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And"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4691.16,"endTime":4695.21,"body":"but Yeah, we'll definitely have"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4695.21,"endTime":4697.19,"body":"some more shows in the fall."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4697.82,"endTime":4700.94,"body":"Great. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4697.82,"endTime":4700.94,"body":"And then where can people find"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4700.94,"endTime":4701.6,"body":"more of your work?"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4702.47,"endTime":4707.09,"body":"My work is on my"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4702.47,"endTime":4707.09,"body":"website, which is Hillary Scott"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4707.09,"endTime":4713.12,"body":"fine. art.com. And my instagram"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4707.09,"endTime":4713.12,"body":"handle, which is i a lot of not"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4713.12,"endTime":4715.34,"body":"just finished works, but a lot"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4713.12,"endTime":4715.34,"body":"of works in progress behind the"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4715.34,"endTime":4721.4,"body":"scenes stuff is Hillary Scott"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4715.34,"endTime":4721.4,"body":"underscore fine art. And if you"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4721.4,"endTime":4724.61,"body":"follow me there, you can see all"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4721.4,"endTime":4724.61,"body":"the works in progress."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4725.9,"endTime":4728.24,"body":"Yeah, well,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4725.9,"endTime":4728.24,"body":"thank you so much for your time,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4728.24,"endTime":4731.81,"body":"Hillary and for your awesome"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4728.24,"endTime":4731.81,"body":"advice. I'm the space"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4731.81,"endTime":4735.02,"body":"you so much for"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4731.81,"endTime":4735.02,"body":"having me on. Yes, it was"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4735.02,"endTime":4738.02,"body":"wonderful talking art. I could"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4735.02,"endTime":4738.02,"body":"talk shop all day."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4739.46,"endTime":4740.3,"body":"off me too."},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4743.24,"endTime":4745.67,"body":"I know, I'm like,"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4743.24,"endTime":4745.67,"body":"I can't talk about this with my"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4745.67,"endTime":4748.61,"body":"family as much they you know,"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4745.67,"endTime":4748.61,"body":"but yeah, get me with another"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4748.61,"endTime":4752.84,"body":"artist. And I'll talk about this"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4748.61,"endTime":4752.84,"body":"stuff all day. So it's been"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4752.84,"endTime":4756.53,"body":"wonderful, wonderful. Just chat"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4752.84,"endTime":4756.53,"body":"about all these topics. And"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4756.56,"endTime":4758.6,"body":"again, thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Hillary Scott","startTime":4756.56,"endTime":4758.6,"body":"having me on."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4758.93,"endTime":4762.38,"body":"Of course."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4758.93,"endTime":4762.38,"body":"Thank you for your time. All"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4762.38,"endTime":4763.31,"body":"right. Thank you."}]}