Embark on a journey through the chaotic charm of podcast and video production, where gear mishaps become teachable moments and lighting isn't just about setting the mood—it's an art. Join me and my special guest, Tom "The Dude from Dudes" , as we navigate the intersection of creativity and discipline, from wrestling rings to recording studios. This episode is a treasure trove of behind-the-scenes anecdotes, workflow hacks, and a candid discussion on the importance of supporting the underdog, be it in business or the bustling aisles of local farmers' markets.
In this packed episode, we explore the nuances of professional editing software, the art of balancing client demands with personal boundaries, and the unexpected joy of starting his seasoning company, "Dudes Gourmet" amidst a global pandemic. Whether you're a creator looking for tips to optimize your setup or a dreamer on the cusp of entrepreneurship, this conversation is an invitation to consider the subtle choices that flavor our daily lives.
We shaes insights into maintaining peak physical and mental condition, while I open up about the challenges and triumphs of content creation on the go. We wrap with a nod to the importance of community, highlighting the incredible people who turn the wheels of local business. Plug in your headphones and prepare for a dose of reality, laughter, and a touch of gourmet seasoning.
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Embark on a journey through the chaotic charm of podcast and video production, where gear mishaps become teachable moments and lighting isn't just about setting the mood—it's an art. Join me and my special guest, Tom "The Dude from Dudes" , as we navigate the intersection of creativity and discipline, from wrestling rings to recording studios. This episode is a treasure trove of behind-the-scenes anecdotes, workflow hacks, and a candid discussion on the importance of supporting the underdog, be it in business or the bustling aisles of local farmers' markets.
In this packed episode, we explore the nuances of professional editing software, the art of balancing client demands with personal boundaries, and the unexpected joy of starting his seasoning company, "Dudes Gourmet" amidst a global pandemic. Whether you're a creator looking for tips to optimize your setup or a dreamer on the cusp of entrepreneurship, this conversation is an invitation to consider the subtle choices that flavor our daily lives.
We shaes insights into maintaining peak physical and mental condition, while I open up about the challenges and triumphs of content creation on the go. We wrap with a nod to the importance of community, highlighting the incredible people who turn the wheels of local business. Plug in your headphones and prepare for a dose of reality, laughter, and a touch of gourmet seasoning.
https://dudesgourmet.com/
Code "Rizzles" to enter our giveaway for a $200 chef knife on purchases $20 and over!
So I was actually going to do the roadcaster, because a lot of people do the roadcaster. It's just like the quintessential podcaster slash, you know, streaming creator type of a Board. So this way you can do everything like that and it's cool because then you can hook cell phones up to it and make calls and do all that kind of stuff. But there were a lot of People saying that they were crashing in the middle of podcasts and you don't hear a, even if, even if let's say, out of a thousand, a hundred of them crash. That's too high of a frequency for me. Like that's yeah, that'll automatically make me nervous. And and I'm already like Incessantly checking the gear throughout the podcast because of being a one-man show, so you're constantly looking around like checking each camera to make sure that it's still rolling, because there's been plenty of podcasts where all of a sudden we're 10 minutes in and I go to look at my guest camera and it was a. I hit it but it just for some reason turned off.
Speaker 2:So when I started, I started with like the road. The road goes like the little yeah, the little microphones. So now the new one has, like you can record on it, which I always have it on, because sometimes I Well, because my b-roll camera is always the one that does the audio because it just it just needs the audio, you know, yeah, so I always like leave that on and it's so nice having the file of the whole audio instead of editing it through the video. Yeah, it's like sometimes you forget and they're like oh no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's tough because you know there's a million different things that start going on when you're doing it and you know, even with me with the podcast for Video and then audio sometimes, if you have to, it's rare is it's been rare that I've had to take Clips or chunks out of podcasts that I've done with people and edit them. It's only if some, if some really outlandish shit was said and I just like I can't have that, I'm not, I am, I have no following to even you know, be like oh no, nick's not, like that, like I can't, I can't have shit like that out there in the world. So like I just take it back. But it's tough because then obviously you have to go back, you have to edit the audio side, then you have to edit the video side, you have to match all the time codes up. So it's, it can be, it can be a little difficult, so anyway. So like I just I was looking for a new way to Record some of the podcast and I found this board and I just I fell in love with, based on the feature set, the touchscreen capabilities and truthfully I mean these are all mic inputs so I could have that many guests.
Speaker 1:I can have 10, 10 guests for for microphones to come in and do it, whereas, like last time, my old board was only four, because it was something that was used for video creation, not necessarily Audio. So you just you know you're looking around in here, you see. I mean you just start to Learn what you like and what suits your workflow and what doesn't. You know, there's a lot of stuff that I've purchased, that in this room that I just go. I wish I didn't purchase that. I could have rented it for a couple of gigs. I didn't need to buy it and spend 1500, 2000 bucks on something like that.
Speaker 2:I remember doing that with lenses because I used to do content for restaurants like an 85 millimeter lens, I used it like three places. Yeah, 700 bucks could rent it for 15.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I mean, yeah, 150 dollars for three days, you could have probably rented it. It's crazy. You know there's a Photography lights. I don't really I do photos, but I don't do it like that. I mean, I could just bring the lights for my video stuff that I've purchased. I could just bring those and just do continuous light sources for photo. But you put for food photos. But you see all these people online. They're like, oh, this is what you need, you need to scram, and you know, you know that and you start getting excited. You're like, yeah, yeah, you start racking it up on B&H and all of a sudden it's a $40,000 order. You go, whoa you need?
Speaker 2:you need a gray card for video and that's it. I need to be really good at post. That's what I learned.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the post is is big, the post is, it's in. It's been interesting. I switched softwares. I was doing premier pro for years and years and years. Start yeah, we've been started.
Speaker 2:Yeah we've been started. I thought we're like introducing. No, I don't do intros. All right, what's up? Oh cool, all right.
Speaker 1:I don't do it, it's just very relaxed. I mean it sometimes. I'll say welcome to the show time.
Speaker 2:Look, I'm here hey that's the homie.
Speaker 1:That's the homie right there. So I used to do premier pro for a long time and then I switched to DaVinci Resolve.
Speaker 2:And DaVinci Resolve has been beautiful I mean the coloring suite, just the editing workflow and then I don't have to deal with all those fucking crashes that occur on Premier Pro constant crashing so I was using Final Cut and, like a lot of the stuff that I use now is just iMovie, because it's easier and if you're gonna do stuff on your phone, cap cuts easy too, cap cuts very easy, I mean, for people that don't need to do anything insane and just stitch some things together and put some Transitions in and have some music that goes behind it easy, I mean, it doesn't get easier than that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but a lot of these big box software companies that create this video editing software or these NLEs, these non-linear editing softwares, they actually are Transitioning into putting their software on iPads now, yeah, and iPhones, because it's people are just on the go. Yeah, I'm even for a guy like me, if I have, if I'm at an event when I was doing a lot of the expo stuff, I would bring my laptop with me. But now could you bring an iPad with me. I can offload some of the video footage. I can keep the real edits to my laptop when I get back to the room.
Speaker 1:But if there's something like crazy that happens that we want to get it out right, especially for rain, like if we want to get it out Right, then in there, I mean I can just go in the back, offload real quick, boo-boo, give it to the social media manager and she's got it on her phone in literally 10 minutes. And it just happened, whereas, yeah, think about 30 years ago, how, how quickly things would come out. It wasn't quick, it was two, three days sometimes.
Speaker 2:It's amazing and Apple has made it really easy to like, especially with all those plugins for the phone. Yeah, if you have cell phone service, you have a camera, you have great quality footage. You upload it right into the thing out. It's on the Instagram real quick basic edits. It's amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and now there's a. There's a lot of different softwares that integrate into the cameras frame I owe is a, a software that I use online that I offload my videos to clients to show them so they can scan through footage. If they want to look Through rough cuts, okay, scan through footage, they can leave comments, they can do all that and then when I send final videos they can view it, leave me notes if I have to change anything, and then I can just say, say I'm on revision 2 of a video. I can actually overlay that video on top of the original one so they can see the changes hand-in-hand and go okay, no, no, no, we like the first one, or we want to change this again or this, or it's perfect now. So it makes it easy. But they actually have cloud to Frame.
Speaker 1:I owe software now. So if I have internet and I'm at a shoot and I am shooting with any camera actually it's with the atomis top monitors I can actually, as I'm recording like right now, as I'm recording on that atomis it can be going to a post-production computer for somebody that's logged in somewhere else. That's amazing. It's pretty fucking cool, I mean it's. It's sick when you start thinking about things like that, where then, as a, you know what I would like, what I really focus on and try to be, which is a DP. So, like a director of photography, when I start focusing on Shots and content, can some always now I can focus like my editor is gonna edit great, yeah, now I can focus and actually be in the moment, capture the shots, make sure the lighting looks good, all that stuff and the technology is Advancing pretty crazy on that aspect too.
Speaker 2:That's like, that's awesome. I didn't know that they were all wireless like that. Yeah, so you could be in California that can be logged in in New York. Oh yeah, and that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty sick. I mean stuff like that just makes workflow. Stuff with teams is so much easier. I mean I've worked hand-in-hand with a couple of teams here and there. I'd like to be doing more of that because it takes the stress off of me and I don't have to do everything, because when I have to do everything, you know some things get sacrificed because you're you have limited time on a shoot. You have a limited time to work with a certain, you know, let's say, model or person. You know my dude, taylor.
Speaker 1:I just put a video up of him. We got all that content in 40 minutes, like the stuff that we shot at the gym. Okay, 40 minutes. I shot it in log, which is a flat profile, so I color graded all of it afterwards. I mean no lights, run and gun with cinema lenses, all manual lenses, no autofocus. I mean we did all of that 40 minutes and Would have been nice to have an hour and 40 minutes. Oh yeah, but he had shit, he had shit to do and I had shit to do. So it's like you get it as you can, you run and gun and that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I also like for me. Because I'm doing like food stuff. I kind of know what you need to see, so I write a shot list, believe it or not, and it makes my life a lot easier. Oh yeah, instead of like, when you're cooking something that takes like two hours, instead of having your camera going for two hours and you're like, oh man, like what am I gonna do this? Suck and edit this, isn't it gonna be horrible? Go down your shot list, boom, you need this, you need that, and it's just so much easier. So I've been able to up, like my content production. Well, the production is better because you're following exactly the shots that you need, and then it's just easier on the on the back end. So, like you can kind of pay more attention to the little things that you would necessarily Forget, like a thumbnail or like stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so and think about how long, how long it would take on the back end just to go, just just to search through everything, all the footage, just to try to find something when I first started, I used to hate editing.
Speaker 2:I think that's when I really started like I Would have to drink to edit. It would be bad, because I would just sit there be like. I hate watching myself too, so it's like.
Speaker 1:What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm on camera for three hours and I have to go. I have to screw up the roll.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like oh, and then you have to clean the kitchen and you gotta go.
Speaker 1:Just pouring it out.
Speaker 2:I'll kill it. Make me happy. I heard your stimulant.
Speaker 1:But why am I tired? I don't get it. Yeah, it's tough, man, it's. It's tough to have to do all of that. The editing I used to love. It's not that I don't love it anymore. Would you learn on Like software, yeah, premiere, premiere. Yeah which is crazy, because I worked at Apple for a long time never did Final Cut I they gave us free Final Cut, so I, I used Final Cut a little bit. I just didn't love the magnetic timeline. It just didn't jump out to me as something that I loved.
Speaker 2:So when I first started using Final Cut, I just immediately one day was like, okay, I movie is like everybody has this, let's learn Final Cut. Yeah, so I learned Final Cut. And then, I Guess, when you start messing around with like the, the menus and stuff because I didn't, I never like, I just kind of picked it up on like YouTube and I look, taught myself. Yeah, once you start messing around with things and your settings are changing, I don't know how to put them back. Now everything opens to that setting. I was just like, forget this. I went right back to I movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, youtube University, it's the best, it's the best tool. Yeah, I, you know I tried to. I tried Final Cut a couple of times and I just I didn't love it and I just said you know what, let me learn premiere, because you start looking at all these YouTube people. I mean, this is in 2017, 2018, when I first started learning. So you start looking at all these YouTube people and they're all on premiere, all on premiere.
Speaker 1:They're all you know dick riding premiere and adobe and this and that. So you go okay, cool. And then you sign up and then you start seeing like cross workflows with premiere and after effects and you know Motion graphics and this and that they have, like the adobe suite and you can log into anywhere, right? So you basically log in and then yeah, start 25 bucks, 30 bucks a month and you get all. You get everything.
Speaker 2:You get Photoshop, you get a room, you get and then it's premier, it's all cloud based, right, so you can log in on any computer. Yeah, I mean, that's that's. That's a good interface to have, man.
Speaker 1:It's nice. But now you start looking at it in terms of like, how many, how many subscriptions do you have every month? It's exhausting, yeah. And even when you manage them, you go Well, I kind of like watching something here. Oh well, I use this for accounting. Oh well, I use this for CRM and keeping up with clients and I use this for mail promos. And you start looking at all of it. You know, I use I need this to video edit because it's part of my premiere pro and yeah, it's the whole suite. Fuck it. You know I'll pay the $50 a month because they keep upping it. But then you have something like DaVinci resolve, which is $300 one-time license. You have the software, nice, and they Continue and they will continue to upgrade you for now. I mean, I'm sure at some point they'll change it, but they have continued to upgrade everybody as each one comes out every year. So you buy the first license and you've been good for years now.
Speaker 2:I mean that's sick. Yeah, I, uh, I have a Shopify store. So, like all the plugins because my one when you first met me, the website was like kind of basic. Now it's like insane. I have to check it out. These are all like plugins that you need to like buy to make it look like that is it a monthly or is it a one time?
Speaker 2:It's a monthly like. It's like this, this thing seven bucks, that means 12 bucks. Your email thing is 39 bucks and at the end of the day you're like a lot of money is going into running this company. So everybody should go to dudes where made calm and buy more dudes. We have the absolute best all natural seasonings around, just saying what's your favorite? I'm gonna get into this, but what's your favorite? So I'm a firm believer that honey chip whole take cures hangovers. It's got natural honey in it and just enough salt to get your electrolytes back in balance. So I put that stuff on eggs like all the time. I think that's what I screamed at you when I saw you at the farmers market.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah and I, yeah, and I bought that at Dix, did you? Yeah, but that's the one I bought at Dix and I've been putting it on everything. It's really good.
Speaker 2:It's. It's really things you can put on anything. Vegetables. I wouldn't say put it on, don't put it on steak, but like you can put it on anything else. Okay, like veggies. I like to make broccoli with it. I just did chicken wings with it with my nephew on the dudes gourmet Instagram page. He was having so much fun. He's so cute. That's awesome. He's like uncle Tom, can we make a video? I was like, yeah, man, what do you want to do? I was like, let's do it. So he's like wings and then dude the kids so funny man. I was feeding them lines. He's, they're quick. Now, man, he's only six, probably, so smart. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:It's all I mean. It's I. I think there's a there's a crossover point in age and then in the the amount of information that everybody has at a given Times, because they get to see so much more and absorb so much more than we did at a younger age. Yeah, because we didn't have these little fucking boxes in our hands that just showed you anything you wanted at any point At any given point of time. But I think as the age goes up and then we have these boxes that continually show us things, there's a drop-off of like yeah, there's a lot of knowledge there, but now we're just using it for dumb shit.
Speaker 1:So you start to you start to not learn as much, and it's just regular shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like I don't know. I feel like everybody's can definitely get stuck at scrolling into like Instagram and Tik Tok hell, let me start on that man.
Speaker 1:I talk about this all the time and it's so tough and people probably think I'm a broken record. It's tough because my you know, our business is on it. Yeah, that's the tough part. The tough part is that if I don't post podcast clips, if I don't post Videos of the clients that I'm working with, if I don't post photos, or just to just to somewhat stay relevant, I'm no one famous algorithm, bro. Exactly, you got to catch the algorithm just to somewhat stay famous. Then you start to just get lost, lost, lost, and then nobody hears from you. Now that's not to say that you couldn't get work, you couldn't do sales, because you're still selling at farmers markets and in person and at stores and big box locations, which is amazing. But I mean just the, the awareness of the brand and just being able to see people and interact with people. That's really what it's for. But you know the adverse for myself and I wanna hear your standpoint on it the more that I'm on that, the more unhappy I am.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The more I'm on my phone, the more unhappy I am in life. Yeah, the more depressed I am. And it's not even like a depression, like oh, I'm so upset, it's just like you just feel off. You're just like why am I? I'm doing great in the world Like, why am I just off? Like I just feel just kind of not great. And you start to distance yourself. But then you're like, fuck, I gotta post a video. Then you're on, but then it sucks you back in Cause. Now you're commenting back to people, you're posting stories. Every single social media site requires a different cut of length and height and style. And so you're just like fuck. So an hour goes by posting one piece of content that got 10 likes, because that one just didn't hit.
Speaker 2:So you're like how about when you have to do it in multiple different places? Like, tiktok doesn't use the same music as Instagram and you can't use that, and that license isn't good for this. So, like, by the end of the day, you made a cooking video that took you 30 minutes to shoot Okay, 25 minutes to edit, okay, an hour to find the right audio for both of these things Okay. But it's so annoying man.
Speaker 1:Especially if you're working royalty free music. That's probably that's. I think that that has been the thing that has created my not distaste for total editing, but just that first hiccup Cause you can't even start without the music. So it's like, until I get a song, I can't even get into this yet. It's like I know what the shots are, I know what I captured, but I have to. I have to be able to like get something that not only matches the vibe of the video but it's going to get people excited when they watch it.
Speaker 2:Yup, so I do the same thing. I'm a big fan of Epidemic Sound. They're great Artlist. They're all these, all these spots.
Speaker 2:So, I'm not familiar with Artlist, but I know that Epidemic Sound will only sponsor you on one license for Instagram and TikTok. But your videos can't be longer than a minute and so it's like at 59 seconds I'm like at the cutoff, or you can only use 59 seconds of their music, so, like sometimes, they'll be like an intro of me talking about what I'm doing and then I'll go into it. But even when you pay for a license, yeah, really yeah.
Speaker 1:So I use Epidemic with Rain. I have Epidemic with Rain and then I pay for Artlist on my own. Okay, artlist is pretty good. I mean, I've had them for a couple of years. I think it's all the same shit. You know what I'm saying? Like it's the same dudes that are sitting in their basement making the same beats and they're just like they're just changing them the tone slightly and then sending it out to every royalty-free site and they're just like yeah, use my shit, but now you gotta pay them $300 a year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess you're right yeah.
Speaker 1:It doesn't get me excited. Like you know, the video that I did today for Taylor, that was all sound effects. I didn't even use any audio. Oh nice, there was no music. It was a grandfather clock, it was the machine, him using the actual ski machine and it was an impact like a gradual impact. That's all it was and that made a sick video. I didn't even have to search for music. I was just like I know the sound effects that I want. I want a clock ticking because I want it to go two days high rocks. So that's kind of. It's cool how and I get these blasts of motivation to edit randomly. Me too. I could be sitting for a week on footage and just be like I have no idea how to start. It'll be 1138 at night. I'll be getting in bed and all of a sudden I'll be like oh, oh, that's what I gotta do with it. And then I'm on my laptop till two in the morning and then I'm just like, oh sick, I pumped out a dope, edit and go to bed.
Speaker 2:I did that the other day with this soy marinated chicken. One of my cameras I was not paying attention One it was not on and I was like how am I gonna fix this?
Speaker 1:I was like, how am I gonna fix this? You're riding me to look at the camera. Okay right, Are the red lights going? Yeah, the red lights are going, they're good.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I blew a shot and I was like, oh man, I don't wanna waste this. This was like a long like this was like an hour and a half thing that I was doing this for and I was all pumped and I remember I had the audio and I just remember I was like, dude, you know what, I kept the B-roll camera running and I kept the GoPro running at the same time. I was like, let's just get it to match and let's just make this video out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like a little top down POV walk you through things instead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know what? That's also the process of learning. Like me, I came from the kitchen to being a creator. Okay, so it's constantly a learning process. You learn how to get through those hiccups like, oh no, I blew a shot, let's fix it. Let's still get the content out there, because you have to stay relevant with nowadays.
Speaker 1:And it happens more than people would think that things get fucked up. You could be so on top of your shit. You could have every piece of equipment ready to roll. You could have everything, just the shot list, everything like that. Guarantee at least one out of every couple of shoots something happens. A memory card corrupts. That happens all the time to me. A memory card corrupts just for the no fucking reason. Then I'll get rid of that memory card. I'll buy a new one because I'm not trusting that card again.
Speaker 2:I did a brisket, okay, front to back, and I didn't check the camera. I guess when I put the memory card into my Canon, it like chipped back one of the little pieces, oh, to lock it, yes, so it wrote everything. And then, when I pulled it out forcefully, I hit the button like I was supposed to. Yeah, you ejected it. And then I put it into the little thing and it wouldn't read because one of the things was peeled back. I was like you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that it's crazy dude. And then you sit there and you just go fuck. You know, I start to. I don't know if it's my older age now, which I'm not old, but I don't know if it's, like me, just age at this point. You're younger than me, bro, I'm 32, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm 38. I'm a handsome 38, but I'm a Handsome crazy 38.
Speaker 1:Crazy. I'm glad I didn't have like a section of just like women here, because they would have just been all eyes on you.
Speaker 2:I would have been like damn you know. Stop it, bro. Stop it, what the hell? You're in better shape than me, though come on.
Speaker 1:That's yeah, but I'm so tired. I'm so tired. Everything hurts. My ankle's still recovering. Everything hurts.
Speaker 2:I know that feeling. Yes, my buddy's got a renovation company so we did a demo yesterday. I was slinging a sledgehammer, oh yeah, dude. Oh man, four hours of that I was. Then we were picking up a floor, then four hours of that and you're just like, at the end of the day I kind of think that I had a cheeseburger for lunch, a big one. That was probably a big like bad move. I should have had, like a salad.
Speaker 1:Chad some light, some light. Yeah, especially when you do manual labor, you need some light, you know, unless you're a season construction worker that's just griddled with just every, just like they'll eat a whole sloppy Joe and half of the family feast from Boston Market and they'll just be like, yeah, I ready to go back to work. They'll just be continue, bam, bam. No, not the life of that yeah, you and I, we need to salad.
Speaker 2:No, I should have got that salad. I remember saying it all day. I was like I should have got that salad, I should have got that salad Milk was a bad choice.
Speaker 1:The burger was so heavy.
Speaker 2:It was a good burger, though.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm sure, where'd you get it from?
Speaker 2:We were in Port Washington. I think we were at the Port Washington Diner. It was pretty good, that was good. I was like all right well.
Speaker 1:Nothing beats a $10 Diner burger, man Fries burger. We were in Port Washington, it was 15. It was at least 50, and you sold the kidney right you talked to. Do you guys want my kidney now or afterwards? Yeah right, and I have to still wash dishes. That's crazy, too much. How much was that milk? Did you leave the caviar off too? God damn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it was reasonable. For four of us it was like $65, $80.
Speaker 1:It's tough man. I was talking to a couple of friends of mine recently. You can't leave the house without spending $100. Now Used to be you can't leave the house without spending $20. That used to be like the saying oh, you can't leave the house without spending $20. Now you can't leave the house without spending $100. Every time I go to the grocery store and you're doing all the food man, it's like $150, $200 minimum.
Speaker 2:So do you shop at BJs or Costco?
Speaker 1:I don't, because I don't live near them. So it's a pain in the ass for me and it seems like all right, nick, just go and just get it done. But it's such a hassle to go all the way down to the 110 area when I'm in the middle of my day, because you don't want to go when it's crowded because the lines are around the corner.
Speaker 2:So that's why BJs open at 8, dude 8 AM. Yeah, man, you get a cup of coffee at 7. You work your way down there. I'm the one right in Deer Park. There's one close. I'm 110 over here too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I may have to start booking the 845 class at my buddy's spot that I train at in the morning. I may have to start booking the 845 class and then by the time it's 945, I can hit a consider in Lindenhurst. Yeah, but it's tough because right when that's done I'm trying to get back to start editing or figure out what I have to do for the day. Well, Lindenhurst.
Speaker 2:There's a place in Copac called Fruit Tree Farms and they're this little local farmer stuff and everything is super fresh and it's cheap as hell, dude. So you know all the spots. Yeah, man, I'm convinced that this place gives all their stuff to the farmer's market stuff Because it's the freshest stuff. You walk in there and the girls are all really pretty in Spanish and I can't hear what they're saying. It's fine, but they're really pretty, but they're also super helpful, but the produce is awesome. Bro, when you walk in there you'll understand what I'm saying. And it's at where is it? Again? It's right in Copac. So if you're in Lindenhurst, just type in Fruit Tree Farms. It can't be that far away.
Speaker 1:Fruit Tree Farms. I'll write that down.
Speaker 2:It's probably a little further south than where you are, but when you go in there, my friend of mine took me in there and it was a great place. I'm really happy that you showed me that place.
Speaker 1:Wait, there's fruit there, because all I heard was pretty Spanish girls.
Speaker 2:There's that too, but it's Fruit Tree Farms. It's awesome, bro, and the butcher's great too. Man, I couldn't even believe the prices for everything. I was like, wow, these are great prices, the cuts are nice, I'm in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, meat is tough because I usually order from Force of Nature. So I usually order the meat from them and you start paying for what it is. I mean, they're sending it across the country and whatnot. So I think it usually winds up being like $13 or $14 for 14 to 16 ounces.
Speaker 1:So, it's expensive, but it's also venison. It's also grass-fed elk. It's all these different cuts that you wouldn't normally get unless people were requesting them by the butcher in mass. There's a really good R&S butcher over here, right on what is that? Wall Street? What is that? It's right in South Down. It's like that weird little mini town up north, right here, right over here. Yeah, I know what that is. So R&S the butcher over there is super good, but then we're going back to $30 to $40 for one steak. It's like, okay, the quality is great, but like You're a New York Shore boy.
Speaker 2:I've always been here. So now I live in Deer Park, I go to Babylon Village Meat Markets. Dave, he's got every cut you can think of of, like Wagyu, of anything you can think of, like A5, every grade. It's awesome, dude, is that the?
Speaker 1:hat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, actually, yeah, I went in there actually the other day because I made bacon and I was like, yo, dude, can you slice this and tell me how it is? He had some of it. Yo, this is great. And then he just gave me the hat and I was like, yeah, this is sick, bro. They're awesome. Dude, I'm going to go to the Village Meat Market and talk to Dave If you have any questions. He knows everything, where everything's sourced, everything's awesome. He's a good dude too. It's a family-owned place, it's fun.
Speaker 1:Cool, I'm going to support them. That's big for me, man, and that's another reason. First off, I wanted you to come through, hang out, chop it up, because you're just a good dude and literally you're just. I'm literally just happy to be here, bro. I appreciate you. When I first met you at the farmers market in Huntington, my mom and I were I had the dog with me yeah yeah. So my mom and I were just walking around just hanging out, just perusing, and you just energy on 200.
Speaker 1:You were just ready to go salesman of the year, type 5s and I was like, all right, we got to go see what's up with him. Anyway, that's why we were talking to you. My mom picked up one seasoning I told you. I said I was waiting to get rid of all the season I had. I said I got to get rid of the fucking flavor God, flavor God and all these other ones.
Speaker 1:And I said, once I'm done, I got to support. So I just finished, before I got you in. I just finished my seasonings and I was at Dick's buying a Yeti and I said, oh, he's in the store now, so let's go. So it all goes back to local small business. Yeah, man, that's huge for me. Me too, especially after COVID. I mean, I was a small business before COVID but things kind of just align with you better and you just go. Yeah, you got to support your people. So I wanted to talk to you about just how did you first start, dudes? What was the? You said you came from the restaurant background. So where did you work? How many years were you doing in that first?
Speaker 2:So my dad opened up a restaurant right out of high school. So this was back in 2004 and it was out in Montauk. So I was actually the bartender but I kept going into the kitchen and I was hanging out with our chef, chris, and Chris Coleman actually was on a chop champion now, oh shit, yeah, so this was before he was a chop champion, so he was cool. Now he's at Parkside and Corona Queens I think he's got a couple other restaurants under his belt and I kind of just like bounced around the restaurant industry until I was at this company called Clubcore. They're the golf company that owns, like the Hamlet and all those places.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I live in the Hamlet, not the golf country club one, but I live in the Hamlet on Orlo Sabej, so in Plainview.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I think it's. There's no golf club there. No, there's no golf club, so it might not be a Clubcore Hamlet.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, we moved in there in 01 when they first opened it. Okay, we moved from West Hamstead to Melville, waited for it to be built. It was almost supposed to be a year and then it was three and a half. So I went to Dicks Hill School District and then I moved again and I started in Plainview.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, yeah, so, yeah. So I was one of their guys at the one in Comac, which is really weird because I'm from Comac, so I saw all my friends' parents. It was just weird at the time. So I was there for a little bit. Then the pandemic happened and then the restaurants all shut down.
Speaker 2:So I had started the LLC for this, maybe like four, five weeks before the world shut down, because I knew that I wanted to do my own thing, because, yeah, I don't want to give him a plug, but yeah, flavorgod was like a big influence on me doing this, because I was just like I can kind of put out a better product. I think I'm a little funnier than him. Like you know, let's see what happens. So I was cooking for God knows how long and then the world shut down and I realized that nobody knew how to cook for themselves. So I started making these really basic cooking videos and I was kind of engaging and I was kind of funny and people started buying. So I was like holy shit, I have a business here. Like let's go.
Speaker 1:And what did you start out with? Like? How many seasonings did you come out the gate with? What was the formulation process like when you were making them?
Speaker 2:So my whole thing was I knew that I wanted a Kansas City style steak seasoning. I had already been making it Okay, so I had the recipe. We had that one. I wanted to do one for chicken, I wanted to do one for fish, but I also wanted to be health conscious, so I did a lot of the lower sodium ones first. So flipping the bird was actually one of the first ones that we had over here. It's a low sodium actually, no sodium salt, salt free seasoning for chicken. It's awesome and it's pretty cool. It's got like kind of Mediterranean vibes. You can use it for chicken wings as a brine. You can use it just right on the chicken. I like to honestly put it in in Mayo and spread it on chicken thighs with a little salt dude and get like a crust on your chicken and pans here. The hell out of them. That's my favorite. But yeah, man, they're all fun dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have fun with it. That's the most important thing. It's like you take it seriously but you don't, and you know what I'm saying by that. You're not like oh, this is the Kansas. City robe and you're like making fun names. Like I love it when you call me steak poppy.
Speaker 2:I love it Like crop duster, who has a vegetable seasoning called crop duster. You know like, come on, like sweet baby Jesus. You see this one, yeah. So this is like towel digging nights, kind of like vibes on it there's a sweet baby Jesus. And this is for beer can, chicken, ribs, wings and salmon. We were just having a good time with this one. This is actually one of my favorites.
Speaker 1:So you wanted to start a Kentucky, kansas City? Yes, so what it? What it constitutes a Kansas City rub versus any other ones.
Speaker 2:Got a little brown sugar and a little more salt. There's like it's just kind of deeper flavors. That one's fun, dude, that's nice. Yeah, and I wanted something that was especially good for open flames. So Kansas City barbecue is awesome. It's great, right I get awesome. Dude. So Kansas City style is usually always on like open flames charcoal, so it's going to char up real nice that one's not here. But that was the first one. And then we did some other funny ones. Honey Chipotle was one of the ones right out of the gate too.
Speaker 1:I love that one. That's the one I snagged. Really good and you can so like these little granulates. Are these? That's the pieces of honey? Yep, yeah, so good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then we have my grandma, lucy's Italian seasoning over here, which is so funny because she loves visiting me at the farmer's market. So I'll like grab her and now like there's people that will come back just for Lucy's seasoning and I'll like grab my grandma and make them, make her take pictures with everybody that buys the seasonings from like her seasoning. It's awesome. She's just like stop it, stop it. I didn't go to the beauty parlor. My hair's not done like a typical little, typical old Italian grandma. Oh, I love her, she's the best. It's amazing.
Speaker 1:I'm actually going to get a drink. I got a little little little little something in the back of my throat now.
Speaker 2:Oh, sorry about that, that was probably that was probably the season. Yeah, if you're feeling dehydrated, make sure it's a rain.
Speaker 1:Make sure it's a rain, so that you're dehydrated. Yeah more, but you're energized.
Speaker 2:Hey, actually can I get one of those? Cause I totally grabbed the wrong one because this other company likes to just fool people.
Speaker 1:What? Oh gosh Right. What would you like.
Speaker 2:Anything but what's in my hand. Hey, would you like a light gummy bear? What's your favorite?
Speaker 1:Rainbow sherbet. You're Italian, so.
Speaker 2:Okay, am I going to know this?
Speaker 1:It checks out. I mean, it's like sherbet.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's like when. Okay, yes, how's this going? So far, pretty good.
Speaker 1:Easy. We don't, we don't cut. This is all. This is all. Staying on here, oh wow.
Speaker 2:Okay, wow, I'm glad that I've been on my best behavior of them.
Speaker 1:You don't have to. No, I've had. I've had people be on horrible behaviors, really. Yeah, we won't name names. No, we don't have to name names. Cheers, bro, cheers. I appreciate you, brother, thank you. Oh, that's so good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm into this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's rainbow sherbet. Yes, it is yeah. So it tastes like, it's like you're eating. You're like eating but drinking a sherbet. It's so good.
Speaker 2:That's a good one. Yeah, so how'd you hook up with these guys.
Speaker 1:So I was filming Kai Green, for I don't know if you know Kai Green's bodybuilder, so I was Kai Green's videographer. Yeah, with the dread.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's a monster bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kai is awesome and I was filming him for a few years and he was sponsored by Rain. So what happened was I became very friendly with the executives when they were in town for a couple of different shoots and then, when they were looking for people to, they have. They have hubs of people. So they have a group in Nashville, they have a group in Texas, I think they have somebody in Florida. Now they have California because that's Monster Energy. So that's where they're based. So they have all of these different companies, these different groups of people, and they didn't have anybody for the Northeast.
Speaker 1:So one thing led to another. They started talking to me about shooting monthly content for them. I said, yeah, I'd love to. I fuck with you guys. You guys are awesome, the executives are cool. I obviously love Kai. Kai moved to Florida during the pandemic but he would come back and forth to shoot content and then we wound up just settling on, you know, a set amount of deliverables each month, and that's kind of how it is. They sent me the fridge, they sent me unlimited reins, which I'm supposed to get a new shipment soon. So it's been a very fruitful relationship. They've been a great company to work with been a great company to work for. I've gotten to see a lot of different cool things. I've gotten to be treated like a VIP celebrity at certain shoots, where, not to say, you're not normally treated that way, but you know, when they take care of the camera guy too, it makes you feel good.
Speaker 2:You get a fucking sweet and instead of a regular bitch ass room.
Speaker 1:You're like, oh shit. So it's been a really good relationship with them and I just I've been enjoying it, and you know whether it goes for another 50 years or you know what I'm saying. I'm just appreciative of the opportunity that they've given me and that I'm able to do. And it's pretty freeform man, I get to film whatever I want. That's really kind of what it goes. We get set guidelines of the content that they're looking for each month, but generally it's in your hands to just shoot whoever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want, and you know models. You have to get approved by them, but besides that the content's kind of up to you. So it's been good. That's cool. That's cool. It's been a good little ride.
Speaker 2:Hey, what's a Kai Green's cheat day? Look like I've never seen it.
Speaker 1:I mean like I've never seen it. He hasn't really cheated, even when he was around me Doesn't really cheat. He just he's very regimented, he sticks to his meals. We would order him multiple meals for one meal. I mean we, you know, if you had to get him food from like a Denny's or something like that, because you're in an area that doesn't have meal prep and whatnot, you would just get him like four omelets I mean just like white omelets and would spit. He stays on his game. I don't think he's ever cheated in front of me. I think the most he's ever cheated was when we go out for like the athlete dinners and he just has steak and maybe some potatoes.
Speaker 2:And so, like I mean, he probably doesn't drink either, right? No, yeah, I didn't think so. He's a big boy, dope.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dope, he's good. I mean he trains for hours. I mean when we, yeah, when we go to, when we would go to locations. I mean he would train, for we would get to a location, let's say at like eight o'clock. He'd start training by like 8459. After he gets set up and sit like that People saying hi to him and whatnot. I mean we wouldn't leave till like one, two in the morning. Yeah, he's just nonstop.
Speaker 2:I have a. I have a friend that stays with me. He's actually I don't know if I should call him by a stage name he's a. He's a wrestler, oh shit, yeah. So I'll just call him by his EC three. So he stays with me. Ethan Carter. The third. He's the North American heavyweight champion right now for the NWA. Oh sick, yeah. So he came and he's so regimented on his diet and he's shredded. So he tells me he's like Tom, white rice chicken, that's it. That's it, white rice chicken, some veggies. Maybe I can have a steak white rice chicken. And I'm like, okay, he gets here, I pick him up, I start doing his meal prep. He's in the gym for like three, four hours, comes home, showers, does like a podcast, goes for a run. The kid I can't, he's, he's so regimented I get it. So so for him, kai probably is even more regimented than that, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean he's, he's very. You know, you gotta gotta let the dude sleep because he's just, he's a zombie if he doesn't, because he does so much. So it's like between the acting that he does, between the, the the gym shoots, between the meat and greets, between the traveling, I mean he doesn't stop, he doesn't stop. So it's, it's. It's very tough when you live in that lifestyle and from the outside it looks glamorous and not to say it isn't, but it's just, it's a very demanding life, even from me. On the content side it's very demanding. You have to film all day, from 6am till 1, 2 in the morning, and then his manager hitting me up, going, hey, we're going to get a recap for the day out by tomorrow morning, Right, and you just got back to the room, it's 2am, you just go, okay, Like, yeah, I need to sleep too. And four days straight of that, you're a fucking, you're toast, you know.
Speaker 1:When you get back and it, listen, it's nothing against him, that's he's running a business, so that's what he expects. He is the business and it's not even. You know, Kai just does Kai stuff. But his manager on the back end is the one that you know facilitates all of it and makes sure that the ship continues to sail. So it's a it's a very demanding lifestyle from everybody, Because even when we're in remote locations around the world, he'd have to be up the manager from back here setting up Ubers doing things. Isn't that? It's tough man, it's not easy, and it's it's, it's, it's taxing on everybody, and then that's just one trip out of like four for a month, or three for a month.
Speaker 2:I couldn't imagine having to plan all that stuff Like I'm not even good at it when we're in person, but doing it remotely for somebody else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was tough. Dubai I've talked about it before on the show Dubai was was one of the toughest trips I've ever taken in my life. That was very not even because it was cool. It was, don't get me wrong. I was very grateful to go and to experience Dubai, but I experienced it from a camera screen and hotel rooms and expos and gyms. That's really all I got to say. People were like, oh, did you really get to know? I didn't get to do nothing, that was work. Like people go. Oh, why don't you do this? Why don't you stay an extra day or two? It's like, well the dog's with my mom. I can't be selfish, she's already helping me out. So like I have to be understanding that there's a time limit. Like I have to go to these places, do my job and dip. Yeah, so like Dubai. For those that haven't heard it before, I wound up leaving Wednesday night. No, I wound up leaving. Yeah, I wound up leaving Wednesday night at 11pm. I landed in Dubai Thursday night 9pm.
Speaker 2:What's that flight like?
Speaker 1:13 hours. It was a coach didn't, didn't, didn't. Yeah, it was not in first class or extra leg room but I have a free room next to you.
Speaker 1:But I was doing the, I was doing the shuffle on the app before I got on the flight, so I was like kept moving my seat to anyone that didn't have a seat next to them. So I wound up being able to like curl up into the seat next to me a little bit and just kind of stretch my legs, kind of. The issue was that, um, you know, you're just trying to keep your mind off of like just the time that you're up there, because you think you're just going to go and knock and you don't know, you think you're going to sleep and I don't know.
Speaker 2:Nope, I'm the guy that has like four, five, six like things loaded on my iPad ready to go.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you have to have the whole. Yeah, I have to have the entire Hobbit trilogy on my iPads. This way, by the time he loses the ring again and gives it to Frodo, we're starting. We're starting Lord of the Rings now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll like, I'll grab like the whole first season of something, second season of something, or like every John Wick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah that's what I'm saying. So that's what I've done to Hawaii too. Hawaii was 11 hours. I've done that flight. I've done that flight. You know not doing going back and forth, because that would count as two, but I've done that twice.
Speaker 2:You do a lot of traveling. Where's your favorite place?
Speaker 1:I love Hawaii. I went there for vacation though Nice, so Hawaii was nice. Because I, as the pokey over there, hurts delicious, delicious and you get it at gas stations on the corner Fucking eight dollars, six dollars. It's like they just caught it that morning.
Speaker 2:I love like the food reviews and the food bloggers when they go over there and like no, the best pokey is right here. It was like caught this morning.
Speaker 1:It's like you know the shitty gas station. You look at this like smeared out windows and stuff. You're like, oh, what is this place? You go in there. The warm, fresh rice, you get the sesame oil, you get the nice. Did you try the? What Masabi?
Speaker 2:The spam, oh yeah the spam.
Speaker 1:The spam is good too. So I had a one of my roommates in college. Shout to Justin Felix, his mom, puerto Rican, they're, all you know, from Puerto Rico. I went to their house for a cookout one night. One day, man, the not only was the spread in Hawaii, no, no, no, no. This is when I was in Connecticut. They lived in Connecticut for college, but, man, the spread was unbelievable. And then the next morning, cause we stood? We stayed at her house because they were a little further than where we could drive back. The next morning she made us fried spam, spam and eggs, and it was delicious. That reminds me of my grandparents so much Italian, they cook Cuban.
Speaker 2:Oh, my grandfather was Cuban, he loved spam and it's crazy and I and I actually I actually bought my grandparents house so I live in their house and now I have spam in the exact same place where he used to keep it, in the in the cabinet, and I'm like, oh, every time I eat it I'm like even the legacy going, bro, Keeping the legacy going.
Speaker 2:And I actually um cause, like, uh, my grandmother was still living there when I bought it. Um, now she's older, she's in a home now, but I still love her. She's the best. Uh, she had this thing to like fry potatoes, like one of those skillet things, but like, um, I forgot what they were like a tabletop, little skillet, but like an old school like George Ormond type thing.
Speaker 2:No, it's like a. You put oil in it. It's like a little like skillet. I can't really spend it square, you just put the oil in. So I literally make potatoes in the same thing that she made it and I'm like, oh, man probably taste it.
Speaker 1:And then if you make it the same way and something else doesn't, taste the same.
Speaker 2:It smells up the house the exact same way. Yeah, I need that.
Speaker 1:I need that. That's the whole point. Uh, yeah, so I would say Hawaii was definitely one of my favorite spots to go to. Uh, I'm having a dilemma currently of I need to go on a vacation again. Can I recommend the place? Yeah, I have a buddy that owns a hotel down there. Which one? Uh, I don't know which one Chris owns, I'll tell you right now. Let me see.
Speaker 2:So my parents have a place down there, right on the uh Dutch side. Uh, I'm drawing a blank right now. Little Bay Beach, right on Little Bay Beach. Yeah, it's awesome, dude, when I tell you it's the best food I've ever had in my entire life on the French side, because they say that all like the best French chefs somehow end up in St Martin, maybe because they like the weather, but it is awesome. I don't blame them, man, you know that's that. So people are nice, man, they're friendly, the food's great, the drinks are strong, the sun's intense, the warm, the water's warm. You can be St Martin.
Speaker 1:St Martin. No, it is St Martin Um the Morgan.
Speaker 2:Where is it? What town? Let me see, you probably can't pronounce it. I couldn't even tell you. I'm sorry, ants Marcellus down there, I'm convinced that I saw Barthelamy. Yeah, that's St Barthes.
Speaker 1:Well, that's him. That's him, I guess, in a fishing spot. Well, it's in St Martin, it's only the Morgan is now officially open. This is in 2021.
Speaker 2:It's a 40 minute boat ride from St Martin to St.
Speaker 1:Barthes, that's the spot I don't know. It is St Martin, though.
Speaker 2:No, I think this is right by the airport. Yeah, I think so, okay. So do you ever see those people that are right behind the plane when they land? Yes, yes, when they're by the beach, by the beach? Yeah, that's SXM, that's the same spot, that's that airport, dude, and it's really funny. So there's like one day a week I think it's Saturdays where all the bigger planes come in, yeah, and people will line up against the fence when they take off and they'll just get blasted back into the water, bro.
Speaker 1:It's hilarious. I've seen all the videos. It's crazy, it's nuts. Yeah, I'll be down to go down somewhere like that. So like, my dilemma right now is things are good with work, I'm getting new clients, I have a lot of new retainer work that I'm working on, but I'm feeling like because I haven't actually gotten to take a break. So, like Kenji I've said a million times, kenji has epilepsy.
Speaker 2:Your dog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that leaves you on high alert all the time. And then his pills are 8am and 8pm, so then you're like always tied to the house and tied to him to get him his pills on time. And then you know there's just like the stress from work and life and this and that. So it's just kind of like everything just starts hitting you and if you haven't taken ample time to just turn the phone off and just be away, you don't really get that reset. And so now recently, even on a not even on a vacation side, I've actually been trying to consider and talk myself into getting another second phone.
Speaker 1:So I want to get a second phone that'll be my personal line, that my mom and my family only has like only them and then so I can turn this off and tuck it away and just be done and like not have social media on the other phone, not have anything, and just be able to just like have it in case I need to use it. But if I could still browse things and not get blasted with notifications, that's the problem you can put on, do not disturb, you're still going to get, you're still going to see the notifications pop up at. You know, because it's under the do not disturb tab. You can silence it, but you're still going to see the notifications pop up and just seeing the notification triggers you to want to go check something.
Speaker 2:That's when you just got to be stronger than the device man. It's tough, man. I love scrolling up as a business owner man. It's not important and scroll it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I and I agree with you. But then it's in the back of my mind, especially if I saw it Now. I'm like fucking I got to answer that person. Or if I post something, they're going to think that I'm actually intentionally ignoring them, when it's not the case. I'm either just busy or I just haven't had the chance to just like sit there and actually talk to you yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a big fan of just I'll respond on my time. I'm doing things. I'm doing it to me time right now. Yeah, Like I, if it's important, I'll get back to you. You know, like, the people that can get in touch with me when it's important know how to get in touch with me. You know what I mean. So it's like, if it's like an Instagram thing, I'm not really that, I don't really care.
Speaker 1:Well, I turned off most of the notifications for Instagram already. So I get, I get messages, I get DMs. Those are my notifications that I get, but besides that I don't. I don't get any other notifications for likes, comments, anything like that. I don't get it anymore. So when I open the app, I'll do. But my issue is is my Achilles heel is I'm constantly checking for new business, because I do get a lot of DMs about people saying, hey, I want to shoot this, hey, I'm interested in doing this, hey. But then you're in the app and then I'm 20 minutes go by and you're just like fuck it off, like I just want to, I want to read, I want to do things that are bettering me, but I just, by the time you get to the point of the day where you want to actually do these things, you're just mentally drained from like all the extra shit and it's like, well, fuck it. Now I just want to put something on TV and just veg out and not do anything.
Speaker 2:So I learned this from my buddy, steve, who's now working with me on doing some of my ads. He's great, but he basically sets like a time and he'll take a zoom call for like 15 minutes if he has it and that's it, like time goes off. All right, gotta go to the next call, like. And he's very regimented like that Time blocks. So it's very smart because I feel like he gets a lot of work done. He's like only going to allow this much brain power for this time and then he's on to the next task, which I have been doing also, and it's been helping me get a lot of shit done.
Speaker 1:I have to, I probably have to do incorporate some stuff like that. I really do, I have to incorporate and I've been getting better and especially when it's new business.
Speaker 2:Why? Because, listen, I got five minutes in between shoots right now. Let's get this over with. I'll hop on a zoom, I'll answer all your questions. But then I got to get off, and then it also kind of engages them like oh, this guy's busy, he's willing to give me five minutes right now, like you know. Then you kind of set in the tone like I'm busy, you know, like I'm giving you five minutes. Now I'll go back to my time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the. It's the access. That's the problem with me. It's the access and the ability for people to have my number and this and that, and that's not the problem, it's the.
Speaker 2:I don't want to sound like an asshole by saying that, but that's just for you.
Speaker 1:No people that, people that understand this will understand it.
Speaker 2:People that don't, yeah, but people that are listening to this are going to be like, oh, what a dick. No, you know what?
Speaker 1:I have a lot of mixed people. I got a lot of entrepreneur friends. I have a lot of people that work for companies that have business phones and then personal phones. Now imagine that you work for this company, you're the owner and your business phone is your personal phone and now it's constantly going off. You have to be able to separate these things and say and when enough is enough, when. Two, when when a client is taking too much from you because there is that crossover point, there's a point of like where it's okay, it's a new client or it's person. Hey, you know, I'm willing to help out this and that, but then they start overstepping the boundaries. You're like yo, yo, yo, 10 minutes, like that's all I got and then I can't help you anymore, like I've had to. I've had to sort people out and just be like yo, you have asked for 10 reedits and reedits aren't even like things that I've done. There. They're because you're deciding that you want a different color or you want this. This is taking way too much time.
Speaker 2:Could I ask you a question? Yeah, is it always the people that aren't that are the ones looking for a deal? Yes, they're always the super annoying ones, always, and I bet you big, awesome companies like Rain Energy, whatever you give them, they're happy with I tell them every single time I go if you need me to reedit something or change something, I'm happy to do it.
Speaker 1:And they never say it right. It is rare I mean it's rare that I have to do any type of reedits for them, bro that's why I look and they just go great.
Speaker 2:They go great. Bigger companies is awesome. Like the smaller entrepreneurs. I get it Like you want a nitpick, but like we're also a business too. So like, don't really abuse us like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was working with a young girl recently. She's very, very talented, does a lot of cool things. I'm not going to say, obviously, who or what, but it became a situation where we had shot and then it's four and a half to five months later that she's finally getting to the edits and it's like I know you're busy, but I'm busy too. So now your project, I don't have to say it's not a priority for me anymore, but, like I have 10 other projects that are recent that I have to get done. So it's like every time she would hit me up, it's like just randomly hitting me up at like eight o'clock at night, nine o'clock at night hey, I was thinking about doing this, or hey, could we do this? And I go, yes, send me a song, so I don't have to look for a song. Send me a song that you like, because you didn't like the last two I picked out, and I will make sure that I edit to that. Okay, sends me the song a week later. Sends me the song, I edit to it. Senator, oh, it's not the right spot of the song, okay, so now we got to redo it. Oh, you know what I like. I think I like this song better.
Speaker 1:So I was like yo, I can't do this. I'm just letting you know, by the way, anybody else that you work with too, like any other creative that you work with. I said the way that you work. You seem like you have to learn how to edit and do everything yourself. Just letting you know, like that. And that's cool, that's okay, but you were trying to hire somebody. You have to give them the creative integrity to, like, handle things on their own, and if there's a big thing that you don't like about something that they did, you could change that. But there's little, monotonous, little things like oh, I like this better, I like that it just it wastes everybody's time. And then at some point you have to be like yo, I can't do this anymore, I have to charge you for a reedit, I gotta charge you for this. Like, this is not what the original scope was. And then they get nasty and they get angry and it's like hey, listen, best of luck.
Speaker 2:Do you kind of like filter through some of your potential clients? Because, like I feel like especially with editor and like creative, like you know the person that you would be filming it has to be kind of like a unit, like you have to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a man. Listen, it's a marriage and just like people, edit differently.
Speaker 2:They have different vibes like camera angles. I'm sure you know that. Like, yeah, when I was doing that stuff for other people, I was kind of selective on who I wanted to do it with.
Speaker 1:It's tough because at first any creative is going to want to just grab up as much business as humanly possible and it's and to this day it's still the same thing. Things are expensive out here right now. I'm very selective with people and companies that I work with and the values that I align with, but at the same time it's like rents do on the first. So sometimes you have to bite the bullet and do a little extra for clients. And you know I have clients sometimes that take advantage of time. They it was supposed to be XYZ, and this is our monthly deliverables. That's what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1:Well, it's like oh, we have a couple of extra shoots that we're trying to squeeze in, and sometimes you have to sit there and just go Okay, like you know, you grit your teeth a little bit and you get it done.
Speaker 1:But it's like yo, if your clients were doing this to you, you wouldn't like that. So at some point after a couple of months of doing that, it's like well, now we're not buying the bullet, now it's just expected that we're going to get taken advantage of. So now we have to have that flip switch. You have to go hey, it's harder now because it's you've allowed it to happen for X amount of months, whereas if you bit it in the ass right when it happened, you've been like hey, this is what we originally agreed upon for X amount of dollars a month. We have to, like, renegotiate this contract because you had me do two times the amount of work. So it becomes tough because it's if you said it in the beginning, things would have gotten squashed. But as a creative and somebody that's getting paid, you know you sometimes sit there and you're just fortunate that you have business.
Speaker 2:So it's like hey let's, but your time's worth money without question.
Speaker 1:But so there's a push and pull type of a scenario that happens with stuff like that and the, the amount that you're going to let people pull from you. You have to be the where's that point, because it's cool to take care of people that take care of you. So I don't mind doing a little extra for rain. I send them extra photos here and there. I send them extra reels every couple of months. I'm not, you know, the deliverables are X amount. I may go three or four more than what I'm supposed to deliver, not because I'm trying to kiss ass, but because they take care of me.
Speaker 2:I fucks with them. Yeah, I feel the same way with you know, the on the creative end, like chef Eric Levine, through 17 Main Street, has been a dude advocate since, like the first week I had the company. I will always go there and post that I'm there. You know, I love that guy.
Speaker 1:He's what I'm saying and you're not doing it because you feel like you have to. Oh, he's a good.
Speaker 2:He's a good dude, bro. He he fucks with me, I fuck with him. Same thing at Ryan at Chubbs meets bro, he's a great dude.
Speaker 1:I love Chubbs. He's supposed to come on the pod man. He's awesome. Yeah, he was supposed to come on the pod, he was. I know he was doing stuff with hummus fit for a while he was um, tony right, yeah, tony's a good dude. He was supplying them with. Tony's been on the podcast before he was he's in good shape, that guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's ready to translate an animal, um, but yeah, he was supplying them with meats and then I think just something happened. They just they cut the partnership. But I stayed in touch with Chubb and I still wanted to have him come through and just chop it up Ryan's awesome and the stuff that he does with his son Mason the wall.
Speaker 2:Have you seen it? I haven't no, dude, his son's a goalie and he's just. I keep trying to convince him to get him mic'd up Like while he's playing goalie. I think it would be so funny.
Speaker 1:You probably should.
Speaker 2:I know I keep Ryan mic up, Mason.
Speaker 1:Yo, we should have you and Ryan come through for a pod. We should do like taste tests with different seasonings and stuff. That'd be fun.
Speaker 2:No, you should come through the kitchen and let us cook you something.
Speaker 1:I'll do that. Hell yeah, I'll fucking eat any day.
Speaker 2:I'll bring the mics, we'll do everything man, oh, bring a Aaron, big fat loser too. I've been trying to get in touch with him for a while. I'll fucking bring Aaron Dude. I have a box of stuff waiting for him. Really, yeah, bro, he's awesome. Dude, oh dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah man, that's easy. Aaron's the shit man he would love to. Aaron's another good dude. Super big supporter of small business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:I mean inspirational with what he's done and he's just, he's a regular guy. That's the coolest part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, he seems like just a real good dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he really is, and it's just. That's the whole point. The whole point is just aligning yourself with these people supporting small business, but supporting people, more importantly, that you align with their values and mission statements. Yeah, you know, I'm not going to support companies that I don't fuck with. Yeah, I want to. You know, once I found your doing seasonings, I got no reason to buy from these other companies. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, but it's a little thing. I appreciate you bringing all these. I would have bought them.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're good dude. I just I want to. I'm just a dude trying to hook up dudes with other dudes. You know what I mean? Jeez.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, it's just, it's, it's, it's all, it's all good stuff. So obviously the dude, the big Lebowski I see on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, shout out to Dave Smalls, another good dude. He's the tattoo artist that put the dude on my leg. Did you see him? I haven't seen him. Now, bro, you haven't seen my tattoo? Let me see, bro. Look at this, dave, you're the man, bro.
Speaker 1:Seven hours.
Speaker 2:How awesome is that thing, bro? Right, so that was like a big joke. Everybody's like, oh, the dude like the big Lebowski. I'm like no, I'm the dude, he's just the other dude. Yeah, he's just the other dude.
Speaker 1:Pretended to play a dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so now the dude is kind of works for me. Now he's on my, on my leg in a dude's gourmet shirt, so that's awesome, yeah, so is that how that started?
Speaker 1:You just like you were just the dude, or is there a relationship like with with the big Lebowski?
Speaker 2:No relationship at all. It was a great movie. I was just always like, okay, we need to come up with a catchy name which is going to be funny for like you and your friends hanging out in the kitchen and I was just like dude, dude, dude. Why don't we just call the seasonings dudes? So it's like you hanging out with the dudes and then we can have like funny jokes like oh, a girl can be. Like, oh, I finally met a good dude. You know like yeah, but it's good.
Speaker 1:That's I saw your seasonings for the first time. The burger is really good. I'm trying to all of this before man, the, the. I think I saw your seasonings the first time at Empire Nutrition.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, oh, mike, mike's a good dude, both Mike's, both Mike's.
Speaker 1:I know Mike Adams and Mike Knapp, so I they own nunsies, right? Yeah, mike Knapp owns nunsie. I believe Mike Mike is a part of it.
Speaker 2:I've been trying to get down there Her the food's bomb.
Speaker 1:Delicious man, I gotta make that intro for you, hell yeah, so I went to high school with Micah Damquits. Okay, so yeah, so Mike Knapp is the one that's the primary owner of nunsies.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool, yo, so that one's got scotch bonded in it and it's also really low in sodium as well. The best jerks got what's scotch bond? What is that? One of the hottest peppers in the world, really, mike is not a lot in it, though. Am I gonna choke? No, I mean, if you sniff it you would, but don't sniff that, it's gonna come on the back end. Did you shake it? No, the Scotch Bonnet goes to the bottom. Shake the shit out of it. There's a very little bit in there, but it's really just for the aromas.
Speaker 1:All right, so when? Okay, so let's talk about formulation. So when you're when you started dudes, you started with the Kansas City rub and then what did it expand to? And and obviously you had a background in it because of the restaurants, yeah, how did it become like I need to make a lines for everything now and where did you figure like I'm gonna do this line, I'm gonna do a honey Chipotle, like how did it just that you wanted?
Speaker 2:them. So it was like a really good partnership. I have like 10 or 15 that I was working on and then Another good dude made an introduction an introduction to another good dude who happened to own Processing plant that does all this stuff, and it was all certified organic and everything in Long Island or ex is it in the States?
Speaker 2:Yes it's, it's in Pennsylvania, actually cool, but it's still all locally sourced, all great stuff. And we just kind of had a good partnership. He's like, hey, just so you know, like I see what you're doing with with your brand, like I have access to all this stuff and I can make yours for you, if we can kind of form a partnership. So we did that and now I have a whole bunch of different ones.
Speaker 1:So that took a lot of the manufacturing off of your yeah, it saved me a lot of time, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:So now, me and Rob, we're just mad cool. I love that guy, dude. Yeah, he's awesome, but he's been, he's done nothing but to help support the company. And if he makes like a couple hundred pounds, something is like, yo, you want to try some of this, I'm like, yeah, send it over, and we just have new ones. And now we? That's true, that's actually a Brazilian style fish seasoning called tremula, but it's yes. But it's yes, but it is way better on root vegetables, dude, way better. Don't tell anybody that that's a secret. You might have to. You might have to bleep my voice for that part.
Speaker 1:I have to bleep that out. Just make it so this way. It's just your, your face, like what? Yeah, was there an audio cutout?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's low in sodium too, so that's made to be mixed with a citrus and salt and it is ridiculous. So veggies though? Yes, that's what I use it for, but dude cheat code goes good on fish too, it was good, I have some salmon filets that I have to make, so I'll probably put that on no honey chip all day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely yeah, yeah oh, do you have a guide on your website to show, like, what pairs well with what? No, but I like a wine pair. Like a wine pair.
Speaker 2:So I do that, but I also kind of want to build a community where it's more interactive. So I would rather you just DM me and ask me these things, and I'm always like accessible. So that has Serrano chili in it, and that was a joke the dude you told you not to worry about. It happens to be for All vegetables shaped like you know what's so like if you think about it, though, but like there's a lot of vegetable shape like that. So it's kind of funny. There's a lot of phallic shaped vegetables. Yeah, bro, like carrots, turnips, eggplants, a lot of penis shaped foods, zucchinis, squash, like there's a lot, bro. We can probably we can probably keep going, but I don't want to know. You know obstacles. Oh wait, fruit, yeah, fruit, sweet baby Jesus. Sweet baby Jesus is fantastic dude the burger, sweet baby Jesus.
Speaker 1:So honey, chipotle is delicious.
Speaker 2:Poppy is an anchovy chili based steak and taco season in this one. So that's good for you, bro. It's low sodium, it's good for all your meal prep.
Speaker 1:I do a lot of sodium, though. Truthfully, I take a lot of sodium in. Yeah, I do. I do packs of element. It's a thousand milligrams of sodium each pack. I'll do a packs of element. I'll do not even Himalayan sea salt. I'll do Celtic sea salt on my food.
Speaker 2:I gotta. I'm not dissing on Celtic sea salt, but remind me next time I see you I have a better salt for you.
Speaker 1:Well, so can you tell me why you don't like Celtic sea salt?
Speaker 2:I just don't like it because I found the better salt. What does that mean? The salt that I have is from the Murray River of Australia and, from rumor has it, it's from like a dried riverbed. So all they do is dig it up and clean it and then they whack it down into these beautiful little crystals and it's considered a finishing salt that only has 190 milligrams of sodium.
Speaker 1:Well, that hits you on the back. Steak poppy bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hope you didn't do a lot of it. No, I did a little. So it has 190 milligrams of sodium instead of 390, which is like a third of the sodium, and it tracks more minerals. So it's one of the only salts that you can throw in cold water, shake up and take it as your minerals. It's awesome, dude, really. Yes, that over Celtic. When you see it, I should have brought it. I'm so pissed. When you see it, bro, you'll understand why. Okay, I believe you it's, and it's really good. If you guys bake, you can throw it on cookies. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1:I put I do, I put Celtic sea salt on everything. I put it on my yogurt. A little flakes on my yogurt, I put it on.
Speaker 2:I actually have a smoked version of that salt. That's good on yogurt really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh damn, we're just chemistry cooking it up in the kitchen.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm just happy to be here, man. It's so important to eat healthy dude Like and, yeah, but we're all guilty of going to talk about two in the morning, but whatever, man.
Speaker 1:Okay, so, truthfully, I don't know the last time that I've had fast food like that. I don't. I don't remember the year, like how many years it's been. That's how long it's been really.
Speaker 2:No. So if you so, what's fast food? Do you like chipotle?
Speaker 1:I wouldn't consider that fast food. I mean it is fast food, but I would. I would consider they use better ingredients, right? Wouldn't you say yeah so you know, especially when a bowl is 20 hours from the ridiculous. But I would you know, that's just really. When I go to chipotle I just get double chicken and rice.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 1:You don't do any of the veggies double veggie. I do the double fajita veggie. That's it I. I love their. Uh, Cilantro lime crema. I hate cilantro really one seasoning.
Speaker 2:I hope it tastes like soap doesn't taste like soap.
Speaker 1:I get asked that all the time. It doesn't taste like soap, it just tastes like, but not even good. But so do you not? Like pico de gallo or guacamole I like guacamole and I like pico de gallo. I just don't like cilantro when it's overpowering. It gives me like a weird Medley tinge in my mouth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't like it. You know, when chipotle used to go heavy on the cilantro and the white rice, I used to have to ask for white rice from the back.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'd say, hey, can I get the plain white rice in the back? They'd be like what? And then the dudes that were veterans, they'd be like, oh no, no, we know. Yeah, bring that, bring the tray out. And then everyone behind me be like, well, you can get that shit, I go. Yeah, man, see your menu but it's just white rice.
Speaker 2:They did that cauliflower rice for a what? For a little bit. Do they still do it? No, not that. I think that was a fail. Man, it was not good. Yeah, I smell like farts.
Speaker 1:As most broccolis and cauliflower's do. Light up my. You know, it's lighten up my fridge right now. Kimchi, kimchi is lighting my fridge.
Speaker 2:I do too.
Speaker 1:I put it right in there good probiotics. We're talking about gut health. You ever do kimchi and eggs? I've done kimchi and eggs, I just mostly. So I don't know if you know juji moofu. Yes, so I'm very friendly with juji Bro, he's jacked. Yeah, he's been on my pie. Do you do a cheap food? Uh, I think so. I. I'm never around him like that. He's invited me down to his, his compound.
Speaker 2:We need to go and film a cheat meal with him.
Speaker 1:Dude, he's he, my man eats. I know he's shredded right now too. Um he, uh, what was that? Where is that going?
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, no, no, you're good, you're good. Juji Me food. You went down and he was on the pod and no, before that, that's okay, don't worry about oh can we roll tape. What can we roll tape? No, oh, all right, we keep it natural. Baby, oh, I feel, oh, man, I shouldn't cut you off.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's good. I asked you if you do, juji, I know it was going into, um, it was going into, uh, the foods and whatnot. I don't know my brains, my brain runs a million miles on that.
Speaker 2:So it's like maybe he's very regimented also about how he eats.
Speaker 1:I remember. No, that's okay. Okay, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2:What are your thoughts on liver king?
Speaker 1:Uh, Interesting. I mean I find it kind of nuts that people didn't think that he was on gear. I mean it's clear as day.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, to some people they thought he was actually natural and just supplementing with organs. I mean, I don't know. I think that that does add a certain level of Shreddiness to someone's physique and leanness, because you're getting all the excuse me, you're getting all the process out of, out of everything that you're eating and that definitely Titans you up and it makes you hold less water. But I mean that big, that round, that shredded.
Speaker 2:Not got the blood cut. You can tell it's just like that giant ab right here. That's from testosterone.
Speaker 1:Uh, I don't know. It's not from test I. A lot of bodybuilders get it. They get like that bubblegut because from my knowledge, they shoot Growth directly into the stomach and it creates the organs to stimulate and grow as well.
Speaker 2:That unhealthy like almost looks like the. That's what I've heard.
Speaker 1:That one it could be wrong, but that's what I've heard from bodybuilders. Oh all right yeah sometimes when they inject it directly into their stomach. That that's what it creates the organs to grow as well, and that's what keeps, creates more of that distention.
Speaker 2:Oh, all right. Well, you probably know better than me. So yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:but I never took anything, so I I know just as much as I've heard, so I could be wrong if y'all y'all want to fact check me. I might be wrong, I don't know, but yeah, I found that very interesting. And then he had something wrong with his eye recently too that I saw in passing. I try not to keep up with any of these people. It's just too, it's just too much to keep up with these, with these influencers and whatnot.
Speaker 1:I try to just focus on people that I know. Like before I did jujitsu, I focus on bodybuilders, but now that I'm in jujitsu, I'm focusing on a lot more of the fighters that go to sarah's. So it's like I'm meeting all of them and I'm like, oh shit, you got to fight in a couple months. Sick, like you start supporting these people even though their big names like um, algemene, sterling and steamroller shout out to steamroller. You know all these guys that fight in the UFC To everybody else that they're watching it and these there are people that are stars, but to me it's like, oh, these people that train at the gym, it's cool. So that's why I try to like associate with local dope people.
Speaker 2:You know that's cool, dude. I tried to do the same thing, like I mean, if you're putting out a good product, I'm just I'm gonna fuck with you. You know, that's it. Like I'm down for, like to have the best of everything. That's why I like I don't know man, I'm just like selective of who I spend my time with and my money with and my, my, my business with you have to be there's like I don't know man. I guess everything, everything's like a learning experience, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have to. You have to be, because otherwise there's a lot of energy suckers out there and they'll just continue to just drive you down. You're like, oh my god, I gotta get away from this fucking person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man it's just you.
Speaker 1:You know there's two. There's too many of that. There's too many of the negative side of people is not a lot of positive people.
Speaker 2:I've been really uh cutting a lot of people out.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:It's and I you feel so good after buddy of mine that haven't spoken to.
Speaker 1:We were best friends in high school Buddy of mine haven't spoken to since it'll be a year next month. God father to his child like I love him, but he's just in a bad situation that he won't, he won't allow himself to get away from. Then he constantly allowed it to just hinder himself, hinder his friendships, hinder everything. I can't stick around for it. So you know, in, in, in, uh, in layman's term, pick your partners accordingly, gentlemen and ladies, please. Yeah, you know, just, that's, that's a, that's a commitment, especially when you have children with them. So, so, what are you single? I'm single man. I've been single since 2018.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, actually probably me around the same yeah dude, I've been singles since 2018.
Speaker 1:Broke up. My girlfriend then Just weren't like seeing eye to eye on things and yeah, then cove it and then everything like that. And I think just the longer I was having this conversation recently with my mom and a friend of mine, the longer that I stay single, the longer that I just, the more times that I go out on dates and I'm just disappointed because the conversation isn't there. The people are lackluster, you know just, maybe they're just there for a free meal the more you become jaded to the situation and you just don't want to do it and you're content with just chilling at the house with the dog and chilling in this because it's less drama, yeah, and it's less problems, but then you're not putting yourself out there and then you're just gonna want to staying in the cycle that you're in of just not having somebody. So it's like. It's like at what point do you go? Well, I'd like to have somebody because I would, but I just I'm so tired.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm not willing to sacrifice like my mindset and my like Freedom. You know, like think about that. Like you don't want to form a partnership with somebody that, like you know it just not right. You know, like you got to be selective of who you're just gonna spend the rest of your life with and start a family with. Like if I know that the girl that I'm Potentially looking for, uh, I didn't want her to be like my best friend. You know, because, like, when shit hits the fan, like I want to go to war with my best friend, I don't want to go to war with, like Somebody that I'd in a relationship with. That's how I look at it. It's like you have to like be with your best friend for things to work out, especially nowadays with the social media. Like, oh, it's just like it's everything so weird since covid bro, everything is so weird. The people are weird, everything.
Speaker 1:I think we're in like an alternate universe. I really do. I really think that, like there's this, there's this theory that the CERN haydron collider, the, the, the particle collider At CERN switzerland, that once they turn that thing on in 2012, that things have been very different and I really feel like it's. Things have been very different since covid yeah, very different. I don't know if it's because we all caught covid, whether you noticed it or not, and that really changed perception and whatever they fuck they manufactured, but I've noticed that things are just not the same. And it's not that it's not the same because, like, things aren't happy and fluffy and this, and that just things feel off. Yeah, everything feels off. Everything feels like feels off.
Speaker 2:My priorities are different, like I Just even day-to-day interactions with like things that are supposed to be normal. Yeah, there's just people like aren't getting it anymore and maybe it's because people don't have enough like access to like People to talk to. And when everybody was in covid they were just kind of like hermits and they were looking at their phone and they don't know how to do like normal social cues like. Yeah, that's like a big thing. I realize people don't understand social cues anymore. It's, it's, it's we, it's. So we're wearing the toilet zone.
Speaker 1:We, I'm telling you, we are, we are. There's some things off, some things off and I can't put my finger on what exactly it is, but it's just to to reaffirm your point you conspiracy theorist? Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm. I'm a conspiracy theorist because and with certain things, because at some point I can't believe that there's that many coincidences. You know, I'm saying, yeah, like at some point you have to sit there and just go. Yeah, I'm interested. I want to hear what this object, this potentially objective Viewpoint is that challenges what I've always thought was normal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what are your thoughts on, like AI?
Speaker 1:I believe that it's supposed to Take us all out, not necessarily like terminator style, but I believe it's supposed to create a workforce that is all artificial intelligence in every area, because theoretically, it'll take over every area, not just video creators, not just mortgages and all this stuff. It's coming for every industry, and the scary thing is that people just go, oh yeah, it's cool. It's cool it's not, though, because you don't understand that right now it's small, but even in its small infancy stage, it's big to be able to have things formulated for you in seconds, and all of these different things that would normally take days for somebody to do, it does it in a minute. Crazy. That's great for the convenience of speed, but are we trading speed for livelihood of everybody in every industry? That's scary man.
Speaker 2:Yes, so as a tool to help workflows it's cool, like if you need a script for a commercial and you throw it in chat, gbt or something like that, that's cool, used it plenty. But it's like there's other things like AI and like electric cars. I don't want I had that. The two of them together scares the shit out of me.
Speaker 1:Well, now the government wants full kill switches put in every single car manufactured I forget from what date passed, but they want kill switches to be able to just kill your car at any given point. Bro, fuck that man, nope.
Speaker 2:Would you ever get an electric?
Speaker 1:car, you know what. So I almost got one, I almost got the Maki Mustang, okay, and I just was like, no, I'm good man, it just doesn't line up with what I want, what my needs are. Truthfully, I want to get rid of my BMW. I've said it a million times I want to get rid of my BMW and I want to get a four runner. I want the four runner or a Tundra, because I know that it'll last 900,000 miles and I can just drive and drive and drive and if shit hits the fan, I can dip, hopefully, and get off the island, dip, and then just drive into the wilderness and be good.
Speaker 2:The guy from the terminal list has one, the sick four runner, an older one. Yep, that's right. Great, great flick. Haven't seen it. Haven't seen it. Termal list of show. No, Dude, you have to Amazon Prime. Yeah, Dude, you're a conspiracy guy. You're into it, bro. What's it called Terminal list with Chris Pratt? It was amazing. And Tyler Kish oh my God, I love that guy. Hollywood slept on Tyler Kish for the longest time. He's the best.
Speaker 1:Hollywood slept on a lot. Hollywood's getting phased out by AI before anybody else. They're gonna start. There's already been lawsuits with them using AI voice of regular actors. But because, from what I understand and I know very little on the situation because they signed over the ability to use them in like releases and everything like that, they basically just have almost like this they have them speaking on a million different movies and because they have this, it will create an endless ability to use their voice to say anything.
Speaker 2:See, I feel like that's all has to be written out in the contract, right, like you have my likeness, like, let's say, Maybe, but we don't know what those contracts say. Yeah, I guess you're right.
Speaker 1:We also don't know who's blood they're drinking behind the scenes in that fucking industry.
Speaker 2:So you know I don't wanna speak on that, because I just don't wanna get caught up in that.
Speaker 1:That's a scary place, bro. It's cool man, it's not even. It's just. You know that there's these backhand, backdoor things that they do, and it's just, it's an industry. So I'm not shocked that they're able to just use their identities and use whatever they want, whenever they want, because you're just pieces of the chessboard to these large corporations and large people. You're a part of their puzzle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's it. So it's Just like Taylor Swift in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, travis Kellogg, I'm tired of fucking seeing them. I stopped watching football because I just couldn't deal with it anymore. I don't care who he's banging, I don't wanna see her face over the next seconds, but you know what's?
Speaker 2:funny. Everybody's like oh my god, dads and daughters are watching football together. But guess what? Guys like me and you that love football, I don't wanna watch that I don't watch that shit.
Speaker 1:I don't wanna see this shit. Stop commercializing football, just play the fucking game.
Speaker 2:That's the social media mentality. They want more people watching the product, more people's eyes on it, but no, but at the sacrifice of what? Actual people that love the sport? Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:But then next season, you know, oh, they'll break up and we won't have to hear about it ever again. But you know, it's just ridiculous. I don't wanna see this shit. I don't care who he's banging, I don't need to see her in a box and remind myself that she's a billionaire and nothing has to worry her. So like I don't wanna have to see this shit Play football, do your thing, we're good. I don't need to see who your love life is.
Speaker 2:You show up to a red carpet with her, take a picture. It's oh cool, that's cool. You're a couple, I get it, but like it's just too much.
Speaker 1:It's too much, it's too much, but they just ram all that shit down your throat and it's exhausting and they have to commercialize everything, especially at that level, and I've lost a lot of interest in that world. I used to wanna shoot Hollywood movies. That's what I wanted to do. I wanted to be on movie sets, I wanted to be like Christopher Nolan, I wanted to shoot shit like that. But then you start seeing the people that you're surrounded by and the industry as a whole and you hear about all these different things and you're just like I'm good on it, man, my own peaceful serenity, staying away, that's cool with me. And then you look at, well, how many DPs actually make it to the top, like how many become the Christopher Nolans? How many become the Roger Deakins, like the real DPs that everybody wants to work with? It's a very far and few between, because the industry is so saturated. You hear the millions of people that just graduate film school and are busing tables out in LA. I'm good on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but right now you're working for yourself. You have clients coming in and out what I'm saying, I'd rather do my own thing.
Speaker 1:That's why, at the same time, I love that I have all of my retainer clients. I'm very fortunate for all of them, because it allows me to make more money than I'd make when I was traveling, but stay local. It's cool to travel, but once again, at what cost? I'm not actually getting to see a lot of things I'm actually able to now be with the dog, keep my fitness routine in the mix, be in the studio do podcasts.
Speaker 2:You're a slave in Hollywood, bro. You're gonna be working how many hour days? You're never gonna be able to go to the gym Never, and God forbid. You have one bad experience with one big end company, bro. That's it. You're finished, bro Blackball, and that's it. You have one bad experience with one customer. Okay, you're not my client anymore. Okay, I'll move on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you try to rectify things and if they don't want to rectify, then it's like okay.
Speaker 2:There's plenty of other people that need content. I'm sorry about that, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's. I don't know, it's just figuring out what you want. The more that I realize things, the more I'm giving myself. I've said this a couple of times I'm giving myself the next two to four years to decide if I'm staying in Long Island. Where do you wanna go? I would love to go to Texas. To be honest with you, bro, I love Texas. I love Montana. My friend out, I would love to do Montana, but it just seems too remote for me. I like that, but work I have to be able to make money.
Speaker 2:Bozeman, you would love Bozeman. Yeah yeah, my friend Allison Fasano, she's also a big dude supporter. Awesome, she was on CHOP, she won a couple of times. She's great dude. She's so cool, she's out in Montana. She opened up a speakeasy called Establish in 1864, I think the year that Bozeman was established as a, as a as a Cool, as the capital. Okay, dude, and it's awesome. The food there is sick, bro, I'm telling you. If you ever out there.
Speaker 1:Have you got out there?
Speaker 2:I went out there when she first went to Bozeman because we were gonna open up a restaurant together in Livingston and we looked at this place called Mustangs and just things for dudes really started taking off and I was like I really can't move the whole company across the country right now. I was like, but if you want to do this, I back you, I support you, let's do it. So she waited and she linked up with a group of restaurants that had like five or six different restaurants. She worked her way to the top and then I think that they're involved in this one a little bit, or she might be on her own, but she's killing it, bro. I'm so happy for her.
Speaker 1:What are the vibes out like there? Like for for younger people.
Speaker 2:Dude, everybody is so friendly and so nice and everybody dresses cool and nobody's got it.
Speaker 1:Nobody's a dick man and a wife out there, though that's my thing. Am I gonna find a good girl? I mean, it's just gonna be a bunch of old people that just are in the town.
Speaker 2:I kind of feel like in Bozeman you'd be better Livingston, I think, like everybody knows each other. It's a smaller town but yeah, you'll find the wife and it's like I think there's like a, it's a big bachelorette community now I think I think it's like the new Austin Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh Jesus, we went down there, you want to take a trip? Yes, bro, we'd love to go down there.
Speaker 2:I might never come back bro.
Speaker 1:Let's do it. Let's do a a dudes across the country, huge retreat. Yeah, we'll stop at. We'll stop at all the restaurants on the way out there.
Speaker 2:Why not? We'll stop at all the farms and cook up some bison and shit.
Speaker 1:Dude Just saying Do like the Andrew Zimmerman when he's outside cooking and the skillet.
Speaker 2:Dude, I would love to do more catch and cooks, or kill and cooks, like you know that stuff.
Speaker 1:I want to hunt. Would you be interested in going hunting Absolutely when I don't know yet? I want to hunt. I'm finalizing my pistol license next week.
Speaker 2:I just got mine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm finalizing my pistol license next week. Shouts of Suffolk County.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm finalizing that. And then I already I have a. I just bought a Henry Allweather Great gun. Yeah, henry Allweather, and it's a 44 Magnum. Woo, yeah, thing is gangsta. Oh, have you shot it up? Yeah, what does it feel like? It feels like God, nice. Feels like God cradled between my arm and my shoulder. It's just, it's unbelievable man, it's. I was assigned between the 357, the 44, the 45, the 3030 and the 4770 government round, which that's like the elephant round, yeah dude.
Speaker 1:And it's so expensive for round size, I'm not, I don't need that. So then I was the side between the 44, the 3030. And I said you know what? 44, it's a nice comb defense. If you need it, you can use hollow points in it, or you could use a regular, regular bullets just to hunt, or you know, target practice. And I put about 75 rounds through it the next day after I bought it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I think it's fucking gold. Nice, you have any optics on it, or no?
Speaker 1:Nothing yet it's just got a. It's just got a ghost sight on it like a little ring Nice, it's nice man.
Speaker 2:So for that I would like recommend, like, some kind of closed emitter, okay, so, something you can swap back and forth to your pistol, if you wanted to, maybe like a hollow sun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like the red dot hollow sun. Yeah, I forgot to do that, cause I'm not really going to be putting it 200 yards. Yeah, dude, you don't need to do that. No, I mean, you know, maybe, maybe 50 hollow suns.
Speaker 2:Great Swamp Fox makes some good stuff. I forgot that. I think I forgot. The stroger makes a really nice one. It's a little expensive though.
Speaker 1:So my plan right now is, once I get approved for the pistol license, I'm going to buy a Glock for a daily, for just a Glock 43 X that I want, just for a daily. I was going to do SIG.
Speaker 2:Do a SIG.
Speaker 1:I'm just deciding between the two. Still, I may go up if you want to take a trip up to the SIG Academy. I want to go to SIG Sauer Academy and go do the training up there.
Speaker 2:So friends of mine that have a cop podcast called Rusty Cuffs went to the SIG Academy and they loved it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So if you want to take a trip up there, that'd be fun, man, we could probably find a couple of spots.
Speaker 2:So I built a SIG 365, like just from the FCU up, joe, from the, from the lower, no, from the FCU. It's just something that you drop into into the grip module. Oh, okay, and it's kind of like big kid Legos, bro. You can like pick like fluted barrels, ported barrels. It's really cool, bro. So if you want, before you make your decision on, Well, so I want to get two.
Speaker 1:I want to get just the gun that I'm going to have, just regular, that's like, that's my TART, my range, my, my carry, like all that stuff just to have. And then the day that I get my license approved, I'm ordering a staccato. I'm going to order a custom staccato. I'm deciding between the CS or the or the P. Yeah, you know, the P is obviously going to be bigger. That's fine to carry in the winter, but you know, when you have hoodies and shit. But like, I'll tell you what man that's CS, that's staccato.
Speaker 1:I've shot it before it's 150 day lead time. So my thought process is I get approved for it in the next month or so. It'll be ready for my birthday in August. Yeah, that's awesome. So just get shipping out like, oh man, just fucking amped up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, that's that's. I can't say that's a great gun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we'll see. It's funny I started with a shotgun, then it's a lever action, now it's a pistol, now it's two pistols. That's like this is how it starts. And he's just like okay, now I need a gun, now I need the big Liberty safe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like I have the one that is in my house and that's about it, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm becoming a fanatic with that. I just love it. It's so much fun. It's like you know, go out to the range, you shoot, you hang out. It's like, yeah, it's just different, man, I want to do different shit. I'm so tired of doing the same shit over and over again.
Speaker 2:Dude. It's also great stress relief for like for real dude, you put like, you put like, you run through mags like John Wick at a target, you just feel great. Doesn't even matter if you're hitting it Well, just running through a mag, you just feel great.
Speaker 1:So I gotta go visit my buddy in Arizona. Soon I gotta go visit my other buddy in Austin again. So those are gonna be two vacations. I may hit Hawaii again just to like decompress and just you ever mess around with the South.
Speaker 2:I mean South Shore, west Coast, like California. I hate Cali bro.
Speaker 1:Why Every time I've been out there I just fucking hate it. It's just, it just doesn't do Dirty, yeah, but I'm in LA, I'm in LA, so LA's a shit hole man. Monterey was very pretty. Monterey was cool. When I was up North for a Sony event that was dope. I'd like to go to San Diego because I heard San Diego is really great, but then I also heard there's a huge homeless issue in San Diego now. It's always been there, but now it's.
Speaker 2:I thought Venice Beach was really bad.
Speaker 1:Venice Beach is disgusting. I mean no offense to the homeless people, but it is gross, dude, disgusting. And the issue is these states that allow these people to just live there and just they don't do anything about it. It just continues to build and grow and then now they have encampments and you're giving them self. It's the same way when someone's a junkie and somebody is an addict. Instead of just giving them clean needles, why don't we address the root cause and try to help them and just get them out of their addiction, as opposed to just like pacifying it and being like well, we don't want you to get an infection, so here's clean needles, or here's a, but keep slamming that shit into your arm.
Speaker 1:Here's a facility that you can do it, and God forbid that you overdose, cause there's a high chance that you will We'll revive you right here and now. It's like, nah, man, we gotta help people. We gotta just like get to a point of like what is going to be the way that we address the issue, instead of just here's a bandaid like oh and then the. It just keeps growing and growing and growing. So I found that the homeless situation out in LA has, whenever I'm out there, has been like that.
Speaker 1:I had an apartment it was an Airbnb in downtown LA that we stayed at and I've mentioned this a few times it was literally like Grand Theft Auto outside. I'm not even joking, I believe it. It all night. You're hearing gunshots, you're hearing people getting stabbed, you're hearing all kinds of shit and anybody that lives out there that says, oh, you're wrong. I'm like dude. I was there for a week and that's all I heard outside the windows and we were in a nice. There was a fucking sushi spot that was at least 200 a plate, around the corner, like farmer's markets. We were not in a bad, bad area.
Speaker 1:We were like bougie and it was dude. We woke up, we walked outside. Dude was laying on the halfway on the entrance of the building and on the curb with a I'm talking huge knife in his hands, passed out, and I was just like whoa, that is fucking crazy.
Speaker 2:We're not in Kansas anymore. Yeah, we're not.
Speaker 1:We're not in Long Island anymore. So you know, is it beautiful? Does it have amazing beautiful parts? Without question, I'm sure. I think of golf, I think of Pebble Beach, I think of the wineries and in and out burger. And now it's always gorgeous. Every time you see that red and white, that scheme, you're just like oh man, do you notice?
Speaker 2:in California, though, even the girls that work at fast food restaurants are all beautiful. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's the sunshine, the sunshine.
Speaker 1:You get all the gremlins in New York because everyone's like hiding for six months. They come out and they go the sun the sun.
Speaker 2:Oh, I call winter Han Solo season because everybody's got those high-ug boots and the leggings.
Speaker 1:Always look like they're going on a mission yeah right, and then the vests. Oh my God, yep, they wear the vests. Yeah, so you know, speaking of different states, I'd love to visit Montana. I think I never wanted to move to Arizona, but I'm thinking Arizona might be a nice. You know, I'm trying to just figure out. Well, what part of Texas would you go to? Austin, I'd have to be.
Speaker 2:Austin, I'd have to be Austin.
Speaker 1:I've heard too many negatives about the other areas of Texas.
Speaker 2:I hated Houston.
Speaker 1:I heard Houston's not great. I hated Houston. Dallas. I've heard mixed reviews about super north of Dallas, like Prosper Texas. It's super low-key. Right now they're building like a really nice community. The houses are gorgeous for like 20 bucks, I mean it's just, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1:But once again, where this podcast doesn't net me revenue yet so, it's like I have to be able to connect with businesses and shoot for businesses and companies and this and that. So I can't, I don't have the ability to go remote where I don't have access to all that, and then listen, I need the facilities for the dog, for the medical emergencies and I need all these things, so I have to go somewhere that's a little bit more densely populated. So you start thinking about it. Okay, well, austin, fort Lauderdale, miami, if you're doing Florida, it's just too humid, I think, for me. For Florida, I have my friends that live in-.
Speaker 1:Definitely for your dog. You would hate it. Oh, he fucking hates it. He hates the summer, this weather. He wants to be out here.
Speaker 2:What about, like, the Carolinas are beautiful.
Speaker 1:My buddy's been begging me to move to North Carolina. Begging me, I don't know. I went down there. I'm gonna go down there again for a wedding later this year. His wedding, nashville's beautiful Nashville's cool, but I don't drink anymore. I stopped drinking almost a year ago, oh nice. So it's like it doesn't Personal reasons, or you just no, just personal reasons. I never had a problem, I just. I always felt hazy the next day. So I'm like, why don't I just stop?
Speaker 2:I say that alcohol is the fun police for the next day, like Rob's all the fun for the next day. It does.
Speaker 1:I don't know what's in the moment, but that's your body, just that's your well. First of all, it's your brain being poisoned. That's really what the feeling of intoxication is, and the slow motion and this, and that it's your inhibitions and all this, like your ability to just let loose, and this, and that I went to my first wedding stone cold, sober, this year, last year, and it's amazing how fast weddings go by when you're drunk versus when you're sober. You're horrible. You're like, wow, this wedding is long.
Speaker 2:But how much fun is it to people watch when you're sober? Oh, so much fun, yeah, so much fun, yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know truth? I've never been. I never had an alcohol problem. Even in college I stopped drinking cause I was bodybuilding. I've always been like whatever about alcohol. It never really mattered to me. I never needed to go to the city every weekend like a bunch of my friends and get smashed and go to concerts and stuff. I just I couldn't do it. But I did like having a little neat whiskey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wasn't a fan of like getting ever like sloppy sloppy, but I've gotten sloppy sloppy before but like I've been there too, now that I'm like older it's just like oh man, I really don't need to do that anymore. You know, when COVID first hit, I was like you know what? I'm gonna stop drinking and I'll start drinking when the restaurant's open again. I made it 94 days and then my dad's best friend came to the house with a bottle in 1942. Yeah, knew it was my favorite tequila and didn't know that I wasn't drinking and I was like fuck it, I'm just gonna have some of this. It's over, dude. I mean, I felt like they were gonna be closed for like two weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 1:Now, me and my buddies were playing Call of Duty when we were playing.
Speaker 2:Oh bro, a game of tag, let's run.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I'm down. I've been playing Helldiver's, though. What's Helldiver's? Oh, I'll show you after this.
Speaker 2:Wait, is it a different game? It's PS5. Oh, I have Xbox.
Speaker 1:Do you have a PC or you play on Xbox?
Speaker 2:I play on Xbox.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I was playing on Xbox. Now I've gotten so deep into PlayStation that I've been, I've converted into-.
Speaker 2:I can tell you're a Sony boy.
Speaker 1:I love Sony, but I was an Xbox guy my whole life and then I just bought a PS5 and I've just been loving the PS5, honestly. And Helldiver's Is it Crossplay? Helldiver's is Crossplay, but they don't have it on Xbox. They have it on PC.
Speaker 2:Oh, all right. So it's either buy an Xbox Buy.
Speaker 1:PlayStation or a computer. All right so, everyone, you gotta buy more of his seasoning so he can play Helldiver's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come on, man, I love it when you call me steak poppy.
Speaker 1:It does, he does, and I love it too. So we were playing Call of Duty, we were playing Xbox nonstop and just drinking all day. I mean it was, I was drinking a ton of that peanut butter whiskey.
Speaker 2:Oh bro, that's great on the way down, but it's not good on the way out.
Speaker 1:No, it's not good on the way out. No, no, yeah, drinking it just nonstop. What's it called?
Speaker 2:I don't know, but I used to have the bottle of it in the freezer.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's oh dude, it's like drinking syrup. Yeah, it's drinking fucking syrup.
Speaker 2:And it's like it's really easy to just do this with it. What is it called? I know the bottle's circular and, yeah, white label.
Speaker 1:Gonna drive me nuts. Hold on, please hold.
Speaker 2:Speaking of like, you notice lately that everybody has like a celebrity. There's like a celebrity that has like a Screwball.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, why did I realize that? Cause I spit all over my mic.
Speaker 2:Like every celebrity, has an alcohol company. Now, yeah, have you. You haven't tried any of them, so you definitely never try. Well, when would you try?
Speaker 1:No, I tried George Clooney's. Uh, cosmigas, delicious it was, and then he sold it and it's been different.
Speaker 2:It has. Yeah, did you ever try Kendall Jenner's A18? No, horrible.
Speaker 1:I will not support anything that a Kardashian does, and it's she's a Jenner Same tribe roughly.
Speaker 2:Listen, listen. If I had to be stuck on a desert island with anybody in that family, it would be her. She's the one that stays out of the most trouble I drown myself in the shallow water. Okay, I guess you're right, but she stays out of trouble. Consider the whole family.
Speaker 1:it's like media wars, or that's what they want you to believe.
Speaker 2:I guess you're right, she's probably the worst one.
Speaker 1:Or they ostracize her, they get rid of her cause they can't handle her all day.
Speaker 2:they're just like Well that's what they did to Rob right, I loved Rob.
Speaker 1:He was the only reason I ever watched the show like.
Speaker 2:I was younger.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, Scott Rob is the brother of my baby. Yeah, yeah, Rob sucks. Scott's great Scott, yeah, Scott's great Scott was awesome. So, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I try not to. I'll tell you. And, as a small business owner, it bothers me when I see 100 followers that I follow and that they follow me people that I know in real life, that they just eat up and like all the Kardashian shit, all the famous Pekanya.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All the famous people, but they won't throw a like your way or a share your way.
Speaker 2:Yo Kanye doesn't give a shit that you're rocking Yeezys. Okay, he doesn't care Like.
Speaker 1:Actually, he becomes more and more or less caring the more you buy it. He would care more if he had nobody buying his shit.
Speaker 2:Spend $350 on Yeezys, or spend $49 building a bundle of dude's gourmet. Support a small business and you'll eat healthy.
Speaker 1:Eat, healthy and it's delicious. Yeah, I'm gonna hit that steak poppy again, bro, hit it again, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2:Dude honey Chipotle, I'm convinced you can eat raw too, bro. We've been putting that on everything for my nieces and nephews and they eat everything. And that's like kind of what's happening now, because when I'm at farmer's markets, like I had to be like loud and kind of obnoxious to get people to come over and try. You got the go pro in the background too. Yeah, I do. I do have like a really funny content, yeah, but it is what it is man Like. So I was constantly yelling at people like, hey, flip flops, come over here, you like to eat food? Like getting them over here, and then I'd let them try some of it. And then they kind of realized there was no additives, no fillers, no cakeing agents. That's what they're doing. And then now their kids all love it. So it's like I have repeat customers. You know the company's only five years old. We're doing great. It's amazing. It's amazing, I love that it was awesome.
Speaker 1:I want some of the honey Chipotle. I'm eating the honey Chipotle.
Speaker 2:We have people that come to the farmer's market and they're like I need four honey Chipotle's because I do a deal for 30 and cash. So they're like all right, bro, fire, right, it's so good, do you?
Speaker 1:eat bacon. I used to. I will eat bacon from. It's so good. Okay, so I eat bacon from a butcher where I know that the pig is like actually clean.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you know me and I'm going to give you a white skin pork belly and it's going to be bacon. I turned it into bacon Awesome, with honey Chipotle. Dude, we cured it in the honey Chipotle so you don't have to season it. So good, awesome.
Speaker 1:It's so good. Yeah, there was a lot of art behind the scene, videos that came out of slaughterhouses and then feeding the pigs Plastic no that I would, that I mean it's fucked up, but that I wouldn't really give too much of too much about. Like care about they're feeding them the garbage from the actual plant, the plastics and everything like that. And then you start talking about like micro plastics and all the shit that's in our food sources. Well, you're feeding the fucking animal garbage. What do you think? You think that it's not going to get to us? Yeah, but they don't care. So that's the problem. So that's why I try to support the companies that are doing it right Sustainability and stuff like that, not just because they say it on a label, but because I know that they do, because they document what all this it is. You know, you, with keeping the spices organic and real and natural. That's important, man, that's important shit.
Speaker 2:Dude, it's like big to me, like once you lose your word, like that's it, man. Like you know flavor God. I hate to say it again, but he sold to a bigger company, I believe Shocker, and from what I heard, his product was really good until it really wasn't anymore. So like I refuse to do that, I don't want to.
Speaker 1:So what so now what happens? You sell the company and then you know I would say you have to stay on board in some, some capacity and have some of the final say is of just the ingredients, because that's got to be the most important thing. If it was me, I'd be like yo, I'm cool to sell because this is a crazy deal on this at XYZ, but like we need to make sure that we're continually using high quality ingredients.
Speaker 2:Okay. So that's when, like the angel and the devil, comes into play. Man Like, okay, you have to make a. You have to make a conscious decision for your family. At that point, if that deal is good enough for you to just be a walk away, like they're giving you a check with X amount of let's say it's two billion for the dudes I'm out. You can have it. Two billion, that's it for and I, and that's I'm out. Two billion With a B yeah.
Speaker 1:Or they'll give you one billion, but you get to stay on and make sure that they're doing everything the right way that you're. You're just overseeing.
Speaker 2:Two billion. I can retire everybody that I care about and make multiple businesses. So I'm good, bro, two billion, you can have it. I'm out. So I'll say two million, two million right now, and then I have to walk away, or am I still on board? Walk away, no, okay, no, but yeah, like that makes me sound like a dick, but whatever.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't, because everybody I can't meet. People buy Lotto tickets because they think they're going to be the winner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, so I so like my. My reputation of my word is worth more than two million. Let's put it that way. Yes, I would like to know that the the product is going to be as good as it is now, at least for the next couple of years, you know.
Speaker 1:and then stuff, man, because even on the apple cider vinegar, apple cider vinegar, braggs they sold. Now they're not using the same Apple quality. Yeah, it's gone down now, okay, yeah, so you see me have with Sriracha, right? Yeah, everyone's looking, everyone's looking for the original labels. Now, yep, see yo, you can't sell out, it can't sell out. Just keep it going, man, dude's dudes forever dude, dude.
Speaker 2:I want to be dudes forever. But you know like I can't be like the six year old dude. Hopefully my, now you gotta be a 60 year old. Hopefully my nephew will learn how to cook you gotta pass down to a son or something.
Speaker 1:I'm single girls.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you want to. You know that's not true. I'm talking to a very nice girl right now.
Speaker 1:Sorry.
Speaker 2:Dudeettes. Yeah, don't hit him up yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll let you know. And what happens? Yeah, I'll let you know if this, if this movie's going to have a sequel. Yeah, I think we covered most of this, um, because I just I jot down certain things here and there. I just I love you at the farmers markers.
Speaker 2:Dude. I mean, it's just funny, bro, when you're walking by and, like you know, everybody eats food. That's my line. Yo, handsome, you like to eat food. And like what, are you going to say no to me? Like, of course you like to eat food? No?
Speaker 1:I fast, I fast for 80 days at a click.
Speaker 2:Really, bro, like okay. And then my followup line is that if you don't like food, you must drink alcohol. I got something to hang over, you know. Like, something like that.
Speaker 1:And just it. Just always on your toes, man, You're just always ready.
Speaker 2:Well, it's. It's, I guess, when you feed me like a lot of coffee and in the morning, when I'm just like very anxious to talk to people and it's sunny out and like there's always a beer distributor that's going to give me like a four pack to just, you know, be funny. So that's kind of what I do.
Speaker 1:And so, uh, farmers markets, you, just you. You find the ones that would have there been, any that don't work, you find the ones that do work that areas, or have they all?
Speaker 2:been great for you, Um so some of them I don't know. I want to say at the beginning it was tough because I was just like the loud seasoning guy. That was kind of just like being a little obnoxious. Cause when you go to a farmer's market you're dealing with like a different type of people like you know you're, you're different. You're dealing with people that want to get in, get their vegetables, and then they're only using salt and pepper and it's their salt and their pepper. They know where it is.
Speaker 2:For me, being like loud sunglass is on kind of obnoxious and I'm sitting there, you know, hawking seasonings at people. It's like hard to like build that kind of rapport. But then when you come over and you read the labels and you you're like, oh my God, there's no MSG in this, there's no sodium dioxide, there's no nothing that's going to hurt me in here. It looks clean. You know you can tell the labels are funny, they got funny names. So then you're right, I'll try one of them. And then you realize you get honey, chipotle, you're hooked, it's good on everything. So then you come back hey, I'm making burgers, I got signature burger, I got this one, you're doing this. And then you just build a good relationship with these people, especially the ones that know how to cook man Like. It's just a good community to be immersed in, like is there a way that you can leverage this?
Speaker 1:get into restaurants to be the seasoning.
Speaker 2:I'm already seasoning a restaurant. I'm already in restaurants. Oh you are. Yeah, I won't tell which ones, but I'm in a bunch.
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:So burger seasoning is in like 15 different restaurants on the North Shore.
Speaker 1:You have to tell me afterwards which ones, and then, if it's ones that I don't know, if it's ones that I know that you're not often, make the intro.
Speaker 2:The burger. It's all good. Dude, I want the word to spread organically. That is organically. Yeah, I know, I tried it. I loved it. Hey, try this.
Speaker 2:I want the guy to come to the farmer's market and be like yo, this is loud asshole screaming about burger seasonings. Who said he was drinking last night and he used some honey thing to screw it? Yeah, and I want him to try and be like oh wow, the guy's a little noxious, but he's got a great product. Let's bring him in. That's awesome. It's just funny, bro.
Speaker 2:But like, yeah, good dudes like you that spread the word. Like the Rusty Cuff guys, the podcast guys they spread the word. The WWE guys that I work with they spread the word. Dude, like, it's just a bunch of good community. Like Ryan, ryan stocks his shelves with all dudes products. Okay, babylon Village Meat Markets I label his seasonings for him. You know, marty Seafood, I label her seasonings for her. You know, right over here, marty's, yeah, yeah. So I'm constantly Marty's is dope, marty's is dope, yeah, yeah, but it's just constantly. I just want to like, I just want to spread the word that they're available. We're on the island. Like, you can get them. You want to make a love spice for a wedding. I can do that for you and label it funny, you know like. You know funny ones like don't be a jerk. Is your husband bothering you? Order my bottle. Don't be a jerk, the best jerk seasoning around.
Speaker 1:You know like that'd be actually great. To just give these out as wedding, as wedding gifts for, like, a healthy wedding yeah, just to have these in the bag. Speaking of giveaways it's usually bullshit. Wait a minute, what do you have on there? Speaking of giveaways so I was.
Speaker 2:I actually am very close with the guy, rob from chefs arsenalcom. Chef's arsenal Shout out Yep, right in Beth page. Great dude, another great dude, because we're just a bunch of great dudes Hooking up great dudes. He gave me this knife to come on this podcast and give away. Let me see, this is a $200 global knife that's weighted perfectly. I've actually used this a bunch of times. It is, I think, g2 stainless. It's awesome. Nice, if you go to dudesgourmetcom and use the code word Rizzles.
Speaker 1:I know that guy.
Speaker 2:Yep, you get entered to win this. This thing is dope. Spend 20 bucks. Use the code word Rizzles. You're good to go and you got to follow us both.
Speaker 1:Yes, you have to follow us both.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro, that thing is sick.
Speaker 1:This thing is dope, right. Yo look at the grip on that. That is nice, yeah, man. So what type of knife is this? Is this a chef's knife? Just a regular knife? So that's an.
Speaker 2:Aiden chef's knife. It's awesome. It's good for all Everything. I would tell people that if they wanted to get into home cooking, grab one size knife and learn how to do everything with it. That's it and that's the knife that you can do everything with. You can debone a chicken, you can do fine cuts with it, you can do anything you want.
Speaker 1:And it's a Japanese knife.
Speaker 2:It is made in Japan.
Speaker 1:Yep, this is awesome man. Yeah, bro, all right. So the giveaway dudesgourmet, rizzles, rizzles, code Rizzles Yep, use it, enter it. 200 dollar knife yeah, y'all cook, y'all eat, right. Yeah, you like to eat, right, you guys like to eat food? Yeah, that's awesome, bro, right. So when you're coming up with new seasonings, what's the inspiration? Is there something that you? Is it just a click, like the inspiration with editing? Is it just something that you kind of see I want to do in the future, but I just haven't gotten the right combo down yet.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I don't want to like toot my own horn here, but it's like if you know how to sell it, you can sell it. So now I know that the Blenz are always going to be awesome. It's more about like do I have a funny name? Like big dude, energy play on big energy. You know like big If you can sell it. You know like that's it, man. Like you have to have a funny story and that's like the same thing with anything. You know like people want to hear something funny. Like okay, cool, I went out drinking last night.
Speaker 2:Honey Chipotle on my egg is going to cure my hangovers. That's what the kid said. You make an egg sandwich. You're like wow, I feel better. I feel better, it's great. I love it. When you call me steak poppy, anchovy chili based steak season you got to play the song when you use it. I love it. When you call me steak poppy, you know like, yeah, it's just funny, it's creative. That's it, man. Grandma Lucy's. She hit me with a wooden spoon when I took the recipe. I still can't open my hand all the way. You know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:That was over for that hand. That's awesome, man. Well listen, dude, dude, for real, dude, you're awesome. It's been a pleasure getting to know you even better. And chopping it up, we're going to Montana. Yes, we're doing a road trip vlog of just everything that we got going on. Stop at restaurants, maybe hunting a little bit.
Speaker 2:Bro will be fueled by rain.
Speaker 1:Will bring cases of. It Will be good Dude hell yeah. What? How can people get in touch with you, Like with your personal, social and everything like that? We have the website dudesgourmetcom.
Speaker 2:Honestly, if you have any questions about the products or if you want to learn how to cook something cool, just hit me up on Instagram, send me a DM. I'm the guy that answers them. We're good to go, man.
Speaker 1:Good to go.
Speaker 2:That's it. You can send me an email if you want tomatdudesgourmetcom. I mean, it is what it is, bro.
Speaker 1:He's just the dude man. He's going to pop up at your local farmer's market and be like yo. That was the dude on Rizology.
Speaker 2:I got to go buy everything. Her story is about him. He is funny, but he is amazing.
Speaker 1:He is going to live and he asked me if I like food. Yo, bro, I did have a hangover last night. I did have a hangover and he cured it. I appreciate you for real. Thank you for spending the time with me.
Speaker 2:Bro, this is awesome dude. We got to get you in the kitchen, though.
Speaker 1:I'm going to come to the kitchen. I will. I will come to the kitchen For everybody else. I hope you enjoyed the episode with my man dudes, tom big Tom. That's the man. Please follow him. Please enter the giveaway, support local business for some of the seasonings. I'm not just saying y'all know I don't just spit bullshit. I don't recommend things that I don't like and I wouldn't actually use. They're actually fucking delicious, they're awesome, and I only started with the Honeji Potley and I'm very thankful that you brought all these for me, because now I'm going to try them all and I got air fryers and we're going to do a lot of cool things. You got to give me some air fryer.
Speaker 2:Dude, I love the lazy people machine, bro, it's awesome, yes you got to give me some air fryer recipes.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, bro. So, on that note, please like, share, subscribe on the YouTube channel. If you can, please leave a review on any of the audio platforms for the podcast. It helps hit the algorithm, share and spread the word and, on that note, I appreciate all y'all for fucking with us and, for now, peace.