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How are you"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":140.79,"endTime":142.47,"body":"today?"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":142.98,"endTime":144.87,"body":"Thank you so"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":142.98,"endTime":144.87,"body":"much. I'm great. I'm great."},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":144.87,"endTime":145.83,"body":"Thank you for having me."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":146.46,"endTime":148.2,"body":"Oh, thank"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":146.46,"endTime":148.2,"body":"you for being here. And for"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":148.2,"endTime":151.68,"body":"being so excited to be here,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":148.2,"endTime":151.68,"body":"too. 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It's October 11,"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2856.99,"endTime":2863.05,"body":"through the 13th. So that's"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2863.05,"endTime":2868.21,"body":"coming up. I'm super excited to"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2863.05,"endTime":2868.21,"body":"run a workshop out there. And"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2868.21,"endTime":2872.23,"body":"I'm also at one of the galleries"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2868.21,"endTime":2872.23,"body":"that represents my work, they're"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2872.23,"endTime":2876.73,"body":"having a summer salon, and I I"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2872.23,"endTime":2876.73,"body":"have eight new paintings that"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2876.73,"endTime":2880.48,"body":"are going to kind of debut"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2876.73,"endTime":2880.48,"body":"there. So that's a canary"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2880.48,"endTime":2884.95,"body":"gallery in Birmingham, Alabama."},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2880.48,"endTime":2884.95,"body":"And that's an August so those"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2884.95,"endTime":2890.11,"body":"are kind of the two the big high"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2884.95,"endTime":2890.11,"body":"points coming up for me, so,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":2891.49,"endTime":2896.05,"body":"so exciting."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":2891.49,"endTime":2896.05,"body":"I'm excited. Yeah. And then"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":2896.05,"endTime":2897.91,"body":"where can people find more of"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":2896.05,"endTime":2897.91,"body":"your work?"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2898.81,"endTime":2901.84,"body":"So my websites"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2898.81,"endTime":2901.84,"body":"the best place I have everything"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2901.84,"endTime":2905.32,"body":"that's, you know, in the"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2901.84,"endTime":2905.32,"body":"galleries on my website, blether"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2905.32,"endTime":2911.02,"body":"whole art.com. And the galleries"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2905.32,"endTime":2911.02,"body":"have websites, but everything"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2911.02,"endTime":2914.26,"body":"can be found links to all of"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2911.02,"endTime":2914.26,"body":"that through my my own personal"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2914.26,"endTime":2917.71,"body":"website. So yeah. Blair after"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2914.26,"endTime":2917.71,"body":"alarm.com"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":2918.82,"endTime":2921.22,"body":"Perfect."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":2918.82,"endTime":2921.22,"body":"Well, thank you so much Blair,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":2921.22,"endTime":2924.34,"body":"for your time and for your"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":2921.22,"endTime":2924.34,"body":"advice and for being on the"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":2924.34,"endTime":2925.48,"body":"show. Thank"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2925.48,"endTime":2927.61,"body":"you so much."},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2925.48,"endTime":2927.61,"body":"It's an honor to be here. I've"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2927.61,"endTime":2929.8,"body":"been really excited for this. So"},{"speaker":"Blair Atherholt","startTime":2927.61,"endTime":2929.8,"body":"thank you."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":2930.64,"endTime":2931.48,"body":"Thank you"}]}