As we mark the 80th milestone of our podcast series, join us alongside Matt Fried for a heart-to-heart on the raw and rewarding essence of our podcasting voyage. Reflecting on the likes of podcast giants such as Joe Rogan, we unpack the virtues of patience and persistence that have been the bedrock of my growth. From the philosophy of delayed gratification to the influential contributions of our guests, we're diving into a reservoir of insights that promise to enrich and inspire, especially for the youth who stand to inherit the wisdom of our shared narratives.
This episode is a rich tapestry of life's intricacies, where we navigate through the significance of personal values, the potency of consistency, and the transformative power of embracing the process. Our conversation journey with Matt covers a medley of practical and philosophical topics, including the importance of managing stress, the nuances of hydration post-exercise, and the subtle art of balancing dietary habits. Together, we tackle the complexities of modern life—from water filtration to food temptations—offering strategies that resonate with anyone keen on personal development and a more balanced way of living.
We also don't shy away from philosophical musings, as we delve into the essence of Ikigai for personal transformation and wrestle with the dynamics of societal ideologies in the quest for higher consciousness. With Matt's wealth of perspective, the dialogue transcends a mere exchange of ideas, evolving into a collaborative journey through life's grand tapestry. Every moment of this episode is an invitation to engage with transformative concepts that can influence your approach to a full and balanced life.
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As we mark the 80th milestone of our podcast series, join us alongside Matt Fried for a heart-to-heart on the raw and rewarding essence of our podcasting voyage. Reflecting on the likes of podcast giants such as Joe Rogan, we unpack the virtues of patience and persistence that have been the bedrock of my growth. From the philosophy of delayed gratification to the influential contributions of our guests, we're diving into a reservoir of insights that promise to enrich and inspire, especially for the youth who stand to inherit the wisdom of our shared narratives.
This episode is a rich tapestry of life's intricacies, where we navigate through the significance of personal values, the potency of consistency, and the transformative power of embracing the process. Our conversation journey with Matt covers a medley of practical and philosophical topics, including the importance of managing stress, the nuances of hydration post-exercise, and the subtle art of balancing dietary habits. Together, we tackle the complexities of modern life—from water filtration to food temptations—offering strategies that resonate with anyone keen on personal development and a more balanced way of living.
We also don't shy away from philosophical musings, as we delve into the essence of Ikigai for personal transformation and wrestle with the dynamics of societal ideologies in the quest for higher consciousness. With Matt's wealth of perspective, the dialogue transcends a mere exchange of ideas, evolving into a collaborative journey through life's grand tapestry. Every moment of this episode is an invitation to engage with transformative concepts that can influence your approach to a full and balanced life.
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I just want people to come on and then, by association of these people coming on, they're friends, listen. And then, because they're friends, listen, then they go. Oh well, I liked what he had to say for XYZ, so now I want to go see the other guests that he's had on, and I had pretty big names on here and there, but it just it takes time. Yeah, you know, joe Rogan was podcasting for, yes, fucking like 15, 20 years. Yeah, nobody was listening to him in the beginning. No, you know.
Speaker 1:So I think I have a good jump where I I I see a lot of podcasts, that I see a lot of podcasts that you Not that you want to get feedback, but you start looking at what they're doing and you start just hearing stories from other people and they're like oh, you have listeners like it, they're there, they're. They're like surprised that you actually have viewership, and so I guess I have to be more content with, with the fact that I have good viewership and listener listeners for so early. I mean 79 episodes, 80 episodes in. This is your, this is the episode 80, nice. So it's like okay, that's amazing, I've done this for 80 episodes, but it's like you're just technically starting just gonna start so yeah, you know so you, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:You see Joe Rogan, you see all these other podcasters, their episode 2000 or their episode 1000. It's like alright so, but when did you see them in their journey? Did you see them at episode one? Did you see them at episode 100? Were you able to see them at episode 600? And chances are most of them know, unless they already had some type of a following. So it's just, it's a, it's a delay in gratification, it's taking the, the marshmallow test, it's a giving yourself the time to grow and and and enjoy the journey, because then, once you're at the top, how many people don't enjoy the the top? Once they get there, it's really the, the satisfaction of the grind and all the shit that you go through to get to that point. That is like the exciting part the work is the reward.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's tough, and it's tough to sit there and and accept at times because you want it now, I want the Lamborghini now and who? Anybody who tells you they don't is fucking lying to you the lying. I want the Lamborghini now, I want the. I don't even want fame, I just want notoriety that people Understand that I have more to offer the world in terms of like advice.
Speaker 1:I'm a young guy. I'm 32 years old. There's a ton more life experience I need to have in life to be able to give advice to everybody. But for the 32 year olds and even, let's say, up to 40 year olds that haven't done some of the things that I've done or experienced some of the things that I've experienced, I think I have a good amount of wide, diverse information and knowledge of things that I've accumulated over the years that Can help people out, and that's really and the guests that I have come on. That's really the other part of it. I don't want to be just about me. I want to be about the amazing people I get to sit down with.
Speaker 2:You're gonna do it, dude, so are we rolling right now?
Speaker 1:We've been rolling. That's it. I you know what you said you like the old. You said you like it when we just cut it on. So I said I'm just cutting it on from my man, matt look, look.
Speaker 2:So, nick, one of the things I've been thinking as I've been listening to the show is that you're doing the right things, right, right, you're not gonna stop. You're gonna be persistent, right you? You know you've been saying this all along, right? So how many podcasts are out there that have five, ten episodes and then they go? They go bye-bye, right, that's most of them, right? So, you're, you're way past that, you're. You know You're in it.
Speaker 2:When I listen to your show, I don't know where you're gonna get end up. I don't know if you're gonna be like it's not that you're gonna be like Tim Ferriss or Andrew Huberman. You're gonna be like Nicky Rizzles, yeah, but you're gonna be the same guy that you are now three years from now, but you're gonna have a much bigger audience. I know that because you're doing the right things, right, and you do. Look, I'm 44, okay, but I listen to your show and what is Rizalogy about? It's about more than one thing, but to me, the number one word that comes to mind is values, right, so you did say that on a recent episode, but it's, it's about values, dude, like, like, yeah, you've got people on Talking about health and weightlifting and jujitsu, and that's all awesome and good information and great conversations, but then you also are putting yourself out there and value like. People need values, people need some inspiration, people need some leadership and that's what Rizalogy is is giving me.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you, no, for real, and and that's really what it is about. I want to bring value. I really do, and there's a lot of shock value entertainment that's out there. There's a lot of like oh, it's the prank bro like just to get views and garner people to. You know, drum up emotions and feel a certain way when they see certain things, and that's what they're. They're banking their shares on and this and that I just want to be the same guy that I've always been for real. I just want to be the same guy that I've always been, except with more information and things to share with people like Tyler and I are sharing the fasting stuff that we've been doing. We're not fucking experts on fasting, but at least we can share, from the grindstone of us doing it ourselves, what our experiences have been. And then, hey, here's some anecdotal evidence that it does x, y and z for you and it helps you here and it Produces autophagy.
Speaker 1:I mean, how many people Really have Groundbreaking shit that they're talking about that has never been done before? I mean, generally it's. It's really non-existent, unless you're some type of you know, an astrophysicist that's Splitting atoms and no one has seen this research ever before. A lot of the stuff is information that's just been out there, that these people are Presenting to their audiences, that their audience can then distribute the information However they please, whether they share it with their friends, they share with their families, they share it on their social sites and then maybe by by just the the ability of Seeing my face or seeing whoever's face was talking about it on the show.
Speaker 1:That's how it grows and grows and grows and you become more relatable and more um, more of a not a household name, but more of just a recognizable face for life, experience, information, production stuff, like if you know other creatives that tune into my creative episodes where we talk about what we deal with clients and this, and that just I'm. I'm early in my entrepreneur game. I started in 2018. I mean, I working for myself full-time. Covid happens shuts the world down. It felt like ground up, ground zero again. We have to figure it out. We're constantly going through these evolutionary periods, which I know you can give me tons of insight on, because you've probably had peaks and valleys of your own life Throughout the 44 44.
Speaker 1:Yeah throughout the 44 years that you've been on this planet. I mean, it's just, it's a journey.
Speaker 2:It is. Journey is like, is the key, is the key word there? I mean, I talk about the journey all the time, constant ups and downs. I write about this, I talk about this over and over again. So, um, look, you know, there's nothing that it's it's. I don't want to sound to throw out too many cliches, but there really is nothing that hasn't been said before in terms of information, perspective, right, um, but If that were the if that, if that's what mattered, then you or I wouldn't be doing what we do, we wouldn't have podcasts, we wouldn't have newsletters, we wouldn't whatever we do, the the thing is, it's like your, it's how you give it, it's, it's how you, it's your story, how you infuse your story, right?
Speaker 2:So your podcast, it's like I give people nutritional advice, but I don't really give them advice. Mostly I listen to them and then I help connect the dots for them, right? So it's how it's how you do what you do what you do. Um, as far as the journey and ups and downs, I mean you know, yeah, I mean entrepreneurship. It's lonely sometimes, it's very lonely sometimes, but that's also part of the journey that you have to embrace, kind of have to embrace the suck. I'm sure that's that's a phrase that's been thrown out there, but it's true. You know, those are the parts that you learn from, the bet that you learn from and grow Right.
Speaker 2:So it's like when you start something and look, I started a daily blog in 2013,. Okay, um, I have almost zero readers on that blog, but I've been posting on that blog every day since 2013,. Okay, that's over like four or five thousand posts, but I'm gonna keep doing that. I don't do that. I do that mostly for for me, it's changed my life in many ways, but the readership hasn't grown on that particular blog, but I don't care about that. So I don't know. Just in terms of being an entrepreneur, you gotta, you gotta. If you believe in something, you gotta keep. You just gotta keep going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, developmentally. I'm sure that's helped you, though, throughout not only life, but being a coach as well. Yeah because you're able to articulate what you want to speak about. You're able to formulate your opinions and your words into correctly written. You know grammatically correct and and and Formatted wording on an actual blog. So, although you know you may not have any Readers and you may not have anything like that, it's it's almost like a running journal for you.
Speaker 2:That's exactly right. I don't like I don't write it journal style because I know like people don't want to read what it's not like. Oh, today I woke up and ate broccoli like people don't want to read that, and there are a few readers right now. But I'm just saying, like I it's what you said is right on. Like, starting that blog in 2013 Started me on the path to becoming a good writer, an excellent writer. So now, if I have to write Something for any other publication, that just comes right out nice and easy, because I've written thousands and thousands of posts In addition to that. It's like you said. Like that, that part of the journey Opened me up to so many other things, to learning from so many mentors and other things.
Speaker 1:So it's actually, it's absolutely changed my life and how do you stay consistent and Motivated to continue doing that and especially in the earlier days where you see, post 100 May not have as many viewers as you, as you were hoping for so consistency, right, so I, so consistency is my second favorite word, right?
Speaker 2:So you talked about the journey already, and then you talked about consistency. There's only two more. I have four, right, you hit my top two. Um, look, there are a lot of things that I have. I have streaks on and and I'm consistent with, like I've been doing that every day and meditate daily, work out, you know, religiously, and so, and a few other things, right, how do you stay consistent? It's, it's. How do I stay consistent?
Speaker 2:I'll I'll answer it this way in the beginning, it's hard, right, and and, and this is there's, there's a, there's a. There's a parallel here for for weight loss too, right? So this is why this is why I think this is important for people, because people need help here. In the beginning, it's really hard, change is really hard. So, yes, like, I'm a nutrition coach that helps people lose weight, and we know that there's a lot of People out there who just say, like, just eat less. It's that simple. It is that simple, but it's not easy. It's not easy to get started with something. The beginning is really hard, right? So, talking about the blog as an example, or anything that you want to do every day. As an example. The beginning is really hard. It takes some effort, right, but it gets easier and easier over time and then eventually, after you do something long enough, right, then it becomes a part of your personality. So right now, like okay, let me give you another example.
Speaker 2:There was a time in my life when I was 60 pounds heavier than I am now, very fat, out of shape, couldn't get off the couch, couldn't do it, wouldn't do a damn thing, right? You couldn't convince me go to the gym, not even close. You could barely convince me to get out of bed. Yeah, okay. Now the difference this is fast. For over 20 years, if I don't go to the gym three or four times a week, I I get pretty cranky because it's a non-negotiable part of my life. It becomes a part of your identity eventually.
Speaker 2:So, long story short, it's. It's difficult in the beginning, so that's why I my. My approach usually is to make things easier in the beginning for people, but eventually it becomes a part of who you are and that's how you stay consistent. So you gotta, you gotta match the, you gotta find a way to mat to, to make it Something that you're ready, willing and able to do right now and not make it too difficult in the beginning. It's already hard enough to get started with something right, something new, so don't make it harder than it has to be in the beginning. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I've already said this with a lot of friends that have joined me on the weight loss journey and the, the keeping yourself accountable and consistent with what you need to do and to feel better, be better, resonate higher. And I've already explained to him, like I'm not starting over again, I'm just not doing it. I'm not, I'm not doing it. I I can't do the start over again. It because the starting over is the worst part Always. It's like getting into the rhythm, getting into the mood to go to the gym, getting this and that, and you know, once you do start missing those gym days, once you're into that routine, you do get cranky, you do get irritated. You know, if you get an injury, you're, you're irritated because the injury is setting you back. And now you're like, wow, man, because then those first couple workouts back, you're like, oh well, it feels like I'm starting over again. I get. But when you're in that rhythm and you're just going like a piston just firing in an engine, you feel good and Generally you know, if you take your rest days responsibly which I don't if you take your rest days responsibly and you do, you do everything that you're supposed to do so theoretically, it's just supposed to just keep cranking the way. And when, when? Uh, what is that? What is the term? Motivation is fleeting. Discipline takes over that type of such a scenario. It's like the discipline is going to keep you going and going, like I woke up this morning. I did not want to go to the gym at all, didn't want to go, just didn't want to go. I woke up, I I got the the phillips, hue lights in my bedroom and in my living room and what I do is I set it for sunrise. I set it for sunrise mode for 5 am. Okay, so every day at 4 50 am, it starts to slowly bring all the lights on right to like mimic a sunrise to wake you up. I guess I didn't. And I have a. I have an apple home pod where I set my alarm and it just, you know, like dings to wake me up as my alarm clock.
Speaker 1:I guess I didn't set my alarm clock. Last night I went to bed a little later than I then I should have. I went to sleep by like probably 11, which is pretty late for me. Lately I used to go sleep at 1 am, wake up at 7, 6, 7 am Every day and that was not awesome, but anyway, uh. So I guess I didn't set my alarm and I woke up at I supposed to leave my house at like 5, 35, 40 to get down to where I have to go to the gym by 6, 15 and I woke up and it was like 5, 32 and I was like, fuck, the lights are already on. I'm like, oh god. So I took my phone out, I put it on do not, I put it on, uh, airplay mode every night because I just don't even want it on. On Right, my mom, my mom can get through to me with iMessages and this and that FaceTime she needs me. So, um, I, uh, I pulled out my little tiny decisions app, which is like a yes or no Scroll wheel.
Speaker 2:I gotta check that out yeah it's just like you know.
Speaker 1:It's just like it's like a magic gaitball. I think it's bullshit, but it's just. I'll go away for me to reaffirm if I should go or if I shouldn't, and there's 50 50 chance. And I just hit it like should I go to the gym right now or should I just skip this workout and go back to sleep? And I looked and it goes, yes, and I went All right, let's go. And I just got out and I went and it was an okay work out. It was good, but I'm glad I got it done because I feel better that I went and accomplished it right always, always, feel better.
Speaker 2:All right, so this is a great topic. You said a lot there also, so, first of all, I usually do sorry, it's okay, I know, I know, I just want to. I don't want to miss any of the key points that you, yeah, but the main one is that you, we all still right. So you and I have been training a long time. Um, I've been training consistently for about two decades now, and there are still days, even though my gym is in my garage, I don't have to go, I don't have to drive anywhere it's, I just have to walk downstairs. There are still days that I don't feel like working out, so that's never going to go away, right, so? So, however, every time I get over the, get through that and get my butt into the garage, it's always the right decision.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, two sets in, you start feeling, you start blood starts moving and you go.
Speaker 2:Okay, I feel like I feel pretty good for me at this point it's actually more of a mental work. It's like I'm in very good shape and I do it because I want to stay in good shape physically, but it's far more mental than anything else. It's like if I don't work out like we said, I get cranky, I can't focus right. So it's more of a mental thing for me at this point. Um, the other thing you talked about was motivation. So Action proceeds motivation. It's not the other way around. A lot of people have that wrong. A lot of people think that motivation proceeds action and that is a myth. So there's a couple of myths that we might talk about today that as in you get it as in you get excited.
Speaker 1:Let's say I get excited because I want to learn how to play the cello. Let's just say that. And my motivation is to play the cello. You're saying that I have to just get the action going to keep the motivation.
Speaker 2:Basically, yes, it's. Or a better analogy would be some people think that you know, if I sit around on the couch, eventually like motivation to go to the gym will like strike me like lightning. It's not. That's not the way it works. Um Action, action proceeds motivation. So it's like if you're on the couch Thinking about whether or not to go to the gym but not feeling motivated, the best thing you could do if you don't feel motivated enough to go all the way in the car yet Is just sit up and put on your shoes. That's a tiny, tiny action That'll start the motivation, that'll build up the motivation, and so forth right chain reaction.
Speaker 2:Yes. So that's one of the reasons why I also usually Look for the smallest viable action that a person needs to take to get started. Okay so, yeah, so action proceeds. Motivation so the more actions you take, the more motivated you'll become. It's not the other way around.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I could.
Speaker 1:I could see that, because there's a lot of times where, uh, if there's like so much work to do Just in terms of just everything, there's the podcast to chop clips up, there's stuff to post on social media, there's, uh, client edits that I have to get to, there shoots, there's this, there's that.
Speaker 1:I find that just Maybe just ingest the footage from the shoot from the yesterday, just get that into the computer, right, and then, oh, okay, you start looking at and you go, oh, okay, that's pretty good, like, and you start to get the excitement to actually work on something, because when you have so many hands and so many pots, sometimes you have to not only just pick one pot to work on for sure. So that's one of my problems is like I have too much to do. Sometimes the tasks are so spread out between a lot of different things that it's almost like you develop it, you debilitate yourself into just not doing anything. If you don't, you have to just do something, you have to just get to, and I'm one thing yeah and unfortunately I don't always practice what I'm preaching, like I'm guilty of it.
Speaker 1:So it's like I know that I have to just like for an edit let's say, if there's Three edits between two different, of three different clients that I have to get done Like I'm looking at all of these edits and I'm just like, oh well, that's gonna take three hours, and that's gonna take three hours, and that's gonna take three hours. It's like all right, just just start. Just start. Because now, instead of doing that, you did emails or you did something else, and now you look at the clock and it's four o'clock and you go, oh man, the day's basically over and you start Convincing yourself that, oh, I'll just do it tomorrow, I'll just do it the next day. And the next day comes and you're still not motivated to do it. So just taking the, the the proper steps like you're, you know, telling me is the best way to just get it going and get it done.
Speaker 2:Uh, I suffer from that too, or I'm guilty of that too. So a couple things that might help you and the listeners. First of all, it's a great book on this, called the one thing, by Gary Keller. Uh, he teaches about how just to focus on really just one thing at a time. That's a potential rabbit hole. Well, let's leave that there. Let's just leave that there for a minute.
Speaker 1:You know the whole debate between what multitasking or non multitasking- it's tough, man, and today, and I don't want to cut you off and and ruin your train of thought, but uh, it's, it's very difficult because there is so much to do and and there's so much to remember and so much information to digest and Uh, utilize. You know, we talk about this with with the daily habits, or you talk about this with All the health things and you got dr Aiman telling you brain health. You got a human been telling you about neuro stuff and you have, you know, uh, let's use dr Hyman because I like mark hyman, you got dr Hyman telling you this, but then you have all the carnivore people telling you this and it's just like holy shit, it's, it's almost like information overload that you just don't even start because you don't know where to start.
Speaker 2:Well, if you go on the instagram diet, you'll end up eating nothing.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna have air, ice cubes and coffee. That's basically, yeah, I'm just. That's why. That's actually why I fast, because there's just too many options. I just don't eat anymore. That's what. That's really what I do.
Speaker 2:Which is actually a. There's something called breath it breath Italianism, which people actually say that you can just breathe for energy. Now, that's good listeners. Please don't try that. Yeah, don't try that.
Speaker 1:Fast thing. We're gonna do the 20. We're gonna do the 48 hour fast after christmas day. So whenever our listeners and the people that tyler and I are getting in our group, we have like 20 people that are doing, it's pretty cool, but we have, we, we're gonna do whatever the last meal is on christmas day, we're gonna get everybody in a group chat and then we're all gonna be like our little support circle. Here we go and just do it, because the Thanksgiving one was really good. But once you hit I want to say 36 hours, 38 hours it starts to get challenging.
Speaker 2:I've done not a full fast, but I did what's called the FMD a fasting, mimicking diet for five days. What is that? It's basically you eat almost you're eating like 500 calories no, it may, actually it might even be more like 250 calories. You're just eating like a little soup and like a little water and like that's it. So it's very little food.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's like a cocktail, man, I can't. I feel like that's just like fucking. I can't. I don't want anything going in my mouth, I'm just like all right coffee and water.
Speaker 2:That's what we're doing an element pack Shut up, yeah oh, 40,000 volts is in all my water.
Speaker 1:Shout out to shout out to element more salt, not less. If y'all want to sponsor the podcast, I'm all ears. I'm gonna keep behind it regardless, but I love this shit.
Speaker 2:Listen, you know I love Dr Gabrielle Lyon, but Resology is where it's at, so let's go.
Speaker 1:Element so In due time. In due time. My take on the flavors, though. Mango chili, do not like that at all. I can't stand the mango chili. Tyler loves the mango chili, hate the mango chili.
Speaker 1:I got grapefruit in there. The grapefruit is actually really good. Watermelon is the goat, the watermelon salt is the goat and the citrus. But I also got the flavorless one, or the raw. The raw I guess they call it because from what I understand is the flavored ones have like 10 calories or five calories in them.
Speaker 1:So for this fast for Christmas, I want to just go make sure there's nothing besides coffee and then just the raw salt packs. We were doing two a day for the 48 hour fast One upon immediately upon waking up to get the electrolytes and then one later in the afternoon evening to just make sure we have more in there. And it's pretty crazy, like the uprising of electrolytes. You're like, all of a sudden, you hear it before, all of this extra research and these I can't even call them Instagram gurus because, like Rob Wolf, has been around forever just preaching about this type of stuff, but now all of a sudden it's like trace mineral drops and it's the element salt packs and this and that. And no, no, no, you want a thousand milligrams of sodium, like what. You start listening to the FDA, you're just like, oh my God, it's like. No, no, you're good man, just drink it.
Speaker 2:I'm glad, though, that electrolytes are coming to the forefront. I mean, I put them in all my water. I just used the 40,000 volts. A few drops from trace minerals.
Speaker 1:Okay, oh, I think you know what I have. The blue bottle Yep, I have those too. I'd use that before the element. I just like having a little flavor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I get you. And like, especially for athletes I know a lot of your listeners are athletes, so super important, right? Do I recommend that, like the average person who you know has, you know, is maybe as obese or just getting started, start with electrolytes? Maybe not, they probably should start with, you know, reducing their food a little bit. But electrolytes, like I've heard you've, I know you've gone deep down the water rabbit hole in research and listen, you know, I just, I, just I've been doing it for a few years. It's totally anecdotal, but I just feel so much better since I've started taking electrolytes, like if I, whether I'm eating, whether I'm not eating, if I have those in me, I'm just like I feel like I'm much, like almost practically super charged, like much more hydrated. You know, I think it helps with the absorption of the water and I just I don't want to drink dead water, I don't want to drink pollen spring water. That has nothing, no value in it to me, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, the interesting thing that I've gone down the rabbit hole of is the whole debate of remineralizing your water after it's done. Like I didn't realize that that was a thing for a long time. I just I never knew. Like I just thought that you filter your water because there's tons of contaminants in it and chlorine and fluoride and this and that. But if and then the other adverse side of it is, then there are people that are like fluoride's good for you and I'm like really To drink. I don't know about that, brother. Like I don't know if that's actually good to be going through your whole digestive track and injure stomach.
Speaker 1:Do you Like you know what I'm saying? Like not you personally, I'm saying like to the people that say shit like that on the internet. It's like, do you Like you just, or you're just assuming that it's good because it happens to be in the water supply? But then you start thinking about and hearing about all of these extra things the estrogenics, the birth control in the water supply, just like everything, things that weren't really prevalent 50, 60 years ago. Like they weren't, it wasn't that common to have that type of shit in there, and drinking out of the garden hose in the 60s and 70s was a little bit different than drinking out of the garden hose in 2023. So I've always filtered my water. I've always tried to buy spring water versus purified water and this and that which I didn't realize, that essential water, dasani. What are the other shit?
Speaker 2:They're all from the same company.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're all from the same company. Number two they're just basically like purified. They're just literally filtering your own water.
Speaker 2:I mean Fiji. Water is not from like the mountains in Fiji, so Fiji evidently Fiji, evidently, is supposed to be still. Avion. Avion's not from the Swiss Alps.
Speaker 1:Avion is water people will tell you and they will die on that mountain like right where they stand. Avion is the best water that you can buy on a wide scale. Besides, like more artisanal brands that are smaller, batch and this, and that it's crazy when you start getting into the water markets, like I'm very close to, I use zero water filter right now. I think the zero water filter is good because it comes with a TDS meter and mine broke a lot of time ago. But it comes with a TDS meter so you can test the total dissolved solids of the water and see where it is Now.
Speaker 1:A zero TDS isn't always great because that means that everything has been stripped out of it On some minerals, which I didn't realize For a long time. I have not realized that. I just thought, oh yeah, filter your water, it's your healthy now. So, truth be told, I want to get a reverse osmosis water system and because I rent, I can't really do the under the counter or the whole house, one and this and that Eventually, when I get my own property, I'll do that.
Speaker 1:But the reverse osmosis basically to my knowledge based from the research I've done takes the water.
Speaker 1:So if you put a gallon in, you'll get a half gallon of clean water and then there'll be a half gallon of wasted water that is still dirty and gross, where it pushed all the contaminants into there. So you dump that out and basically it has a four to five stage filter and then on some of these systems they'll actually have a mineralization filter that puts the potassium, the magnesium and the, I guess, sodium maybe I don't know if they put what they do with it, but some of the minerals back into the water. So this way, when you drink it or you do what you and I have done, which is, for my half gallon yeti, I'll put 30 drops of the trace mineral drops in, or I'll put one element pack in here, and then I know that I've put the minerals that were lost due to the filtration process back into the water. So this water is not going through my body and stripping my body of the minerals, cause that's, to my understanding, what happens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as you were talking, I was thinking about also like post workout. So I don't know about you. Maybe you could tell me after Jujitsu, like after I play soccer, which is like very, you know, like high intensity, if I'm playing for a couple hours, sweat a ton. By the way, people don't know this, but when you do stuff like that you could sweat multiple pounds, five, 10 pounds, you know, in an hour or two. But I don't need a Gatorade after something like that and I would never was a big Gatorade drinker. But the point is, when I drink water, if I just down a bottle like that size, 24 ounces, with electrolytes after high intensity exercise, I feel fantastic right away.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It feels good.
Speaker 1:Dude, I chug what I'm done rolling and if it's been tough I always say people are probably tired of hearing it. But after the competition classes on Sundays you do five to six minute rounds with like six or seven people. You are so fucking dead.
Speaker 1:That's intense, it's insane, because we're starting standing up so you have to worry about takedowns. You're gripping on each other, you're pulling on each other, you're resisting against another human, you're trying to shoot into their legs to take them down and then most of the time like I'm a fucking white belt, most of the time I'm fighting for my life, trying to get out from being on bottom position and trying to frame against them. So now I'm pushing my arms into them to try to keep them away from me. If they're inside control and my legs are out, I'm trying to reengage my legs, to pull back underneath them, to pull them into my guard. So that's core work and I'm telling you, drenched, it's gross, like it's insane. And I never was a hockey player, I never was a lacrosse player, football so I never had those pads.
Speaker 2:Oh they, there was nothing like that smell.
Speaker 1:Yo now, though and I was never a wrestler, obviously, so it's like now I finish at Jiu Jitsu and I take my rash guard off, and not only is it just like heavy and gross, but that funk, that funky smell. It's nothing like my normal sweat smell, like I have a sweat smell when I go to the gym, and we all do, we all smell ourselves, and it's just like. It's not that it's bad, you just have your scent. I do that it's just because of all the other people that are sweating on you and the mats and this, and that it is funk-ified, I tell I either give it to the laundromat. I'm like please use all the OxyClean in this place on this, which isn't good for you anyway but, hey, get the funk out, yeah.
Speaker 1:So or I have to bring it to my mom because I don't have a washer dryer in my place. So I'm like mom, I can't let this sit, cause if this ferments it ruins all the other clothing. It's like Kim, it's like a live culture, like kimchi is in there just spreading out the probiotics. So all of my other clothing.
Speaker 2:I heard you mentioned you've been eating kimchi every day. You've been sticking with that more or less.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So last night yesterday was weird for me. I was in like a funky mood. I was just like kind of whatever-ish and I I got pizza. I was like you know, I'm going to roll tonight. I said let me go, I haven't had pizza in a while, let me go get some pizza. I got pizza and then after Jiu-Jitsu, I just was craving ice cream and I went into town I got one scoop of S'more Marshmallow ice cream from Killwinds and then I went and got rice because I'm lazy, for some reason. I just don't. I have rice at home. I have a rice cooker. I just I'm like the the five minutes to clean the rice. I'm just like I had to feel like doing it. So I just go to the Chinese spot in town, I get rice and then every time I get rice I take two or three pieces of Napa cabbage out of the, out of the kimchi jar, and I use the scissors and I cut it to small pieces and I mix it into the rice.
Speaker 1:Easy way to get my probiotics. I mean, just you, I feel better when I eat kimchi. I really do, I feel better. It's my digestive tract has been kind of hit or miss the last couple of years, which I guess I'm getting. I'm not a guess. I'm getting older and I'm figuring my body out as as it's, I have iron stomach, my stomach. I could eat. I used to be able to eat like two bags of Sour Patch Kids. Anything else I could mix foods and I wouldn't get a stomach ache. I still have that, but my digestive tract doesn't act the same. So I have to now focus on less dairy, more probiotics, more solid food, binding foods, steaks, rices, some veggies. I don't really eat a lot of veggies, but the kimchi has been really good. My mom has always eaten it and she's a big sauerkraut like she loves sauerkraut.
Speaker 2:Does? I haven't, karen. I promise I'm gonna listen to you To your episode, karen. I haven't heard the Karen episode yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will. It's a good one.
Speaker 1:I'm going back through the episode yeah, momdeuce is great, momdeuce is great.
Speaker 2:So Hawthorne Valley Sour Crout, it's my favorite brand. A little shout out to them. Okay, you can get picked that up at Whole Foods. So if you like, if your mom likes sauerkraut, have her check that out. It's the best.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna ask her.
Speaker 2:Like biodynamic all different flavors, top of the line.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, best I'm gonna ask her for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so.
Speaker 1:so, yeah, I mean, you said a lot there again Again yeah, I said a lot, A lot about food right, a lot about the bisect Before we move into food.
Speaker 2:I want to quickly throw out about the workout. Also, go to sleep in your gym clothes. Think about how. Take the friction away, right? I do that when I every night I go to sleep in my gym clothes, right? So now I wake up in the morning.
Speaker 1:Oh, you take the total effort out of it. Most people just put their lay their gym clothes out.
Speaker 2:That actually provides friction. It's like, oh, I have to get dressed now, Really Right, so think about that, Just get that out of. Get remove as much friction as possible.
Speaker 1:Truth be told, I feel like your situation is and people that work out at home. It can be more challenging to get motivated to do it, to actually go into the garage and turn the lights on and turn versus like let me just get in the car and get to the gym, because once I get to the gym, that's all there is there, cause I've done both. During COVID I bought a bunch of gear and it's all in my mom's garage. I mean, we're talking top of the line rogue equipment.
Speaker 2:I know I'm waiting to see your garage set up in the next year. Whenever you get it set up, yeah we'll see.
Speaker 1:I mean, at this rate, with the price of fucking everything, I'm not gonna have a house for a long time. Look up, yeah, yeah, I'm not in a rush. I enjoy renting. All my friends are like so, so, like dead set on, we gotta buy, we gotta buy, we gotta buy Early 30s. I'm like why, right, okay, I get that I'm pissing the money away on rent, isn't that? But like I'm not house poor now, I'm not. If I wanna just fucking leave, I can. I don't have to worry about selling the house or renting it out or fixing it up. I don't have to do any of that. I can just go where I wanna go, rent, chill, and then, just if I don't like the spot anymore, I can just go somewhere else.
Speaker 2:Smart James Altucher has written a lot about that also Like he's a multi-time millionaire financial guy and he talks a lot about what you just said.
Speaker 1:About rentals and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yes, like he's, like he basically is like you should never buy a home unless you meet these criteria, and most people don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's keep it up with the Joneses. I don't know if it's just, you know, having to see all the other people Now that my age you start seeing everybody getting into marriages and having kids and the houses and oh, I'm a homeowner, this and that, and if the pressures of everybody else seeing that going, oh shit, well, I'm behind, like I need to. I don't know if that's what it is. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but for me I just I'd like to try to take calculated steps.
Speaker 1:I'm more of a calculated risk kind of guy. I'm not a put it all on black, put it all on red. I like to just weigh my odds and see and make sure that it's a move that you know, not every move's gonna pan out always, but at least I made the right choices leading up to it, versus just, ah, fuck it, let's just see if it works out. You know, cause I've been looking at like I talked to that and I've been looking at places in other states. I got like a five year idea in my head of if I'm gonna stay here or not.
Speaker 2:I don't know. So you're here in Montana for you, right?
Speaker 1:Montana, fucking Texas. I'll do Dallas. I'm starting to look at like North North Dallas, but I have to go to these places. I gotta just experience them. Check them out for a little bit and I have plenty of time. Go to Colorado, check Colorado out, check out Idaho, I don't know. I've just been yearning for that type of a more relaxed, in tune in connection with nature type of behavior, and I feel like I'm just not getting that in this area anymore.
Speaker 2:Hard to get that kind of feel here in New York. So you know, we'll see where we're at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that's right. Yeah, I say all that to basically say that it's just, you never know where life's gonna take you and you gotta just enjoy. So, in terms of like houses and whatnot, wherever I wind up getting settled though, I already told my mom, like she said to me, she goes. Are we keeping all this? I said, yeah, I spent almost $10,000 on gym equipment. You're keeping the gym equipment. Don't touch it, Don't even look at it. Forget that it's there.
Speaker 2:It doesn't expire, it doesn't expire and it's not even there. The same plates I bought 15 years ago. They're still good.
Speaker 1:I have friends that are a couple of friends of mine that have home gyms. They're like oh, you still want those. Yes, I still want those plates. They're not for sale, don't touch them. They're the powerlifting plates. They're the calibrated steel plates. They make that great sound when you bang them around. They're awesome. But I wanna do a home gym that has an area for the weightlifting, an area for the squat rack, this and that platform for deadlifting beautiful. And then I wanna get kettlebells ranging from five. I have a lot of kettlebells right now, but not pairs. I wanna get five all the way up to like 150. And then, when you start getting to the heavier ones, it's obviously single. I don't need two of those, but 150, maybe 200. So I can start doing some crazy shit. And sandbags I wanna get sandbags.
Speaker 2:I've made my own sandbags and my own sled also. I'll send you some pictures. But you can come by and check out the gym one.
Speaker 1:I'm down, I'm down. I did the sandbag training. Shout out to Tom DeJewel, that's my boy. We were doing sandbag training and I believe that that translates well to just life, not just. Frank the Jiu-Jitsu at life.
Speaker 2:You ever heard of Zach Evanich.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'll send you a link. But he's been my coach in terms of fitness for many years, so shout out to Zach and the underground strength gym and he has a program called Garage Gym Gladiators. Oh, cool that. You probably, when the time is right for you, you may take a peek at that. But basically it's a mix. It's blended training, right. So we use the barbell, we use the kettlebells, but we also use sandbags and sleds and calisthenics. So it's blended.
Speaker 2:But yeah, man, that's my favorite piece of equipment. Like, yeah, I buying all that equipment 15 years ago was one of the best investments I ever made, because I put in about 2K for all the stuff I have and it's paid off. It's cash flow positive over time, right, I'd never have to pay for the gym. So. But my favorite pieces are not the I love my barbell, right, I love my plates but my favorite piece is the pieces I built myself the sandbags that I built out of a Navy duffel bag, you know, with gravel from Home Depot, and the sled with plywood that's got a spare tire that I got at a junkyard, and the strap the way you pull this sled is with a seat belt that I got I cut out of a car in a junkyard. So, like you know, that whole thing costs me like 10 bucks to put together, but it never breaks and it's. It provides a ridiculous workout. So you know, that's a little bit of my home gym.
Speaker 1:You gotta mix it up, though, and it's important, because there's too many people that get stuck. I was so stuck in bodybuilding I need to train like this. I can't train anywhere the way, and you know I was never a fuck crossfader kind of guy. There's a lot of so many people. I don't know why there's so many people that just hate on that shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just like I did crossfit for a couple of years.
Speaker 1:I did. I did a couple of crossfit lesson classes, whatever you want to call them a long time ago and I was like, all right, this is cool, just does the way I want to train. I'm good on it. But now it's kind of like I'm in that hybrid type training where I like the bodybuilding stuff still, but I just I can't be bothered to go hit something for two plus hours at a gym. Yeah, you've been talking about that. I just I can't do it, it's just too much. So I now I'm in that I like the group fitness environment, because working for yourself you were talking about earlier, it could be lonely and it can be. Unless I'm at shoots, unless I'm doing things, it's just me and Kenji. So I just I like going to those classes and Jiu Jitsu because I get to interact with other people.
Speaker 1:I don't, I've never been in an office guy. I worked in retail. I worked in an office for a little while, but generally I was always sales. So I was always out by yourself and networking and doing different things. So then, working for yourself, I mean, unless, like I just said, unless you're at a shoot, you're by yourself in your office, you're by yourself in your bedroom. You're just editing, you're just. There's nothing going on. So now, going to these classes, going to these places you get to actually hang out and intermingle with people Doesn't mean I'm gonna go out and, like you know, go get food or go get beers with everybody, every single person, but it's nice to just like have a. Hey, how you doing, how's your morning Great?
Speaker 2:okay. One thing CrossFit has done well, though is, you know, the good ones, the good. There's a variance between gyms, but the good ones they have good communities, and that aspect of it is awesome, and I know there's a lot of other places now, like you had Dearon on the other day, he's building community.
Speaker 1:Shouts to Dearon for F45 over here and he's got his new Jericho studio opening up. We gotta go show love there. Check that out. Yeah, we'll have to go. We'll go for like a class and just go chill with him. I have a lot of friends that do. I was told about group fitness a long time ago and my buddy Vinny. He's big on the group fitness. He was an orange theory coach. Now he has an ISI business down south in North Carolina with his fiance Layla. She started it, he joined in with her and now they're just like the dynamic duo head coaches. It's just. I can't emphasize enough how nice it is, just be done in an hour. That's really what it is for me, like the workouts are good, like they're great. Evan at OG does a great job and tailor and they do a really good job programming everything and keeping it.
Speaker 2:It's all you need. You don't need more than an hour in the gym.
Speaker 1:Exactly Keeping it interesting, keeping it different. It's really really good what they do.
Speaker 2:By the way, you can get a great workout in in five or 10 minutes too. Just so, just this one, for I mean I know you know that. So this is mostly for the listeners. But, like this, next two weeks I'm gonna be traveling into the holidays, got a lot of end of year stuff to do for work. I'm actually gonna use that as an opportunity to take a break from weightlifting and I won't be doing my one hour workouts this week. I'll be out of town. I'll probably just do 10, 15 minute calisthenic workouts and I'll get you know and I'll stay in great shape so you don't always need to go to the gym for an hour. You know every you know.
Speaker 1:Well, it's also too much on the body. Sometimes, like when I would go to bevs I'd have too many machines. Sometimes, like I just look around and I would say to myself, okay, well, I'm gonna hit decline. And then you start looking, it's five machines that are just decline focused. And you go, which one do I wanna do? Oh, maybe that one's a better angle. And then you do two or three decline sets and then you're gonna do upper and then you're gonna do the regular bench press and then you wanna do flies and then push ups and this and that, and oh, I haven't even done cardio and I haven't done abs yet. And you look at the clock and it's already been an hour and 15 minutes that you've been there. It just drains on you.
Speaker 2:It depends on your goals too. Like I'm sure, when you were bodybuilding you needed to do the two three hour workouts.
Speaker 1:but the average person I probably could have been more efficient with my time. That's probably something that I can agree on. For me is that I could have been more efficient with the time that I was spending in the gym. I could have not hit everything for two hours. I could have taken less rest or made sure that when people started talking to me I went hey guys, I just I gotta get out of here in an hour. You know, hit me up later If you wanna grab food, we could do that.
Speaker 1:I've never been good at that. I'm always flattered when people wanna talk to me because, oh my God, like somebody wants to take their time out to talk to me. But after 10, 15, 20 minutes goes by, you're just like, oh my God, I gotta get away. I have to go do other shit, man, and it's no offense, but people get. They haven't seen you, or we were talking about it earlier with like the podcast. You know you felt like you know me, but we've only interacted once prior to this, when we were at the fight with Scott over at the Space in.
Speaker 1:West Country Shout out to Savage Physiode Doc. That's my man right there. I need his level of shredded. That's what I need. But you know and there's a lot of people that are like that there are people that I don't interact with on a daily basis. Truth be told, I don't interact with a lot of besides clients and Tyler and my buddy Gabe, and my mom. I don't really interact with people that much throughout my day. I get a lot of messages. There's a lot of people that message me, but to get back to everybody and to do my work and to put content out and answer replies on TikTok and YouTube and this and that it's almost like the social meter just goes all the way down and at some point I just don't even talk. My mom will call me and she'll start talking to me. I'm just like mom. I'm just I'm on E. Can we talk tomorrow? I love you to death. You're the best, you're my favorite person on this planet. But I just need to either play video games or just sometimes I'll put on.
Speaker 1:Endel is an AI generated app for soundscapes. It's pretty awesome. I've used it for a long time. I can give you I think you get free or 50% off when I share my link. I pay for the year every time, but basically they do. Ai generated soundscapes, bro. I'll just sometimes I'll put one of those on. I'll just sit in the couch and just close my eyes and it's so relaxing. Put everything on on airplane mode, turn everything off and just be still and just listen to those soundscapes and it's very nice.
Speaker 2:It's very important to make time to do something like that. You could call it whatever you want quiet, stillness, meditation, spirituality, reconnecting with yourself whatever label you want to put on it that works for you. But it's as you said before. You know, in today's day and age like we can talk about food and exercise all day long, but attention that might be the battlefront. That's the most important for us, for our children. It's a problem, it's not, it's a battle. You can win, you know, if you don't let it beat you right. So you have to take control of your time.
Speaker 2:If you are always responding to everything everybody else wants you to do, and everything and when I say everybody else, I don't just mean your friends and family, I mean, like companies that want your attention, right, and a great book on this called Indistractable by Nir Iyal. But really you know you don't have to go out and read the book to know that your attention is under attack right now, right Under attack. So you have to find ways. It's a little different for everybody, but you have to put things in, you have to set boundaries and put things in buckets sometimes, and sometimes you have to say no to things.
Speaker 2:So if you're all the other thing about that it's a kind of a sideways connection is stress, right? So obviously, if you're always on 24 hours a day and you're never making any time to decompress, like you just mentioned, with the soundscapes or like meditation or something, then it's gonna catch up to you. So you're just not meant to be in sympathetic mode 24 seven. It's just not good. So for people that don't know what that means, a quick overview is that you have the sympathetic nervous system and the parasympathetic nervous system, which basically, like you're talking about one, is where you're always like running from a tiger and the other is where you're like resting and relaxing. So you need time to. That's what fasting is about in a large way. You've talked so much about fasting, but fasting is about resting and digesting, right. So that's giving your body, your organs, a break, right. But you got to do that for your mind too, and fasting does a little bit of that mentally as well too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know if I screwed it around too much, but Now I'm always interested to hear, like the things that you've experienced, the things that you've read, the information that you've absorbed over the years for different topics, because that may be something that I haven't heard or that people haven't heard before, or maybe I know a little bit about it, just not a lot about it. So I always love when I hear about the things that you've been able to absorb.
Speaker 2:What I would say is this if you meditate right, Not as religiously as I need to.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty, I'm hit and miss. I feel better when I do meditate regularly. My issue is I get so relaxed when I meditate because I guess I'm actually turning my brain off, finally to some extent, that the stimulus that I'm constantly going through between everything all the electronics, all like the people, all the clients, work, stuff like that that I'm finally at rest, that I actually fall asleep every fucking time. Every fucking time I fall asleep when I meditate and I wake up maybe 10 minutes, five minutes after the meditation is done, the guided meditation, once it's done. I wake up and it's just silence and I look around like where am I?
Speaker 2:And I go oh shit, I just fell asleep again, when you're doing that, you're seated in an upright position.
Speaker 1:No, I usually find I'm more relaxed when I lay down, so that's probably my issue.
Speaker 2:There you go. There's my issue. So you're just taking a nap, yeah, I guess I'm taking a nap. You said earlier you don't take your rest seriously enough. That's your body telling you something, right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I took off because I told you I wasn't feeling good the previous week. So when I took off from the gym, from everything, I was sleeping hard yeah, hard. I mean we're talking deep, deep sleep. I wasn't moving, I was out and I was sleeping all day too, and it's a tough act to battle. I was talking to my friend Riz in class today and she was. We constantly have this.
Speaker 2:There's another Riz.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's awesome. I said I'm the original, I'm the older Riz, so I'm the original Riz, and she listens to the podcast every now and then, so I hope she hears this Shout out Riz, hey, Riz.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, riz, number two, but we were talking and she has the same problem. Like she's going to class six times a week, five to six times a week. And listen, these are hit classes. These aren't just bullshit little things Like we're running, we're rowing, we're doing the skierg, we're doing snatches, we're doing a million and one different things and we're just wearing our body down and then on top of it I'm doing Jiu Jitsu and I'm taking care of the dog and I'm running around and all the regular daily responsibilities on top of all this. So it's like, okay, you're getting your physical health in order and you're burning calories and you're keeping your mind sharp because of it, but at the same time you're wearing yourself down and you're not giving yourself the proper. So once again, that middle place. I have a problem finding the middle, because that's either drastic or not to one side or the other. It's never been able to do it.
Speaker 1:When I was bodybuilding, I was fucking bodybuilding. There was nothing that could change my mind. I had one goal, one mission. That was it. When I started Jiu Jitsu, it was like I got to go every single day and then injury started piling up, so I slowed down and then, once I slowed down. You're not as sharp with it. So then I made sure I went for the more intricate days, the competition classes. Okay, this class on Tuesday is a little harder than the Monday class, or this and that, and I'll try to go three or four times a week, but I'm still doing the OG stuff in the morning and your body just doesn't get five seconds to just chill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get it. I get it. So what I would say a couple of things about that are. One is first, for you, there's a saying that like if you think you don't have time to meditate for 10 minutes, you need to do it for 20.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm gonna sleep for 20 minutes now. I gotta sit up, I gotta sit up.
Speaker 2:So that was kind of a half kidding. It's half serious. But also, though it's not about I'm not telling you or anybody listening to meditate. That's not what I'm about to say.
Speaker 1:No, it's amazing, though, and there are truly so many benefits to it.
Speaker 2:So it's super important. But you can get. So. What we're talking about also is that there's other paths, right? So meditation is great and you can sit with an app for five or 10 or 20 minutes and do the guided session and that's great, right, that's not the only path. You also have your breath. You can do some breath work. You can do breath work. You can literally do like a four, seven, eight or a box breathe, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Shout to my man for bringing me a Christmas gift. I appreciate him so much.
Speaker 2:But you can get started if you are stressed. If you are, if any of the things that we've said in the last 10 minutes hit home with anybody and they're like stressed or their attention is being pulled in all these different directions, one minute of deep breathing can be a game changer, right? So I listen. You saw me meditating before this podcast outside. I do that before every meeting I have. Every client meeting, every work meeting, every meeting I do some form of meditation or breath work because it gets me focused.
Speaker 1:So what's Tony Robbins called the flow state? Yeah, it's called the flow state. Just being in the moment and getting ready, I listened to a lot of Bedros Kulian, which obviously I mentioned him almost every podcast. People are gonna start thinking that I'm a fanboy because I am, but it's he talks about like before his podcast, before his speaking engagements, before anything like that not so much a meditation but gets into, goes into the corner, jumps up and down, starts saying this is gonna be amazing, this is gonna be a great episode. We're gonna change people's lives. We're gonna give them a lot of value and information and this and that and generally the energy follows. I mean you, just you put yourself in that high elevated state. You feel good and because you feel good and because you're mentally clear, you're able to really give your all, versus just if you had a bad morning and that's easy to just sink into that well, fuck it. Type of mentality and mood.
Speaker 2:And just to add on, that is, even if you're not doing breath worker meditation. There are even other ways to decompress, to engage, that parasympathetic thing that I talked about before the rest and recovery. You can light a candle while you're cooking dinner and leave your phone in the other room. Right Stuff like that to just disengage and disconnect, just connect with yourself. It's not really disconnecting, it's connecting back with yourself. So that's important.
Speaker 1:And I believe that that's some of the stuff that I need. I need that connection, not only with myself, but I need that connection with nature and the world. I'm not a big nature guy Like I'm really not. I fucking hate, because I know there's so much shit that can kill me out there, like bears and mountain lions and shit like that.
Speaker 1:And I remember we were in Colorado shooting for Under Armour. We were in Colorado shooting for Under Armour in Vale and we were in the mountains and I fly my drone and all of a sudden all you hear is just the mountain lion screams. I went what was that? And the dudes that are from Colorado, they go oh, mountain lions. I went just mad, calm, right, mountain lions, that's it. I go nah, dude, fuck that shit. I said I do not want that around me. I was like everybody got a gat, everybody got a gun, cause if that thing comes near us, I need y'all to start firing because I don't want that thing to swipe me out.
Speaker 1:So but in saying all that, I do believe that I need to connect more ground more.
Speaker 1:Take your shoes off, put your feet in the dirt, and there's so much information and even scientific proof that it connects us to the earth and it makes us even more level headed and less anxiety, less less anxiousness, just by just connecting and relaxing, because all of these electronic devices, all of them have EMFs and all of them have these different levels of radiation not necessarily bad radiation like nuclear bomb radiation, but levels of radiation that may not kill us, but they affect us and they change the brain waves and the ability for us to actually just be present and in the moment.
Speaker 1:And one of the things that I really enjoyed I forget who said it this morning. Oh, it was Dr Hyman, with Mark Quick, who's the guy who does a lot of coaching for reading and learning with the brain. His book that he just came out was called Limitless and it's supposed to be amazing. He just added a bunch of topics about AI and new tropics and other stuff that keep it more present with a post pandemic generation now. And he was just saying that we're living in a world of dings and notifications constantly. I turned off most of my notifications.
Speaker 2:Same here. I don't have notifications.
Speaker 1:I turned off most of my notifications. The only ones that I have on are the phone text messages, and then Instagram. The issue, though, for me is that my business is on Instagram, so if I don't promote the podcast, if I don't talk to my clients through there, I lose out on potential money and engagement in eyes.
Speaker 2:I understand.
Speaker 1:If I didn't need it and I said this many times I honestly would probably delete the app.
Speaker 2:Listen, I've thought about just getting rid of my phone altogether, but my wife would probably kill me.
Speaker 1:I need a bat signal for you, then that's it.
Speaker 2:But, look, I turned off notifications because they, at least for me, became too stressful. And I get a lot of messages, like you, and I'm thankful for that. But I wanna check them when I wanna check them.
Speaker 1:I wanna interject and just say I'm blessed that I do have so many people hitting me up, just like people wanna talk to me. I appreciate that that means a lot to me, but there's only so much that somebody can just mentally handle in a single day, with all of the stimuli and all of the different things that are just firing in your face, until you're just at that ground zero no gas type level and you're just like I need a break. I can't answer anybody, I can't talk. I gotta just be able to chill.
Speaker 2:I try to batch things you do. You may. I don't know if you batch any of your work.
Speaker 1:Block time block Time, blocking you know what. So, truth be told, and I'll let you continue, I just and I wanna share this with everybody I just created all of my calendars to be more specific. So it used to be like shoot. It used to be gym, no gym, it used to be just shoot. It used to be events, appointments, that's pretty much it. So now the calendars that I have for my business calendars is video shoot, meetings, rizzles Productions, general Rizology for podcasts, social media planning, deep work, discovery call.
Speaker 2:How many times? How much time on the deep work To be?
Speaker 1:completely honest with you. I have not done any block, I just did this last week. I haven't blocked any time off for deep work yet I need to.
Speaker 2:I need to Four hours if you want Four hours for deep work would be nice.
Speaker 1:Maybe I could do like an 11 to two or 11 to three type of scenario in my office turn off all the notifications, turn off everything. Maybe just turn the fucking phone off and leave it on my desk and then just start getting work done Deep work, discovery calls for my introductory calls with clients to just see, instead of just phone call or meeting, editing, photo shoot and then work bills. And then on my personal calendar, which is my iCloud, it's appointments, bills, events, family, so anything I do with my family, gym and church.
Speaker 2:So one thing that so I've done various kinds of time blocking and calendar stuff. Don't forget you or listeners to, if you're gonna be really disciplined about getting your calendar fully aligned and basically blocked out for the whole day with whatever you want, like, if you put it on your calendar, it's likely that you're gonna do it, and if you don't, it's probably likely that you're not. Don't forget to. But people forget when they do this though, like meal time, like it's little things like that, that regular things like if so, if you build in your whole calendar but you forget to put in lunch and dinner, then it throws you off. So just don't forget to do the put the mundane things on there too, because they take time.
Speaker 1:You know I'm running out of colors. I'm running out of colors to put on the calendar.
Speaker 2:You could eat you know what was the other thing? Oh yeah, and another thing about planning that we touched on earlier, but I want to come. I forgot to say was if you can write down, like a short list, three to five things, the top three to five things that you want to do tomorrow, the night before when you go to bed, that can be a game changer for people too, right? So we have a lot. We all have a lot of stuff to do. If you wake up in the morning and you don't know where to start, that's a problem. That's decision fatigue starting already, right there, right? So, if you take five minutes the night before, okay, these are the top three things I got to do tomorrow. I got to do this prep for this interview, I got to do this spreadsheet project and I got to write this blog post. Well, if you put them in order and you wake up in the morning, now you have no decision to make in the morning, you know what your number one is and you're good to go. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:And I've definitely had decision fatigue a lot of times, especially because of with Kenji. I'm on such a tight schedule with the dog that it almost you know he's very needy love and death. A man's laying behind underneath our feet right now. I love him to death. He's the best dog he really is. He's awesome.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad I got to meet Kenji.
Speaker 1:Yes, for sure. You know I'm starting to bring him to the podcast again. The issue was in a very brief statement because a lot of people have heard it before. The issue was my old office was 30 minutes away. So being 30 minutes away, then he forms the epilepsy. It's like I bring him there, the office is too small. He already doesn't like being there because the office is too small. He liked it when he was a puppy and he was smaller. The office is too small, then he gets needy. He wants to go OUT. I got to spell when he actually I got to spell when he's around he wants to go OUT. Okay, then you got to do that. You're ready to be a father and you bring him back.
Speaker 1:But then he wasn't eating his food back then. So I think a lot of his seizure issues were due to blood sugar related things. That's that I haven't been able to pinpoint a trigger. He had one seizure because he was afraid of something, because I dropped a bottle and it made a loud noise and that triggered a seizure. But other than that, all his other ones had been when he's deep sleep or he hasn't eaten his food very well for the day and this and that. So if he didn't eat his food in the morning and I brought him 30 minutes that way, so it's like, okay, well, now I have to leave by 3pm because we got to drive back he's got to eat his food he didn't eat this morning. It becomes too much to just mentally and then get your work done.
Speaker 2:If you think about all the time that you've saved by putting this office and like moving here and having the office, I mean you just made yourself exponentially more productive.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and the stress level went way down.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, it's only a couple hundred hours more a month and it's over double the size, so it makes a lot of difference. And then the fact that I can go to the gym do my thing. And then we had our podcast today at 10 and it's like I get to just walk down and set everything up. I don't have to drive 30 minutes. And you know how many times I forgot, like, let's say, my tripod was in my car today. Right, trip was in my car.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I would forget a cable that was sitting on my table that I should have brought. It's like the podcast starts in 45 minutes. It's a half hour drive there just to go back and I forgot this fucking cable on the table and I have to go back and get it and come back because just hassle, hassle. But anyway, decision fatigue with everything that goes on the block, everything off is good. My issue personally is when I see all of the calendar blocked off. I don't want to lie to myself. So if I block off four hours for deep work, I want to do deep work, and it's not that I won't do it, but if I get pulled in another direction, I feel guilty that I didn't stick to my own word of keeping my calendar exactly the way it needs to be.
Speaker 2:I understand everybody needs their own system and I don't have a perfect system, even for myself. I'm always changing and adapting, seeing what works, what doesn't work. I think the key is just to try things right. If you go into the day with no plan at all, that's probably the worst. Yeah, that's the worst.
Speaker 1:There's a book I just started reading which I'm 10 pages into. I don't know the proper pronunciation. I believe it's Iki Guy.
Speaker 2:Oh, iki Guy. Oh wow, we're gonna talk about Iki Guy. Now we can talk about it. I have my Iki Guy right there on that computer.
Speaker 1:Oh, really okay, so I just started the book. So it basically is from what I'm understanding so far and obviously you're much more knowledgeable on this than I am- oh well, in the last few months I started doing an Iki Guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I haven't done anything yet, I've just read 10 pages of the book, but I find it interesting that shout out to my boy, Matt Davis love you, Matt. He's always a supporter of the podcast, Him and his brother, Chris unbelievable human beings. Matt has inspired me to really just focus. He's reading a ton of books and he's really just like developing himself to a really really honorable good man Not that he wasn't before, but he's just really honing in on it now. So I saw him post that book and I got interested in seeing it and basically, to my understanding is, it's just the deep work that you do on the passions that keep you going.
Speaker 2:Right, correct, yeah, so I'll also quick shout out I learned about Iki Guy from Matt Gray, who-.
Speaker 1:Double Matt's, let's go. Double Matt's, Triple Matt's technically.
Speaker 2:yeah, he runs a few companies and he's very successful and he talks a lot about how Iki Guy, reading the book Iki Guy, changed his life and also helped shape the future of his multiple businesses. So, matt, iki Guy's right over there and once a month I go back and review it and, yes, you have, it's like a Venn diagram, right and concentric circles, and it's things that you love to do. I don't wanna interrupt the podcast and pop it open now.
Speaker 1:You could pop it open. There's no interruption.
Speaker 2:If you wanna see me do it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it. If you're cool with sharing it, yeah well you got this there is zero interrupting.
Speaker 2:So but basically, if you do the work of going through an Iki Guy, it's gonna tell you really basically what you should be doing with your life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you need Wi-Fi or you have it?
Speaker 2:Probably need the Wi-Fi, but I got you, so you know. You know what I don't want to like have too much dead air, no, no we're good man, there's no worry.
Speaker 1:I used to fear dead air. Truth be told, I used to fear dead air. I hated it, but the more I watched Rogan, the more I watched these other podcasters. Sometimes it requires you to stop what you're doing in the conversation and pull things up, and you could just-.
Speaker 2:Resology office.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Resology office. You might ask me to let you in. Click the password.
Speaker 2:Ask for the password.
Speaker 1:yeah, Click the password.
Speaker 2:No, it doesn't give me that option.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just saying click where you input the password.
Speaker 2:Just click there once yeah yeah, it didn't ask me.
Speaker 1:Well done, please hold. It's a long password. I do all the encrypted passwords because I'm a nut job. Oh, it's because I'm not even on the Wi-Fi. That's awkward for everybody involved. There you go. Let's see Resology office. I'm joining it.
Speaker 2:I can't believe you brought up Hickey Guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's pretty cool right, how things like that. All right, now click it again, hit cancel and then go back into it. Now it may ask me let's see, come on, apple, don't fucking fail us, don't you fail us, apple. Go Resology, resology office. Don't you fail us, apple. You failed us, you asshole. If I texted you, does it come up to your phone or no?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's another thing. While you do that, I do most of my texting. Oh no, because I have no internet here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but if you join on your phone, there we go. I just sent you my password for that.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why. Or just do a hotspot on your laptop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know why I didn't think of that. Let's just turn on the hotspot, okay.
Speaker 1:My nut job ass. Ever since I had one person try to get into one of my accounts. That was it, man. Every password I used, the app called OnePassword. There's one password to get into the app and then, after you have that one password and that's even a secure password that I have written down in a few different places once you have that one password that you input to get into the actual application, all your logins live there my credit cards, I have my driver's license in there for the number, just in case I don't have it with me. And when you go to create a new login for any type of a website or anything that you want to do, it'll make as many character encrypted, randomized passwords for you. So I do that for everything, because there's no way a fucking hacker is going to figure that out Right. I mean, maybe they can, but generally they're looking for oh, what's Nick's dog, Kenji? It's like not asshole, I'm not that dumb.
Speaker 2:I use. Yeah, I use a password, sort of like a last pass.
Speaker 1:Last pass. Yeah, same thing, same. Thing.
Speaker 2:So here's my icky guy, and I know that the viewers won't be able to see it.
Speaker 1:They probably won't be able to see it, but it's okay, you could describe it to them.
Speaker 2:You could see it's got, it's got um.
Speaker 1:So describe North to Northeast, southwest, all the way around.
Speaker 2:That's the way I do, that's the way you do it. So it's what you love, followed by what the world needs, followed by what you can be paid for, and then the last one is what you are good at. So you start, and you got to take time and really think about these things. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's not just something that you just spew out on paper and that's it. It's the end, all goal.
Speaker 2:No, it's not something that you'll even. You'll do it more than once in your life. Like I said, I do it monthly, lately, last few months, and you know you start by writing out things that fit and then, as you move closer to the center, you you see what's in the intersection of those things. So what's at the intersection of what you love and what the world needs? That's your mission, right? What's at the intersection of what you're good at and what you love? That's your passion. And you keep going around and around until you get to the middle. Really, you should fall. You should find that certain words appear over and over and over again, right.
Speaker 2:And then you start to get closer and closer to the center of all these things what you love, what you're good at, what you can be paid for and what the world needs. That's your Iki guy. So you know, in the middle I ended up with four words. So at the moment my Iki guy says transformation, coaching, community and teaching. So you know, you can ask me a question about anything you see there. But that and that might change, probably will evolve over time. But those four things really speak to what I love, what I'm good at, what I can be paid for and what the world needs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and how long did it take you to assemble this? How many revisions have there been?
Speaker 2:I'd say that took me about probably a half hour the first time I did it because I wanted to take my time with it, but you could do it even faster than that. Yeah, and once a month I look at it and you know, I look at it and if anything, I think I did a revision, you know, every couple of months, like I would imagine. As here's the thing we talked about entrepreneurship the first time I did that was in September, and so fairly recently. Yes, and so from September to today I've been really pushing my entrepreneurial journey right, and so I've been learning things about myself along the process, right. And so then of two or three months later, I think, in my November revision of that, I'd changed a few. I was like, oh, I really like this, or I'm really good at this, so I added a few things. So it changes right. Like we said, it's a journey. We're always evolving. But you know, I strongly recommend that you finish reading the book Ike Guy.
Speaker 1:Well, I got another book. I got another book. That's speaking my interest. Now how am I supposed to finish?
Speaker 2:that book and that everybody who thinks that's cool take a minute to try and either pick up the book or do their Ike Guy. And if somebody doesn't want to read the book and just wants the template, I'm happy to send them a link.
Speaker 1:Cool, cool. And then what is something that you really took away from it, that you've learned from yourself in the process?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it's like it's a good question. I think in doing that, it really affirmed who I am and what I want to do with my life, which is actually a big theme in my own life, right. So I think, growing up for me, and part of the reason that I got into trouble even with my own health, is because I didn't really know who I was or what I wanted to do with my life. That's just one. Like you know, there are many layers to everything. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Onion, onion status.
Speaker 2:Onion, very onions, right. So not having a sense of purpose is a big problem in the world today, and I didn't have one for a long time. I do now. You know. So if you're not, you know, this Ike Guy exercise can help somebody with that. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:And so now going back to what kind of got you into the health issues and the lack of purpose and whatnot. What was, I guess? What was the life like prior to the matter that's sitting in front of me today?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so like, oh, like, oh, like prior to like 20 years old, like yeah, yeah, so. So you know, look, I think for me this is a great question, Nick, so thank you.
Speaker 2:So I would say that when I was a kid I I kind of would say in the area of purpose. I was always living what everyone else wanted for me or told me what told me I should do. Now, there's nothing wrong with that. Everybody in my life loves me very much. So this is not a complaint, don't misunderstand. But you know, ultimately every kid has to find their own way right. So if everybody wants to grow up to be a doctor or a lawyer and go to college and do X, y or Z or whatever, they say nothing wrong with those things, but they may not be. They may not be the things that you know you really want to do. And actually it's very difficult for any kid who's 13 or 18 or 25, whatever age to know what they want to do unless they try some things too right. So it's like now you know, I know that I love teaching and coaching because I've been doing it right. So I don't know if that answered your question, but you know. But we can go back and dive deeper into that.
Speaker 2:But I would definitely say that establishing an identity of my own for various reasons, like look, look, I was adopted. I was born into a family owned food business. So those two things are good things. And at the same time, there's another side to that coin, because I was, I was had the opportunity, I was given great opportunity right. But I also learned along the way that that's not really what I want to do with my life for the long term. Does that make sense? Yeah, so you have to find your own way. So in some way, this icky guy is very is such a helpful tool. If you're, if you're trying to figure out what you want to do with your life, this icky guy can be a very helpful tool, you know.
Speaker 1:Going back to just your childhood and dealing and the adoption and stuff like that. So what was that like growing up in that atmosphere?
Speaker 2:Oh, it's great. It was great so, but I think that the reason I mentioned it is because we're talking about identity and purpose. So there's always this like underlying, like very it's very minor, but in a way it's like it never goes away of like, not like, like trying to like, sense of trying to figure out who you are, and I think all people probably have this to some degree.
Speaker 1:I'm still trying to figure out who I am Exactly right. I'm a different person. I'm a vastly different person than I was five years ago. I mean, I would beg to differ that if I was in, I was to interact with some of my ex-girlfriends, they'd be like who are you Right? Who is this person? And that's good on me, because that means that my journey has shaped me into the experiences that I've done, Like it's shaped me into the man I am today. I don't want to be the same. I don't want to have the same outlook on life that I had 10 years ago. I want to just be more informed. I want to change. I want to because if you don't change, you die. That's pretty much what happens For sure.
Speaker 2:For sure, I think that, and I was. I was adopted at birth, so it's not like I ever knew my birth parents. I always had my parents, you know, and they loved me very much. And then and then. The other reason I mentioned the family business, which was a great thing, was that I was the fourth generation. So there was always this like back of my mind, pressure that like shoot, I don't want to be the one that like this business you know I don't want to fuck this up.
Speaker 2:So so. So those things you know were just just one piece of the puzzle for me. Yeah, two small, two small pieces of the puzzle. But listen, I'm 44 and like I'm really first starting to figure out what I love. As far as you know, career goes and I'm excited about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's good. I mean you, you take in all your experiences, you're learning from it. As far as the the food business, you're talking to me outside a little bit. It's interesting the organic food business and I'm a nutrition coach and nutrition coach Right, and actually I had a question on here that that yeah. So I had a question that says does becoming a coach in the fitness focus in time also make you a life coach? Because people are probably asking for advice on life, not just nutrition, working with you. So there's a gap that bridges between food and mental health and just everything in general, because everything is intertwined things that you're consuming physically, the things that you're consuming mentally, like everything has its purpose. But when you're talking about the organic food business and having that background, you learn a lot and you know a lot about the different foods and what they do to the body, I'm sure because you've had access to them probably longer than the term organic has been around and a buzzword.
Speaker 2:Yeah, great, this is great. So now we come back to food. Yep, okay, so I'm all over the place.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's all good. See what happens is I have? I have a general guide of, like start to finish, what I would like to ask, and you know, some notes are a little crazier than others and some some are just guidelines of where we were, where the conversation may lead, may not lead, and then as we start to have our regular conversation, we start fearing off into different topics and different things. So then, to kind of bring it back to like where the episode generally would be, I try to reel it back in like a Marlin.
Speaker 2:I got you, man. I got you. In fact, I knew that you were going to have a like a plan. You know, a Nick, a Rosology plan, yeah. But since I've been listening to so many episodes, I actually have a list of things that I want to talk to you about. Okay, I knew that we probably wouldn't even get to that list.
Speaker 1:No, it's cool, it's cool, I'm all ears man.
Speaker 2:We could save that for our future day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm all ears, man. We're going to hit a couple and hit another couple next time. I'm with any of it.
Speaker 2:So okay. So all those things you just said are connected. I'll try to wrap them in a bow. Being in the food business for 20 plus years, really growing up in the food business absolutely informs what I do today as a health coach and, yes, I've been.
Speaker 2:I am a nutrition coach, but at the same time, I could sit here and talk, I could talk to you, I could talk to clients for hours on end, all day long about food, but the reality is that most of my sessions are about change and so, yes, essentially I am a life coach. You could say that, um, even if you looked at my like LinkedIn profile, like it says, it says like life coach, cause that's just like what they have there. But so, yes, so I want to talk to you about food, like and we're going to right now. But ultimately, nick, at the end of the day, most people who have issues with most people, look, let's just dive right into it.
Speaker 2:Most people already know what to eat. They know what healthy food is. They don't need me to tell them, like that vegetables are good for you, right, right, so, like, you can Google what is healthy food. You don't need coach Matt or anybody else to tell you that Probably what you need help with if you're trying to lose weight is change, right. So, but let's talk about food. So, yes, I've been in the food business a long time and, um, I've heard some of your episodes. You've talked about some of the problems with the food industry, and they are real. They are real Scary it's scary.
Speaker 1:What's what is what is allowed is what I'll I'll. I'll just kind of briefly say it frightens me what's allowed and what is, uh, consumed on a wide scale basis. Because although we're being in a fitness mindset background, whatnot, and a lot of our connections are just that, they're fitness people, we believe that everybody has the knowledge or the general knowledge that we have on, even on a smaller scale, and they don't. They don't know that pasture raised eggs are better than cage free eggs. They don't realize that grass fed beef needs to also technically be grass finished. I mean, sometimes there's a lot of people that go, oh well, it's grain finished. It's like, yeah, man, just finished through, Let the fucking cow eat grass. Like, what's up with you? So like, there's a lot of pesticides on blueberries. Um, harder shell fruits technically don't absorb the pesticides like softer.
Speaker 1:Like the people don't realize this shit, that juice, orange juice isn't really orange juice, it's not really just fresh squeezed oranges, it's a ton of sugar. And because there's there's a lack of information on real food pyramids and real nutritional information and guidance, the general masses just go, oh well, I bought chicken and it was good, Like I figured that I'll just cook chicken for my family and that's healthy. Or I'll just get this farm raised fish because it's cheaper than the uh wild caught fish. And you know, I'm sure there's regulations in check to keep the farm raised to make sure that there aren't XYZ.
Speaker 1:Or maybe they just don't give a shit. They don't care. They see a food, they just go screw it. Salmon is healthy or tilapia is healthy, which it isn't. It's fucking gross. And they just go yeah, screw it, we're good, and they just buy it. So it gets me concerned that these things are allowed. The roundups, the glyphosates, all this bullshit is allowed in our food supply. And you know politicians want to talk about trying to have the people's best interest involved and they allow this shit to just go through because they're getting a kickback from the bigger company.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to take this in a slightly different turn that you might expect. It's a lot. Yeah, no, no, it's okay. So I'm going to say yes, and you've heard of the yes and the philosophy Okay, yes, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:So, yes, I'm down with everything you just said big time. Like, like I'm an organic food salesman. Okay, yeah, I don't, I don't, I only buy basically all the kinds of foods that you just talked about. Right, I vote with my wallet and I believe that, whenever possible, other people should too. Right, because, because these, like, mark Hyman wrote a huge book on this called Food Fix. Yep, you know, it's 500 something pages, I think, and it details the depth of this problem, and these problems are, you know, way beyond the scope of any individual to fix. Yeah, however, what you can do is here's my concern. My concern is that this can become very overwhelming for people to think about. Yeah, okay, right out the gate, and then, and then you layer in the fact that you've got, you know, everybody on Instagram and social media who are saying you know, do this, you know, be carnivore, be vegan, be paleo and then, streams, or there's right, so and then, and then it gets very confusing.
Speaker 2:So so here's my antidote for that Couple of things. First, there's no such thing as a good or a bad food. You may want to challenge me on that. I don't know if you're going to agree or not, but I thought we would talk about that.
Speaker 1:Good or a bad food. I believe that there are foods that people, their digestive tract and them in general they don't do well with. I would, I would argue that oatmeal has been plagued, played, not played. Oatmeal has been put on a pedestal as an amazing food to have for breakfast, but then when you do your research and you find out the amount of glyphosates that are in all oatmeal's not even just that you know you think you're going to buy Bob's Red Mill and it's going to be healthier for you because it's a organic and natural brand. There's still glyphosates in it and there's still extra bullshit in it and theoretically that could be very hard on people's digestive tracts. When you say there are no bad foods, are you saying that the foods in general, across the wide spectrum, they're not bad? It's how they're harvested and how they're created and cultivated. Is that what your argument is?
Speaker 2:I'll explain. I'll explain. So I totally understand and I'm down with the notion that big food, right, like big conglomerates like Monsanto and you know, all these others, whatever you know are doing things that are not good for the planet, people or the planet. So I'm on board with that 100%. But I'm just saying like I also want to remove the judgment from things. Okay, so when I say there's no such thing as a good or a bad food, I'm saying if you put an apple on this, on this counter, that's neither good nor bad, right, so it maybe-.
Speaker 1:How was the apple created, though there's there's a lot of variables in that.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll explain. So look, let me put it another way. What you said at what you said, what you said you did say something in there and what you said that I think is closer to the truth, which is it really depends on what works best for you, right? So then you have to be honest about that. Is it really working? Good, what best for you? Is it really making you healthier? Well, if you're eating Doritos all the time, probably not, right.
Speaker 2:However, it's important to to like to be non-judgmental, at least I think, about food, because when you go down the road of judging things as always being good or bad, then you end up in that, in with negative emotions, with shame, with eating problems and with all this fighting back and forth. Right, like Carnivore, paleo, you know, vegan, non-vegan, all this stuff like then that's that leads down that path. So here's what I'm saying. If you were starving on a desert island, like you could put a Snickers bar here right now, and I would not be tempted to eat it. But if I were starving on a desert island, wouldn't that Snickers bar be good?
Speaker 1:Yes, but does it mean that it's good for you?
Speaker 2:No, it would be good for me in that moment.
Speaker 1:So would it be the calories that you, that you need for the time being? Yeah, are the calories healthy?
Speaker 2:Technically, no, Well, that's an interesting question, right? So a calorie is just a calorie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, correct, macros. When it's broken down, it's a carb, a fat and a protein. But also, at the same time, how that carb, fat and protein is like, what it actually is made up of, does matter. I believe it does. I believe that I do too. I believe that, if you and I don't, I don't, no, I. I like conversations like this because it it challenges what I believe, it challenges what you believe, it challenges what people think.
Speaker 1:Yes, and you have to have different perspectives on things to you know to to be able to do stuff like that. If you're going to, you know if we're going to take a calorie from an apple and calories from a handful of sour patch kids, you know, maybe they have the same amount of carbs. A serving of sour patch kids has 32 grams of carbs. A regular apple is probably going to be anywhere from 16 to 30 grams of carbs, depending on how big the apple is. Right, carbs of carb, but what Sour patch kids are? Tons of fucking processed sugars and red dyes and that. So those calories, although calories, and just that, they're not technically good for you because of everything that they're used to create them.
Speaker 2:Okay, are you ready for my rebuttal?
Speaker 1:Please. Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 2:I actually we agree. But what I want to add, I think we're actually both saying the same thing in slightly different ways. So, yes, everything you said is true. I'm going to give you an example of where the sour patch kid is actually good for the person who's not starving on a desert island. Go for me, Okay. Post workout.
Speaker 1:Is that what you're going to?
Speaker 2:say no, no, no, no, I'm not. I said I jumped the gun. I jumped the gun, it's okay, I know that.
Speaker 1:I tried jumping the gun to be cool it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2:No, where it is is when it helps you with your adherence. So it's like Alan Aragon says in his book the Flexible Diet. Shout out to Alan Aragon, super smart guy, If adherence is everything. So the reason why most diets fail is because people can't stick to them right. So what matters most is what you can stick to ultimately. So if you need to, if you need to have three sour patch kids every Friday night in order to have the rest of your diet be super clean and make you like super Nick, then that's what you need. Then those sour patch kids and for you are good. Now, obviously, I don't recommend people eat sour patch kids unless it's going to help them hit their long-term goal.
Speaker 1:Then we go back to the original argument of there's no bad food Cellularly. That's technically not good.
Speaker 2:Okay. So are you asking me? I think, what I'm saying, I think we'll have to find a way to find common ground on this. I think what I'm saying is, in that moment, what I'm saying is what? What I'm saying, you're?
Speaker 1:saying don't demonize specific things, because everybody has a use case for them.
Speaker 2:And language matters also. And language matters, it's like. It's like, can we find a better word to use than B-A-D around food, right?
Speaker 1:So it is the same, but does that in turn make it softer, just to make it seem easier for people, instead of just calling a spade a spade? That's the question I'd say we all want to say it's bad, I'll tell you what, Nick.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so, because I've spoken to too many people who here's the reality Me and you can. Maybe there are some people who are okay. I'll concede that there are some people for whom it's okay to use the language good in bed, but there are going to be typically the minority of people who already have their health under and check and they're very consistent who have a healthy relationship with food. Then maybe I would, but the problem is that most people don't.
Speaker 1:But then we're sugarcoating it. That's the issue. I agree with you. Yeah, I do agree with you, because some people need their hand hand and they're confused and some people really need that. No, no, no, like that rub on the back and it's like. Here we can work regular things into the diet instead of like the people like me, where I've had years of experience dieting, I've had good relationship with food, I've had bad relationship with food and I've also had the years of knowledge of understanding that calories are technically calories, calories in, calories out but not all calories are created equal and it doesn't necessarily mean that because I eat 40 sour patch kids and I eat two apples and they're the same carbs, I get that it's calories, but for me, I know what created which and to me, on a cellular level, on a health level, having things like because we're using sour patch, kids as an example.
Speaker 2:And once again, not that you're we're probably going to get sued by the sour patch kid company.
Speaker 1:Fuck sour patch kids these castles. I spent mad money on this shit. All right, so the first ingredient, sugar. The second ingredient is invert sugar. The third ingredient is corn syrup, then modified corn starch, then contains less than 2% of tartaric acid Don't even know what that is. Turmeric acid, which we see in everything Natural and artificial flavors Red 40, blue one, yellow five, yellow six and titanium dioxide. That's fucking crazy, right, right right, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's all good, nick.
Speaker 1:So I personally and this is coming from a sour patch, kid addict Right Like I would eat bags, right.
Speaker 2:I will, you will never. So if you listen, you're going to hear I'm going to respond, but you won't hear the word BAD come out of my mouth.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I won't eat those. Okay, I'll probably never recommend to a client or friend that they should eat those, right, right, so but where I would be cautious of is this If we start labeling everything good or bad, right, then people go into the supermarket and they don't know what to do and they panic.
Speaker 1:But then we have to. We have to give them the options to see the good, to really unfiltered see the good, Because when they, when they, when they snake through that aisle and they go into the middle aisles, where you should be staying on the outside of the aisle because that's where the food that goes bad stays generally.
Speaker 2:Why not try it? Why not try it? Instead of being so black and white about it, though, why not consider using less black and white language and say eat these things as much as possible and eat these things as little as possible?
Speaker 1:You could do that, but then I feel like giving people options, as somebody who has yo-yo dieted for years and on and off season for bodybuilding, you know that person that has those five sour patch kids every Friday night. Oh man, those are good. The rest of the bag's right there, let me have six, maybe I'll have eight tonight. Well, it's very easy to go off the deep end by having that in your taste, versus maybe saying like don't consume these foods because Well, actually that's what I work with people on is is is going off the deep end.
Speaker 2:right, that can be mitigated, but I would.
Speaker 1:I would say that you're right and and in addition to that, and you could say I'm incorrect in things, that if you believe that I'm all ears, I've some people like free, it's a free conversation. I want to hear you're right.
Speaker 2:You're right in the way that if there's food available, you're going to eat it, Right? So if it's in the house you're, you're probably going to eat.
Speaker 1:I know that I can't have Yasso Greek yogurt bars which, which, by the way, tyler and I we house those things when we buy them and then the issue is they have seed oils in them. So now we don't buy them at all. But I don't buy them because I know I'm going to. I'm finishing that box. It's sitting in the freezer. I'm finishing the box. Right, I can't buy granola. If I buy granola, it's a wrap. That granola is gone by 24 hours. I I don't. I have a lot of self-control, but when it's in the house and I'm thinking about it, I know that I can't have it in the house. I just I don't want it there. If I had, if I buy ice cream like I had my ice cream last night, I had my one scoop If I have, if I, if I buy a pint of ice cream, pints, pints gone.
Speaker 2:So here's the thing, though here. Here's the other side of that coin. This is a cool pen, right? It's nice right.
Speaker 1:Very nice pen.
Speaker 2:You can't touch that pen.
Speaker 1:Okay, I won't touch that pen no-transcript.
Speaker 2:No matter what we do for the next hour, you can't touch that.
Speaker 1:I gotta touch the pen. I have to touch it.
Speaker 2:So no, but you see what I mean. If you tell someone they can. This is the thing is that if you tell someone that they can never eat something because it's bad, they're gonna, they're, they're gonna want it.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, they're gonna infat, they're gonna be infatuated with it, they're gonna want it even more and more. So it's which is why flexible dieting is a nice thing that has come around, and it's not so black and white.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's all I'm saying. I agree with you.
Speaker 1:I agree with you, but in my terms I have to be-.
Speaker 2:Maybe you have to be more black and white than the average.
Speaker 1:I have to be, because I have to be more rigid on the things that I know and the things I have to stick to If I'm not-.
Speaker 2:By the way, I'm very black and white For this closure like I probably eat like, and I just sat here and said that the notice thing is a good or a bad food and that you should be flexible, nick. I probably eat like more discipline than 97% of people on earth, right? So there's very few things that are in this category that you are thinking of as bad that I don't eat any of them. So I get it. I really do. I think where I'm coming from is also here. It's that I know a lot of your listeners are high-level athletes BJJ or they're very healthy, right but I think that the average person who is lost in the supermarket and overwhelmed with all this stuff that's on social media, I think they need to start with the basics.
Speaker 1:Which I agree with the basics is a great place to start, but at the same time, it just becomes like the continued softening of the world which we're seeing. It's just the constant, like not being able to say what it is that's actually happening. What is it? You know what I'm saying? Like by saying this is not a bad food. No, it's a bad food. You shouldn't consume it, or you should consume it in moderation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the other thing about the judgment that I'm why I'm such a stickler about language. It's also why I don't use the words. I have a list of curse words, coach Matt's curse words, and they are but, but, but, but, but, try T R Y, and if there's a couple others should there's a few. So language really mess. So the way we talk to ourselves really matters, the way we talk inside our heads to ourselves, the way we talk to other people and so, so. So does it matter with food also. So language around food is very important.
Speaker 2:So that's why I'm such a stickler for the judgment thing, because I have seen and worked with people who like, literally like, are like, very, very like high levels of anxiety and stress and that ultimately doesn't help them become healthier around what to eat or what not to eat. So people are sometimes shocked when I tell them you can eat whatever you want. Now, it doesn't mean there's no consequences. You can eat whatever you want and be very healthy, as long as you're aware of the consequences. Now, obviously, like you know, I'm going to promote, you know, like, eating whole foods and not having all those things that are poison, of course. But let's like remove the restriction and the judgment as much as we can and make it like actually fun to live our life and not like feel like walking into the supermarket is like torture.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just feel like you, give you, give you, give. You give people too much rope to hang themselves. That's really what it comes down to. Fair enough, that's what I've seen, but just from friends of mine that have asked me tons of dieting advice. I used to give advice to everybody. I was so tired after a while Everybody asked me when I body built, when I did all my shows and I did this and that everybody asked me for for like questions on well what can I do this I?
Speaker 1:used to write diet plans out. I used to go crazy. And this and that, two days in, they're done, two days in, they're done. I'm like what a waste of time. And I just I found that I was much stricter back then, but even still to this day, like just telling people like these are the macros you can hit and this and that, and this is what you should watch and this is what you should do.
Speaker 1:Without question, there is way too much information, way too much information, but this is this is a journey, this is a life. That's why they call it a lifestyle. This is something that you have to understand and learn every year. Like things that you thought were once healthy are not healthy anymore. You know the artificial sweeteners and all this extra stuff. It's like, oh no, it was widely accepted that these are fine. They're just, they're made in a lab and they they're not supposed to spike your insulin, isn't that? But now we find out years later which we, most of us, knew all along they do spike your insulin and they do trick your body, that you're eating calories and now you're eating and consuming sugar and it's really not good for you.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure. And also the dose really matters, important to say. It's like I used to be. I used to say like, bang my fist on the table and say read the ingredients, read the ingredients over and over again. I backed off that a little bit. I still read the ingredients of everything I buy and I recommend that people do you just read some online out loud on the air. It's important to read the ingredients, but I think it's also important not to, like I said, drive yourself into a panic over the ingredients. The dose matters. So like if you have one sour patch kid, it's not going to kill you, just one, right, but if you're eating them every day, that's going to be a problem. So you know, I think we can agree on that.
Speaker 1:Oh, without question. The people that consume soda every single day drink like a liter of Coke every once a week. It's like dude, that's so much, that's bad.
Speaker 2:And by the way I grew up, you know I, like I talked about some of the reasons why like I was had trouble finding my own way with my own health journey. Like food, obviously a huge one, right. So I grew up eating the standard American diet, eating an entire pie of pizza, eating seven bowls of garlic knots, you know. And then eventually, in college, alcohol came into the picture. So those things will kill you, you know. So the dose matters, right, so can you.
Speaker 2:So it's like I wrote a newsletter about this. Is bread healthy, right? So I've been. Depends, right. So, and that's that's my like, basically my answer to everything nowadays, the older I get, the more experience I get, the less I know, for sure, right. And so actually I respond to almost everything. When people ask me, like Matt, should I do A, B or C, or is this good or bad, I say maybe it depends, I don't know, let's see, let's find out what works best for you. So, you know, is bread healthy, right? So it depends. I haven't eaten gluten in 15 years. Okay, you can ask me about that if you want, but I've been gluten free for a before. It was cool.
Speaker 1:My mom's gluten free. She has celiac.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got just Celia. Karen, I got to give you a call.
Speaker 1:Karen Celia. She has ulcerative colitis, so which to me makes makes a little bit of sense of why I have digestive stuff.
Speaker 2:And so you know, and so is bread healthy?
Speaker 1:Well, you know, it depends, right, Sourdough is healthy Sourdough is technically healthy if it's made the right way Homemade, legit sourdough yeah.
Speaker 2:Sure, but you know, for me I don't eat gluten because it doesn't work for me. But wheat bread is fine for some people. Yeah, you know. Now, of course, the dose matters. So how much and how often? Is really the quality? Yes, the quality matters and yes, the dose matters, right? So is it true that there are good calories and bad calories? That's another book by Gary Taubes. Yes, and I will concede that. You know that Diet Coke, that I mean a calorie, is a calorie. So you know, an inch is an inch, right. So those, a unit of measure is a unit of measure, but it's not the same. I also will concede that it's not the same thing to drink a can of Diet Coke as it is to eat an apple. Those are two different things. One has lots of healthy things in it and the other doesn't, right?
Speaker 1:And fiber, right. So, whereas the soda and the sugar are just going to go right through you and spike your insulin and there's going to be nothing.
Speaker 2:But the dose matters.
Speaker 2:So, basically, what I'm saying is if you're a, if you're an obese person who needs to have one, can, if, if, what you need right now and remember, things are always changing it's a journey, right? So if you're an obese person who has, you know, who is willing to, who wants to say, you know, change their diet and start eating healthy and a whole bunch of whole foods. But in order to do that, for right now you're just not ready to give up your Diet Coke for these. And if I were coaching that person, I would say, okay, great, if you're telling me that you're going to stop eating McDonald's and all this fast food and start eating a whole bunch of whole foods and start to get, and then you just, you're just going to hold on to Diet Coke for now and maybe you'll reconsider later, of course I'm going to say yes, because that's going to get you moving forward, right, and then we can revisit the Diet Coke when you're ready. If you're not ready to give it up right now, that then then that's, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Then you need that right now, you know, yes, would it be better if you could give it up right now, of course, but if you have to do what you are actually able to do, yeah, when I when I first got my health prognosis or diagnosis, whatever it is, back when I was in 10th grade and I was 270, and they basically said like, hey, you're going to need an insulin pump if you keep getting heavier and you're what grade did they? Tell you that 10th grade Jesus yeah, I was 270.
Speaker 2:I've heard that number on the air before I mean I can't even picture you that big. I'll show you.
Speaker 1:Seeing it's seeing. It's very interesting and so anyway. So I was working with a chiropractor at the time and he basically he's he's taught me macros before before anyone really was a buzz thing.
Speaker 2:I've been dying to ask you what's your macro, what's your usual Right now?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Right now I'm at and I've been loosely over it every day. To be honest with you I'm getting a little fluffy like not fat, but I'm getting a little like my abs aren't as sharp right now so I have to get like right back on it. But it's, it's. Listen, it's Christmas. This is the leanest I've been year round. For like to be able to just chill in the holidays. I still got like the V cut, you know, on my lower abs, but my the abs right above the V is, I always gets that's like the first spot that gets a little little talk about abs too, when we're done with this point.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, but I'm eating 190 protein, I'm eating 75 fat and I'm eating You're tracking in grams, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah 190 protein, 75 fat.
Speaker 1:Yep, and I'm eating 180 carb, but, like I said, I'm probably. I'm probably like 220 to 250 carb every day Right now.
Speaker 2:So you're. So you're a lot, you're okay. So you're roughly one to one on fat, protein to carb. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, so, in preparation for coming on the show, I haven't I haven't counted my calories in a long time it's been a couple of years, but I do it and we can talk about that. That's a whole rabbit hole. Probably could do a whole podcast on that. I wanted to just kind of track my macros for the last four or five days to see where I was at. Yeah, I was using this joy. I haven't used, I didn't use the app.
Speaker 1:You use my macros. Plus is the app that.
Speaker 2:I use out of the. I use the joy app, but basically it came out like I'm eating. That's you at 270. Yeah, nice, I'll show I'll text you later a picture of me at at 220. I'm 160. Now it was. It was about 220.
Speaker 1:Yeah, You're saying it's calorie tracking and they apps.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I think I'm at. I actually eat a very high fat diet. I probably eat. I eat a ton of meat, but it turns out that I eat a lot of more fat than I always realized. I like probably 50% or more. I'm not doing a keto diet, but I just eat a lot of eggs and nuts Like I eat. I'll sit and eat eight ounces of nuts as a snack. It's like a thousand calories of fat right here yeah.
Speaker 1:So, so, but look, I mean, I do four or five whole eggs every morning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, me too. I had five eggs before I came here.
Speaker 1:I did, I did five, I did four eggs this morning and then I made Kodiak cakes.
Speaker 2:People don't realize that eggs are, even though they're considered usually a protein, they're basically almost all fat.
Speaker 1:If you look at the macros on it Five grams of fat for every egg.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so so look, you know, people, people, I'm sure people out there, especially beginners. You know a lot of your listeners are advanced with macros but beginners.
Speaker 1:Actually, truth be told, a lot of the I don't know if a lot of people that I know track macros. I think there's a, there's a good, there's a handful of people that track macros, but I do believe that for people to actually sit there and track all their food and this, and that it's a special kind of person that does that, because it's not easy and it's not, I have a. I have right now. I have a. How many days streak right now?
Speaker 2:It's hard and while you look that up, I want to hear the streak, or let me know when you get the answer. I was doing this the other day and I remembered, because it's been a while, Tracking your calories is simply, it's just not something that's connected to the act of eating and going through your day, so that's why it's hard. It's like you're going through your day. You're going through your day. You want to have a snack or something. The thought to whip out your phone and plug it in just doesn't automatically pop up. Yep, you know, while Lonnick looks that up, you know I'll. I'll say also there are many different methods of counting or tracking your calories. You can use an app, but that's not the only way. If you're curious to learn more about that, you can do it using pictures, you can do it using a paper and pen, you can do it using your hands. So there's, or you can not do it at all. So there's a wide variety of options out there for people.
Speaker 1:Can't find it. Why isn't it? It's not popping up Usually. Just I'm just making sure I didn't miss a day, because sometimes it it will. Streak is broken. Yeah, imagine the streak is broken. No, it's all the way to this. I'm the only way. In November, right now, I've been tracking I'm not my macros, plus I was on. I was on like, oh there it is 247 day streak, nice, yeah.
Speaker 2:And for some people like once they do that then they're good, like well yeah, that's like with the alcohol right now for me.
Speaker 1:I haven't been drinking alcohol since March, so it's like I'm not an alcoholic Never was I just it wasn't serving me. I didn't feel good after I drank and I want to stay mentally sharp and more and more information comes out with the carcinogenic, you know, byproducts of drinking alcohol. Even on, even on, because technically, technically, the the accepted allotment is like two drinks a week, but we all know, except by who yeah. By the by the same people that are telling us that there aren't shit in our food.
Speaker 2:They're still teaching. I don't mean to cut you off, but they're still teaching some BS stuff in school to my. I have 11 and 13 year old kids about the food pyramid.
Speaker 1:Of course, unbelievable, of course, no. What was on the food pyramid, lucky Charms, was above a stake. Yeah, yeah, go fuck yourselves. That is my statement to the health administrations and this, and that the people that give the guidances and all of these research and all of this bullshit, you know the whole. The whole. Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Speaker 2:Propaganda from from Kellogg's back in the day, it's actually some validity to the breakfast thing, by the way, About it being important.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I believe it depends on what your situation is. I always ate breakfast. I always did Listen. There's days where I fast into the afternoon, there's days where I eat breakfast. I just I don't believe that it is the important, the most important meal of the day. I believe the most important meal of the day is the replenishment after exercise, not necessarily that that catabolic or window, and I don't believe in any of that shit, but I I do believe that there is some validity to eating after an exercise to refuel your muscles, not necessarily replenish your glycogen, because it's 24 hours stores anyway and you're burning off the stuff that you ate yesterday, not the stuff that you ate just now.
Speaker 2:Right, right. Yeah, I think what's important for the average person is that they that may not be the most important thing to worry about, so I'm talking about like this is as you go, as you get deeper in your fitness lifestyle journey, you learn these things.
Speaker 2:You said something a couple of podcasts ago that I really liked. You said we were talking about fasting and you said I'm not religious about it. That's the key to me, right? It's like, like I said, don't be so black and white and try not to be so black and white. I was so glad to hear you say that, because I know you talk a lot about fasting and fast all the time.
Speaker 2:I do something called I uh, I called it situational fasting. So it means that, like, yes, I've tried, I've tried scheduled fasts, but actually what I do is it's on, I let life whatever. When life hits me with a situation that I need to not eat, then I just roll with it, and that's when I know that's when I don't eat. So that's what works for me. For some people, here's the thing, right.
Speaker 2:So, at the end of the day, losing weight or gaining weight some people have trouble gaining weight, so it could be either way. But weight balance is simple, but it's not easy, right? So, yes, calories in, calories out. If the balance is shifted, you're going to either gain or lose. That is true, right? Very simple. I just explained it in 10 seconds. But it's not easy in practice. So so here's the thing Should people do intermittent fasting or a time restricted eating or whatever variety of fasting or whatever it depends? It depends on what works best for them. So like one meal a day, that's great for some people, but it's not great for some people who want to have dinner with their family, right? So if it's going to ruin your social life, you probably shouldn't do it, right? If it works for you, that's fantastic, that's great.
Speaker 1:I'm cutting. Cutting all of your food at 8pm is sometimes tough. Yeah, If you're going to go out and have dinner with friends.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree. So there are dates. So I'd say I suggest not trying not to be so religious about it ultimately, because what happens then is this this is the same thing that happens with the judgmental thing, right, and that is, if you always labeling everything good or bad, or you treat fasting or any other methodology veganism, carnivore, paleo, whatever as a religion, as if you think it's like part of your identity, then you could be in a. It's a slippery slope, because then what happens? When you have to eat dinner after 8 o'clock? Then you feel like you broke something and now you're feeling shame and disappointment and judgment. And then what happens? When that happens? Then you're going to make more bad decisions or you're going to beat yourself up about it. So just watch that slippery slope, right? So it's like. So should you like?
Speaker 2:Fasting is a great tool for many people to reduce their calories and thus get in the right direction, whether they're trying to lose their gain, right? So it's actually. You know, I'm not so sure, and the science says that it's the fasting that actually makes you lose weight. It's the fact that, because you're fasting, you're probably eating less.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, well, there's also. There's also the point that you're you know you're not going to be able to eat more. You're you're dropping water weight and you're you're giving your digestive tract time to push everything else out. I mean, before I did the 48 hour fast, I've never felt an empty stomach.
Speaker 2:I've done 24 hours. You talked about that the other day Water.
Speaker 1:Bro Empty. It's just so weird. Your stomach literally feels flat. It's such a crazy feeling. So on the episode where Tyler and I are going to, it's actually right here a fasting episode with Tyler. We had to move it. It was supposed to be episode 79. You know we're going to go through how we got into it. What piqued our interest to try it, trying it initially, the idea behind the 24 to 48 hour fast research that backs the fasting. We want to have all of that information ready, readily available. You know the autophagy and that's another buzzword now.
Speaker 2:And it's real. It's a real thing. Your cells need to repair themselves, your cells need to repair themselves.
Speaker 1:But I think the biggest thing for me that I enjoy about the fasting is the not even the weight loss, not even the feeling tighter, because you do feel tighter when you're fasting. There's less, there's less water, weight and this and that even though you're drinking a ton. What I really enjoy about it is the break on my digestive system.
Speaker 2:That's right, that's it.
Speaker 1:Because I just, it's just non-stop.
Speaker 1:Rest in digestive, the American diet and just the widely allowed viewpoint of snacking and continuous eating and this and that it. You know, I can't say that we've all done it. We all do it, it's just. It is what it is, it's just, but it's something that is so detrimental. To stop and give yourself a reset Very important On top of like the gut microbiome and resetting your gut and how important all of that is, especially if you have insulin sensitivities and whatnot. This, a lot of this, helps you, but then how you get back out of the fast is just as important.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you right now, also regarding the sleep, the interruption of sleep. I've been wearing this whoop for like four years and without fail, and I have the data on it. Every time I have a little alcohol or or a lot, if I which I don't really do anymore, but you know or have some food late at night, my sleep is shot to hell, and the numbers show it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if I eat, if I eat too close to bed, it's, it's pretty, it's pretty detrimental to my sleep as well.
Speaker 2:You can fall asleep, but you're not getting quality sleep. That's the problem, rem, because your body is working.
Speaker 1:Yeah, rem, you're really not, so that was always something interesting to me when I was bodybuilding, a lot of the guys that I was friends with they would eat before they went to the gym, an hour before.
Speaker 2:That works for some people.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I would get so nauseous. I'm like guys all the blood flow is going to your stomach to digest. I don't want it there, I want it in my muscles that I'm working.
Speaker 2:Some people like to take in some calories, though before they maybe liquid.
Speaker 1:but yeah, that was actually the beginning of the fasting for me. I started going to the gym before COVID. I started going to the gym at five AM, six AM, and I started training with a training partner at that time and I just I wouldn't eat before because I just it was too early and training fasted. I felt better, I felt cleaner, I felt the pump better. I just there was nothing sloshing around in my stomach. So that kind of translated into years later. I just I don't eat before the gym. Generally If it's later in the afternoon or the evening I'll obviously have eaten. Usually before then I did a 24 hour fast and then I had jujitsu at night. I broke that fast two hours before jujitsu because I knew I was going to need that energy, because I had trained already in the morning. I don't want to double up and not have any calories in me. So there's exceptions. Yeah, I'm religious. I go by the same, my pants of just like where how I feel each time? And during the day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at the same time, with that said, even though I mentioned being flexible, rolling with the punches, it's also important to have discipline and consistency. So it's both sides of the same coin. Yeah, you know, most days I do the same things at the same times, more or less. You know, because that's what works for me. You have to find out. I've tried it all. I mean, I've tried training in the morning, training at night, training, empty stomach training, full post workout, pre-workout. I've done all of it right. So you know, what matters most is finding what's best for you, what you can stick to. Consistency. That's the key. Yeah, what you can be, consistency is king. So if you can be consistent with something, 80, 90% of the time, you're going to win, you're going to achieve your goal, whatever that goal is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. What are your favorite foods to consume each day, besides the meats? You said meat nuts. What type of meat?
Speaker 2:Well, eggs are my favorite food. We'll start with that. Number one.
Speaker 1:Number two so I forgot the topic of eggs. I forget who said it, but it was cool that they basically said like eggs are so good for you because it's basically just like a super food. It's a little. It's a little. It's a little baby, like chicken developing. It's got all the nutrients. It's got everything that you need in there. I know people don't want to hear that, but it is what it is.
Speaker 2:If I can't get any eggs to the supermarket, I'll just go eat a baby chicken.
Speaker 1:Just right there, anybody got any baby chickens Crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so eggs are my favorite food, though, because they are. They have a high like awesome profile of macro and micronutrients.
Speaker 1:Which is important. Micronutrients are super important. We get too stuck on the macro. We lose focus on the micro.
Speaker 2:Totally. And also eggs are like just think of it. There's some practical wisdom that should have been passed down for generations that like we shouldn't ignore either, like eggs are. I'm about to break my own rule Eggs are a good food.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, get this guy out of here, bro. He just said we weren't talking about good and bad foods. Invited him.
Speaker 2:Right, but you know what I mean, right. So my other favorite I'll ask you. I'll answer your question about meats, but my second favorite food is nuts. I love almonds.
Speaker 1:Okay, which almonds are way better than peanuts? Because peanuts have high mold count a lot of the time.
Speaker 2:Peanuts are not technically not a nut, they're a legume. Yep, I'll eat a few peanuts here and there, but it's just not. It's not really in my heart. I like peanut taste better than almonds.
Speaker 1:but knowing that information of the background and all this stuff, I've been focusing more on consuming almonds versus I keep it simple.
Speaker 2:I don't want to get into too many rabbit holes here. By the way, I roast my own almonds. I buy them raw and roast them in the oven at a very low temperature so that they'll, I'd say like about 20, 30 minutes at like 200 degrees, very low temp, with maybe a little you could do it dry maybe a drop of coconut oil. But that way I'm not getting the processed, you know, drenched in in cottonseed oil or canola oil, roasted and burned from the store.
Speaker 1:Is that what they do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so roasted nuts are typically done with cheap in cheap quality oils and I don't want that in my body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not shocked. I mean, they're going to cut corners anywhere they, anywhere they can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you want me to text you how to do it at home, it's very simple, yeah sure, the recipe Texting me I'll put in the show notes too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, super easy, anyone could do it. You could buy raw almonds and roast them yourself, raw cashews, whatever you want, but going to the meat. So my, I actually have. I'll describe it this way it's more of a template. I have a template for food shopping and thus a template for what I'm going to eat all week long, and it's pretty simple. When I go, it starts with the food shopping. This is again. Most people need the basics, right, so I love that. We talked about all this other stuff, all this what I would call like level two, like fancier stuff, but honestly, most people just need to learn how to food shop and plan and prepare. That's the number one thing.
Speaker 1:It doesn't need to be an exciting fridge. Yeah, that's the unfortunate truth. It doesn't have to be exciting and I have to remind myself that a lot of times because I'll look and I'll be like, well, I have a freezer full of meat, I have eggs, I have kimchi, I have some rice and this and that, and I just go. I need to go food shopping and I just buy a bunch of extra shit like the complimentary stuff.
Speaker 2:Don't buy stuff You're not going to cook. That's the worst.
Speaker 1:Oh dude, I waste vegetables all the time. I'm the worst.
Speaker 2:Frozen by frozen.
Speaker 1:Yes, bakchoy, I constantly buy bakchoy and then when I cook it it doesn't come out the right way and I just get irritated.
Speaker 2:My choice is pretty easy to cook Just stir fry. I steam it first, then you can give it a quick stir fry for some flavor. Okay, yeah, so steaming, so okay. So let's talk a little bit about shopping, cooking templates and food, and then also that's what I like to eat. So this will answer all those in one. I keep it simple, like, I've been cooking 90% of my food for a decade, but I'm not a chef, right? My food doesn't look fancy, but here's how I do it, right? So I buy three to four proteins every time I go to the supermarket. Three to four fruits, three to four vegetables and a whole bunch of eggs, right, and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1:So now how many eggs last you a week?
Speaker 2:Well, I have a family of four. We go through five or six dozen Damn. Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got just me and Kenji. Kenji gets one raw egg every couple of days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, maybe when you get that farm I'll move out next door and we can grow some-.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna have some chickens. I'm getting some chickens, I'm afraid, truth be told, I'm afraid he's gonna eat them, though they have high prey drive Akitas and Shiba Inus, like those-.
Speaker 2:You're gonna be a big coop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but at the same time I know he'll keep away the foxes.
Speaker 2:So a couple, all right. So which proteins? Which fruits, which vegetables? I buy the ones I like. I buy ground chicken, ground beef, I'll do a roasting, I'll roast a whole. I'll get a whole chicken and roast it. That's the best you could say. You know, if you buy a whole organic chicken, it's like three bucks a pound. If you buy the chicken breast boneless, skinless, which is missing a lot of good stuff it's missing the skin, it's missing the dark meat, it's missing all the fat it's also like $12 a pound. Yeah Right, so why not just? And I'm just telling you, if anyone out there is afraid to roast a chicken, it's really not that hard to do.
Speaker 1:I've converted to chicken thighs versus chicken breast. Oh, chicken thighs, chicken thighs.
Speaker 2:So, but the key is and I have all this template that I'm describing I actually have. If anybody wants it, I'll send it to them. I have it in writing and basically the key is, when I come home from the supermarket like I'm probably usually on Saturday or Sunday I start cooking right away. So that way I minimize the spoilage. There's almost. I almost I'll never have any spoilage right. So it's now.
Speaker 2:I'm good at this because I've been doing it for so many years and you may not do it exactly like I do, but you maybe can take something away from what I'm about to say, which is whatever you buy, come home batch, cook a bunch of it right away, build that two hours, two, two and a half hours into your schedule this before you. I don't even put half my stuff in the fridge or freezer. I start cooking oven on while I'm putting the other things away and start cooking. So now, right away, I'll roast a chicken and roast two, maybe three pounds of broccoli and three pounds of potatoes, right, all while I'm putting away the groceries, while I'm doing other things, while I'm listening to the Rizology podcast, literally right. So now I'm habit stacking right.
Speaker 2:I'm learning, I'm cooking, I'm doing things, multiple things at one time. Then, when that's all out, now I have like 10 pounds of food cooked in the fridge. I'll probably eat a plate right there because it's hot and fresh, and then I've got food for like the next three days done. Now I've removed the friction. It's like going to sleep in your gym clothes, right? Cook ahead of time, batch cook ahead of time. Now I probably have to batch cook Now throughout the week. I'll cook a few other things, but I always have these components ready to add in the essentials.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. Now, if I wanna make a little rice on, you know, tuesday night, I've got the vegetables already done. It's so much easier when you take, when you, by the way, when you batch cooking, I can't speak. I can't say it enough strongly enough. If you batch cook, meaning you cook three to six different foods at one time, that is infinitely more efficient than cooking three to six different foods at three to six different times. You gotta stop, you gotta start, you gotta clean. But if you batch it all into one session, that's only one time starting, one time stopping and one round of dishes to clean. That's it. So you know, get good at that and you will be sending your whole week up for nutritional success Cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and speaking of the dishes, what I find crazy is I have my dishwasher and it's constantly going every day between me and him. It's constantly going, constantly going. There's a study now that shows that you get a ton of microplastics from the dishwasher fluid and pods. I was just throwing it out there.
Speaker 2:Just letting him and washing everything, just letting people know. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna throw it out. So I have my dishwasher, but the way that gets almost 90 to 95% of it off is just by rinsing it after it comes out of the dishwasher. Interesting, so just figure. I give that little tidbit about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think we're in the wrong business. We need to go into, like, eco-friendly home building. Oh my God, it's too many dishes. That's the whole industry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's just too much shit now. There's just too much shit to go over. What's your favorite cut of meat?
Speaker 2:Okay, favorite cut of meat? Good question. I was gonna my gut was gonna answer with steak because that was like the manly thing to say, but honestly I love roasted chicken.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Okay, I really do. I mean, I love a good steak and I love a piece of salmon, but I think I do have to say roasted chicken. Okay, you get the skin crispy. I'm a ribeye guy.
Speaker 1:A ribeye Super rare.
Speaker 2:I'll have both at the same time.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I love that. I don't mind, I love that. Do you wanna ask a couple of questions from the side that you had? You know, I don't know, man, because we've been going for two hours. It's been two hours In two hours.
Speaker 2:I think we should. We probably saved some of those things. I wasn't expecting to ask you questions, you know.
Speaker 1:You didn't ask me, how about you ask me one? One yeah ask me one. I'm fine with a good one. Ask me one and then we'll set a date to come back in 2024, my goodness, I know. I'm so glad 2023 is almost done.
Speaker 2:This year has been great and shitty all in the same All right, let's see, let's think one thing that we didn't talk about, one thing that we didn't talk about, let's see, we talked about. All right, now you know what. We covered a lot of these things. But you know, is that funny what happens? Yes, it's all good. I think what I'll say is this the one thing that we didn't cover, that's on that list that I'll mention that it might tie a few pieces together is this I had a little note there.
Speaker 2:It was like you, I just had notes and just see where it flows. Yeah, I had a note there alcohol and purpose, right. So what does that mean? I mean I've been hearing you talk a lot. First day I met you, you told me we were at that fight and I wasn't drinking. And you weren't drinking and you were like, no, I'm not drinking. We talked a little bit about that and you got me thinking. Now, since September, since I did my first version of my own icky guy, I did have a drink on my birthday, but I've noticed that because I'm focused on highly focused on who I want to become and what I want to do and who I want to serve, in other words, my purpose, my icky guy, the desire to drink alcohol, which I have a long history with, is almost gone.
Speaker 2:So I just thought I would bring that up and say, like, even another one is like. I know it's different for everyone, but I know you've talked about this with other guests and I just think it's an important message for people to hear. I'm not saying quit drinking, that's not what I'm saying, but I think that there's just it's something for people to think about. Like it really messes up your health right Big time. Okay, so there's a time there's a dose, there's probably a dose that's like relatively safe, but then there are many doses that you might not even be aware of how badly they're messing you up, among all the other things that that heavy alcohol consumption leads to gets yourself into trouble, gets your friends and family in trouble, get into trouble and relationships. But the purpose, I think what I would say. I'll speak for myself now.
Speaker 2:I don't wanna preach, but like when I was a little more lost and a little bit without a purpose, I know that I was turning to alcohol to try to fill that void right, and so nowadays I noticed that I have a higher, more tuned in sense of purpose. I don't feel the. I barely ever feel the need to drink, so I just hope that that's helpful for some people and yeah, am I saying I'm quitting drinking? No, if I wanna have a celebratory drink here and there, I might, I might, but most of the time, if you take a minute to take maybe a deep breath and pause and ask why do I really want this drink, you might realize, like the other day, I took my son to a football game and we had a great time, which is me and my son.
Speaker 1:Now, as you know, going to a football game is heavily associated with drinking right, which it shouldn't be, because that's when everyone gets into fights about the teams and everything.
Speaker 2:Now I felt this like we're walking by the tequila bar oh, they have the beautiful tequila bar. I love tequila, right. I don't know, I'm not even a beer guy, I'm gluten-free, right. I felt this like like, should I get a drink, should I not? It's a battle in my head. I ended up not getting it, but it's like there are these things that stay with us. Now this applies to food too, right? So there are these things that stay with us. It's like I said, like I used to grow, I grew up eating pies, a pizza and baskets of bread, so I'm always gonna be attracted to bread. It's never gonna fully go away. It's never gonna be. There's never a day on your journey and your health journey that your past struggles will be completely gone. They'll always be a part of you.
Speaker 1:Hey Kenji.
Speaker 2:So, and that's the same for food and alcohol too. So I'll always be attracted, at some times and places, to alcohol. But I think when you have something like an icky guy going for you or you can fight it with that In fact, not even fight it it can relieve that. That's all I wanted to say. I wanna see what you thought about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. I mean, the longer the streak, the longer. I don't wanna drink. It kinda helps you get set in your ways and set in stone. When Tyler and I our buddy Matt got married to Kristen, his wife now this past what was that November? We didn't drink at the wedding, I think I said in an Instagram post the next day that was like the first time I've ever been at a wedding and I haven't been drunk, and that wedding lasted a lot longer than any wedding previously. Weddings seemed to go by in a flash.
Speaker 2:It was actually the same at a time.
Speaker 1:You just experienced it Exactly so I actually got to enjoy and have conversation and enjoy the food and this and that and I don't know. I think that there is. I think there's a certain level of power that you regain when you don't let these external factors control you anymore, and not that it ever did for me. I was never a big partier. I was never a big drinker. I never really did any drugs. I think the hardest shit I ever did was weed and I'd smoked maybe 10 times my entire life and every single time. Not that I regretted it, I just kinda was like why am I doing this? I don't know. It's just everybody does it, or it seems like everybody my age is doing it, so fuck it, let me just see if I enjoy it. And the same thing goes with the drinking. But when you stop allowing these things to have a power over you and the potential judgment of others and this and that, and people actually look at you and they see a different side of strength that wasn't necessarily present in front of them at other times. So when they look at you and you're not indulging in alcohol and everybody else is, and you're sitting there and not mean or straight faced, but you're just more in tune with what you want out of life and what you actually are getting out of it, versus just, hey, going with it, yeah, let's get fucking ripped and this and that, and then the next day is fucked up. Then you miss your workout, then you feel horrible. Or you drank too much and now you're sick and you're throwing up. I don't know, there's no right or wrong when it comes down to it, but I believe that keeping yourself on the straight and narrow monk life you know what I'm saying you don't have to be a monk to practice monk life stuff. But monk life to me means like not indulging in societal norms, the overindulgence of porn, the overindulgence of alcohol, weed vapes If I see another grown ass fucking man smoking on a little pink vape like bro, get it together, dude.
Speaker 1:Like I have friends that vape, you know shout out to my boy, anthony. I love Anthony to death. I really use good dude man. I do a lot of videos for his construction company, good dude. Every time he's with me, though, he's got that fucking vape in his hand, and every time I go, bro, stop doing. And he's coughing, I'm like dude, what are you doing? Stop bro. It's a stupid little thing Like I get it, oh it's so hard. Not him saying this, but other people like, oh, it's so hard to quit, I get it, but like you're not even trying.
Speaker 2:Throw it out. That's not curse words. There we don't use the T words.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, you're not even attempting, let's say You're not even attempting to do it, you're just. You're not even putting the first step of action into it, like you said before. The motivation doesn't come like.
Speaker 2:You have to do the action first you have to take an action.
Speaker 1:The first action is throwing the fucking thing out because you're not gonna use it if you don't own one.
Speaker 2:Sometimes that requires an honest conversation first, also right. So if the person is in, if the person's not ready or willing to stop doing A, b or C, whatever it is, vaping, alcohol or eating you know, fast food every day, whatever the case may be, sometimes someone will come to you and say, hey, I wanna I'll use the weight loss example, because this is one I deal with, so they'll come and we can tie it back to vaping. So sometimes someone will come to me and say, hey, I wanna lose weight. So I'll say, okay, we have come to have a conversation and we'll say, well, why don't you do X, y or Z? And then they don't do X, y or Z. Okay, well then the conversation has to go back to the beginning. Okay, because what do you really want here? If the person doesn't wanna quit vaping, then you mean.
Speaker 1:No, generally they don't Right. So they know they need to, but they don't want to because they're so engrossed and hooked into it because of the addiction. So I understand, but food's an addiction as well, like when I was fat. Do you think it was easy for me to just like quit everything that I knew and just start to get into it? Not at all, even this past year. All the training styles that I'm doing now. I never did, but I knew I needed to switch things up. I knew I needed to focus on eating better foods. Even though I knew all of this, I just didn't apply it. But now the application went into effect and I've been good and I'm staying on that path because I'm not starting over. That's the whole point. I'm not gonna re-lose the weight. Like there's a difference between getting a little fluffy. For me that's adding. That's a pound up. I'm a pound and a half up from my lowest point, totally normal.
Speaker 2:I go up and down. By the way, I fluctuate. Yeah, plus or minus five pounds.
Speaker 1:That's fluffy for me right now. So I'm staying focused and guess what? What I did from March to let's just call it for the summer, let's call it to June, dropping from 230 down to 190. I mean, that's no small feat and it took a lot of work and it took a lot of dedication. So you have to apply it, you have to do it, and I believe that these things are not only money makers for large corporations and organizations and whatnot, but they do it to keep people suppressed in a lot of different ways Health wise, it's a full circle.
Speaker 1:Health wise, mentality wise, all this shit. It's really. That's a whole other episode. It really is, but it's really bad. And by breaking some of these societal norms and the things that are culturally acceptable, you do stand not that you're better than other people, but you do stand in a higher plane of mental clarity and enlightenment. And once you do wake up, I believe that there's a full scale waking up of the entire world. Right now, I agree, and I don't know where that leads us, but I do believe that we're starting to be clued in, that we've been lied to for a long time. You're a part of that, by the way. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm trying to be in, I'm trying to get the message out, and this isn't a left or a right thing. This isn't a. Andy Frisela says the best thing ever. He's not, and this is just on the topic of like sides. He's not Republican, he's not libertarian, he's not Democrat, he's not conservative.
Speaker 1:And once he said this, it just fucking clicked for me, cause I usually say I'm conservative, I sit in the middle. Listen to that, because I don't like anybody. But, realistically, what he said is actually what I'm going for. I'm going to say Go for it, I'm pro-freedom. I'm pro-freedom. I don't care what fucking side, I don't care any about any of this shit. I am pro you being free, getting to do what you want, thinking for yourself, not being a slave to the system, because, when it comes down to it, we all are the foods that we consume, the taxes that we pay, the laws that they put into effect over the health of our citizens. It's not, it's all to keep us at a low point and not hit that higher frequency. And it really needs to be more publicized and spoken about on a more mainstream platform, instead of making a left versus right, a right versus wrong, you like how I said that. Yes, right versus wrong, a bad versus good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's what it's about.
Speaker 1:It really has to be just a conversation. It has to be the. If you believe that, it doesn't mean that you're incorrect. That's your belief system. That's cool, man, but just understand that this may change the way that you think or may change your existence.
Speaker 2:That's why I said, when I said in the beginning about values, and I know we're gonna wrap it up- I just keep looking at Kendrick.
Speaker 1:you make sure he's laying down, it's all good.
Speaker 2:Sometimes he'll sneak up on you, but you're out there, you're making people think okay With, especially when you go, even though you have guests on. And then you sometimes go into these Nick Rizology tangents of you.
Speaker 1:You know you have to rance a lot.
Speaker 2:That's part of the reason why people listen, because you're making them think and you're telling it like you see it, without any filter, and people respect that. So I respect that Well.
Speaker 1:I'm tired of seeing things with filters and I've always been like this and I appreciate you saying that you respect that. That means a lot to me because you're a man that has a lot of life experience, a lot of growth, development and stuff like that. So when somebody in your position says that you respect what I'm talking about and the ideas that I bring to the table, not only does that make me feel like I'm doing something right, but it does make me feel good that I'm able to touch people's lives like that as well. So, thank you, we need that.
Speaker 1:But I just there's been so much fluff over the years. So much fluff I mean the suppression of voices on every side. The ideology is just being shot down before you can even have a conversation about it. Just the bullying on all sides.
Speaker 1:And these people say that they're against bullying. It's like no, no, no, you are a fucking bully and you're not allowing people to think and do things themselves. But it's really because they're afraid of when people actually start bringing these ideas and these talking points or these different perspectives that make people think and make people understand that things aren't what they've been told their entire existence, that they're afraid now that the resistance or the pushback of no, no, no, you're wrong. They just want to be told they're right all the time because they have a platform. Well, now there are 500 other people with microphones in front of them and some of that information may be incorrect, some of it may be correct, but people can actually make their judgment calls now. They're not just owned by CNN, they're not owned by Fox, they're not owned by XYZ and purging the stories that they deem fit for people to follow as their disciples. It's really about take all of this information and form your opinion. That's what I've always been about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree. For those who are listening, who don't have a microphone, there are other ways to think and vote for yourself. You don't have to. I'm a big fan of change Vote with your wallet.
Speaker 1:I love when you said that, by the way.
Speaker 2:Change from the bottom up, right. So I'd love to fix the food system, but I can't do that alone. But I can make play my. Whatever I go shopping, I buy the brands that I know are not killing the planet. Yeah, so the more believe it or not? Yeah, but they're a hidden cost to buying heavily subsidized right. So if you buy conventional foods that are loaded with garbage, right, and even though they're cheap at the checkout, at the register, you're actually paying for them in your taxes because we subsidize those companies to be so cheap. So you don't think about that when you're checking out, but you're paying for it, right. So you can vote with your wallet and you can lead by example, right, even if it's just in your own home, yeah.
Speaker 1:You have to be in grocery costs now for the quality food Even though you don't want. I don't want to pay for it. I can afford it, but I don't want to pay for it, or you pay for it in your health later on too At the doctor and into taxes yeah.
Speaker 1:No Matt, yeah, nick, oh man, it was a good day. It was great, bro, Awesome. I appreciate you. You're an amazing human. I'm very glad that we got to link up that day with Scott Big time, and this is the start of a really great friendship.
Speaker 2:I can't thank you enough for having me on. It's been great. It's been great. It's been great. We'll talk about vitality next time, which is a word that we didn't talk about, but we'll save that right Write it down.
Speaker 1:We got it for the next episode Vitality. Vitality for any type of coaching, information or anything like that. People that want to work with you or pick your brain. Maybe you get some eyeballs on and they're interested. How can they reach you?
Speaker 2:I appreciate that. So, look, I'm really easy to reach. It's at coach Matt Freed on all social media handles LinkedIn, instagram, wherever the easiest way to get in touch with me. If you like what I have to say, I have a free newsletter. It takes five minutes to read. You can subscribe links in all my bios comes out every Saturday.
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