I mean by that is this so when you're fasting, in your body you have all these like debris cells. They're called Zombie cells.
Speaker 2:Yeah, zombie cells, debris cells they have it's an umbrella term of cells that if you don't get them out of your body they're gonna start causing a problem. And one of the big things they're looking at is those zombie cells, debris cells again, whatever you want to call it. They are very highly linked to cancer. Now that's a good thing and a bad thing is, obviously, if you don't address that, that can lead to problems, unforeseen circumstances that we don't know could or could not happen. But what also you can do is you can reverse it right.
Speaker 2:So at that 32 hour marker, the body is starting to look for energy and looking for crap to get rid of, to get energy right. So it takes all those debris cells and gets rid of them. So it's almost like your body is doing a full on recycling of those cells that could have harmed you to create energy. So it's really cool. So we always try to do that as frequently as we can. Again, with everyone I'm talking on a cancerous standpoint. You also have to understand your body. If you're in like hour 24 and you're really not feeling, you're getting nauseous and stuff like that and whatever the chemo, the radiation is throwing you off like, do yourself a favor, eat.
Speaker 2:You know, like, yeah, you know don't starve yourself because of X, y and Z. Find a new time to do that. But that's what they're starting to show that fasting at a certain hour it starts to completely recycle the bad cells into energy, which burns fat and makes you quote unquote more healthy. So it's pretty cool, man.
Speaker 1:I enjoy it. Man, we're gonna create like a little group. If you would like to come into it. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, we're gonna do maybe like once every month or so, just like do a little extended fast. I think it's just not only do I think and know it's healthy, but we have such a gluttonous type lifestyle as it not only Americans, but as humans that have access to all these different foods oh coolness, oh yes and snacks and just everything. Plenty for supply too. It's something like air.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, it's just nonstop.
Speaker 1:It's just like constantly plugging our faces and we never give our body a chance to not only reset and be able to filter out those dead zombie cells and whatever, but the ability for our digestive tract to just catch up and just chill for a few. Mental clarity and stuff like that. Yeah, the mental clarity, that's what I find when I hit 18 hours, 20 hours. I find that I have good mental clarity, energy, I feel good, I feel clean, I feel clear and then I just it gets rid of that bloat, that constant bloat that there's a girl on Friends With. She does a lot of videos of food with her mom and just like constant Italian food and she's always out, she's always eating. And I was talking to her. I just said, listen, you should probably try the fast because you're constantly eating. It's just like. It's not good for our bodies, it's just constantly. Even bodybuilders I talk to bodybuilders all the time I'm like, guys, what are you doing?
Speaker 1:John Meadows, when he was alive he was big on fasting. He would fast once a week, not to 24 or 48 hours, but he would do good amount of fast because it gave it six, seven meals a day every day. For how many years. It's like you know it's a lot of food to just be processing around the clock and you're not even I see these dumb ass fucking influencers that eating a Rice Krispie treat before the gym and shit like that. Bro, that's not even hitting your bloodstream, that's not even hitting your body for the workout, you stupid asshole. It's like oh yeah, I'm eating a Rice Krispie treat. No, it's an excuse for you to eat junk food. Have a little bit of honey that'll hit you quick. Stuff like that that'll hit you and give you the energy, but like, you're not even tapping into the glycogen that's being utilized by that. That's glycogen from yesterday or from hours prior Doesn't work like that. So I just give your body a break. Stop just barting it with constant shit.
Speaker 1:It's like a stressful thing for me because we're overfed, overdrank, over fucking high. It's just the dopamine of just everything. It's such a buzz, overused word, dopamine, but it's just non-fucking stop. I mean people, just I have people that I know that just need to fucking drink and be high, it's like, and then eat and it's like you just don't stop. You just don't stop. You don't just sit with your own thoughts and just chill for a bit. You can't just kick it, but I'm just enjoying life. Yeah, you're enjoying it a little too much, just chill out.
Speaker 2:I think that's the problem, right?
Speaker 2:Because, to go back to that, fitness influencers Influencers, Influencers yeah, what I think they're trying to show is and they're really missing the point on this is that like, oh, you know, hey, I can eat a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, a gallon of maple syrup and three waffles and go to the gym and I still look good. It's like you could. But you're missing the point of what we're doing right now. Yes, you can look good, but you know like, how do you feel? You know like we're not really fueling a healthy style of living. You're looking at a good, a aesthetically nice way of living. Yes, I mean, I will agree with you on that. Yes, you ate the maple syrup and you still look great. Yes, that is correct, you got me on that one. But you're not convincing me that you're healthy by doing that. You know what I'm saying so by.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing with the bodybuilders that plug the steroids nonstop. I talk to them, you know, I say it all the time Plug the steroids, non-fucking, stop, non-nonstop. They look great on the outside. What do you look like on the inside? I know, man. What do your organs look like? Yeah, oh, I get blood work, okay, but you know, do you get cat scans? Do you get actual scans to see what's going on? Calcification of your arteries? Do you actually look into these things or do you just sit there and just nod when your coach tells you let's up the, let's up the, the dosage, the dosage of everything.
Speaker 2:No, I talked about this on the first podcast way back and I'll bring it back. But I was fortunate enough to be with a surgeon that works with a lot of Bev Francis people that they heard their shoulder or whatever it is and they have to do some type of muscle reattachment surgery or something like that. And what steroids do to muscles is wild man. The best way I can explain what I saw From the inside, from the inside, is the muscles become like a slim gym like material, so it's malleable. It moves around. Yeah, but try to put a piece of you know some type of material that sows back into your body and you have this slim gym type material. Yes, if on a paper standpoint, did you fix it? Yes, you did. But the steroids just eats at those musculotenters junctions that just cause it to be like this gook type, like almost like a shitty rubber, and it shouldn't be like that.
Speaker 1:Did he say which steroid specifically was the one that was the culprit?
Speaker 2:He didn't say that, but it's usually comes from a long term, like, let's say, argument's sake we did like a cycle. You know that's not gonna do it.
Speaker 1:It's the years in the 20s, 20 years, 15, 20 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the people, I think his research was like at five years.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's not even that long. It's not that long, no, but that's continued, but I do to start at early 20s, and they just don't stop until they're 40, 50 years old.
Speaker 2:So you know, if you're hearing this, just make sure you understand the consequences that if you're on for long term, you will have muscular degeneration that won't come back. It's one of those things where, when it occurs that way, arnold looks like shit nowadays. Yeah, man, he looks definitely floppy, you know.
Speaker 1:but I know a lot of guys that probably didn't take the same amount of juice as he did not even juice at all, maybe. And they're old, they're his age or older and they look 10 times better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, like I think Larry Wilts has that name. I think he's becoming a big advocate for, like not doing steroids anymore because his body is like so fucked up. That's interesting. It is wild man. But again, like you know, I'm not saying you know, if that's your goal, that's your goal. Like I'm not someone, do what you want.
Speaker 1:I had this debate with I had this debate with my well, not even debate. I had this back and forth dialogue with my buddy, stone. Shout out to Stone, love you, bro, you're the homie. But we had this debate because he put this guy up and this guy's like if you're Natty, you don't have to keep preaching about it, just shut the fuck up. And he's like, going on and on. I just said yo. I said this is the same guy that you know we'll say I'd rather live 40 years of lying and 80 is a sheep. I said.
Speaker 1:I said, and then when his, when his kidneys start failing from all the shit he's taking, I said all of a sudden he's praying and saying, oh, what happened? What happened? Oh, but no, you know what you did to yourself Exactly. Come on, bro, why are we sitting here pretending Just understanding? You know, he went back and forth with me a little bit and he was talking to me about like well, well, I said. I said I'm not saying that he shouldn't be saying these things. What I'm saying is keep that same energy. Yeah, when you get sick from the steroids, don't sit here and now be against them, or this. And that no, no, no, no. Keep that same energy, like you were all for it. Be all for it and don't sit here and go. Oh well, no, like no, no, no, you were pretty adamant about like it's all or nothing, right, exactly, enjoy, this is what you brought on. Yeah, because I've talked to so many fucking guys that have kidney shutdowns and that need a dialysis and this, and that it's like is that worth it Is?
Speaker 2:that worth it to you. You know it's hard. You know when you. I'm a big fan of Mr Olympia. You know you've done the photos in there and stuff like that too, so I like to see what the body could become. It's a fantastic thing to experience, to say like, wow, like this could be. You know, we really are limitless. We really are.
Speaker 2:But at the same time you have to understand that there are consequences, and I really stress that about all my clients that are on steroids and stuff like that. I tell myself listen, you can do it, and I will be in your ring, in your corner to the day that it's over. But just understand that this is a high-risk situation. You have to just get that. If you're okay with that, then go for it. You know, go for Mr Olympia or whatever you want to do, but just know that this is what's happening and at the end of the day, you know. You know, like you said, you know, keep the same energy. You know, if you're going to keep knocking on the door, don't be afraid when someone answers oh someone and something is going to answer.
Speaker 1:That's the scary part. It is the scary part, like are you ready to, are you ready to deal with those consequences of when you were 25 years old you wanted to win an amateur fucking? Nobody, no name, nothing show. It's like, dude, I'm not jockeying on your fucking, on your drive and what you want to do as you're being in society, but like, just understand that those things that you did and those things that you took, there are very big consequences that come down the line. It's not always instantaneous.
Speaker 1:What did I put up? I put up on my story. It was Matt DiLorenzo's wedding. I put it up the day before that.
Speaker 1:One of our buddies, eric, who has been biblying for a long time. He's in his late 30s, now Mid 30s, late 30s. Sorry, eric, if you're listening my bad, I think he's late 30s. He looks great, he does. We had I put up a story that just said I was watching the Olympia and I just said these smiles that these people are putting on. I said these are some of the fakest smiles that you'll ever see in the world. I said because they're miserable, they're judging themselves, they're. And I just I said a bunch of stuff. I just said it's sad to see people trade their actual happiness for a plastic trophy and this and that.
Speaker 1:And listen, eric got defensive, he got irritated and I'll have Eric on, he could talk about it with me. I have no problem, I'm gonna have his girlfriend and she's phenomenal. But it's like he just he got irritated and he was like well, these are the same people that allowed you to quit your job and do photography full time. And I said, first of all, nobody allowed me to do anything. Let's be very clear about that. Nobody allowed me to do anything.
Speaker 1:It was me working my fucking dick off with the main job and shooting people on the side to be able to make ends meet and make a name for myself. And then I just so happened to fall into the niche of bodybuilding, because I had a lot of people that I knew in that, and now I've transitioned and exited out of it from doing it full time. It's awesome, which I love. I love that I don't have to shoot that anymore. It's some of the most vain human beings in the world. And, listen, I've also been in that industry since 2011. I've been a Bevs guy since 2011. Yep, picked the camera up in 17 and really started using it in 18, and that's when I've been doing it.
Speaker 1:So I've seen the armpit that is the fitness industry from all perspectives from the health perspective, to the attitudes, to the egos, to the vanity, to the shit that goes on behind closed doors that nobody talks about. So I've seen it all. I also know that a lot of the people that compete are just doing it because they have no other outlet. So to them, they let themselves get out of shape, they get fat, they get out of shape this and that, and then all of a sudden they go. Well, I guess I'll do a show to get back in shape. It's like, dude, just diet you can have and I was that person one time but you can have balance. You can be able to enjoy and have a good relationship with food and go to the gym and enjoy all these different training styles and stay lean. Exactly, listen, I'm not the most shredded dude on the planet, but it's like I'm clear example of now.
Speaker 1:I've gone through the somewhat of the holidays already. I never thought that I'd go through the holidays without getting fat. It's unbelievable. My body would yo-yo and then I'd start losing weight too late. I'd start losing weight in May, june, and then I'd start getting lean by September, october, and then the holidays come and I'd tank myself again. This and that I don't wanna start over again. I wanna keep this healthy relationship that I have with myself, with food, with training. I don't wanna just fall into that shit anymore. And unfortunately you get in that cycle when you're in the fitness industry. You get in the cycle of I have to keep competing just to stay relevant and I have to keep doing this. Oh, I'm eight weeks out, I'm 20 weeks out, I'm in my off season, but really you just got fat. It's like there's a lot of shit that the fitness industry as a whole preaches health but it winds up being unhealthy. That bothers me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no you're right.
Speaker 1:Like I said Sorry to rant.
Speaker 2:No, you make perfect sense. It's not health, it's not you know-.
Speaker 1:And I hope if people think I'm wrong, you tell me. If I'm wrong, I just I think you're absolutely-. I really do hope that if I'm wrong I'm wrong. But from my experiences of doing it, competing in it, being around it, it's really one of the most unhealthy fucking sports in the world.
Speaker 2:I think there's a very bad correlation causation or just people thinking that just because you look good does not mean you're healthy. It does not. You know, bodybuilding is a perfect example. There are people that look fantastic and I can probably, I would bet a lot that they're not healthy. They're not. It's wild and again, you know, it's probably social media and people influencing and saying this and that and that. But you know, I think there's a very wrong way of people understanding what they see and then, unfortunately, when they get hit with the repercussions, they're not ready for it. You know, it also comes down to like, like I give a perfect example this same physician I'm not gonna name names that works on these, also people that work at Beth Francis. He actually gave up on them because it's one of those things where they're not ready to put into the time to make themselves better. They're not. They want more. They'll do more weights while the sutra is still attached and then it relapses and it breaks and then we're back to square one.
Speaker 2:People, I don't really think that they understand the whole flow of things. You know, a perfect example is like when someone gets a knee surgery nine times out of 10, unfortunately they'll come to me. They're like, oh, like. And Tony, like I didn't know it was gonna be like this. And I want to say, like no one told you this is what it's gonna be like. Like the surgeon didn't say, hey, it's gonna take three months to get back. You will feel like shit, you will feel terrible on the knee, you could have weird sensations. No, they just said to do it. Same thing, you know, they just see these things and they're like oh, that looks good, I want to do that, but they don't understand the cause and effect of it. It's wild. It really blows my mind. So, yeah, that's where it's at with that.
Speaker 1:So I know it as injuries go. What do you think about the Aaron Rodgers thing?
Speaker 2:Oh, so I heard about something. Wow, that hurt that like they think that they faked it.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've heard some theories like that, but I mean you with your background in sports medicine and rehab. I mean Buddy is getting better very quickly. Yeah so that's-.
Speaker 2:The.
Speaker 1:Achilles, total like attachment.
Speaker 2:So that's what's getting a lot of buzz, you know. Clearly, when we look at the breakdown of the video, you clearly see a rubber band snap in his calf, that's. You can't deny that. So something did tear, but he is doing incredible, incredibly well, you know Especially at his age. Especially at close to 40, which is really impressive that he's even in that. So what I think, what people are thinking about it, is that I don't think he had a full tear, meaning that when I say that I don't think all of his calf removed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean he stood Generally. You wouldn't be able to stand right.
Speaker 2:In retrospect you might be able to stand, but the way that he stood I don't think that that would have been possible. He might have tore a little bit of it and they might have surgically attached just that piece of it Again. Percentage wise, I don't know. I'm gonna say probably, maybe less than 50%. He tore on that, but I don't think it was as bad as they made it out to be. But yeah, I was looking at that. That's actually been a very hot debate in the Giants Dude. He's not wearing anything, he's not, you know, he's still the bro he's throwing the ball hanging out.
Speaker 2:It's very impressive on whatever he's doing. Maybe it's the ayahuasca trips that he's been taking, I don't know. Maybe it's that seven days of dark room, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It'd be like that sometimes. Sometimes you need a little dark room in your life.
Speaker 2:We've actually debated that in the Giants room. We're like how is he doing it and no one knows. I am convinced that there was-. A tear, just not as horrible as tears everyone thought or thought Not as prevalent as they thought they were saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know I'm like the craziest thing would be the comeback of out of nowhere. They make the playoff somehow and he just gets in and is like what I don't know. The fuck just happened. We were there opening night, tyler and I I know you were. That was fucking-. We were there opening night. I'm a Patriots fan. I was amped for the Jets.
Speaker 2:Dude, I was. I'm a Giants fan the energy was through the roof.
Speaker 1:He came running out with that flare. Dude, that was wild I went like this I looked at.
Speaker 2:Tyler, I went yo, this is hot. I said, this is fucking fire.
Speaker 1:And then bro, second play. I'm not even joking. Nobody noticed except for me in the box at first. I looked and I just saw him like walk over to the side and then he sat down. Nobody saw him sit down. I went, uh-oh, I said oh, I don't think that's good. And then that's when they brought them. I said, oh, that's fucked. I know, man, it's wild.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like I said, I'm not denying the fact that he didn't tear. I definitely did. I just don't know the actual percentage and severity of it, but he had to tear something.
Speaker 2:There's no nothing else goes on rubber band like that, yeah, that recoil, looking Exactly like a shake. Yeah, it's, yeah, definitely. But yeah, that's the hot take right now. Wife, what's going on? You know, a lot of the higher ups, like the level ones and twos, they're like are they doing something that we don't know? I'm like, I don't. I'll be honest with you. If they are, it's not news to me and I'm very caught up with knowledge. I read articles every day to get people better. If it's something brand new, it must be some type of European something that they're doing. I don't know, but I think it's the guy wassup European. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's a new Fiji study. They're doing it in the islands. It's like what the fuck? Yeah, how did you know?
Speaker 2:How did you know that they were doing it in Fiji? Yeah that's really funny that you brought that up. I just read that the other day and we were just talking about it the other day too, and they're like what could it be? I'm like I don't know, man, you know, but he's, you know, he's defying odds.
Speaker 1:The injury is so tough, man it just really is.
Speaker 1:You know even the little injuries that I battled with with Jiu-Jitsu with my knee. I popped my knee. I didn't realize. I was like I realized but I didn't realize that I was putting it in such a bad position. A lot of white belt shit going on. Like a lot of white belt shit, a lot of just now.
Speaker 1:I'm very situationally aware. With Jiu-Jitsu I roll slower. I'm like putting, I'm trying to put my hands in like the different positions, instead of like trying to do it quick because I'm worried that they're gonna slip out or this, and that it's like well, if they slip out, then I'll do the next set of moves. That's what we gotta do. But I trapped his kid's leg man. I pulled him into my guard, couldn't sweep him, couldn't sweep him. I opened my guard. Now he's kneeling in front of me.
Speaker 1:I opened my guard, my legs are on both of his sides and my right knee. I trapped his left knee that he had on the ground. So I was like, all right, whatever, he's still kneeling. Then we both had the same idea of I over under each other and we both stood up. And as we stood up his left foot came up and my foot went with his foot and my knee touched the mat and I just went and I went, oh man, I said okay, and then, dude it, it was like didn't hurt, but it felt off, it felt tight, it felt weird behind my knee for a while and I was like, what is this? Did I just tear my fucking ACL or what do I do? And this and that I called up Nick. I went over to where he was working at the time.
Speaker 1:He felt me out and he said you don't have any loss of strength, so you should be good. And for a week or two there, man, it was not painful, but it was off. And all of a sudden I just kind of randomly just oh good, I'll find again, Okay cool. So I guess it wasn't a tear, I guess it was just, maybe the bone just.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mobility issues right, it just kind of came out, it's kind of coming off and just making the noise. That scared me. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:That's the biggest thing I get nervous about.
Speaker 2:No, noise is scary, it really is. When you hear like a crunch, you're like oh shit.
Speaker 1:I get nervous about the knees. I get nervous about the elbows, because when they go for an arm bar and they're just pushing against the elbow and it's like reverse, it's like hyper extending it, that I get super nervous about Because I feel them grab that arm. I go over my right arm and I grab my arm so quick and I start pulling it back. Do you have?
Speaker 2:a favorite. Never, never hurt your elbow.
Speaker 1:Please don't.
Speaker 2:The elbow is in my history of working with, with just the body in general. The elbow to me is the most complex joint. It rotates, it bends, it extends, it pivots. There's another joint at the wrist that also pivots as well. I work with people. Man, it is very hard to come back from an elbow injury.
Speaker 1:Do not hurt your elbow whatever you do, man, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I know you're gonna think about that, but if there's a recommendation, man, try not to hurt the elbow. It's a bad joint to rehab. It's just such a tough situation.
Speaker 1:Especially if you get surgery. They make full recoveries, or is it never the same?
Speaker 2:You know, in the history I've seen it's like 50-50, man. It really just comes down to the point of how accountable you are on working on yourself.
Speaker 2:I like those odds, no I know, man, I've had people with Tom and John. Surgery like bike-bad surgery is not like after me. You know that they don't have full extension anymore. I've had people that they were riding their bike and they hit something and they flipped and they landed on their elbow and they broke it and then they put it back and it's only limited to like 90 degrees up here and then like 10 degrees before that. Do not hurt your elbow, I'm serious, do not. A hyper extension is a little bit different because it's a dislocation. You can just pop it back in place.
Speaker 1:That's what I get worried about with, though, with, like the, with framing, if I could get up on my, if I could get up on my elbow. I worry about I had a. You have like a clavicle fracture, not a fracture. I had a AC joint sprain.
Speaker 2:Ac joint was bad yeah no, I know AC joints look ugly because, like I do a lot of like volleyball players and they land on it. This joint separates and so they have this gigantic bump above that and they're like what was it gonna go boy?
Speaker 1:You'll have to feel. You'll have to feel mine. Let me know what you think yeah, of course, definitely Like, I definitely have. I definitely have a little bit, but then I feel it on this side and there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 2:I mean, like there is like this wild surgery where they take like pretty much like barbed wire, but like it's just wild, they just like tangle up but it doesn't lead to anything better. It's just one of those things where you just strengthen your shoulder, you strengthen your rotator cuff and it will just be okay. You know, it's what you know. I wouldn't recommend hitting it again, you know.
Speaker 1:But you know, unfortunately, you know, and I don't even think it was Jiu Jitsu that did it, I think it was the hit class, I think it was ring muscle ups oh, wow, yeah, so they're coming down and pushing yourself through Totally. Yeah, I think that that was what actually did it, that's a very good point.
Speaker 2:That's probably what it was, because that does take a lot of rotation and your AC joint has to, you know, go into your posterior, for that has to kind of separate a little bit for that to happen. So that does make sense.
Speaker 1:I think it was the burpees too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it could be the burpees as well. Yeah, that landing does vibrate up the arm. It goes into the clavicle which is and I fucking, I land.
Speaker 1:I land when I jump. I'll show you how I do a burpee afterwards. I like land, I don't just like oh, we're just jumping in. You're going to cringe when I show you my burpee. It's quick, yeah, it's like if I do it slow I'm not getting back up. No, exactly correct.
Speaker 2:You're like, you know what I'm going to lay down here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just going to chill out here. Yeah, exactly, did you have anything on that sheet that you went to?
Speaker 2:I do. Yes, I have Tony's tips.
Speaker 1:Let's see. So we got to have a. Let's do it. Let's do like one or two, and then we'll. We'll do a part two of this, of this podcast, because you and I could talk for fucking ever, and I know he's got to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2:That's why he's let me see One or two of them. I don't want to start Me.
Speaker 1:It's my boy. He's sliding all over the place. Let me just phrase.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know what I'm going to do. Two of them. One links to fasting, okay, and one links to something that was been a big pep-pee of mine and, unfortunately for me, there's research that shows it works so Damn. So they did a research study the other day and they thought about how much water do you think you need to drink a day to have proper hydration? Now, like that's a question to you, there's no wrong answer.
Speaker 1:I know it's way less than what? Than a gallon a day. I already know it's a low A less. I would say it's. I would say it's one of those one and a half liter bottles.
Speaker 2:So actually there is no number. There is no number so that there's an old wives tale that says eight glasses a day of water needs to a healthy lifestyle. So that actually there's no research behind that. Where that came from was a guy that back in the sixties he died and in the arbitrary they put down like a nice little thing about it. They said, oh, you know, we think that the reason why he lived longer is because he drank eight glasses a day. There is no research none about eight glasses a day being good. Well, I'm not gonna say it's bad, but there's no research saying like oh, this is what you should. Is the quintessential standard Exactly correct? So they did new research on that and what they.
Speaker 2:There's two ways to look at it. There's a very specific way of how much water you need which is based upon how much your core body temperature, how much carbs you burn not carbs, sorry how many calories you burn per day, what you're doing, activity lifestyle. There's a huge equation. It's like three lines long. I didn't write that down because it's ridiculous. Or, at the end of the day, look at the color of your urine. Okay, you should always aim for a very, very, very light yellow. It should never get to that point where it's like is it orange or is it yellow? That's the amount of water you should properly drink.
Speaker 1:I mind 90% of the time. It's clear, fantastic, totally clear.
Speaker 2:Good, yeah, from a light yellow into the clearness. That's what you're looking for. So I thought that was a really fun fact of the day and that's why I wanted to bring it up, because I know we fast together and it doesn't. It popped up the eight glasses a day. I'm like huh, that's really interesting. It was one of those, like I think, called a Mandela effect. Yeah, mandela effect, which one of those things where you're like huh, no one really looked actually into this. That is curious about that. So I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1:The water thing is crazy, because when I was bodybuilding and competing I was drinking, right up till the show, about two and a half to three gallons a day. That's wild.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of water I know, and people afterwards, yeah, that's like toxic amount of water.
Speaker 1:That's what people afterwards said. You could have, like, drowned your kidneys. Yeah, yeah, that's wild man. It was because I was so hungry that I just would have to satiate myself with water Makes sense, but I was pissing nonstop. I mean, it was insane. I'd be pissing every 10 minutes if that, If that. So yeah, I look back at that and I'm just like I can't. So that canteen that I have over there, 64 ounces.
Speaker 2:Nice. Yeah, I have one of those too.
Speaker 1:I know if I drink two of those I'm good, like I just in my mind it's gallon, I'm done and you know I'll put an element in there. I'll put a hydration supplement in there. If I roll and I do my hit class and it's tough workouts, like tough rolls, tough class, I find that I need way more, like I'll need an extra element pack. I'll need because I just feel so run down, because I'm just so I've sweat so much Drenched. I mean when I do the jujitsu, the-.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'm sure you're fucking pouring Drenched. Oh yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there are times where I'm rolling my arm. I go I'm sorry, I'm like dripping on his head. I'm like I'm sorry, bro. Like it is like, yeah, I'm on top of him trying to finish a move and it's just like streams of sweat just dropping on to him and he's like, I'm like I'm in my bed, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a couple of clients actually asked me about that. They said like, well, you know what about working out, and the rule of thumb is that if you really want to look and like be very religious with something like this, the rule of thumb is this Like, let's just say, arbitrary numbers, I weighed 100 pounds before I worked out. I worked out hard and now I weigh 98. You should drink that amount To replenish To replenish Gotcha.
Speaker 2:Right, you know and remember, like water is heavy, right. So two pounds of water, whatever that is, that's how much you really should replenish, Gotcha. But at the end of the day, as long as you keep your urine relatively clear, you are in the zone of being healthy. Boom, we good then. That was really funny, that's good. And then another thing that again this is my own ego that I have to kind of swallow on is there is new research that's showing that there's something called long length partials.
Speaker 1:Okay. Pretty much what a long length, partial. Is this what was coming up with? Like a Sam Sulek, yes, yes that's exactly correct.
Speaker 2:So I looked into this. I'm like who is this guy? I like.
Speaker 1:Sam Sulek. He's like the Bob Ross of bodybuilding. Yeah, I mean like I have no quarrels with him, he's just mad calm. He's like what you guys want to do is you didn't want to. It's like so calm, listen to you.
Speaker 2:So this guy actually raised a lot of questions about, like, how he works out, cause he does a lot of partials very, very heavy.
Speaker 2:So, you know, they kind of give me an idea like, let me look into this. And there's actually a lot of research on long length partials at the fact that you know it's the muscles that work the best with. This is three is the lats, your triceps and your hamstrings, especially a seated leg curl rather than a laying down leg curl, just because of how the muscle lengthens and stuff like that. So they were like, well, not in day me. We're like, you know, let me look into this and see how much merit this has. And not only does it lead to strength benefits, but it leads to actually very good hypertrophy benefits, in particular to the triceps and the lats. The hamstrings led to more strength gains rather than hypertrophy gains, while the triceps and the lats led to more hypertrophy gains rather than strength gains. Now you know it comes down to well, how do I implement this into my workout routine? Am I just gonna do partials all day? No, absolutely not. You're not gonna do that because obviously you want to get a good length tension relationship with your muscles. So what the rule of thumb is on what the research shows is that if you're doing four sets of something like that, what they would recommend is the last set, go a little extra heavy and just rep out some partials.
Speaker 2:And so what is a partial? Also, like what is that defined? I call them butterflies. Yeah, so percentage wise, let's say like a hundred percent range motion, you have what is a partial. They're looking at 25 to 50%. It's considered a partial rep. After 50% it's not in that partial rep range anymore, it's more on the full range, which it really isn't, because it can be 51% and still not be range. But that's besides the point. It's a net. It's letting hairs at that point. Exactly correct. Yes, between 25 and 50% of a partial rep, going heavier leads to strength gains and hypertrophy gains in certain situations. You'll always get a hypertrophy and strength gain in those three muscle groups, but in particular again to reiterate the hamstring gets more strength gains rather than hypertrophy and the triceps and the lats has more hypertrophy than strength gains. So there's the tips. That's dope. I love that.
Speaker 2:It is cool and, like I said, the reason why I'm annoyed about that is because I always said full range of motion leads to great things, and now I'm wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Wow, accountability, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's not seen though.
Speaker 1:You know, that's what I would recommend, Brother we've been chopping it up for a little over two hours, cool, awesome. Yeah, I'm gonna have you back on. We're gonna go. 18 more tips for you guys. That's what I'm saying. We're gonna cover them. We'll do something before the end of the year. Maybe we'll do some next month. Cool, we'll chop it up. Hang out again. Awesome, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1:I'm probably gonna release this before I release John's episode from last week. I did record my buddy, john Manimal came in. He's a secondary black belt Sick. He's dope, a little wild. He's a little wild. Brace yourselves. Yeah, so I have to. It's passion. Yeah, maybe I gotta edit a little bit of his podcast and I just haven't felt like doing it because it's the holiday week, I understand. So I'm probably gonna throw yours up tomorrow and then I'll put John as the next one that goes up. Awesome, I always love talking to you, man. Yeah, thank you, it's great to talk to you. Hang out, do our thing. Yeah, it was really so. This might be 75, it might be 76. It's probably gonna be 75, because John's was 75. Cool, but how can people get in touch with you?
Speaker 2:as usual, if you wanna have anybody hit you up for some homework and yeah, if you guys ever wanna just talk shop or have any habit questions, please reach out to my Instagram Lombardopt, so it's LOM, b-a-r-d-o, ps and Peter, ts and Tom and, like I said, you have any questions, you know I'm always free to answer anything. If you wanna just talk research or nutrition or injury prevention and all that jazz or reduction, let me know. I'm always available to talk.
Speaker 1:Love you, bro. I appreciate you. On that note. I appreciate everybody for fucking with us and hanging out Peace. No-transcript.