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And"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":4997.52,"endTime":4999.11,"body":"that's just Aaron shirt.com."},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5000.82,"endTime":5006.82,"body":"So the galleries that show up"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5000.82,"endTime":5006.82,"body":"right now are mountain trails"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5006.82,"endTime":5012.25,"body":"gallery in Bozeman, Montana, the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5006.82,"endTime":5012.25,"body":"Houston gallery gallery in Davao"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5012.25,"endTime":5016.36,"body":"Island, and Elin gallery West."},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5018.7,"endTime":5023.11,"body":"And that is in Phillipsburg,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5018.7,"endTime":5023.11,"body":"Montana. Stay tuned, I am going"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5023.11,"endTime":5028.0,"body":"to start showing with a gallery"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5023.11,"endTime":5028.0,"body":"in Salt Lake. So check back on"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5028.0,"endTime":5031.81,"body":"my website. So putting that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5028.0,"endTime":5031.81,"body":"together. So that'll be a new"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5031.81,"endTime":5037.36,"body":"one. And then and then there's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5031.81,"endTime":5037.36,"body":"just my studio and the work I do"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5037.36,"endTime":5037.72,"body":"there."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5039.25,"endTime":5041.17,"body":"Yeah, and"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5039.25,"endTime":5041.17,"body":"what about your Instagram?"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5042.97,"endTime":5047.32,"body":"My Instagram is"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5042.97,"endTime":5047.32,"body":"at Aaron. Sure. Just my name"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5047.32,"endTime":5051.76,"body":"spelled out. And Facebook is"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5047.32,"endTime":5051.76,"body":"just Aaron sure, as well."},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5052.3,"endTime":5052.81,"body":"Perfect."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5052.96,"endTime":5055.36,"body":"Well, thank"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5052.96,"endTime":5055.36,"body":"you so much, Aaron, for all of"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5055.36,"endTime":5060.4,"body":"your amazing, wise advice. I'm"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5055.36,"endTime":5060.4,"body":"definitely going to apply a lot"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5060.4,"endTime":5064.66,"body":"of that to my own work and to my"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5060.4,"endTime":5064.66,"body":"own marketing side. So thanks"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5064.66,"endTime":5065.68,"body":"again for being here."},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5066.61,"endTime":5068.56,"body":"Thank you for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5066.61,"endTime":5068.56,"body":"having me. It was a lovely"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5068.62,"endTime":5070.66,"body":"conversation. Really appreciate"},{"speaker":"Aaron Schuerr","startTime":5068.62,"endTime":5070.66,"body":"it."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5071.59,"endTime":5072.43,"body":"Absolutely."}]}