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313: Golf Parallels with Kendrick Lamar, Waste Management Open Insights, and Gear Anticipation for Upcoming Events
This episode delves into the deep connections between golf and storytelling, particularly through the lens of Kendrick Lamar's rich musical narratives. We explore various themes such as memorable performances, community building in golf, and the emotional landscapes both music and golf create in our lives.
• Highlights from the Waste Management Tournament
• Kendrick Lamar's influence on storytelling in golf
• Exciting moments from Jordan Spieth's performance
• Insights from the recent GWOP meetup in Vegas
• The impact of gear and attire on the golfing experience
• Covers of local courses in St. George and their appeal
• Upcoming events in the Vegas Golf Network
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What is up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. We're all in the tents this evening Gonna be talking some golf. Got a little feeding the ducks action going on in the background. Get the mood right for everybody. Hope you're doing wonderful on this Tuesday evening. As we say each and every week, we love the fact that you take time out of your evening to evening. As we say each and every week, we love the fact that you take time out of your evening to join us to hang out and talk golf what up?
Speaker 1:vix in the chat on instagram. Joe's man in the ig chat. If you want to hop on youtube, uh, if you're on there, we can share your comments, if you have any, with everybody else, so so please feel free to do?
Speaker 2:Put a hefty Devro Golf in the house.
Speaker 1:Let's go. So we got some things we'll be talking about this evening. Waste management took place. The Super Bowl took place. Joe is finally calmed down from the Kendrick Lamar performance. Jeremy is probably calmed down a little bit from Jordan Spieth being in contention. For the first time in forever, there was a GWAP meetup in Vegas. The Genesis is this week spin the record back GWAP. Gwap, gwap. I don't know what it is. Gwap, gwap, gwap, gwap. What is?
Speaker 2:it GWOP. I don't know what it is. It's GWOP. It's the GWOP meat, bro, gwop, gwop meat. Oh, swap meat, gwop meat.
Speaker 1:All right, gwop, there you go. Golf the golf. Swap meat, gwop meat. Yeah, it was. I'm like Joe, are you going to go?
Speaker 2:It's just not my jam you never even RSVP'd.
Speaker 1:I didn't know anybody was going.
Speaker 2:Oh, we don't need that again. Everybody's going.
Speaker 1:It was on loop All right, so the Guap sorry was in Vegas. The Genesis is this week back at Torrey. Again, nothing looking thick. Good. Good and Liv both played under the lights. Uh, we got a vgn coming up event coming up at sienna next week, not this weekend, but next weekend. I got a new driver that gets here tomorrow. Um, and then you know we got another one other, that's a new. One is so good, jeez.
Speaker 2:I need a soundboard over here, just to hit.
Speaker 1:The mayor another one another club, another club, another one, anyways, another one.
Speaker 2:How y'all doing this evening we're good.
Speaker 1:I totally forgot to say thank you to our show sponsors and supporters Roars Golf, of course, down in Florida, the Golf Stop which I was at yesterday and Jeremy was at yesterday Las Vegas Golf Superstore and Unread Law Scott Russo for allowing us to use that intro All right, hey, nice hat, jeremy, I haven't seen you wear that one.
Speaker 3:Thank you, I just got it. I just got my order.
Speaker 1:Oh, did you place an order online?
Speaker 3:yeah, I got a shorty's one yeah all the stuff that I should have bought there. I ordered and they shipped it very quickly.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's the thing when you're, when you're, when you're in those shops, you're just like I need to get something, and then it's overwhelming to just like be very overwhelming, I'll take my time, I'll get home, I'll digest my experience and then I will order, you know so yeah, um, yeah, I, I, I fully respect it. Well done, props to you. I would like to get some.
Speaker 2:I'd like to get some summer attire I always, when I'm there I always grab the winter stuff because it's so damn comfortable well, I mean, you guys know me, I'm straight to the clearance rack. So it's like if, if it's not a clearance rack, clearance racks there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's over in the corner at band and it's never even paid attention, they stick it next to the 400 peter millar jacket. So you go.
Speaker 2:Oh, if not this area walk away yeah, if it's, if it's something I really like and I really connect with it, then I will 100 pay full price.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean yeah yeah, everybody does, because that's pretty much what everybody does. When they go there, they pay full price.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah I mean yeah if you believe yeah all right, I will say though the hoodies there.
Speaker 4:Sorry, but the hoodies there are super cheap for what they are reasonable yeah very reasonable, like you can pay like 90 at any other resort, and the fact that they were like what are they? 55, 60 bucks there. That's pretty good for a hoodie anyway, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2:No, that's the best that, and they're. They're great, they last long, well printed. Um, I forget, I forget what they're printed on. I think they're american needle, or my old ones are american needle and I think the new ones are sports. Yep, then, the new ones are different. But yeah, bandon does it right, you know, just shut up, and we should probably get over this, because we talk about man in all the time. It's been a while, though it's, yeah, an hour, an hour will go by and we won't have talked about anything else.
Speaker 1:Uh, okay, so uh, let's see. Uh, joe, did you? I know, yes, kendrick lamar is is like jam. Do you want to have a moment to get it out, what you're feeling express? I know you were hyped up and I kept, I kept fucking with Joe. I can't fuck it with him because it's just not my thing. I know this kind of brain.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, I get it, I get it, you're older, you're, you're, you're an older, wise man of the of life, and I understand that, um, but you know, it kind of actually brings me to something that I thought about earlier. Um, the thing that I really enjoy about kendrick lamar is he is a fantastic storyteller, right, like able to put things down into a song or a lyric and tell a story to transport you somewhere. And I, I know there's got to be like, you know, like the first time, uh, rolling stones came out with their first single when you were, you know, young and it just.
Speaker 1:Are you talking about me? That's where you went, jesus christ uh, you know louis armstrong.
Speaker 2:The first time louis armstrong ever performed. You were there, lord.
Speaker 1:I mean, I did see elvis in memphis before he was elvis. But come on, not that old jesus christ, no, I know I'm fucking with you, but the thing I appreciate about.
Speaker 2:Kendrick Lamar is his ability to storytell, and I thought about this earlier. Like a great golf round is like a, it's like an album, right, like like the first time you ever played band in trails or you know, or whatever the course is one of your favorite. You're going to try and replicate that same feeling the entire time and it's never gonna come close to the first time you played it because it struck a chord with you in your heart, just like a great album does. And, um, I think that's something kendrick lamar does very well and he can paint the picture and that's that's something that's like synapsis in our brains to where, like, melodies and chords can bring us back to certain points in our life.
Speaker 2:Just like, just like smells like cologne, like lacoste I mean, it's not even called graphite lacoste, graphite cologne, but I call it that and like I can, sometimes I spray it. I have a bottle in in my cabinet and sometimes I'll spray it and I'm like digging for records at hip-hop site or I'm pounding a bud light in a fucking parking lot by del taco in summerland. You know, like it's just, it's just interesting and I think, I think kendrick lamar has that ability and it's it's sound, not smell, but it's, it's experience and just like a great round of golf is like I remember, like us being on sheep, like that video on sheep ranch 16 teeing off from the championship teas, and like I can every time I see that video I can feel it, like I can feel the wind, I can, you know. So think I think there's. There's very few artists, uh, musical artists, that can transport you in time like that, and kendrick can do that and exp, especially after the year he, the last year he had incredible and um, yeah, I think it was great but um, fantastic yeah, his, his jeans were definitely tighter than I expected them to be, and pulled up, but he's not
Speaker 2:that's his that's his style, though, and also another thing the thing I love about Kendrick Lamar is he doesn't talk much and he lets the internet uh digest his thought process and like. I saw a video about like bell-bottom jeans were worn as military, and then it became like a protest against military and like you know, like, and, but he'll never address it. You know, but he'll do things to make people talk and then create like, but he'll never address it. You know. You don't know. There's easter eggs. I love easter eggs. There's easter eggs out there and we'll never know. Just like in golf easter eggs. You know, like there's bourbon in that fucking sprinkler head, but if you didn't know it was there, you, you wouldn't know it was there. So, and then there's like the bench on uh trails 14. If you didn't go right, you wouldn't know it was there, and if you went left, you would have missed a significant part of the story.
Speaker 1:So that's what I like the elusive lower green on pack dunes exactly, yeah, so played it.
Speaker 2:I've played it. We played it last time I still haven't because you, because you were in the hotel, that's right, I was.
Speaker 1:We played the lord green uh, so it's that bums me out but yeah, I, I appreciate storytelling.
Speaker 2:I appreciate, uh stories and history and and easter eggs and um, I love when you can, and Easter eggs, I love when you can dive into something and go deep into the rabbit hole. That's golf, that's shafts, that's bounce, that's lie angle, that's Kendrick Lamar as well. I just love when you can go deep into something, because I love to learn and I love to experience things and grow the knowledge. So that's why I like Kendrick Lamar, because Drake is fucking surface. Go deep, learn something there you go?
Speaker 1:Okay, alright, jeremy, let's talk Jordan Spieth.
Speaker 3:I was pumped. I was definitely pumped and I definitely did do some eBay searching for a TP Mills putter. Didn't find the exact one, but there's some close ones. How many do you have in?
Speaker 1:your cart right now.
Speaker 3:More than two.
Speaker 1:Just leave it at that.
Speaker 3:We'll see. Yeah, I was excited His swing like when I saw him earlier in the week, with some videos and stuff on the range, his swing is looking really good. Yeah, it is, he's looking much less chaotic and it looks like old Jordan Spieth almost, but maybe a little smoother.
Speaker 1:He's looking very comfortable over the golf ball yep and his short game is tremendous, that chip on 17 was ridiculous. His bunker play was outstanding. Just it was fun seeing him out there again, you know yep, it was, it was.
Speaker 3:I think he'll get one this year.
Speaker 1:I really think he will jtT was playing well, he had that hole out on 18. That was amazing. The Griot hole-in-one was wild.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That thing circled the cup like six times. It was just blazing around. The drunk spectators didn't take over the show. It was some good golf D-Tree wins at 24-under. Scotty Scheffler made a run early morning Sunday and was right there and then kind of fell off, but a seven-stroke victory. There hasn't been a 10-stroke victory in a long time. Brandon Shembley was talking about that, and so I mean seven strokes is a lot. Seven strokes is a lot.
Speaker 2:I didn't watch much at all. Same I didn't watch anything.
Speaker 1:Busy workers.
Speaker 4:Yeah, true, ten minutes of the tournament, but I did see Gorillaz dunk her. She's fucking slammer Dude. That was crazy 10 minutes to the tournament, but I did see Gorillaz, his whole long one Dunker, just fucking slammer.
Speaker 1:Dude, that was crazy. Such a cool shot. So yeah, another successful waste management. Crazy record crowds again. As always, good weather, little windy one day, but nothing crazy. So it's good to see that I went and bought an Adele putter.
Speaker 4:Let's see.
Speaker 1:Oh, Dan, you played Revere Sunday morning in a little scramble action. How was that?
Speaker 4:Yes, it was good, Played with some guys from work, played in a little net scramble thing. Unfortunately I had to be at a super bowl party so I couldn't didn't really stick around for the raffle and stuff afterwards. But uh, I guess with our net strokes we finished like a stroke outside of third. So we were close to bringing home some hardware. Um, uh, got a long drive and um closest to the pins I hit some good shots but I never really I didn't get in close like all the par. All the par threes had it close to the pin and every single one was like three feet. Everybody hit it to like three feet.
Speaker 1:So on one two of them.
Speaker 4:I missed the green completely on, like on the fringe, and then the other two I was like 12 feet, 10, 12 feet, so I had some good shots.
Speaker 1:It's just, you know, not good enough what what was it like for you playing so far up?
Speaker 4:oh, it was awesome because right now I'm like the last my swings coming around, so yeah, you're, yeah, I drove. I drove a lot of greens. I drove like three greens so it was fun. It's different. For sure I would never really play there on a normal day. I enjoy hitting more than driver. 60-yard pitch shot, but it's fun. No-transcript.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one time I played with a guy in the neighborhood out here and he was a starter out there at Revere and it was him and two of his friends and they were playing the silver tees on Lex and I'm like I'll play with you guys up there and it's like a completely different golf course. Yeah, I believe it A completely different, golf course, and I'm like you know. You don't have to hit driver a lot from the gold tees on Lex. You don't ever have to hit it from the silver tees.
Speaker 1:It's a completely different golf course.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, there's only one person here on the show that went to the Guap meet.
Speaker 2:No, there's not only one person.
Speaker 1:Oh, dan went, Hugh Fox, what is?
Speaker 4:RSVP'd. I didn't know you were you. I didn't see you on the rsbp this is actually trey. Trey was there, julian was there chris torres I sent you the link all you had to do is click all the names I asked you, are you going?
Speaker 1:and? And you said no, I've got to work. I said I'm going to try.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm going to try. I have to work. I'm going to try Monday or Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 1:And then nothing, fucking crickets.
Speaker 2:If you would have just registered.
Speaker 1:I wasn't going to go if nobody else was going.
Speaker 4:You didn't even ask me, so I'm out of this conversation.
Speaker 1:I didn't think you were going to because of work.
Speaker 2:I thought you had to work this guy has an everlasting quiet golf head cover that just won't disappear.
Speaker 4:I left it in the East Coast and it found its way home.
Speaker 3:And it found its way back.
Speaker 2:Golf head cover edition. Sent you the link you should have just went I was waiting to see who was gonna go you would have known who's going if you would have clicked the link and registered but did.
Speaker 1:Just because your name is on there doesn't mean you're going well then you would have known.
Speaker 2:Steven jackson registered. Trey registered. Julian registered.
Speaker 1:Dane registered you know what it is it's. It's one of those younger generational crowd things you're like yeah, don't tell matt we're going.
Speaker 2:No, it's one of those. Uh, it's not on paper. I don't have a scantron or a pencil to fill jesus christ, I email you more than anybody else.
Speaker 3:So shut up. So how was the guap? Yeah, how was it? It was dope. What was it?
Speaker 4:yeah, it was cool it was like a little pop up, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Go no, dan, go ahead.
Speaker 4:I love you, I was gonna say it was like a little pop up golf shop, golf store pop up thing where they had ahead. I love you. I was gonna say it was like. It was like a little pop-up uh golf shop um golf, golf store pop-up thing where they had um few, they had um like students golf, quiet golf was there. Devro golf was there um what was that other um?
Speaker 2:one show random golf, sanny, par number 33, miller country club, um yeah golf, um compton country club they represented.
Speaker 4:It was cool. It's a bunch of cool. Miller Country Club, yeah, compton Country Club. It was cool. It was a bunch of cool Brands that you know I follow on Instagram and stuff, and so it was cool to meet, you know, some of the guys that Work for the brand and some of the Some of them actually the creators. Nice man, I forget his name From Sandy Parr. I want to say his name Was Mike or Mark. Anyway, I'm probably way off. Man, I forget his name from Sandy par. I want to say his name was Mike or mark. Anyway, I'm probably way off, but he was a cool. He was a cool dude, so it was cool to chat him up, chat up those people and you know, see, see the products up close.
Speaker 2:Did you guys get anything? No, I did not. No, I did not. Chrisris torres bought a cousin's cousin clubs. Uh, now clubs handmade, uh tool which do the the new. So the new clubs, handmade cousin clubs tools are fucking sick dude.
Speaker 4:They feel great nice, they really do, it's not nice um, yeah, the students golf stuff is nice too.
Speaker 2:I, I really dug, I really dug their stuff I really like, uh, I tried to talk to everyone. Um, I talked to students golf and, uh, it was really interesting to talk to them. Um, one of the guys was like with stussy, like a designer for stussy for 20 years, and the other, the other guy, is one of my like he, he was the creator of one of my favorite brands, probably about, uh, what was that 12 years ago called Publish? I'm I'm sure you guys probably don't know Publish, but, dude, I I loved Publish and he's a creator of students golf, so it was. It was like really interesting to hear you know. And then to hear the Pluto golf story. Like it was like two dudes that uh went to school in Indianapolis together. They were like freshmen in college and they were both wearing uh, a clothing brand and they're like hey, oh, and they connected on that and they both played golf. They're like let's, you know it was. It was super rad like, and uh pretty much talked to every brand. Justin elders was there, uh, number 33, who I've gotten to play golf with, um, which they're they're about to launch something, uh, vintage, slash, newly inspired. I thought it was really cool and it it.
Speaker 2:It wasn't necessarily a for those that know magic or project it's. It's a sourcing event. It's where you go to purchase your uh winter um retail. You're here for, yeah, your winter line, for your store, but what they're trying to do is create a, a store. So it's called the guap meat and it's also the store, which is a store in laguna beach. Um, who, brenda hexberg, shout out brenda hexberg, random golf club. He shot us out on his uh radio show out there at kxfm. I think it is every week the random hour. But um, they did it in laguna beach and um, he knows a lot of people so they brought it to project and it was the first pos point of where you can buy something on the floor at Project or Magic is the golf store, the Guapme. It's the only place you can buy anything on the floor at Project or Magic. So really cool, really fucking cool, and I think it's going to expand 100 and um, like I was talking to uh brian I want to say his name is uh from students and he's like there's so much room for this growth and like, um, we were just talking golf dude.
Speaker 2:We were talking about like building connections and networking and like how it just builds and um, I think I said, uh, I said yeah, I met justin who was from number 33. Uh, because I met jared and he's like, oh, you know, jared, and it's like, it's just like it. We, we weave a crazy web with the trails we leave behind us, with the tee times we book, if you will. You know like we play golf with so many people, you know we play like. There's doctors in our league, there's realtors in our league in the vegas golf network.
Speaker 2:There's electricians shout out, dan, there's, you know, programmers, you know it's like and and they're connected to everybody and it's just like golf is just a crazy web that we've weaved over the past and it and it brings us closer to people in our future. So I I just think it's really. I think it's really dope. Um, guapmeat was awesome and it's cool to finally have something like cool and uh, forward facing in vegas and if you want to go, there's no time left. But if, if you're listening to this before wednesday, you can go. If you need help, let me know, but it'll be done around three tomorrow. But I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was cool nice, all right, let's get. Let's get to some horrible golf that took place. Uh, we, we were all kind of watching the the good good thing at uh in arizona live on the espn. No, it's called channel, was it? No, it was Golf Channel. Was it Golf Channel? Yeah?
Speaker 4:it was Golf Channel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the desert knockout, the desert knockout.
Speaker 3:At grass, it was rough.
Speaker 4:That was fucking rough. It was rough.
Speaker 1:That was a rough watch.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Brad Dahlke was the only one that played any kind of decent. I mean, literally everybody was fucking in the dirt all night.
Speaker 1:I couldn't believe it and joe was even like how are these guys not able to stop the ball on a 90 yard shot the green? It was like, well, how about hit the green?
Speaker 2:I mean there was some like hitting greens really bad golf shots that took place they were hitting shots into the crowd, like constantly oh, it was like every hole, every hole it I mean it there's no way that, like elevation or something like that can can be a like a gimme for that. Like I've never. I've never shot a green going from ve to you know the low country or something like that. Like they were off for sure, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:They were totally off. I mean, they're all. They're all good players. We all know that they're all good sticks. Uh, but whoo, that was.
Speaker 4:That was a hard watch and crowds make it crowds make a huge difference too, you know, I'm sure those guys are those guys aren't? Some of them aren't very good. There's like two or three guys that aren't the greatest golfers, but you mix in national television and Well, and then they have guys that aren't golfers playing too.
Speaker 1:That wasn't. I didn't think that was really smart. Yeah, when you have an event like that where the crowd is so close, I mean, there was a couple times where I'm like they should not hit the ball right now. There's too many people really close and a golf ball at a hundred miles an hour you know 150 miles an hour coming off club face can do some serious damage to somebody's face.
Speaker 2:So I was talking to Heffy who was listening earlier. He's he's like the director of sales for devro golf. Um, because I we were talking about golf courses in phoenix and he said grass clippings is, it might take a few years, because they put so much money into it, to like really become something. But he said those greens are great out there.
Speaker 1:He said he, he said the greens look great yeah so the greens are fantastic yeah, the greens look great. I mean the course for what it is is I mean it's been around since what I, what I say in the chat 52, 53, yeah, it's been around a long time, you know that's.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like we should go yeah yeah, I want to go really bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course it would be fun. Uh, I wish, I wish, I wish somebody.
Speaker 4:It's an hour from payson, just saying it's, it's doable it's doable it's doable.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, so I I'm curious to see how soon they do another one of these on Golf Channel. I'm sure there was some executives in a meeting the next day that were like why was that on TV? Can you explain this, please?
Speaker 3:You think so I don't think so. I think it's such a money thing. For them it's like a no-brainer.
Speaker 2:I don't think they care at all. Dude, we all watched it.
Speaker 1:We all watched it I know I watched some of it. I didn't like it was on I didn't know it was on and, but I mean I watched more of the good thing than I did waste management but why because I was available.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know okay all right because you're available, not because it was better maybe it was better programming time, I don't know, but um, I wanted to see what happened also, you know I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think at some point the content has to be good, not just because it's a good, good golfer.
Speaker 2:But you also have to look at it like you know they don't get to see they have a lot of fans right and they don't get to see them play under competition live all the time. We're fans of players on pga tour and we only see them play live for competition and that's why we love seeing scotty scheffler play with whoever it is like. And uh, like bob does sports, like if scotty sheffler played with bob, bob, bob does sports, we would love to watch that because we don't get to see scotty under that light, you know. But we also don't get to see good, good under the light of live competition. So it's it's like a you know we want what we can't have and I think that feeds a little bit of it like, could you imagine like when, when um, joel damon and, uh, harry higgs and I forget who else played at um in austin on that par three, like that was so cool to watch, because we don't get to see them play par three course all the time without the stress of competing on the PGA Tour and I watched all of that.
Speaker 2:So it's like there's these different avenues that we don't get to see all the time and good, good under that situation. We don't get to see all the time. I don't watch good good occasionally, but I could care less, but we don't because that see all the time. I don't watch good good occasionally, but I could care less, but we don't because that's not the content they deliver, but it was something different for them and I think that's if you can provide something different to your audience that they don't get to see all the time, that's a win and that's when people tune in I don't know, I was more.
Speaker 1:I was more entertained by people ducking and and bad shots than good golf. I mean, that's just me. That's just me. I mean I, I didn't. I did not think there was any entertainment value in it. It was, it was golf and it was on, so I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's how the entertaining thing was is are they gonna hit somebody in the crowd and have to, like, give them a bunch of polos or something?
Speaker 1:but is that? Is that something you?
Speaker 2:nope, I don't, I, I don't, I I'm not rooting for that to happen, but that's why, no, that's not what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:I mean, is that something that, as a channel that you produce golf content, network nationally, worldwide? Do you want trainwreck tv because they're youtube stars?
Speaker 2:no, but that's what hits nowadays, unfortunately. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, I truly hate it, but that's that's where it's gone, unfortunately. That's where it's gone, and that's where our minds have been destroyed. Via instagram to talk, we want the quick hit, the quick dopamine hit, and just fucking sucks.
Speaker 1:I hate it well, that wasn't quick, a couple years, took a couple years no, I'm talking about the, the, the broadcast, it wasn't you know, it wasn't, no, no, that was like three hours. Oh yeah, it was. I was like wow, it's still on jeremy's, like it's finally over, it's finally over.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just think everybody is like watching to wait for the moment. Right, like everybody's waiting for that moment. That's the viral moment. But everybody needs to take a step back and realize every moment is the moment. Soulgolf, let's go.
Speaker 1:All right, Golfo's chiming in. I took your guys' advice going to play Copper Rock in St George. Where else should I try to get on? What did we say last week?
Speaker 4:Ledges and Coral Canyon, copper Rock, sand, hollow, copper Rock yeah if you're going to do Copper Rock, you might as well do Sand Hollow, because they're're what 20 minutes apart, yeah especially with that new road.
Speaker 3:It's a lot quicker to get there yeah, it's like less than 10 minutes now, gothel you gotta try.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, joe. I would love a report from Dixie Red Hills. Muni, I want to play that so bad. It looks so cool. So if you only got time for 9, I would love a report back from that. Oh yeah, I still need to play that. I want to play that so bad. It looks so cool. So if you only got time for nine.
Speaker 1:I would love a report back from that.
Speaker 2:Dixie Red Hills. Write that down. But yeah, probably the closest one that you should probably play is the ledges. Front nine isn't that spectacular, but the back nine is amazing Okay and Coral Canyon, like we were we.
Speaker 1:We stayed right next to Coral Canyon when we played at sky mountain tournament last year and that course was looking fantastic. So is a other one to try when it? When are you playing? So was it. Is it this weekend? You're coming down Cause I? I'm curious to what the weather's going to be like for you, cause I know it's going to be cold again tomorrow. I'm curious what the weather is going to be like for you. It's going to be cold again tomorrow. We got teased with nice weather and then bam, back to freaking cold. It's going to be 44 in Lake Havasu tomorrow. It's still February. Who goes to Havasu when it's 44?
Speaker 4:You got another putter one over there tomorrow.
Speaker 1:No, no, this is all full clubs. We're bringing the whole kit and caboodle Monday and Tuesday of next week for Golf.
Speaker 4:How?
Speaker 1:Monday and Tuesday of next week. All right, we'll be watching. We'll be watching. Curious to see your thoughts on those places.
Speaker 2:Copper rock, copper rock, sand hollow, black desert, ledges, dixie, red hills, that's what I'd say. But all right and dixie red hills is a nine-hole Muni but it looks amazing.
Speaker 1:It looks really cool. Jeremy you've played it, haven't you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's been a long time, though I was younger, but it is a fun course. Hard to get tee times.
Speaker 2:Right in the middle of town. Every time I've looked it's hard to get a tee time on Dixie Red, yeah, yeah, but it looks like so much fun.
Speaker 1:All right, tea time on dixie red. Yeah, yeah, it looks like so much fun. Uh, right, if anybody was hanging out on instagram earlier, you may have seen me chatting. Vegas golf network golf. Uh, the little video. Uh, talking about the upcoming season, answer any questions that people may had, went over some of the new website features and and the things that we're doing this season. So we got seven spots now seven spots left for Sienna. Hopefully we can get those filled. Bring 72 out there.
Speaker 1:I think there's a really good chance it happens, but looking forward to that, weather is going to be nice. Knocking on wood, we're supposed to be back up in the high sixts low 70s by the end of the month, so looking forward to that, um yeah, do we gotta get a good turnout for this one? So far, I mean, we got. We got 22 players in the spades division, joe, so geez wow that's all that is a lot, that a lot.
Speaker 4:Is the Spades division the biggest division?
Speaker 1:Last year it was the Hearts division. It was the most players, and then Spades and then Diamonds. Actually, I think Diamonds was ahead of Spades. We just didn't get the players. They didn't come out and play enough. But yeah, right now Spades is leading the pack big time, which is nice, I mean. I mean there's a chance that we do split it, but uh, I don't think. I don't think this year is going to be the year we do that. I did get the new trophies in or on order, so I am doing something a little different with them this year. That's going to be a surprise. I'm not going to show you guys until the tournament. I'll show dan because he can't play in it.
Speaker 2:I'll show jerry too sorry joe, it's probably my idea that I said so what was your idea?
Speaker 1:What was your idea, dice, no, no, the dice may be for the major, I had other ideas too. Yeah, so it's probably my idea. Okay, I'll tell you. Yeah, it's your idea.
Speaker 4:Definitely your idea.
Speaker 1:So if you're listening and you want to play in the Siena event on the 22nd, you have to sign up and pay for that tournament by Friday. End of business hours on Friday, shut it off and have to turn in the player account and pay for everything the following day. So that is coming up and, dude, I am feeling so good with my golf swing right now.
Speaker 2:Siena's a great kickoff too. I haven't played Sienna in forever. I used to play there all the time. Sienna's a great golf course. I love Sienna. I'm assuming it's a great condition, because every time I've ever played Sienna it's pretty good.
Speaker 1:So I'm stoked Trey will find out for us on Saturday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got to try and find out when I can get a practice round in Next week. I've got my kiddo coming in back from New York. She's here for the week.
Speaker 2:She's going to be like hey, Daddy, take it easy, Dad, Take it easy. I'm going to get you for some cement shoes. Dad, You're going to get thrown in the Hudson, dad.
Speaker 4:Get out of here, forget about it.
Speaker 2:You forgot the clam sauce, the fucking marinara.
Speaker 1:I can't wait for her accent to come out.
Speaker 2:You want Vegas girls with a New York accent Fucking Broadway dad.
Speaker 4:We made her Italian. We didn't even turn her into a new yorker straight italian right over it, right into it she's yeah, we just jersey sopranos she's
Speaker 2:working at the bottom college life should we talk about? She's eating mac and cheese, fucking mozzarella in the fridge.
Speaker 4:What the?
Speaker 2:fuck Parabéns.
Speaker 4:A prosciutto.
Speaker 1:College life. She's eating mac and cheese.
Speaker 2:Top ramen.
Speaker 1:So we got some family action going on. We're going to go see the new Captain America movie, imax That'll be fun and then get ready for the tournament. It's going to be a busy week for me. I know I'm taking the week off from Callaway so I can get everything done and yeah, already taking vacation time.
Speaker 2:huh, company man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know well. Hey, when it says let me know the days you can work and the days you can't work, that's not really taking vacation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, I get it. I mean if your boss came up to you and said, let me know the days you can't work and you turned him in?
Speaker 2:that is that vacation. It'd be like you are not working here anymore.
Speaker 1:It's time to get going.
Speaker 3:Julian and I have been working man, we did.
Speaker 1:Oh, julian and I were working man, we, we did. We did uh bears best uh last week, uh, in 40 mile an hour winds, that was fun. Uh, we did uh revere in 20 mile an hour winds, that was fun. And then we got an absolutely gorgeous day at las vegas country club. Um, yeah, we've been. We've been slinging some gear, man, a lot of new people playing a lot of new callaway stuff here in town. So you need to sling at Las Vegas Country Club. Yeah, we've been slinging some gear, man, a lot of new people playing a lot of new Callaway stuff here in town.
Speaker 2:You need to sling that Las Vegas Country Club Connect so you can get out there. There's a little four ball, a little LVCC action. That's what you need to work on.
Speaker 1:I think Dan might have one too how could.
Speaker 2:I. I can't do that.
Speaker 1:You're Joe just walk up and be like so look at this fool, this is all he's got to post fucking Boyd Jesus which lab did he get?
Speaker 3:the new one the $1500 one, I don't know, the adam scott green I, I don't know, but not green.
Speaker 2:He sent me a picture and I was like good lord, you've been corn swoggled, you've been, I mean, you've been bamboozled I, I'm curious, so you guys, do you guys think like a, a lab putter or even a Callaway straight back, straight through square? To square help you make more putts if you are not fitted for it.
Speaker 1:I have no idea Exactly.
Speaker 2:If you're fitted for it, maybe, but if you're not fitted for it, I don't. I think the most important factor.
Speaker 3:The most important factor is if you can look down at it and feel confident. But you also need to have a stroke and whatever, but I think it's. If you're confident that you can make putts with your putter, then that's all that matters.
Speaker 2:That's my opinion yeah, and I agree and if that's a lab putter fucking rocket, go for it yeah, sure, I do think they have some great technology and great things going on, but, like if you were looking to, because jordan spieth is one-tenth of a way away from that, I don't know he was rolling that TP Mills pretty good.
Speaker 2:Exactly. But he fucking saw that in data right To his swing. He's a PGA Tour player. He understands where his face is with that putter. He understands how the ball is launching, what the roll is. He understands all that shit. So if he does go to lab, jeremy will buy one, no doubt. But will it be the best putter for Jeremy?
Speaker 3:It might be the best putter for speed at that point yeah, I will give it an honest effort If I end up having to buy one. I will give it an honest effort if I, if I end up having to buy one, I will give it a hundred percent effort to use it but what is a hundred percent effort for you, though?
Speaker 4:are you going to get on?
Speaker 2:quintic. Are you going to get on quintic? You're gonna get sam. What are you gonna do like? Because that's his hundred percent effort. That's true. What I'm saying, that's true. So he's not going to that until he understands what's happening on that do we know that that is what he did?
Speaker 1:did he say that in a video? Did he?
Speaker 2:no, but I would assume so he's, he's not gonna.
Speaker 3:He's not gonna change anything unless he sees that is my understanding like he's a tour player, like I feel like he just grabbed a putter and it's not that different than what he has and it may be felt a little better or felt different, and that's why he went with it there you go boy, good job oh not spending that money without it being right for me, says the guy who plays?
Speaker 1:off the rack putters every other week, but it's $, so oh, now I'll get fit.
Speaker 3:Won't do it for the 800 driver or the 400 wedges, but I'm gonna say something really uneducated for, really quick and I might get go for a message after I'm gonna send a letter to the state of utah no, I, I will get a. I'll get a text from someone, um, and he has two a's in his name, um, I think that pros I I really wonder if pros really do those putter analysis things as much as we think, because and maybe maybe some of them, but I feel like they are so precise already that they know and it's just a con, it's just a putter design they want.
Speaker 3:That's all the feel and the design dude, did you see? I can't see jordan bidding for that putter that's like, not even a putter that's I can agree with you.
Speaker 2:I would see I would see him going for feel at first and like if he's making putts, he'd be like let's go here to just like confirm it.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't say that's where he would start but he might go there to confirm. You know what I mean did you see the the face on detroit's putter? He's got the the milled odyssey face. It has a black wear mark on it.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:That is not that old of a face. Do you know how many? I mean? I hit a lot of putts in my backyard, a lot, and I've never put a wear mark.
Speaker 1:Well mainly because I've never had one in my bag long enough but I have never put a wear mark on a putter. I mean, and I hit mark on a putter, that I mean and I hit a lot of putts, a lot. So it's stunning to me how many putts he would have had to have hit on that face to leave that big of a mark or not. That it's not big, it's small. But that dynamic of a mark I, I guarantee you that guy is not going and looking at putting data. If he's hitting the center of the face like that, that much to leave a mark, his putting is dialed.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm betting they don't really look at data a whole lot either. I'm thinking maybe if they're getting putters built for them, they might be looking at first in the fitting to do that, but once that putter is built, or once they have it to the weight they want or whatever it is, they're just out there grinding and grinding, and grinding, and grinding, and grinding and grinding I think, I don't think I'll make you look at numbers too much. They just do strokes to just go 1,000 putts a fucking day.
Speaker 1:There's players like Harry Hall that know all his loft all his lines, all his swing weights, all his lengths, everything, big data, nerd Harry. And then, when we chatted with Min Woo at the range at TPC Summerlin, he knew nothing about his clubs, like nothing. Because Julian was like oh, what loft do you have these at?
Speaker 3:And he was like oh, what loft do you have these at what?
Speaker 1:And he was like I don't know, they just give them to me, I play them, you know. So it was just like there's different talent levels that you know. Hey, just give me the clubs that I need to and I'm going to go hit them at raw, raw talent. And then there's the techie side of it, but I think, with putting there's more feel yeah, yeah now you get into big money clubs. You know drivers and irons and approach clubs. That's that's.
Speaker 2:I think that's a little bit more important yeah, I think, I think if, if they're like searching for something, they'll they'll, they'll try some stuff out, search for the feels they like and then may go to that to confirm things. That's what I was thinking. But I did see one of my buddies. Uh, he got the malibu putter from la golf yeah, dude that thing feels amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was stunned the first time I rolled one, and this new one's even better, according to the people at la that I know. Uh, the first time I rolled it I was like whoa, I could not believe, because you look at it being all carbon, you know it. It feels very light and I was not expecting the ball to come off there feeling good at all, but it felt fantastic yeah, there, uh, it's gonna it be interesting especially after the Crank interview that you had See what they do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they're taking a big risk. They're going away from what I feel is an amazing product and trying to do something different. So I mean you're. You can't fault them for trying. You know, make your name in the space, you know and and do it. If they do it and they kill it, awesome. But man, they make really good golf shafts. And I, holy shit, cody James putter, join the chat. Cody James, wow, golf shafts tonight, holy cody james putter, join the chat.
Speaker 2:Look at cody james. Wow, that is haven't had you up in forever, like four years right there, oh man wow wow, cody james welcome to the show.
Speaker 1:Cody james in the house, welcome. Ah. So you guys got anything else you want to chat about. That's all I got for tonight. I mean, we're almost at an hour, but if there's anything that uh is tickling your fancy did you see, uh, the the irons that bryson's got, the la golf irons.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, they are different, I mean, and they're prototypes for sure, but he's got those like I don't know. I didn't get a close look, but they look odd with the all that weight in the toe to offset the weight from the shaft and the grip to move the sweet spot right in the middle.
Speaker 1:Dude, I mean, they're gonna dial them in for sure, but it's, it's gonna be a challenge yeah it's gonna be a challenge and I mean, you know there's so much science now that can be put into these things, so we'll, we'll see if it, uh, if it comes out the right way, I don't know. I think Bryson's making a mistake when you're hitting that driver. So well, I get it, he's a partner in LAGP. Why is Boyd deleting all his messages? What's going on?
Speaker 2:He's been texting me, he's told me stuff I can't tell you.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Boyd, I'm telling him, when the show's cut, stop texting me, boyd.
Speaker 1:Put him on mute, yeah, so I mean, I see why he's doing it, but we'll see if it works out. Yeah, I don't fault him. I mean, if you have, you want the company that you're a partner with to be in your bag. So, yep, I get it. Anything else?
Speaker 4:Anything else? Quick question Do you guys remember what the winning score was for farmers? I can look it up real quick do you think it'll be anywhere near that?
Speaker 2:god, no, that rough is looking freaking nasty boy just text me snitches, get stitches eight under eight under Boyd just texted me snitches get stitches Eight under Eight under one in and they had the north course in that road during that tournament right.
Speaker 1:But the weather was trash, wasn't it? It was not good most of the time. Yeah, harris, english shot 68, 73, 66, 73.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Let's see. On Sunday there was, let's see, a 71, 169. One person shot in the 60s.
Speaker 3:One person? Wow, let's see what the weather is going to be like this week.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm interested to see how the course plays because, uh, like I said when that dude, that rough that video you sent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was thick and pretty wild.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not looking great. I mean they're gonna get like 80 rainstorms wednesday, thursday, and it's probably gonna be windy friday, saturday, sunday probably going to be windy friday, saturday sunday yeah, grind grind grind, yeah, two over yeah, of course, kick their ass.
Speaker 1:Show your work go your word, dude. A lot of the guys are probably happy. The farmers? Oh. We only have to play a south course twice if we make the cut uh, you know it's like three times, not four. Yeah, now they gotta play it four, three times, not four.
Speaker 2:Now they've got to play it four. You guys brought up no TGL this week. I'm assuming it's just because all the players are at.
Speaker 1:Genesis.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true. On Monday it's supposed to be a triple header. I think President's Day Three matches.
Speaker 4:We're having a triple header.
Speaker 1:Three matches on President's Day Three matches All day.
Speaker 3:Golf Three matches oh, we're having a triple header. Three matches on President's Day Three matches oh shit, All day golf.
Speaker 1:Indoor style yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the weather's not good. Indoor golf let's go.
Speaker 1:Funny. All right, well, that'll do it for this week. Thanks everybody for tuning in. Joe, you want to do your thing. Get us out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Thanks everybody for tuning in to this week's episode of the Chasing Daylight, number 313, which is pretty wild. We just passed. Amber is the color of your man.
Speaker 1:That was last week.
Speaker 2:Bye too, we'll see you next week. We're here every single week, you know. Play golf, enjoy yourself, swing better, find yourself, find your swing. If you're frustrated, work at it. You know it's a game, and enjoy golf every chance you get. We'll catch you next week. Until then, chase the Daylight out Later, later, later, later, later, thank you.
