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Her artistic"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":94.16,"endTime":96.92,"body":"philosophy centers on being"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":94.16,"endTime":96.92,"body":"fully immersed in her work,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":96.98,"endTime":99.74,"body":"doing everything to the best of"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":96.98,"endTime":99.74,"body":"her ability and avoiding the"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":99.74,"endTime":104.74,"body":"trap of imitating other styles."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":99.74,"endTime":104.74,"body":"Finally, Chris reminds us sign"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":104.74,"endTime":107.2,"body":"up to her newsletter to stay"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":104.74,"endTime":107.2,"body":"updated with her gorgeous new"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":107.2,"endTime":111.82,"body":"work and fantastic advice."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":107.2,"endTime":111.82,"body":"Welcome Chris to the BoldBrush"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":111.82,"endTime":113.08,"body":"show. How are you today?"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":113.44,"endTime":114.76,"body":"I am good,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":117.22,"endTime":119.5,"body":"and I'm so"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":117.22,"endTime":119.5,"body":"excited to have you, because"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":119.5,"endTime":124.62,"body":"when I saw your watercolors, I"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":119.5,"endTime":124.62,"body":"was blown away. It is so"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":124.62,"endTime":129.78,"body":"meticulous, so vivid. 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Then I wanted to ask"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3599.259,"endTime":3603.239,"body":"you, too, do you have any"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3603.299,"endTime":3605.639,"body":"upcoming exhibitions, or is"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3603.299,"endTime":3605.639,"body":"there anything that you are"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3605.639,"endTime":3607.559,"body":"preparing for that you would"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3605.639,"endTime":3607.559,"body":"like to promote?"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3609.84,"endTime":3612.18,"body":"I moved. 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I"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3635.9,"endTime":3638.96,"body":"still paint every day, and I"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3638.96,"endTime":3642.82,"body":"still enter shows, but I'm"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3638.96,"endTime":3642.82,"body":"trying to find my way around"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3642.82,"endTime":3646.9,"body":"here. 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You"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3669.78,"endTime":3677.1,"body":"know, it's sometimes I like when"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3677.1,"endTime":3680.72,"body":"one when my paintings sell, I"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3677.1,"endTime":3680.72,"body":"like to be happy with the sale,"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3682.28,"endTime":3688.28,"body":"but when you start paying high"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3682.28,"endTime":3688.28,"body":"commissions and shipping costs"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3689.54,"endTime":3695.3,"body":"and you end up with less than"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3689.54,"endTime":3695.3,"body":"40% or less than less than 50%"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3695.66,"endTime":3699.62,"body":"let's say around 40% of your"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3695.66,"endTime":3699.62,"body":"asking price, it's not always a"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3699.62,"endTime":3706.84,"body":"good feeling. So I so anyway,"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3699.62,"endTime":3706.84,"body":"that being said, I like, I like"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3706.84,"endTime":3713.26,"body":"local representation, because"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3706.84,"endTime":3713.26,"body":"then I can drive Exactly, yeah,"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3713.26,"endTime":3716.92,"body":"and that's so right now,"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3713.26,"endTime":3716.92,"body":"nothing's going on until I,"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3716.98,"endTime":3719.8,"body":"until I figure out what's going"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3716.98,"endTime":3719.8,"body":"on around here."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3720.58,"endTime":3722.7,"body":"Got it"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3720.58,"endTime":3722.7,"body":"awesome. But then if someone"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3722.7,"endTime":3725.46,"body":"does want to see your work,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3722.7,"endTime":3725.46,"body":"where can they see it?"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3726.239,"endTime":3730.679,"body":"Art collected"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3726.239,"endTime":3730.679,"body":"gallery in Cincinnati, actually"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3730.679,"endTime":3732.059,"body":"designed their logo for"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3732.06,"endTime":3736.98,"body":"them. Oh,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3732.06,"endTime":3736.98,"body":"cool. That's awesome. Yeah. And"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3736.98,"endTime":3738.78,"body":"then what is your website?"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3739.739,"endTime":3743.599,"body":"It's Chris"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3739.739,"endTime":3743.599,"body":"pinsky.com, easy, easy, easy."},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3744.919,"endTime":3750.019,"body":"Yes, I get these. I get these"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3744.919,"endTime":3750.019,"body":"emails all the time from these"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3750.019,"endTime":3754.099,"body":"developers that are telling me"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3750.019,"endTime":3754.099,"body":"my website isn't getting me all"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3754.099,"endTime":3758.959,"body":"of the they don't have all of"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3754.099,"endTime":3758.959,"body":"the keywords for me to get high"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3758.959,"endTime":3763.479,"body":"Google rankings. And I just"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3758.959,"endTime":3763.479,"body":"think I don't need high Google"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3763.479,"endTime":3766.719,"body":"rankings, because all they need"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3763.479,"endTime":3766.719,"body":"to know is my name. And if they"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3766.719,"endTime":3770.259,"body":"Google my name, they will find"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3766.719,"endTime":3770.259,"body":"me, because what else are they"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3770.259,"endTime":3772.839,"body":"going to look I mean, if they're"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3770.259,"endTime":3772.839,"body":"looking for painting, they're"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3772.839,"endTime":3775.539,"body":"just not going to say, Oh, I'm"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3772.839,"endTime":3775.539,"body":"going to I'm going to put"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3775.539,"endTime":3780.099,"body":"watercolor in there. So all they"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3775.539,"endTime":3780.099,"body":"need to know is my name. So it's"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3780.099,"endTime":3780.879,"body":"chriscorpinski.com"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3782.8,"endTime":3784.62,"body":"So and then,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3782.8,"endTime":3784.62,"body":"of course, I'll include your"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3784.62,"endTime":3789.48,"body":"links in the show notes as well,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3784.62,"endTime":3789.48,"body":"along with your social media and"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3789.54,"endTime":3791.52,"body":"yeah. Well, thank you so much,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3789.54,"endTime":3791.52,"body":"Chris."},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3792.0,"endTime":3795.12,"body":"Anybody can"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3792.0,"endTime":3795.12,"body":"sign up for my email newsletter."},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3795.12,"endTime":3800.42,"body":"Please just go to my website and"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3795.12,"endTime":3800.42,"body":"sign up. And my email, although"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3800.42,"endTime":3804.68,"body":"I don't teach, I find it's"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3800.42,"endTime":3804.68,"body":"important in my email"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3804.68,"endTime":3809.78,"body":"newsletters, I explain a lot"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3804.68,"endTime":3809.78,"body":"about how I approach my"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3809.78,"endTime":3814.64,"body":"painting, why I choose the"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3809.78,"endTime":3814.64,"body":"colors I do, why I've just made"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3814.64,"endTime":3818.24,"body":"the decisions that I do. Because"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3814.64,"endTime":3818.24,"body":"I think it's important to"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3818.24,"endTime":3824.32,"body":"understand how an artist thinks,"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3818.24,"endTime":3824.32,"body":"not just to see their work and"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3824.32,"endTime":3828.16,"body":"for them to tell you, this has"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3824.32,"endTime":3828.16,"body":"won an award, or this does this."},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3828.22,"endTime":3831.04,"body":"I like to talk about why I've"},{"speaker":"Chris Krupinski","startTime":3828.22,"endTime":3831.04,"body":"done what I've done."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3831.94,"endTime":3835.36,"body":"Yes,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3831.94,"endTime":3835.36,"body":"absolutely. And that's one of"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3835.36,"endTime":3838.18,"body":"the in my opinions, that's one"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3835.36,"endTime":3838.18,"body":"of the biggest keys to learning"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3838.18,"endTime":3841.68,"body":"from someone is understanding"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3838.18,"endTime":3841.68,"body":"where they're coming from, and"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3841.68,"endTime":3844.14,"body":"why they're approaching"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3841.68,"endTime":3844.14,"body":"something in a certain way. So"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3844.38,"endTime":3849.66,"body":"that sounds really awesome."},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3844.38,"endTime":3849.66,"body":"Well, thank you so much, Chris"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3849.66,"endTime":3854.82,"body":"for the wonderful advice and for"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3849.66,"endTime":3854.82,"body":"being a guest on the show. Well,"},{"speaker":"Laura Arango Baier","startTime":3854.82,"endTime":3857.04,"body":"thank you. Yeah, of course you."}]}