After years of working in the real estate industry, Thomas Ma saw the shift toward large proptech and decided to develop a new way for agents to showcase their listings. REAL Messenger (REAL) is the No. 1 social app for real estate, and Thomas’ goal, he says, is to make agents’ lives easier. One way that REAL is shaking up the space is adding a video feature to listings that give buyers more than the standard picture perfect photos and a description from the listings agent. Thomas joins the Politely Pushy Podcast to talk about his background, the state of the industry and what he sees for the future proptech, real estate and AI and REAL.