#121 | The 8Well Boys |

Welcome to episode #121 of Rizzology, where Nick Rizzo sits with the dynamic team behind 8Well—Nick Valenti, TJ Arella, and Tyler Brown—dive into the multi faceted world of modern dating, gym culture, business intricacies, and more. Join us as we uncover humorous bar encounters, scrutinize the attention economy on dating apps, and reflect on high-performance training antics. We explore balancing bustling schedules with structured workouts, delve into the benefits of blue light glasses, and talk about setting boundaries in an always-online world.

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00:00 SEC will regulate token and asset scams.
06:39 Meme coins lack value, driven by hype.
15:53 Consider brand loyalty over costly influencers.
18:33 Planning is essential to achieve tasks efficiently.
25:46 Maximizing efficiency frees mental and organizational space.
31:08 Balancing cooking, budget, and family priorities.
32:59 Surround yourself with experts to realize ideas.
39:10 Evolving from accepting all to strategic planning.
45:25 Acknowledge limiting beliefs and prioritize personal time.
52:14 Ordered smoky clear glasses for bigger frames.
55:59 Blue light lenses help calm post-gaming adrenaline.
01:01:29 Technology reduces genuine interpersonal connections.
01:08:31 Dating issues discussed on certain podcasts.
01:09:31 Average girls receive more attention than handsome guys.
01:18:01 Build diverse revenue streams; differentiate to survive.
01:20:54 Take responsibility; plan to scale business effectively.
01:25:06 Balancing workouts, social life, and parenting.
01:35:08 Genuine, customer-focused fitness studio business model.
01:36:43 Systematic social connections: spouse, family, friends.
01:43:09 Dietitians provide comprehensive support beyond nutrition.
01:46:17 Organize priorities; additives aren't main issue.
01:53:55 Prepped meals hastily: prioritizing animal-based diet.
01:57:00 Intimate, personalized wellness and growth experience.

Transcript

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You got the names right. You got. You're. You're following the path of names, but it's the wrong one. You're lucky you didn't get touched. I mean, he immediately just got physically abused. Yeah, right. He immediately got physically abused by OC upon entering our studio. Oh, me? Yeah, he. He still. Every day I walk into the gym, like, he just stares through you sometimes. Hey, man. Hey, man. How's it going? You can feel it's a gaze. You feel the gaze touch your soul? No. So the gaze. That was a Robin big thing. Do you remember that? Oh, that was a Robin big skit. They went to this. Dude, this is on. We're good. We're rolling, right? Yeah, we're rolling. Yeah. Cool. Actually, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's how I do it. Welcome to Nikki Razel podcast. Welcome to Rosalogy. You know what? Real quick, real quick, down the line. Names. Yeah, yeah. Tyler. Tyler Brown, co owner, awol. Nick Valenti, dietician. TJ Rella, co owner, Sick. And Nicky Rizzles. Hey, now. Hey, now. Nick Rizzo. If you're looking for mailing addresses. Rizzles. Rizzles is not a real name. I've had that problem before. They've done planes. I said, how quickly does he punch me in the face? And I start cracking all the Rizzler jokes. Dude, I can't get away from. Away from it. It's that and it's the. It's rising. Yeah, just Riz in general. You said that you were like, fuck, I had it first. What are we doing, guys? Like, I just. It's constantly. Every now and then you get some asshole online. Original. It's like, okay, okay. Jerk off. Like, I get. It's. That's not what it is. 10 years. My last name hasn't been this for my entire life. But yeah, yeah, sure. Well, you guys caught me. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. But yeah. And now I see this. This overweight child that they're abusing for views on the Internet. Please don't slander that man. I love. I didn't do it. He do it. I get. Yeah. Zooming in on that one. That's going to be our new gift. That. We're going to be crazy. My family will disown me. Please. Blowing up. He's blowing up, though. You see, like, Mac Jones scored a touchdown or he, like, got a first down. They're doing it. Is the. He's sh. I'll wait till Lamar Jackson does it. Yeah. No, I mean, and then we'll start talking. You're right. Yeah. I'm glad Mack left New England. Thank you. I feel like this is the first biggest year that all these influencers took a little bit of dominance. I was like, yeah, who's the guy? Sports like this. Who's the one that did, like, this guy? Special team, special players. Yeah, Right. Remember, like, they all, like, took that. Ran with it, too, like now at. Like, City Field, like, at a Mets game. I was there this year, and I'm like, our guest, our official influencer, right? It's like, the Rizzler's here. This is here. And I'm like, it's really interesting. Yeah. They brought the professional. It's professional. Yeah. Well, I mean, the mic, it's a joke. Nick's a big hug to a girl. Cohen is going to come after you. See, I don't have to behave. This is my show. You're just upset because Soto signed with the Mets. I am upset. Talking about hock to a girl. Did you. Unbelievable. Did you see her scam everybody out of memes? Dude. Pumped it. And then she pulled out, like, what, literally $500 million? Yeah, 500. I'm pretty sure. Like, it was like something like it went up or went up to 500, and they brought it. They sold off. Went down. We got one, two. Let's take a look. It's screwed up, but it's. It's. It's really smart, it's intelligent, it's interesting, but it's also just, like, terrible at the same. But also, like, people should understand, like, that's what meme coins are. Yeah, right. You got. I mean, no, they shouldn't. You run the risk of it. You run the risk of that type. But the dumb thing is, though, she's probably actually going to get in trouble for this when they could have just sold off 2 million, right. And just stayed in the game and she could just put a million and a half in her pocket and someone else got some money. Right. Can you explain to me why she would get in trouble? So there's securitization of tokens and of assets and things that other people are going to trade. So the SEC at some point is going to say you're not allowed to basically scam people out of their money, right? So, like, you basically told people that there was a coin here that they could invest in over time. And if you have more control over it than you're telling people, so you drop a meme coin, you shouldn't be able to control everything in that asset. Right? You're telling it like she owns Like. A. I see what you're saying. She probably owns 90%. Exactly. So if it's sold, it's going to drop. It's basically insider trading. I mean, is that on a certain platform? Because if one platform versus another, where people are actually just voluntarily putting their. Money here, is that. It's not a security. Yeah, right. Like, it's not like she didn't do it in. In Apple. That's the whole. That's the whole allure for a lot of people for crypto is there isn't as much regular, you know, regulations and. And control from, you know, a governing body. Yeah. So it'll take a long time for it actually to go down if something does happen. But the SEC has cracked down on more of this because there's just been like, these. They were called initial coin offerings. Right. Like, where do this. So, like. But for a business, right, Like Risology Podcast, you could. You could. You could drop a coin and people could invest that to kind of invest in you. Right. And then. But there's a lot of that that were getting spiked up and then dumped off and then you'd run away with something. That's crazy. So there. There was more investigation into it. So she. Because of the allure around it and her name, she's probably going to get looked at and she's not going to have a great time. But eight. Well coin. She could have just done this a little smarter. Took a couple million off the table. He's broke. He's, like, figuring out how we do it. I think I oc like walking around the gym be like, hey, listen, I got this. I got this. You know, like, oh, man. To be rich. We love him. We love him. Hayley Welch, known mostly as the star of the viral. I can't. I don't want to call her Hawk 2 anymore. I got to put like a little flair on it. The spit on it chick we're going to call it is facing criticism after her newly launched cryptocurrency nosedived in value. Her Hawk. Oh, God. Digital coin hit. First off, who the fuck is this dumb. Yeah, you really. You really investing into this. And you know, there are. Stop it. Stop it. Get out. Get. Get OC in here. Take that. The door. He was weird. No, we were weird. There were some people that said that they lost their entire life saving. That's stupid. That's. Brother. Look at. What are we talking about here? Also, like, what are you looking at? First off, if you're a wife and your husband lost your life savings on. The Hawk tour he's doing. What else is this man doing? How deep are you in? I didn't even know the coin was a thing until I saw that it got bombarded like that and she pulled. Out attention to stupid shit. I'm saying, like, who saw that within the time span, said, I have this much liquid money that is available right now to put into this coin just for shits and do like that. That is. That's psychotic. Would you guys have done if I came to the gym and I just went, yo, guys, I got 20 bands I'm throwing on Hawk, the Hawk corner. It's gonna be crazy. Like, I bro, we're going to the moon. That's like anything though. We'll see you later. It's like, nick, get the fuck out. Yeah, doors that way. Yeah, doors that way. You got some shit to figure out. Yeah, yeah. Take that walk back to your apartment. Oh, yeah, there's a market for meme coins, right? Like we're gonna see all this shit happen. Like, so ones that are associated. Like, think about dogecoin. I was about to say Doge, the mean coin, right? There's no inherent value, there's no intrinsic value of that coin besides Elon Musk. Now, Doge, backed by nothing besides the hype of the lore of this, right? So crazy. There's no, like, it's not limited. Like bitcoin. It can't transact. Well, Tesla can build on the coin. I think I saw that it does. But there's no limited. There's no limiter on it, right? Just create. And there's a bunch of shits. So there's no. It's a meme coin. So as they're building, right? What happened? He said that Tesla accepts dogecoin. I saw it. I. Why? Do you have some stocked up Doge? No, I don't, but I know what TJ does. TJ has a ton of dose Department of Government plugging it right now. Pull out that crypto wallet, let's see it. Oh, no. Are you searching right now? He's searching it. It is. That's what I saw. Tesla only accepts dogecoin. Can you imagine? Because I know they don't take bitcoin anymore for some reason. Just because he wants to pump Doge. Yeah, it makes sense. He's a smart guy. He knows what the fuck he's doing. Like sitting on his bags of money. Sitting on a bunch of Chiba coins. It would be interesting. But the thing is, like meme coins, you're supposed to just enjoy the Ride, right. And get out before something stupid. Yeah, more of a fun thing. Yeah. While things are hot, it almost like gives more value to the creators. Right? So people can create something they could put, pump it up in the market and like, it sounds funny, sounds cool, but you got to be ahead of the fucking meme. I'm laughing because you're saying, yeah, like, you know, it's supposed to be fun and just like, you know, ride out for a little while and that, bro, nobody had a chance to ride this thing. This year was out for it. It hit 490 million market cap and then it, shortly after it launched on Wednesday and then suddenly lost 95% of its value within hours. Oh my God. Would you imagine you buy all of it. Sometimes you gotta tip your cap. Like, Touche. Yeah, she just disappears. She disappears. Yeah. Changes her name, gets placed. She dropped the podcast like the next day she's like. I mean she really. Yeah, she has. I mean, I could imagine she's pretty big. Flashback or threats or something from something like. That's crazy. I guess the thing is too like, yeah, who the fuck was investing in this? And if you were, you probably don't want to be like posting, oh, I lost all my money in fucking October. Spit on a chick. Yeah, yeah, Nick. Yeah. I mean, you know, people, people getting shot like CEOs of healthcare companies. Crazy. Getting shot directly in the chest over whatever, that was unbelievable. So I mean, you lose people hundreds of thousands of millions of dollars. Yeah. Directly. Sweetheart, hide. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. And people just also, you can see, even with that situation, people don't like that shit. Right. Like you taking advantage of people. So like, yeah, question there. Where are you going and whose money you just took? And there's. Yeah, there's a brand goes back to the branding of. I mean, she hit so fast, right. And then doesn't understand marketing, the branding, what that actually could have entailed. And she probably could have grown more, could still do more. Right. But I'm sure that tarnishes a lot based off of like what she could do. Right. We're really, I think we're really underestimating the stupidness of like the average human being. No, for real. Yeah. Cause it's pretty dumb. Seriously. I mean, see the problem is, and it's not necessarily a problem because we're doing it right. We associate with like minded people. So we have generally people that have a pretty solid brain capacity similar to what you are on par with. But then you look around, you're just like there's no way. You go, oh, wow. No, there's a way. There's a way. There's a way for people to really continue to shock us. You don't know. Stupid. Some of the shit that they do is. Yeah. Yep. Or the trends that they follow. I mean, how many. How many people you see fame out of nowhere, like her, you know, we use her as an example. You could use a million other people. And you just look and you go, why is this person relevant? Why? I just need to know. I watch. No offense, man. Rizzler. Sorry, brother. I listen, yeah, he's a cute kid, whatever. But, like, you could. Sorry, mother, I do that. What is it? Tim Dillon. Tim Dillon. What's it? What's the dude, the comedian? Yeah, Tim Dillon. Yeah, yeah, he. He was really talking about. And he was just like, yo, you could tell that the father has wanted to be famous for fucking and he's. Just riding this out. Well, he was a Costco guy. He was. He was those. The dressed up in that Spider man costume like four years ago, like after Covid, the Rizzler became the Rizzler more recently. But he was just. His parents were putting clips of the kid up because he was a cute, chubby little kid and he was like saying funny things, doing funny things. He used to dress up as like Halloween costume or Spider man or like, tell us. Right. It was like cute little videos. Yeah. Then it turned into this like officialized figure. I like that, you know, the war doing the wrestler. Because I saw a video the other day of him in the kitchen doing something. It was funny video of like this little kid doing whatever. And then a whole comment's like, I think that's the Rizzler. But it's like he's four years old, like literally like, you know, three years ago. And just constant. I feel like his family isn't as crazy as you see. Like the Baby Gronk kid. Who's Baby Gronk? You've never seen this kid? I don't think so. So this was like a little kid that was. You've seen this kid before? No, he plays football and he was like a really oversized, like 10 year old and he was going around like laying out all these younger kids and he was getting recruited by all these top schools just like as a joke. And like now he thinks that he's like godsend, like 13. But his dad, like, really thinks that he committed to Alabama. Yeah, really thinks he committed. This kid's got 593,000. I'm telling you. He's gonna be fine. This kid's gonna get an nil deal and be dude. So he's with, like, all these kind of, like, cool collabs. Like, oh, he's with this dude that just looks like the most bloated dude ever. Oh, I've seen this. No, no. This dude. No, Chef. Yeah, yeah, Big Jack. I've seen this kid. My man's, like, body just creeps me out. He just looks bloated and uncomfortable everywhere. Like, there's, like, too much Synthol in the moms, brother. That's probably what it is. Oh, yeah, that's definitely what it is. So stiff and rigid. I'll tell you what, man, these. When you get kids like this that blow up in fame or they blow up in notoriety so quickly, right out the gun like that, they are so creepy later in life because they. Number one, they feel like they're. They're owed something. It's like, okay, well, you're. What is it? What do they call it? 15 seconds of fame. Your 15 seconds of fame lasted way too long, and it lasted a few years longer than that seconds should have. Yeah. And so now you have a dude who, I mean, is definitely gonna be creepy with fucking girls. Yeah. Think about. Yo. These are the dudes that you just like. Oh, brother, please stop. Think about. Think about the. Think about the identity crisis this kid's gonna have. Yeah, right. Yeah. So he was a character online for his childhood and into his teens. Do the thing. Yeah. And then when it comes out, you need to be a real person. You meet people in person yet, and you don't even know how to socialize with people in public because you've actually just been that character the entire time. Who the hell are you going to be when you're an adult? Yeah. It's almost like childhood actors that we see now. But it's. It might be worse for these people. It might be because 20 years. Because never stop. The spread of awareness is so quick. And. Yeah. And it can happen literally overnight where, like, you had. If you were a child actor, you had to be on shows, you had to do signings to gain some popularity and audience. Someone else controlled it a little bit. Adults had a hand. Different, toxic. Some good different scenes. But now it's like, they could still go back to their profile. I haven't seen it. You know. Yeah, someone's going to bring up your video from 10 years ago. Right. And like, oh, you were this guy. But like, you think you still have a million real followers, but, like, maybe it's just right. Ten years that could still be sitting there, but it fades. It's not real. Yeah, there's no deployable followers aren't real. Anybody that I've seen that has all those followers, 90% of the time, it's mostly not the engagement or the reach that you believe it's going to be. And it's funny because guys in like the under 10,000 or you know, influencers, you call them whatever you want. Influencers under 10,000 have more of a reach and more organic engagement than the people with 100,000. It's so crazy to watch. And sometimes I've collaborated with big accounts before and I'm just like, oh, yeah, no, this ain't it. Yeah, we're kind of on par for what I get by myself. Yeah, this is interesting. I think the different, like, so we had a guy on our podcast, Sky Corey, and I think that you've seen from, from the insights that come out from, from the podcast. And like, still, we had him on probably a few episodes ago and there's like, there's a, like every day there's engagement. Someone commenting on real use. He has a million. He has a million followers. Yeah, but it's real. Right? Like, so the video, probably even less than what he posts his own content. He posts on itself. Probably got 100,000 views or something like that. But every day there's a, like a comment, a reshare, because he has a real authentic engagement and real checking in and seeing. Oh, shit, look at this. Yeah, we've had other people on there that like, you seen some likes come in and. Yeah, and then it never tr, like never transitioned to like some real engagement or it looked like fake followers at the end of it. Right. So, yeah, you got to be cautious with these big following. I sell us to brands all the time too. I just say, you know, they talk about. Because sometimes they'll confide in me and be like, yo, we're thinking of signing X. What do you think? Yeah. I go, I don't know. Are they worth the money? Is this going to be the ROI that you believe it's going to be? Yeah. You're going to spend, let's just say, 20,000amonth to sign this person. 100,000amonth. Whatever this person's asking for, you're going to sign them for that. Are you going to get that plus some back? Is that the awareness that this person is going to bring to your brand? Because if it's not, it's a waste of fucking money just to have a Name or is it, you know, and you see, and you see these athletes and these influencers cycle brands out all the time. In my eyes, I want to be brand loyal. I don't if I'm a big name or influencer or I talk about a product or I talk about something that I really do, like I want it to be because I really like that brand and I ride it out with them. I don't want to be with a brand. And then all of a sudden, two weeks later I'm just like, oh, well guess what? This is the best protein. And two months later it's like, no, no, no, no, I lied two months ago. This is the best protein. And there's no, there's no authenticity. Then. Oh yeah. If you're just gonna take every brand that gives you a deal, you're chasing a bag. Yeah. You're chasing like, which, hey, good for you. Run it up. Good. But there's a limited. Your, your followers are going to see like it's. At some point it's going to look fake. Yeah. If it doesn't feel, what's the legitimate. What can people trust in you? Exactly. Who are you? As new every, every week. Yeah, yeah. I'm not trusting the products you put out. Yeah. I'm just putting the phone on, do not disturb because I know something's going to come through. There's going to be a buzz and then I'm thinking of it always. Always. Oh, I hate that. I hate when I. Because I'm the guy that like I have to mute chats, like, I'll send a text out. I'd be like, hey, invoices due. Hey this, hey that. And then I'll have other shit to do. And I just go, I know if I see that message come through, my mind's going to be on it. You're going to try to address it. Yeah, I just cut it. I got to just like sent it. We'll deal with it later. Like, so I can just be clear and be in the moment, present. You know, business owners, you guys get it. It's tough, yo, to stay in the moment because you're always thinking, next month, the month after that. What do we got? You know, especially for guys at the gym, what promos are you guys going to run? What, what nutrition? You know, how many clients do you have to deal with nutritional plans? Who's not checking in? Who's this and that? It's like a constant follow up. Yeah, it's a constant follow up with yourself too. Because we've had Times where we've done a much better job of it now that we're in year three, approaching year four. But things that we had were great ideas and then like, oh, shit, it's a week out, like, we gotta do it. Or like we're not. Like, it's like thought of it three months ago, you know, and it's like so much in between. Every day, every hour of the day, every minute of the hour, every text you gotta attend to, if you open it and you don't switch it back to get. Push the notification back on your phone to see it. I forget to respond to people all the time because of that. Because it's just like the next hour. The next hour. Right. The next week, the next month. What do we got? Oh, shit, we should do this. We got to do it now. Yeah, it's really interesting. It's hard to live in the moment. Tough. A lot of it, it's about planning because if you don't, if you don't put that shit down, if you don't put that. Like I run like a weekly, a weekly planner kind of with a task list and I'm trying to check things off because if I don't put it there, like, it's just not going to happen. Yeah. So now the one text that came back that probably could have been a client or a follow up on something is gone. Because, yeah, we had a content shoot and then we had a, we had a podcast that we had to do. And now that that opportunity is out the window because you didn't kind of put it on the list to accomplish it first, an email you had to shoot back. Even like this podcast. Right. Like, I'm asking him, he's asking me. He's at like three different times in the last week. Yeah, I checked in with you too. No, we were locked in. We were locked in. No, we had to come. I checked in too. Honestly. Tyler put it into our calendar. Yeah. And like when I was scheduling out all my stuff this week, I was like, oh, thank God he put it there. Because, like, I would. Because you're just putting stuff into your calendar and you're just like, I have like three different calendars for three different things. And every time I would go check, I'd be like, that's in my face. I'm like, okay, build everything off the calendar. It's got to be in there. Like, we had a, we had a literally a content shoot yesterday. We're sitting, we have an 11 o'clock meeting, runs over to 12, and the guy with the camera, like, walks in and we're like, what are you doing here? Yeah, like, we thought we had three hours to go work on some other stuff, Work out, eat lunch, right? He's like, we're supposed to shoot these things. And we had some promos we want to put out. We had some other content we needed for one. One. It's like, all right, I guess we just got to fucking get this. Swing it. Let's do it. I started my workout in the middle of the tail end. We got videos done. Did a great job. Yeah, it's going to be solid. Yeah. But that's one of the things that I constantly am battling with. Just because I'm envious of teams in a lot of ways, because you guys have each other to lean on, but there's also more responsibility, communication, responsibility. Yeah, there's a lot more that, you know, could go wrong, but you have to get in that rhythm with the team while you're doing things, you know? For me, it gets very difficult. Like, I tell my mom all the time, just like. Because she's like my rock to lean on. She's an entrepreneur for years, and I just tell her all the time. I go, I'm just tired of cramming. That's my biggest thing. I just. I wanna. And unfortunately, I don't think it's ever gonna change. I really don't. I don't think no matter how good you schedule, there's so many things that happen that are out of your control. Totally. So even though, like, I was supposed to have a shoot this morning. Supposed to have a shoot this morning. And I was like, okay. As I'm planning my week out the other day, I'm just like, all right, shoot. Get there by 9, shoot until 11, come back. If I had that shoot today, I wouldn't be able to set the room up for the. It would have been shot. It really would have been. Because this chair was broken until, literally, it was big, baby. Miller came in here, fucking sat in it, and broke my chair. I'm going to buy him a wood plank next time. But, dude, it was crazy. He just fucking sat. He's like, you have a bigger chair? I go, no, I'm little. This is it. I'm a normal. These are average size chairs. They're average sized chairs. Jamal sits in that one. Usually, like these two, the cushion isn't even attached because it didn't come with the bolts. No, no, don't fuck with us. You're doing good. You're doing good. Don't move. Yeah. And then so this was like my fourth ringer chair. And then I have like a foldable chair over there. Next I have as the extra. He's on a little stool right now. Yeah. Oh, she's in the corner. No, he's on an apple box in the corner. He's on a movie set. But so, you know, and I. And I try to plan everything to give myself enough time, but it just never seems like there is enough time because the intersection of life and business becomes so. The lines become so blurred. And then, you know, you guys are in the fitness space. I have let my not personal fitness go, but I'm not as stringent as I was when I was hitting OG every fucking morning Jiu Jitsu at night. Because when I was doing that, my business suffered. Yeah. Like, I wasn't focusing on the business. So then you reversed the roles and now you're focused on your business, but your fitness, like it's. Yeah.

Get up. I tried getting up 5: 22:19

30 this morning. Try getting up at 5. I

didn't try. I got up at 5: 22:22

30 this morning. But then I'm walking around the apartment, Kenji's looking at me, I'm like, I can't have you howl when I leave. Because he howls when he. In the morning. I have one upstairs neighbor. I'm just like, she's very nice, she's sweetheart. But I'm just like, I don't want to wake her up. All those little things. Yeah. I'm like, all right, so fuck it. So I take him for a walk. And I take him for a walk. I come back into the apartment, I take his leash off. He's sitting there staring at me like, what are you about to do? Are you about to dip? And I'm looking at the clock or are we chilling? Yeah. Are we kicking it? And I'm looking at him and I'm starting. Now I'm starting to get tired because I've been up too early for too long and I haven't done anything yet. So I start looking at the clock and I go, all right, I'm gonna drive to Bev's. I'm gonna get a workout in. But fuck, he needs his pills at 8. So it's

6: 23:07

20 right now. It'll take me 20 minutes to get to Bev's. I go, what am I wearing for fucking 40 minutes? And then drive all the way back just to feed him and get his pills in. I'm like. And then I gotta walk him. And then I have to shoot at nine, I said, fuck it. I just sat down. I was like, I just, I'm like, it's like only so much I can, like, fight myself on. So I guess the moral of the story is for people, especially entrepreneurs, business owners, whatnot, and people that have lives. Yep. It's, it could be a very tough seesaw balancing act to try to get everything in. Like, I'm gonna go to Jiu

Jitsu tonight. Yep. Yeah. But I got an ear doctor appointment at 5: 23:36

00. So you're

just like, Jiu Jitsu's at 6: 23:40

30. Are they gonna run over? You're like, God, yeah. Just be chill. Yeah, man. I think that. And we talk about a lot. It's about, yeah. You try to create a plan. If you're a business owner, you got a family, got things you want to do, you get that plan gets punched in the face a lot, Right. Things switch. But overall, if you can check in with yourself and kind of say, I know what I need to at least feel, feel good, right? I need to go to Jiu Jitsu twice a week. I know I need to work out twice. I got to walk my dog a couple times. If I can hit those things, I know I can go to work every day and write and feel all right. And just trying to hit those, right? Like, not minimal, but just like, what is my. Yeah. What is my most. Like, yeah, my minimum viable. What's my minimum viable product? Right? For myself, I know, like, for me, it's got to be like, I got to work out three times and I probably got to run one of those days where I only have 20 minutes, right. On a weekend. And then on the weekends, I don't work out, but I make my family, like, go for a hike, right? I got a walk, we got to take a walk. We got to walk to the park or we're going to go hike. Like every Sunday. I'm like, I'm trying to train it in them. Like, yeah, like, rocking. Yeah. Like, we got to do some. Because, like, I, I, I go, I've thrown on a vest, right? To make it, to make it harder. Because it's like, I, I know I need to move like, I'm gonna go like, stir crazy in the house. I can't just like, 100 move, like. And I know that I, I need some movement. I want, I, ideally, I put that in them, but I know I can't. I, I would love to be in the gym six days a week, just like hitting chest one day, hitting back another day. I Just like I don't have the time for it. Right. So it's like what's my minimum viable that I can hit in order to feel good and then be able to kind of be productive with everything else on the outside. I think it's like finding what's worth it to time crunch. Like you're more than welcome to come midday if you want to hit a little lift at our spot. Even though it's not the machines either. This, that, but like I don't want the machines. I haven't lifted, I haven't lifted in a commercial. That was a little dig. He was digging. We've been inviting. You know how to work out with machines? Yeah, yeah. Come work out at our gym and. Use a barbell and kettlebells. Can you make that work? Yeah, you guys can hang out as. Long as you want. But it's, it's tough. Like I haven't lifted a commercial gym. I used to go to profit. I've gone to bevs a little. Not like really membership there, but like other gyms. Right. I haven't lifted in a gym that I haven't trained in in probably like six years. Just because it's. I'm just there, I'm there, I'm doing it. I'm back and forth managing things, getting things done. The mental space, or I get frees up some more, some mental space. At the end of the day when you don't take the 20 minute drive back and forth, you don't do this, don't do that, and then it's like, okay, maybe you cut out that extra hour and a half for yourself to make more room to get more done, more mental space, more organizational room. I feel like efficiency is tough. You know, just like I try to get up on the weekends at the same time I do during the week because I feel like that time always allows me to wake up, sets the time for the day, sets myself to go and get it during the week. Obviously it's tough. Like we're in the training people first thing in the morning so we don't get that personal time. But I feel like when you do have it, you take advantage of it. I think even like little shit like we've talked about like warm up. Yeah. Or workout. Right. Like your average workout prior prior to this, owning your own gym, being in that space was probably workout was an hour and a half long, right? Yeah. You warmed up for 20 minutes, you. Could afford to wait too, right? Yes. Yeah, I'm in, in and out 45 to 55 minutes every workout. Right. And my warm up is five minutes. Right. If. If that. And you're right into it. Straight into it with the. You had to do it. Yeah, it's got it done. He's just kind of maximizing what you can get out of that time. Yeah. I think that preaches for the benefits of obviously group training as well. For what you guys do in your out. It moves. You just, you don't have to think about it. That's what I love. And truthfully, that's what I loved about it. I love that I would just go and I'm fucking done in an hour. Like, I don't have to sit there. What do I want to do for back? What should I do? I don't want to do deadlifts today. All right, I guess I'll do a couple movements first and then I'll deadlift. No, no, no, no. That's on the board. We're getting it done. Like, it just is what it is. That was like one of the first things I noticed when you, when I like started and like joined you guys. Like, I've worked at a couple other places that have been more like personal training and just like kind of open gym esque. Yeah. And then when, when we hear. It's like very efficient. Like, they walk in, they're in and out in an hour and gas by the end. I got enough. Yeah. Of every exercise, of every movement, volume. Well, it's like a well oil machine. And like when we talk about some of the programming stuff, like the timelines, it's just cool to see, you know, like, now that I've been coaching and seeing like the process of it, it's. It's nice to understand, like, what's going into it. Cool. Like when these guys go and it's like, all right, 58 minutes and they're done, you're like, let's go. Yeah, like, let's go. That hits perfect. Yep. Like, I. And I know even like 48 minutes sometimes prep, prep. The members rolling out, stretch and having conversations. It's like that's like this optimal hour this morning. We're running like the last, like finisher. And I'm like looking at the clock, I'm looking at their time, how much they have left. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be a photo finish. Like, this is gonna be perfect. Like, get them out. Like, yeah, try to

get them out at 8: 28:26

00 and like, get them, let them hit work. But. And like, I think our average member, right, is someone like us Right. Like, either they're. They're a working person or they're. They're a parent, right. Or either even a state on. But like, they've got, they run on the timeline, right? So you kind of. You got to get them into that workout. And you get pressure in the beginning, right? If people are hanging out and little people are like, I gotta get the hell outta here. Right? So you want. That workout's gotta hit. It's gotta be exactly what they needed and they gotta be able to get back out to their family to work, whatever they gotta do. But it's for them not having to kind of create a workout plan for themselves. Getting something they know is good work, it's efficient, and they can get right back out and get to their life, right? And they feel good about it. That's the whole thing, efficiency. Yeah. Just taking the guesswork out of shit. It helps. It helps, like, more than anything, you know? And I want you to speak on the nutritional side of things, because it's tough, man. Yeah, it's tough to get that side down. For years I had that side down with the bodybuilding. I really did. I got my meal plans, I had my macros, and I just felt super flexible. Unfortunately, I've learned too much about food. I've learned too much. So when I go to the grocery store, whereas I would just, oh, shit, I'm gonna grab this and this will be great for this macro, this or that. I would just grab everything and I would have no thought of, like, the ingredients, the extra bullshit in it. What are the artificial sweeteners? Like, all the extra shit that you now knowing what you know, like, knowledge is power. But at the same time, knowledge can also cripple you. Because now I just go to the grocery store, I go, yeah. Oh, fuck. I guess I'm gonna get eggs and meat and like, I really feel like making veggies, but I'm looking at the cottage cheese. If one has carrageena in it versus the other. Exactly. Whole milk from like, what the fuck? I'm like on my couch for 20 minutes being like, these three supermarkets. I just want a delivery to make it fast because I got work to get done. And these three cottage cheeses, one of them isn't at this supermarket that I'm ordering the rest of shit from. I'm like, what am I doing? And you're at the top end of Whole Foods, right? It's like you're trying to get the best. Like you're already doing enough, right? The. The biggest thing. And like, Coming from my background of like sports and like high end performance from like college or when I was like working with the pros, like when you tell them to do something, they would do it. It wasn't a question of if they're going to do it. What can come up? Like you gave them a plan. It was executed in the athlete sense. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So like when we're working with baseball players, college athletes, like, this is your plan, you're going to do it. Good luck. It's like any strength, conditioning or anything else they're doing in the training, it wasn't a conversation. Like now coming into like gen pop and like the gym and some of my private clients, they're, they're moms, they're like their dads. Like, how can you tell them this is what I'm cooking for my kid, I'm eating it. You know what I mean? Like, there's no if, ands or buts. Like there's a thousand things that pop up and how do I combat and try to change my body composition? So like a lot of the talks we have are prep. So it is that grocery shopping. It is like, all right, I'm cooking this meal for the day. Like, what can I cook on the side that's not going to affect the timeline for cooking for my kids? How can I have a quick snack that I can keep in the house that is good that it doesn't bother me and it's not going to kill my bank account? So like, those are a lot more of the conversation. Like you come from a bodybuilding background. You were on a plan. Like, you know all this information now and like you could still too much. Like, but at the end of the day, like you still have the time and the, like you have your dog. Like you, you put your dog probably in front of everything else. You do. Yeah, like I do, you know, you little. So love him. Like, I'm sure that impacts your whole day schedule. It does. And I'm sure that your food comes secondary to your dog. So like imagine if you had four kids and a wife. You know what I mean? Like that, that's like you're, you go down totem pole. Exactly. Like it's so far down the totem pole. And like these people that come in and they want to see change, like they're working out three, four days a week and they're like, all right, the next step is nutrition. And then like they come in and they're like, all right, I want a one and done con kind of conversation. And I'm. I try to always get across to them, like, this is constant. Like, you need to grow as an individual and like, certain other areas to benefit on this. Like, you need to maybe find some more time at work to be more efficient so you can do more time in this. Maybe it's cutting out XYZ so you can put an extra 15 minutes here. Yeah. So, like, it's not even like as much as like the macros. It's more of just like, habit building. Yeah. And like, that's been the biggest success on, like, the gen pop side for me at least here. But, yeah, it's still ongoing. Every day is like a new challenge. Everybody has a new story. I want to ask you, how has it been? This is going back to our other topic for you specifically. How has it been? Right. Coming out of your masters, grinding through it with everything you did, and now coming into basically owning your own end of the business and, like, managing all those different roles. Like, how has that been for you? Transit the. So when you talked about it before, about, like, having a team, like, I was gonna chime in and say, like, I knew whatever aspect I wanted to do next. Like, I need to surround myself with people that were good in areas I wasn't. So, like, tj, for example, is really good on, like, the creative side. Like, whenever I have something, like, brewing in my head, I, like, pitch it to tj. Like, we kind of crush through that, like, bring it together. And then like, when I feel like, all right, this sounds good, I'm gonna go talk to Tyler now. Like, can Tyler make this real? You know what I mean? Like, so, like, that's. I fell into a really good hole here where they can kind of take what I'm putting out on paper and, like, make it real. But the building, like, my business side and you guys were talking about, like, phone management, that's been my biggest issue so far. Like, I talked to 20 something people every day. I remember seeing him lunch when he started. Just like, I just got a text from Bang, Bing, Bing. It's a picture of a meal, but, like 12 pictures of a meal, everybody's dinners, and he's responding. I'm like, how are you gonna manage? Stressful. It's stressful. It's really tough. And you don't wanna, like, pull back on value. So, like, you wanna make sure that you're blowing these people away with what you're doing. Yeah. So we changed a couple things around. So, like, my phone isn't as Crazy. But, like, January's coming, you know, like, this is kind of busy season. So, like, there's a lot of people coming in right now, so building new systems on, like, how to handle that. And like, we've talked about bringing out new softwares, like, talking about, like, having more group chats, email chains, more people. Yeah. Like, even bringing out other dietitians, like, stuff like that. But if I didn't have a team to bounce it off of, I'm kind of like, I'll figure it out, I'll get it done. But sometimes they're looking at me, they're like, that's wrong. You know, like, that's just wrong. And I'm like, you're right. Like, you're right. That is wrong. So it helps. And that's. That's why, like, I'm happy I'm here. And it's. We've been doing well. Yeah. The biggest add on, I think, to that, like, for Nick specifically, like, he came on and was, like, kind of sprinting. Right. It was like we had a unique opportunity for what he does really well. We tried to fill it with different registered dietitians before, and it just didn't stick. And he fit well with the community, the people, and they latched on. They believed in what he was saying, and they were like, let's work, let's go. So it was like, kid blinked and right. Like, he's. He's working with 20 people. So it's like, we did. We had to, like, all right, man, like, slow it down. Like, try to, like, manage, like, this book that you have right now, I'm. Going to grow into this and I'm going to have this. But it was that he wanted to just create a bunch of value for everyone that was there, give them everything they needed. Yeah, they're text messing their meals. And as he's, like, not even working with them yet, but building into working with them, like, all right, we got to set some boundaries now. Right? Like, now you're just stretching yourself too thin. Like, because I'll even say I probably said it to him first, like, yo, give as much free as you can, right? Just establish some credibility. But the credibility was established quick and. And then everyone's like, all right, I want to say, I want to be with you. I want to be working. I want to be doing something. All right, let's put some process in place to kind of control the value and be able to. So you can actually provide the value now. I feel like even sprint it with. It from our perspective. He's going through kind of well with us, but what we went through a couple of years ago and just like, scheduling, managing the day, having the business, having items to tend to, still making sure the money's there, still making sure the clients are 10. Right. Like, and you are tended to, like, rolling out on the floor. What's going on? Oh, I have this call. Like, there were times when we had, oh, man, this. Like, we see the client pull up in the. We start working out. Wait. Like, we'd have two clients walking. I have a call in a half hour that clients come in. I think I got someone I scheduled for the next half hour too. I'm like, I just crossed over these two things and I forgot this person. Was it because I didn't put it on my schedule. Yeah, okay. All right. I mean, like, even today we have, like, I have. I help out of my high school. Like, I go there and I train, like, the baseball players. I do that for free. Like, I'm just doing. Because. Just helping out. And like, I had like three calls that were like, I can only meet at this time. Yeah. And I'm like, isn't it weird how that always happens? And we're trying to have a holiday. I want you to keep going. But can we all just agree that that always happens? Dude, I could have no shoots for like a week because I'm just focusing on editing and no one's hitting me up for shoots. I'm like, oh, this perfect. I get to just go to my office, edit. It's very low key, this and that. And then all of a sudden, I have one person hit me up. Hey, can I get you for

next Friday afternoon at like, 2: 37:07

00? Sure, sure. And a day later or an hour later, hey, can I get you for

Friday at 3: 37:14

00? It's like, yeah, sure. And it's like, okay, that's a craft. And then you. All of a sudden, you just get. It's hard. You just get more people. And everybody wants to shoot the same day. I'm like, did everyone just wake up. And go, yeah, we're gonna fuck with. Nick on this day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You start to. I almost developed in my head over just like the past six years of, like, training and being in front of people. Like, I think it's almost more than six years now. That's crazy. But every Sunday, if I reach out, I know, like, the clients that are physically locked in every week, the clients that might have one or two variable hours, I know that those are going to be locked in because those are slots that need to happen. And then the clients that are a little more flexible and I'll hit them in the order and wait for those to respond as they go and wave so that there's some type of facilitation there of organization. The weeks planned out. Right. The hours flow correctly. And I'm like, workout, workout, workout. Boom, boom, boom. Here. Right. It's just like all. It's crazy. I think there's something though, being an entrepreneur and a business owner, it's like you just. You make sure you get that done. Yeah. Right. Like you find a way to figure it out. Right. Like you make everyone get it ends up.

Everyone asks for you for 3: 38:19

00 on Friday. Somehow you came out and you did it. Yeah. It's like you just make it work. I had to shoot a profit yesterday. I had somebody asked for me and I literally had to shoot profit for

the last week. And it was 5: 38:27

00 to

7:30, 8: 38:31

00. And literally had somebody hit me up yesterday. Yo, bro, we got this event tonight. Love to have you. Starts at seven. And I'm just like, yeah, that's not gonna work. I'm like, yeah, it's not gonna work. There's also say no to things that aren't the opportunity. Yeah. Like, don't take every. Everything's not your opportunity. I've gotten better at turn shit down. Yeah, there's been a lot of. There's been a lot of saying no. And I'm okay with that. I think like that mental piece a little bit. And, you know, not. I'm not at the stage of my career where I have to jump on every single opportunity anymore. I was just. That's. That's kind of the theme that you were kind of saying. Right. With him that we saw in the first couple years. And that's. I applaud everyone for being there at this table today. Right where in the beginning it's like that, that hose is open. Like, I'm going to take everything that comes in. I'm going to make every one on one or every session, any client I can get right. I'm going to take that. Then you get to a point where it's all right. If I actually want to have a real business here and a product, I gotta say no to some of these things and be able to map them out and make sure I have a good schedule and plan for these things. So there is a second, like a second phase of business that goes from like taking every Opportunity you can get just to show people you are. You're like, you're in the space. You're valuable. You can. You can give them something to. All right, now, I do have value. I have intrinsic value. You can see it. That's why you're coming to me. And now you're going to kind of schedule when I can get you there. It's tough when you see. When you see the money and you just go, ah, fuck. I can squeeze that in. Yeah, I can squeeze that. Make it happen. Thousand. Yeah. Yeah. That's like trying to get. I mean, these calls tonight are people, like, intros. Yeah. Like, these are like. Yeah, onboarding. Onboarding. New people. And we're trying to go off like a holiday dinner to his family restaurant. Shout out. Piccolo. Yeah. Piccolo and Belmore. Yeah. Oh, sick. Yeah. Shouts. Do it. We should do a Piccolo cast. His dad's all over social media. We got to pull him up at one point on this podcast. Do a Piccolo cast, bro. Let's go down there, bro. You can come down whenever you want. Set the mics up. That would be. That would be incredible. You know, hold a meal, podcast a meal for me. What is the steakhouse in New Hyde Park? Oh, I know you're talking about. Yep. Peter Luger. Yeah. Luger wanted me to do a podcast. I was just like, all right, I'll do a fucking Luger cast. Hey, now, really cool. Just like, hang out. Everybody just eating steaks and shit. Yeah. We should leave it and keep one. One mic open and just let random people sit down. The personalities you see at that place are unbelievable. Like, there's so many stories that just like, crazy things like that didn't happen here. And you're like, oh, no, it did. It definitely did. But as you're saying, the baseball team, that's how we got derailed. Yeah. So, like, we talked before. Like, I have two people that are telehealth. They're not in the state. Like, very rigid schedule, high end athletes that I'm trying to onboard and coming to the holidays. I'm booked out most of the week, and I'm like, this is my only really time that's free. And I usually go help out the team. And now it's right after the team. I was gonna drive from West Isa to Belmore, and that was gonna be kind of a stretch. Now I'm gonna go, all right, I'm cutting out the training. I'm gonna take the meeting in the restaurant. I hope the meeting doesn't go longer. Like, a little longer. Than it should. So tj, Tyler and Osi are gonna be sitting there eating their appetizers without me trying to. He's gonna be like this. He's gonna be like, yeah, yeah. So you want to do the grilled chicken? Yeah. The Mac and cheese. But I mean, that's. I'll be fork feed. Yeah, yeah. That's really like what it's going to be. And I don't know, I think that's fun. Like a little airplane. I think that's fun. Like that's a challenge. Like, I do kind of feel bad that I can't get over there tonight, but I'm trying to get a couple of my other boys to kind of get over there and train. I don't know. I enjoy that. Like, I enjoy being busy. But like we were saying before, like, if I'm not bringing the same value as I was on my first 10. Yeah. Then I can't do the next 10, then what's the point? Yeah. When I was very, I was very close to John Meadows before he passed. Are you familiar with John Meadows? Yeah. So I was very close with John. And I remember we were eating breakfast one day and he told me that at his peak of online coaching in the bodybuilding world, he had something like, I think 150 athletes that he was working with. Yeah. I mean, he said he was raking in. Yeah. It was like north of over 100 grand, easy. Like that's. He was making so much money, but per month. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he just said my quality of life was horrific. Yeah. And I just couldn't do anything. It was pictures of meals, questions, ounces to grams. Like all these different things that he was getting that were just taking away from like the thought of. I can handle all this because I can give the plan, do the check ins, you know, here and there. They'll have questions or I'll be able to be accessible. But it's like when you talk about being a business owner and an entrepreneur, especially how accessible is too accessible. Yeah. That's what it becomes too. Yeah. And I've. I have this problem. Saturday, I was checked out. I was checked out. I didn't want anything to do with my phone. I just didn't want anything to do with anybody. I was just like, you need that? I'm so fucking good. Like, I just, I hit a couple buddies up to do something Friday night. I'm like, let's just do something. And just like nobody was getting back to me. It was like my, One of my boys Answered. And then I answered him immediately because my phone was in my hand and he didn't answer me for like, what the hell, dude? You were just disappear. You were there. You just. Brother, you were just there. Like, where'd you go? Yeah, what are you fending off an attack? So I. So, like, after sitting there, I even hit a marina and I was like, marina, what are you up to? She answered me. I answered her right back. She didn't fucking answer me. So I'm just like, yo. It was just like a. This was like a sign that was right. I'd be throwing my phone. Yeah, I'm just gonna ignore you from now on. For sure. I'll show up at your house. So I literally. I just looked at my phone and I just went. And I'm over this. I shut my phone off. I was like, done with it. Yeah. I told my mom. I said, mom, I'm on my other phone. I said on my other phone, if you need me, call me there. No social media, nothing on the other phone. And I'll tell you what, man, it felt really nice. Yeah. And I think a lot of the anxiousness as business owners, the itch to check your phone to see if you have any messages. Is it money on the line? Did I miss an opportunity? Because, listen, opportunities move fast. So, you know, we kind of. You. I forget which one he said it, but, like, you have to just. You said execute. I literally just did a podcast episode about that. I did a solo 15 minute episode in my apartment. And I just literally said, there have been plenty of times where I had a great idea for a podcast, for a YouTube video for something. And I'm just like, okay, well, I should go to this location or I should have this lighting or I should do this and that. But then let's just say, because theoretically, no. No idea is usually unique. Somebody else puts the message out before me. Yep. And they did it with their fucking cell phone. And I'm sitting over here sweating over the details and the little things that don't really matter. They do, but they don't. So you. Sometimes you just gotta execute. So there's that side of it where you don't want the opportunities to pass you by. You don't want your clients to feel like you're ignoring them. Oh. And then, you know, you have those limiting beliefs come in. Oh, they're gonna go somewhere else, or maybe they're gonna cancel the monthly or this and that. And you start having these. These different thoughts. You have to kind of just back up and Be like, yo bro, everyone's got a life. Yep, everyone's got a life. If I'm not accessible for a day or two or I'm not answering somebody back immediately, it's okay to block your time off and just say, even if you respond to the client, I have a client that's a little bit more handholdy, like constantly. It's like every time I'm on the phone, it's a 40 minute conversation. Yeah. I mean you're also the creator too, so you're bringing their vision probably to life. There's certain ins and outs of things that certain people need. But at what point is it like ah, between texts and suggestions and calls and then shoots, post production now you're kind of just like, like this person will message me and I'll just be like, hey, yeah, I'm not gonna be around for a couple hours. You just gotta like, yeah, yeah, yeah, give me some time. Yeah. Cause you have to you, otherwise you hit that wall and the wall comes quick. You don't see it coming all the time, but the wall comes quick. And then you just, just then you just, you're just burnt out from everything. Totally. Yeah. But you set the expectation. If you actually say that to the client, which is good. I definitely find myself in a tough spot. I feel like we talked about it a bunch, like from home and an email comes in a DM or someone that's trying to train, there's almost a zero percent chance I'm not going to send something back. That's the thing, right? Like see it and now you need to respond. Yeah, right. Like you said, opportunities, they, and especially in fitness, like people make a decision, they either don't work out or they work out somewhere. Right. So if you're now making decisions, you want to come work out with us, you have to get. Someone has to get you into that gym. Right. Or you're either going to go somewhere else or you're just not going to work out. Right. That's kind of just. It does, it moves fast. So. But even trying to kind of set that kind of those guidelines for myself of like, that's probably not that important of an email or a message when it's not an opportunity, because an opportunity, it's very hard for you to miss. But like when it's not that, it's just someone saying something about the business. Right. That could have waited a couple hours, you gotta like kind of let that sit sometimes. Right. Like I find myself like at the dinner table, like I feel a buzz And I'm like, well, that's the thing. You get that impulsive feeling to just constantly check. And that's. That goes hand in hand with our addiction to the actual technology itself. You know, somebody. I can't coin the phrase because it's not mine, but somebody coined the phrase anxiety boxes. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, these things can. These things can do amazing things, make you a lot of money, you know, do a lot of great things. But the flip side, though is that. But they're designed to distract us in a lot of ways. And unfortunately, we're not smarter than the algorithms. So even though I say I don't want to scroll, even though I say I don't want to open. Yeah. You have to figure it out. It's like a drug addict. I know. We've all been there. You'll open the phone without any need to open the phone. There's been no message. There's been nothing. You'll open the phone and you'll instantly click Instagram or you'll instantly click whatever app is the one that you consistently use on a regular basis. And it's just like, why am I in here? Yeah. How did I get here? I think the funniest is like when you. When you do the Rizzler. Yeah. Yes. Why am I watching a chubby child rub his face. I'm sorry. Maybe offer him coaching. Get him. Get that jawline real crazy and chiseled. When you swipe out of the app and then you end up. You end up back in that app and you're like, how the fuck did I end up here? Yes. Yeah, like that, definitely. Have you ever seen what the social. Social experiment now? Oh, actually I have. It's like kind of breaks down. It's really. It's like. I don't know if they say it, but like even just like the notification, right, they built that in so that you could see that red. That red bubble, right? Say number one and you look at your phone like, oh, shit, there's something there I have to go look at right now. Must be important, right? Just. They're in your head. Yeah, we there. I don't know if I've seen Hormozi post it, but also Eddie actually from fount originally when I had the conversation, he was talking about managing stress. Founds like a massive company. They work with big, high end individuals. They were doing like big lifestyle protocols. Whatever. Spoke to one of their guys in their department that works hand in hand with like basically building people's protocols and doing assessments and whatnot he did like a model one for me and mocked it. And he was like, well, how do you manage stress, worry? I'm like, I'm an introverted person. Is this, this, that, the third? He's like itching his neck. He's like, what do you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm like going through this stuff with him, you know? And he's like, you know, if there's these values in your blood work, sometimes we see this, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. This could be higher. And he's like, how do you manage your stress? And he's like, maybe take a deep breath. I'll show you the breathing technique. But he's like, at night, blue light be exposed. Don't be as addictive with anything. He's like, I forgot if I set it or if it's a function of the phone. If you triple click the power button. I don't know if I did it on my phone myself. Did I call the cops right now? Yeah, right. It turns it to black and white. So black and white the phone. And it's something that you can use. Charge my pay for a year membership. Well, that's crazy. Nutrition too. Should triple click. I already got my meal plan. It's like this. Right. Doesn't put like a parental guide. Yes. Because it makes it turn black and white. It's true though. So it takes the color off. If you guys can see, that takes the color off. I did it by mistake once and I have my blue lights on and I was like, what the is happening. When you say blue glasses? Yeah, like very orange hued, like amber hued blue light glasses. So I just got these glasses and I want, I want you to continue. Yeah, yeah, go for it. We're on the point. Are those. Those are prescription or not prescription? They are. Okay. Yeah, I was, I was finding that I got a prescription years ago and it was good. Yeah. But I needed it to tweak a little bit. I like just up a little bit. And I got another. An updated prescription probably a year and a half, two years ago. And those just. You ever. You ever get glasses? I don't know if you guys wear glasses. You wear glasses? No. None of you? Goddamn. I might need a pair. Hopefully somebody is listening. Hey, I know you're saying, Nick, I got the updated prescription and it was just a little off. I always wore the old glasses. Is it for like all the time you were glasses? Is it farsight? Near sight, like it's farsight. It just it basically. Tyler. Yeah, right. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He's gorgeous. I've never seen this whole time. Yeah. Wait a minute. Yeah. Oh, I need glasses. Yeah. Nick. So I. He's feeling his face. So I. So I would just constantly switch back and forth between the glasses. Back and forth, back and forth. Finally I realized the last glasses that I got, it's just so weird. There's like intricacies in like every single body function and whatnot. The last glasses I got, I got them from Warby Parker in the mall. Because you just give them your prescription and they just. They make the glasses for you. Yeah. They never asked me pupillary distance. So where are the eyes gonna sit with where the. Interesting. Yeah, so they never asked me that. I think that those lenses were just always off. Interesting. I ordered these. The reason I'm saying this is because I just ordered these from Roka and I wanted to get something that was just a little bit more like clear. I always do black frames. I said something that's like smoky clear. I thought these were cool. And I wanted bigger frames because I feel like even though smaller frames, I feel like I'm just like looking through the window and then everything's blurry around it. So I feel like these, which is like a little bit larger lens shape are better. But as I'm looking, they have Andrew Huberman Amber nighttime glasses on Roka. And it's pretty sick because I'm very interested. You can actually get your prescription in that. That's cool. That's this way I could actually rock things too. Yeah. To be able to do things, because I'm not blind. But let's be honest, it's like going from standard definition to hd. That's what it feels like. It's like a little clarity. But like here, like at night, it gets there. I'm sure you're staring at your screens at all times. That's the problem. Breaking down. So I'm telling you, when I used to a lot of work and then I play games or whatever on my computer for like hours, whether it's school. And my eyes would just turn out like, burn. And I got the like blue light glasses and I was flying through it. And then like when you take off, when you take off your glass, you go to bed. Like it's not like a three hour kind of like wind out. You don't realize it. Yeah, we play. I mean, we're still like hopping on Black Ops 6 a little bit. At night together, hanging out. Bro. Are you on PS5? No, one. Let's do it. It's okay. Don't worry about it. You guys have your. All right, now. I got kids. Come on. Crazy. Tyler's just never played a video game. That's my buddy from Jujitsu who said the same thing. We're all talking about black ops. And I just. I go, do you play? He goes, I have a family. Yeah. Still playing. Like, I have. I'm still playing. That's it. I'm still playing. But you find your time. We're like the room. We're like, on. And I remember. I mean, I'm putting them on. It's bad. When you tilt the glasses down, I take, like, rub my eyes some and I see the screen after having them on. So these are like, these. I basically have blue light filter. I got that as a. The reason I didn't originally is because these tint green. Okay. Blue light filtering. Tints green spectrum. You can't notice it. Interesting. Just in general, but when you're color grading footage. Oh, yeah. You're like, neat. Yeah. You start looking and you go, oh, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah. So I didn't get them in my last pair, but I'm glad I got them in this because I said, you know what? I just want to filter the blue light out. But you're saying you play with the amber glasses. I play with the amber glasses. I'm used to it. Because your eyes actually adapt weird. Like, you're looking at it first and then you see the colors. If you're watching. Watching a movie. I do it almost every night. If I'm watching a movie, if I'm doing whatever. And it starts to be, like, really weird at first. And then the eyes adapt and then. Like, say the colors. You're well worth the investment. Screen. I think a hundred. I feel like I spent like a hundred bucks. And like, I remember, like, going to store, like, I can't believe I'm about to buy this. Yeah. They're really believe I'm gonna do it. And, like, the sensitivities. Yeah. My cousin told me. He's like, you had to buy. You gotta buy. You. But I'm like, whatever. So I get it. And I was like, this is not the worst hundred dollars I've ever spent. I should have brought. I was happy with. It's a huge difference. I mean, like, my eyes, like, I'll know that that's. That's blue while I have the glasses on. Some colors are very different. They adapt and kind of. They tint different a lot. Well, it's orange. Yeah, but like, but there's still the shades. Brain can start to recognize and adapt. Like the orange tint, the hot, like if you wear them for more than 10 minutes, you know what I'm saying? And it's not like where you're playing is that color sensitive? No, no, no. Like so it's like it's fine and halo is. It's not like outlines your enemies, does it? Yeah, like that would be some of the stuff. But. But also like the research has shown that like right. Like the blue light before bed, like knocking that out is going to completely change your sleep totally. Right. So like I need to get on that because my sleep is either hit or miss. And every time it really is great. It's because I didn't use any electronics. I put them all in my kitchen and I read, dude. I read for 10, 15 minutes before I go to bed. I'm out. Knocks you out, really out. That's bringing you back down. I mean I found like when I had time and I, I mean I had blue light. I did have blue light lenses that were like that, like very clear but filtered out. The light filtered but totally different than the amber ones. Like the dark orange amber ones I used to like, literally like while you're playing Call of Duty, you're hanging out, whatever, you're in the match, right. Your adrenaline's going up. It's like you're moving, you're competitive, you're doing stuff. And then like trying to go to bed after like 5, 10, 20 minutes after, like I'm not fully back down yet. Now it's much easier with the amber lenses. Even though I was wearing the somewhat clear blue light glasses prior. It's really, really interesting. I feel like when I wear blue light glasses at night, regardless, like I'm way more tired. Yeah, your eyes, like it's actually like because you're getting into that, into that state quicker. Right. Than if you were trying then if you were playing, watching something, watched movie or even reading without. Eyes are light just on, right. It's keeping you more alert. It starts to bring you down and kind of ready for bed. I'm super drowsy, like trying to go to bed if I'm wearing. It's like, you know when you're over tired or you're on a road trip for a while and you get that zing of adrenaline and you know you're tired, your eyes feel stale, but you're like this and you can't blink. That's what it feels like. Without the blue light or with like the light tinted. Yeah, right. The whole time. And then even after you're like, I can't. Like, I'm good. Like, I need to go work out right now or something. With those glasses, it's like you're normal the whole time. That's one of the brutal things about working out super late and then playing Call of Duty on top of. So, like, I'll do fight or flight. Ready for fucking level. I don't mean shot, bro. That's why I see things. I'm just like, whatever. I'm just so. I'm so neutral. Zero excitement. It's because, like, I'll go to Jiu Jitsu

6:30, 7: 57:39

30. Or do the wrestling class if I have the. If my mom's watching the dog. That's even worse because you're. You're literally turned up fighter flag. Fighting other people. Yes. Cortisol, super high. You're going. Yeah. Yeah. You're actually fighting. Yeah. So that's. Yeah, there's no flight. You're not just working out and challenging the weights. You're fighting somebody. I'm fighting for my life. Life on the mats. And so. But that's the problem. If you didn't play, like, games and you went home, ate dinner, showered, like, how long does it take you to go to bed? I've never done it. Really? I don't know. Yeah, you should try it. It's not a matter of not playing games. It's a matter of. I know, but you have something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel like that is. That is a tough question. I don't think, like, any. Like, I. I couldn't tell you the last time I just went. Went home, ate dinner and went to bed. Yeah. No, right. Like, I mean, I've done. Because I have to figure out there is. There is a, like, a missing link. Well, the kids, I mean. Yeah, we're going to cover. Yeah. Not okay. I mean, I usually get home, like, at. At dinner time or a little bit after, depending on. Well, if I have a bath, books. You know, like, if I'm

like, I'm training, like Josh, for example, I'm getting home like, 8:15, 8: 58:41

30. I'm in bed by that around that time, like, we're the whole like, fiance pups ready to go to bed. He's looking at me like, fucking go. I'll be

playing on like a Friday at 8: 58:52

15. And he's asleep, like, laying in the bed like, fuck you, dude. Like, I'm. It's my bedtime. Right? Yeah, it's rough. That's it. But it's rough schedule. But like, what was I gonna say? I was going somewhere before with the whole adrenaline thing. I lost my train of thought. So like going back to that, like that question, like, my girlfriend was away a couple weeks ago, my parents had the dog, There was no one in the house, trained. I went home, I ate and I was in bed. And I am never in bed before

11 o'clock. And I was in bed at like 8: 59:22

30, out by 10. Woke up the next morning was like, oh, this is what it's supposed to be like. Like I like. And I'm like, I'm like, my back doesn't hurt that bad today. Like I feel like pretty good. I can do this every day. Yeah. I was like, whoa, dude, it's, it's. You say you're back. Like, you know, could be saying it, whatever. Yeah, whatever. But like feel like, like pains, aches, recovery. People don't know what it's like to get a real night of sleep. I mean look at like, look at the table. You got like four people to sleep that prioritize it, talk about it, educated it. And we don't do it. Exactly. Don't do it. Like I like, I try to get to like, I will not like I've been like the other you actually text me Friday. He's like, yo, call duty quick. I'm like,

yeah, could. It's like. And then I look at my phone, but it's like 7: 1:00:08

57 and I'm like, I'm, I'm tired. Like I know that it's just gonna be a bad choice to get on and yeah, I'm a little extreme but like I'm gonna

be playing till 10: 1:00:18

00. Yeah. Well, I'm like, you get a couple warm up matches in. Okay, now we're on a little bit of a streak right now. Oh, you want switch to Zombies? That's it. Okay, so it's like Zombies takes nine hours to play one match. I'm just going to bed. Like, screw that. Like I can't. I know that I'm gonna wake up feeling like shit. And like when I was living in Florida for a while, like doing grad school, then like working down there, like, and I used to block out like an hour. This is like when I would jump on my computer and I would talk to my friends. I was like the only time I would be able to talk to my friends when I was home. And like quality time. Yeah. So you get an hour. You get a group of like two or three guys, like, just BSing. And then like, you're like, all right, I'm gonna go. And then somebody joins in. It's like, I haven't talked to you in six months. Oh, and then they egg you on. Come on, bro, one more, one more. But I mean, it's just like that social aspect. And, like, I don't go out as much. Like, I'm not going to see my friends all the time. Like, like, I prioritize that. And, like, if I don't get that, maybe I'm not playing games, but maybe I'm just in discord and I'm doing work. Just, like, BSing with my friends. Like, that's a big part of my life. And if I don't get that, I struggle. Like, if I'm not talking to somebody or, like, seeing people, like, that's a big part of my life that I really do prioritize. Yeah, social wellness is a thing, man. Yeah, we've talked. Need connection. Yeah, that's. And that's part of the problem. I said this with Francesca when I did the podcast with her the other day. You know, the unfortunate side of technology and just living in this modern age is that friends that you would normally get together with and do something with, you don't do that anymore. You send it, you know, and this isn't to say, per se, all of us, but a text will get sent, a 5 minute FaceTime call will be sent. And although that's a way to reach out and check in on one another, it's not. It really isn't. And it doesn't scratch that. That itch for interpersonal, like, communication and being with one another and doing all this stuff, it just. It kind of just puts a band aid over it. It, like, fixes it. It's like, oh, well, I spoke to him yesterday. It's like, yeah, but you didn't do anything. Yeah, that's not to say you have to do something every single time, but. Whereas we used to prioritize, oh, hey, honey, I'm going to X. I'm going to so and so's house to go hang out for a bit. Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna. We're gonna go to the local restaurant, just grab a bite. We're gonna go. We're gonna grab a beer. We're to go get a workout in this and that. It's just like everyone. I don't know if it's just everyone just throwing their hands up and allowing their crazy schedules and Lives to just take over. Take over and affect it and just go like. And this. This is like, literally no dig at you. It really isn't. But I hear that all the time with, like, I have kids. I can't. I can't do, you know xyz, not necessarily Call of Duty or I have a family. It's just like. Yeah, but like, people for years did shit. They did. They did shit. So it's like, at what point, like, not necessarily every night, but they did go out. They didn't have another option to. Because there was no technological option to go online for an hour. They had to go out and do things. Think about, like, the group chat you probably have with your closest friends. I don't have any group chats. I. No one invites me in them anymore because I stopped answering. And I'm just like, don't invite me. I can pull up. I can pull up. Like, I don't have it. I can pull up. I can pull up. Angie's my friend. I can pull up a group chat I got with some of my boys. And, like, there's a lot of conversation in that. Right. And things that happen. But. But there may not be the aria. We're gonna get together this Saturday because I just talk to you every day. Right. Or like, I'm just like, in your. In your kind of proximity. Yeah. Your technological. Whatever circle web. It's like a technical. You don't actually. You don't actually see these people. Right. So. Right. It's an easy scapegoat. Just be like, nah, I sent you a text the other day. We're good. Or I saw you post something. Yeah, I liked your Instagram post. Like, how many times. I'm sure for like, that perfect examples, like, back in the day, like, be like, let's go live. You know, like, you know, like, even, like that hour of your day that you used to just be like, this was an everyday thing. Like, there would be a new friend every day. Like, it was just kind of a time to be like, all right, we were not doing something, but, like, let's just go lift, bro. I used to have training partners. Exactly. I used to have training partners. We used to. Either. I had. I had, like, a cycle of training partners. I had when I was like, 2014. Ish. I had my buddy Jay at the time. Then, like, 2016 to 2018, I had my buddy Cody, like, everybody. And even before Cody, I was with my boys Jack. And every fucking day, without fail, we show up. Either it was at night or is in the morning we just got together every day. Yeah. So it was like always. And that's what I'm talking about. It's like, that's the type of connection that we all want. And unfortunately, because of the ease of technology, it's given us an easier way to touch base with each other, but not, like, actually be together. Yeah. Not genuine connection. Yeah, it sucks, bro. And unfortunately, that has leached into. You know, fortunately for you guys, you guys all are with significant others. But, like, that's unfortunately how it has leached into the dating pool. Yeah. And no, it's fucking exhausting out here. I don't even. I do. No, it is exhausting because I've had better conversations. This here desk, I had with a lot of the women that I've talked to lately. This desk pays the bills, baby. I mean, this is what keeps steady. It's hard. Hey, now, this desk been around for a minute, man. Me and my old buddy John, we got this at ikea, and we put this together for our original podcast, the Voice and Rizzles. Should I be touching this desk? You could touch it. Okay. That side. But no. He'S like, that's why you put Nick there. Touch the chair. Don't touch the desk. Not the chair, the table. But anyway, listen, we're getting off topic. No. So back to his dating life, everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Let's think about Nicki Rizzle Dating. What's the problem? Well, there is no dating. That's the problem. What's the cycle? We got the apps. What are we doing? Just delete the apps. But I think that's hard. So I don't know if I was a single person and working. How the hell do you. How do you talk? How you meet with people if you're not on the apps? You got to be a connect. Like, I got to throw you someone then. Well, I mean, I got to introduce you to a friend. The issue is you're. You're. You're a guy. And unless you're paying to play. Yeah. Which is also. There's no way I would get a premium subscription. It's seriously like prostitution. It really is. Like, you got to pay to have girls, like, talk to you. It's fucking insane. It's so insane. It really. I guess you gotta do it if you go out. No, no, we saved them. I had this conversation. One of my good friends, he was about my boys. Drinks all night. You got to prove to me. Okay, real quick. I had this girl in Nashville. I had this girl in Nashville. I was there for My. For my birthday weekend, I had two of my buddies with me. Yo, what do you like? Literally, this type of group. What do you need? What do you need? Like, every time someone would go to the bar, what do you need? What do you need? Cool. Next, dude, we'll go, what do you need? What do you need? We hang out with these girls from California, and this girl's, like, literally, like, sitting on my lap. She's like, just, like, leaning against me at the bar, like, whatever. But she's not progressing things. Like, we're not. I'll stand up. I'll start dancing. Me and the boys are having fun, like, whatever. And she's not being interactive, is she. Talk, like, having conversation? No, she's shot. She's shot. She was new. She's fucking California. So she's literally going. She literally goes like this. Ready? She was like this. I go to. I go to my boy. I go, yo, what do you need? Like, you know, just so and so he goes, oh, when you go back up, grab whatever he asked me for. Tito's or whatever. I said, okay, cool. I'm sitting there and a couple minutes go by, and then she goes like this to me. I swear, she goes like this. Oh, and shakes her empty drink that I did not buy her in my face. So I looked her, and I went, you homeless? Looking for change over here. And she just goes, oh, well, I just. Oh. I was like, you assumed that I was just gonna buy you a drink? Cause you're gracing me with your presence. I said, no, no, no, no. I said, my homies, I'll buy them drinks all night because they're the homies. She said, you haven't done anything. I don't need you to make out with me. I don't need you to do any of that. Just, like, trying to be a good time. Yeah, yeah. Be a person. Be interactive, conversational. And then she. And then she was, like, offended because I spit logic at her. She was very offended by that. And then she just still stayed in the same area. But now she was intentionally looking at, like, other guys. She was sure. She kept going to her friend. She's like, oh, that guy. And I went, let me introduce you. Not my girl, my girl. I don't care. I got no attention. Nice guy. Yeah, Go shake your drink out. He's a handsome dude. Go for it. Yeah, shake him. Here's a nickel. Come here, buddy. Let me give you the rundown first. Yeah. I don't know why we got on that, but. No, no, I. That made My day. Yeah. I don't know why we got. How did I segue on that? I see you saying this girl, what are you homeless? Yeah, I said, I literally said. I was like, what are you hysterical. In the middle of a bar? Like, whatever. So you looking for change? What's going on over here? I was like, what's the expectation here? Oh, so dating, that's how we got on this? Yeah, that's how we got on this. And spending money on the girls. Yeah. The problem is everyone's so buried in their phone and you watch a lot of podcasts and you see a lot of. Of like the. It's tough because some of these podcasts where you see the guys, the hosts, you know, like fresh and fit, or you see these other guys, whatever podcast, you ever see those guys, I'm sure you've probably seen clips of just the girls just acting like nut jobs. And that's the problem. The problem is they invite these girls that do, like only fans and all these things with the intention of like proving them wrong. Yeah. And then, you know, everyone's like, no, that's not all the other girls stick up for the girl that they're. It's. It's just like this round robin of just. The girls don't understand or want to or learn from it. The guys look like. Because they're just like forcing this. Like, this is how it is and you just don't want to understand it. And then everyone just on the Internet just either is like in one corner or the other corner. So the problem is, and one of the true things that you find out from a lot of these podcasts, not find out. You know this as a man, an average looking girl gets a ton of play on Instagram, a ton of play on social media. Way more than a very handsome guy would get, message wise especially. So it's like you have an average girl that gets, let's say, three times the messages or three times the courtship, potentially potential just for existing on social. And you have a really, really handsome dude who maybe gets a couple here and there. You know, it's not as frequent. Now the apps extrapolate that. Yeah, the apps. Interesting. The apps basically show all the super hot girls to everybody, but now she's got hundreds and hundreds of likes coming up. So I don't know about you guys, but if I was a girl, I'd be fucking exhausted by that every single day. Like, although it's an ego snack and you feel like a validation in your looks and that I'm worth Something. And it's like. Well, for you to filter through all. That, for you, it's like a hopeful, somewhat genuine something coming out. I'm trying to do. I'm trying to. But on her end, on some other end, there could be girls. You're like, oh, these three could be ones I want to talk to. But then 750. 750 guys in front of me. You're like, in front of me. But, like, you don't see that perspective. You're like, okay, whatever. I'm just going to hang out. Maybe we'll match. Maybe. It was different when the dating apps first came out. Yeah. And it wasn't necessarily the interesting. And because there was a lot of guys that just kept swiping right no matter what. They would just swipe right to just get connected. My boys in college used to do it. It was crazy. Yeah. They would just the entire time, swipe. That would be more. They create swipe limits unless you pay. So you, like, 10 swipes a day? I'm like, yeah, I'm good on this. I'm so. I'm so over it. But the problem is, it's like, I look like. I look like the psycho. Because, like, I'll. I'll get bored and I'll redownload it. And it's like, oh, there's Nick again. Like, areas. Either he's. He's back. Yeah. Either he's back to the fold. Like, he's really doing bad with the ladies, and it's like, he has a girlfriend, and now he's single. He has a girlfriend. That's probably what they think. And it's just. You're just like this. You're just like, nick's watching Lord of. The Rings, bored as shit. He's just like, yeah, Legolas is about to snipe another orc. Like, all right, whatever. It's not a big deal. So we're gonna. You were gonna. He was gonna say. I was just saying, like, I was having a conversation with my boys the other day, and he was. He was like, dude, I don't know what I'm doing. And he was like, I can't find a girlfriend. And I was looking at him. I was like, what do you got? Once a week, you spend an hour, like, going to a bar, like, trying to find love. I was like, you got to do more than that. I was like, I don't know what else. The more is, I guess. I was like, but the apps are, like, the first step I take. And then I'm like, what other option. Like what? Like what are they supposed to do, brother. Wilder Beasts. It's bad on there. I'm. That's a. I'm just. I'm just letting you know if you're playing that you're looking, then at least go out there and do it. Yeah. You gotta find a way. Yeah. Where. But where am I gonna go? That's what I'm just said. There's a thousand ways on apps. At least try. I've done and I know. I know how to find the one. I know that I found love on those apps. So. Godspeed. I think it's gonna be me. Gyms and libraries, you know, I don't know. Maybe gyms are good. Yeah. I feel like they're also like a sign at eight. Well, yeah. Right. You want. You're right here in town. Local picture. You're a good looking dude with the glasses. I think it's even better. Is it what? Yeah. Frames, right? It's the frames. Frames good. Excited about these. A lot of money I spent. It was a Black Friday deal. So. Shout out. Roca. Send the check. Yeah. Did they ever send the check? What we said? Yeah, we said fitted. Nope. Send the check. They didn't send it. Did you guys tag them? Sent you. Maybe I've been our first problem. Yeah. Didn't tag them. I'm over here. I'm over here. Never saw it. I'm over here. Giving you guys layups from. Yeah, yeah. Don't fucking tag them. You thought the check came in. I thought the check came. Please give it. This guy does professional shoot for company. I mean, give something. I don't even know what I do anymore. I do something. I'm still trying to figure out what I do. Who the hell are you? I don't know, man. I want to get into the side of. And I want to be also respectful of your guys. Sure, sure. Because I. Dude, I could let this roll forever. It's a very different podcast than a lot other ones. They just try to like segment it out for a stand amount of time. We're along for the ride here. I want to talk about just like what it was like opening up the gym and getting into that side of things. Because like other people looking into especially opening gyms. I have a couple friends, my buddy Sam, opening up a spot down in North Carolina, the rally area. She's opening one up down there. And obviously I know a lot of Sam Siegel. Yes. I played ball when I'm a queen's. He's the homie. He's been on the podcast too. Yeah, he's good people, man. He's good. Yeah. But you know, he's. He's opening up a gym over there and he's concerned. He has voiced some of his concerns to me. What kind of gym is it gonna be? Do you know? It's gonna be like a yours OG. Looks like a class training, like, kind of aspect. Did you show me, did you show me his profile? Oh, you did? I was like this kid. I played ball at Sam for a year. Like, I'm not going to say we're like best friends, but similar. I was like, he looks like he's crushing. Looks like he went down there, just opened up his stuff, like just threw it all the table and I mean, it's just from Instagram. I, like, I haven't talked him in years. It's tough, man. You guys get it? It's tough. It's tough to keep it. Listen, to start off, create an established name, keep the lights on. No, that's it. I mean, if we did it in the town that we had already substantiated business, that's the easiest way to go about it to build rapport and branding. Unless you have a little bit of a cushion of money to work with, I think, like, don't open a gym if you want to make a ton of money. And if you don't want to be pinned to the hour, don't open a fucking gym. Forget about it, right? Try to build something else. Try to go in other avenue business. There's also the thing, another Hormozi thing that we list. I listen to a lot of him upon opening because Alex Hormozi gives a lot of good, great details from his original back in the JGM launch kind of tips, tricks, whatever, but. But it's like if you can sell in the gym and you can make a profitable gym, he's like, you probably shouldn't be in the fitness space. Just get out of the fitness space because you'll make ten times more money at least. Because the volume is different, the type of people in the business is different, right? Because this is just people to people. You're caring about people. You're pinned to the hour. People are physically coming to you for quality and you're the brand and the product. But going back to that topic of what is it like opening a gym? I think like, glad that we went small to start. Start the brand small, start the physical space small. Like low. As low as you can get, right? North Shore Village here, high end in Huntington. Rents aren't crazy low or anything, but start as reasonable as you can start because it gets up on you quick. When you see the dollars slowly coming into the bank account, but quickly coming out of the bank account. Quickly to come out of the bank account, man. It can affect. Because you're not just, not just a cold transactional business, it can affect your Persona in the business. You still have to take care of people, be yourself, be positive, be uplifting, be in there at 5am, be out there at 8 plus pm and now your bank account's being drained by a crazy high overhead. A 20,000 square foot spot that you thought was a dream. Like, forget about the dream, get fucking real about it and actually put your play on the ground and test who you are in the industry and really test your balls to see how many hours, how much work you can put in to grow a brand. And then once you're confident, go on and, go on and fulfill parts of your dream. I think, yeah, big part of it was kind of opening a gym, I think is every trainer's ideal, right. And their, their dream. Well, they believe it's gonna be the end goal, right? Yeah. Once I get that, then I'll be. The business, business owner. And it's a lot more stress than it may be to just be a trainer. Right. Because the overhead, that kind of comes with it. So a big thing that we did was kind of just know your numbers, right? Like what do we actually need to be successful here? How many members do we need? What are we going to do outside of that to create other revenue streams. That was kind of always a part of it. What's our base overhead going to be? Right? How profitable can we be in year one? How profitable can we be in year two? How fast can we pay off our debt? And that was kind of it. It was all right. We know that we need to pay off this financing for our equipment. We got to pay off our financing for this build out. We need to do that immediately if you want to be able to take home a check. Right. So figure out anyway putting everything back into it and knowing that yet again it's fitness. It's not. If you, if you open a small studio, it's not going to be the most scalable business. Right. You need to get people into that space. You have to be there for that hour in order for you to make money. Right. Like that's not, that's not a scalable model essentially. Right. So you have to build other revenue streams off of that other kind of other of our Other offers for them, right. Bring in, you got to bring in nutrition, you got to have other things that you're doing there to be able to kind of deliver more value in order to make actual, some actual revenue there. But if you're passionate about the industry and you believe that's what you want to do, know that it's going to be hard, right. Know that there's competition in the market. You got to differentiate yourself in a way, right? So what is it? What's your differentiator going to be? Is it going to be the number of people in those in that class, the quality, the kind of workout that you're doing? If you're going to open an F45 competitor, F45 is going to crush you, right? They have more money than you. You're going to, you're going to go against orange theory. They're going to crush you. They have more money than you. Marketing dollars. Yeah, you got to like, you got to be grassroots. You got to be in that community. The community has to trust you. They have to believe that you're the place that they want, they want to come to. Right. Change their lives. They're going to. They got to be able to tell their friends, hopefully bring a kid to do something as well. And you got to be able to kind of latch onto a community and show your value. You. But it's got to be genuine, right? Or they're going to see through you and you got to be able to. If you don't know your numbers, you don't survive. Right. So if you can't make it through year one, where you didn't have the community on your side yet and you only had 35 members and you're hopefully breaking even, Right. If you didn't have anything in the bank and didn't know what your target number needed to be for next year, you don't make it there. Yeah. You pull out. Now you're just a trainer again at LA Fitness and you hate your life. Yeah. So it's knowing your numbers, getting in, but sticking to it and knowing that by endurance we conquer. Right. You got to stay in the game, right. And stay in the community for people to actually refer you. Right. If you're, if I. If someone refers their aunt and she's not ready, but she'll be there in six months. You got to be in business in six months to kind of be around and kind of stay in it. Really good. But it's a, it's a, it's a grueling game. There's a lot of competition. We. I still, I get hurt every day if someone leaves, you know that, that shit, it kills, it tears up a little bit. I do. But, but people, they, it's sometimes not. You do. Right. They just have a good, they, they feel something, you know. Yeah. It's timing. It's their schedule. Most people don't leave because they like, they don't like us. They had a baby. Yeah. They got a new job. Their track record, you know, doesn't speak to it. Always in the positive for you guys. Yeah. But you gotta, you have to stay ahead of it. You got to stay in people's faces. You gotta. But you also have to ensure that you're always providing high level value service. Right. I kind of, I tell our guys, like, well, we're a service business. Like we're not a, we're not a fitness studio. We're a service business. Right. Just like if someone's going to come down, sit for a steak, you got to give them good service. They got to come in here and get exactly what they're looking for every time. Because the first time I walk into your studio and it was blah. I'm going to go to every other studio that's already around you. Right. Like, why the hell would I come here? Because you. And you're not even giving me good energy. So it's. But it is, it's service. It's. You're paid by the hour. You got to be there. And everyone that's in there has got to. Got to show up and give that person, like we were saying before, that efficient workout that they're looking for, that high energy that they're looking for because there are a lot of good people in this space. Everyone's in fitness right now. So you got to kind of continue to kind of double down on the energy you're given and the offering you're giving. Yeah. If you. There's a lot of different directions and aspects, but it's all, I feel it's built off of expectation and who you are even going back to, like juggling the responsibilities of your life as an entrepreneur. Know, like, take the responsibility for what you got yourself into. Take the responsibility. If you don't want to scale and you don't want to hire out and delegate to scale the business and take the hits for the immediate, to put people into play and then know that that's going to take more hours to teach them to put things in place. But on the other side, there's a light at the end of the Tunnel, like if you want to be in the gym, you know your brand, you know what your revenue is. Everything seems perfect now. You're the only one working it and you don't want to hire. You can make, you know, 10, 20, 30, 40 grand for yourself a month. If you crush and you work all day every day and you do it and you have a good brand, cool. But now it's like, okay, you're going to get tired, prepare for that. Yeah. Like you said, what other add ons, like Tyler said, nutrition do you have to add on? Do you, do you foresee a bigger brand? Do you foresee a big bubble of what you're doing? You foresee scalability within the business growth? Is that a thing? Right. Do you want to go through that? I feel like those are questions you have to ask yourself because you hit the ceiling really fast. And I feel like our vision, when we opened Eightwell as a brand, we thought of it as the overarching wellness company like we always talk about. We never like our path to get there has changed a bunch, but we never veered away from that entity of seeing what that 10 to 15 to 20 year looks like. That, what is that sellable company? What's like the $100 million idea potential, potentially that you could have. What's the, what's the full project? Right. And I feel like that's, that's what's driven us past just the, the roots of opening the first couple months and us being coaching. We coached every class together. Yeah, right. People would just laugh because we'd be, you know, joking around, but like we're these two, two fitness dudes, right. Just took a leap on a business and we're energy in the class. Every class you see us, right. And then going through, right. If the stake's not the same, pull away. There's some adjustments. One member comes in. Now we have a new coach. Okay. Do they adapt well? Does the coach fit? Is everything, right? Coach the coach up. Going through all that, going through the growth. Right. How do we figure that out so we get some hours away so we could do more work on the other end. Figure that out. Working on the business. Yeah, in the business there's so many levels to the game. And if you just want to be a trainer and you want to open a space and you want your private training studio and you could afford paying$3,000 a month and you know that your training business does 15,000 and you're going to take home, you know, 10 grand and there's two left over that you could kind of play around with, do it. Cool. Fantastic. Have fun with it. Some months will be low, some months will be high. You'll probably be able to live a pretty decent life, you know, but if you want more than that, there's a. There's a gap. Yeah. There's a big gap of shit that has to happen in a gym space. Right. And people are unprepared. So that it was like our, I think, think the reason that we were able to be in kind of coming up to year three. Right. Year four. Coming up to year four. Yeah. Was that the bigger vision, the bigger mission was never just fitness. Right. It was that people need so much more than that. Right. And being able to open up avenues and be able to provide revenue streams for the business, but more offerings and more value to our people. And so you can grow this business around kind of just the fitness. Yeah. Right. You're adding nutrition. We have an IV hydration business. Okay. How do we bring all that together? Now we're doing. Or we're gonna do some medical nutrition consulting, or we have another studio. Right. That does some other things. How do we tie both of those businesses in together to be able to build a bigger kind of a bigger fitness offering for anyone that's in. On Long island, in Huntington. So being able to kind of bring this. This vision about health and wellness, because the. The first thought was just people need more than just the physical fitness that they're getting. So awell is born out of the ideology that it's about holistic health. Right. If you have other stress in your life onto your body. Right. You're still not going to be healthy even if you're hitting that gym five days a week. Right. And you're doing your best stuff. But if you're, like you said, if your occupation wasn't being taken care of, you're not going to feel good when you're sitting on the couch at the end of the night. So that needs to be taken care of. Okay. Is your mental health also being taken care of? And you mentioned. All right. If I'm not, I know. If I'm not talking to my boys for a little bit. So you may be making some good money hitting your workouts three days a week, but you're not getting that social aspect. Okay. So how do I check these boxes so I can actually feel my optimal self? So now when I sit down for a podcast or I sit down for an interview, I'm trying to be a good parent. I know all those boxes are Checked so I can be kind of the optimal version of myself, right? So that's. That's the goal, and that's the bigger mission. You learn who you are and what you need a lot faster. When the hours get tighter. And, like, for me, it's getting that two hours of sleep and probably not having those conversations because I'm fucking. I start to drag. My energy, like, disperses a lot faster. I feel like, for myself with the social environment and everything, but, like, knowing that about yourself even before you go on this venture, right. There's things I used to do that I took for granted. Just fun, leisurely things. And I didn't really think as deeply about who I am because now I'm only living who I really am, maybe a couple hours a week where I can do anything I want. Right? Because everything else is the brand, the relationship, the per. Obviously, you're yourself and throughout all these things, but the taking care of all the things that need to be tended to. Sorry I cut you off. No, no. So I was like, how you were saying before about checking boxes, and we talked about when I came in and jumped in with the nutrition. All of these people at 8. Well, had those boxes being checked. Like, you guys were getting them on the strength side. You were checking all the boxes on the relationships. Like, these people trust you like family. That when I came in, there was now a new box, and they were ready. They didn't have to check off any other. The other boxes. They were just ready to jump in. And they. When I first came in, like. Like, hats off to them. They had so many people that were like, you should go sit down with Nick. They were like, Yeah, I trust T.J. i trust Tyler. Like. Like, I'm just gonna trust what they say. I'm gonna go sit down with this kid. I have no idea who he is, and I'm gonna listen to him talk for an hour. He's got a pretty trustworthy face, though. He's got a good face. So. Good face. I'm just saying, like, that doesn't happen. Like, I've. I've worked in dozens of now gyms, like, where I've kind of stepped in, trained, or been a part of, where if I'm not selling or talking or educating, like, those packages don't come to me. Like, they don't. You don't get a trainer that they trust wholeheartedly to say, here's my money. Give it to somebody else that you think will help me. Like, that doesn't happen. And, like, the first month, like, Before I even, like, really signed on, and we, like, kind of put something down. GD was like, yeah, I got, like, three people for you, like, next week. And I'm like, what do you mean? Like, what are you talking. You're gonna have to scrap it out. I had a one. I had a one on one on one. Couple guys I trained the neighborhood, you know, shout out. Out to the. To the community we have up here. It's phenomenal with some of the personal training clients. And what do I eat? What do I do? This. I'm like, one day, it was just. It was Chris, right, sitting in the morning, and Nick's sitting on the box up front, just hanging out in between classes, and I'm training him, and he's like, what should I do? He's like, I'm trying to. I'm trying to do this. I'm like, dude, I'm like, that's your guy. I'm like, get away from me. I'm like, that's his lane. Like, after the session, please just have a conversation with him, like, aggressively saying it. Because I'm like, get. Like, do. Like, that's it. Like, he's here for. That's delegating. That's scalability. That's his brand. But that he's. That only happens. Yeah. Like, if they're wholeheartedly trust them. Yeah. Yeah. And, like, that's, like, going back to, like, building that business. And, like, you guys have been checking boxes, like, along the way. Yeah. And, like, if it wasn't fully checked, like, they wouldn't have talked to me, wouldn't have cared. You know, like, unless there was an extreme issue. That unless I talked to them or started building a relationship, like these official. The first initial people that eventually got me to, like, say, hey, I'm not going back to baseball. Like, I'm not going back to Pro Bowl. That. I'm like, I can see Adam. Yeah. Like, they locked. They locked me in. Like, they were like, here, take this. Like, do this. And that's a big reason, like, why I stayed and, like, why I'm here is because, one, the work is good. Yeah, that's cool. But, like, you don't see the way, like, they change and take in trust better than most people I've seen in the industry. And, like, hats off. Like, I've given you this conversation before. Like, I wouldn't have chosen to work with you guys or, like, go partners on. We had a couple phone calls in, like, April May, and I was like, I haven't spoken to you. In four years. Exactly. Hey, what's going on? Oh, I don't know. I'm like thinking, well, this guy we're gonna. Okay, okay. Another conversation. Hey, dude, come on, like, give it a try, whatever. Like, I really don't know what I want to do. I'm like, all right, well, like, you can build what you want to build here if you want. So like, let's talk. And then he's like, oh, but it's the picture, right? It's the mindset. And I going back to like a kid, right, Wanting to build their thing. And what would you tell like your. Your buddy that you guys know building a gym? Like, hopefully he's in it. He's understanding. Like. But kids that are there and see like zoo culture or like these big massive entities that who knows what they have to offer and what's going on behind them. If they're profitable, these guys might have a big budget, might be a lot of investors behind them. But like the dream. The dream gyms, right? Like the million dollar a year just to keep the doors open gyms. That's how much it costs. Cash. 2.2 sometime right in the city, big gym like crazy a year. What are you doing? How do you get there? How do you create one package and then six more things around it that get that revenue to 120 grand a month just to pay the fucking bills in a 15,000 square foot facility in a massive city. Some somewhere like, you got to know what your attack is. Well, think of equal. Because people literally have died over this shit, you know, literally. Equinox. Yeah. What's Equinox? What does that say? Yeah. To something. Yeah. And that's what we charge here for. I don't know about that. Might be. Think it's more. I think it's more Equinox at Equinox membership for. For a few years when I was in the city, the guys like a New York City person. It just felt good to shower. An Equinox shower city apartment sneaking. It's like someone was in there cleaning up all day. This towels. Like, I'm gonna pay for this. Let's see. Hey, listen, you get some eucalyptus in the gym? You know, I don't. I don't even know what that is. I love. Rates are going up. If we get OC's in the back doing long. We got a towel. Sorry. No, please. No. I guess it depends on which club. I'm seeing an average 285. Okay. But that's. Yeah, 300. The thing about that's Also that's a bait. That's just a base gym membership. It. Yeah, you're not getting anything. Water drinks this at the third. Right. Lifetime is a spa right there. Most people. Oh, these people are saying after the Amex discount, that's what they're saying. 200amonth corporate discount plus Amex credit, which brings me below 200amonth for. Well, that's. You're getting everything access. That's good. So it's probably close to 400. I would say, I would say 350. 350. 300. Maybe on the high end, 400. But now like if AI were to to have a number of statistic on like The Hudson Yards. 285. Hudson Yards Equinox, let's say base minimum revenue. 285. That square footage, what maybe 20,000 square feet for a space like that. Rent in New York city is probably 100. How much you're paying for that? Look, 20,000 square feet here. I know the 175 is, you know. No, they're 100 grand. 100 grand a month, right? Oh, cost worldwide membership. 405 for Hudson Yard. $1.2 million a year to keep the doors open just at rent. Plus that's all electricity. This at the third. Every gym. Every gym, New York City. I'm not trying to cut you off. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just. It's just like spitballing. No, it's real. This membership cost 405 and includes access to Hudson Yards, the E clubs and all Equinox clubs worldwide. So what's at a base membership? I guess it would be closer to 200 then. Yeah. So if you do 405 as the sign on, let's say at $120,000 a month. Month. Just to keep the lights on electricity and pay one fucking person to work at the desk. Yeah, but Equinox is venture and private equity back. Yeah. How much a month? You're saying 125.$125,000 a month to keep the private equity open, closed. But like that's on average they have to have about 310 to 311 members. Yes. Just to break even. Hang. Just to break even. Now how do you. 25,000. Now how do you start funneling seven personal trainers who each are making 100 grand a month. Month to even live in that location. Plus. Right. All the different people, the janitors, night and day janitor, plus the desk people, plus four different financial people on the back end. Obviously they're marketing. Like if you're going to open up a gym. We opened two. I knew that you're, you were going to be a lot of the back end. You knew that we were going to that role. You know, we're on the floor to start, but like I was going to do some of the creative side more so the programming, some of the in gym stuff and training. You're doing a lot of the finance, the back end, the analytics. Right. Spitball on all the statistics. Gotta go with a plan. Yeah. Because that's venture backed and some of those locations still close at certain points. Right. So they consolidate or they, you know. Yeah, they restructure. That was a good term when I worked at Best Buy and they use basically like, hey, we're firing people. Restructuring. Yeah, we heard that there was a restructure coming after 08 and we were. Just like, oh, restructure sounds terrible. Don't love that term. But the equinoxes, right, the, they have a differentiated value proposition. Right. You're, we're in New York City. This is the nicest place you're going to come to. You're going to pay up for this because if you're not coming to me, you're going to go to crunch or you're going to go to plant. Like so there's a whole different demographic. Right. So now I got the beautiful pool. I've got probably a turf strip with something outside. Right. So yeah, it's on the rooftop for like the. Right, like the, they've got the, they got the nice basketball courts. Right. They've got a food court at the pool. Yeah. So. And you, so you know who you're going after. It's like you found your new funnel, found your person. Nick. Sorry, but that, that, that's who they, they know who they target there for for 200, 300 bucks a month. Also you talk about meeting people. That's its own dating culture right there. I'm sure. I mean, yeah, that place is probably. A cesspool of just, I mean, half of that social scene. You know, if you're driving in the city every day. Yeah. You're paying $300 a month. You know, you're going to see like. Yeah, that's funny. No, but you got to have a plan, man. Man, I like what, what the hell she find on the, on the web, on your phone. Yeah. She didn't find a little piece. Well, like what you're saying about being able to. So if you're building, right. A business, specifically a fitness studio, you and you being able to tag on A product that people are going to kind of appreciate right away and adopt. Trust was built in the, in the grassroots and the foundation of us building a product that we actually cared about and it was genuine authenticity about like, hey, we care about you. This is a service. We care about the customer. Right. So we shown that, we showed that for years. Right. That, that was, that was first. Yeah. We probably, we sacrificed a lot of profit in order to just care about our customers or we didn't. The way fees were structured, free classes, getting people in doing different deals. Right. Just to get. Just to make this something that people actually could, could work with and work within their schedule. Right. That's, that's what we gave and the amount of value we gave from before he came on. Right. Just talking about anything nutrition, talking about anything wellness with all of our members. Right. They got kind of everything from us. So when we said hey, we do. We're all, we are offering something else. They were ready to receive it and we had to go through the trust was already there. Right. That's two iterations really too. The two. Right. Dietician. Well yeah, right. Of. We had, we had one first and just. That didn't work out. Then we did kind of an online guy who was great but wasn't in the studio and we got a real, real value add. But there's like something about. So there's about, about a brand kind of just trying to be. So there's a kind of a number that people like a number of relationships that we all are supposedly be able, like able to maintain. Maintain at a time and right. There's kind of a systematic. Right. So first your relationship with the close person to typically that's going to be like your spouse and then eight people outside of that, your intermediate family or your dog, you know. But at some point this is things like this being like end of life and looking back so you have a one person connection, then you have a ten, then a hundred goes out to like the people that you're going to invite to your wedding. Right. And then sometimes that's. Those aren't people that are always going to come to your house for dinner but like. Right. They get that invite. But thinking in that network those are people that you're kind of that you can reach towards and that you would trust. Right. These are people you would let in your house kind of thing in that same, in that same thought process. You want to be like that in a brand, right? So I want, I want to be our brand to be in our clients, our Members, heads, like that person that you're going to invite to. Right. At least invite to the wedding. Right? So that means when we drop something, it's trusted. You're a trusted product there for people. You want them to feel like we're talking about something, you know, it's genuine. You trust us. Right. We have that close enough connection for when we're putting it out there. You know, it's real. So thank you. Yeah, exactly. Authentic. Yeah. We talk about that real quick for a second. Authenticity. No, the wedding thing. Why do you invite people you don't even like at the wedding? It usually isn't you, right? Like, it's like, sometimes your parents were. Like, you're like, well, cousin Janine invited us to their wedding, and we went, and we haven't seen her in eight years, so now it's time for her to give us a gift. And it's like, I don't want her there. Parents, like, go back. Like, kind of go back and forth in their head, like Rolodex. We went to this person's wedding, their kid invited. Keeping tips. It's like, you're not. This is my fucking wedding. Like, I don't care. That person comes. I have a question. So I was talking to a bunch of my friends are getting married. And, like, I've been hearing about people. Some other marriages, like, when you get gifts, are you, like, tracking who gets what for you? Yes. So, yeah. So, like. But it was more. I just pressed it because I knew what I spent on the wedding. And I was like, you want to know? Kind of what came in? But also, there was, like a you writing thank you cards to people. So it was like, Nick Valenti gave us 30 fucking bucks for our wedding. Right. So I would definitely get more. But no, but I'm sad because, like, I thought, and the first thing in my head is like, are they keeping score Christmas? Yeah. Like, it was more like, you do have a lot coming, bro. It's a big expense then. Well, typically. Which also, I'd say not smart to have a big expense for a wedding. No, don't do it. You'll have as much fun if you just throw a party, and you'll be fine. Yeah, I got to get a text. Back, and even I know that. Yeah. Yeah, but, like, you got a lot of cards coming in, so you kind of track, like, who gave what. So you gave us whatever, some plates, Right? You want to know that? All right. Nick gave this. We got to make sure he gets a card. Or Nick gave a card for 100 bucks. TJ gave. So now when Nick invites you to his wedding, are you remembering? So people do that, Even act the same? I don't, I don't like, I don't play that game. I don't like that. Right. Like, I'm gonna give whatever I tip you. Still. How long would you get married? 20, 19. 2019. You still got that spreadsheet? I don't. I actually tried to look my. I thought I was getting jammed, but you know. You know what's funny? You know, it's funny. My wife, we had to give a card. We have. We had to give a card the other day to someone. She was like, what the. They give us for our wedding? Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I was like, we're good, we're good. Just gonna just give whatever we think is appropriate for this one. Like, but you guys, that people definitely do that. Yeah. Give them a gift card to Sunoco. Yeah. Remember, like, they were broke in 2019. They didn't give a. It should feel good to get though. Right, if, like, okay, minimum spend. But then I feel like if you're doing well and you go to a wedding, like, you give them something nice because you care about them, I wouldn't expect. Well, according to the government, I don't make any money. Yeah. This guy runs a cash business over here. I don't, I don't. I don't know. I don't make any money, so I'm never really doing well. I thought that was so funny. I was thinking to myself, I'm like, there's a score. Someone's got a score. Oh, yeah. Someone points somewhere. I kind of. I go to the wedding. I mean, unless it's like, someone that's very close, I'm just, I'm not gonna be at the bottom. Yeah, exactly. Like, no, Like, I'm gonna. They're gonna like, oh, that was a deep like. But you never. Are you gonna be at the top? It depends who you are. Like, are you my next gonna say? You know what I mean? Like, no, no, no. So I, I, I've been going to weddings now. I've been coming to more well versed in, like, how much plate costs. My dad obviously has a restaurant. He knows a lot of the catering halls. And I'll literally call him up and be like, what's the minimum I'm supposed to get? For this place? Yeah, for that place. What do you double the plate? So, yeah, I try. Then like, you, like, then if I'm bringing my girlfriend, like, then I'm. My bill is like, drew. Yeah. So now I'm thinking, I'm like, oh, my God. Like, this is a lot of money. And then I'm thinking, like, these people spend a lot of money on a wedding, you know, like, then you're like, wow. Like, this is crazy. But there is. Like, you need to give the plate, you know, at least at minimum. That's just etiquette. Like, I can't get behind. Like, don't show up. Like, tell them you can't go. They actually win. Yeah. If you actually didn't show up and gave them 100 bucks, that's. That's a win for them. Yeah, don't show up. Don't go. And then. Right. Give. Which. Whatever, man. You go to people's wedding if you want. Like, it shouldn't be all about the money. But if, you know, this is a real wedding. Yeah. You're gonna be there and you. You're not gonna give anything. Like, come on. You got it. You gotta try to hit that plate minimum. Yeah, you gotta hit the plate minimum. What are you calling the catering hall before. They should literally. They should put that out there. It's like common knowledge. We guys charge 150 ahead. Yeah. They should make that common knowledge. Yeah. To the sense. Yeah. Give them like $2 more. I fucked up. You know, you're like suggested gratuity when you go. That's. That's a good app. Well, they're getting someone make that. Yeah. Higher double a total. Like, I'm going away. Rectory of all the plates across the country. Yeah. So it's like, oh, Huntington Harbor Country Club. Their average plates, $120. Now. I don't have to think about it. I know where the numbers are going to be. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. I like that. I just try to run an average, like 150 ahead. At least. That's like bare minimum. And then you're gonna like two, like, depending on where the standing is of you. Right. Like, so a lot of clams be. Just shelling out on a wedding. It is. But I understand being on the other side of it. I literally was thinking of clams, too. Like eating clams, when you both thought of eating clams. I love clams. You gonna have some tonight? Probably, yeah, probably. Linguini, white clam sauce, fra diablo. A little spicy. Already got the menu put in for us. I got the memory. So let me ask you this. You as a health professional, coming from an Italian restaurant. Let me put this down. I hate being considered the food police. I don't think you're the food police. I just think you're a health aficionado, professional. Like that's your career. That's your knowledge base especially. I think you're knowledgeable in other things. But that's primarily what you, you know, make a living doing. So how do you go to. How do you, you know, what is. So how do you go to the grocery store? My outfit, my. A dietitian is way more than just understanding like the macros and like what's going on between just the energy you're getting from food. We get taught a lot about the counseling and the aspect of like handling somebody's ability to handle the situations about going to the grocery store, handling that stress. For me personally, like when I go through it, it's a part of the bucket of if I'm doing everything else right, this isn't as important to me me, you know, like it's. I don't put stress on it. It's just a part of my life where I don't put any aspect on it anymore. Like if I'm doing everything in the gym, if I'm doing what I'm working out and my days. I generally eat the same stuff every day. I don't stress. I'm not the kind of guy that turns it around and go through every single ingredient and like I'm gonna die if I eat this. This is something. This is a thickening agent that I've seen research on that could be causing this. The xantham gum. Like just. There's a thousand things. I'm. Dude, I'm poisoned. It's over. There's a bunch of stuff that like you really. Every protein powder you have. I want you to continue. Yeah, I have to address that. I bitch to everybody about sucralose. I really do. I really do. I do bitch about it because listen, I probably have and I'm sure some of it's forced, self induced mentally. I do have in and out brain fog every now and then and that could just be from lack of sleep. It could just be from being an entrepreneur and everything on a daily basis. Dehydrated. You should rewind the podcast and listen to it. You know what I'm saying? Like, like we, what we talked through so many things today. We should talk. We talked with so many things. I can guarantee you that is the bottom of the totem pole of the brain fog. You just said I should rewind the podcast. Yeah. Listen to. You heard that, right? That was crazy. So crazy. Because I'm like, well, you obviously have some good mics, so put some good headphones. I'm being straight. And I know, like, it's crazy because I get like, I'll sit down with somebody for an hour and I'll go through politely saying that. You know what I mean? Like, just getting to that point of like, listen, like, I drive myself run a business. I drive myself crazy because I'm thinking, I'm like, could it be the eggs? Could it be ground beef? What could it be? Could it be the sucralose? Could it be the pre workout? Like, you're just. And then you're thinking, well, what am I gonna buy at the grocery store? And I'm sure there's. There are. I don't. I'm not sure. I know there are billions of people. Yeah. That don't put any emphasis on that. And they don't even give a sign. What you, like, you need. And for him, he's looking at the perspective of how he's giving it to somebody else. Yeah. So. Right. Like, how would you coach somebody? I'm going to kind of be that way. Just laid back, logical. What's the 99%? Right. I'm not looking at the one unless I really want to hone in. And I'm. I'm very, very particular. Chip at the bigger things. Chip at the total energy you're consuming. Chip at shopping at the outer AIs or the grocery store. Sick to the whole foods. And like, when you go into some of your. Yeah, that was a John Meadows thing. He used to talk about that too. It's a good. That's like one of my favorite tips. It's so simple. Like, you're healthy, you work out all the time. Like, if you're really turning around every single box, that's added stress to your day. That just shouldn't matter. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you really just need to focus on the major things. If you've bodybuilded, you probably know every in. And always gets so soothing when he gets into talking. Like, you just need to take some time and put stuff in boxes of like, major focus, lesser focus. I'll get to this tomorrow. And like, it's the same thing to do with, like, your food. Like, there's no other reason to put that added stress into your life. And yes, it's a major contributor and you need to put some emphasis on it, but it's not the number one factor to your brain fog sometimes. Like, I'm sure there's other things fighting it so that xanthum gum or whatever additives you think that's breaking it down is probably not your main fault. I'm sure you're more fucked up than just saying. That's exactly what he just said. That's what I got. He's like, it's probably because you get dropped on your head in jiu jitsu twice a week. Like, they collide heads a couple times. Yeah, man. Like it. Yes. There's probably other things, but cut it out, see what happens. Yeah, but then it's like. Then it's like, what else do I eat? Because you don't even know anymore. Yeah, yeah. Like chicken, ground beef. Yeah. But also like the fact that, like, most of that being what you eat. Right. And then the sucralose. The things that have the sucralose. Right. Are the 20%. Dude, no, they're everywhere. When you really start noticing not in. The whole food you eat. Like, and if you're like energy in the bars. Is that the third. Instead of a black coffee, it's a. It's a bottled coffee. Like, what's your chronic exposure to shit, I feel like, is. If you're not versed in it, it's hard. But if you're. If you're already thinking about these things, that's where I feel like you go. Paralysis by. Not at home. I try to always use. That's what it wants to be. Yeah, yeah. You know, just know too much and you just go, oh, I should avoid that. I heard. I read a study on that. Oh, there's too much choline in the eggs. Like shit. Like, just like what? Yeah, fuck that. When you were bodybuilding. That's like, stupid. Yeah. When you were bodybuilding, did you work with a coach, like, manager? I did, but he. He just did it all Macros. It was. Well, no, it wasn't. The doctor that I worked with after the first coach that I worked with. Yeah. So my second coach was macro based. Did he give you food or he just had to eat within these numbers? He just said, eat within those numbers. He's like, but generally you want to eat, eat, you know, more cleaner, cleaner foods. We had me higher fat, so I was doing like a form of keto for a little while. Like bacon and stuff like that. I was doing all that now, knowing what I know about bacon, I wouldn't eat that. But it's like, yeah, dude, I love bacon. So you love bacon. Oh, this man. We had. You know that they feed. You know, they feed the pigs plastic and garbage at the end. Depends what pigs you're eating? Sounds good to me. Oh God. I guess we. Hey, where you getting good pig from? I usually butcher box get my bacon from there. Okay. Do you know where? Yeah. But you know where they source their bacon from though. I'm sure I could find it. I need you to find that now for me. Yeah, yeah. Curious. They have a couple different cuts of bacon I like. Force of nature. Force of nature's really good. They're very good. Regenerative farming. Yeah. We had one of our first meet. Well not one of our first meetings, but meetings upon like right in the first. In a couple of months while the gym was being built out, we grabbed like a little sit down breakfast. Like I was gonna actually eat a meal. Cause I knew I wanted to work out. We sat down, it was in a brownstones and I don't even know. We sat down for like one meal prior. Maybe one or two meals prior to that. And he sits down, he's like, the waitress comes over. I'm gonna have like a you know, a little whatever farmer's breakfast bowl. I'll take like a little iced black coffee. And he's like, ky, get bacon, fruit and an iced coffee please. And I was like, what's going on? I was like, all right. Do you eat more animal based? I do. He does for sure. Yeah. But I think this was like in between. Yeah, yeah, it was

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30. It wasn't. Couldn't be like a full meal for me. So like you're saying there's a lot of you get trapped by the shit that you know. Like I'm a very habit driven person. Like I eat my. I eat lunch, breakfast, dinner. I don't snack that much. I have something at like I like a little dessert but it's probably going to be like something that's like a. Not a real dessert. So if you're hitting three meals a day, how are you getting all your. Your I'll have a protein shake, right. I'll have. And then I'll have like a like last night yogurt with some protein powder in it, right. To kind of get that extra, an extra 40 at night. Going back to like what I was saying to you to like take some of that stress off. Like he therapy session. He need it. He has a very habit day. Like I see him, I see him work every day. It's like the same food every time. I was like that for a long time, but now there's so much, there's so much changing in my days where I'm just like, what did I eat for breakfast? I'm like, I don't even fucking remember sometimes. How are you prepping and preparing your week or day or. Let me. So if we're going to like, bulk prep of food, you need, like, the probably would take a lot of stress off your plate is if you got a list and said day one, day two, day three, and this is what you need to do. Just totally forget about it. You have a thousand things going on in your brain. He's selling you, right? No, I'm not selling you because it's. I'm sure that he has. He has the capabilities of doing himself. This is a tier two package, my. Boy, at a low rate. Triple click. That is like four grand missing from my bank account. Right? No, no, but I'm serious. Like, you have the knowledge. Like, you can go, like, if you took an hour out of your day and you said day one, day two, day three, and you just wrote it out and you gave yourself that and just never looked at it again, and you go, these are my grocery lists. And I go pick it up. You'll probably never have to worry about, like, just take an hour. You have the knowledge to do it. Just do it. And also, like, yeah, find the shit that, like, I. And it may be boring, but I probably on the course for a week. I probably. Breakfast and lunch is probably the same. Five days of that. I could probably tell you no, but it's. But I enjoy it. But that's what I'm saying. Find the things you like. Like I eat two different things for breakfast five days a week. I either eat. I'll make some eggs with some sort of meat, maybe in a wrap, right? A little bit cheese, cheddar. And then. Or I'm gonna literally have like a sharp chip. Yeah. Or I'm literally gonna have. Yeah. Yeah. If I don't make something. Or. Or like, it's not made for me by my wife in the morning. Thank you. I literally bring a yogurt. A yogurt with a scoop of protein and overnight oats. Overnight oats. Like hell out of his protein up front. Yeah. It's got to be creamy. You know what I mean? Scoops the size of the cup. But, like, that's just easy. I don't have to think about it, right? Like, if I had to think about it every day, I'd maybe be overthinking it. I already found two. I found two things. I feel options. I just do it. And then lunch. I literally have rice and a Meat. Typically, that meat is either going to be like, there was like a leftover protein that I brought in or whatever, right? Like that. That was it. And I'll just do that every day. He's like, no, pause. He's like, I'm so. I looked at Nick. I licked the T. Play, Play. Yeah, no, but it's true. It's. I can tell you, like, yeah, like. Tell you what he's getting when he walks out of the gym to go to your store. There's like three different options. But, like, that's how we see food, too. Yeah. You know, that's just it. It's just fuel. It's not shit I hate. Just. No, I enjoy it every day. Really. It's not just fuel. Like. Like, it's just what you enjoy, you know? I mean, but like, it's just taking that stress out. Like, you map out your week schedule for all your shoots. Why would you do that with your food? You know, like, you map out like, every, like, everything. You're a mess, man. Rewind this podcast real quick. When's the last time you watched those shorts, man? I'm never getting invited back, but if. You just weren't an idiot. No, maybe life would be. I just been great. We sit on Loop Net. Loop Net Attack up for rent tomorrow. I moved to Idaho. I'm gone. There's no more Dicky Rizzles. He's. He's an accountant somewhere. I'll never forget that podcast. It ended every. Nick. No, I'm like, no, I know. It's just real. Like the. He is. No, I did well. I did well when I had my. There's two sides of it. I did very well when I had my first coach and he just gave me my meals and it was like, you prepped it out and you were done for. It was like the. It was like the group training. It was done. Yeah, you know, you got it done with. You prepped it and it was over. The problem, you know, the leniency that I've had where I just bulk prep state. If I just bulk prep ground beef and chicken and stuff like that, and then not thinking throughout the day, it's like, okay, well, now I guess I'll just take 8 ounces right now because I'm behind schedule for protein and I'll just eat it like that. Or I don't want to eat too many carbs because I want to eat more animal based. So I, you know, I'm not training right this second, so I'll have it with like a Side of veggies. Like before I came here, I had six ounces of ground beef. Beef. And I had peas. I had like green peas. Whatever. Okay. Yeah. And I was trying to have a bean salad too, because it was in the fridge and I was like, I gotta eat it before it's bad. But. But I think I've shot myself in the foot with the convenience of just being so relaxed as well. And then when I was doing jiu jitsu and I was doing the hit cardio every single day, I was undereating severely. So I was losing a ton of body fat. But I was. I just felt like. Because I was just burn the candle at both ends. Yep. And I wasn't eating. I mean, there were maybe days where I'd get maybe 900 calories. A thousand calories. That's crazy. Yeah. Even to this day, I find it still difficult to eat as much food as I'm required to eat. Hit a 200 gram protein goal. Yeah, it's tough. It really is tough. It's work. It takes. It's tough after. It takes effort for sure. So that pocket chicken. Pocket chicken, Right. Just. Oh, yeah. Didn't you. You crack that out really carried in a bag. Where did you crack that out? No, I used to personally train when I used to literally have like a chicken. Chicken in my pocket. I would eat it like a candy bar while training people. I've seen this many

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00am I mean. Yeah, nice little filet. AM do it sometimes you got to get it in. I do have sickle. I was gonna say. Yo, listen, let's, let's, let's end. Let's end. If you want to take the. You have to UF call right now. Coming in. Go, go, go. That was Nick. You better close it. Unbelievable. Thank you, guys. Hell of a time. Free 15 minute consultation for anybody that listened with TJ. Hey now, I already got. I already got therapy and a lashing. Yeah, I don't have to apologize. Look at this. Okay. Bye, boys. If you want, plug the gym. Talk about it real quick. Yeah. Man 8. Well, Huntington Village, we got Forever Fit now. Powered by Eight. Well in Centerport, Washington Ave. Right down the road from the Crescent Huntington Crescent Club, if you know where that is. Like a little strip kind of in a neighborhood. We got our drip company. No, no, no. Other way. Other way. 25A Street. Yeah. If you're going towards like north Port Center Port and then to the left. Gotcha. Cool. We got dripped, which is our IV company. Turning that into a little bit of A performance weight loss clinic soon to be launched. Are you doing peptides all here in town? We're in the process of trying to find cool Trump for that. Yeah. But getting into that game, it's gonna be good. All right, we got Nick died under the service. Find us Nick. Nick's awesome. Yeah, he's a good dude, man. @eightwell, life on Instagram. Yeah. Personal training, small group training, nutrition consulting, IV hydration, kind of everything across the fitness spectrum. Check it out. Appreciate you guys or your homey little one stop shop for wellness and growing. And that was the goal, right? As personable and as intimate as we could be with the industry, you don't want to walk into a cold doctor's office and not know who's sticking a needle in your arm, right? You don't want to kind of walk into a cold iron gym, maybe grungy and not really know what you're doing as an average person and be intimidated. So, yeah, as intimate and custom as it can be, right. Within a group setting. And that's kind of. We're trying to give real ass people. Good gym, great facility. I appreciate you boys. For real. You, man. It was great. We got to do another one. We got to do another one. Hang out. Keep this shit rocking now. This was good. I appreciate everybody for fucking with us, but for now, peace. Peace. Yep.