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We don't know how"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3290.22,"endTime":3296.55,"body":"extraordinary we are. Because we"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3296.55,"endTime":3300.27,"body":"are in our cells all the time."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3296.55,"endTime":3300.27,"body":"You know like you You're so"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3300.27,"endTime":3304.14,"body":"familiar with your own life that"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3300.27,"endTime":3304.14,"body":"you think I owe this, whatever."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3304.62,"endTime":3309.0,"body":"But yeah, that's not true."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3304.62,"endTime":3309.0,"body":"You're the Yeah. There's only"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3309.0,"endTime":3311.79,"body":"one of you living your life and"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3309.0,"endTime":3311.79,"body":"seeing the world the way you see"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3311.79,"endTime":3314.01,"body":"it. So use that."},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3314.31,"endTime":3318.24,"body":"Yeah, exactly."},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3314.31,"endTime":3318.24,"body":"Totally. Yeah, completely."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3319.2,"endTime":3321.39,"body":"So thank you"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3319.2,"endTime":3321.39,"body":"so much, Jessica, for all your"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3321.42,"endTime":3326.1,"body":"amazing information and all of"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3321.42,"endTime":3326.1,"body":"your great advice. I'm going to"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3326.1,"endTime":3326.94,"body":"use some of it to"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3329.07,"endTime":3332.82,"body":"Oh, thank you"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3329.07,"endTime":3332.82,"body":"so much, Laura. It has been a"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3332.82,"endTime":3336.36,"body":"huge pleasure to be talking to"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3332.82,"endTime":3336.36,"body":"you. So thanks for inviting me"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3336.36,"endTime":3340.29,"body":"actually, the podcast is, it's"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3336.36,"endTime":3340.29,"body":"been a lovely experience. Yes,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3340.29,"endTime":3340.5,"body":"it's"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3340.5,"endTime":3342.63,"body":"been a very"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3340.5,"endTime":3342.63,"body":"lovely experience. I agree."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3342.66,"endTime":3343.95,"body":"Thank you so much."},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3344.64,"endTime":3347.19,"body":"Thank you and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3344.64,"endTime":3347.19,"body":"I hope that we carry on in touch"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3347.22,"endTime":3351.09,"body":"because I think we have so many"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3347.22,"endTime":3351.09,"body":"of these our presses so many"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3351.09,"endTime":3356.79,"body":"things in common. So I'm really"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3351.09,"endTime":3356.79,"body":"looking forward to this. New"},{"speaker":"Jessica Oliveras","startTime":3356.79,"endTime":3358.5,"body":"fellow artists relationship."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3360.24,"endTime":3361.38,"body":"new"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3360.24,"endTime":3361.38,"body":"friendships."}]}