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Sarah gives us a quick"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":117.1,"endTime":120.22,"body":"demonstration on how she starts"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":120.22,"endTime":123.42,"body":"out her crow paintings. Sarah"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":120.22,"endTime":123.42,"body":"also tells us how she has"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":123.42,"endTime":126.06,"body":"balanced her art making with"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":123.42,"endTime":126.06,"body":"teaching, using workshops and"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":126.06,"endTime":129.0,"body":"online classes to supplement her"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":126.06,"endTime":129.0,"body":"income and share her artistic"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":129.0,"endTime":132.78,"body":"philosophy. 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Thank you."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":145.22,"endTime":147.14,"body":"Yeah, I'm"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":145.22,"endTime":147.14,"body":"happy to have you. I'm so"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":147.14,"endTime":151.28,"body":"excited to talk to you, because"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":147.14,"endTime":151.28,"body":"you are a wonderful painter."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":151.28,"endTime":155.42,"body":"Your water color just so"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":151.28,"endTime":155.42,"body":"gorgeous. 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And then actually, I"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4799.44,"endTime":4804.74,"body":"wanted to ask you if you have"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4804.74,"endTime":4810.62,"body":"any final advice for someone who"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4804.74,"endTime":4810.62,"body":"wants to be an artist, and, you"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4810.62,"endTime":4814.46,"body":"know, figure out what their"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4810.62,"endTime":4814.46,"body":"their thing is,"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4815.6,"endTime":4819.26,"body":"just paint. Just"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4815.6,"endTime":4819.26,"body":"paint. You have to practice."},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4819.8,"endTime":4825.34,"body":"There's no There's no Matt."},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4819.8,"endTime":4825.34,"body":"There's no way around that you"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4825.34,"endTime":4830.92,"body":"have to practice. There's no"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4825.34,"endTime":4830.92,"body":"magic feather. There's no secret"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4830.92,"endTime":4835.18,"body":"formula. I don't have a I don't"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4830.92,"endTime":4835.18,"body":"have a particular brush that"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4835.18,"endTime":4839.74,"body":"makes me better. I don't have a"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4835.18,"endTime":4839.74,"body":"particular pigment, because"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4839.74,"endTime":4842.88,"body":"everybody's like, Oh, what brush"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4839.74,"endTime":4842.88,"body":"is that? Oh, what paint it? And"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4842.88,"endTime":4846.18,"body":"it has nothing to do that. It"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4842.88,"endTime":4846.18,"body":"just has to do with how many"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4846.18,"endTime":4851.58,"body":"hours you put into practicing."},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4846.18,"endTime":4851.58,"body":"So that would be my advice, is"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4851.58,"endTime":4856.32,"body":"you have to, you have to treat"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4851.58,"endTime":4856.32,"body":"it like it really matters to"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4856.32,"endTime":4860.16,"body":"you. The only way to it's the"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4856.32,"endTime":4860.16,"body":"only way to move forward with"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4860.16,"endTime":4865.22,"body":"it. 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And then if"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4888.1,"endTime":4890.38,"body":"you find that, oh, maybe this is"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4888.1,"endTime":4890.38,"body":"more of a hobby thing, that's"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4890.38,"endTime":4895.9,"body":"totally fine, too. Yeah, yeah,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4890.38,"endTime":4895.9,"body":"yeah, it's Yeah, totally agree."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4895.9,"endTime":4900.1,"body":"It just it takes. It takes the"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4895.9,"endTime":4900.1,"body":"time it takes, for sure, but"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4900.1,"endTime":4904.2,"body":"yeah. 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Sarah"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4952.0,"endTime":4957.22,"body":"yeoman.com, website through Faso"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4952.0,"endTime":4957.22,"body":"Fine Art Studio online. So"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4957.22,"endTime":4959.26,"body":"yeah. And"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4957.22,"endTime":4959.26,"body":"then, do you have any upcoming"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4959.32,"endTime":4962.22,"body":"exhibitions that you would also"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4959.32,"endTime":4962.22,"body":"like to promote,"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4962.22,"endTime":4966.36,"body":"oh, not really. I"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4962.22,"endTime":4966.36,"body":"do some group exhibitions in the"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4966.36,"endTime":4972.54,"body":"summer up in the Adirondacks, at"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4966.36,"endTime":4972.54,"body":"gallery 46 in Lake Placid, and"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4972.54,"endTime":4976.26,"body":"then at Abenaki Studios, which"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4972.54,"endTime":4976.26,"body":"is where I paint, but no"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4976.26,"endTime":4978.84,"body":"specific gallery shows."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4980.46,"endTime":4983.06,"body":"Well, thank"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4980.46,"endTime":4983.06,"body":"you so much, Sarah, for all the"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4983.36,"endTime":4986.24,"body":"wonderful slide shows and the"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4983.36,"endTime":4986.24,"body":"demo and all the wonderful"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4986.24,"endTime":4991.22,"body":"advice. I'm also going to be"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4986.24,"endTime":4991.22,"body":"taking some notes from this, and"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4991.22,"endTime":4994.7,"body":"I'm going to be applying it for"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":4991.22,"endTime":4994.7,"body":"my own work. So thank you. Oh,"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4994.7,"endTime":4997.34,"body":"well, thank you so"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4994.7,"endTime":4997.34,"body":"much. I really enjoyed speaking"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4997.34,"endTime":5001.38,"body":"with you and speaking with your"},{"speaker":"Sarah Yeoman","startTime":4997.34,"endTime":5001.38,"body":"larger audience. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5001.62,"endTime":5003.06,"body":"awesome."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":5001.62,"endTime":5003.06,"body":"Thank you for."}]}