We shift gears to the powerful simplicity of fasting and its profound impact on our mental and physical states. Discover with us the sharpening effects of various fasting methods, from 16/8 to OMAD, as they echo ancient hunting rituals and modern-day health goals. We cast a light on the practicality of post-fast meals, the misunderstood role of electrolytes, and even the unexpected fashion critiques that weave through our festive banter, sharing personal tales and inviting you to join our collective quest towards clarity and health.
Wrap up your listening experience with an insider's peek at breaking a fast without breaking your stomach, balancing post-feast nutrition, and the intriguing transition into ketosis. We'll also dish out doses of humor and heart as we recount our own fasting follies and triumphs—like the tale of a 60-hour fast that tested our resolve—while weaving in the benefits of supplements like L-Arginine for overall vitality. And because we're more than just a podcast, we extend the heartfelt invitation to fast alongside us, fostering a community bond as strong as the resolve to skip that next late-night snack.
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We shift gears to the powerful simplicity of fasting and its profound impact on our mental and physical states. Discover with us the sharpening effects of various fasting methods, from 16/8 to OMAD, as they echo ancient hunting rituals and modern-day health goals. We cast a light on the practicality of post-fast meals, the misunderstood role of electrolytes, and even the unexpected fashion critiques that weave through our festive banter, sharing personal tales and inviting you to join our collective quest towards clarity and health.
Wrap up your listening experience with an insider's peek at breaking a fast without breaking your stomach, balancing post-feast nutrition, and the intriguing transition into ketosis. We'll also dish out doses of humor and heart as we recount our own fasting follies and triumphs—like the tale of a 60-hour fast that tested our resolve—while weaving in the benefits of supplements like L-Arginine for overall vitality. And because we're more than just a podcast, we extend the heartfelt invitation to fast alongside us, fostering a community bond as strong as the resolve to skip that next late-night snack.
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945 at night. All I can think about is like a, like a bean and cheese burrito. Bean and cheese. Yeah, when's the last time I had Taco Bell? I can't even think the intrusive thoughts are winning right now. Tell you that much. My intrusive thoughts are fucking getting them.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you what I haven't had like actual fast food, mmm, I Can't even remember. I can't remember the last time I had like Taco Bell or something like that. I can't remember the last time that I actually went not only went there, but purchased it and then Consumed it. Chipotle Does. Do we count Chipotle as fast?
Speaker 1:as casual. I don't really put Chipotle and like the same thing, as like you went and got Taco Bell.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say like some people do no, no, no, weird some people do to me. I don't, I don't believe that it is. Yeah, they're just wrong. Yeah, like a cute, a cute. I don't believe cute Do this fast food.
Speaker 1:Can we stop?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna call up Jake right now. Chelula chicken, though we should call it Jake up right now. Just be like yo for Karen be like who the fuck is this? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Nick. Nick who's that we met at the gym like once dude.
Speaker 2:Imagine I'm like we shot a video for rain too. That's weird that you don't remember that. Yeah, I, I, chipotle Cudoba, tony's tacos yeah, but that doesn't count either doesn't count that doesn't count.
Speaker 1:So then, what the line is drawn when it's a when it's like a major corporation with a million different chains. Now I know you're gonna chip. Only I know it's the same thing, has it. But you got to talk about quality Because if I get, because you gotta go, you go to Chipotle. I could see fucking the guy in the back. You know you're cheffing it up.
Speaker 2:You can see him mashing the avocado.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I see him actually love when they mash a good Kato. Come on, you know I love a Kato, but you know what I love even more is the fact that I could see him actually cooking a real chicken on a Like a flat top grill and they use seed oil, so that's the problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well load me up.
Speaker 1:We have. It's better than them pulling in. You know you go into McDonald's and they pull out a fucking a sleeve of chicken nuggets out of a Yellow tray, have you?
Speaker 2:seen the video of the McDonald's chicken nuggets, what they actually look like pink shit, pink fluff Look in marshmallow stuff, man, but I'll tell you what that was a treat.
Speaker 1:Oh, I can sit there and get a 20 piece Fuck pop. Well, when you were, younger or currently like we're at your all that shit right now. No, I wouldn't do it right now, but like okay, let's say you're not in your health food era.
Speaker 2:Well, you would. You would go consume chicken nuggets for McDonald's not really.
Speaker 1:Actually. I'll tell you what. The last time, the last time, I think I, the last time I had McDonald's must have been a long time ago. Yeah, I'm talking Years.
Speaker 2:I can't even remember the last time I had it might have been. When I slept at my cousin Mike's house when I was like I must have been 17 years old, I must have been 17 years old. I slept over Mike's house. We were all hanging out me, him and Karen. And Karen stole the flag the last time you had been years. It was the last time you had been day. And then Karen stole the flag from the growth of the gas station, karen's great. It was a big smiley face flag yellow, oh he needed and they used to go to the Bordy barn.
Speaker 2:So he said, yo, this would be perfect to breathe the barn, I have to get that. So he goes, nick, watch out, cover me and I go, cover you. How, I'm 17 years old, looking around, what the fuck you mean? Cover you and I. And he pulls the car over, gets out of the car and he you know Karen, he like sneaking around and the Indian dude that runs the spots like looking, he's like he, you know, you know someone's there. Yeah, you could tell that he knew someone was there. He's like looking around and look at and then all of a sudden, karen just sprints out, he grabs the flag and he running towards the car like an Olympic pole valter.
Speaker 2:The car goes Nick, get it and I go get what. He threw it through the back window, through through the back window. I held it. We drove back to Mike's house, yeah, and then he put it in Mike's lawn. We kept it there all night and but he goes inside and he goes a butter, butter, go outside, check out the lawn. I know you see is the big smiley face playing for even in the wind.
Speaker 1:They were dying. Your neighbors, his neighbors must have fucking hated him. Oh hey, did him hated him.
Speaker 2:That's the last time. That's the last time I believe I had McDonald's, but I always did like Burger King better. I could see that I was younger. I always like Burger King better. I thought they had better french fries and I thought they had the onion rings yeah and chicken fries and Wendy's man, you can't go wrong with a Wendy's with a frosty and dip the french fries in the frosty.
Speaker 1:Wendy's I've had much more recent and I could tell you Exactly the last time I had Wendy's I had. The last time I Wendy's was when I was working the pop-ups, because when I would leave it was like to like 1, 30, 2 o'clock in the morning. Only thing opened it. Mind you, I hadn't eaten probably in eight, nine hours. I'm like damn, I got to get some sort of calories in right now and they would be Wendy's open on the way back home, like like the, like a white castle in the, yeah, the glowing white castle in the distance just going.
Speaker 1:And then half the time they were open but not open. They just weird. In the side there's a fuck up. You just sitting there making loot and just doing nothing. And why is the ice cream machine always broken at McDonald's, I don't know. But quick McDonald's story for you, talk to me.
Speaker 1:So it was me, gary, and this kid, this other kid that we used to hang out with. Just to Gary, yeah, I learned Gary. Gary's back home. He's working on his, his tech route. He was out in rear change. He was out in LA. Right, he's still come. Yeah, he's, he still lives in LA, but he's back home spending time with mom, fam. She's doing some studying at home. Different environment for him, being around his boys. And you know me and Gary definitely chopped it up About what he's got going on next. So I'm super, super pumped for him.
Speaker 1:Anyway, so this is a phase when we were big into like the, the house music club scene, when we were in the team nights and stuff and shit like that. So we were must, we must have been 15, 16, we there's an IDJ now and I don't know if it's still there in like North Babylon, let's call it, and we lived in Lindenhurst. His mom, gary's mom, dropped us off at IDJ. Now she wanted to leave. We weren't done looking at all the shit and I tell them, oh no, we'll just walk back From North Babylon to Lindenhurst on Sunrise Iowa Damn, that is a trip.
Speaker 2:You're lucky You're looking beat with two by fours on this. Gonna get to that too.
Speaker 1:We got. We must have gotten like a mile and a half I go. How much longer do we have? We had a long fucking time we, but we hitchhiked. Some guy actually picked us up and we hitchhiked to fucking McDonald's on Sunrise Iowa. You get the burger for per hitchhiking, you know but he gave us a lecture on how we shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 2:So we got you know you guys shouldn't be out here doing this Zip.
Speaker 1:It's like oh my god sir, all right, buddy beat, but not that kind crazy. I wanted a burger, not cock. Yes, I didn't know McDonald's had hot dogs. I. Didn't know they were selling ballpark frags, yeah, but uh, so we fucking, so, we fucking get this lecture from this guy. He had a convertible, something like real, like what the fuck were we doing, 16 years old how?
Speaker 2:and what time is this?
Speaker 1:at night it was actually like in the middle of the day, so it was okay, but still like 16 year old kids, not sketchy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah. No good sketchy. The world's the world's sketchier than it is. It's the world's sketchier currently than it was back then well, I almost got abducted when I was a kid.
Speaker 1:Right on my front lawn I had you really fucking weird. Oh, it was my neighbor. He tried fucking at the time. He was a neighbor but he tried fucking learning me into his car. Oh, I was like fucking 11 or 12 years old sketch and I ran inside, told my dad my dad was like my dad. He goes, yeah, you know it might not have, you know, really been that. I'm like no, no, no, he was trying to get me into his car, like I had promised you, but either way, he promised candy and I didn't see candy so I ran.
Speaker 2:I can't remember exactly what he?
Speaker 1:asked me, but I know what happened. It was and I could tell you what the car was. It was a fucking gray old, old like you know that grayish gold color on, like the older model, yeah almost like a tan. Yes, it's like a tan, but it was a Ford something and it had like this weird hatchback bubble-looking car.
Speaker 2:I will never forget it, you know there was a, there was a station going on in a bubble back like that.
Speaker 1:There was a young girl in the back of the car who I remembered was a, was somebody's sister, and I just like and I told this to my parents. I don't know what they did with the information, obviously I'm not, you know, old enough to remember that, but I that I remember.
Speaker 2:What happened? Did the was? No, fucking clue, no okay, but was the girl ever missing?
Speaker 1:I don't think so. Okay, so maybe he fucking had his way and dropped her off. Oh, oh, I really don't know he was a weird fucking looking cat and he lives on my well. I don't know if he still does, but he lived on my block, yeah that's what they want to do.
Speaker 2:They want to build rapport.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah that's why.
Speaker 2:That's why creepy fucking pedophiles will go. Oh, your mom sent me and this and that try to lure kids in exactly bro, I remember, I do, I remember.
Speaker 1:it was yesterday, traumatic fucking experience.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm sure back inside.
Speaker 1:I was like fuck, but yeah, welcome welcome, yeah, I mean episode episode 81.
Speaker 2:We just kind of just ripped it, ripped it, and we're definitely not here to talk about that. I mean, I hope you guys enjoyed it. This is what we do. Yeah, first and foremost, this will be released on Saturday or Sunday at the latest. Uh, merry, fucking Christmas everybody. Merry, are we allowed to say that? We're allowed to say that I'm gonna fuck too? So I Well, I'll tell you what. So I said a couple of happy holidays to people, because I just don't want to get in the debate of, like whether they celebrated or not. And one of the people that I'm friends with, and she was just like, don't say that. She's like say Merry Christmas and this and that yeah even if they don't, even if they don't celebrate.
Speaker 2:It is what it is, and I and I send somebody anyway, and I agreed you're gonna offend somebody anyway. Every something that I say, everyone's got something to fucking say on the internet. It's like whatever, bro, I can't. I can't please everybody. If you celebrate I Any other holiday, hanukkah, kwanzaa, whatever you celebrate.
Speaker 1:Happy belated.
Speaker 2:Let me know after, just be like oh hey, I appreciate that, but I celebrate XYZ. Oh, happy Hanukkah, sick I. I hope you had a great Hanukkah. I hope you had a great Kwanzaa. Break out the dreidel. That's it. Do it? Actual question what do they do during Kwanzaa? Is there gift-giving?
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm actually very have not and I don't foresee myself Celebrating Kwanzaa. Super, super curious. We have anybody out there. It's celebrating Kwanzaa. Put me on. Yeah right, I don't know, I'm trying to. I'm trying to get involved there's I'm all for, and I like to figure and consider myself a very Cultural, diverse person and I need to get into a Kwanzaa cultural, a cultural melting pot of a human being. If you look up cultural melting pot of human being, you're gonna get a picture of me, just you, right there, just sit there like the mr Sauce, it's not. You know what that reminds me of? You know you see the tiktoks with a luali mark, the guy that fucking doon doon, doon. Oh, dude, I'm gonna show you absolutely a fucking great.
Speaker 2:Kwanzaa, the pan-African holiday that emerged in 1996, highlights African-American culture 96.
Speaker 1:That's it pretty early. We're even 30 in early. Oh shit, I'm holding it Kwanzaa.
Speaker 2:And heritage in the US. From December 26th to January 1st, along with enjoying a feast with loved ones, love that it also involves giving gifts. Okay, the 25 best one to give to honor African-American history and culture. What are the 25 best gifts I?
Speaker 1:don't know, it's gonna be Amazon hot holiday items. It's a hot tub. Yeah, I was gonna be like, yeah, but it's gonna be an Amazon breath. What's it? A Amazon Alexa? Yeah, yeah, they're on sale on the 999 Kwanza, canara candle set.
Speaker 2:Delight the Kwanza decor lover in your life with these taper candles. They'll get three red and green candles along with one black one to represent the seven principles, and if they're new to celebrating the holiday, the candles are labeled, making it easier to determine which one should be lit for the day. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:You know what that's? There's like a intro to Kwanzaa.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm celebrating next year. I can celebrate this year.
Speaker 1:Oh, I have a Merry Christmas little pillow.
Speaker 2:I can get a Kwanzaa one to go right next to it colorful gifts for kids, tweens, tweens.
Speaker 1:yet in between teenagers and Fucking stupid and children oh my god, just fucking cool. It's like. It's like the 11 and 12 year olds, I know it's so stupid african print headbands these are actually fire. I'll tell you what. If it keeps the hair back, I can get along with that too. Fire oh, I could definitely get down fire.
Speaker 2:That's like you know. That reminds me of that. Reminds me of the tie-dye shit that Gabe got us in yes, in Nashville.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what. Could you imagine seeing me with one of those on an OJ, shirtless yeah? We're just short. Crazy, crazy nuts on the treadmill. Just pop, pop, pop. Just enough quad Tyler. What is that? A headband? It's a bee.
Speaker 2:It's a quad piece. Be more sensitive, it's up with you. I'm out here Just trying to show it right. Be rooted. Gratitude, journal set, love that that's always good. 24 karat gold-plated brass. African map earrings All right earrings.
Speaker 1:We're all the african, so like their big Map of that. Oh wow, yeah, that's for all my Audio listeners. Yeah, that is just Africa on earrings.
Speaker 2:It's crew socks. You just got somebody that we know socks need some socks. I'll tell you what the flavors of Africa book. That looks kind of fire.
Speaker 1:That's a wow wings, the chicken wings on the front. What is?
Speaker 2:what? What's? What's the greenery? It looks like curry. To be honest with you, I feel like, don't they? Don't they use a lot of spines? That's Indian, though. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. What would they use? What kind of spices would they need to get the book? I have no idea.
Speaker 1:This is a perfect plug for the book.
Speaker 2:It's Nigerian, okay, so right, yeah, it's oh from Moroccan spiced lamb. Oh, we got to have somebody from. Nigeria in our circle, that we I told you, I want to go get the fufu, whatever that's called. That. Is that the stuff that you have to. Let me yeah with you. Yeah, you got to dip it and then like hit it, it just, it looks really good. I just I don't. I can't do the trip, I can't do the tripe, I can't do the sheep stomach. That freaks me out, I can't you ever had tribe?
Speaker 1:nope, all right. So I had tripe at a Argentinian. It's big in South America. I don't know if it's an Argentinian steakhouse or whatever the hell it was. It was in Brentwood in the middle of the hood. This place was awesome. Oh yeah, a tripe. Interesting.
Speaker 2:It's, gamey, it's gamey and I like. I like gamey meat, but that might be too gamey for me.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what our server because we were asking about it, our server actually gave it to us for free. He's like I want you to try it, like he was Argentinian. He's like you got to try it.
Speaker 2:It tastes like what? Was it like soft? Was it like ribbony?
Speaker 1:It was a little chewy, but it was like it was like a soft chewy. It was weird and they do it with chimichurri. It was like I like a chimichurri sauce. Who does I? You like chimichurri? Yeah?
Speaker 2:that's interesting. Oh, the cilantro, isn't it? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very good Kwanzaa coasters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'll tell you go wrong with a coaster. But I'll tell you what a table runner love a good table runner. Yeah, all right, I got three more in me, hmm, and then we'll get to the point. We'll get to the point of the podcast, yeah welcome, we're gonna get there I promise.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's like a canopola, that's still off.
Speaker 2:People be like what are you oh?
Speaker 1:speaking of things that you can't pull off.
Speaker 2:What's going on here? Don't touch my dog. I don't know why I bought that.
Speaker 1:This is for all of my visual learners Podcast you know what?
Speaker 2:You know what? I gotta be real with you, this stupid fucking jacket.
Speaker 1:Listen to this that's the buckle on this fucking thing. That's the zipper. That's the fucking zipper on this jacket. Sounds like jingle bells. Motherfucker, what is this Sweating, I feel like.
Speaker 2:I feel like Cameron bro, I gotta be so honest with you. I feel like.
Speaker 1:Cameron.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you what man I Feel like. I feel like what you're not. I feel like Walberg in four brothers when he's walking out to go fight Victor sweet.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what underrated. Fucking movie, great movie, fucking jacket.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, tyler noticed my young LA jacket, which is horrendous, to be honest with you. It's comfy, don't get me wrong. I'll do what it's comfy, but I feel like I'm not the right person to wear you gotta be Three hundred three huns ripped, ripped. I gotta have abs sticking out of the middle of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, leave it on zip 300 with abs.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's gonna get hot shit, but it's a good. It's a good little jacket though.
Speaker 1:It is a nice, but it's. It's not for Nick, I'll keep it wrapped around my you wrap around your waist, yeah, like it's like a tunic. Well, you know what it is. It's gotta I can. I can actually satisfy my, my sensory.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, just pet it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I get a pet, a chinchilla jet like Jeffrey. Uh what?
Speaker 2:yeah, I'm to the Greek, get him to the Greek.
Speaker 1:Pet the pet the wall, the fuzzy wall the fuzzy wall, smoke a Jeffrey and pet Nick's jacket out of nowhere.
Speaker 2:Harry and David, dried fruit set, all right.
Speaker 1:I gotta, I gotta fix the beanie.
Speaker 2:All right, I'll tell you what man the 54 Kibo K-I-B-O. The hair does not look great right the 54 Kibo Jasmine Ood Smokeless Candles. Oh, you love Ood. Those sound. I love a nice Ood. My issue, though, is because of Kenji Sorry bro I don't know if he can have candles in the house, because they're supposed to be not good for dogs, especially if they have epilepsy and all these other things which he definitely does have which he does have.
Speaker 2:So it's like I don't know if, if I can burn, I want to burn candles in the house, so bad, but I just I haven't been burning them because of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah don't blame me, dude. I mean anything to limit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, any, any potential issues or whatever. What have you?
Speaker 1:Excuse me, yeah, no, anything to limit some issues.
Speaker 2:I'm glad I fixed that microphone, by the way it sounds much better.
Speaker 1:It looks, yeah, it looks good.
Speaker 2:Smells good, smells good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it smells, like me.
Speaker 2:Anywho, let's let's get into the topics of the episode, which is fasting. It's not intermittent fasting, it's just a prolonged fasting period for a multitude of benefits Insulin reset, insulin sensitivity, reset gut microbiome healing and reset autophagy, getting rid of cell dead cells, cancerous cells in the body. You have some studies from Boston University. You have some some tips and tricks and stuff like that. We have a couple of things to go over. So essentially we'll cover how we got started with this, why it's interesting to us and just the benefits of it.
Speaker 2:Personally, for me, I was always interested in fasting. I've. I started right before COVID. I started training at Bev's super early with my training partner at the time, adonis. We used to have really good workouts and we used to go there by like 6am and basically what happened was I just I can't eat even an hour, even an hour before the workout. Yeah, I can't consume food because I get actually like nauseous and it just I feel it sloshing around in my stomach and I mean it makes sense because when you consume food and you eat things, digestion just doesn't happen in 20 minutes. It takes time. So it takes time to go from your stomach to your digestive tract, this and that, and when you're working out you want the blood flow to go to the muscle. So I never understood the dudes that, like eat a half hour before the gym. They go into the gym and it's like, dude, aren't you feeling that in your stomach moving?
Speaker 1:around, I guess, because it causes an insulin spike, right? So they use that as partial to the pump, you know, the transfer of blood to the muscle. So I, the science behind it, I guess, makes sense. But it's just a comfortability and I totally agree with you. For me, comfortability, wise eating before the gym, like I try not to do and I definitely try to, and I have been not eating before we do any workouts recently. I don't eat at all, I don't eat coffee and whatever the case.
Speaker 2:But and then the other side just real quick and then we'll get into the actual some of the topics. The other thing that I find very interesting is like, from what I've read, science wise, even if you consume carbohydrates and your insulin spike from eating and you go into your actual workout, you're not using that glycogen for that workout. This is the like a gene from the day before. So it's like okay, so people are eating rice crispy treats like influencers and shit, thinking that, oh yeah, I'm getting pre pumped for the workout. It's like nah bro, that's not how that works. And if I'm incorrect in my thought process on the science from what I've read or what I've heard, I'm all ears. I'd love to hear and learn about more about it, but the vast majority of things that I've read and I've consumed on that front has all said that it's the day before glycogen that you're using for those workouts. It's not what you're consuming within, like, let's say, a three hour window, two hour window.
Speaker 1:You know, it's funny, though, what you say about like the rice crispies or whatever the case, like that intra glycogen to the workout, like an intra workout. It's actually pretty interesting. So there was a period of time where I was lifting pretty heavy and I was having like rice crispies while I was working out and I found myself halfway through the workout when I was getting tired and eating something. It did. I don't know if it was maybe just what, is it a placebo effect or whatever the case, but I felt like it did kind of get to me and my brain started working again. I'm like all right, I can finish this workout.
Speaker 2:Well, that might be different.
Speaker 1:The brain function and the fat sugar I felt like kind of got me back into it in a sense. I don't know where else it goes, but as far as stored glycogen in the muscle tissue, muscle fibers.
Speaker 2:That wouldn't be it. But Meadows was very big on peri workout nutrition. He was very big on what was his. He had intra MD. When he had prime nutrition, he had intra MD, which was a total peri workout drink that he would. You know, you put it into the, the Nalgene bottle and you would just fucking slam it in the middle of your workout and you'd feel great man. You would really would you get that rush.
Speaker 1:You get that you feel like, so I think brain help and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:There definitely is benefits in terms of that. But yeah, as far as stored glycogen, I just I couldn't even understand how people can just like slam food before they go to the gym or hit a buffet and like a fair cheat meal and then go work out. I'm like dude, I want to. Just I want to get the buffet after Exactly Just fuel up and then sleep?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, that's all I want to do. Well, that's the natural progression of male and female activity. When you go back to primal activity, right, it's hunt. It will hunt and gather, eat, go on. What else are we doing? Sleep? Oh, no, well, a fucking yeah, they were sleeping. Well, some of us are fucking, anyway, some of us and then sleeping, but that's so. That's actually funny, and it's a really great segue for us to talk about fasting, because Before, before you start and I was going to say this too, so please go ahead, before you start- we have to give the general disclaimer.
Speaker 2:We are not medical professionals, we are not doctors, we are not formally trained. This is not medical advice. You have to. What do we have to say? You have to consult your general practitioner. Whatever you want to do, your physician. But you know, try anything. I need the stuff that we're talking about to try. Just try your own risk and and that you know your own leisure.
Speaker 1:This is not advice, this is not a Well it's advice, but it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not medical advice. It's not medical advice. Right.
Speaker 1:This is, this is our experience, our findings, based off of things that are published in medical journals, um, but you know, to kind of even really get us started it's. It's interesting that I say that because it does again kind of to go back Helps segue into it. Fasting is a primal activity, right? If you think, if you truly think about it back in the day it was, you would hunt, you would go out on a day's worth of hunts, right, and sometimes you would not get anything, right? So you're fasting, in that time You're not eating, and you go days and days and days and it actually causes you mentally to have to go into that fight or flight. What do you?
Speaker 1:sharpen up, sharpen up, sharpen up, right.
Speaker 1:So now that you've gotten your your kill right, let's say you got your kill, now you're eating, your body is going to hold on to that. You are going to make that last as long as you can so you rest, you recover and then you get right the fuck back out there. And that is kind of where I've took my first experience with a prolonged fast, cause I've done, you know, the five to 16, eight fasts, right, the five days on, two days off, the 16 hours of fast, the eight hours of pure eating. I've done the 18, six, you know just the opposite. I've done the 12, 12. I've done all of that.
Speaker 1:And then when I did the prolonged fast, I really did feel primal, like, in a sense, right, I felt like I was back in time, like I have nothing. I felt all the feelings of what it felt like to have those fight or flight, really reactors go off and just say to myself wow, like I feel X-Wines, which we'll get into. What our feelings were, and that's how I described it to a lot of people, and it truly made a lot of sense.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you remember, I started doing like the 18, sixes randomly. I just said I just want to figure this out. It's an interesting thing to do. I just want to try it. I want to try it. I felt good doing it. I felt good when I was fasting. I felt light and then, obviously, with doing the workouts that we do in the morning, it's easier because it's so early that generally we're not going to want to eat. I don't want to eat before that 6am.
Speaker 2:Time killer too it's something to actually fill the time. Yeah, exactly. So you do your workout, you're fasted, whatever, and then I just hold it out until one, two o'clock and see how long I could hold it out for. And then I did a couple of 24 hour ones. But then the issue, of course, was I was doubling up on activity. Because I was doubling up on activity and I needed some energy for Jiu-Jitsu, I needed something. I'd have some honey, or I'd have something before Jiu-Jitsu to break the fast, and then I'd do it and then I'd eat a real meal afterwards when Britain came on.
Speaker 2:He's very big on the omad, the one meal a day. There's a lot of different takes on that. I haven't done that yet, but I definitely have only eaten once a day. Theoretically, I'm not really religious with any of this. That's the biggest thing for me. It's like I'm flexible in all of these different. I really fucking hate to use that word because I don't even know if I'm using it correctly but modalities that seems to be like a buzzword nowadays. Well, that's what a lot of fasting, is it's like a buzz.
Speaker 2:It's a buzz fad. I'm flexible with a lot of the different things that I'm doing, because I don't want to hold myself to one thing. I don't want to hold myself to saying oh no, the only way to eat is X. Because once new science comes out that X is maybe not the best for you or there's a different alternative that you could do that's better for you, then I look like I'm topsy turd. I'm switching shit up.
Speaker 1:Prime example, look at salt Salt being so frowned upon for however many years, right.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you what?
Speaker 1:I will shout the hell out of them. I will shout them out Element and we'll talk about element in a few minutes here, because it's going to be a big part of what we use during a fast. But salt was so frowned upon for how long.
Speaker 2:Don't have salt, don't sell you Hypertension.
Speaker 1:Hypertension and high blood pressure If you don't regulate this right. Salt is the most perfect electrolyte for our bodies. Studies are actually the right. Studies are now showing the almost exact opposite. You don't want to replenish your body with sugar and artificial sugar.
Speaker 2:I've said it a bunch of times on a lot of different episodes, so I sound like a broken record to a lot of people that listen regularly In terms of the electrolytes and in terms of salt and this, and that it's like you when we drink filtered water all the time. That filtered water that has nothing in it, because we're generally using a Brita is the most mainstream one. And then you start getting into the other ones, like zero water, which is the one that I have, or the reverse osmosis, which I'm going to be investing in. I'm going to get a reverse osmosis that really takes everything out. I mean you put a gallon of water into it and you get a half gallon yield from it. So you get a half gallon of clean water and then the other half gallon goes into the dirty water tank Because it filtered all that bullshit out.
Speaker 2:But on the reverse, you know, taking the reverse osmosis out of it, because some of those have a fourth filter in there that remineralize the water. Don't worry about that. We're just talking about like a zero water filter. It brings the TDS, the total dissolved solids, down to zero. There's nothing in your water. Theoretically there's nothing. It's stripped of everything. Now that water goes through your body and, as you're consuming it and drinking it, and it goes through and makes its way all the way through to you know, your bladder and through the digestive system. It's stripping your body of some of those minerals that it's been stripped out of in the filtration process and by having that now you're becoming deficient in some of those things over time.
Speaker 1:Which is why you need to add some of those trace minerals.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You have to either add the trace mineral drops or you have to add element salt packs, because it has magnesium, potassium and sodium in it and these things help to just get everything back on track for you. So I just find it interesting that we find all these studies out and these things that are demonized meat and salt and all these different things. You know that's a totally separate topic the carnivore and meat stuff like that. I don't eat carnivore, I eat more animal based, though I feel better when I eat more red meat. I just do. I feel better, I look better, I look tighter, even better than when I eat chicken Like it. Just that works for me and I feel good doing it.
Speaker 2:And the amino acids that are in it and this and that. So now they're saying, before we continue with the fasting, now they're saying that there's amino acids in meat that actually prevent cancer on a lot of different levels. But we've been demonizing this meat for so many years. So I say all this to basically wrap up on this part and say you have to try different things. You have to see what works for your body, because what works for Tyler might not work for me. What works for me might not work for Tyler, or we could see it sit in the middle and see like on fasting, it works for us.
Speaker 1:We feel good doing it Right and that's a big part of how we started fasting to begin with. It was something to try, something new to try. I think that the way it actually really started was you had mentioned that you were doing 24s. I had already done 24s before, whether by purpose or inadvertently, and we had said to ourselves with our buddy Gabe fuck you, gabe, let's do a prolonged one. Everybody's posting about it. Obviously, dana White was the first one that's doing 84 hours fast because Gary Brecca was walking him through it and, honestly, we looked at it and we were like damn, he got tight.
Speaker 2:Tight man, that boy got tight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean he's also probably running HGH.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, my man's running some meat, as Matt Sarah says. Hey man, a TRT who pisses dirty. It is what it is, and listen.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Matt Sarah.
Speaker 2:What a funny fucking oh he's the best.
Speaker 1:But you know, obviously we see Dana White and we're talking about it. We're like you know what, Fuck it, let's give it a try. Right, Like what's the harm in trying? There was a little bit of harm in trying. You know what? There's some crazy side effects.
Speaker 2:Let's get into this. So shorter, shorter, fast. What I've noticed is, after 18 to 20 hours, I have mental clarity. I have mental clarity, I feel good and, to be quite honest with you, at that point I really don't crave anything. I don't crave food, I honestly just crave fluids, I crave water. So when I'm doing the fast, especially because my activity level is up that first 20, let's just block it off for the first 12. 12 hours is easy. Let's just say you sleep for eight hours. Think about it like that you sleep for eight hours, you have what? Four more?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then you break that up because you're not…. You're getting up, you're not supposed to eat right before bed, right? So say you eat two hours before you go to sleep and then another two hours when you wake up. Right there, then you're there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now you're there. So now you have to 12 hours. Now you go to 16 hours. Okay, maybe you took care of the dog in the morning, you took the kids to school, you did whatever you had to do at a personal level to get your morning started. Go to work, do your thing. Food, theoretically shouldn't really be a first thought for you at this point, because you're busy, you're doing things.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I do, and then so that's at the, let's say, 16 hour mark. Then we get to 18, 20. You may start thinking about food a little bit, but there's a switch, a weird switch that happens. Sorry, I keep burping. I'm like drinking coffee and water. There's a weird switch that happens at the 18 to 20 hour mark. In my experiences and you can tell me if you've experienced the same thing that the cravings for food not only go away, but I'm just sitting there kind of just like I could just keep going. I feel fine, I feel great. Actually, I'm just I could cruise through this, no problem, all the way up to 24 hours.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I feel the same exact way and it's funny that you mentioned the 18 hour mark right, and I'm going to reference PubMed quite a bit, Really really useful tool. It's a government based website which everybody wants to say what they want to say about the government.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they just published medical articles.
Speaker 1:Published medical articles.
Speaker 2:So there's your anecdotal evidence of actual science, correct?
Speaker 1:So, to reference PubMed, some studies found that short term fasting can cause mood enhancement, which is reflected in increased positive mood and fatality and decreased negative mood. Awesome, Then it's mentioned in an 18 hour fast among healthy women which you're not but Maybe you are, but you did find that mom's saying you personally they found that fasting can actually lead to increased irritability and increased positive effective experiences, such as a sense of achievement, reward and contrast. So while you feel irritable, you do feel like the sense of pride and like reward has gone up, which was a lot, I mean again, for me what that 18 hour mark had hit. And now what I had done in between was, you know, sleep, wake up, whatever the case may be, and we did this right after Thanksgiving. So we had our large meal, balanced protein, balanced fat, you know and I say balanced, it was an overabundance of balance, but it wasn't like we didn't go off the deep end, had 10 million cookies. The night before I had my normal Thanksgiving meal.
Speaker 2:I definitely ate way more than you. I fucking pigged out yeah, I mean listen-. Which is cool, because I haven't eaten like that in a long time. Since we've been on, since March, I have not eaten like that. We've gotten cheat meals, we've been able to, but to actually I can't even say binge, but to just really eat freely and just not give a fuck and just be like whatever, like it's cool.
Speaker 1:Hey, listen, you need those. I'll tell you what. I would have eaten a lot more had it been Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2:You don't like Thanksgiving. You don't like Thanksgiving food. I don't really like Thanksgiving food. That's another episode. That's fucking communist shit.
Speaker 1:So, like you know, okay, communist shit, right. So, anyway, so my Thanksgiving meal was, you know, a little turkey, a little ham, a little corn, a little broccoli, a little brussel, a little whatever you know. So it was a little bit of everything. I had my cannoli, I had my you know, my coffee, whatever, A little little nosh. And then I stopped, right. And then the time, the time it starts. But yeah, that 18 hour mark is right.
Speaker 1:When I started feeling and I had worked out that morning at OG, we both did yeah, and I'll tell you what I felt fine working out then, because it was just like a normal kind of ordeal for me, right, I felt at the 18 hour mark, wow, like I'm not hungry, but like what do I do? Right, Because I feel like a lot of times when you eat it's purely out of boredom, right, Like you know, you're like, oh, I'm supposed to eat right now. So there's that mental challenge of like, all right, well, we're not doing this today and we're also not doing this tomorrow, so get comfortable with it, right? So that 18 hour mark for me was a turning point. When I got to 24 hour, I felt very rewarded.
Speaker 1:I was like, holy shit, I did it today, Like I'm halfway there. And then I said, oh shit, I'm halfway there. Yeah, Like you. You have that set that, that that moment within yourself where you're like, damn, can I really do this? Another, and my initial goal was to go three days or 60 hours, excuse me, because I wanted to go until the giant game, so, which was perfectly 60, which you know, obviously, two, two and a half days, but I was like, damn, I'm like I don't know if I'm going to be able to do this. I, you know, I did start to question if I'm going to be able to do this and then there was no gym the next day.
Speaker 2:Yeah. No yeah, I didn't roll and I didn't go to OG. I had a shoot, so I had I had shoots and some sort of active and truth be told, I mean, that was um, it wasn't tough, I wasn't having trouble focusing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, I definitely just I could, I, I would have been much more content with staying at home and just and just laying low yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think that was one of the days where me and my sister went shopping together. I spent some time with, with, with Amanda.
Speaker 2:Which is nice because you're able to walk around and just keep your mind off of things.
Speaker 1:And that was a lot of what I was doing, just like just keeping, obviously out of the house and away from the phone, because it's so funny, like it's like the red punch buggy Like you don't think about you know red punch buggies until you start thinking about. You don't see them until you start thinking about them. Every TikTok you roll past and everything that you see on Instagram or whatever the case is food. Like you just start noticing all the food and it starts getting to you. You're like, oh man, I'm starving right now. Right, so, keeping myself off the phone, going out and doing little things, and obviously, throughout the day, you're allowed to have water, coffee, tea, that's it Period, right, so I was having my, my.
Speaker 2:I'd be careful with the tea, so coffee has to be black.
Speaker 1:Coffee has to be black.
Speaker 2:Thank you for black Black, so be careful with the tea, in case there's added sugars with certain tea packs. So you have to just make sure there's nothing, so take a look in. Yes, just be you know aware. And then, as far as your water, just like we were saying earlier, you have to have electrolytes in that water, especially because you're not consuming any food, and that's really what's going to keep you from crashing.
Speaker 1:Absolutely the way I split mine and I don't know if you did the same, but I think we were pretty in line. I would have two liter water bottles because I didn't want to totally dilute the salt too much. I had a liter of water bottle. I put a stick of element in there, okay, and I would have two of those a day. I would break those up into half parts of the day. If I finished that liter before my half of my day got there, I would have regular water or coffee to keep me kind of just, you know, keeping going, and I'd have the second water bottle with a second stick of element. Now that got me to bedtime and I felt like that worked for me. You're better off not using the flavored ones, because the flavored ones do have calories. Yeah, evidently. Evidently they do have calories. So it is better if you use raw.
Speaker 1:Unfavorable unflavored raw, which I just purchased and I did not, so I'm going to continue to use the flavored ones.
Speaker 2:It's not that big, I don't think so or you use trace mineral drops, because the trace mineral drops do not have any calories in them.
Speaker 1:Correct. So those are your two options to add to water.
Speaker 2:And I'll put the links in the description of the show notes for YouTube and for the audio. Okay, and you can click it. Purchase it on Amazon. Hopefully you get it before then, or you just see what they are and then go to GNC and grab the trace mineral drops, whatever it is.
Speaker 1:There's other brands of electrolytes that you could easily grab, because I know Element is not very easily found in stores.
Speaker 2:It's not. I don't know if Liquid IV has calories, though.
Speaker 1:I don't know if Liquid IV does either, but I will say Seth Feroz's brand, axin Sledge. They have a really great supplement line period. I think a lot of its supplements are great Parallacus with Caged, parallacus with Caged. So those are two brands that I will happily say. If they have some supplements for electrolytes which I know Axin Sledge does because I looked into it I could recommend that. I know it's sold at GNC Caged as well. If they have it, definitely grab that before you grab anything else.
Speaker 2:I'm looking up Liquid IV. Not very familiar with their line Hydration multiplier, sugar free, so I guess that would be it.
Speaker 1:So those are your options Element which you and I will be using.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hydration multiplier electrolyte drink mix. It's sugar free, Three times the electrolytes of leading sports drinks.
Speaker 1:So be careful with that. Just take a look into the ingredients no sugar, no artificial. Are they salt based?
Speaker 2:I'm looking right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Zero sugar, no artificial sweetener, eight vitamins and nutrients. The albaba made with alulose, part of the proprietary and patent pending amino acid alulose blend. Not sure I love how that sounds. I don't know what that is, it just says tear, poor, blah, blah, blah. Smart, zero sugar hydration. The amino acid alulose blend is our latest smart hydration solution. Used in hydration multiplier, sugar free hydrates more effectively than water alone with zero sugar. Gee, I couldn't figure that out. Welcome to the future of functional hydration. Dude, just give me a fucking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, give me the.
Speaker 2:Liquid IV believes equitable access, okay, global impact.
Speaker 1:I gotta be honest with you. I'm ready to say I'm kind of out on liquid IV with this. So you have some really good stuff. If you have elements, use your elements. Here it is you have accent sledge, or if you have cage. I think those are going to be.
Speaker 2:So even though it's sugar free, it still has probably five grams of carbs. Yeah, so that's off the table. Yeah, do not use liquid IV.
Speaker 1:Do not use liquid IV, at least the lemon lime one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, white peach is five grams of carbs. Yeah, so yeah, and this says sugar free, so it's got L-glutamine in it. No-transcript, I think we're gonna do a lot of stuff later this week. Yeah, I'm good on liquid IV. I'm good on it. Yeah, no, taylor just texted me. Shout out, taylor, I love you, it's E-Fresh, you gonna hold me.
Speaker 1:He owes me a diet plan. I'm just gonna keep bothering him about it. He'll get you one. Yeah, I know. I know he will, I know he will, but I just want to keep bothering him about it All right.
Speaker 2:So either you're gonna use trace mineral drops or you're gonna use elements LMNT, element cell packs.
Speaker 1:And obviously maybe not obviously because we have. I don't think we've mentioned it yet the next time we're doing this is Christmas Day. Now how is that gonna work, nikki?
Speaker 2:That is going to work because we're going to eat freely. Correct Christmas Eve. Christmas Day.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, like that abundant feast when you go out and make that kill.
Speaker 2:Just enjoy you know what Eat up. Don't go overboard. I mean, a lot of the people that are doing this with us are athletes. Yes, Like you've said to me a couple times off air and on air, A lot of the people that are joining us on this fast which we have. How many people Like 20? Like 20?
Speaker 1:That's amazing. Big shout out to everybody joining man For real Awesome.
Speaker 2:Thank you and everybody coming through and it's fun. It's fun, it's a good group activity. We're gonna where are you going to do a discord? Probably easier to do discord We'll do a discord. We'll do a discord. So we'll do a discord and just we have some type of sense of community, because there are definitely going to be some people struggling a little bit towards the end and we're just going to talk and just hang out, make each other laugh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, chill, whatever. Put some memes in there. Listen if people are around to hang out and do some shit cool, cool, but if not, honestly, the biggest thing is going to be resting.
Speaker 2:Yes. So the whole thing with doing it on there is because we're going to eat freely. You're going to eat a lot of high carb foods which you may not normally consume regularly, and we want to reset our gut microbiome and we want to reset everything, our whole system, from consuming these foods. Especially now that we're going right into a new year and as opposed to doing this on New Year's Eve, you know, into New Year's Day type of scenario, we're starting a little early. We want to just get our health in order, we want to make sure that we're feeling good, operating at a high level, and it's just a good way to reset your system and your body. That's why we did it. The last one was after Thanksgiving. We ate, we did our thing and then we were able to reset our whole body and still train and do our thing. Now training, like you said, becomes very difficult after. Until that second day, you have to just assess how you're feeling. You can maybe go for a little jog, maybe a little run, whatever. Maybe you can. Maybe you can go for a bike ride. If it's not fucking freezing out, or if you have a bike in your house like a Peloton, just pedal along just to get some blood flow. But you really have to assess how you feel.
Speaker 2:I knew that I could not roll. I knew that that was going to be a problem. I knew that wrestling another grown human being was not in my favor. At that time because it's my first one, maybe my third one, I'll feel good enough to start doing shit like that. I felt fine for the first day. I could train, I could go roll. Afterwards I could do everything normal schedule and not have any issues with that. So it's all about assessing and being realistic with yourself. And at the same time we were talking this morning like I canceled OG. Tomorrow morning I did Jiu Jitsu. Tonight I did OG this morning. I've been on this entire week. You got to give yourself some rest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to give yourself a break, you got to give yourself a break, because otherwise, not only are you going to get sick just from, like your immune system just breaking down and not being able to recover, but your muscles aren't going to be able to recover. You're going to start having joint issues, like there's going to be a ton of little things that you have to do. So this is almost a good way to just give yourself a break. So train that Christmas day, train Christmas day, train Christmas Eve and then even train the 26th and then, like the 27, 28th. You have to just assess how you feel Correct.
Speaker 2:I broke my fast at night, around nine o'clock at night, and we're going to talk about our methods of breaking the fast, which we've gotten from plenty of research on yeah, we've done research on what works for people and what they seem is the best way to do it, and I broke my fast at night and then I rolled the next morning at the competition class at Sarah's. It was difficult. I still felt not, not 100%.
Speaker 2:Not 100% ready to rock and roll, but I was still good, so I still felt okay, I wasn't dizzy or anything like that, you know. Just, you have to assess your body. You have to just see how you feel, if your blood sugar is really crashing, if you're a diabetic or you're having issues like that. You have to be realistic and you may have to cut the fast short, but be realistic with yourself. Talk to the group when we're all doing it together and we're just going to all help each other through it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think some things to note going into the fast right. So different forms of measure to see what you're doing, how you're doing, and listen for us. When we did the one on Thanksgiving, we weighed ourselves. We wanted to check in to see what we were losing in terms of water weight and whatnot. And I'm going to weigh myself right after that meal.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's right. Right when I get home after the meal.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have the scale there and I'm just going to take note. Is it for anything? Not really, I just want to know it. You know, it's just something to. It's cool.
Speaker 2:It's cool to see how your weight shifting.
Speaker 1:It's very cool to see how your body does this Over the course of the day too. Yeah, you know, at one point of the day you could be, you know, say, 200 pounds, and you know you could weigh yourself four hours later after drinking a ton of water, and you could be down like a pound and a half.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and normally when you're drinking a ton of water, you're putting it on. Yeah, you're holding the water weight because it's just going right through you. Yep, it's a very interesting sensation when you feel your stomach actually at Eat empty Empty.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Not just a day of not eating, a half a day. When you start hitting that second day, mark your stomach, you actually like feel it just totally tight Eat, eat, eat, eat, eat. And when you drink water you feel the water go like and hit the stomach and go right through. It's very, very very interesting feelings.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean some other expectations, right, Like be ready for some of the mood swings that come along with it. I mean, I felt it. I was on the phone with Gabe and Nick and I couldn't listen to them anymore. I don't know what it was. I was like I'm tired of these two.
Speaker 2:I'm like see ya.
Speaker 1:You're tired. They weren't even saying anything about me. They make fun of me pretty much all day. Didn't get that. Hit that red button, it's okay. I was like, yeah, no, no, no, I can't do this, but that's a part of the reason why we say to rest.
Speaker 2:At the same time, you're also grown as humans, so don't take it out on other people. Correct yeah, don't be a dick. Yeah, don't be a dick. Just be cool. It's not that serious. You'll eat, you'll break your fast, you'll feel good, you'll feel great again. Just give yourself some time, and that's really what you got to do, right?
Speaker 1:And the other thing in going into it as well is have a goal. But realize, if this is your first time hitting a longer fast like for me, I had a 60-hour goal there was no way I was doing another 12 hours. I just couldn't. There's no way. So have that goal and if you don't reach it, like hey, like you did some hard shit either way, like it's not easy to do that We've been so programmed to eat every six, eight, whatever hours that you are.
Speaker 2:What's the percentage of the population? That'll never fast, because I know I've definitely seen that statistic somewhere. That's a really good question.
Speaker 1:I really don't know, While you looked that up, what I will say as we go into. You know our next phase of you know we talked about what you're going to have before the fast, but now I'm going to tell you guys essentially what we did after our fast, what we looked at, what had worked. So I know Nick and Gabe broke their fast with bone broth. Now I actually took a picture so that I wouldn't forget the name of the brand, because it's a very good brand Kettle and Fire. You could find it at grocery stores. It's 100% grass fed. You get the bone broth, the one with the red cow on it, Grass fed from grass, finished beef bones, no preservatives. Pretty sure it's an organic product. It's a very high quality brand of bone broth. Heat that up Little sips. I can't stress enough. When I broke my fast I did not have bone broth. I broke my fast with sunflower butter, because I'm allergic to everything under the sun. I had sunflower butter.
Speaker 2:I actually like sunflower butter better than pea. Okay, so real quick, I've heard the same thing. Side note on that I said it with Matt on the last episode y'all. If you turn into that, you guys will hear us just briefly talk about some foods, because Matt actually grew up selling organic for produce and groceries and whatnot and there was a lot of things that I read about peanuts being high in mold because of the way that they're harvested and this and that. And they're also not a nut, they're a legume. So I've been trying to get into eating almond butter and stuff like that. It's okay. I do like the sunflower butter. It does need sugar. I bought the one without the sugar. It does need a little bit of sugar to sweeten it up.
Speaker 1:I would agree with that. I have to look at that. So, like I do like the organic stop shop brands, I love that stuff Either way. That's what I broke my fast with and I did a teaspoon, because when that food hits your mouth you get the sensation of euphoria Right. Even with the. I can imagine it was the same thing with the bone broth, but when I, when I spooned it.
Speaker 2:I was like I sip the bone broth for 15 minutes. I sifted for 15 minutes, I heated it up. You got to get that.
Speaker 1:You got to get your stomach working again.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You got to because you're reintroducing stuff after a long time and it's tough because you're going to want to binge, You're going to want to eat everything inside.
Speaker 2:Oh, do not do that. And do not do that because you'll fuck yourself up and you, you get sick. There is a term which I wish I wrote it down. There's a term that people for longer fast mostly, but people that actually get sick from consuming too much food because their body hasn't consumed food in X amount of days. So just be very careful about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%. And then you know, going on that topic as well, the diet after, which I think was probably one of the most commonly asked questions is what am I supposed to eat after Right, because I haven't eaten in something in so many days? We've done the research and I wish I had quoted it from specific people to give them the credit. But you choose one or the other. Choose your carbs or choose your fats. It's better if you choose your fats, and this is getting paired with protein, paired with protein Fat. So you want to choose the two. You don't want to have fats and carbs together, regardless of whatever. If you have, you know, a balanced meal of carbs and fats, that is what makes you fat, period. That's what puts fat on your body, because now you have two sources of your energy, sources that you're putting into your body. That makes you fat. You can look it up. That is in medical journals, that's in science journals. Fat and carbs are what make you fat when they're eaten and consumed together in high excess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in high excess amounts. Basically, that's a lot of the arterial sclerosis, like all the arterial buildup that you see and all these different issues. That was something that James, my coach he had talked about a long time ago, way before any of this shit was around, and he had said the way that you get sick like that or you have any issues with what he used to say, with any type of like plaque buildup and stuff like that, it's when you're having a high carbohydrate and high fat diet. You have to. There really has to be one or the other in terms of like the high amount. So that's why keto works If you're keeping carbs to super low, to basically nothing. That's why you know a higher carbohydrate diet. When I was in my off season with him, I was eating 600 grams of carbs. My fat stayed moderate. It wasn't anything crazy. I was like 50, 60 grams of fat a day.
Speaker 1:Even still I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I'm not eating diet.
Speaker 1:It's pretty high. No, that was off season. Off season, yeah, I was at 600 grams of carbs a day. That's a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just think about how fucking pain in the ass it is to eat that much food.
Speaker 1:You try, you try, eating it in skittles, I mean, that's it.
Speaker 2:Well, that's why you said I started having to eat poptars and shit. So that's another. This is a long time ago, but anyway, that is just something that you have to keep in mind. The fat is going to be a better fuel source for you coming out of the fast. It's going to be better metabolically for you versus the carbs. You know carbohydrates they could be hit or miss with the terms of quality in them. If you're just having regular rice, what type of bread are you having? If you're having like a real homemade sourdough, that's fine, but generally there's going to be a lot of extra added shit in other types of breads. There's a lot of things you have to worry about. So my, our best advice would be you break the fast with bone broth, sip it for 15 minutes, see how your stomach feels and then maybe have a spoonful of like an almond butter or a peanut butter not a peanut butter, but almond butter, a sunflower butter, whatever. Whatever your your choice of in a butter type situation like that is and then you want to assess. You want to see how you feel. You know one of the big ways that a lot of people have said that they break their fast is with steak and avocados or eggs, something like that.
Speaker 2:I ate a lot after my fast. Nothing happened to me because I went right back to being crazy active the next day, but I definitely ate too much. After my fast. I had the bone broth, then I had two tablespoons of almond butter and then I had a probably another hour and a half later. Hour later, I had a full bag of cauliflower rice with a ribeye and a full avocado. Yeah, which is a lot of food. It was a lot of food. It was a lot of food. I went looking back on it and then I fell asleep on the couch and I woke up like three hours later and I had two slices of sourdough bread. So I definitely know, going into this next one, that I'm taking it easier coming out of it. It didn't happen to me bad, but it could have. Maybe, just maybe. I held extra water the next day because I consumed the things that I wasn't supposed to the extra carbs along with the higher fats. So things to keep into consideration.
Speaker 1:I wanted to elaborate, and thank you for bringing that up. I wanted to elaborate a little bit more on why fats over carbohydrates. So as you're in your fast things you'll notice because now you've been so carbohydrate-deprived and this is I'm going to quote from PubMed again. So in part of their study which is intermittent fasting and metabolic conversion, right. So now we're not doing intermittent fasting, we're doing, you know, longer steady-state fasting or however they define it. So I apologize, I don't have that in front of me, but glucose and fatty acids are the main energy sources for cells.
Speaker 1:Right After a meal, glucose is used as a for energy and the fat is stored in adipose tissue in the form of triglycerides. So, fasting, triglycerides are broken down into fatty acids, glycerin, to provide energy. Now this is where the interesting part comes. Then the liver converts fatty acids into ketone bodies, which provide the main energy source for tissues, especially the brain. Now, in any keto-based diet you'll have high fats and low to no carb. Right, you're already in a state of ketosis. We use the app Zero, which is what we use as our clock, but it also has a lot of really interesting keto-based facts when you're catabolic, metabolic in ketosis, deep ketosis and the different levels of ketosis.
Speaker 2:And you can also get the strips that you urinate on. Yes, that will tell you-.
Speaker 1:Test it purely from your rea. But I'll tell you what, and I'll never forget, I was in such a deep state of ketosis, not during this fast, but when I was doing my prep many, many, many years ago. I walked right past Paul and he was like you know, he's like who? He's like who, the fuck smells like ammonia. He goes Tyler, get over here. And he's like blow a fucking in my face. He goes. And then I'll never forget Paul's look. He just go whoa, yeah, you're in ketosis. I'd have been like-. I'd have been like- Smell like pure ammonia.
Speaker 2:I'd have been like yo shut that whore mouth, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Shut that whore mouth. Oh, I think everybody wanted me to shut my mouth at that point. It was bad, but it's funny because that's the state you're going to be in. So, coming out of it, staying lower in the carb which, if you're looking to jump into some sort of diet to get yourself regimented, maybe try something that's lower in carb and keeping your energy sources purely from things that are getting converted in your liver to keep you in a state of ketosis, and it's a great energy source. I'll tell you what when I was training ketosis, I lifted stethyl, lifted heavy. I still looked great, and that's part of the whole process, of what you're going to be going through. Listen, don't be surprised if your breath smells like ammonia after two days.
Speaker 2:Right, because you're going to get it to Straight that tongue. Brush those teeth.
Speaker 1:That's a big tip. Straight that tongue, brush those teeth. Yeah, and trust me, it's going to happen, because if you smell like ammonia it's for a reason. Shut that whore mouth, Shut that whore mouth. So that's kind of what we and then for my meals afterwards. So I had the that's how I broke my fast with the sunflower butter, but after that, probably like a half hour to 45 minutes after that, I'm like damn, I got to eat something, because now my body started feeling like all right, we got a little taste.
Speaker 1:We need some food, we need a little taste. Yeah, so I had three ounces of 90-10 grass-fed beef. You could actually go fattier than that. Yep, you could even go fattier than that. That's what I had. To be honest with you, I wasn't totally prepared. I had some goat cheese, so there was other forms of fat, and then a lot of really good things for gut health, pre-improbiotics excuse me, I couldn't speak there for a second and a lot of fermented foods, right? So your pickles, pickled red onions, you know, you name it. All of these Kimchi, kimchi, kimchi, kimchi, kimchi, all really good for you.
Speaker 2:My fridge stinks of kimchi because I have four bottles in there, yeah, and they're definitely leaking Like not broken, but they're just, every time you open them and you close them again, it's like, yeah, man, son, I got the kimchi fridge. Now I mean, let's come through this smell. They're like, no, it's the kimchi fridge. Come here, come over here, I'll give you some probiotics you want some kimchi Prebiotics.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Listen, I'm a.
Speaker 2:I love, I love, I love I love.
Speaker 1:I love a good poppy. I wish they would sponsor me Poppy. Oh, I love poppy. They're so good, anyway.
Speaker 2:so oh, so the poppy, the sodas, yeah, the sodas, yeah, obviously the poppy seed muffins. We were having debate on the other day.
Speaker 1:Well, that's another story for another day. Anyway, fermented foods also really great for you post fast Sauerkraut. So I had. Yeah, sauerkraut is the big one, big one, big one, big one, it's a very good brand from Trader Joe's.
Speaker 2:I don't know the name of it, but there's a lot of people that say that is a very, really, really good quality brand made it like almost homemade style made, but the kimchi that I buy is a mother-in-law's kimchi. It's very good. They have spicy, they have Napa cabbage, they have all the different types and it's very good.
Speaker 1:What I do for me I would probably stay away from I'm sorry to cut you off I'd probably stay away from spicy afterwards. Yeah, you could, because you know your stomach's going to be very sensitive. What I did for my beef and I'm glad you say this very light pepper and salt. I've already been having salt, put the pepper on there. I had a little bit of the cheese and I'll tell you what it was a it really hit my stomach. It kind of crazy. And I had this on a Lavash wrap. So I again I had some carbs but Lavash very low, but it was a very low carb, it's not that big a deal.
Speaker 2:The salt, though, is important, and the quality of the salt is important. Don't just get like a Morton salt. I've been using Celtic sea salt. It's like a buzzword too. Everyone on TikTok has been fucking grabbing it up. But I'll tell you what man health food stores. The wild by nature in Huntington Village has it. That's where I go shopping some of the time.
Speaker 1:Trader Joe's, I think has it.
Speaker 2:Trader Joe's probably probably has it. But the Celtic salt, the blue bag, I get that. I just sprinkle it on all my food, my eggs, everything like that, and the the minerals in that are supposed to be way, even way better than Himalayan pink sea salt, yeah. So I just I sprinkled that in there and I feel good doing it.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what. While you're on the topic of Himalayan pink sea salt really great hack, not so much that I've been doing for fasting, but if you're going to do intermittent, shorter fasting 16, 18, instead of the pre workouts in the can or any pre workout powders or anything like that. And, my friends, I don't want to stop. On many companies I have been doing pink Himalayan sea salt beetroot capsules that I got on Amazon I don't really remember the brand, but it was a very highly rated brand with thousands and thousands of reviews and black coffee and I get the same, if not a better, pump, very great mental clarity, right, because they're vasodilators, both beetroot and the salt and the caffeine from the black coffee. So that's just one thing.
Speaker 2:I want to know. I've been taking L-Arginine nitric oxide.
Speaker 1:Yeah, punk the capsule.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the capsule, but not even for the workout, just for in general, for just a better nitric oxide supply in your body. You just want to walk around with nice veins in your arms, that's it. And honestly, dudes, if you're having like ED problems which I mean I'm not Beetroot also helps with that. Yeah, I'm not, but that is also something that you use. For that you use a nitric oxide supplement. So pretty cool. Thorn shouts to Thorn. I would definitely love a contract from you guys, because I also just started taking your methylated folate tonight. I can't be honest with you. I'm taking it for 10 o'clock at night.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty yeah, you got some energy.
Speaker 2:I came in, it was before the coffee too. No, no, no, yeah, I feel pretty good, man, I took a nap before. It might be anecdotal, I took a nap earlier too, but it was an hour before Jiu-Jitsu. I took the nap. But, dude, we've been going since fucking five in the morning, six in the morning, anywho.
Speaker 1:Every fucking.
Speaker 2:So let's wrap this, because I don't want it to be too long for everybody. We're just literally hitting an hour. So oh, wow, yeah, it goes fast, it goes so fast. I love talking to you, you're welcome. But anyway. So we're excited to do this fast with you. Do you have anything else for everybody?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had a couple of other things that I wanted to mention and I will be quick with it. So post fast, especially for this one. It's going to be really good and something to be mindful of your energy levels after. So my first trip to the gym afterwards wasn't the easiest. The second one, my energy levels were through the roof now that I had some food in me.
Speaker 2:So, keep in mind, you're not going to be able to go back to your superman to get into it again.
Speaker 1:You're not going to be Superman when you first come back. We're going to send out everything for the group, Super excited that everybody does that. I think one of the main things I wanted to talk about, just in terms of benefits from the fast both men and women, is when you're doing this, you are removing your body of dead cells. These are majority of these cells are cancer cells. You can use that buzzword yes, aphage.
Speaker 2:Autophagy.
Speaker 1:Autophagy, excuse me, it's okay, it's late for me, that's okay. So autophagy, that is, the clearing of dead cancer cells in your body. I'll admit it, I was in the shower and I actually shit myself in the shower, so I did have a weird bowel movement and it was like oh, you are going to have weird bowel movements afterwards, you're going to have weird bowel movements.
Speaker 2:I was weird. I didn't have any.
Speaker 1:I had strange bowel movements.
Speaker 2:I didn't have any, remember, I just restarted. I was like, okay, that was it Be mindful of it.
Speaker 1:Abe had weird bowel movements too I also had them. I'll be honest with you. I was glad I was in the shower. I actually did. I what I thought was I just and it was like water-ish black. Whatever it's going to look strange?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because your body is just pushing out the rest of the stuff, yep.
Speaker 1:I would go a little bit more into that, but I know I want to keep this short and tight. So also really great things for you guys to look up. The other really great benefit of this is the actual trigger of human growth hormone in your body.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a 1000% increase.
Speaker 1:This is a crazy increase to human growth hormone. It is a awesome, awesome side effect of this and a lot of what it does is actually repairs a lot of the scar tissue in your brain and you'll notice that afterwards because I found myself being in a better cognitive state during and after.
Speaker 2:You're going to feel like you're tired and you're going to have different values.
Speaker 1:But you're going to see quite a bit of a change in that period. Again, I mean, I would say set your goals. I'm going to try and do 72. If you want to do less, do less. You're doing 72? I'm going to do 72. Oh damn, okay, I'm going to try and do 72. And rest up, man. Okay, we're going to have fun in the group. Yeah, yeah, it's going to be a good time.
Speaker 2:I guess I'll create a channel tonight, I'll make you a moderator on it and then we'll start inviting people in to start talking about everything. We'll drop the links to the episode when it drops.
Speaker 1:It's not too late If you hear this. We're going to probably release this on Saturday probably.
Speaker 2:I'm going to release Matt's episode tomorrow. Like I said, I ran out of fucking space on my computer, so now I finally dumped all his footage on there and I have to dump all that onto my hard drives. It's a mess being a videographer and having all this day, all this. It's crazy. I go through terabytes every month. It's so insane.
Speaker 1:But the long and short of that is, if you're hearing this before Christmas, it is not too late.
Speaker 2:DM or do it yourself, like if you don't have to join our group. But it's better to do in a tribe environment with everybody hanging out. Yeah, that's the buzzword I was going to use. It's a tribe baby.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:So, on that note, I appreciate you all for fucking with us and for fasting with us.
Speaker 1:For fasting with us. I'll tell you what we went from Brazil brothers to lean ground, beef brothers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 98-2.
Speaker 1:No, I'd probably say I'm more like an 87-thorough guy right now. I am looking pretty good. You look good. You see the locks. You too, you see the locks.
Speaker 2:I see them. They're gorgeous. Don't put your headphones on my microphone. You put them over there. Fuck up, god, I'm tired of you. Yeah, let's go to sleep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I actually have to go to sleep Because you have class tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2:I have class tomorrow. Yeah, I do not, I cancel that.
Speaker 1:God, Evan, you are a fucking sick bastard.
Speaker 2:On that note, I appreciate you all for fucking with us and fasting with us. Peace, God, God, God, God God.