The Chasing Daylight Podcast
Four amateur golfers in Las Vegas talk weekly about the game. This show is for the obsessed golf fan who likes to nerd out on the game's different topics. Look for interviews from insiders within the industry and banter from their opinions on golf's current state. And discussions about headline topics like the Major tournaments and the hot new clubs hitting the shelves. Real talk from real people who play the game.
The Chasing Daylight Podcast
304: Golfing with AI and the Future of the Fairway
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Recovering from an injury isn't just about physical therapy—it's an adventure all its own! This episode offers candid reflections on the confusion that comes with pain meds and the amusing mix-up of a '68' that's more TV guide than golf scorecard. Our journey in golf content continues with exciting updates on our YouTube channel and an honest review of the LAB golf putter on the horizon. Whether you're here for the laughs or the latest gear, there's something for every golf enthusiast.
As the landscape of professional golf shifts, we're here to explore what the future holds. Picture a TGL arena with AI-designed courses and ESPN broadcasts, all promising a fresh take on the sport. The possibility of a PGA Tour vs. LIV Golf event sparks debates on its potential to rejuvenate fan interest amidst the tour split. We weigh in on the sustainability of second-tier leagues and the allure of team-based formats, while also considering how golf's rich history can coexist with innovation. Join us for a conversation that spans from VR golf experiences to the intriguing prospect of a revamped PGA Tournament in Las Vegas.
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Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. We're rolling in December. There's not a whole lot going on, so this may be kind of a loosey-goosey episode. I'm kind of in a loosey-goosey mental state right now, so I will apologize in advance if my ramblings tend to drift off to sound like Joe.
Speaker 3:I'm always loosey-goosey man, always loosey-goosey Tuesdays are loosey-goosey nights, man.
Speaker 1:Tuesdays are loosey-goosey nights. Yeah, so we had the hero take place. I don't know if you guys watched any of that. It has not been a good week for Vegas sports. I shared that on my IG stories yesterday. Rebel football team loses to Boise in the Mountain West final Basketball team loses, the women's basketball team loses. Kate Martin got plugged from the team and then the coach leaves. So kind of a depressing state in vegas sports. But the knights the knights are doing well, so that they are the knights are doing well so but uh, hey, you know as much as I would have loved barry oden to stick around and dan and I have been having conversations about this for a while. Uh, dude got a four-time salary bump. He's he's making six and a half million a year can't hate on that.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no go, go get your money. I mean that's, that's generational. You know that's a lot of money, you know.
Speaker 4:So yeah uh where did he go again?
Speaker 1:purdue, purdue purdue went to the worst football team in the big 10, went to the chicken team be.
Speaker 3:Those are the chicken people, right. They make all the chicken purdue chicken right sure no, that's butterfield turkeys, joe, that's right.
Speaker 1:hey, uh, mr ebalo is on on ig watching. Uh, they got a great promotion going on right now. If you're in the snga, check your emails because, uh, the the match, the cryptocom challenge out at Shadow Creek between Bryce and Brooks, scotty and Rory is next week, next Tuesday, so great deal to get out there and watch that. It's going to be Shadow Creek under the lights 50 bucks is a good deal for that. That's a damn good. Bucks is a good deal for that damn good, damn good deal, because and I did see that.
Speaker 3:I did see that clip of the dude, like he said, like the first three holes might be daylight and then the rest of it's under the lights and they're supposedly playing all 18 yep, wow, so I mean it's uh, you know our schedules aren't gonna allow us to to get out there.
Speaker 1:Uh, it's kind of you know you had to be out there between one and two um, so it would have been a really really long day, and you know we've got shit going on. So, uh, we may have a uh, you know, a watch party at the house to to check it out, because uh definitely want to see shadow under the lights and that's next tuesday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and we'll have something to talk about, yeah, so it'll be you know, probably wrapping up this time next week, so it's uh what are the? What are, like, the licensing fees on that, like, what if we? What if we recorded live and, like, reacted to it live? I mean, that would be a long time, I don't know where.
Speaker 1:We can have it on in the background and talk about what's happening. We just can't show it.
Speaker 4:It's not PGA 4, right.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:No, it's not.
Speaker 1:I'm sure there's some infringements on us doing that, oh yeah, for sure. But we can react. We can do that, and you know what that place is spectacular. I can't wait to see it under the lights, to see the shadows that the ground creates Totally totally. It's going to be cold.
Speaker 3:It's going to be very cold.
Speaker 1:It's going to be cold and out there. I mean, I don't know, we'll see. It's funny. He said if you go dress accordingly because it's going to be cold and they want everybody looking good, that's going to be on TV. Yeah, so we got that coming up next week. Scotty, we talked a little bit. Uh, the hero, uh, if you guys watched any of that or not? Um, that was going on. Um, the f1 race, the, the final of the f1 was fantastic. So there's some good sports going on. The college football playoffs, that that is a whole new buzz. That's, that's great. There's a lot of good things going on in the world of sports. Just not a lot of it is good news on the vegas side, so we'll see what happens. So any any of you guys get out this weekend at all no, I'm bummed.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, jeremy did, but I had a. I had a free tea time yeah, what happened to tpc vegas?
Speaker 3:yeah, sean got to go play. So, uh, the leak in my ceiling in the kitchen right, um, they literally just showed up to patch it saturday morning, they just showed up, oh. So, uh, they must be hurting for work, which I'm glad it's patched. I'm happy it's patched, but, um, you know, my mom had to come get the kids because I couldn't the whole kitchen was closed off and couldn't make them lunch or anything like that. So, and quinn was sick, so but, yeah, that, uh, that kind of sucked, but you know it is what it is, I guess.
Speaker 1:I'm like man Joe's so far down this crypto hole that he's not even talking to us about playing golf.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was bummed man I you know it was a free round to a TPC Las Vegas. I haven't been there in so long either. I really wanted to go, but uh, uh, I'm not just gonna leave uh the door open to some construction workers at that crib.
Speaker 1:So you know oh yeah, no, that's, you don't do that you know?
Speaker 3:so, uh, yeah, unfortunately that did not happen. It did not happen, but it is what it is so, jeremy, you, I just wish they, I just wish they told me they just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Why would they do that? It's like I mean it needed to be done.
Speaker 3:I get it, but like you know, what if we were out of town? Or what if you know we weren't home?
Speaker 1:the ac company was coming to do a checkup on our stuff and she's like, yeah, you know, we can be there between eight and eight yeah, yeah, that whole fucking thing, man, that whole thing that's ridiculous. Eight and eight, we have lives. Good Lord.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a 12-hour window. Yeah, so I stay home all fucking day, yeah no, and then you show up at 7.30.
Speaker 1:Jeremy, you got some golf out at Angel Park.
Speaker 4:Yeah, how was that? Steven and Trey and Peeler and I went, went out and it was a great day but it was packed. Man, it was. Our tea time was like 10 so it was a little bit later than normal, but that place was packed it. I think it took five hours at least but, greens were faster than when we played which is hard to imagine.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 4:The course is still amazing. It was a good day, perfect weather.
Speaker 1:I asked Steven how it was going and he's like there's three groups on every hole.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh shit, that's rough, yeah he showed up.
Speaker 4:He showed up zero warm-up, didn't roll any putts, and shot even or something. He played really well. So he may just do that from now on what was it the new putter?
Speaker 1:because he got the new.
Speaker 4:He got the new labs I mean he, he, he's a sneaky good putter with his other one, but this new one, he was just draining everything and it looks really good. I will say yeah, I don't know if I would pay 1700, but I actually I know I wouldn't pay 1700 bucks, but it felt pretty nice. It felt different than the. The other one he has feels a little bit more closer to a milled style putter, but did you roll it?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely easier to look at it's way smaller, good shape to it. It looks like a normal mallet, to be honest, other than the shaft being offset, but yeah, yeah, I don't know, like even the normal putter he's. He bought another one, I think, with a counterbalance, and it's still 1100 bucks, so I don't think I'll be spending that on the lab. I think I'd buy a used lab, but don't, I have no plans of getting one.
Speaker 3:So so you? You said it looks like a normal mallet putter yeah so looking down.
Speaker 4:It doesn't look crazy, it doesn't look like abstract artwork, looking piece of metal it's. It's actually really good to look at. I mean, other than the shaft that's what I'm.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm going on it. Our mallet putter is starting to look normal to you I mean, it looks like a normal mallet doesn't look normal.
Speaker 1:Doesn't look normal but it looks like a normal mallet.
Speaker 3:Uh, that's funny it doesn't look as crazy. I think jeremy might be. I'm kind of worried about you.
Speaker 4:No, I'm a little worried, I'm not getting one, I'm not getting he's he's inching that way, he's teetering man, he is teetering hard yeah, I'm teetering a little bit, but I don't think I would get a lab I think you'd have a scotty mallet before you got a lab next thing you know,
Speaker 5:you added, you said fucking golf bag.
Speaker 3:It looks it's gonna be hanging over that's the thing I'd have to like.
Speaker 4:I'll have to get one of those bags that has its own putter slot on the outside of it.
Speaker 3:You gotta buy a staff bag with 14 slots.
Speaker 1:Yes, you don't need to cover you can. It holds your.
Speaker 4:It holds your mango cart for you while you're putting true, I do need a mango cart holder, but no one has it anymore, so really no need for that, that's true uh, did the long neck stay out again?
Speaker 1:long neck still in the bag oh, that's three rounds in a row now it's.
Speaker 4:It's fine. It feels like I'm using a new version of my old butter.
Speaker 3:It's fine, okay it's fine it's normal everything, everything's okay, everything's good, I'm not teetering on getting a mallet.
Speaker 1:I'm not buying a mallet, but if I was it wouldn't be allowed. Bgc says all that crypto coin. Joe doesn't need free golf, he's about to buy Shadow Creek.
Speaker 3:Soon? Hopefully. No. I'll buy that one up in Oregon, Then we can just go live in oregon yeah, I think it's sick, looks really nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. So, um, give everybody a little post-surgery update. Uh, surgery went well. Uh, that was in there friday morning. Uh Was home on the couch by 2 o'clock and did absolutely nothing for two days, just sat on the couch and it was wild that I could walk, considering what they did, you know, being all up in your knees and shit. But really that Durango I want to give much credit to that Durango surgical center. Uh, they, great operation. They're super friendly staff, really easy to get in and out of. Uh, they, they were really super friendly and and uh made you feel, you know, like they were there wanting to help you. Uh, get through everything. So that was good.
Speaker 1:Um, I, I have been able to walk. It's just been I'm very slow. I was very slow today, very slow yesterday, and then I had a setback last night bad interaction with my pain meds and my daily meds. So, uh, it was a little bit out of it today, but uh, a little bit back to normal now. This morning is a blur.
Speaker 1:Don't really know what went on this morning at the house. It was a little little strange. Uh went to go make sure my daughter's up to go to school and everybody's gone Like, okay, um, so yeah, that that was. That was wild. Pay attention to the drugs you take, please. That's kind of important. And I have physical therapy that starts Thursday and then after that I'm going to start some sessions with Dr Dummler and yeah, I shot 68 this morning. My mind was somewhere. It wasn't in my head, but uh, and hopefully, you know, be back, uh, beginning of the year, strong, um, hopefully be able to get out on the course before the year ends, um, to see how everything's going. But it was a very interesting conversation I had with my orthopedic yesterday when I went in to get the bandages taken off. She told me that my, my hips are just incredibly tight, and she said that even when I was under um it's pretty funny.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think you should clip that. She said that my hips are very tight tight, very tight. Like my hips girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she said, you know, even under anesthesia I was fighting her, moving me around, which is like very unusual. And so she firmly believes that, because of how little mobility I have in my hips and how tight my hip flexors are, is what led to those tears. So, uh, gave that information to Brad Thompson because he, you know, helped me with my flexibility and uh he, was, uh he's like okay, you know. So now we know what we got to do.
Speaker 3:So hips don't lie, bro, hips don't lie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, um, what'd you say, dad, you're on mute said, the rock is in the building and I said you got to do that.
Speaker 5:Diamond dallas page yoga, ddp yoga oh yeah, so uh that thursday I got my first pt, so that'll be.
Speaker 1:That'll be interesting to see how that goes. Um and uh. At least I'll have a good idea of how long this is going to take before I'm back to back to normal. I mean, I thought we is going to take before I'm back to normal.
Speaker 3:I mean, I thought we were going to see you fucking podcasting from the couch this evening. So like I think you're doing very well, I mean for somebody to go invade into both of your knees, I think you're doing very well. So I'm happy to hear that you made it out to the casita, so you're in good shape, I think that you made it out to the casita.
Speaker 1:So you're, you're, you're in good shape, I think. Well, I, I went out and rolled some putts the other day, just to, you know, just to, because I was like so, just, I have to do something. I have to do something. You know, julian came by today to pick up all the the calloway gear because they're doing some fitting to dragon ridge, and, uh, I was standing out there and I'm like god, I want to do stuff, I want to work on clubs, I want to do something.
Speaker 3:But it's like just nope, just just gonna chill so, uh, mike said you shot 68 this morning, matt. No, he, matt, did not shoot 68 this morning. Let's just clear that it. Let's clear that up right now he was, he was couch ridden. That did not happen. I don't know I it sounded like that to me. I wasn't listening very well, but yes, it did kind of sound like that.
Speaker 3:I could see where you're coming from, like uh, but no, matt, matt shot uh 68 did a different channel surfing sessions on his couch today, that's as far as he got.
Speaker 1:I hit up 68 different channels. Yeah, 68 different YouTube videos. No, no, no, my mind was so gone I could have shot 68 and would not have remembered. Yeah, total haze this morning. So, the lab putter, I did talk with Steven and Thursday I think we're going to meet up and we're going to record some video and then I will write the post for the brutally honest golf review of the lab OZ, is it?
Speaker 2:OZI or.
Speaker 1:OZ1? You know.
Speaker 3:So it's oxygen. It's oxygen fused. That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 1:It sounds like there's OZ for all because it's it's the Adam Scott Ozzy. That's what it sounds like. It sounds like there's oz for all because it's it's the adam scott ozzy. So ozzy, ozzy, it's kind of the play on it. Uh, oi, oi, oi, ozzy, ozzy, ozzy, um, so that'll be coming out, hopefully next week sometime.
Speaker 1:I've done. I've done some upgrades to the YouTube channel. Now, all the podcast episodes we've ever recorded, the audio tracks are now on a playlist. So if you are someone who uses YouTube exclusively for your content, all the podcast episodes are there. All the live videos are there. There's some that are doubled up, that are the podcast and alive. So there are some that weren't in the live category because they were edited. That I I spent some time doing some nice production work that I realized was an utter waste of time and stopped doing um and just sent these lies right to it. So, uh, all that is on there now. So, uh, youtube channel is good.
Speaker 1:I've also started posting um, uh, creating a blog post on the breakfast ball that has the audio player for the episode. So if you're on the breakfast ball, you can go into the podcast link and see that um, mr flote is still writing articles for that. Uh, his one this week was about choosing the right putter, so go check that out. And we got some more stuff coming. Look at Boyd. Boyd is all up on his lab. He is.
Speaker 2:How's his new lab doing?
Speaker 1:Jeremy is making the turn. It's the OZI. Look at him, he knows everything. You ordered one, didn't you Matt?
Speaker 5:He's got one for sure. You ordered one, didn't you, Matt? He's got one for sure, he's got one.
Speaker 1:You ordered one. I know you did, I'll tell you what?
Speaker 3:Boyd is one of the most curious fucking beings that I know. He wants to know everything. He is so curious. What people are playing, what they shot, how they played. What course did they play today? How did you feel? What did you eat, boyd? You are you are serious, you are curious man, and there's nothing wrong with that, it's just, it's just funny you're gonna have to change your picture there on on youtube to you holding the lab butter you should just put a question mark because you're so curious about everything oh, so what do?
Speaker 1:you, you guys got anything that you want to talk about.
Speaker 5:I, I, I feel like I'm letting you down because, uh, I, just just not prepared this week have you guys seen um some of these clips that are going off with the tgl contestants and they're getting their first oh yes new, new arena and stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm curious how you guys feel now, because I've been super hyped on this Right and I said it's going to be good, like, how do you guys feel now, because it's starting to come out like what it's going to look like?
Speaker 5:So yeah, I'm definitely surprised as hell, because I was thinking it was going to be more of like, you know, like a simulator style, like golf style.
Speaker 2:Five iron yeah.
Speaker 5:We're just going to have the two pros sitting by the chair. I did not expect a freaking huge warehouse and hitting into a 60 by 100 foot screen or whatever the hell the things are.
Speaker 1:The screen is intense.
Speaker 5:Yeah. So I know you've been hyping it up a lot. I know you've been hyping it up a lot, joe, and I I know you've been hyping a lot, joe, and back in my mind I was thinking, man, I don't know what to expect.
Speaker 3:But I'm thinking you're right, I'm thinking it's going to be pretty damn big and it's going to be from what I saw, I think it's like January 7th or 8th or 9th, something like that, and it's going to be like primetime ESPN Monday nights at like 8 pm, 9 pm, whatever know they're. They're probably going to clip it. It's not going to be live. I don't think they'll probably clip it, so it's quicker maybe an hour two hours so I I think it's I you know I've I've stood by this.
Speaker 3:You know I I have said that I'm very excited for I think it's going to do really good. I'm really excited about tgl.
Speaker 1:I think it's going to I'm, I think it's going to kill like I really do I'm curious to see the production value on how they do it, because now you're confined to one space. You don't have to have crews running all over the golf course following 144 golfers trying to catch shots. You can focus on these guys right there.
Speaker 3:So I'm curious to see what kind of tech they bring to the production to enhance this a little bit the production could make or break it, but you guys do. You guys understand how the green works oh, yeah, yeah, yeah so it rotates right like.
Speaker 3:So they have different shots, like it does rotate. So it's a. It's like a template green with bunkers. There's like two bunkers on one side, one bunker on the other side, and they brought in um, what's his fucking name? Jose? He's like a. He's like a mexican golf architect jose pisa, pisa golf, pisa golf. That's him, pisa golf. Don't fucking laugh at me. I know I pulled it out.
Speaker 1:It's there, pisa golf you were, you were, you were flirting with the mexican jose yeah, jose pisa, I think his name is, but anyway.
Speaker 3:So everybody got the green right, everybody had the shape of the green and the bunkers on the green, so that's, that's the green in the arena. So they were. They had to design the golf holes around that green because the green will move into the shape of where their balls land and I, I mean it kind of sucks that the green's going to be a little bit different, like, well, it's just, it's the same green right but the same bunkering, just turned a different direction and I I'm sure they have like different oscillators in there where, yeah, they?
Speaker 3:can move the undulation, but that's the one downside that I don't like personally. But you can't. You can't add bunkers to an arena. You know quickly, so I get that. But every hole that was designed for the simulator is based on that green and how they're going to attack those holes. So the hole was based on the green because it's. It is what it is.
Speaker 5:But so all these courses, all like fresh designs, like ai designs, like they're not playing actual yep, yeah, of course. Yep, I think so.
Speaker 3:Yeah so they're? They're simulator golf holes? Yeah, they're not. They're not paying playing beth page, beth page I played there, I didn't know, I I wouldn't or, or band in or wherever it is. They're not playing any places like that.
Speaker 1:I think they're playing and I'm sure it's probably full swing right, the, the I would assume so, with tiger being with tiger. Yeah so you know, I mean, it's a brilliant marketing if they go. Hey, uh, you know, this week the new york golf club beat the la golf club and they played this course for 29.99. You can download it and play it for 24 hours and see how well you do, you know.
Speaker 3:So yeah, no, it's, it's like it. I've seen the. If you follow pisa golf on uh instagram, he he's posted like we designed this for the pros and it's like I mean, they're a little more dramatic than typical holes and they're like they can take it on here, they can go here and they're you know P Pisa is. He is. He's not very well known, like I don't even think he has any courses in the United States, but he is a. He's an outside-of-the-box thinker. He's designed like part three courses that like wrap around in like a pretzel that you can play over and over. So, yeah, I'm excited. And there's others too that have designed courses for the TGL. I just can't remember any of their names right now.
Speaker 1:Jeremy, what do you?
Speaker 4:think those videos yeah, that was.
Speaker 4:My big question was how they're gonna. How, like I didn't, I couldn't picture how. What if they're gonna play like real courses on the screen, or so it's cool that because I'm looking at these pictures of the holes and the green obviously looks the same in all the pictures. It's just turned slightly or whatever. So I think that's. I mean, some of these holes are like it's like fantasy golf, like tiger woods fantasy courses, that it's gonna be. It's gonna be interesting. I think it's kind of cool. It would be cool if there was real courses, but obviously, with the green being a certain design, it's not really gonna happen. But I think that they've done a good job. I'm excited to see some of these.
Speaker 4:I just wish it was more than one match a week. I mean it's, it's really only, it's only one mat, like two teams play a week, right, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3:I'm not, I'm not fully sure on that, but did I?
Speaker 4:yeah, it's like one match a week, so new york versus bay is the first one, and yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 3:I, I mean, I've stood by it the whole time. I, I think it's gonna kill, I think it's gonna be great. I, I really do. I mean, I've been saying this for, like if, if they had a crypto coin to invest into it, I would I would invest a long time ago, you know, because I think, I think it's gonna do really good. I really do. I really believe in the product that they're putting in.
Speaker 1:Did you buy any of the Hakutua coin, Joe?
Speaker 3:Fuck. No, if you did, you are an idiot yeah.
Speaker 4:Don't do that shit. 15 matches. So it goes from January 7th through March 4th, and then I assume playoffs will be 17th, 18th, 24th and 25th of March.
Speaker 3:I mean just imagine for Augusta, sitting at home, like on a Monday night, you know it's 8 PM. You get to watch like pro golfers that you watch all the time, like play golf, that you've played into a simulator but like on a massive scale and they get to play around in in two hours. You get to like see it happen and they're hitting off real grass and you know they're hitting all their shots here and then they hit into the green and with an arena of people I mean the arena doesn't look like too massive or anything, but I think it's going to be really good. Like I know I've I know I've hyped it up a lot. I'm excited for it.
Speaker 1:I really am I just I I hope they can like dive in to uh, because they're getting better at doing this with ball speeds and and you know yardages and the shot tracers, but I'd really like to see them get into some you know, high speed, face angles at impact so you can actually see what's going on, I'm sure.
Speaker 3:Well, I think that's what they're going to be able to do. They're going to be able to do that with this.
Speaker 1:Well, I know the full swing software allows that, so but being in that big arena, I don't know how well they'll be able to do it, but I would love to see that, like they're probably going to.
Speaker 3:They're probably the. The full swing software is probably more updated now for the against the consumer, just like we, just like we play old golf balls, old pro V's that the pros had two years ago. You know, I think they're going to be able to dive so much further into the analytics of everything and I mean I to dive so much further into the analytics of everything and, uh, I mean I would assume the software is there, like I don't think they would do that, do this, unless they had it. And I think everybody's seeing how big the fucking screen is to somebody. Now people are like, oh shit, like this is fucking real what did you guys think about scotty's claw grip?
Speaker 1:did he switch to a claw grip?
Speaker 4:it was interesting that he was switching based on the putt. He was using a different grip, so that was.
Speaker 1:That was a new one yeah, but then he like was for like the, pretty much the whole weekend he was putting exclusively with it and, yeah, he didn't miss inside of 10 feet, just was draining everything, which I mean, good heavens. Could you imagine him being a better putter? Oh, look out, look out yep well, you know whatever works he's gonna get on those shadow greens at night and he's gonna go to a broomstick yeah, grab a lab yeah, uh, speaking of go for it, go ahead go ahead.
Speaker 5:No you go, no you go. I was gonna say I also saw that there's um I think it was brooks came out today and said that there's a good possibility of next year being a PGA Tour versus Live Golf, ryder Cup type style match. Did you guys see that at all?
Speaker 2:No, but I believe it.
Speaker 5:A couple of IG pages I follow had said that he said that on somebody's podcast Like an unofficial, not associated with PGA Tour thing. I didn't really get into the details like that, but it just said you know this. Just in Berks Kepka says you know yada yada about that.
Speaker 3:I 100% believe that because that's happening next week in Las Vegas, I mean that is happening. It's not pga well, yeah, but yeah, yeah, you know, like across the thing.
Speaker 5:But yeah, yeah it's happened. To get, I mean, get like all the top live stars and like all the top pga stars, that'd be dope, that would be awesome yeah that was called the pga tour, uh, a couple years ago, yeah I think.
Speaker 1:I think pga tour is struggling 100 like and monaghan's, not just how much money he made this last year well, he's not struggling, but like the, the product is and they, they have to do something like that.
Speaker 1:So I don't think the product was struggling I think no, no, the star power, Not the product, but the star power, Like I mean you know Well, I mean you go from one of the greatest eras in the history of the game, you know, with Tiger Woods being at the top of the game and just driving golf for a couple decades to there's not another Tiger and you know we'll probably never see another tiger well that's so that's.
Speaker 3:That's the thing currently right. So a couple years ago, like I mean a year two years ago, scheffler was I mean. Well, we had kalamorkawa, who people thought could be the next tiger obviously he's not. Then it's scotawa, who people thought could be the next Tiger Obviously he's not. Then it's Scotty Scheffler who could be the next Tiger Obviously he's not. But then the players fade away into a different league. So it's like split. It's like okay, well, Scotty Scheffler won all this shit, but he's not playing against these guys. That's the thing.
Speaker 3:It's split, so it's like nobody can be the tiger now because people are split. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying live players are potentially tiger woods, but they're not playing against the best players in the world players aren't playing the best players right now, and that's that's exactly that's the problem. That is the problem.
Speaker 1:But that wasn't the problem for live.
Speaker 3:You know that there's no problem for live.
Speaker 1:There's no, I'm saying that there wasn't. We didn't have that problem when before live started, because all the top players were playing the top players and it was then this live. Shit happens and they split and now there's just this big like loss of connection with the fan base.
Speaker 3:I believe it's just so. What I'm saying is is there's nothing, there's not the full star power of the pga currently. Bryson is probably one of the biggest golf superstars in the world right now because of his YouTube, because of his social media thing. Right, he's not on PGA Tour. Scotty scheffler is not a big superstar for us golfers. Yes, he's. He's a fucking mastermind on the golf course yeah, but he's a very boring person exactly, and he's not.
Speaker 3:You know, he's not moving the needle. I love scotty scheffler. I. I called him to win a bunch of shit a bunch of times before he even won so, and so did jeremy. But um, that's the thing, man, we're, we're. We're coming into a generation where it's filled like star power, youtube, and that's the problem. Like how does it transition from that or what it was, to the new world? And we need a. I don't have the answers, but I'm just saying it's a problem because the attention grabbing shit is not happening on PGA Tour. I love PGA Tour, you know I'd rather watch PGA Tour than live all day. But Bryson's grabbing eyes, he's grabbing ears, he's grabbing people's views and they PGA Tour, needs him. They really do like to survive, I think in the long run. Not right now, but I just think, uh, the best players in the world are not playing the best players in the world like, like pga was, and that is the problem I would say live also needs pga tour.
Speaker 4:I think I live. Yeah, they they're playing for all the money and all that, but I feel like they're both tours right now are missing a huge chunk of the competition and they both need it. So really they need to either have that's an interesting point you made about the YouTube era and there's all these YouTube golfers and Phil's now doing their series with Horvat and Bryson's got his channel and all that it's like. Will it even make sense to just go back to the PGA tour and try to do what they did before? It can't work that way. It's gotta be like some open, like organization where people can play whenever they want. There's multiple tournaments going on at the same time. Make more majors, I don't know it's. It just feels like the tiger era, can't? We can't go back to that at this point okay, but that's what makes tiger so fucking incredible.
Speaker 3:Right, that's one of those things, because of what actually Tiger did during that era, because all the best players were playing in the same spot and that's why fucking Tiger was Tiger and that's why people loved it. But now it's split and they got to figure out a way to come together or else shit's fucked. I mean, you know, they got to find a way for the best players to play against the best best players, and that's what tiger did. They had it.
Speaker 3:I mean, I get it well they had it during during the tiger era 100, and that's why tiger is.
Speaker 1:They had it three years ago tiger.
Speaker 3:Yeah, do you think do you think that.
Speaker 4:So let's, let's just say they merge back together and now it's all PGA Tour again and all the players are together. I think we're still going to I don't know. I feel like if they want to make it interesting and engaging for people that want to see the top players play, they're going to have to really create tournaments that only those guys are playing in.
Speaker 3:I think it's going to be a hybrid situation, right like I think tgl will go and then tgl will form into live versus pga players kind of situation, because and that's the direction everything is going, everything's going digital, everything's going into that market. Because it's quick hype, dopamine hits right. I think tgl is gonna.
Speaker 1:They can film it all in one day and spread it out over six weeks exactly, it's american gladiators for golf.
Speaker 3:Yeah, tell me I'm wrong. American gladiators for golf.
Speaker 3:I just came up with that right now you've got some kudos but yeah, that's the thing, man, like you know, people, people are so want to be so quick to just ingest things. But it's like great to take time just to like chill out. You know we're living at hyper speed, like just chill. But it the the severed ties between PGA and and live just it sucked. I mean, it wasn't good for golf, I mean, and we're here now but, um, I think we need to bring it back to where the best players are playing the best players. I mean that that's the only thing like that, and that's what we want to see is golf fans is who's the best? Fans is who's the best? Okay. Is he playing against the best? Okay then. Is he playing against someone? That's the best? Okay. That's all we want to see. We want to see the best competition.
Speaker 1:It's fucking gladiator I could see in like five years from now. There is the, the elite pga, which is the top 50 players in the world. They play, you know, two tournaments a month. They're in the majors and that is the super high dollar big money. And you have to qualify, you have to be in the top 50 in the official world rankings to participate in elite PGA and then the PGA will be what the Corn fairy is now kind of like, a you know a second tier where they play every week and play all year long. And you have that because that's what it seems like, that's what they're trying to do now with the elevated events and these high dollar purses and only smaller fields. It's just's just. Instead of last year going, hey, we're starting PGA Elite and there's only the top 50 you're going to play, they're doing it over a five-year period to wean us into it, to make it more acceptable.
Speaker 3:Also PGA cut cards, pga cut cards. How bad does that suck for the people that have been grinding for years to play on pga tour. Cuz cousin clubs just said like live is isn't palatable to watch and I 100 agree oh, it's horrible live is absolutely terrible to watch. I like I'll throw it on the tv and I'm like why am I watching this?
Speaker 1:I'm watching.
Speaker 3:It made a retarded love child I'm watching it to see brooks play, bryson play, rom play, but I hate listening to it.
Speaker 1:I'd rather listen to uh the deep dp world tour, like those announcers over world tour like those announcers over live golf announcers, and I hate the world tour. Mark's got a nice point that the those wgc events were were like that, but there was only so many of them. I'm talking like let's have a 20 week season of just a top 50 in the world going at it at this, just the best of the best playing the best at the best courses you know, and then the second tier, pga, can go play, you know, wherever the hell they want and have, get whatever sponsors they can get and and pay what they can pay and uh, I I think that's what they're trying to get to I think that's the only thing that makes sense and that that's what my prediction as well.
Speaker 4:Um, the thing is like the corn fairy right now, like, unless you're an absolute diehard, you don't care at all about the corn fairy.
Speaker 2:It's just like baseball.
Speaker 4:What do you who watches minor league baseball, or you know?
Speaker 3:nobody, unless you go to a game. If you go to a game.
Speaker 1:If you go to a game for sure, but like a small town with double a ball. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, casual golf fan does not care, they just want to see Bryson, they want to see the top players and I think that's the only way to make this thing engaging again. But it's just going to make the other layers, the layers below that, worse and harder to get into. I mean, the only way a person's going to make it up to the top, I think, is if they're special. Yeah, it's not going to be really good players that get in.
Speaker 1:They have to be special. I I want to see him do the, the relegation, you know, like the the um soccer does over in europe. You know, hey, if you're a bottom tier player, you're going to the pga tour and then we'll promote the top five players from the pga tour to pga elite yeah yeah uh, cousin club says, I know we're golf profession, golf professionals here professionals uh.
Speaker 3:That being said, I haven't watched the current pga uh slash live event in months and I would agree I haven't I've been watched much at all uh, it's hard to watch I have, I have it is. You know, yeah, we're, we're looking, we're looking forward to april. I mean, that's where we're at right now, like you know the australian.
Speaker 1:The australian event was good.
Speaker 3:I like watching hawaii. I enjoy hawaii, I mean, I like kapalua, but I think I just think there's been there's been such a divide and um, I'm not, I'm not a fan of, not a huge fan of like I don't want to say technology, but like the split and where it could, like, I love, I love the idea of tgl, but I hate the idea of what tgl could do to the game yeah you know I think it's going to be great to watch, but I'm terrified.
Speaker 3:I'm terrified of what it could do to golf. You know like I don't want to see people just fucking hitting balls into a screen. You know I enjoy being out there playing golf and enjoying myself with my friends in nature and, you know, having a good time. That's one thing that scares me about tgl is like are people just gonna go fucking grind in simulators all day because they see these guys like making money and they're hitting into screens? You know like I don't want that. I definitely do not want that the golf stop does yeah, I of course golf stop wants it.
Speaker 3:A lot of other places have popped up, but golf stop is the one place you should go hit balls at um. So mark that mark says here.
Speaker 1:Is that second tier sustainable, though, if all the stars have their own league? I don't see people attending or corporate sponsors funding events with a bunch of nobodies. It would be tough, but I think what would help, that is, everybody is going to want to get to that elite level. That is your goal. You know now your goal is to get your tour card on those, those bottom levels. That's not going to be good enough anymore. You know now you. You have to be the best of the best on that second tier to get to the elite level where the the big money is, cause you know you're not going to get that big money out at the bottom. You know. So it may drive more guys you know to to play more events and show up at those events. So I mean the corn fairy tour. Like joe said earlier, it's to the casual golf fan. It's a bunch of nobodies anyways, you know, unless there's some super stud out of college.
Speaker 3:But they get right to the pga now I will say, though it's difficult to follow the corn fairy tour if you pay attention to the corn fairy tour and you get into those like and and you're a gambler and uh, during like the fall season and you know who can play, you can win some money if you bet on them. I've done that many times, but you gotta pay attention. I'll just say I feel like I'm from vegas we're from vegas.
Speaker 4:Yeah, gotta throw that, gotta throw that in, um, I I feel like if it does move to this model I I think that's. I mean, mark, you're exactly right I think it could potentially crush and make those undesirable. I mean, you have like a double, a triple, a major league, it's premier league, it's f1, you have f2, you have f3, all these things, but they're all. Those are all team sort of team. They're built on a team, so that potentially could be a thing where now tgl has teams, live has teams. Could the premier league of golf have teams? Can they have teams in those minor leagues?
Speaker 4:I mean, who knows if we want that, but they kind of it kind of eliminates that way though I think it is, but I think it sort of does that ruin the history of golf, because the the cool thing about the tours now is you have so many people coming from all walks of life, different stories, how they, how they got there, some are young, some are old. That's the cool thing that I enjoy about those you know, following pros can we get a clap sound for jeremy right now?
Speaker 3:load up the clap sound for jeremy. That was a good take.
Speaker 4:Yeah, do you got it?
Speaker 1:let me see I got the way, I think I've met my quota for words for the for the night really good, I'm a pretty good putter.
Speaker 4:I'm a damn good putter. Yeah well, I don't know. I I have mixed feelings about the future because I'm you know I'm a pretty good putter. I'm a damn good putter. Yeah, I don't know. I have mixed feelings about the future because I'm, you know, I'm a. I don't know what how you describe me. I'm more of a. I'm a damn good putter.
Speaker 4:No, I don't know, I'm a traditionalist, but I'm also like sort of getting into the future, like the YouTube stuff. I'm interested in that. So, yeah, live suck. We need. It needs to be, it needs to be merged together. We need to find something better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree all right, we need to switch up some courses we need.
Speaker 4:We need to see some new courses, yes, and and that's and that's.
Speaker 3:Another thing that needs to go away is just the idea of par or how long it is. Like who gives a fuck? Like, at the end of the day, who really cares? Like if you can go play the course and you score worse than them, like you can still compare yourself to them. Like I would love to see them go play fucking Las Vegas National today. I mean they'll eat the shit up or whatever. I mean they need to get the greens better.
Speaker 3:But, um, you know, like I'm I'm tired of you know, except except for the historical courses, right, like there's a lot of history on pga tour, which I'm totally down with. Like I love the history of the game, but like they just need to switch it up and we've talked about this before like I would just, I would love to see fucking pga tour abandoned, or pga tour at chambers bay, even though fucking, uh, gary, fucking shit on that place with the broccoli greens and everything. But I just, I just want to see some change up. Like, yeah, I, I think it's, I, I think we really need to change it up a bit or they do.
Speaker 4:Sorry I think they could. I mean it. I think we're going to see limited tournaments in the future. I don't think we're going to see as many on, especially if it's that premier style league and maybe some freedom with courses. Maybe courses will be more interested in having a tour event there.
Speaker 3:Why can't they go to StreamSong? I don't care what the par is.
Speaker 4:It doesn't matter what they shoot. At the end of the day, it's irrelevant.
Speaker 3:It really is. It could be a par 60 for PGA Tour. Let's see some interesting shit.
Speaker 1:Let's have them go play Desert Willow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, those greens are fucking pretty tough.
Speaker 1:All right, let's take our break and then we come back. We're going to have a new segment that I'm going to start tonight, so don't go away, we'll be right back.
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Speaker 1:Get there, christmas time. It's Christmas time, all right. So, as you guys all are aware if you've been following us for any time in the past few months our friend Hesherhack is out there going out every single day trying to make a hole-in-one. I thought it might be fun if we were to bring up his feed and show his attempts.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's in the chat right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, show his attempts. I don't think there's any audio on these, but uh, uh, we'll go back to day 100. So he had, he had to do this guy's still grinding in vr man, yeah, had to do some vr because, uh, because of the weather.
Speaker 5:Then he played uh the 17 to st andrews the road hole that was a good shot.
Speaker 3:That was a good shot, I. I really like how his swing actually looks, like his swing in vr let's be here I know, but like in his videos it the the club actually moves. The way it moves when he dude he's a damn good putter, damn good putter, vr.
Speaker 1:Then he got back out on the course, which a the the greens look pretty good for being under snow the other day yeah, it was.
Speaker 3:It was blowing man.
Speaker 4:You know, what's impressive about him is he's not sitting there shooting the same distance every single shot or every day. He's like it's a totally different thing every day, which makes it even way harder.
Speaker 3:Yeah, shout out to you, Escher, you're not playing 100 yards every day, so that's good, great ship. Shout out to you, hesher, like you're not playing 100 yards every day, so that's good, great ship. Shout out to you what's the prediction? Oh wait oh, that's I mean we've called it before, but oh, so let's see, uh.
Speaker 1:And then here, here's the day 104, 104. That may be your worst shot you had in a while, bro. Yeah, yeah, oh, he's a little rusty because he can't get out as much, you know. Yeah, 104. 104. That may be your worst shot you've had in a while, bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's a little rusty because he can't get out as much. Yeah, you know, I feel it.
Speaker 1:So we'll keep doing this each week until he makes it and can come on and talk about it.
Speaker 3:It's going to happen. I can't wait for it to happen.
Speaker 1:Yes, I really can't no problem, appreciate you doing that because it's good. It's good content. I'm enjoying it. I wish we had the. I wish the audio would play, but maybe I'll figure out that yeah hey, we appreciate you bro he said appreciate you guys. Yeah, um, so that's, that's the new segments, um, and then I, I don't got anything else. I, I don't because I can't play golf. Ah, I can't play golf.
Speaker 4:It's sad maybe in two weeks, though right I'm hoping, I'm hoping.
Speaker 3:Uh, I think you gotta use that foursome before end of the year. So yes, I know.
Speaker 1:Well, worst case, we all go and I just ride along with you guys.
Speaker 4:You know, I bring a blanket.
Speaker 3:I have to be there, yeah, almost, and be like, yeah, record the movie you know make you a YouTube stars.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, we got, I got that foursome we got to use at National. And then, Dan, you're taking the last week of the year off.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I have some personal time off that it's like, you know, use it, you lose it, type of thing. So I was like, well, fuck it, I'll take those four days off at the end of the year.
Speaker 3:I have put in the last two weeks of BTO and for the year. But uh, a school for the kids is closed the last week of the year, so but also everybody else in my team took the last two weeks of the year, so like I get the calls, you know, if something happens I go, you know.
Speaker 1:New Year's Eve party. Joe, where are?
Speaker 3:you at. I don't know. As of now we're not doing anything at work, so I'm hands-free For the first time in five, six years. I do have it kind of free. I don't know, We'll see.
Speaker 1:Well, we may have to mix up the nights we do the podcast because, you know, next week we were maybe going to go to Shadow Creek, but it doesn't look like we're going to, so but then after that it's Christmas Eve and that's the big family night for us, and then the following week is New Year's Eve, so nobody's really going to be hanging out waiting for our show. So nobody's really going to be hanging out waiting for our show. So we'll either mix it up or we'll take an extended holiday leave and come back for 2025. Seeing next week will probably be an equally slow golfing week. I propose it's time to campaign MGM wins, circus Sports or someone to step up and save the Las Vegas PGA Tournament. Yes, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4:It'll happen.
Speaker 3:I do believe it'll happen. Cryptocom is going to come in.
Speaker 1:I can see MGM doing something. They represent a lot of the players here in town. They're pretty big in the marketing and sponsoring so it's a drop in the bucket to them.
Speaker 4:TBC is owned by the Pj tour, right, yes, so do you think it would always stay there, or do you think there's a chance it could?
Speaker 1:yeah, the people that I have talked to, it's it's much easier for them to have an event there than have it somewhere else. You know, because then you're going into contracts and you're going into, you know, prepping doing, I mean, and TBC has done. Tbc Summerland has done a lot of enhancements to make that a better venue for the golf, but they're making changes every year to try and make it better. They get to use all the Shotlink data to improve the course. It just went under big renovation with new fairways, new greens, new bunkers. The course is going to get better over the next couple years with all that in place. So it's just easier for them to hold it there. It's just is anybody going to come because of the stupid way that the PGA Tour is doing it now to make these fall season events meaningless unless you're trying to get into the 125? It's just there's no desire for the guys, those upper tier players, to come. Have not talked to Patrick.
Speaker 2:Lindsey.
Speaker 1:I kind of didn't want to reach out to him because of what happened. He's a hell of a guy and I consider him a friend, so I didn't want to be the golf reporter calling him up, going hey, you want to get on the show and talk about how you don't have a job anymore? So, um, but I I'll, I'll reach out to him and see if he can give us any insights about what's going on. But the, the Shriners had an office there on site. So I mean they you know the, the two interviews that we did with him he was working 12 months out of the year for that place to put that event on. So imagine the bigger events, what those people go through. It's crazy. But I think we will have an event here.
Speaker 1:I think the PGA Tour wants an event in Vegas. I would love to see you know, I would like to see them go. Okay, fall series you've got seven events to show us what you got. And then, uh, put the regular schedule on notice. Hey, uh, if you, if you guys have a drop in fan base, you have a drop in revenue, uh, you know, you're, you're not getting the numbers. Um, you're gonna lose your event and you're gonna get put in the fall and and rotate it. I mean, I think that is a good way to to make the tournament directors have a desire to do something great, to get into a regular pga season event, you know, or an elevated event, for god's sakes, I mean, I think a big money elevated event in vegas would do fucking fantastic and you know, april may would be incredible west coast swing.
Speaker 5:We need the west coast swing yeah, I think the fall series needs to step up in course selection though. I mean, I know it's the off season and everything like that, but like the course, selections are not the greatest they did add black desert, which was nice yeah, which is nice, but, like you know, the one here in vegas.
Speaker 2:You know tpc, summer is nice.
Speaker 5:But let's be real, like shadow creek should be the, should be the course that's being showcased, um, like when you go up north to the sanderson or the fort net or whatever the heck it is. Like I'm sure that, I'm sure that's a nice course, but like an hour south of there's olympic club, you know, or lake merced you know like so much.
Speaker 5:if they were to, if they could showcase like some nicer courses or pull some better courses at the at the end of the season, it might still draw some of the bigger names. But I don't know, maybe I'm just a little high, who knows?
Speaker 3:No, there, there definitely needs to be a Vegas stop, Like it needs to have, like there's gotta be one, you know, and and if they don't do it, then they're just succumbing to what live is, you know. It needs to. There needs to be a vegas style, like we're a big town, now man we're. We're massive, we're not massive, but we're a big sports town now, like we've shown our worth. You know, don't look over us. We are here, we've grown. I'm born and raised, so is matt, and you know we can fucking send shit and just don't be fucking lax on things you know we got the a's coming that'll be it.
Speaker 3:It's going to be a great 20 ticket just have a good time you know, I mean we don't have to go into the politics of that, but you know people are coming to our city because we are it? So fucking pga. Tour live tgl like we're here, man, we're we send shit, we do it right. We do massive events. It doesn't fail typically like thomas and mac has been there since 1947 and dan's been fucking plugging in cam, plugging in cam cables, sending power to all these fucking events. You know we send shit, we do it right.
Speaker 1:Vegas is where it's at how is the rodeo going dan?
Speaker 5:rodeo's going good. It's been smooth. I'm not going wood right now. Dan's sitting in a chair. Bro, he plugged everything in. He's sitting in a chair. I am Like the three to four days prior to the event I'm busting ass and then now I'm just get to watch it.
Speaker 3:Yep, I'm on standby.
Speaker 5:Check out Hot Country Babes all day check out hot country babes all day.
Speaker 1:Do a TGL event on the simulator wired into the sphere?
Speaker 3:yeah, that would be amazing yeah that would be yeah dude, vegas does it like nobody else. Okay, that's the thing. Vegas doesn't does it like nobody else just wait until the A's are here. It's that's going to be trash.
Speaker 2:But if you have a baseball team.
Speaker 3:you can come see them here. That's the thing. Yeah, you know pretty much like when they play the Yankees like it'll be good, you know, but no, we need, we need. We need major golf here and it sucks. It's gone currently, but no doubt in my mind it's going to come back at some point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it hasn't officially left yet. They just don't have a sponsor.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:But I mean, we'll have to see when they announce Black Desert last year so we know when they'll be announcing the fall this year.
Speaker 3:I mean it'd be sick just to do like a fucking PGA Tour event with like Persimmons and like you gotta play Persimmon Woods at National and call it fucking Shell's Wonderful World of Golf but, how cool would that be.
Speaker 5:It would be cool, but I think national hosting and PG event died when, when?
Speaker 4:was that.
Speaker 5:Matt.
Speaker 3:Freddy.
Speaker 5:Couples.
Speaker 4:Matt Sott, matt Sott.
Speaker 1:I was there, I saw it with my own eyes.
Speaker 4:Didn't you drive Freddy Couples to his car?
Speaker 1:I did, wow, I did.
Speaker 3:Those were the days we just need, like fucking tom doke, to build a new course in the mountain. We do need a new course.
Speaker 1:We there's plenty of land just right out by my house, in the little mountains to the foothills right there. It'd be a beautiful course overlooking the valley be like dove mountain and tucson overlooking the. You know, yeah, it'd be great, yeah, oh wait, yeah, there's no fucking there might be tried. All right, that'll do it for this week. Uh, I want to. I want to thank my co-host for carrying me this week um, a little loopy still. So I appreciate you guys being here you're walking, though, so you're good it's a slow walk.
Speaker 1:You, you wouldn't recognize me right now. It's a slow walk, but uh, you're looking like me, abandoned after 30 years the waddle I'm looking forward to not being in pain, so that's one thing we didn't talk about, but we can do that next week or something.
Speaker 3:The band in lottery.
Speaker 1:Now it's a lottery we talked about that last week you mentioned it last week a little bit. Well, I don't remember what I said yeah, we know once, once we record it, it's gone joe forgets that he hypes up tgl every week. The people tune in, know that he's got stock in it, but he's like. This is the first time I've talked about it. Did you guys know I played uh best page?
Speaker 3:well, it's like it's the first time that was the joke, but it's the first time he has actually seen what it's gonna be, so yeah, yeah, all right, joe, bring us home.
Speaker 1:Let's get out of here. I'm going to bed thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 3:Hopefully you guys don't walk with a wobble this week like matt. Uh, I appreciate you guys listening every single week. This is episode 304, which is pretty crazy. You can go back into the archives, listen to every episode. It's probably like 400 hours now. It's just fire. Until next week and we'll catch you later, later, thank you.
