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Like, you know, I was"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":2542.38,"endTime":2545.08,"body":"like Uber hiring like, can I"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":2542.38,"endTime":2545.08,"body":"just drive for Uber? Like, I"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":2545.08,"endTime":2549.04,"body":"don't I don't want to, you know."},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":2545.08,"endTime":2549.04,"body":"So then I went, it was like my"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":2549.04,"endTime":2555.31,"body":"most depressing state. I think I"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":2549.04,"endTime":2555.31,"body":"gained 40 pounds. Wow. One"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":2555.31,"endTime":2558.49,"body":"month, one to two months. Like"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":2555.31,"endTime":2558.49,"body":"it was bad. I was almost 200"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":2558.49,"endTime":2562.84,"body":"pounds. 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Two months"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3518.79,"endTime":3523.08,"body":"ago, at WonderCon, you know, the"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3518.79,"endTime":3523.08,"body":"art director came up and saw my"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3523.08,"endTime":3528.54,"body":"work. And, you know, so they"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3523.08,"endTime":3528.54,"body":"invited me up to do a stage"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3528.54,"endTime":3531.57,"body":"panel with them, like behind our"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3528.54,"endTime":3531.57,"body":"talk at San Diego Comic Con,"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3531.78,"endTime":3534.33,"body":"that's going to be next month as"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3531.78,"endTime":3534.33,"body":"well. And they're going to be"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3534.33,"endTime":3536.91,"body":"debuting some of the works I've"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3534.33,"endTime":3536.91,"body":"been doing for them as well as"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3537.21,"endTime":3541.02,"body":"the time lapse that I've been"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3537.21,"endTime":3541.02,"body":"doing for them as well. So I'm"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3541.44,"endTime":3544.89,"body":"super excited for that. Because"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3541.44,"endTime":3544.89,"body":"I've never thought I mean, you"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3544.89,"endTime":3547.56,"body":"see pictures of celebrities"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3544.89,"endTime":3547.56,"body":"where people who are like, you"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3547.56,"endTime":3550.5,"body":"know, you know, art celebrities,"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3547.56,"endTime":3550.5,"body":"like on those stages were like,"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3550.5,"endTime":3553.44,"body":"you know, behind the tables with"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3550.5,"endTime":3553.44,"body":"their name, you see images of"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3553.44,"endTime":3555.93,"body":"that you never think that you"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3553.44,"endTime":3555.93,"body":"actually be a part of that. But"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3556.44,"endTime":3560.67,"body":"here I am. So that's a that's"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3556.44,"endTime":3560.67,"body":"something that's also going to"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3560.67,"endTime":3566.73,"body":"be happening so. So it came"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3560.67,"endTime":3566.73,"body":"about? Yes, yeah. So you know,"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3567.24,"endTime":3570.87,"body":"just keep it on a download"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3567.24,"endTime":3570.87,"body":"because I think they want to"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3570.87,"endTime":3574.08,"body":"wait to announce me word of"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3570.87,"endTime":3574.08,"body":"mouth, then I'm a part of them"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3574.56,"endTime":3578.49,"body":"went to when they announced it"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3574.56,"endTime":3578.49,"body":"like next month. That should be"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3578.49,"endTime":3585.09,"body":"fine. Yeah, we're not saying one"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3578.49,"endTime":3585.09,"body":"podcast. So yeah, I'm not seeing"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3585.09,"endTime":3587.76,"body":"what I'm doing for them. So I"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3585.09,"endTime":3587.76,"body":"mean, I am doing payments for"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3587.76,"endTime":3588.87,"body":"them. I'm offering which"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3587.76,"endTime":3588.87,"body":"paintings of"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3588.87,"endTime":3591.63,"body":"course."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3588.87,"endTime":3591.63,"body":"Exactly. Yeah. Like clearly"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3591.63,"endTime":3593.31,"body":"you're making paintings for"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3591.63,"endTime":3593.31,"body":"them. I mean, that's not a"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3593.31,"endTime":3597.21,"body":"secret. Yeah. And that's so"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3593.31,"endTime":3597.21,"body":"awesome. Congrats."},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3597.93,"endTime":3600.0,"body":"Thank you. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3597.93,"endTime":3600.0,"body":"that's why I feel like I'm"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3600.0,"endTime":3603.69,"body":"Slowly stepping away from like"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3600.0,"endTime":3603.69,"body":"the fine art world and edging my"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3603.69,"endTime":3607.68,"body":"way slowly into like the more"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3603.69,"endTime":3607.68,"body":"entertainment arts world. And"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3607.71,"endTime":3610.86,"body":"you know, I felt weird about it"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3607.71,"endTime":3610.86,"body":"for the longest time, but now I"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3610.86,"endTime":3613.38,"body":"feel like you know what, these"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3610.86,"endTime":3613.38,"body":"are more white people. I feel"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3613.38,"endTime":3616.74,"body":"like I have more in common with"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3613.38,"endTime":3616.74,"body":"these guys, then, you know, no"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3616.74,"endTime":3619.2,"body":"offense to the fine arts or No,"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3616.74,"endTime":3619.2,"body":"but I always feel like I don't"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3619.2,"endTime":3623.85,"body":"really have that much in common"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3619.2,"endTime":3623.85,"body":"besides liking painting, but"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3624.21,"endTime":3626.94,"body":"you just got"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3624.21,"endTime":3626.94,"body":"to follow your tribe and follow,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3626.94,"endTime":3631.83,"body":"you know, yeah, that that, oh,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3626.94,"endTime":3631.83,"body":"that internal human connection?"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3631.83,"endTime":3635.46,"body":"You know, it's like, yeah, you"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3631.83,"endTime":3635.46,"body":"can't force a connection that"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3635.46,"endTime":3638.7,"body":"isn't there. And I totally"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3635.46,"endTime":3638.7,"body":"understand that. Because I'm"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3638.7,"endTime":3642.78,"body":"also breaking away a lot more"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3638.7,"endTime":3642.78,"body":"from the academic. I mean, I"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3642.78,"endTime":3645.48,"body":"haven't shown the work that I've"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3642.78,"endTime":3645.48,"body":"been doing, because it means"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3645.72,"endTime":3648.75,"body":"hiding from the universe, but I"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3645.72,"endTime":3648.75,"body":"totally understand that desire"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3648.75,"endTime":3653.94,"body":"to just, you know, maybe not say"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3648.75,"endTime":3653.94,"body":"goodbye, but also say, I'm gonna"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3653.94,"endTime":3656.37,"body":"go over there now. You know, for"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3653.94,"endTime":3656.37,"body":"sure."},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3656.4,"endTime":3658.86,"body":"Yeah, absolutely. I"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3656.4,"endTime":3658.86,"body":"think we have to do that. I"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3658.86,"endTime":3663.0,"body":"think I really think that we"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3658.86,"endTime":3663.0,"body":"ourselves to do that. Really"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3663.0,"endTime":3666.39,"body":"find out truly what it is we are"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3663.0,"endTime":3666.39,"body":"actually interested in, you"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3666.39,"endTime":3666.63,"body":"know,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3666.66,"endTime":3669.24,"body":"yes. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3666.66,"endTime":3669.24,"body":"Give ourselves that freedom to"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3669.24,"endTime":3673.53,"body":"explore and communicate with"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3669.24,"endTime":3673.53,"body":"other branches of the arts that"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3673.53,"endTime":3678.18,"body":"maybe we wouldn't have thought"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3673.53,"endTime":3678.18,"body":"would impact us so deep. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3678.66,"endTime":3684.15,"body":"Yeah, for sure. Oh, hell, yeah."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3678.66,"endTime":3684.15,"body":"Great. And then where can people"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3684.15,"endTime":3685.17,"body":"find more of your work?"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3686.25,"endTime":3692.61,"body":"Um, I just updated"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3686.25,"endTime":3692.61,"body":"my website. So and that actually"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3692.61,"endTime":3696.3,"body":"includes the newest painting"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3692.61,"endTime":3696.3,"body":"that I'm going to be debuting at"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3696.3,"endTime":3699.24,"body":"San Diego Comic Con. It's like"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3696.3,"endTime":3699.24,"body":"this giant space piece. It's"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3699.24,"endTime":3702.18,"body":"like this, you know, female"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3699.24,"endTime":3702.18,"body":"astronaut with like, Planet"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3702.18,"endTime":3705.96,"body":"exploding behind her. It was a"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3702.18,"endTime":3705.96,"body":"more ambitious pieces. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3705.99,"endTime":3708.72,"body":"Like I really tried taking,"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3705.99,"endTime":3708.72,"body":"because I did like a ghostwriter"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3708.72,"endTime":3711.99,"body":"piece before. And this is me"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3708.72,"endTime":3711.99,"body":"just taking the elements of that"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3711.99,"endTime":3717.57,"body":"and just expanding it tenfold."},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3711.99,"endTime":3717.57,"body":"So yeah, I just updated my"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3717.57,"endTime":3721.62,"body":"website on that. And I try to"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3717.57,"endTime":3721.62,"body":"keep my website as updated as"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3721.62,"endTime":3728.34,"body":"possible. And Instagram, but you"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3721.62,"endTime":3728.34,"body":"know, yeah, so my website and"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3728.34,"endTime":3732.03,"body":"Instagram both under my name,"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3728.34,"endTime":3732.03,"body":"Kevin Q, so you can find it like"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3732.03,"endTime":3732.33,"body":"that?"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3732.63,"endTime":3734.43,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3732.63,"endTime":3734.43,"body":"Perfect. Yeah. And we'll include"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3734.43,"endTime":3736.86,"body":"all your links as well in the"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3734.43,"endTime":3736.86,"body":"show notes. Oh, people. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3736.86,"endTime":3739.26,"body":"yeah. Well, that's"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3736.86,"endTime":3739.26,"body":"good. That's easy. Yeah. That's,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3740.16,"endTime":3742.71,"body":"yeah. Well,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3740.16,"endTime":3742.71,"body":"awesome. Thank you so much, Kai."},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3743.31,"endTime":3744.78,"body":"Thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Kai Lun Qu","startTime":3743.31,"endTime":3744.78,"body":"for having me."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3745.14,"endTime":3746.67,"body":"Of course"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3745.14,"endTime":3746.67,"body":"anytime."}]}