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Ep 212: Your Teen is Normal! A conversation with actual kids-- The hosts of the Holistic Kids Show

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In episode 211 of Your Child is Normal, Abdullah, Emaad, Zain, and Qasim Ansari (Brothers spaning the ages of 10 to 17) hosts of the Holistic Kids Show podcast, share their journey of creating a podcast focused on health and wellness for teens. They discuss the importance of hydration, the impact of technology and social media, and effective parenting strategies. The conversation emphasizes the need for independence in children while maintaining a balance with guidance. The Ansari brothers also highlight the significance of healthy eating habits and spending time in nature. Their insights are backed by their experiences and the knowledge gained from interviewing experts in the field. They conclude by promoting their upcoming book, which aims to educate teens and parents alike on health and wellness.

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Hi everyone, and welcome back to your child is normal. I'm your host. Dr Jessica Hochman, so today's episode is a little bit different, but in the best way. Instead of interviewing another adult expert, I'm talking to four kids who become their own kind of health experts. The brothers behind the holistic kids show podcast, they've recorded almost 200 episodes interviewing New York Times, best selling authors and top doctors all about how to live a healthy, happy life naturally. And now they've turned what they've learned into a new book, The teen health revolution, and it's coming out December 11. I wanted to have them on because as parents, we spend so much time talking about teens, so today we're talking to teens directly about the challenges they're facing with phones, food, friends and everything in between. They share simple, thoughtful ideas, and I really loved hearing their perspective. And if you can please leave a five star review for your child as normal. It helps the podcast reach more families, and all the reviews are greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for joining your child as normal. It's really been out. Yeah, you don't understand how honored we are for this. That's so nice of you guys. Now will you tell everybody your names and how old you are? So I'm Abdullah, I'm 17, I'm Imad, I'm 12, and I'm Zane, I'm 14, and I'm Casa and I'm 10. So I have to tell you, I've been really looking forward to this conversation. A little bit of this is self serving for me, because I'm a mom of three kids that are your ages, and so I'm hoping to learn from you guys how I can better parent my own children. And we're excited to share this information, because right now, so many teens and even parents are uneducated on certain topics, especially when it comes to living a good life, naturally. Okay, so you have your own podcast, and you guys have recorded almost 200 episodes. Tell everybody about your podcast and maybe touch on how you think you've grown by doing a podcast. So this was back in covid time, and our mom was telling us that you guys have so much time on your hands, why not do something beneficial? And so we started this podcast, originally, to teach others and ask questions that we had on living a natural wildlife. And so basically, once we started doing it, we started learning so much. And this was when I was 12, and then he was nine, and so as kids, interviewing adults and asking the questions that were burning in our head, we were able to actually better ourselves. From there on out, 200 podcasts later, we have a book, and it's been an amazing journey, and we've learned so much that's amazing. And do you feel like you've learned a lot about health by doing these podcasts a lot? Yeah, yes, especially interviewing all of these experts, just learning more in depth of each of these subjects, really let us learn and let our audience learn more about each of these topics. Plus, these were New York Times bestsellers. These were renowned experts, best selling authors, and the list just goes on and on and on and like, how can you not learn something spending half an hour each week with someone amazing like that? And so as kids, it helped with our school life. It helps with our personal life, emotionally, mentally, and anytime we had a question, we were able to ask it, and so it's been amazing. Now I'd love to ask each of you, can you give an example of an interview that you had where the advice that you were given actually has been implemented in your life and changed it and improved it for the better, a big and important one. I mean, there's been plenty, but one that I remember specifically talks more about hydration back then, especially me, I didn't drink as much water, but as I started becoming more of a teenager, the podcast helped me realize how water is so important for the body, and how much I should really start implementing it into my lifestyle. So now I drink lots of glasses of water per day, and I'm very passionate about just drinking water. And if your audience is interested in what that exact tip was, whenever you are sitting down somewhere, or when you're going to work or anytime, just bring a water bottle with you. It'll always remind you to drink water. And I know, especially for me as well, that tip helped benefit me so much, because, let's be honest, we don't really remember to drink water until we're thirsty. So just having the water bottle there, it's like a game changer. There's another one about nature to like, get get outside and like, go play and like, go in nature for vitamin D. Do you think you go outside more since hearing that advice? Yeah, I get morning sunshine. Morning sunshine is also good, beautiful. Then Abdullah. Do you have a favorite podcast that you feel like has changed your life for the better? So obviously, there's been so. Many favorite podcasts, 200 plus. But I think, honestly, one of the ones that's probably changed me and helped me the most was when it came to tech limits, because we interviewed somebody, and they were basically saying, when you go to sleep, instead of keeping your phone next to your bed, where you might pick it up and check a message, and then two hours later, you're doing scrolling, and you don't even know what time it is anymore, and you're going to sleep at 3am they said, Keep the phone in like downstairs on the counter, or put it on gray screen, anything that can help you protect yourself from your addiction to your phone. And I think just hearing that, and then looking at the world around me and looking at in high school how addicted kids are to technology and how especially iPhones and social media, just hearing something as simple as that and realizing how much of a change that could be for teens, it really blew my mind how nobody is taught that information right now, nobody is really saying to keep social Media before 16, that no one should have a smartphone before high school. And this should be common knowledge. The kids literally have phones in elementary middle school. I see people like phones at six years old, which is crazy. What I'm loving hearing about your interviews and the podcast interviews you've done is I feel like as a parent, I'm telling my kids information, and I hope that they're listening, but I sometimes feel like I'm lecturing or nagging, and I want them to come to this knowledge and understanding on their own. And where I feel like your mom is really smart is she's having other people talk to you about this very wise information, and so you're learning it, and you're seeking it and doing it without your parents telling you, so maybe all of us should have our kids start a podcast. Maybe that's the answer. I think, yeah, you're completely right. Teens hate listening to adults, and so for us, what our mom used to do that helped, especially when I was younger, and like 1516, you know, a little bit more hormonal. What really helped me, what our mom used to do, what she used to teach us, why? What are the effects of going on your phone and doom scrolling? She's just like, Don't you feel bad? And don't you feel groggy after you waste all that time, after you realize that you've just been sitting there doing nothing the entire time as a teenager, just reflecting on that and being like, Oh yeah, that's 100% right. It was if we were able to change our life. One pearl of wisdom I'll drop from our mom is that she used to always tell me, when I first got my phone, always go on your phone with a purpose, and from there on, now it's completely changed the way I've seen my phone. I think that's fantastic advice, to go on your phone with a purpose. I like that. I'm going to use that. Okay. So, Abdullah, I love that you said that you know that social media should be reserved for 16 and later, and that you feel okay with that recommendation, because sometimes I feel like that can be a battle between parents and kids. So teen to teen talk. How would you explain to a teen that's good for them? Teens, they're addicted, and it'll be so much more helpful when they can break free of this addiction, and when they spend all this time on the device, they lose their hobbies, and they stop doing a lot of the things that they used to do that they love because of this addiction. And when you're addicted to social media, you start losing so much time that could have been used for so much better things. So I just think that if teens can understand, just get off because they're addicted and to do something better with their life. And plus, we have to realize that right now, teens are living on a leash. 96% of Gen Z ers say that they can't go to the bathroom without their phones. It's a big problem. And right now, 91% of teens own a smartphone by 14. And so, you know, we have an entire universe of information in pockets. And honestly, we're just overexposed. As a teen, a 14 year old, having all that information at once, a lot of teens don't know how to manage that, and then they start, you know, experimenting with stuff, and they start going down different paths. And so that's why teaching your teen to manage this smartphone, you know, put limits on it. Keep it away from their bed when they go to sleep. Teach them that actually, mental health issues are on the rise, depression, anxiety. Three fourths of adolescents right now are facing depression and anxiety, and a lot of these are directly connected to social media and cell phone use. And I'm just curious if you guys are facing this challenge, but what I hear as a pediatrician from a lot of my teenage patients is that they want to be off social media, but the way all of their friends communicate is on Snapchat, for example. You know I heard today, oh, my friends don't text anymore. Everything's on Snapchat, and they don't want to be a part. From their friends. They want to be part of things, but Snapchat is social media, and they can see where all their friends are. They can see the location of their friends, and they'll feel bad if their friends are all together and they're not part of what's happening. And I think it's hard for a lot of teens, because they know on one hand that it can make them feel bad, but on the other hand, that's the way all their friends are talking. So what's your advice for teens that are in this situation? So honestly, like seeing our friends, I 100% see with my friends as well. And just like any addiction, you were not telling people to change overnight. And so honestly, for them, take it step by step. When you go on to Snapchat and you text them, do what you need to do on Snapchat. Go on there for a purpose, but as soon as you're done doing that, put the phone down. And so the best way for any of these teens to do it would just be going step by step. Maybe go on the phone 30 minutes for doing your social media, whatever, or an hour if you want to do that, and then slowly but surely cut that down. And then eventually you'll start feeling yourself not needing or wanting to be on your phone as much. So basically, all the kids in my school, or like a lot of my friends, they're all talking on, let's just say, Snapchat or text or something like or on these different types of social media platforms, but I'm not really a part of them, but I'm still their friend, because I can find the time away from the phone and just talk to them in person, instead of always having to constantly go on the phone and talk to them through that. That way I find the time and I talk to them in person. I think day ailing back little by little, I think is great advice. I also think just not starting in the first place is really advantageous, because you don't have a bad habit to break, right? You're not addicted. And I think the more that parents can delay having kids have easy access to the internet, have easy access to social media being on their phone all the time. I think that's also really helpful. I just want to put this out there that these phones were designed to keep you stuck on them. They were basically designed to manipulate you in order to make you keep wanting to stay on their product, keep wanting to scroll and scroll and use their apps and use their devices, because in the future, what's going to happen if all of a sudden, because they've been doing that, it's affecting their mental health, their physical health. So make the decision now. Don't wait until they're adults and as a teen, we have to start now. It's true that a lot of addictive habits are formed in your teenage years. If you want to be a good piano player, practicing when you're a teenager is a great time. If you want to have good habits with habits with eating, practicing that when you're a teenager is a good time if you want to get addicted to video games and screen time or bad habits like smoking, these habits get established in those teenage years. So I think delaying bad addictive habits is really smart. So what about the flip side? Are there any good sides of technology that maybe parents overlook or don't quite understand that they can be helpful for kids. We'd be crazy to say that social media and all this kind of stuff hasn't done good things. It's been something that's helped so many people around the world. I mean, both of us are on social media. That's what we have to focus on, using social media for good and and with a purpose, yeah, and if you're not, that's where things need to change. And I'm so appreciative that you brought that up, because sometimes I feel hypocritical because I'm on social media, I'm promoting my podcast, I'm talking about health and children, but at the same time, I don't want my kids on social media. And I think the distinction you're right is that you want to use it for good. You want to use it for purpose. And I think if you do it for it for good reason, then I think it can be beneficial. Definitely. We just don't want to be stuck on it. Because just ask yourself, when you're going through it, do you feel stuck? Do you feel like it's controlling you? And if the answer is yes, do something about it. I can see that video games, for example, in my house, we don't have video games, and my son sometimes feels left out of social gatherings. You know, a lot of his friends will play on video games over the internet, and they socialize that way. What I feel is, I don't mind if he plays them at his friend's house, like, if they're together in person and they're playing a game and they're actually socially interacting, that feels better to me than doing it not physically in the same room. Do you have any feelings about getting together with friends and being on media as well? Yeah, definitely, especially because I saw this study or something and it said, like 70% of the conversations that teenage boys are about or on video games, which is kind of crazy to think, because it's mainly about video games, and I can see this too, especially when you're alone in your rooms, just talking through that way, you don't feel the sense of real connection. Instead, it's just through the video game or through your avatar you. So when you're in the same room together, there's a sense of more connection. And instead, you're still going to be on the game, but have a person there. Just say, if you need if you take a break, then you have someone to talk to. And the thing is, we don't have an Xbox or a PS five or any or Nintendo or anything like that. But when you do go to a cousin's house, which is maybe once a month, or once every two months, they have one we do love interacting with them, and it's a way for us to bond, especially with our cousin. Obviously, there's limits where you don't want to spend six, seven hours in your basement alone, just staying on a video game, isolated in a dark room. That, on the other hand, that's a problem. Yeah, that's exactly the kind of screen time that I would encourage for families. If it feels social, it feels like it's fun, okay, you know? But obviously, if it's too many hours, the kids eyes are hurting, they're seeing blurry that point that seems like too much. Like we don't eat so much Ultra processed foods, because we know the harmful effects that it will do. So why would we want to put it into her? Put it into our body, and that we also for screens. We know why we're not going to be doing eight hours of screen time, because it's destructive for our brain. And when you know why you yourself are motivated to help yourself, we don't want to become like people who do spend eight hours and we see them at school, and we've seen what it does, and so we don't want to go down that path as well. So we don't ever go overboard. They're not your role models, exactly, yes. And so we have, we've had good role models. Our mom has been amazing, and we've seen her put restrictions on their self when it comes to devices, and I think that also helps a lot for any parent out there. Honestly, one of the biggest things and best things you can do is be a good role, role model for your teen or your kid, because we don't listen to you, but we do see what you do. And so if you're constantly playing video games or you're constantly on your phone, then we're going to start to be like, okay, my dad does it, or my mom does it, it might be good for us. Or if you're constantly eating the wrong kinds of foods, then we're definitely going to notice that, and it's definitely going to have an effect on us. So I like that you mentioned Ultra processed foods, and that you're self motivated to avoid them. I'd love to talk more about this, because I know a lot of families where they battle about that. Can you describe to parents listening, what did you learn about how these foods affect your body and mood? Because I love that you you on your own want to avoid them. So first of all, I used to have, you know, my favorite food, believe it or not, was Flaming Hot Cheetos and Fanta. 10 years ago. Those are my absolute favorites. And then 10 years later, now it's, I don't miss any of that. And all it took was me recognizing how I felt when I had those foods. And we've learned that, first of all, ultra processed foods, they are directly linked to chronic disease. They're directly linked to hurting our gut bugs, leading to sickness and disease mental illnesses on the rise because of ultra processed foods, and we know last thing we want 20 years down the line, even 10 years down the line, to be living with pre diabetes, to be living with a chronic disease, to have eczema, to have sinus issues all the time, to live in a body that we don't want to live in. And so well, that's especially for me, that's one of the biggest motivators. And I think any kid, any teen, nobody wants to live without health. Nobody wants to live addicted to something. Nobody wants to live like that. And for us, we feel free. I think it takes a lot of maturity to understand that eating healthy will lead to a healthier life for the years and years and years ahead of you, I think is good advice. Now, speaking of advice, one place that I have trouble with is convincing my kids to try some fruits and vegetables to make healthier choices. So if you could give parents one tip to make healthy eating easier at home, what would it be? Honestly, my mom told us to go down the list and we're hungry, right? So we're like, Oh, she'll be like, oh, did you have your vegetables? And like, No. And she's like, Oh, do you have your protein? I'm like, Oh no, your carb? And then like, Oh no, she had to go down the list. So I would have vegetable first, then protein as, like, the main source. And then we also would have had carb for me, like a little treat. You can make food like fun, like, you can put like fruits into a very fun thing. Like our mom, she used to make smoothies out of fruits. And, like, she used to make it so that, because a lot of people, when they think about eating good, real food, they think, Oh, my God, they're you're punishing me by giving me vegetables and stuff. In reality, there's so many different good vegetables besides the classic broccoli and Brussels sprouts and carrots, and there's tons of vegetables that we thought that we might never enjoy, but we actually ended up enjoying a lot. So just making food fun like we. To leave realize that, you know, our mom's putting mushrooms and dandelion greens and, like, all these different types of supplements and all these different types of vegetables into the delicious smoothies she makes. And it's like, hidden, right? Like we're getting all these nutrients without really tasting all of these vegetables. So, yeah, I guess smoothies is a good way of hiding things. I agree. I think smoothies are a hit. That's a good way to get a lot of nutrients into one meal. Yeah, I also think, like, what gossip was talking about? Like you having fun with it, because everybody just thinks about broccoli and broccoli sprouts. Now, that's all right, but it is so much more like there's fruits and vegetables, but each fruits and vegetable, with their color, helps a different way. So like, you can have fun with eating while still getting those nutrients. Like red lowers inflammation. Orange helps reproductive and eye health. Yellow actually helps digestive health, green with detoxification, blue and black with the brain health. That sounds amazing. So I guess my question is to follow up on your point about making it fun and now knowing all the benefits that come from different colors in your diet, how would you suggest making it more fun at mealtime, like having a competition? Who could have one of each. Or what would you suggest you could do that, but talk to someone the podcast, like the mainland talking about rainbow stuff. And then she was, like, you can try to jot down, did you have this? Did you have that? And make a race and like, who can have all the colors in one day? I just really thought that was kind of fun way to put it. Yeah. So some sort of competition or contest, I could see how that would be fun. Okay, this is great, so I will definitely take this advice. And what I'm really learning from you guys is that education has really helped you be motivated to make good choices. So that's fantastic. Now, okay, big question I have, where I struggle as a parent, where I want to help my kids? I'd love to hear from you what's the best way for parents to tell their kids and give them feedback that they want to see different behavior. For example, let's say you guys fight. How do you want your parents to help you out in that situation? Honestly, we're not perfect. We're brothers. It's four or five of us. We've definitely fought sometimes. We've wrestled each other. We've gotten some stuff, and honestly, I don't think siblings can live with each other and not fight. That's just something that it's ingrained in every single family. When I see puppies get together, they're always rough housing and playing. And I think, look, that's like my children one time, my daughter even admitted to me that's their way of having fun. They actually enjoy it a little bit. So I agree with you. It's bound to happen, but let's say it gets to a level that the fighting is not fun anymore. It's more than wrestling, and your parents intervene as a kid. How would you want your parents to talk to you? So our mom told us, like when we were younger, because me and Zane used to fight a lot, and she said, treat the ways that you want to be treated. So if I hit Zan in the face, like, I don't want to be him in the face myself. And she would also say, like, how do you think Zane feels about that? So if something, if, like, a word, comes out that something you know that wasn't supposed to come out, like, how do you think they felt about that? And that builds that empathy, and now we're able to like, feel and know when it gets too far, and just like you might say, treat others the way you want to be treated. And that was our golden rule. It sounds like your mom talking to you about it after the fact and sharing some good wisdom. Did stick with you? Yes, definitely. And especially, I mean, personally, as a teenager and a kid, when your parent can just listen to also your emotions and how you feel about something, and they can advise on your emotions instead of just thinking about themselves and say, Oh, you shouldn't have done this, because you know what, he might have gotten hurt, but maybe instead understand why a teenager did This in the first place, and how an adult could maybe help the situation. So I think that would be helpful to a kid or a teenager. So what I heard you say is, if you're feeling feelings, you're frustrated, you're sad, you have emotions, and you want to talk it out with your parent, what you like is, you want to hear that your parent gets where you're coming from. Yeah, I think that makes sense. I love feeling understood and heard. So that makes a lot of sense to me, that it that a child would want the same thing. That's why, for parents out there that are listening to this, always when you're listening to a teenager, listen to learn. Don't listen to a pop fly. And if we can just learn to do that, the relationship between teens and parents can becomes even more stronger, and I think a lot of teenagers, they don't necessarily don't like an adult. It's just that they just feel a little overwhelmed, and they maybe sometimes feel the need to rebel because they don't fully understand. So when, when the. Parent and the teenager can just come together and really just talk and get on the same level, then a teenager and the parent will have a much better relationship. Plus, I'll add into that, as teenagers, we don't want our parents just lecturing us. We want them there. We want them to have their presence, not for them to come and lecture us over and over and over again, but just to be there for us, be there with us, and just to listen to us and understand us. So it sounds like in a lot of situations, you want to feel like your parents support you by being present, by listening and giving advice when you ask for it, but not necessarily lecturing at you. Exactly, yes, yeah, parents tend to lecture, right? I guess that's something that we tend to do, yeah, yeah. And then what about I'm curious, because there's a lot of parents that I meet that have different thoughts on how to discipline kids. You know, some parents do a lot of grounding and taking the phone away for a long time and really doing a lot of negative consequences. And then some parents are really hands off. They let their kids do a lot, and they never discipline. Thinking about how you guys would want to be as parents now that your children, what do you think would be good advice for parents when they want to discipline their kids? Honestly, you can't have an extreme on either side, and you always want to have balance. And if I think anytime you have balance, you can never really go wrong. Yes, I agree. Isn't that the truth with life? Moderation tends to be the answer to a lot of things. I think. Okay. Now, earlier on the podcast, you were talking about how some helpful advice that you got from a podcast interview you did was teaching you the benefit of going outside into nature. I agree with this completely, and I think my kids know this, but sometimes the struggle I have as a parent is getting my kids out the door as children. Do you have any advice for kids to encourage them to spend more time outside? Is there something fun or something that you think about that makes it more fun and enticing to spend time in nature? Honestly, I think for me, when we're younger, nature, like all of us, we play games, like with sticks and like that makes it more fun, yeah, and especially making it a habit. So really, just scheduling at least, like, couple hours that we can just spend in nature for a little bit would definitely create a better, easier way to ease a teenager or a family into nature routines. I think scheduling would be good for my kids, because sometimes if I tell them, Hey guys, let's go on a hike. We're going to leave in 10 minutes, sometimes that throws them off. But if I give them advance warning, this is what we're going to do on Sunday. We're going to have a nice family hike. We're going to be joined by our cousins. They're much more likely, I think, to be agreeable to do it. So that's good advice. Also, I feel like, like even small time is still good. Doesn't need to be a five hour hike. I completely agree. I think sometimes in our heads, we think it has to be this big, huge adventure where we're gone for hours and hours, but you're right, just a little bit of time goes a long way. You know? What I also find helps my kids is if we do an adventure outdoors with their friends, then they are much more motivated and excited to have to spend time outdoors. Yeah, I think because one of the main things is letting kids be more free when they go outside, and having that freedom definitely helps. It's super boring. If you're just gonna walk in a straight line and you're gonna go down the hike like no kid wants to do that, I agree. And honestly, I think feeling that freedom of being without your parents is important. So along those lines, do you feel like parents nowadays worry too much, you know, or try to control what their kids do too much. You know, I grew up in the 80s and the 90s, and parents didn't always know where we were. And now it seems like there's a lot more that parents worry about, that they try to control. Do you think that's true, and do you think that kids need more independence in general? Honestly, I think independence will always be good for kids, but obviously, like we said, there's always a healthy balance. Like our mom, she isn't, she's not like a helicopter parent, where she's like, where are you what are you doing at this time? What are you doing at Winding with your friends? Like, she'll ask, because, well, she's her mom, but she's never, like, forceful about it. And if we're not able to have some level of healthy balance with independence, how can we be leaders in the world? Because we all need to learn how to do things ourselves. I mean, just having that healthy balance. Okay, so now what I'd like to do is a quick lightning round of questions. If you don't mind taking turns, I'm going to ask you some questions and then just give me a quick, quick answer. Okay, worst technology advancement for kids that's available today, iPad kids, iPads, iPad kids, you said, Yeah, because, honestly, the iPad, when I think about iPad, because a lot of kids now, like, I see a lot of the young kids, especially in Roblox, it is on these the iPads, like, when they're very young, and it's very annoying to me. You. Yes, it's true. And like you said, you can take the iPad. The iPad can go anywhere. It's always with kids at restaurants. I see them all the time, and especially from a very young age. So I like that answer, all right. Favorite podcast guest, you've interviewed our mom. We interviewed our mom. One small healthy habit that actually sticks, drink hydration. Just whenever you wake up, just drink a glass of water. Let's say, if you're in a classroom the entire day, like you're in a desk all day, just have a water bottle right there so you can just drink at any time. And also, one more really important thing that we love to stress is gratitude. US teens, we're the most negative people ever. I hate my life, I hate school, I hate homework. Like, we're pretty negative. And so gratitude helps us shift our mindset from negative to positive. And let's be honest, if we could have that mindset, we can do anything. So just waking up saying, like, maybe if you have a few minutes, like, when I go to onto the bus, just I'm grateful for my eyes, I'm grateful for my ears, I'm grateful for my parents. I'm grateful for what happened yesterday, even writing it down. I know some people like implementing that into your life. It's a life changer. I agree, and I think that's true for so many things in life, like the bus, for example, you could say, I have to go to the bus again. You know, I don't like the bus. I have to wait for the bus. But if you can say, I'm so grateful I get to relax on the bus. I'm so lucky. I'm on my way to school. Anything you can turn into a positive because you're right. Being stuck in the negative, that's just not a healthy way to exist. You can't achieve anything when you're negative. Let's be completely honest here. And no one wants one wants to be around it. I find that the more positive you are, you're gonna attract that same energy into your life, and it's only gonna make things better. It's great that you've learned that from such a young age. Okay, most overrated health trend, anything that they say that you know what? This is gonna work like, super fast. You know, if you just like, Take this, do this, every day, you'll become like the most like, amazing person. Like, that's not actually gonna happen, no? So you don't like any quick fixes, yeah, especially if it's not expert back, like you go on Tiktok, there's a bunch of random stuff. If it's the expert back, it's just a waste of time. One message you want every parent to hear. Listen to teens. Listen to us, listen to listen and understand. Don't listen to reply. One message you want every teen to hear. Every teen should invest in their body. It's the biggest investment, because when you grow up, you're going to regret so much that you should have taken more care of your body. And when you start this habit, have these habits at a young age, you can really grow your future on from there. And if you want to achieve a true potential, that all starts by taking care of your mental and physical health. And lastly, tell everybody, where can they find your book? So right now you can pre order. It's coming out December 11, so definitely go check that out. You can find it on the teen health revolution.com pre order it. We have bonuses as well. Barnes and Nobles, Amazon, everywhere, the teen health revolution.com. I love it. And tell everybody who is the book geared towards, is it for parents? Is it for teens? Is it for kids, or is it for everybody? It's for everybody, but it's mainly targeting the teens. But also, parents can also use it to educate their teens. This book does not exclude any age, yeah. Also with jokes. I had the jokes, yeah. And we have some really good illustrations by me, and it's all expert backed. And at the end of each chapter we have, what do the holistic kids do? So it's all practical things anybody can really do. I'm very happy for you guys. I'm really happy for your mom and your family, and I love that you've created something so meaningful that you're gonna put out there. So congratulations, and I can't wait to read it. We're so honored. Yeah, we had so much fun on this podcast. Thank you so much. Thank you for listening, and I hope you enjoyed this week's episode of your child is normal. Also, if you could take a moment and leave a five star review, wherever it is you listen to podcasts, I would greatly appreciate it. It really makes a difference to help this podcast grow.