The Chasing Daylight Podcast
Four amateur golfers in Las Vegas talk weekly about the game. This show is for the obsessed golf fan who likes to nerd out on the game's different topics. Look for interviews from insiders within the industry and banter from their opinions on golf's current state. And discussions about headline topics like the Major tournaments and the hot new clubs hitting the shelves. Real talk from real people who play the game.
The Chasing Daylight Podcast
329: From Michigan Golf Trips to Scottie's Dominance
Have you ever made a simple equipment mistake that cost you 15+ yards? That's exactly what happened to our host, who discovered his woods were a full inch too short—a reminder that even experienced players can overlook the basics. This revelation is just one highlight from an episode packed with authentic golf insights from players who live and breathe the game.
The journey begins in Michigan, where Dan takes us through his golf adventure at destinations like Pilgrim's Run and Bay Harbor. His vivid descriptions of bent grass greens, dramatic elevation changes, and even swarms of pesky midges paint a complete picture of what makes Michigan golf special. The genuine enthusiasm in his voice might just move this destination higher on your golf bucket list.
Meanwhile, equipment discussions take center stage as the crew debates whether mini drivers are innovative tools or marketing gimmicks. They also dissect TaylorMade's splashy gold driver release (comparing it to something Austin Powers might use) and the practical appeal of Callaway's new Sandstorm colorway. These conversations offer the kind of unfiltered perspective you'd expect from friends debating gear at the 19th hole.
Professional golf receives thorough coverage too, from Scottie Scheffler's dominance (16 wins with an average victory margin of 3.5 strokes) to the drama of US Open qualifying, where former champions now battle just to make the field. The hosts even analyze the controversy between Jack Nicklaus and Rory McIlroy, offering balanced takes on golf's evolving traditions and protocols.
Whether you're planning your next golf trip, considering equipment changes, or simply enjoy candid commentary on the professional game, this episode delivers authentic insights from passionate golfers who speak your language. Ready to join the conversation?
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What is up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. I will apologize in advance to everybody trying to get into the Instagram live. I'm having a little bit of issues right now. It was working and then now it's not, so my apologies for that. Hopefully I can get it going here, uh, really quickly. So, uh, until I get that going.
Speaker 1:Uh, everybody, thank you so much for tuning in this week's show. Uh, we got a. There's a lot to talk about. There's so much going on. Uh, dan is back from michigan with trey joe is in arizona glass clippings. He said he may try and hop in with us.
Speaker 1:Uh, jeremy's back after being gone for a couple weeks. Welcome back, sir, thank you. Thank you, uh. And uh, dan is severely jet lagged.
Speaker 1:So, um, we, we had a lot going on this last week. I worked probably the most that I've worked for callaway in consecutive days in a while and it just was 110 degrees outside. That's all. Um, got some golf in and uh, we did a women's day event. Shout out cat and uh, cat marks or cat moon. Yes, sorry, uh for uh making that event. It was. It was so much fun, I had so much fun. It was an absolute blast. Uh, so, but uh, let's see what else we got. Um, I had a little staycation in vegas. We can talk about that. Uh, jeremy's back, uh, oh, and then the little video I posted today about something I tweaked in my bag. We'll get to that. Uh news, there's a whole bunch of stuff going on the news. We'll get that in a little bit. But, dan, let's hear about your rota, what took place in michigan, and I'll try and get the ig working all right, um, michigan.
Speaker 2:We flew into, um, uh, grand rapids. We didn't get there, we didn't play any golf the first night, but the next morning we had a tea time at pilgrim's run. Uh, pilgrim's run was sick. Um, I never did find out or actually I did find out who designed it, but the name escapes me at the moment. But pilgrims run is is sick. It's about a half hour outside of, uh, north of grand rapids. Um, really tricky greens, like. I feel like those greens are like almost like donald ross inspired, because there's a lot of undulations and some drop-offs and some run-offs. Um, but it was an awesome course to start with. It was a great condition.
Speaker 2:Um, then the next day we were supposed to play in that tournament, um, at the loop, but when we got up to ross common, we decided to go play on the par three just to screw around, kill some time, and unfortunately, uh, there was this hole and unfortunately, trade stepped in it and tweaked his ankle and it was just a freak thing and it just got to the point where it was swollen enough, where, you know, we had to walk 36 holes and on a, on a sprained ankle which you can hardly put any weight on that's. You know it's damn near hard enough to make a golf swing, let alone do that and walk 36 holes. So, um, you know, we talked about it and decided ultimately the best you know, just for him to relax and try to heal up. There's no point in really trying to damage it further. So that day we just hung out, we went to Arcadia Bluffs, had some lunch out there, beautiful golf course, and then the next day Trey soldiered up and we played some golf and he fought through the pain a little bit, but we played um the arthur hills masterpiece, or, excuse me, the arthur hills course and, uh, bay harbor, which is up in boyne city, which is a beautiful area.
Speaker 2:Those golf courses were turned out to be our favorite of the trip. The arthur hills course was was sick, it was like a rolling. It was like rolling hills, parkland style golf course. Pristine conditions, fast greens there were. Everything was perfect. There were bent grass greens out there. So you know, bent grass greens are pretty pretty much perfect putting surfaces. And those two courses were probably our favorites for sure, and arguably the best ones that we've played yet in Michigan. So that was a lot of fun to get that in.
Speaker 2:And then the final day we went and played treetops, played the RTJ out there, the Robert Trent Jones masterpiece out there and then we played the par 3 golf course Same thing, the RTJ was sick. Lots of, uh, rolling, rolling hills I think that's just kind of like. You know the topography of that that area, but it's awesome. Awesome golf courses, great elevation, um changes in all those golf courses up there. We played a couple of the par threes were probably, and par fives were anywhere from 80 to like 120 feet and drop. So there was some serious innovation but it was. It was an awesome trip. It was unfortunate Trey got hurt. If you have not played golf in Michigan, it is, it is worth it, it is and it's not very expensive. So yeah, michigan is, michigan is is really really nice, especially during the summer, of course.
Speaker 3:I didn't know, you guys were that far North. You were like as far North as you can go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were almost in the in the upper peninsula. I mean, we were just right, right outside of, I think. What is it? Mackinac, that city? That's the last city cross before you get up to the uh, upper peninsula. But it was beautiful, it was really really pretty and um great golf courses up there how was the drive from the airport to where you guys went?
Speaker 1:was it good?
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean, it's a lot of like farmland, open, open land. Um, once you get out of grand, uh, grand rapids, it's about a two and a half hour drive, I think, to get up to, uh, where our first stop was, um, but yeah, it's, it's easy. I mean, gray walls is my dream course. Yeah, gray walls looks sick cliff, um, I think that's up in the up, I believe. And uh, yeah, that's. A lot of people have said that there's the golf's even even better up there, so excited for that. And yeah, michigan is. There's so much good golf in that Michigan and Wisconsin area, right on that, right on the lake, right there, so got to get out there.
Speaker 3:Was treetops the one that you were sending pictures and you could see the lake? Or was that one of the others that you were sending pictures and you could see the lake?
Speaker 2:or was that uh, one of the others? You can see the lake, the ones we could see the lake off the side. That was um, that was bay harbor. Bay harbor has three nines. Uh, we played the links and the quarry and, uh, man, those, that is probably the most picturesque course we played. It was a great. It was a great golf course. It had gave me a lot of uh. Even trey mentioned it, um, there was, he got um a little bit of uh, I think it was that course he had mentioned. He got ban and trail vibes from and I got a little bit of pacific dune vibes because of the holes that are like right on the water and, um, it's not as lengthy as as uh, as Bannon dunes is, but just, uh, just, the holes that are on the water was just very, was very similar to, to um, bannon dunes and it was uh, it was pretty, it was beautiful.
Speaker 1:And you guys got blessed with some great weather, yeah yeah, we got real lucky.
Speaker 2:Um, I know it was scorching here, but uh, I think the first day was a little bit on the cooler side. I think the first day was like 64 or something like that, but other than that, you know, we were in shorts and shorts and short sleeves pretty much the whole time. The last day was beautiful, it was like 80. The one thing I will say about Bay Harbor that sucked.
Speaker 2:Nothing sucked about the course, but they had like an infestation of these bugs. They called them like like nymphs or midges or something like that midges and they were fucking everywhere. I mean, just, it was like an infestation all over you. You're driving, they're flying into your eyes, they're hitting your mouth and shit it was, and it was for like the first five holes. So for as beautiful as the golf course was, all those pictures I sent you. The whole time trey and I were battling these, fucking these bugs. It was gross. It was gross. There was literally hundreds of them on us and on the golf cart and we were beating them off of us. It was. It was fucking sick, but a lot of fun beautiful golf course.
Speaker 2:These images are awful, mike from bgc yeah, see, mike knows, mike knows, it's fucked up. It was like pestilence. That's's how bad. It was Like a plague.
Speaker 1:Sorry, ig is just not working. I don't know what the hell is going on. I don't know, I don't get it. I was just going to try and make a post here real quick to let everybody know hey, we're on Facebook and we're on YouTube, if anybody wants to catch the live. So, um, that's just really have to find it, or you can listen tomorrow. So, either way, I don't know it's because joe's not here, that's.
Speaker 1:I don't know what it is, it's, it's just uh, typically it just pops up and says go live, and it's just not happening. So he really clearly there's an issue. It's a hundred percent Joe's fault. A hundred percent, it's Joe's fault. So what's? You're definitely fan, fan of Michigan golf, right? Oh, hell, yeah, yeah, we were talking about it.
Speaker 2:We were talking about it too, about, like, how much different it is than most of the golf that we've played in our lives. And then we just started talking about getting out to Wisconsin and how we're going to have to make cause this is our third trip now for Trey and I actually second trip for Trey and I to Michigan.
Speaker 3:But we keep talking about, like, do we got to get, eventually get to Wisconsin because we got, you know, kohler out there, sand lake, geneva, lockley, I mean just the whole area now is is super, super, super high on my list and, uh, got to get out there soon I think the cool thing about it is like that, all these pockets of golf all over the country, it's so different, like you're not going to see the same style of courses if you travel, you know, obviously in the same geographical areas, but like band, that's kind of its own thing, southern California, that's kind of its own feel, and Pacific Northwest and the desert and Michigan. That's what's cool is you can go to different parts of the country and have a completely different type of experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and what's really cool about what I noticed and where we traveled there's a lot of land out there. It's just open land and you could see where you can have open, like you can make like an open link style course and then eventually take your course into the trees, because there's lots of areas where it's just open rolling long grass areas and then just a little bit further back got groves of forest so you can get like real funky with it. And that's kind of like how I got a little bit of uh trails vibes out there in michigan too, because matt, you know, on trails, or jeremy too also, you got you've been out there uh trails like the. There's like what three or four holes that start out on the sand Hills and then go right back into the trees, you know it's.
Speaker 2:You can do that in Michigan. I mean, granted you're not on the, you're not on. You know it's not like a Lynxie style course, but you can make yourself a course where you're like in area with no trees and then all of a sudden you could just carve one right out in the forest.
Speaker 2:That's pretty already planning your michigan next year's trip well, I mean, I haven't really, we haven't really planned a trip next year. We really want to try to get out to wisconsin. So, mike, if you're listening, still, I'm going to be uh, I'm going to be chatting with you here a lot. Maybe we get something squared up and get a trip out there going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we need to make that happen, yeah.
Speaker 3:Dude Aaron Hills looked incredible.
Speaker 1:Got to be Wisco Dan.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, aaron.
Speaker 1:I mean, it was special Special man. That place is so good, so good. All right, jeremy, where the hell have you been the last two weeks? What's your story?
Speaker 3:I've been in new york no golf, but we we were in new jersey, about five minutes from baltimore. Also, I wanted to go over there but I just didn't have time and I probably wouldn't be welcome either. Yeah, we were just were just hanging out in New York and it was a family trip. So no clubs. But I was surprised how many golf shops there are in Manhattan. Actually I didn't go to any of them, but tons of simulator bars and fitting studios and golf, huge golf stores.
Speaker 1:But yeah, my daughter's been working at the Five Iron right by the Iron iron building yeah, really yeah, that's where she's been working. That's her been her part-time job while she's been down there. That's awesome, yeah so, but she just had her last day. She comes comes home sunday night, so she'll be home for the summer but she's, she's kind of you know loving hitting golf balls right now.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to get her out on the course because she she swings the club faster than I do, it's sad to say, but to be to be young, athletic and limber, as uh you know, there's benefits to it. So, all right, gonna get her out on the course. Uh, we said joe's in arizona, um, for anybody that's tuning in that hopped on to uh the youtube that is a whatnot viewer of joe's and he's been pushing the show hard on his uh, on his telecast of the is of his whatnot. Uh, thank you so much. Uh, you know throw a w in the chat if you're here from whatnot.
Speaker 1:So we know there's a lot of great people on there and that community is crazy, crazy. Big Dan, your boy, had his first show the other night. I know crazy. That was insane.
Speaker 2:Six hours. He was on for six hours. I couldn't do it. He was on for six hours and just selling like from like all the clubs that he goes to, selling all the like top 100, merch, all this. I'm just like damn Matt, I didn't realize how much he had. I mean, I knew he had a bunch. I know he does a lot did.
Speaker 1:He have a lot of stuff and I was like, save some for the other shows. You were just throwing up too much fire right now. There was so much stuff on there, some really cool stuff. I mean I, you know we all kind of don't like repping places we haven't played. But you know, when you get some like brooms, edge hats and you know there's that pine valley shirts yeah, just valley, that was nuts wow and he
Speaker 2:doesn't like national golf, like stuff?
Speaker 1:no, he doesn't why doesn't he like pine valley? I mean, we're gonna, we're gonna have him on the show and and we'll talk about it, but what uh nuts mike, you don't know what is.
Speaker 3:I think he's being sarcastic. He's got to be.
Speaker 1:You have to be sarcastic, right.
Speaker 2:He's a prankster. You never know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you never know that guy. He's probably behind the largest WhatNot show on there.
Speaker 1:He's funding it. No, dead serious, oh, okay, well, go to the app store on your phone, download whatnot. And it's just how it says w-h-a-t-n-o-t. It's ebay, but the auctions are live and they end right there and the only people that can purchase are the people that are watching. So the bigger audience you have, the bigger chance you have to make more money. Smaller audience you know stuff doesn't go, but joe's been doing it for about a month and a half now, got himself up to 1.3 000 followers and, uh, his shows are are rather entertaining.
Speaker 2:So it's uh, but it's dangerous you can score some crazy good deals, though it's dangerous because there is I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know how much, how often you guys are on it, but like the people who have all the milwaukee tools, where the hell are they getting all of that?
Speaker 1:yeah because that blows me away. They have like a living room full of milwaukee stuff and it's not cheap. You know that stuff's not cheap, so I don't know if they're, but there's like 10 of them on there and they're all selling the same stuff and it's it's crazy. So if if you're looking for some impact wrenches or nailers, yeah, I just wanted to get a drills vacuum.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean crazy deals, wow. So, yeah, yeah, but watch for Joe, uh, and bookmark his shows and all that good stuff that goes along with it. All right, uh. So I posted a video earlier today and I forgot to load it to share it. But, uh, it was a swing that I took out at dragon ridge on the range, my three wood, the club that's been hit and miss. For me it's fantastic off the tee, but I'm struggling with it off the deck. I'm a range hero with it, I smoke it on the range, I get on the course and it's just not the same. Um, so I uh, the day before we were at legacy, or no?
Speaker 1:The following day we were at legacy and, um, I was hitting, uh, my seven wood and my five wood and I was not getting the distance that I wanted out of them, like what the hell? Why am I not, you know, and I was taking into account the range balls, uh. So I went and grabbed one of the the five woods, a regular flex five wood, and I was hitting it 15 yards further than mine. I was like what, what the hell? So then I go grab a stock seven wood and same thing, 15 yards further than mine. And so I'm like you know, I'm like julian, what is going on? And so we grab both of them and look, and mine were like an inch shorter than standard length and uh, I knew I, I I thought I was playing them half short, I didn't realize it was the full inch.
Speaker 1:Uh, so, to answer the question I put on there, what did I do after I hit that shot? Yeah, I pulled the shaft from that three wood because it is proper five wood length and put it in the five wood. And then pulled the shaft from my seven wood, went over to the bin of shafts, found a hazardous shaft that was the length that I needed, put it in and then played Palm Valley on Sunday but got to test it at Angel Park on Saturday and oh, my goodness, what a difference. What a difference. Wild, wild, wild.
Speaker 1:So even the mayor can fuck up and make mistakes. So check your club links, people, check your club links. Make sure if you're losing distance, check it and see. So that was a big surprise to me because those clubs I bought, they came in standard and I played them, but then when I changed the shafts, I just cut too much off. It happens, mistakes happen. I'm just going to kill Instagram here. All right, dragon Ridge If you get a chance to get out to Dragon Ridge, get out to Dragon Ridge right away, because the greens Dan remember when we played.
Speaker 2:When we played it.
Speaker 1:I remember I remember most of it, yeah, not all of it, uh, the the greens had recently had like a, a thin punch uh, what a time punch, I guess what the terminology is. Um, and they, you could tell that they were going to be good in a couple weeks. Yeah, they are beyond good. We played after our fittings and it was 106 degrees out and it was late in the afternoon, like 4 or 5 o'clock, and I figured they were going to be like what happens at National when the hot sun gets out there. They were going to be furry and slow, fucking pool table. They were running 14s easily pool table, smooth and just pure it was so much fun to put on having fast greens like that in great condition.
Speaker 1:Yeah, judy says 14s, they were fast, fast, but so good, you know. And Kat, hey, let the cream keeper know how much we appreciate this, because we don't get this out here very often, especially in the heat, especially, you know a course like that. That it's. You know it's tough to maintain a hillside course like that. So if you get a chance, go do it, because it is incredible right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we need to get up there.
Speaker 1:It's been, it's been too long yeah it see if we know anyone I really, yeah, we know a couple maybe, maybe a few people, two or three, five, seven maybe. But yeah, good things happening out there. Dragon ridge, all right, um, so we had a, we had a staycation and there's nothing that makes you regret the city you live in when you go stay downtown in the city you live in. I mean, wow, is that a wild place down on the strip? It's just so. It's so crazy.
Speaker 1:And you know, we, we uh went over to the flamingo pool because the flamingo pool just revamped it and opened up. So we, we found out locals could get in free. So we go down there and, um, yeah, locals get in free. To the 21 and older bar part of the pool. Uh, brooklyn's, not brooklyn's, not 21 yet. So, uh, it was a wasted walk but it was early in the morning and uh, you know it wasn't a far walk but we were outdoors in the morning on in vegas and you know the freaks go out at night and they stay out all night and uh, they're walking around in the morning and zombies, the walk of shame and the people coming out of the casinos that are like.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:They've been enduring Wild stuff man.
Speaker 2:Wild stuff. Half of them are barefoot, walking in the street and shit.
Speaker 1:And the street performers are out there at nine in the morning and it's just like no one's tipping you nine in the morning and it's just like, bro, no one's tipping you at nine in the morning.
Speaker 3:Sorry, Sonic the Hedgehog no one's getting a picture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no shit.
Speaker 1:Spider-Man with a it looked like his kid drew it on a bag of a paper plate mask. I'm not paying you to take my picture, sorry, it's bad and and the everything smells like weed. Now, everything everywhere you. Just you step outside and it just reeks of weed. And no disrespect to those people that like marijuana, but it's, it's just, man, it's like everywhere you go, everywhere you go. That's how time square was. I said respect the hustle yeah it no time square was I mean you can't walk 10 feet without getting asked if I could take your picture no, it's.
Speaker 3:It felt like I was on the strip. I I'm not a huge fan of time square. Really. I mean it's cool to see, but how, how quick?
Speaker 1:were you tired of new y Dude?
Speaker 3:I hate that song so much man, the people in the little motorcycle carts that drive by with it on.
Speaker 1:it's like I hear that song one more time. I swear the camera that does the 360 around you, every single one of them. Every single one of them just cranking New York.
Speaker 2:Did you get to do like real touristy shit? Did you get to go to like the world trade center?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, we went to world trade center, isn't?
Speaker 1:that crazy.
Speaker 3:That means the I want to see that massive. It's so crazy how did you do this? 9-11 memorial uh no, we just went outside the bulls. I know we're gonna, we're gonna go back.
Speaker 1:I mean because that, that is impressive, yeah, it is.
Speaker 3:We went just below your way we walked everywhere, man, we, we walked. We went to statue of liberty, we went brooklyn bridge, we went empire state building, we went. Central park is probably the highlight. Like my kids, we just like we were exhausted. We just sat on the bench and the kids just look, climbing the rocks and the playground is like the best part, but there's still so much to do there it's crazy, so much to see well, our modern art.
Speaker 3:The moma, the museum of modern art, was incredible natural history museum. Yeah, we did that one too there's so much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you looked really you looked really excited to see. What is that star?
Speaker 3:dude starring that's my all-time, like he did the lego god, it was dude yeah, I was like look at jay I didn't really see.
Speaker 2:This looks like an art. I'm sophisticated.
Speaker 1:I guess, that was awesome.
Speaker 3:My kids bored out of their mind completely. They didn't appreciate that we saw like Dolly paintings and Picassos and it was physical for me One day they will.
Speaker 1:One day they will. Yeah, so sorry, mike, he says, don't hate too much, coming back in August, we look forward to your return. Just try not to stay down on the strip. There's other places to stay that are much better and less weirdos. What do we got here Friday, august 7th, rio Seco, august 8th, cascada need to fill our four fellows early. First come, first serve. Sorry, joe.
Speaker 2:Joe always seems to be out on the episodes where the golf invites come in, I mean he's playing grass clippings and then TPC Stadium tomorrow, so I mean he's doing.
Speaker 1:Fine, I don't feel bad for him, he's probably wondering why we're not on Instagram right now.
Speaker 4:Let's see.
Speaker 1:August hey, we don't have any tournaments that weekend, so you're oh, wait that weekend. So you're yeah, oh wait. No, the 9th we do, but the 7th and 8th we don't. So, yeah, Done, let's do it. We are in good shape right now and Cascada is getting their stuff back, so excited for that one. All right, so we talked about some new stuff. Did you guys see that post with Jack talking about how Rory didn't tell him he wasn't playing in the tournament?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean. So you're, rory. You just won the Masters, you've completed the Grand Slam, arguably solidified yourself as one of the top 10 greatest golfers to play. Dan, what are you drinking, matt? I'm glad you survived the rain. Jeremy, glad you're back. Oh, look at Greenlee Liquid death.
Speaker 2:Dead billionaire.
Speaker 1:Does he need to call Jack? Tell him he's not playing.
Speaker 2:I don't necessarily think he needs to call Jack, but it's probably one of those tournaments where it's kind of like the unspoken right thing to do yeah especially from Jack, is getting bitter.
Speaker 2:I would agree with that too, Cliff. You know, maybe Jack's trying to hype up his tournament and make it a little bit more than you know, maybe just to bring a little extra drama to it this week. But I don't know. I think you know, if it was me and I planned on not playing and it was Jack Sermon, yeah, I probably would have been like giving him a heads up. Also, too, Rory's a grown man. He can do whatever the fuck he wants. Why does he have to bend the knee to Jack Nicklaus?
Speaker 1:Whatever, it didn't bother you as much as it bothered some other people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people were very bothered, for sure.
Speaker 1:Oh much as it bothered some other people. Yeah, people are very bothered, for sure. Oh man, like upset, like oh the lack of respect, like and see.
Speaker 2:That's the thing, though because it's rory, I think a lot of people he's such a polarizing guy because a lot of times rory has said one thing and then turn around and put his foot in his mouth about that same thing.
Speaker 3:You know or backtrack so I think a lot of people like to hate rory and this is just another thing to fucking jab adam about, you know yep you hear jack uh ripping and ripping on him about uh on course interviews and stuff like that now he hates on course interviews and saying if they would have done that back in the day they would get punched in the face and they shouldn't be, doing that and he had some pretty strong words, for I think some of the, some of that new stuff that they're kind of trying is jack's not a fan of. But then I did see him with like good, good and yeah, those guys doing putting lessons.
Speaker 2:I think it's all in the timing. If you're going to interview somebody, you might not want to go live. If they just go bogey bogey. You know what I mean. You can maybe go live if they're happy. I wouldn't even go live with them if they're in a heater. If somebody's like 7 or 8 under.
Speaker 1:Don't let them be.
Speaker 2:Maybe hit them up on 16, 17, if they're up by four or five.
Speaker 1:Or go somewhere and find another person.
Speaker 2:Or the start of the round. Yeah, First few holes.
Speaker 3:Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 2:I think the on-course interview is all about the timing and where you hit somebody up at.
Speaker 1:BGC. Rory is overdoing, is over doing the right thing, did that by staying loyal to the tour and they made him look foolish by folding to live. He's done being the poster boy for the tour.
Speaker 1:I can yeah, I think so too uh, cliff saying rory is like prison mike now, yeah, yeah, he doesn't. Uh, I, I he's, I got my grand slam. I could give two fucks about what anybody else thinks right now you don't like it? Oh well, I'm still gonna go out and do me, so, uh. And then in the tailor-made world, they released their zero torque putter, and anytime anything zero torque happens, I get bombarded with messages I don't know why you're the zero torque man now oh, my god, everybody.
Speaker 1:Did you see this? Did you see this? Did you see this? So I had a great chat with uh dave from goodwood. So uh, shout out to him If you haven't checked out last week's episode, go back, listen to that. That was a fantastic interview. Talked with him about that, it was a lot of fun and yeah. So, okay, it's another putter, it's another putter. That's all it is to it.
Speaker 2:Uh-oh, green leaves, did you you see? Tanamade also released um the gold and platinum versions of their qi 35 too.
Speaker 1:I thought it was ugly.
Speaker 2:To be honest, quite understand that yeah, I thought it was like what the that's not a good look, I don't think oh yeah, cliff, right here.
Speaker 1:Did you see the drivers they released today?
Speaker 2:yeah, they're. They're in my opinion, in my opinion, respectfully.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen them yet.
Speaker 1:Oh, you haven't seen drivers oh yeah, yeah, they just went with different colors gold and platinum.
Speaker 2:They went with the gold and platinum release and it's just, it's not it. Yeah, check it out, jay, yeah it's, uh, it it's vibrant.
Speaker 3:Wow, I saw that earlier. I saw it and thought oh wow, that's weird, and didn't even look at it.
Speaker 1:I didn't know it was Taylor Bay it is vibrant Jeez. I'll bring this up so everybody can see it's wild.
Speaker 3:Jeez, there we go, bam. Do you remember that brand called gold? I think it was goldwyn or something like that, but it was my buddy in high school who's the grandson of uh, billy casper. He would always get these clubs from his grandpa and and one of them is this set of Goldwyn Woods. They look just like this, but small, like solid gold design that's what I thought when I saw that yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't remember the name, but there used to be a driver back in the day and I want to say it was like late 90s, early 2000s and it had like a goldish bronze finish, but I forget the name of it too.
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 3:Hanma's got that breeze line.
Speaker 2:It was made of aluminum or some shit.
Speaker 3:I thought they were Hanma's when I skimmed past them.
Speaker 1:Cliff says you have to have the whole outfit to get those Like the dudes that be pretty.
Speaker 3:Yes, the gold statue guy.
Speaker 1:Like the dudes. That pretty be yo be statue. I don't know.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, cliff I think we know what he's saying yeah, yeah, that's, uh, that's a flavor flay of driver right there yeah, yeah, looks like drive austin powers character would use.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's gold member yeah, it's it's, yeah, it's gold member yeah, it's gold so, and then let me uh, since we're talking new drivers, let me uh, bring up an image of the new callaway driver. It's not a new driver, it's just a new colorway. They do this with the military every now and then, and this latest version is actually pretty sick looking, so let me just pop this real quick and add image.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's the sandstorm.
Speaker 1:That's right, yeah, the sandstorm yeah, it's not bad, and it's got a shaft that matches it and a grip that matches it and a head cover that matches it. So is it just the bottom? Yeah, and then it's got the matte finish on the top. It's got the black matte on the top and it's got the black matte on the top and it's just on that, yeah, and then the triple diamond max.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, matt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm going to have to try it.
Speaker 1:And the triple diamond tour draw.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have to try the triple diamond max Might have to upgrade the driver.
Speaker 1:It's pretty darn good. It's pretty darn good, it's pretty darn good. Um, oh, this was uh, this was the uh women's day event. That cat put on uh snga women's day event out at las vegas national. This was an absolute blast. I I wasn't sure what was going to happen with this. I hadn't done one of these before. But uh, they this is the first time they had a fitting tent and we were basically there just to explain what fitting is for those uh players that showed up that that didn't know, and we gave them some clubs to hit and kind of showed them what the fitting process was like.
Speaker 1:It was a huge success. We had there were six different stations. We'd spend 15, 20 minutes with the ladies and they'd go over the next station. Uh, trey was out there helping, uh, big matt was out there, a couple of the other club pros and fitters in town. They had a lesson thing, they had a chipping thing, they had a putting thing, they had a golf 101 thing, kenny ubala was out there for S and GA and uh, there was a ton of ladies and uh, there's some, some ladies that can play golf, that uh are just new to the game. So it's exciting that you know things like this and, like I said, hat off to cat for putting that together and it being wildly successful. So be uh. Follow the SNGA for more information about events like this coming up in the future. Uh-oh, sandstorm Lawsuit coming from a famous DJ with a song called.
Speaker 1:That oh God.
Speaker 3:If you have that driver, that's your entrance. Music to the T-Box.
Speaker 1:Famous plug for the company man. Hey, a TaylorM may driver went first, right, we shared ah, okay, what do we got next?
Speaker 3:I got an equipment question. Okay, then maybe eric will have an opinion. And you guys, what's with the mini drivers thing? Like there's a lot of pros using the mini drivers and is that I mean, and it's not replacing their driver and I don't know that a lot of them are hitting them off the deck? Maybe they are, but it feels like it's sort of a redundant club in my opinion. But what do you guys think about that, the phenomenon that is a mini driver?
Speaker 1:greenly. You want to chime in juju? You want to chime in anybody else want uh it for? For what I have seen, it's for people that struggle with the driver. It's a, you know it's a little bit lofted, it's a little bit smaller, a little bit more forgiving, not as long uh. So it's just something to help you get it in the fairway. You know we've been Julian and I have been messing around with getting numbers on shorter driver shaft lengths and the consistency of hitting the fairway goes through the roof when you play a shorter driver.
Speaker 3:It just seems like 3-wood would be the club, but I don't have enough space to answer that.
Speaker 1:It cuts me off at a certain number of letters what's false.
Speaker 1:What's false? Uh, let's see, I can shape it to draw instead of standard fade. Also, they hit the driver too far. That's what we've seen. That's what we've seen. You know, it's an easier club, I think, for players to get it in the fairway. Pros, they're playing it because, like Cliff said, they hit it too far and it's something that's a little bit more reliable. I mean, not everybody's hitting it perfectly on tour, so you know everybody's gonna have issues, but it's. I mean, you're, they're looking for numbers, they, they want a window, they want a number, they want a spin and they're finding that with that club for what they want. False again, stop it. What am I falsing? Tell me what I'm falsing. I'm not a tour guy, I'm just a local fitter. False again, stop it. What am I falsing? Tell me what I'm falsing. I'm not a tour guy.
Speaker 3:I'm just a local fitter. They do look good though, Do I?
Speaker 2:have to send you another invite. I think it's just a gimmick personally, just something to sell money, just to sell, make more money. I can't really see a benefit. I mean I could see. Mean I could see, maybe, like you said, matt with getting a little bit more control with it. Yeah, I do see some pros using it. Um, maybe that's just because core setup, I don't know. But I don't know, man, I just don't buy the mini drivers. I think it's just another. I think it's like a snake oil thing it's a fad.
Speaker 3:It just seems like there's more loading the loading the top of the bag instead of loading the bottom of the bag, sort of yeah, maybe all right, greenlee, in like five words tell me what I'm falls up. I'm curious we'll get a text oh, he's probably furious right now.
Speaker 1:Uh, all right. So then, uh, yesterday we had the golf's longest day, which was the uh, final day of qualifying. It is player dependent, it's course management dependent. That's what I said. Oh, goodness gracious Cliff man. Equipment changes over time. Think of Seven Woods becoming more common. Oh, absolutely, we're fitting more players to Seven and Nine Woods than ever before.
Speaker 2:Ever, before.
Speaker 1:All right. So the US Open qual final day was uh monday? Golf's longest day. If you're on golf channel, you saw all of it. Uh. What was great is we have some big names that are not exempt anymore into these events, and so max homer, ricky fowler, zach blair was in one, he got through. Mark leishman, live player, got through. Um, who was, uh, cameron young, uh he got through. I mean guys that you're like surprised that they're wow these guys. Webb simpson tried qualifying, didn't get through. Former winner of the us open.
Speaker 2:Yeah just to touch on this real quick. While we're talking about max homa, I've read today that him and his caddy are done. That's why he carried his own bag.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he wants to do that or not. They separated their ways. At the end of Memorial he had no caddy. Maybe that's a good thing for him.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Max Homa, if you're listening, I'll carry your bag, bro.
Speaker 1:Dan is for hire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me know.
Speaker 3:So cowboy LA boys.
Speaker 2:Let me know yeah, we got a lot in common, Max. A lot in common, Max.
Speaker 1:So how about the Mason Howell 17-year-old shoots 63-63 to get in? He'll be a freshman in Georgia in two years. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Bogey-free 63s Yep. Yeah, 36 holes, no bogey, yeah, max.
Speaker 1:Homa and Ricky Fowler are both in the playoff. And then Max Homa had a putt to be the first alternate and just weakly tried to tap it in and it didn't go in.
Speaker 2:Force banked it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the shot, did you see the shot that Zach Blair hit in the playoff?
Speaker 2:Wow that was beautiful.
Speaker 1:Stuck at the two inches.
Speaker 2:You know what's not beautiful? That putting grip and that putting stroke that Zach Blair has right now, and they were talking the reverse. Fuck, oh my God, that's like, that's like, borderline, borderline. Worse than Willie Z.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Here's Eric.
Speaker 1:Here's Eric's explanation. I'm going to call Matt tomorrow and get a different opinion across just an opinion, but I have facts to back it up. I'm high. I'm going to sleep Glad. A different opinion across just an opinion, but I have facts to back it up.
Speaker 3:I'm high, I'm going to sleep glad you enjoyed michigan, dan.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'll be.
Speaker 3:I'll be looking forward to that phone call I would love to go watch some of those guys play in that qualifier. I think it'd be fun oh, absolutely all right.
Speaker 1:speaking of qualifiers, are you fucks gonna do it? Some of those guys play in that qualifier. I think it'd be fun. Oh, absolutely. Speaking of qualifiers, are you fucks going to do it? Look at him, he won't do it.
Speaker 3:Honestly, we should just do it, you should just do it, yeah.
Speaker 2:How about we find this is what we should do? Jay, go find a sick ass course, like one that's private, one that we'll never get to play, and go fucking do it there have a couple connections up there and that way if we do make it bonus, if we don't, we say we get to knock out a top 100 course, or something like in la or san diego or something, yeah I'm sure there's some somewhere yeah, we should do it telling you into that, telling you you need to do it because it's at, it's at troon this
Speaker 1:year, the mid-am. We're talking about the qualifying to get into the mid-am. So, uh, the one in for nevada is at hidden valley up in the reno area and uh, if you, you know, uh, metal, you get to go to the mid-am which is in troon. So I don't know the other course, because they always play two courses. They play one private, one public, um, for the mid-am and uh, so I don't know what the other course, probably greyhawk, I'm assuming, um, because it hosts a lot of event out there, uh, but you know you don't have to go far.
Speaker 1:I mean reno, you know, and and and phoenix, not not that far where you know. When I went with andrew, we had to go to nantucket, which is not a short flight.
Speaker 3:True Country Club and True North.
Speaker 1:Oh, there you go. That'd be fun. Yeah, it would be fun, and it would be hot and you'd have an advantage because you're used to the heat. So I'm telling you, you guys, especially Dan no disrespect to you, jeremy, but dan, I'm on a heater heater, right now like uh, I will say this my heater got shut off in michigan oh no what happened? Oh yeah we didn't even talk about how well, you played or forgot to pay the bill.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, like I don't know man, like I just hit some. I played some awful golf in michigan, awful um, I mean I I come, I got off the t somewhat decent, but everything else was just poop. So that heater, that heater might be, that heater might be out, it was just traveling.
Speaker 3:I'm sure now that you're back home you'll tear it up again but was that?
Speaker 1:was that sea level golf out? There are you at elevation.
Speaker 2:No, I think we're. I don't know. We were right on the lake, but I don't know what the elevation is in Michigan.
Speaker 1:It's a lake too, and it's a little high. Well, yeah, that's true, that's true. There's lakes in the mountains. You dumbass. There's a little elevation like 577 feet marginally elevated, basically sea level, putting grips like Zach Blair to scream I'm in a dark place, putting right now and I'm willing to try anything that's how Tony Finau is.
Speaker 3:I don't know if something's going on in Utah, but did you see him hit that putt with one?
Speaker 4:hand One hand.
Speaker 1:And it was probably the best putting stroke he's made in five years.
Speaker 3:He's been fighting that grip for years. It's hard to watch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not an easy thing to do. No, but he should seriously contact Goodwood putters because they make fantastic sticks and I've been man since, since Tim Float and I had a conversation about putting set up and rhythm and tempo and me stopping my putting stroke from going, you know, four feet past the ball at impact. Uh, in conjunction with a new putter. I am going to give it some credit because it's amazing. Uh, I have been on a heater with flat stick, so I am, I am incredibly excited about that. This is I can't hit a blade putter to save my life. It's not for everybody. Some people like it, some people hate it. Love them, but they don't love me. That's that screams golf. That screams golf.
Speaker 1:Uh, charlie wood was in the? Uh, in the news. He won a prestigious junior golfing tournament to get his first win. Uh, so congrats to him for that. That happened last week. Uh, what's the putter coach you said? Uh, tim flote, you probably know him agreeing. Well, maybe in in the works. Uh, so he just helped me with some setup stuff. I've also been working with uh, well, not working with, but taking some advice from preston combs, who he's on instagram as well an amazing putting.
Speaker 1:All he does is work with putting so uh with tim's uh, advice and assistance and some of the stuff that, uh, I have learned from preston. Yeah, putting is starting starting to be really really good. I beat julian and julian's a really good putter and I I beat him at on the sienna green and I was like I told. I said I'm sorry, julian, I'm talking shit about this because you know it does this doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 1:So uh yeah, so I'm very happy with how the plastic is rolling right now. All right, then some feller named Scotty Scheffler did something over the weekend Went back-to-back at Memorial at Jack's Place Really loves the milkshakes out there and got himself another W. It was his third win of the season. It was his 16th win overall with three majors. He is on a heater. It's hilarious every time he wins. I keep seeing the Phil Mickelson tweet about doubtful Scottie will win before the Ryder Cup. Well, I don't see Scottie winning before the Ryder Cup. Well, he's bested that three times now. So congrats, phil, for poking the bear. Sometimes you don't poke the bear, but I'm kind of glad he did because it's fun watching him play golf right now. That is an incredibly tough course. It was crazy conditions with the weather, but wow, dude's on a heater here. Oh, do you? Let's see. You guys can probably. Well, don't look at the bottom of the screen if you can see it. I was curious if you guys could name when his first win was 2021?.
Speaker 1:Scotty Scheffler's first, first pg. Scotty sheffler's first pga tour win.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like no, I'm guessing 2021, because I think he's won 15 since 22 uh, phoenix open was his first win in 22, every 13th 22, uh.
Speaker 1:Then he won the Arnold Palmer. I can bring it up now that I showed you that the Arnold Palmer WGC match, play the Masters, another Phoenix Open players, another Palmer, other players Masters, rbc, heritage, memorial, travelers Tour Championship, byron, nelson PGA Championship and and another memorial. So he's getting those double wins and that's something tiger used to do. A lot was multiple wins at one course, like you, know tori and firestone.
Speaker 1:He used to just dominate. So, uh, you know, patrick cantley was tearing up the memorial and johnm was really good at the Memorial. So once those players find that spot, man, it's good he is tearing up. And then I chat GBT. You can do some amazing things on chat GBT. So I had it put together his margin of victories and what his average margin of victory is in his wins. He averages 3.5 is what it comes out to. But here on the screen for those listening, I have a list of his wins and the margin. He won those by.
Speaker 1:So the Phoenix Open he beat Patrick Cantley in a playoff. Arnold Palmer he won by one stroke. Match play he won four and three. In the final Masters he won by three. Phoenix Open he won by one stroke. Match play he won four and three. In the final Masters he won by three. Phoenix Open he won by two Players he won by five. Arnold Palmer he won by five. Players. Championship he won by one. Masters by four. Heritage by three. Memorial by one. Travelers in the playoff beat Tom Kim Tour Championship four Eight strokes at the Byron Nelson five strokes at the PGA and four strokes at the Memorial. So it was nine for nine, having a 54-hole lead. Wow.
Speaker 1:Winners win, winners win. I think that's all.
Speaker 1:I got. Oh, I do. Now, this is a Callaway plug for anybody questioning me. This is a callaway plug. You're about to hear a plug for a callaway product. Uh, the tour authentic glove from callaway. I had not played this because I have a bunch of wilson gloves that I'm still going through, uh. But I was uh chatting with my boss and I said, hey, I've heard these are really good. Uh, he gave me one to try out and, no lie, probably the best glove I've ever put on my hand. It uh, it fits my hand perfectly. Now, it's not saying it's going to fit your hand perfectly, but it fits my hand perfect, uh-oh uh-oh, oh shit hang on.
Speaker 3:Oh see you later, joe there it is grass clippings what's up, guys?
Speaker 1:let's, uh, let's get, let's get joe big here. Yeah, we can hear you, yeah can I flip my camera around? Turn it sideways.
Speaker 4:There you go, there we go I don't know if I get flipping around but yeah, you're good start on the back um what is this? 15 my brother's playing for the first time first time playing golf. Yeah, first time playing golf. Yeah, we've gone to the driving range before, but it's cool man, it is pretty. It's lit up very well yeah, is it busy yeah yeah, yeah, there's a lot of people up in here man lots playing with, uh, a dude that's been abandoned.
Speaker 1:So you know you love that there's a few people out there like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, how's the pod going?
Speaker 1:It's going good. Instagram's not working tonight, so that's awesome, oh awesome. We're just on Facebook and YouTube. I have no idea what's going on on Facebook, so we haven't got any erroneous comments, sweet.
Speaker 4:How are you?
Speaker 1:playing.
Speaker 4:Playing all right. Yeah, playing all right. Hitting the irons pretty well. Greens are a little slow, slower than they look a little Velcro-y. It's very cool, though. Unfortunately, on Tuesdays you only get to play like nine holes instead of the 10 and the 18. So we started on the back, but it's cool. It's lit up very well, like I said. Like obviously we have cloud nine angel park, but it's not lit like this, like there's no issues with lighting out here. It's pretty sweet that's cool.
Speaker 1:We need more of this, and we need more of this in vegas, like yes, now like now. Who said that's the most sober he's been on the show in weeks all right, sorry. Joe, come back if you can. Oh there, he is all right, he's back all right?
Speaker 4:yeah, I just wanted to pop in and say hi have fun.
Speaker 1:Uh, how's the putter? Did you bring your clubs? Yeah?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, I brought my clubs all right but don't make a hole in one it's on the list all right, make sure you're recording yeah, later, later, guys, peace.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's too much. Good for him. I'm glad he's doing that. Need a little break. Get away, so good for him. You have'm glad he's doing that. He needed a little break. Get away, so good for him. You have said nothing wrong, mr Cliff. Oh, all right, and then let's see. Oh, one last tidbit, and then we'll get the hell out of here. There is a I got this referred to from Dr freeman, the guy who fixed my, my rib. Freeman, little shout out after daniel freeman. Uh, there's a company called crazy yoga on, uh, amazon, uh, crz yoga.
Speaker 1:If you like lululemon stuff, if you're a fan of Lululemon clothes I mean, it's almost an identical copy at a fraction of the price. Picked up a pair of the shorts. I have a pair of Lululemon shorts that I found on clearance at Revere one night. You cannot tell the difference. Remarkable, remarkable resemblance. Probably come from the same factory. Very, very, very, very affordable. If you like some nice, high quality apparel for golf, they have pants and shorts and shirts and they're labeled golf items and wow, uh, very impressed. So, uh, helping, helping you out with that.
Speaker 3:What are they called?
Speaker 2:again. All I'm saying is sports bras.
Speaker 1:You got to go to the store and then filter it. It's Crazy Yoga C-R-Z Yoga. I promise it's in there, dan. I promise it's in there, it's in there and incredibly affordable for what you're getting. We're talking clearance rack discount that you get at the golf stores like for brand new, perfect stuff. So please take advantage of that. Oh, what'd you find. What'd you find? Oh, nice, nice bun, as long as matt is showing off that booty with some 54 shorts, and of course, we're all happy not that type of lululemon they make golf clothes.
Speaker 1:You know, minwoo lee wears lululemon so they have some really, really, really good golf products. They have the split pockets so you can have your ball marker and your divot tool and ball marker in the same pocket and not go clinging, clinging, clinging. So that's a problem for some of us. All right, that's it, that's all we got.
Speaker 1:I apologize to everybody that instagram didn't work tonight. I don't know what's going on, uh, there is some technical issues, uh, so hopefully we have that remedied next week, but the episode will be out tomorrow on, uh wherever you get your podcast. Uh, thank you for everybody that is tuned in. Thank you, the golf stop for being a supporter and sponsor of the show. Thank you, words golf. Uh, thank you, las vegas golf superstore. Thank you for everybody that is tuned in. Thank you to golf stop for being a supporter and sponsor of the show. Thank you, words golf. Uh, thank you, las Vegas golf superstore. Thank you, calloway. Thank you, everybody that is uh supporting the show.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got one last thing to show. Look, this was. I got a couple of things. This is the, the VGN major trophy. Uh, the the have a diamond, the spades will have a spade. Uh, so that is the the trophy for the next coming up tournament on the 22nd this month. We got two spots left, so if you guys want to get in it because I don't think anybody else is going to join got till the 13th. Send me a message, come out and play with us, and then I also want to give some love to a new company that's coming out of Michigan, dan, where you just were. This is Albatross Ferals. We love BB&F Co, but they have had really no competition whatsoever for years. So the gentleman from Albatross sent me some ferals. They are really good, really good. I got to put them on some clubs to make sure they're really good, but just by holding them in my hands and looking at the detail in them, he's doing a bang-up job. So give them a follow. Albatross Farrells and yeah that's all I had.
Speaker 1:So if you guys don't have anything, you guys got anything else. No, no.
Speaker 4:All right, everybody Again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Uh, we tried I tried put it out there to try and get us up to uh, 500 subscribers on youtube. Let's see if we had any success for that. I think we were at 461, 469, hey, 474. So, no, no goodies to anybody, but thank you for the five people that added us to your collection of people that you subscribe to. Um, we appreciate that. Thank you very much. Uh, we'll be back next week. Uh, hopefully, everybody, everybody should be here next week, right everybody got yeah, yeah, uh be here all right.
Speaker 1:So again everybody, thank you so much for tuning in Right, yeah, yeah, all right. So again everybody, thank you so much for tuning in and we'll be back next week with another show. Have a great week.
Speaker 2:Later. Thank you.
