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And"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3616.38,"endTime":3619.5,"body":"then, what is your website?"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3620.76,"endTime":3622.22,"body":"To Paul badge"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3620.76,"endTime":3622.22,"body":"painting.com"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3623.96,"endTime":3625.64,"body":"perfect. No,"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3625.7,"endTime":3627.62,"body":"I don't know. I get"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3625.7,"endTime":3627.62,"body":"more inquiries about painting"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3627.62,"endTime":3630.56,"body":"houses than I do anything else."},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3627.62,"endTime":3630.56,"body":"But I'm just"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3633.44,"endTime":3636.56,"body":"kidding. Oh,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3633.44,"endTime":3636.56,"body":"man. Oh, you're hilarious, Paul."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3636.68,"endTime":3642.22,"body":"Um, well, Paul, do you also, do"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3636.68,"endTime":3642.22,"body":"you also have social media and"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3642.22,"endTime":3644.86,"body":"do you want to say what your"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3642.22,"endTime":3644.86,"body":"YouTube handle is as well?"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3646.84,"endTime":3650.74,"body":"On YouTube, I'm Paul"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3646.84,"endTime":3650.74,"body":"batch. On Instagram, I'm also"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3650.74,"endTime":3656.56,"body":"Paul batch. That's where I'm"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3650.74,"endTime":3656.56,"body":"usually the most. I do some. I"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3656.56,"endTime":3660.36,"body":"don't do a lot on Tiktok. I've"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3656.56,"endTime":3660.36,"body":"been trying to dig just get them"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3660.36,"endTime":3663.84,"body":"all, you know, but it's just"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3660.36,"endTime":3663.84,"body":"time consuming. But yeah, I"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3663.84,"endTime":3666.36,"body":"mean, usually just Paul badge,"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3663.84,"endTime":3666.36,"body":"perfect,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3666.72,"endTime":3668.46,"body":"awesome. And"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3666.72,"endTime":3668.46,"body":"then I'll include all of your"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3668.46,"endTime":3670.26,"body":"links in the show notes as well."},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3670.74,"endTime":3673.14,"body":"That would be better"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3670.74,"endTime":3673.14,"body":"than me just being like Paul"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3673.14,"endTime":3674.76,"body":"badge. Well, I"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3674.76,"endTime":3676.44,"body":"mean, if"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3674.76,"endTime":3676.44,"body":"someone's already like looking"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3676.44,"endTime":3680.42,"body":"for it, it's a lot easier. But"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3676.44,"endTime":3680.42,"body":"yeah, they can also just check"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3680.42,"endTime":3684.38,"body":"out the show notes for the"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3680.42,"endTime":3684.38,"body":"links, in case they want to do"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3684.38,"endTime":3687.68,"body":"that instead. But yeah, thank"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3684.38,"endTime":3687.68,"body":"you so much. Thanks"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3689.12,"endTime":3690.98,"body":"for having me,"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3689.12,"endTime":3690.98,"body":"Laura. This has been great."},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3692.42,"endTime":3693.92,"body":"Thank you. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3693.92,"endTime":3696.14,"body":"you do."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3693.92,"endTime":3696.14,"body":"You're hilarious. I was laughing"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3696.14,"endTime":3696.62,"body":"the whole time."},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3699.02,"endTime":3703.24,"body":"Oh, man, I know."},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3699.02,"endTime":3703.24,"body":"Yes, yeah, all right, all the"},{"speaker":"Paul Batch","startTime":3703.24,"endTime":3704.02,"body":"best. Take care."}]}