The Chasing Daylight Podcast
Four amateur golfers in Las Vegas talk weekly about the game. This show is for the obsessed golf fan who likes to nerd out on the game's different topics. Look for interviews from insiders within the industry and banter from their opinions on golf's current state. And discussions about headline topics like the Major tournaments and the hot new clubs hitting the shelves. Real talk from real people who play the game.
The Chasing Daylight Podcast
334: Tradition Golf founder Matt Marino talks top courses, WhatNot, and his $1000 match
Matt Marino takes us on an unforgettable journey through his remarkable golf career, from impulsively moving to Las Vegas as a young caddie to opening Tiger Woods' first American golf course, Blue Jack National.
With candid charm, Matt shares how a simple business card and the bold declaration "I'm going to be your first head golf professional" led to his role launching Tiger's groundbreaking course. His insights into course design reveal why difficulty shouldn't be the primary measure of greatness – a perspective gained from playing many of America's top-ranked venues.
The conversation shifts to Matt's latest venture with Tradition Golf and his unexpected success on the Whatnot platform, where his first impromptu livestream generated $6,500 in sales. This new frontier of digital golf commerce represents what Matt believes is just the beginning of a revolutionary change in how golfers buy, sell, and connect.
We get exclusive details about Matt's upcoming $1,000 match against fellow Whatnot seller Off Tour Truck on July 21st, which has evolved into a charitable event supporting Texas flood victims. This match exemplifies how digital platforms are creating new ways to blend competition, community, and commerce in the golf world.
Whether you're fascinated by course architecture, curious about digital golf commerce, or simply enjoy authentic conversations about the game's evolution, Matt's perspective offers fresh insights on where golf has been and where it's heading. His philosophy that "you always need something to look forward to" perfectly captures why golf trips, relationships, and new ventures keep the game eternally engaging.
Join us for this wide-ranging conversation that touches on everything from Matt's top course recommendations (Oakmont and Maidstone make his list) to why he believes Sand Valley might be the ultimate golf destination. His honesty, humor, and passion for the game make this episode an essential listen for anyone who loves golf's past while embracing its future.
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Speaker 3:It's important stuff it's, it's super duper important. It's not bs guys, not bs hi guys, hi guys very important okay, so you guys are all fucking dope you could see.
Speaker 1:Uh, jeremy's not here. He will be here shortly, and in jeremy's stead right now is the guest we have this week uh, mr matt marino. How are you doing this evening, sir? Doing great guys. Thank you for having me. Oh, thank you for being on now. Now, I don't know the history between you and Dan, so let's start with how you guys know each other, and then we'll get into a little bit about you and what your golf life has been all about. Awesome.
Speaker 2:Do you want to tell the histories, Dan, or do you want me to tell the history?
Speaker 4:Well, we can leave some stories out. We can leave the stories out, good idea Good idea leave some stories out.
Speaker 2:Good idea? Uh, no. So I met dan through a mutual friend back in the year of, uh, 2002. Uh, yeah, it would have been 2002, early august, and dan was living in vegas. I was, I was going to school in la, I was a freshman in college and, uh, we met a good mutual friend, mike Mendoza.
Speaker 2:And shout out to Mike Mendoza, head pro at shadow Ridge golf course in California. And at the end of my freshman year, after playing a year of college golf, my buddy Mike said hey, remember my boy Dan we played golf with. He's caddying out of golf course out in Vegas. It just opened and it's like we should move out there and go get it. You should leave college and we should go caddy for for a living. So, uh, I go home, I drive from la back to colorado springs, I pull in the driveway and I see my parents and I'm like, yeah, I think I'm gonna take a year off of school. Um, they're like, oh, what are you gonna do? Move to las vegas and I'm gonna caddy. That's amazing, don't worry, when your college was only, you know, a 35 000 a year college, no scholarship or whatever. And my mom's like awesome, good luck, you're on your own.
Speaker 2:So I called dan, mike, and mike was already there. Dan was already there, uh, with a couple buddies, buddies and I called him and I said, hey, I'm coming, I'll be there, I'll be there August 15th. So I'd spent the summer at home and I said I'll be there August 15th. So I drove there. I have no job, I have no place to live. Dan's caddying and Dan gets me an interview with Joeing. I go into the caddy barn, I got an interview, um, and joe basically hires me on the spot. He's like great. And so I was like, hey, cool, can I borrow a golf cart and run out on the golf course and like tell dan and mike that like I got hired yeah, so I drive out there and I remember what hole it was on.
Speaker 2:I drive up to dan on and I was like dan, I got hired, he goes. Great, go find us a place to live. I've never been to Vegas before. I've never been to Vegas and Summerlin was kind of like expanded it's like 2002.
Speaker 3:So like.
Speaker 2:Flamingo wasn't finished right, like it ended at the Roadrunner basically you know, 215 wasn't done. They just built all those like Saharan Town Center. They just built all those new apartment complexes. Red Rock wasn't there. Yeah, I actually drove by our apartment original apartment complex when I was there just recently, but it's funny, but anyway. So like Town Center, like I drove down the street from Bears Best, I hop on Town Center. I literally pull into the first apartment complex that's on the right. It's a brand new, brand new apartment complex.
Speaker 2:I walk in like he literally has it open for like a couple of weeks. I was like, do you have any apartments to rent? And the lady's like yeah, let me tell you one.
Speaker 2:So we go, I'm brand new three bedroom Nobody lived in it Three bedroom apartment and, um, we didn't have anything. And I was the youngest right, dance, dance, dance. A little older than me, mike's, a little older than me, I was, I was, I was even 21, I was, uh, I guess I was 20, um, and uh, yeah. And then the caddyshack. We lived that caddyshack life for for years just looping in vegas, being boys playing golf chase, you know, just doing, doing chasing girls that was at Bears Best.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was right after Bears Best opened?
Speaker 3:Were you there the day the dead body was found in the parking lot? Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, In the yellow Humvee.
Speaker 2:I think Dan found it actually.
Speaker 4:In the yellow Humvee.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Dan found it, I did. Yep, it was so funny because you know you think back at like time and you know we all pay your mortgages and rent or whatever. Now right, but like vegas was so cheap. Then you know our first apartment, three bedrooms, brand new, on town center drive.
Speaker 2:We paid twelve hundred dollars a month I was gonna say twelve hundred too and I was telling the story today, I was like I was so irresponsible as a 20 year old like I went. That's. We had four guys there. I think we had one guy living on the couch. Jj was living on the couch. We each had our own I think for some reason they gave me the master bedroom. I think maybe I had to pay a little bit more rent.
Speaker 1:But like this is how irresponsible.
Speaker 2:We were printing money like we were making good money back in the day and, uh, it's how irresponsible. I think my rent was like 230 bucks or 330 bucks. Like there's one month where we gambled so much and and gambled so much on the golf course like I couldn't make rent and I had to like, damn, can I borrow 230 to pay her pay rent? I mean, just have fun. We were irresponsible young guys having a great time caddying, playing golf, you know, doing whatever that. And then the rest is history. Right, we've been for 23 years, 24 years now, I guess. So that's awesome.
Speaker 1:That's what's golf man bringing people together crazy, bro.
Speaker 3:Golf brings so many people together and that's what's so weird. Like we've been friends with dan for since we threw that event at. Uh pi, legends never die and we all heard this story of this mythical matt guy. Right like we show up to purcell and dan's like let me call my buddy matt. And then, oh, you guys are good, now go ahead and go, you know, and it's just like, and then like I will get into that, but then I rated you not even knowing, and then it like sparks relationships. Like golf is incredible. But like dan has told us a ton of stories and we, we just we didn't know you. So how did how did your life, how did how did it evolve into where you've come from and where you are now?
Speaker 2:sure, yeah, um, man, just I guess grinding, like I mean we catch, we caddy in vegas for a couple years and then I went back and played for another year of junior college golf out in Southern California and I was like man, this school's just not for me. So I went back and caddied. We moved back in with Dan and Mike. We rented a house, we had a five-bedroom house over by TPC Summerlin, caddied for a couple of years and you felt like you could do it forever. That was right about the time, um, and we were all like debating, like, are we going to jump to the wind? Are we going to leave bears I can't remember if bears have been sold or whatever and, um, I don't know, man, it was hot in vegas.
Speaker 2:So I remember one year I went home for the summer, um, back to colorado to see my folks and I was going to loop. So I got a looping job out at castle pines uh, golf course, which is the hardest run for a four caddy of all times great, great workout. I met this guy. That's career, right, this, okay, this career caddy named chunk, uh, chunk. So everybody had a caddy nick. If you're a caddy and you didn't have a nickname. Um, you were a real caddy, right? So I met chunk, we're gonna, like I mentioned he's like, um, hey, he goes, I gotta, I gotta loop at this place called columbine country club. Um, tomorrow, like, you want to come loop loop with me? And I was like, yeah, sure, like why no? I was like I'm from colorado, grew up in colorado, uh, colorado springs. I mean, I played everywhere in colorado at this point, uh, but I never played columbine. They're gonna call mine and dude, host the 1967 pj championship walk in the park. In comparison to uh, and just a classic, just one of my favorite golf courses in the country. We grabbed two bags each and we go, we go. It was leisurely walk. The call my country was like, so easy. I was like I'm never, I'm not leaving. So I ended up.
Speaker 2:I was caddying for the president of the club that day. His name is Tom Alley and he goes. Dana Lupe goes. Man, would you be interested in being our caddy master here? I'm like that's a death sentence, right, because caddies we make good cash and caddy masters you don't make anything, right? You know the caddies go out and make good money and you're just making a salary. Um, I was like, yeah sure. So it was a w.
Speaker 2:It was, uh, they wanted to start a western golf association chick evans caddy program there. Uh, which I grew up in one at the broadmoor hotel and caddy was a big part of my life. I started counting when I was 12 years old and caddy was a big part of my life. I started caddy when I was 12 years old and caddy golf through school and I had to, you know, go caddy to make money to play, you know, junior golf tournaments because my parents, just you know they made me earn it right and uh, so we started this caddy program, ended up, you know, I remember our first year we did like 120 loops in the caddy program training a bunch of 12 and 13 year old kids how to carry bags and 15 year old kids. And I think the next year that was our first summer the next summer we did 2,700 loops. We got our first caddy Evan's scholarship to University of Colorado, cu Boulder, and that caddy program now is awesome and sustainable and I was there for seven years.
Speaker 2:Eventually, after the first year I moved into the golf shop and they gave me an opportunity to become an assistant pro. The general manager said I'll pay for your PGA schooling if you'll do it so like a degenerate golf pro. I didn't do anything for the first two years past my PAT, you know, went out and shot a good round, shot past my PAT and then didn't do my book work and I was about to get suspended from the PGA and the head pro just the apprentice program. Cause if you don't do anything for two years you book work, you get suspended. So the head pro got fired. I wasn't even. I was basically about to be kicked out of the apprentice program.
Speaker 2:A new pro came in. His name was Sean Strom and he came in from Escondido in Texas and he walks in the shop, he fires the other three assistants like day one guys I'd worked with for like a couple of years and he looks me in the eye and he goes you have one week to complete level one. Usually level one takes you like two years. So he said I'm going to pay you to sit in the boardroom and do your book work until you're done. So I sat in that boardroom for 18 hours a day typing my level one, and that was back in the day where you had to type it up on a computer, print it out, put it in the binder of death and then ship this thing off to the pj for grading um and your whole life in a binder. And so I. I did that. I went down, I sent it in, I got, went down to the level one seminar passed, passed there. Uh, I got back and he's like congratulations, you passed level one.
Speaker 2:You guys, you've got two weeks to do level two oh my god so, geez, yeah, and I was, and, and sean, I mean I like thank a lot of my career to sean, because sometimes you just need somebody to kick you in the butt and be like you know, this is what you're capable of doing right, so, um, so yeah, so knock that out. You know, obviously I hold you a little bit in between, but I think we in the in the end, from like when I really started doing the books work to the testing, I think I did the whole program. I can't remember if it was like 11 or 18 months it was pretty quick.
Speaker 2:Uh got elected to pga membership and then my my career just kind of kept going. So I was at Columbine for uh for seven years. Uh, I went to the club at Pradera as the first assistant, which is in Parker, colorado. Uh, for a year. And then one day I was on a member trip in arizona and my phone rang and it was my old boss, sean, and he said dauphinsterwald jr is going to call you and offer you a job at colonial in five minutes. And so, whatever you do I don't know where you are, but you say yes- yes, I've never been to texas before, um, and I was like okay, that's weird.
Speaker 2:Five minutes later I get a call from a fort worth number and it's dauphinsterwald and and the legend of dow dow's been at colonial for he's now the pro emeritus at colonial but dow at the time was at colonial for 30 years. His father, dow senior, obviously won the 57 pga 40. That would be the lanark uh two-time rider cup captain um, you know obviously, hall of famer, um, and dow goes. He has a really funny voice in this really southern so I'll try to do the best of you. Like hey, I heard you're the best that there is in the business and you come down here and and and help me run the show here. What do you say?
Speaker 2:And I'm like, well, I was like I'll be there tomorrow, so I went down, flew down to colonial uh and uh got hired on the spot. Um, two weeks of. I went back my wife was teaching with my ex-wife now but uh, she was teaching. I said, hey, we're moving to fort worth. Um, she said well, I gotta finish the year. So I moved out. I lived it. I moved with alicia singer who is the director of retail. She just retired from colonial um after tournament this year. She's been there for a long time. I didn't have any place to live. I lived with her for about a month, kind of got my feet wet.
Speaker 2:I was at colonial for three years, three tournaments. It was awesome, great place, obviously one of my favorite golf courses. And then I was at a pga teaching summit and I ran into a guy. I heard they were building tiger woods's first golf course in the country and it was going to be in houston. And uh, there was a guy and it was 100 golf pros at a teaching summit and there was a guy sitting at the front right table, uh, and he was dressed and he had a button, white, button-up shirt and dan's met this guy.
Speaker 2:So this is kind of funny, he got a white button-up shirt and a pink sweater around his shoulders and on the butt. On the sleeve of his cuff, he had bluejack national logo and the other one he had lantern asset management and he was pretty engaging. During he was engaged answering questions, I was, you know, I'm and um. At the end of the seminar I walked up to him and I said hey, you know, you're awesome, you were great today. He's older guy. Uh, so you were awesome today, like like um. And he goes oh, you did really good too. And I said, uh, so what do you? I saw your blue Jack logo. As I heard about blue Jack, I heard there, you know tigers building, are you the head, are you the head pro there, or the gm? He goes, oh, I'm the developer. And I'm like, oh, awesome. And I reached in my back pocket. I swear to god, this is the xr and he'll mr mike abbott, um, mr a, as everybody calls him, mr a, he'll tell the story the exact same way.
Speaker 2:I reached in my back pocket and I handed him my business card. I looked him in the eye and I said I'm gonna be your first head golf professional and I walked away baller move, baller move, I don't know why I'm not me, that's not me, but like shoot your shot, I guess, when you have a chance, yeah you felt it, bro, it was, yeah, that soul, bro, the soul of golf, right there just six months later six months later and seven interviews, uh, I got hired as the as the head golf professional at blue jack national and got to open up uh, tiger's first golf course in the country.
Speaker 2:So it was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1:Amazing, that's amazing yeah, so all right real quick, real quick. I gotta know what were you, what were you going to school for that you never went back for?
Speaker 2:oh, golf and girls and beer, I don't know uh, um, I mean, I've got some, you know, marketing, sales, uh, communications, whatever the athlete I guess does, whatever the easiest route. I wasn't the best student, uh, I didn't ever take school seriously, to be totally honest, um, but I I did have to take it seriously for one year when I transferred to citrus. Uh, because I basically failed out of everything at whittier before I left. Uh, when I went to be eligible yeah, whittier, whittier college.
Speaker 2:When I went to whittittier or I went to transfer to Citrus, I said well, let's see what you have to do to be eligible for golf. And so the golf coach takes me into the admissions office. He wants to be on the golf team here. What does he have to do? And the lady said he has to take 21 units and he has to get a 3.9 or better to be eligible for the golf season.
Speaker 2:I had never been like over a 3.0 student, so uh, yeah Well, because my GPA was so low from you know my previous, you know schooling. So for the first time in my life I ever tried in school. I sat in the front row of every class. I never left school without my homework done. I studied for every test and I got a four oh and uh in that first semester and I got eligible for golf and I played on the golf team with our boy, kyle Mendoza. So good times. But you never know what you can do until somebody challenges you Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Wow, oh and I'm no longer a Blue Jack?
Speaker 1:obviously no you're not a Blue Jack. So what is your tradition? Golf. What is what you're doing now? All about oh gosh, uh, and not, not, whatnot. Yet we'll get into that, okay, oh well, well okay, yeah, well, so, uh, the tradition is uh.
Speaker 2:So I work in oil and gas now, um, I'm the the VP of sales and marketing for, uh, uh, a pipeline logistics company here in Houston, and, uh, there were some big industry golf tournaments, um, and uh, so I decided to start my own and it was called the tradition Um, and so I basically started a really high end member guest for oil and gas, um, executives, um it mostly in the pipeline space, so, um, mainline contractors that build big pipelines, um, and then they would invite their best clients, so, from the gas company side, um, and I would be gonna throw this incredible four-day party, uh, at a resort.
Speaker 2:I would buy out an entire resort, uh, every room, and everybody's gonna bring their spouse, and we're gonna have four different dinners and we're gonna, we're gonna have this epic golf tournament with great swag, um, and so we did that. Uh, we just hosted our fourth for our fourth year, um, next year will be our fifth anniversary and, um, I don't want to say oh, because there's some great events in the industry, but this isn't like a charity scramble, this isn isn't a one day thing, this is a four day bonanza, and so that's where the tradition came from and the tradition off is something new and exciting that we're we're getting ready to launch.
Speaker 1:How running those events? How how much time does that consume out of your like real job?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have a really nice boss, so obviously he's a, he's a major sponsor of our event. Uh, the company I work for, um, uh, so he's obviously our biggest sponsor. He's a great guy, um. But yeah, I mean, basically when I start planning, you know we'll go, we'll send out invoicing and do some initial planning. You know, october, november, invoices hit in December and then basically from January, so our event's always the first week of May. So from January to May I spend a lot of time weekly working on the tradition, ordering products, doing menus, working with the resort. Shout out, I guess can I say the name of the resort. Are you guys like okay with that? Absolutely, can I say the name of the resort he goes like?
Speaker 4:okay.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, we do it at Purcell farms in Alabama, which I know you guys have been to. God, I love that place. We stumbled upon it. But the GM, my group, my hope, my group host there, ryan Smith, she's awesome. Michael, the GM there, the whole team at Purcell farms, when I, when I called them and told them I wanted to buy the resort out for four days, they basically they basically hung up on me um, there's no one right, and I was like, yeah, no, for real. Like, uh, you know, we were like what does it cost? Like every room four days, well, the whole golf course, whatever. And then we kind of want to write menus.
Speaker 3:Uh, they didn't quick, quick side question. So you did that right, and I'm trying to think of timelines. Right, like four or five years ago, is when Purcell started actually blowing up. Am I correct in that thinking? Do you guys agree? I think it gained a lot of notoriety Right.
Speaker 4:Potentially you might have helped Especially with the YouTube golf.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, like you potentially helped purcell blow up. Also one of the greatest logos I've ever played.
Speaker 2:I love that fucking logo cool logo the golf the cat, the golfing cow with the tie.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, but I think I, I think maybe my you may have had something to do with that. Potentially, I don't don't know, I'm just thinking Great golf course. You didn't build it, but you know Just the story of that place.
Speaker 2:Right, you guys know. I mean, when you guys were down there did you guys get into the history of that place a little bit. Yeah, how much rock.
Speaker 1:they moved out of there and what it was?
Speaker 4:The different strains of grass that they were trying to grow out there and the fertilizers and all that stuff yeah.
Speaker 1:Maybe we got videos on the tree swing and tires.
Speaker 2:Did you go swing on the tire swing?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I really want them to like redo that, like make it like really awesome, because it's kind of tucked away there, you know left of left of seven, but what a cool, it's a cool, such a cool feature there what's your favorite what's your favorite hole at purcell farms?
Speaker 4:fuck me, it was uh 16 or 17. The par 3 over the water. Par 3 over the water, yeah yeah, I love that 17.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was my favorite. I would say that that was my favorite.
Speaker 1:I like the first hole too. I mean it's subtle but it's a really good like. Welcome to the forum.
Speaker 3:I do think. The opening, what is it like? Five holes, what's the hole after the drop, the big drop? Is that four or five, that's six, okay. The par five, the par five that goes down into the left, yeah, yeah, that whole opening to that part five is fantastic yeah I'd love to take you guys.
Speaker 2:We should all go there together because I would love to take you to some of the, like the secret places they're like did you guys stay no, no, we're gonna say we're gonna get a cottage, we'll get a cottage, we'll stay there. We'll get a cottage on 18 or we'll get the Parker lodge on 17, the big house, and we'll go down and stay and play and we'll take you up.
Speaker 2:You got to go to secret place. Like secret place there is the highest point in Alabama and you can take a, we'll take, we'll get a buggy, we'll get one of the UTVs's cool they have, like, you know, they do some, they do some stuff. They got a big cross up there. Um, you know, the purcell family is super religious and they have a really great, um, you know, attachment to the, to the church there. But, man, you get up on top of a secret place and you're like alabama, you're, yeah, everything you can see forever.
Speaker 2:And it's really cool like we went up there, uh, one morning just this year for at our event. Just you know, my wife and I and um and another couple, and it's just like, if you just take like 10 minutes, like it's, I'm not a very religious person, but it's, it was pretty cool, it was a pretty cool spot.
Speaker 1:So hey, one second rob.
Speaker 4:Rob had a question about colonial joe hang on.
Speaker 1:He says uh colonial question. Do you know brian shorston? Played junior golf against him in high school back in Ohio in the late 1990s. I know he's been at Colonial for years.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So Brian and I worked at Colonial together. He was our director of instruction. He's a great, he's a stick. By the way, he played for Akron. He was an Akron zip.
Speaker 2:So I have a couple of nicknames for Brian Sh shorston. So I call him I. I called him jersey by the shore, but I really called him paper bag, because every time he would go and play golf he had the sickest short game and I told him one day I was like dude, you could get it up and down from a wet paper bag, like you were. I always used to call it paper um and now brian um, dow um. When they when dow, when they moved down to the pro emeritus job, they made brian Brian the head golf professional or director of golf at Colonial. And man could have picked a better job guy for the for the job Two beautiful young daughters. He's been going through some health stuff, but man, I'll tell you he's just one of the classiest dudes around. Love that guy. I don't think I've ever heard anything Anybody say a bad thing about him. He's really good.
Speaker 3:Shout out Ohio boys, ohio boys.
Speaker 2:Are you guys all born and raised in Vegas.
Speaker 3:I know Dan Me and Matt are.
Speaker 2:You guys are both born and raised, never left.
Speaker 3:I left for one year I went to school in Orlando for audio engineering. I'm a one year. I went to school in Orlando for audio engineering.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm a military brat, so we did three years in Germany, but our home base was still Vegas.
Speaker 2:Nellis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Good point and Jeremy's a Utah boy.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm from Utah. I've been here for just south of Salt Lake.
Speaker 2:What town?
Speaker 5:American Fork. It's like north Utah County. Yeah, okay cool. I've been here for like five years, five and a half years, awesome he's female territory. Zach Blair. Yeah, jimmy Walker, yep, jimmy Walker played with him.
Speaker 2:He loves Jimmy Walker. You look like Jimmy Walker. I played with him. A loves Jimmy Walker. You look like Jimmy Walker.
Speaker 5:I played with him a couple times in the that's cool.
Speaker 2:Dano's again. Covina boy, you know it, bishop of Vermont what's up?
Speaker 3:Thumper, how you living brother. That's Thumper. Huh, that's Thumper, how you living brother. I give a shout out to the Whatnot homie. That's thumper. Huh, that's thumper. Right there, shut up, that dude's everywhere.
Speaker 1:I thought I was everywhere that dude's everywhere.
Speaker 4:Much love to the.
Speaker 1:Whatnot community?
Speaker 4:Joe went on live a little bit.
Speaker 1:Went on Whatnot before the show started and we added like 10 subscribers. Thank you, guys for being here.
Speaker 3:Hopefully you stick around. Awesome, we also got birdie in a can too. Shut up, birdie in a can. Let's well, you change your name. I can't remember your name, but shut up, kevin. Was that labubu? That's labubu, but I'm trying to, I'm trying to get rid of that, but wait, that was the whole that was the whole dj night that I'm trying to. I'm trying to rid the homie kevin of the lububu tag because I feel like it's a little degrading. But it was a whole dj night and sorry to bring it up.
Speaker 3:Don't get suspended, joe so, uh, no, I won't um the for us you were talking about purcell and like for me being like you were talking about me and Matt being raised in Vegas, right, like that was my first trip to the south, south, south, right. So we played Lake Reynolds, we won a tournament, uh, through via five iron golf, um, and we we played Lake Reynolds for two days. Then we went up to Macklemore and then we stopped by Sweetens Cove and we all played sick golf at Sweetens Cove. Shit. Yeah, inside.
Speaker 4:We were on the putting green for two and a half hours. No no, we were out playing, of course.
Speaker 3:If you want to know it, you go back in the archives, you can hear it anyway. And then we went down to purcell and, uh, drive, driving into purcell. I mean I feel like I remember this moment vividly. I was like looking at matt, like the fuck is this like? Where are we going? This is crazy, you know being from vegas fucking cow.
Speaker 4:Right there, dude, I've never had a cow in my life my wife's from northeast alabama.
Speaker 1:So I was like I'm like you're in for a treat because alabama is beautiful it's so underrated for how much beauty there is there. But yeah, joe was uh out of his I was pretty shocked.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's what I love about golf too. Like, just to say real quick, like I, I watched TV, I sat on my couch, I used to be a skateboarder, I'd go around town skateboard. But like golf has taken me into different situations, like I've seen more of the country in my life because of golf, that's it. I mean like I would have never traveled to uh, what is that? That's southeast alabama. I never would have went to southeast alabama in my life, but golf brought me there and golf brings you to these special places that you'll never experience and that's that's why I love it.
Speaker 4:But um and then we what?
Speaker 2:special. Yeah, that last drive, that last part of that drive in from birmingham, like when you're like 10 minutes out from bur, from purcell farms, and you're driving through all the trailers, like the trailer parks, they're like there ain't no way there's a good golf course around here yeah, yeah, when you see a dollar, yeah when.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we did. When you see a dollar general every 20 minutes and a dollar general in a church in a church and a church yeah, you know, generals are everywhere, everywhere, everywhere that's a. That's a talk about a billion dollar company, right, holy moly, you know you're in vegas you're, you're, you're in vegas and you're looking how's dollar general work that much? And then you go take a trip down there. You're like, oh, I get it I get it now.
Speaker 1:They're everywhere, seriously they're around like fucking starbucks and hey, matt, have you played cider ridge in alabama? Have I played where cider ridge in?
Speaker 2:alabama, oh, where's that it's.
Speaker 1:It's uh oxford.
Speaker 2:It's kind of near uh talladega oh, okay, uh, oh, so that sounds like robert jones trail area.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay is it a public golf course yeah, it's a public it's, it's off what's oh, yeah, 20 that goes from atlanta into birmingham yeah, it's off.
Speaker 4:That goes from Atlanta into Birmingham. Matt only plays top 100 private courses. That's not true.
Speaker 3:Is it near Shoal Creek? Is it near Shoal Creek? No, Shoal Creek's in there.
Speaker 2:Find the closest top 100 and I'll figure out how to get to it from there.
Speaker 1:We were talking about the Alabama coursesama courses and uh, a friend, uh, that has a show called. Uh, let us play um or let's golf whatever let's golf.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's go I always say let's play.
Speaker 1:I don't know why it's, let's go. Uh they were talking about, uh they had an incident with a golf cart and, like they were asking, what's the scariest things ever happened to you on a golf cart? And for me it happened there because it's very it's very uphill and downhill and it started raining and we were going downhill and the car locked up and it was just a free fall and I'm like we're going in the ditch and uh pulled out of it but that's what made me think about alabama golf and and that so have you done much of the trail?
Speaker 2:have have you guys done any of the? Robert Gendo.
Speaker 1:I've done Silver Lakes.
Speaker 3:No, so when we went down there, we were supposed to play.
Speaker 1:Ross Bridge, but it was closed.
Speaker 3:But it was closed. But we found a little something off the beaten path that was sick. Shout out, jerry Pate Timberline is a sleeper. Yep, okay, timberline is a fucking sleeper.
Speaker 1:I like the Meadows better. No, don't go play the Meadows. Don't listen to that.
Speaker 3:Don't go play the Meadows. Timberline is a very, very, very Fun golf course just south of Birmingham.
Speaker 1:That place was sick.
Speaker 3:Very fun.
Speaker 1:I didn't enjoy it because I had like the worst Chipotle the night before and had to sleep on Basically a hard.
Speaker 4:Love seat.
Speaker 1:That's the last time I the worst Chipotle the night before and had to sleep on, basically a hard love seat.
Speaker 4:That's the last time I ever had Chipotle.
Speaker 3:That's the thing, though. That's the thing about golf trips, though they bring out, like he's talking about, a lot of like innuendos, of like stories that happen, and that's what's so dope about golf trips and golf trips are easily my favorite thing to do, easily my favorite thing in the world golf trips are the best.
Speaker 2:I get to do them a lot and yeah, you're right man, just the stories and the camaraderie, and it doesn't matter how you play and um, you know the brotherhood and the friendships that you create from golf. And obviously you guys. I remember when you guys started popping up on dan, they're like I had never met you guys and I'm like everything Dan was posting on Instagram like had you guys on it and I'm like who are these dudes? Like who's still on?
Speaker 2:Like, I'm like it's not Barber, it's not me, it's not like Dan's got new, dan's got new friends and you guys are just out playing golf listening and then like it is all the time like okay, hey, we've never we all moved in with dan's got new friends, like, and this is cool, but you guys have done this, uh, this golf adventure together and I love, I love watching you guys. Uh, you know, go around, I eat yourself up.
Speaker 2:You know dan's dance moves and y'all at mackinac I don't know, sometimes I don't know what you're doing, where you're playing, but man, it's, it's, it's. It's awesome just to see a bunch of brothers go out and play and have fun, and that's what golf's about.
Speaker 3:Y'all are doing, that's 100%, 100% have you guys done a gosh darn it.
Speaker 2:Have you guys done anything with random golf club at all? Or have you guys done a mad scramble?
Speaker 4:I have joe have I have yeah like, I feel like so, uh, yeah because, so there was, uh, there was a long.
Speaker 3:There was, um shit, I can't even remember. I know jr what's, uh, what's?
Speaker 5:the heart of your home is brett, brett, brett brett yeah, he moved to arizona.
Speaker 3:they used to be in charge of the Las Vegas chapter and I went out there.
Speaker 3:And he's in Arizona still doing great things. The random golf club chapter in Arizona is fantastic. Shout out Brett. I got to play with him at Action Southern Dunes two years ago. Didn't make it work this year when I was down there, but he's a homie, I mean, and that is the vibe, right, and that's. It's so much fun. It's chaos, it's fucking chaos, but it's so much fun. And there's people intersecting from all areas of culture and the world and industries, and and that's a microcosm of what golf is in a nature, in the nature of it, right, you know. So I love it. I can't do it all the time, right, I would love to, but I don't want to see falls.
Speaker 3:I haven't done the mad scramble no.
Speaker 2:Okay, got you. You guys all have to you have. Next time they roll through Vegas, buy your $35 ticket. I think they're coming soon. I think, yeah, they are. They're going to wrap their Mass Gravel Tour on the West Coast, so you guys are definitely going to get hit.
Speaker 3:You guys would love it For me. When I started playing golf again in 2018, I played a little bit as a kid, but my YouTube algorithm pushed me Adventures in Golf from Eric Anders Lang. That's why it triggered the bug again, so that's how I got into it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:He's the best storyteller in golf really good really good, 100, 100, um.
Speaker 3:But that's what triggered it to me to get back in. In 2018. I posted an og hitting greens little baby boy on a palmer bag for christmas picture on my instagram, but, um, my dad wouldn't buy me new clubs, uh. When I was like 10 and I said, hey, fuck this game, you know. But then in 2018, that youtube algorithm hit me with the adventures in golf. And then I've been hooked ever since.
Speaker 2:You know, killer, killer I went to blake northwoods because of adventures in golf oh, I want to get there.
Speaker 3:So bad so bad.
Speaker 1:I want to go to iceland because of adventures in golf yeah, yeah, that was insane yes yes, that's the thing, though, bro.
Speaker 3:Like with golf, like you go on a trip with your friends, you'll create your own adventure in golf, and that's what adventure in golf is like. What he tells the story like. He might tell you where to go, but even if you go somewhere else with your friends, it's gonna. It's gonna create an adventure in golf like right, we all.
Speaker 2:That's the thing they talk about. When you go to a mad scramble and I've been fortunate, I've done three of them, um, and you know we are talking they'd always talk about like, hey, everybody's here, we're all from different backgrounds. It's exactly what you're saying, like we know, we don't know people, a lot of people, there's a hundred people, we're all going to go play a scramble. You know, we all know each other. We're all here because of one thing, right, we all love golf. So golf's bringing us all together and with the friendships and the memories and all the stuff that we'll develop over the course of the next three hours, that's the most important thing and it's something super, super pure in the game that it's kind of brought back together because golf can be divided, right, you, you know, from the public side to the resort side, to the, the private side.
Speaker 2:Golf is golf live pga side the live side, the pga tour side. Which side are you on? I'll tell you which one.
Speaker 3:Yeah I know, we, we know, we know matt are you a lab guy?
Speaker 2:are you not a lab guy. We know you want to go down that road?
Speaker 1:I do. Did you listen to this Sam interview?
Speaker 2:I have not dude, but I, I, I followed the chirping at the beginning and I did follow your appreciate. I, I seen, I've seen clips of the show. I've not seen the whole thing, so I do need to watch that I'm going to watch it on the airplane tomorrow. There you go. That's a good one.
Speaker 1:I can't believe you got.
Speaker 2:Sam Hahn on. I think that guy is just the coolest. And did you not know him before?
Speaker 1:Never had a conversation with him whatsoever Unbelievable.
Speaker 2:And you posted that video. Did he reach out to you?
Speaker 1:Well, the video went out and it blew up and went crazy and they had commented. He had commented but never reached out. And then when I did the the giveaway where I I made the shirt that said 1440 can't afford a lab putter and that was part of the giveaway. Because, that's what 90% of the comments were. Oh, you just can't afford one. That's why you hate it. That's not what the post is about, dumbass.
Speaker 4:But so I was just making fun of it.
Speaker 1:And so he kind of sent me a message saying you know, he was like kind of just talking shit hard and you know I fired back and then he was like you know what I'm sorry, that wasn't right Blah, blah, blah. And I, I said, I said, hey, he goes, let's just get on a call, let's, let's talk. And so we hopped on a call and chatted and uh, it is, it's amazing because you know, I, I, I don't have anything against him, I don't have anything against lab golf, I don't have anything against the putters, I don't like the revealer. That's what I've let it be known. And we had a really in-depth, great conversation and had so much more in common than either one of us thought and uh, it was, it was a, a great thing that came out of potentially some bad stuff.
Speaker 2:Did it change your perspective of Lab or Sam in general?
Speaker 4:It did for me for sure.
Speaker 1:I firmly believe he believes what he is doing is helping golfers, and I'm all for that is doing is helping golfers and I'm all for that. I, I am somebody that does not think that a torqueless putter is the end all be all to save golf. Uh, it's just another option. I, I do not think the revealer is a device that should be used the way they're using it. Um, it putting is. It's so personal and you got to find something that works for you. I respect him, I respect his drive, I respect his passion and I want nothing but success for him. Um, but I mean, I'm never gonna putt with one jj spawn disagrees with you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he does and and the other 160 guys on tour.
Speaker 3:Disagree with him I will say the thing about what I thought what would happen out of that for me personally was like it almost felt like a marketing scheme uh, curtailed for covet golfers, right, making them believe that there's an answer to everything. Yeah, and there's not. There will not be an answer to every all your woes, never. Oh, yeah, right, no no, we're golfers.
Speaker 3:We'll figure out a way to fuck it up, one way or another exactly, exactly, absolutely but the way with the, the revealer is going to market it to where it's going to fix all your shit, and that's not possible. But he came on here and he explained all that and he completely changed my mind about it and I thought about it. But you know, I, I like looking down at a blade and it is what it is. I, I care more about looks, I'm vain as fuck, right so, but it's fine, I'll deal with miss putts. I'll miss a putt, I don't care, right, I'm out there for the love of the game. So, uh, but if it works for you and we, we, we do this all the time.
Speaker 1:If it works for you, fucking play that shit rocket every time for sure yeah, I, I don't know there was a lot of, and now I I made a second video. Because of all the chaos that went on with that first one, I made a second one with Odyssey's putter. That looked just like the lab design, right yeah, and I made a putt with it. I'm like, oh, let's see who's going to. I'm going to piss off with this. And now it's gaining traction a month and a half after. So it's so weird, but that thing's almost got a million views now. No kidding.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's so weird, but that thing's almost got a million views. Now it's like okay, yeah, it's, it's crazy what goes nuts that is crazy, that's so funny.
Speaker 4:That's like well, I'm heavily invested in lab. You're like sick though matt it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's cool and it's also. It was a financial. I'm also in financial ruin from buying that putter, but um but I do putt good with it I do I do putt good with it.
Speaker 2:Uh, I have three of the models and, uh, I tell you I was. I was struggling on the greens. I was a tailor-made spider guy through and through man. That's my mom. It comes through my blood and I was just struggling and I I'd heard eric talk about the putters and I I didn't really believe the science. I thought I thought they looked ugly and I went and picked one up and put it and started hooping everything and um, oh, no doubt they feel stable as hell, like you feel, like for me I I don't like having that much onset.
Speaker 1:I don't like the putter head that much in front of the shaft. So if if it's a lab putter with a backstrike from odyssey years ago and see more, any of those where there's that much onset, it just doesn't appeal to me. Have you tried?
Speaker 2:one with the and I haven't. But have you tried the Zero Shafling versions that they came out with?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you know they have the Zero Shafling now. I haven't tried one yet, but I know it's kind of for a guy like what you said, Like I don't talk on it because I haven't tried one, but kind of for that look that you're talking about. That just came out like a couple weeks ago, right. No, they had it as custom when they released Oz. So when the Oz release happened was the first time they offered like 0% shaffling.
Speaker 1:So what did you think about the, the plumber's neck version? I haven't seen it that, they just were that's the one I was thinking, I think yeah, the rbc, there was a couple that the players were testing, yeah plumber's neck yes, that's not lie.
Speaker 4:Angle balanced well this has to be same shape, everything, just plumber's neck and no shaft lean.
Speaker 1:I'm going to look it up right now. Yeah, check. I think is it SMS? On tour was posting pictures and I think Johnny Wonder was posting some pictures. Which one are you talking about? It's an Oz that has a plumber's neck. Interesting, interesting.
Speaker 3:Interesting. Yeah, hey, shout out Goodwood, shout out Goodwood putters. Go check out that episode Seriously Like four or five episodes. Do you know, goodwood, matt? I don't. Oh, okay, you got to have to listen to that episode too, bro.
Speaker 4:You better get you a Goodwood Matt.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you one. So I I have been in a putter conundrum for a couple years. Uh, I, I switch putters all the time trying to find the perfect putter. Uh I, I went to the jailbird the plumber's neck jailbird really liked it, but then I started getting super lazy with my stroke on short putts. So I went back to a blade and I have a scotty newport 1.5 flow neck that I love and was rolling it. Well, and then they came out with a slant neck jailbird and I'm like, oh man, I rolled it a couple times. I'm like, god damn it, this is good. So I got that one and that's that's the one that's in the video. Um, and then, uh, I found, uh, I got a smoking deal on an odyssey proto, one that is all black and it was flawless.
Speaker 1:Got it for a smoking deal, so I started playing that and I really liked it and uh, but then I was back and forth between that and that, and then we connected with Goodwood and Dan's been a huge fan of his stuff and so he did a custom putter for each of us, and ever since I've put that in the bag and it's not just the putter, I've also worked with my coach and really working on getting I got the lie angle correct and the swing weight right. My God, is it a good putter, though that's not a good one.
Speaker 2:Now I have a lot of content to watch on the airplane tomorrow. I like it. I'm not going to be watching Adventures in Golf, I'm going to be watching the Chase and.
Speaker 3:Daylight archives yes, we got a lot. We got a lot. It's hard.
Speaker 2:I'm been Houston so you know you guys are coming on 10 30 on a Tuesday, you know, I mean I'm usually well for me. The reason I've been catching so many shows lately is I'm on the way back from my my beach volleyball league, but uh, I'm listening to you guys in the car and uh, uh, but I got to get in the archives.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you don't have to watch live. We are live on every single platform there is and you can learn and watch it yeah.
Speaker 2:Learning how to use YouTube. I'm 41, 41 years old. I'm learning, learning the power of.
Speaker 3:YouTube we're on Apple Spotify. Every show is on. Okay, nice, there's also there's also a website out there 1440golfcom oh, here, let me, let me show that I knew I was gonna segue into something yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I, uh, I'll add this to the thing.
Speaker 1:So uh this is what I've been doing the past two days. I've been updating, so this is my site. This, this is formerly the breakfast ball. This is where the breakfast ball was for since 2009. Uh, recently changed it um to 1440 Golf, but you can see down here. You've got the different things. If you click on the podcast now, it brings it to this page, tells us a little bit about us. There's links to all of our bios on here and then all of the episodes. I'm slowly uploading them. Nice, but in the top, if you do the dropdown, you can go to interviews and it will pop up and these are all the interviews. Only that we've done. I've got about half of those done. And then I'm working on the guest page where you can see the guests that we have had on for some of the interviews Bangers, yeah, good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh look at that, bob.
Speaker 4:West.
Speaker 1:What a bang shut up the cop crop, farmer crop he used to have vegas golf realtor but I changed it to amateur golfer and crop farmer now.
Speaker 4:So to matt bob.
Speaker 1:Bob grows gas, bro, really yeah, bob grows gas yeah, that's okay, I should be on a shirt, yeah, so yes, eventually that'll all be updated with everything, uh, so you can uh go on there and see all the episodes, because the website that I had for it I just wasn't happy with it. I wanted to have you know, a little bit more control on what's happening. So it will, it will get better.
Speaker 2:I just found my favorite part of the page. I found the biggest golf rankings.
Speaker 1:Oh now I have my rankings.
Speaker 3:There's caveats. All right, there's caveats.
Speaker 2:Controversy. Well, it's gonna some of the controversy will go away now that joe and jeremy have played shadow creek.
Speaker 1:So yeah that's true that's true.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true. Number one, jeremy, jeremy, without you, jeremy, that was your first time to joe what'd you think buddy? Oh yeah, that place is perfect for sure.
Speaker 3:So good, I walked away saying I can see. I can see how this is worth 1200. I didn't say it's worth it, but I could. I said I can see how it's worth 1200 yeah and we got to. We got to play 26 holes. Okay, we played the back nine twice under the lights, barefoot on the second nine. Oh cool, sick as sick. Oh cool. Experiences on experiences loved it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was incredible I told I was telling the story last night and our stream. Like when joe came on the stream last night I don't know, dano, if you were in there, but I was like man, we lived in vegas, we were counting up at bears and then I was in plague shadow and I was like that place is overrated. It's like that was like 500 bucks like this, don't waste that for good. And then you go play. You're like shit, I was wrong.
Speaker 4:Wow, this is so good okay so also I need that I need.
Speaker 3:I, I don't. I, I didn't get that. Uh, I didn't get that slip. I didn't get it in my email. Oh really, yeah, I didn't get it, but we'll move on, but I'm just letting you know, gotcha.
Speaker 1:All right. So I want to get into this, because Dan said, you said Pine Valley is not as great as everyone says it is, and I want to know why Okay, that's a place. I want to know why Okay, that's a place I'll probably never play, probably never see.
Speaker 4:I'll never play, that I know.
Speaker 1:I gotta be careful because I don't want to get banned from.
Speaker 2:Pine Valley by the secret police on the internet, but I'll give you my take. So I've been very blessed and I've played a lot of the top 100. I'm 41 years old. I've been very blessed and I've played a lot of the top 100. I'm 41 years old. I've been very, very, very, very blessed and so I feel like I'm allowed to have a little bit of my own perspective on that. Absolutely, and I think to me, the thing about Pine Valley and Pine Valley is great and it's a really cool experience. It's a fantastic logo, you know, great lodging on property, lots of different kinds of lodging. Like we stayed in the Annex when we were there, which is right on number four or five. It's kind of like a dormitory style room, group showers, which is kind of weird for a place like glittery. You shower like you're in a gym locker room.
Speaker 3:Well, how were the showers?
Speaker 2:I mean they like shower like you're in a gym locker room. Well, how are the showers I?
Speaker 3:mean there's yeah, they were weird when you're with members, when you're 12 and you're all I do some guys over in the corner. So there's ig pages dedicated to golf showers. Would you quit stopping your ass? They have group. What yeah well?
Speaker 2:the annex has got like a it's like a like. It's like uh, you have your own room, but then yeah, there's like. It's like you have your own room, but then yeah, it's like a locker room. That's not every lodging at Pine Valley. That's just. There is one form of lodging like that there.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Super cool par three course. You know the par three course. A lot of people don't know that Pine Valley is like they replicate the sex of a bunch of your second shots. Oh, that's cool. So, yeah, so like a couple of the par, par, par threes on the par three course don't have a, have a tee box Like. It's like like a, it's like a fairway with the green. So it's like this is the second shot on six or sorry, on five or whatever. So it's it's like this big and it says absolutely no mulligans and they are dead serious about their no mulligan rule. Like whatever, wherever you hit it off of one, like good go, you hit it. Like you're getting the next hit it go, yeah for sure. So pine valley is a good golf course.
Speaker 2:Pine valley is one of the hardest golf courses in the country. I don't think pine valley is the number one golf courses in the country. I don't think pine valley is the number one golf course in the country. I don't think it's the number one golf course. Uh, I don't. I think there's a um. I think if you look at the top 100, the current golf digest top 100, you can really actually just I think you can justify saying those are the top 100 hardest golf courses in the country. I'm not sure that they're the best golf courses in the country and I think you know everybody has a different way of how you see that, yeah, yeah yeah, you know, um, some of us like it for experience and amenities and and uh vibe, right, uh, conditions.
Speaker 2:Um, you know, if you go play keo island and you know you know keo island's a top 100 golf course super hard not to me, not a top 100 golf course. Like you play it once you're like okay, cool, that was fun. Whatever who you know that was, that was. I had a great time shooting 80 at keo island. Like I don't like you know, like um, you know I played it from 7600 yards. Uh, that wasn't that much fun and every hole looks the same. They're just hard like strive for and all day.
Speaker 1:That doesn't make it great, right what makes it right, yeah, so yeah, I could name, I could name, you know.
Speaker 2:Think about, think about all the discovery golf courses, right, discovery land company, of course, yeah, and think about how few of them are in the top 100 one, because they don't allow a lot of them, don't allow raiders, right, they don't.
Speaker 2:They don't care about rating, right, but those golf courses you know, we were talking about fazio last night, one of my favorite, you know, he's a great designer, he's got, he's got art everywhere, right, and these are the some of the best conditions, best amenities, best service. You know what goes into the top 100. And if you, when we did bluejack, we started having raiders, when we, when we opened bluejack, right, uh, the rating wasn't as high as what we had anticipated it to be. And then when you get, get the coding scale and you can look it up on, it's a really interesting thing If you do. You go look up what, how, how the ratings are are are weighted. Resistance to scoring is a double weighted category and the golf digest rating is a double weighted category, so that resistance to scoring, based on resistance scoring, that counts twice towards your, your score.
Speaker 2:Wow, so if you can't, tell me that that doesn't lean linge you towards difficult right. Yeah, yeah, um, you know I? I don't know if I was gonna say what's the best hundred offers in the world. I don't know if I would double weight resistance to scoring right. Um, because, just because the golf course is hard, it's great, like, no, like we't. We didn't Tiger woods when he was doing blue Jack Nash. It wasn't designing a golf course to make it hard, right, he wanted to make it great, I can make it, you know, and what we should have done.
Speaker 2:And we we talked about it at one point. Like every Raider that come here they have to about resistance scoring good luck. Go back to 75 50 and tell me that it was really easy, like and I don't care that there's no rough and it's fairway everywhere, like from 7500 yards, when you start hitting four irons into those greens instead of wedges from the number piece like yeah it's a whole different golf course, buddy like.
Speaker 2:So I could make it really hard if you want to, but that's not what the golf course was designed to do. The golf course designed for, like a junior, a 25 handicapper of a 10 handicapper and one hand ever to go play golf and not lose a golf ball and have a great, enjoyable day with great service, great, awesome and on perfect zoysia all day long. Not hit a ball out of the rough and not lose a. How fun is it to go play a golf course and lose a dozen golf balls? Who likes that? Well, how's that grow golf? What makes that? I mean, it seems like backwards thinking to me.
Speaker 4:Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox.
Speaker 2:I'll get off my soapbox.
Speaker 3:I don't care if I lose 12 or 24 or 36. As long as I enjoy my time out there, then fucking that place was dope.
Speaker 1:You don't have 36 in your bag, so you would be really upset.
Speaker 3:I'd have to bum a lot. But you know it's fine, all right If I have to join myself.
Speaker 1:We'll do this real quick. Matt, your top five If you had to play five courses, your top five, oh God, Of all the courses that you've played. And you don't have to go into details, just run them off.
Speaker 3:I have one question after this Monterey Peninsula Country Club Oakmont.
Speaker 2:Maidstone.
Speaker 3:Maidstone Nice.
Speaker 2:Let's go. I don't know how you can't not have Pebble in there and I'm going to say, let's go, wingfoot.
Speaker 4:Awesome.
Speaker 1:Okay, tillinghast the best pro shops.
Speaker 2:Grove 23 okay, of course oh, come on, okay, um Wingfoot trying to think of where I've done serious damage. Wingfoot Trying to think of where I've done serious damage. Yeah, mpcc, pro Shops or Logos. Are we doing Pro Shops or Logos Pro?
Speaker 1:Shops. You go into Pro Shop, you're like oh, I'm Curation.
Speaker 3:I'm matching up the card. Curation of the pro shop.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, yeah so grow 23 is a number one, for sure. Wing foot, you cannot stop yourself the logos too. I yeah, and it's great the vibe. Oh, come on, you want to buy everything. Uh, can I stop there? Yeah?
Speaker 1:all right, the last one. I got the best conditions you've played, not the the best course, not the hardest course, the best like you cannot believe how amazing this place was.
Speaker 2:That's okay, super easy there. I think that's Oakmont. God, what was I doing? What's out of my mind? Mpcc, it depends on what time you go of the year ago sage um sorry, hold on. Oh, philly cricket club hands down fairways at philly great club are just so sick. Um, blue jack national back in the day. I think you'd have to put that one up there. Um, got it, you got to have, like I mean I could, the Quarry in La Quinta.
Speaker 4:Palm Springs yeah.
Speaker 2:Not a blade of grass bent sideways out there, and then we'll go. Number five, let's go. I've got to throw some Discovery Love because they're just all too good, so I'm going to go. Silo Ridge in Permania, new York.
Speaker 1:Have you played Madison Club? No, sir, have you played Ladera?
Speaker 3:No, Joe.
Speaker 4:Can you guys tell me, have you guys?
Speaker 3:played Ladera.
Speaker 2:No, I looked up the website after you said it to me.
Speaker 3:Is it open? It is open, it's open, but it's pretty open.
Speaker 4:It's open, but it's pretty exclusive, I think okay cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's pretty deep. I'll be there tomorrow. We did have a question from the chat uh, where's the best post round burger?
Speaker 2:that's super easy. Olympic it doesn't. I mean post round, pre-round, during round a burger dog. There's nothing more magical than a burger dog and golf yeah, I last time I was at olympic and this is gonna make me sound really fat but I think I had six throughout the day now.
Speaker 2:It was a long day and then I had a heart attack uh, but we had the we did the par three course got there, got there, had a burger dog, went and did the cliffs. Nine came off the close, nine had a burger dog. I think I had a burger dog at the turn and then on 15 again maybe like yeah, at 9, 15, and then yeah, and then we had one at the end around because you just had to like, so good oh, that's amazing.
Speaker 3:My my question was if you're gonna spend four days on a golf resort, where would you spend it? And like one one spot spot. Easy answer One spot Sand Valley.
Speaker 1:Sand Valley.
Speaker 2:Yep Fuck, I hope you said abandoned. No well, I like abandoned.
Speaker 3:I haven't been to. I gotta get to Sand Valley, Fuck yeah so I haven't been to abandoned.
Speaker 2:The last time I was abandoned was when there was only four of them right, so the original four and I know you guys went up. I'm super jealous of your trip. The Sheep's Ranch looked amazing. You guys did Princesses Interesting.
Speaker 3:Dan, I got an 8.
Speaker 2:You got a whole lot on Sheep's yeah.
Speaker 4:I remember that.
Speaker 2:Okay, wait, hold on. Can I do something fun Of the original four abandoned golf courses, the OG4, what's your favorite Number one? You can only play one Trails, abandoned golf courses, the og4, what's your just? What's your favorite number one after you can only play one?
Speaker 1:trails. Oh fuck, I could, if I could only play one. Yeah, don't, yeah, like I show up at the course, I can only, oh man, yep it's between trails and pacific dunes, for sure for me it's between trails and mac, but I gotta go trails okay, yeah, I'd go pack dunes okay I love them all so much, I love them all so much, but I think I think, damn, trails.
Speaker 3:Trails tells a story, right, and I'm a big storyteller, I love the story of trails I think, pack dunes is a better golf course and old mac is a lesson in history. So that's the hard thing, but trails.
Speaker 2:If I had to walk one golf course, it'd probably be the story of abandoned trails you know that like your guys's answers are awesome because I'm a trails guy and I think you know you talk to the average golfer who goes to banning dunes and they're like oh man, you know trails is rich trails are so hard right, so it wasn't that great. You know, trails was like the best golf course there, right like 100.
Speaker 3:It's the best offers, but it's also a story.
Speaker 2:It's a story and then who said old mac, oh, you did. Yeah, there's you back. You and I are the same like I'm a trails old mac guy, right, because old mac is that's scottish golf like. If you like I've, I'll be in scotland in august. I've been to scotland and played a bunch of golf. The closest thing to scottish golf to me is is old mac like open and you can how you play the ball on the ground and all this stuff. And and dunes and Packer are beautiful and there's some great holes. There's some iconic holes on both those golf courses. To me, the best two golf courses are old Mac and and and band of trails. I couldn't agree with you guys more. So I know you guys are all made of dunes fans. I've been. I've been dying to ask you.
Speaker 1:I hated Old Mac. The first time I played it, absolutely hated it. And then, the second time I played it it was with our buddy Scotty. He was a looper up there for a while and he told me he goes, why don't you like it? And I said I just like it.
Speaker 1:He goes, I'm going to make you love it and so the next time we played it, he goes I'm going to hand you a club. I don't want you looking at it, I'm just gonna hand you a club and I'm gonna have you hit these shots. And I shot I think it's 75 that day and I hit some of the most fun creative shots that I had no idea I knew how to hit and he's like. That is why old mac is special.
Speaker 2:100, yeah, 100 but yeah, let yeah go back to your resort. Or like question, like you guys would go, you sand valley would be, so your jam uh I want to play the lido, so badly.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, it's so good, uh, but just the lodging, the, the pricing is fair, the weather is perfect, the walk is incredible. The whole variety is unbelievable. What dream golf is doing up there in san valentino. You just don't ever want to leave. It is so you guys would have the best golf trip of your life at san valentino and like and I'm a stream song guy.
Speaker 2:I like bandon. Uh, I'm really excited. I haven't played cabinet citrus, but I think right now, if I had to plan a golf trip for for people, I'm sitting in sand valley all right, you said cabot, have you played cliffs? No, no on the list.
Speaker 3:Yeah, want to do it right yeah, so I I have so many questions for you, but we'll, we will, we will sustain. Okay, there was there was uh because we're we're at 105, we got, we still have to get in. Okay, we're gonna go all night. No, there's not a time limit, but matt usually is the one. He's dad. Right, matt is the dad and he's like hey guys, all right, let's just chill out.
Speaker 1:Here we're talking normally it's like, okay, this is dragging on and I gotta go to bed, but this is good stuff I did.
Speaker 3:So let me get to this one, because uh temper, who is a huge whatnot? Supporter of mine and yours, matt, um, he asked best budget friendly. Uh golf trip you can do with your buddies, best area to go easy go to the up, go to the up forest dunes.
Speaker 2:Uh, I think, uh, you know you could do forest dunes and I don't know, I don't know what a, what a round is running up. Uh, so that's upper peninsula, michigan, um, but during the summer, so thumper, thumper is minnesota.
Speaker 3:Thumper works on a, on a golf course, I believe. I can't remember the name thumper, but on in minnesota. Uh, he works at the, the resort, I believe. Do I remember that correctly? I'm not sure, but yeah. So I'm going to say I'm going to say I'm going to well.
Speaker 2:I got two things I'm going to say. I'm going to say the UP in the summer. I mean, it's probably their highest rate is obviously in the summertime, so but I think it UPN. Then you got Arcadia Bluffs and you got a couple and then just a bunch of sleepers up there. Um, uh, but uh.
Speaker 3:I would say, the other thing is like go do.
Speaker 2:We did the um and super close to you guys, but we did St George last year. We did it in the middle of summer, we did in july. We rented a house at copper rock. We rented a house that probably rents for five thousand dollars a night during the season, that's, the one on the, the 10th green on. No, uh, 11 fairway or whatever it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah uh, the round cul-de-sac with all the houses and the yeah sick right for like basically four master bedrooms, a pool.
Speaker 2:And then we did. We just did everything. We did Black Desert, we did Copper Rock, we did Wolf Creek, we did Sand Hollow. Dan helped us with a couple. We got to get on the private course. There I had a member who was a buddy, who's a member at what's the one in?
Speaker 4:St.
Speaker 2:Louis, entrata, entrata.
Speaker 4:And then our caddy told us one day go up and play the ledges he goes, I live here you know, it's actually just sick, so it's super cool like like really coming down the stretch there, uh and like in the summertime, so cheap and you can rent a house for nothing and like, yeah, it's 100 degrees.
Speaker 2:I don't know where you live, but like, if you don't mind, just like dry 100, it's awesome, like I will I'll say thumper all.
Speaker 3:St george is a great idea, thumper. But I will say is uh, go to pinehurst and don't play pinehurst, play the smaller ones around pinehurst. You know what I mean. In the off season, go in winter, take the gamble. Or go to south car Myrtle Beach, take the gamble. We did it. Take the gamble, play Tothill or Tobacco Road in the offseason. Just because the grass isn't green doesn't make it a bad golf course, guys. All right, you know what I mean. If the grass ain't green, it's fine. It's just plain different. And then go back.
Speaker 1:No one would play in Texas if that was the case. No more greener grasses.
Speaker 3:Dude, caledonia and True Blue. One of the best double bangers you can do and they're right next to each other.
Speaker 4:South Myrtle Beach, Matty Mike Strance.
Speaker 3:Mike Strance is one of the funnest golf architects you will play in your entire life. I will live and die by that who's your favorite architects, matt?
Speaker 1:who's your favorite architect? Not a big one uh, tom does that okay funnest nope uh the one I I strength strength.
Speaker 3:Mike strength, mike strength, mike strength, mike strength okay, don't hold me to that, though, mike strength hmm, I mean trails.
Speaker 5:My favorite course I've ever played, so probably Cork Crenshaw, but I'm a big fan of Shadow, so Tom's also up there.
Speaker 3:Haji.
Speaker 4:Alistair McKenzie.
Speaker 3:Ah yeah, shut up the legend.
Speaker 1:What about you, Matt?
Speaker 2:Seth Rayner for sure.
Speaker 3:Never played a true Rayner. I can't believe I didn't put any Rayners on my top five.
Speaker 2:Seth Rayner for sure. Any Rayner Never played a true Rayner. I can't believe I didn't put any Rayners on my top five. I could put five Rayners up there that are just incredible.
Speaker 3:I still have a lot to check off. I've never played a true.
Speaker 2:Rayner, have you guys not played a bunch of template holes?
Speaker 4:When you go to the Sand Valley, charlleston muni, charleston muni. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hey, I drove right by it when we went to the country club of charleston and the temple of charleston is like just just, template after template after template, but like, um, you know that style of golf with the cross bunkers and plateau and redan and barrettes and the reverse redans and uh, punch bowls, and it's just like every hole's a new adventure and you just have no idea what's around the next bend. That, to me, is such a fun.
Speaker 1:It was awesome, awesome we don't get that out here. You know what the vegas golf is like, that's for sure. We don't get that out here.
Speaker 2:That's what we should do, we should do, what we should build a vegas template, golf course. Can you imagine, yeah, the crush it would be? We need the flattest piece of land too. We don't even need and you don't need anything. You build it in between. You could build it into. Uh, uh, think about it. You can build the salt flats out there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we don't, you just push up dirt and do template stuff super easy. You just dig out the bunker holes and place them on berms around the green. Easy, 100%, dude. That's a billion-dollar idea.
Speaker 2:100% You're going to need it to build it out here.
Speaker 1:AstroTurf.
Speaker 3:No one will let you A little bit of a water issue An AstroTurf golf course. Part three, short mini part three in Vegas.
Speaker 2:More close to closing per capital than anywhere else in the country Lit up to Love that idea In a dome TGL things.
Speaker 1:TGL things.
Speaker 2:You know you're going to have the next TGL site for sure. This is awesome, rob said.
Speaker 1:Moral of the podcast tonight so many great courses, so many great architects. Let's go play some golf, yeah all right absolutely, absolutely all right. So let's get into this new adventure of whatnot. What brought you to what not? First off, instagram.
Speaker 2:I guess probably, I don't know. I just saw it on instagram so I don't know. Like an ad, for I bought this. I bought this laptop for nine dollars and I got this pair of bravis scotts for 52 bucks. Good luck finding that deal.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen that deal I haven't seen that deal around anywhere, by the way. Um, yeah, I was just sitting on my couch and I don't know lazy saturday, sunday afternoon and downloaded the app and was messing around and I don't know. And then then I I was in there originally looking for shoes because I'm a sneaker head uh, my jordan, jordan golf guy and um, and then I wandered into an electronic show and I'm like, oh okay, those guys selling cool stuff. And then I'm not really a golf consumer, so so much because I was in the golf business for so long. And then I clicked on the golf page and I saw some crazy stuff. I mean, I saw, you know guys selling used golf clubs and yeah, you know, like you know, uh, just you know apparel and all you know. And then I get to a flip through a page. I saw a guy selling golf balls, like by the sleeve, and I'm like what is it? This guy just sold a golf ball. It's a sleeve of golf balls for like 20, 25 bucks. I'm like what?
Speaker 1:the heck is going on.
Speaker 2:And then, so I'm thinking about it, I'm sitting there and my wife's there and I'm like you know what, like I can do this, I can sell.
Speaker 1:So I clicked the button said become a seller.
Speaker 2:So I went through the little 10 minute, little 10 minute thing and it's like, okay, do this, do this right, watch this video. And then it's like, okay, you went through seller training, now it's got your first show and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do a show tonight at 6 30. And I'm like, okay, great, take a picture, make a background.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, okay, I can do that, walk in my little office over my golf room and I put my staff bags together in front of my flag and I took a picture of it and that's my thumbnail. And then I told her. I said, well, I guess we've got to add some stuff to the shop. So I started taking pictures of all my stuff and I was like the clock is ticking down right, it's taking me a little longer and I'm like tripod and I put my phone up in there and like, uh, I didn't really know anything.
Speaker 2:I didn't really like you know kind of trains you but doesn't really train you and so it's a funny thing is like my wife tracy, like I was like, okay, get a computer, we're gonna, let's set you up a little desk in the corner and like you got to track all the sales. Like we had no idea that like whatnot was tracking sales, like video receipts, all that stuff. So like, okay, here's a notepad. Like you gotta track the sales. Like we don't really know how this goes.
Speaker 2:So then we press live and we go live and there's like 24 people in my chat, uh, 24 people in my stream, and I'm like, oh, that's, this is awesome. I'm like, hey, guys, no, don't, don't roast me too bad. I was like, but I got like some cool stuff and people like, okay, hold on. Like then they start filling stuff in the chat like run that, run, that I think I see it in my background. I'm like you guys want, you guys want this. I was like, uh, and I had some fun, and so next thing, you know, so we, we uh, um that night.
Speaker 2:So six hours later, yeah, um we were in for six hours and, uh, we, I end the stream and I look over my wife and it's like that, like I think we sold like a couple of big pile of shit on the floor, like all of the all of the stuff we sold like are on the floor. And I look at her and I was like I think we made like like we might've made a thousand dollars. And then, like I get a text message from Dano and he goes that was fucking insane, bro. And I get an email from. I get an email from whatnot Like immediately after. It was like congratulations on your first show you did $6,500 in sales. I looked over and I said we just sold $6,000 worth of shit. Like what is going on?
Speaker 3:So, matt, matt, let me tell you a story that I don't know if I've told you or if Dan's told you, but I was doing a show that night and I was like whenever, whenever I end the show, right, I'm like hey, guys, give me uh options who we should rate, and then we'll rate that person. Okay, and I think I think it might have been levi, it might have been for right 91, guys go follow for right 91. Uh, I think for right said go raid like mm car or what your name, because it was matt bar 87265, whatever I knew.
Speaker 2:So yeah.
Speaker 3:So I was like, okay, we'll rate this guy because they were like he's new, so we'll hit him up. And then I raid you and I'm watching your show and I text dan. I'm like, bro, is this your homie matt? And I took a screenshot of your show and he's like that's him. I was like holy shit, what the fuck is going on here?
Speaker 1:yeah, we had no idea it was you, because I was on, I was watching no idea that night really, yeah, and we went over and we were watching you, you know, yeah, we were blown away by the analytics, right, we were like we got the analytics report.
Speaker 2:We're like man, there was like there was 2500, you know 2,500 views of the show. I think 2,500 people went through our stream at some point, I think I don't know if, whatever that means, or in and out of the stream, I don't know how exactly it works like, but we had like a I think we had an average sustained view of like 81 people was like our average and like a high count of like 121. I had zero followers, right. I just like literally downloaded it. So it was a weird blown away.
Speaker 2:And I think I told everybody in that first show like hey, I'm a logo guy, right, I've been fortunate enough to go around the world, I collect, I mean, I just I like consuming, right, consuming of the great logos, so, but you know, I have so much of it like might as well share it with everybody, right, and I'm definitely a logo snob, right, I cherish a good logo. I'm not going to buy something with a with an ugly logo and I know what's good and so. So, yeah, it was really. And it didn't really. You know, it wasn't until after that show that I realized what the opportunity is here, what the, the, the, the, what the opportunity is here, what this digital e-commerce movement is yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:We're at the forefront of it, so I'm trying to capture. I've got a lot of opinions on what's going to happen and Dan and I just talked for about an hour and a half about it.
Speaker 1:Dude, how much do you think eBay is shitting in their pants right now?
Speaker 2:I think I don't think they're shitting in their pants honestly. To be honest, my opinion of this whole matter is I think that we are or are they going to crush?
Speaker 1:well, correct.
Speaker 2:I think my opinion and I told Dan this just a little bit ago I said every single major brand and platform will have this platform or something similar within the next six to 24 months. This is the way that people are. This will there Amazon? You will there. There will be a link, whether it's on Amazon or if it'll be Amazon live or whatever it is, but you will buy on Amazon via a live stream. You will buy from Best Buy. You, you will sit on your couch and you'll click. You'll click on the Best Buy app and you will buy from a person in a store at Best Buy. You will do this.
Speaker 2:I have a hot take that I think that the major golf manufacturers may get into this game at some point. I don't have any proof to go with that, but you've seen the trend and Gary Vee is a great follow. If you're not following, oh yeah, okay, perfect, I think you guys are. Yeah, you guys are smart guys, but you know, you listen to kind of what he talks about and like this, overseas, in China and Japan and Korea this is 60% of their e-commerce is done in a type of fashion like this, right, wow? So you know, I think Whatnot is valued about a $7 billion company. They haven't IPO yet, but I think it's the valuation of what they are and I think Whatnot is being used at about 5% of its capability. So I think talking about Whatnot and being involved in Whatnot right now is like selling somebody Bitcoin for a dollar.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like buying Amazon for a buck. So I'm not telling you to buy the stock because the stock's not available, but I'm just saying being involved in it and getting familiar with this platform and this type of selling is going to be something big. And yeah, I'm going all in on this. I'm not quitting my job yet, but we've got some big plans and some big goals and some big dreams, and I made a pretty healthy announcement about that. That is a great logo. Where is that great lighthouse? Where is that?
Speaker 4:isn't it? Sinkity head matt. Yeah, thank you, oh, thank you, oh I heard.
Speaker 2:That's fantastic, that's a bang logo right there.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, it's thank you, is that? Yeah, it's nah, nantucket, nantucket. Yeah, the mid-am was there a couple years ago and my buddy made it and he let me.
Speaker 2:I caddied for him I might want to hang on to that one.
Speaker 1:Well, I have a show you can tell on. This isn't going anywhere.
Speaker 2:I have a show you can tell on if you want to.
Speaker 3:No, no, it's coming to mind Matt Chill. Okay, no, I think you are 100% correct. My story is similar to yours. I correct like. And my story is similar to yours like I was grilling in the backyard and I was watching whatnot. I was watching whatnot for a year before I even jumped on the cell.
Speaker 3:I got approved to sell for like six months before I even jumped on and I was like maybe one day I'll do this. And I was grilling in the back and there was a dude yelling at me and you can take that how it is right. But uh, I was like this guy's selling shit. And uh, I was like I can do this, I have stuff in my garage right now. And I was like, fuck it, I'm scheduling a show. And I did it and uh, it's awesome. Yeah, and uh, and the community is incredible. Like these guys are showing up in our podcast, like, uh, birdie in a can thumper, like these guys are supporting us, but we also support them. And I think I don't, man, I don't even want to stretch that far, we won't even go there.
Speaker 3:But I think you should. There's, there's golfers coming into the platform that actually, like, love golf, right like me and you, like we're golfers. And there's there's people out there that don't know golf the way we do and that that's my whole shtick, right like I want to be on there and teach people the way of golf. Like I don't give a fuck how much money I sell on a show, sure I could care less if I break even, make five, lose ten, make a thousand, whatever. Like I want to because I love this game so much. I want to because there's so many new people. I was on the show the other day and I was like throw w's in the chat if you have been playing less than a year. And it was all w's and I was like holy shit, like it is my interesting weapon to ask.
Speaker 3:That's an interesting one I feel like it's like our responsibility is like golfers welcoming people into the game to teach them the ways, and that's it's so much fun too. Like dude, I just love interacting. It's so much fun, it's chaos, but on.
Speaker 1:On the flip side of that is like when we saw your stuff and I'm like nobody that nobody knows, knows what you're telling dude I was trying to show this I threw up a shadow creek like ball marker and nobody knew what it was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, and that, and that's when it like clicked.
Speaker 2:I was like there's so much out there to explore yeah, and I think a little bit of, like my, my channel is a little bit of storytelling, right too, because, like you know, exactly right, you know. So I'm not just like, I'm not selling stuff that I haven't been to, I haven't experienced, I can't you know um.
Speaker 3:Look at that comment, so thumper what not brought me to golf, that's awesome what's super cool. That's crazy, that is welcome to the game. Welcome to the game, man. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:I mean yeah and so like, yeah, I think and that's the cool thing, one of the cool things like everybody's got their own deal right, everybody's kind of got their um and it doesn't need to be that way. You can have multiple lanes right.
Speaker 2:But right now yeah like the golf community has like, uh, there's the used club guys and there's the head cover guys and there's the long guys, and I kind of came into it not knowing any of the lanes, but I'm like this is what I got. I think this is cool stuff, like this is like the guys that I hang out with. This is like badass stuff. And I guess at the time when I got in there I didn't really care about what price I was selling it for. That's not a really good business model by the way.
Speaker 2:Same either. My thought process on that has changed a little bit over the last six weeks. But yeah, there's business opportunities here and there's golf and there's connections and there's. You can use whatnot for a lot of different ways, for a lot of different things. You can use it for a lot of different ways for a lot of different things. You can use it for a lot of inappropriate things too. I mean, we're American, people are consumers, right, so we all consume, and so you've got to be mindful of that as well, and I'm guilty of that in the first six weeks.
Speaker 1:Boy, I can tell you I've been buying stuff that I I suspended.
Speaker 4:Dan last week I suspended dan dan, I go yeah I go, you're, you're suspended for 24 hours. I'm suspending myself. I'm gonna delete the app probably in the next week or two, I woke up.
Speaker 3:I woke up to a text, dan text me, he goes, I mean dan text me the, the first text I see in the morning one week, uh one day. Last said I just bought a $130 drone for $10.
Speaker 2:I've done that.
Speaker 1:Did you really buy a drone? We need a drone.
Speaker 2:Still in the box. I will gladly sell my $1,000 drone that I bought for $199.
Speaker 4:I think it's just a little, did you?
Speaker 1:buy it from a little chinese lady in the back of a container no well, no, actually, yeah it was.
Speaker 3:It wasn't a little chinese lady there but, also the thing that you get, you get hooked on is the community, because people look out for each other and they help you out and they promote you and like even the guys in the in in the chat on our show this evening, like they've purchased from me and I've chatted with them and I've talked with them and it's like it's like it's golf, it's like a, it's like a microcosm of golf, but it's the golf community and whatnot, and I love everyone out there. Like it's so much fun.
Speaker 4:I just happened on ghq's channel today. Oh, it's awesome yeah, they were off the wedge. They re-ran it like 20 times and people were paying, like like one guy paid 300 and said rerun, it just gave him money do you know how much they?
Speaker 2:I'm not sure. Do you know? I don't know I I popped in for a second, but I don't know how much they raised today.
Speaker 3:But I have to tell you yeah, thumper is the one that tagged us.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and he said yeah, I was going to say Thumper had said they were over two grand at one point. That was the last time he said I gave them three grand.
Speaker 2:No, they raised two grand on the yeah, yeah, yeah, so, uh, yeah, um, yeah, clinton and the jh2 guys they seem like great guys out of out of midland texas. They're obviously doing some big things on the app. They're huge. I think they have like four. Uh, they've got. I look today I think they have like 30 000 followers on whatnot. Um, they're definitely they're moving some serious weight. Um, they don't really rule. You know, I think they lost actually lost, some friends in the Texas floods the other day.
Speaker 2:I have to laugh real quick because North of 6K somebody said in the chat I just have to laugh. I just looked at the chat. I haven't been able to see it this whole time. But Rob Chapman said Matt's favorite question any grips? I'm not a grip guy but I have some 007 grips.
Speaker 1:I won one of those in one of your give giveaways. I have it in the garage oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:It's a cool grip, isn't it? Oh, it is cool I mean, I wish I had nine more, but I it's, it's on display you know, I, I, I gotta, I gotta source some more of those ones. But uh, yeah, I was gonna use those for a personal thing, but I got caught up in the show in the moment and somebody asked me for grips, so, uh, now I have to.
Speaker 3:Yeah it's crazy man, it's storytelling, like I purchased like yeah, I golf club. Uh, I've never played it and I am a hardcore believer like never represent something that you've never played.
Speaker 2:But it's right. I show you the kid, I show you the coolest trophy I've ever won in my life from. Absolutely. This is the member guests. This is the. I don't know if you can see this. This is the member guest trophy. It's a it's a coal car. Can you see it? Oh, wow, yeah, that's cool oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:It's super heavy coal car yeah, so that's their logo, is the coal car logo, and I played in the member guests like four years in a row and I went every year with the member and I was like we have to win this. And the last year we won, we won our flight and I'm like I, we like I think we went out in the first hole. To shoot out first was maybe the second hole shoot. I was like I don't care, I'll get it home with a coal car, like that's gonna be in my office forever. That's the coolest road. So yeah, that's sick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, maybe the thing, bro, like I mean it's the you look out for the people that look out for you always. That is a core lesson in life, right? Yeah, look out for the people that look out for you.
Speaker 2:So, and I have to give you guys a shout out big time because you guys have I mean, it's honestly like everybody kind of knew I was new and the support that I've got like after the the first. Obviously I think I disrupted a few things a little bit, I guess I like to say it but come in as kind of selling some different stuff.
Speaker 1:And then with too much heat, too fast.
Speaker 2:I definitely came in with a lot of heat really fast for sure yeah. I didn't know really how to scale it. Honestly, to be totally honest, right, I never thought about doing a second show.
Speaker 2:Right, be totally honest right I never thought about doing a second show, right. So my first show I was like I just let it rip. I mean, we went for six hours. It was, it was bananas.
Speaker 2:And then you realize, then you learn a really great wet and out lesson like six hours of packing boxes the next night and you know ordering an amazon printing, you know a shipping label machine from amazon and and sourcing boxes from usps. And then some somebody's got a ground advantage and so you got to go in your garage and find another little box. It's not a USPS, you know a box. So it's just some valuable lessons. But, um, you know, I was just saying like the guys, like you know, obviously you guys and some of the other sellers that like message me and like, hey, dude, you did a great, it was a banger show. But um, I know I can tell you're just learning, like call me, let's, let's chat. I have some ideas for you. And that's a little bit of where now the brand that we're going to try to launch and do some stuff with that came from, and so we're super excited about that too.
Speaker 3:So All right. So I know we got a lot of whatnot people tuning in, so I'm trying to figure this out. Guys, help me out. I know where's the fairway. I didn't know him, as in the flood. I know I asked that question in the chat. No, this was a month or so ago. Oh, yeah, okay, okay, I do know about that. Okay, so shout out where's the fairway on whatnot? He hasn't been, he hasn't been on lately, but where's the fairways?
Speaker 3:The man, um, the community came behind him on whatnot, like massive ways. I donated money, I bought stuff from him, but there was situations that people never seen. But the community on whatnot will come together 100%. Like it's crazy, like where's the fair? Do you even? Do you know where's the fairway? Matt, yeah, you're new. So it was like a month ago, but everybody, he had a show where he was like spilling the beans and, um, we were all donating to him and it's like that's what's so dope. Everybody comes together and everybody supports, supports each other. That's what's so cool about it.
Speaker 3:Um, but yeah, I'm sorry, I was trying to catch up on this chat because these guys are talking about where's the fairway. Yeah, up on this chat because these guys are talking about where's the fairway. Yeah, I, I guys, I know I, I was there for it, but, um, I didn't know, I didn't know if he was in the flood, but the flood is the most recent topic. So sorry, sorry, sorry, shout out, where's the fairway? That's the man. Hey guys, hey guys, hey guys is that a gong?
Speaker 1:no, that's. That's joe's monstrosity of a microphone boom that he refuses to upgrade.
Speaker 2:Yeah, can we get on? Can we find him? Can we find him? Hey, at least I got a microphone.
Speaker 3:I got a microphone, at least shit if I want to.
Speaker 1:Well, you're on a podcast I would hope so for sure yeah, you need to go the audio equipment uh, whatnot? Section and buy a new boom, buy some new lights, buy a new video or audio processor so I can have that one back and give it to. I know what I'm getting joe for christmas man, I mean, that's the easiest all the time I'm gonna get him a lamp.
Speaker 2:I'm a Timu, I'm going to buy him like three lamps Three lamps. I'll only buy Timu.
Speaker 1:Only Timu shit for me bro, all right. Let's get into this match. That Joe was telling me about. What is up with this match? And off the tour truck, oh man Well so I was in a stream, uh.
Speaker 2:So I did a little streaming this weekend and we were doing our sunday stream. Uh, I guess, kind of in the last minute situation, we did one on saturday. We weren't planning on doing one on sunday, we had one scheduled for monday. It was, uh, sunday afternoon, we, to my wife and I tracy, we were packing boxes and I was like man, you know what, like I'm gonna, I'm going to, I'm going to stream. So I went into the office, I'm going to, I'm going to drink a beer, I'm going to stream, I'm going to kind of clean up my, my golf room and uh, you know if I sell a few things like whatever. So we're in there and um, uh, we're streaming and and there was a, I don't know, there was like a hundred. Uh, it's going pretty well and like I always like I think one of the cool things in the community like everybody always shouts everybody out and tells you to attack, go follow them and so, and like I've been paying attention, like I've been doing a lot of research and I'm doing some other stuff, but I got uh and uh.
Speaker 2:So off tour truck, who runs a great show, uh, brendan from off tour truck was a banger of a show selling just some super sick scotty cameron um stuff. I noticed, yeah, he was in the chat. I was like, oh, hey, off to a truck in the chat and I, I mean, I, I probably had a couple of beers in me, um, uh, nothing major, and I'm a jokester and dan no, so you guys are all jokesters, so, um, so I think I was like I I said something along the lines of, uh, like man, that guy's got some serious heat, like he's got some serious kind of games as I whoop your ass at golf, but you've got some serious stuff. I was just, I mean just kind of in a playful way. And next thing, you know, he's like, co-host me in right now, co-host me in. And I I've never met brandon, I don't know what kind of golfer he is, whatever, I've been on it. You know I've been, I've followed his shows, um, and I apparently I woke up a little. I woke up a bear, woke up a little bear, um, so we co-host him in.
Speaker 2:There's some pretty fun uh, chatter. And he's like, well, fuck, he's like we're gonna put your money where your mouth is. Let's play, let's play a match. He goes, I'll put up, let's play a thousand dollar match. He goes, we'll put up both. Put up a thousand bucks, he goes, I'll play you anywhere. And I was like. I was like, okay, well, I mean I got a lot of travel. I was like, but because I'll come there tomorrow, and I was like, well, I was like, unfortunately I can't do tomorrow, but yeah, we'll get all the books, like we'll get. And this is this was. You know, I've got to pay attention who the who the biggest sellers are on the app right now. I think I think in the golf side of things, take five is probably the the biggest. Uh, I think pretty sure I yeah, he's got 44,000 followers on the app.
Speaker 2:He's got 160,000 followers on Instagram. Obviously, he's doing some pretty awesome stuff. Don't think he's ever been to any of my shows. I've been on his streams, but Take 5 was in that show too. So at this point the chat's going pretty crazy. Like, oh, off to a truck versus tradition, like this is gonna be great. Uh, yeah, and he was talking some pretty heavy smack, which is totally cool. That's, that's awesome. Um, uh.
Speaker 2:And so take five was in the chat, or he was in the, in the stream, and he goes next thing. You know, he's like stream me in right now. And I was like, oh shit. I was like take five is in. Like take five is in my, is like in my stream right now. It's awesome. Like, let's stream him in. Uh, again, like I didn't know off to a truck's name obviously it's brandon, right, and I, you know, I, I know a little bit about take five. Um, uh, so I'm like, okay, that's awesome. And so he comes in and he's so we co-host him in. And uh, um, I and he's like, well, hey, I want to get behind. He's like this is awesome, this is great. He goes. I'll tell you what uh, I'm going to throw a thousand dollars in for the winner and he's like, if you guys can do it on either july 21st or 22nd, before I go to europe, um, I'll come down and I'll stream dirt fool the match.
Speaker 2:So we'd agreed that we were going to both, that brendan and I off to our truck, and just we were going to stream during the match, um, but we, uh, but so now take five is going to come down and stream as well. It sounds like we have a couple other guys coming into town. Uh, we had some brent and I had a long three-hour chat today. Uh, we've kind of decided to do it, to kind of go a little bit of a of a charity route with this one as well. So, uh, we're gonna raise money for the. I'm here in Houston, texas. We were not personally affected by the flood, so I don't want anybody to think about that. But between Brendan and a couple of guys who have this idea to raise some money for the flood victims over here, it's about an hour away from where Tracy and I live and we've gotten a lot of people to get on board with this. So we're going to play 18 hole stroke play match. It is going to be called the match. We'll have the poster out tomorrow. I think you're going to see it all over the app and over some over some socials. I think you guys will get a kick out of that. A little play on on the TNTs the match.
Speaker 2:We've got got in touch to EA carts. If you're not following EA carts on Instagram or seeing what they're doing with their influencer movement, I got to be a guest of theirs about a week ago up in New Jersey at the PJ Beams event. I talked to TJ Johnson, who's the CEO of EA carts. He's going to send down a couple of golf bikes, so we're both going to be riding their golf bikes. These are golf motorcycles you can golf on. They go about 25 miles an hour. So we'll have those. We're going to be streaming right from there um riding those. We've got um. I've got some special guests coming.
Speaker 2:I think we're going to do some.
Speaker 2:Uh, we're going to try to do some.
Speaker 2:We've got uh, we've already have sponsors, so we've got 500 sponsors for every um r3.
Speaker 2:So we'll do closest to the pin.
Speaker 2:We'll each close to the pins.
Speaker 2:And then a client of mine was on a stream today and he said he's gonna back uh, five hundred dollars for for a charity of my choice. So we've already done. We've already raised twenty five hundred dollars. Uh, we haven't even teed off yet. Um, which is awesome.
Speaker 2:Um and uh, we're gonna try to raise a bunch of money. We're gonna do giveaways during the show. We're trying trying to hopefully do one or two, a whole. We may do a little stream after the match as well, and then I think, if we can, we're going to try to just take the money over to that area and get with a charity and present them with the cash or a check the next day, on Tuesday. So we think this is going to be big, or a check the next day on Tuesday. So we think this is going to be big. We think that in the next 72 hours, some of the marketing and media that we're going to do, we can really turn this in. But, man, we've gotten great notes from a lot of the sellers on the app and a lot of the buyers on the app. I think it's going to be awesome. So he's very obsessed with trying to beat me by 20 strokes. He thinks he's trying to beat me by by 20 strokes.
Speaker 2:He thinks he's going to.
Speaker 1:He's going to be um you know have you heard anything about his golf game? Do you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I guess he's pretty good. He was assistant prof, uh, at a club in Ohio for a couple of years. Um, uh, everybody says he's a great golfer. Again, I've never, never played with him and uh, he could be a great golfer. I've never, never played with him and uh, he could be a great golfer. Um, you know, I I'm not telling, I'm not crowning myself, uh, uh, as the as, uh, I wouldn't crown myself as anything I'm.
Speaker 2:I, I'm a retired, uh, golf professional. Uh, not a golf pro. Um, I taught 60 yard ladies bunker clinics for a living. Uh, I could get around the golf course, uh, pretty good, I don't have a problem. But, um, you know, I, I get, I, I play, I play. I've been playing client golf for the last seven years. So, uh, you know, I don't really let a around a golf, whether it's 65, 75 or 85, uh, really ruin my life. So I don't really feel like I have a lot of risk here, right, I mean, I've got about four thousand dollars. I'm brand new to the app. I mean, I think the last thing that would happen. I mean, you don't really feel like I have a lot of risk here, right, I mean, I've got about 4,000 followers. I'm brand new to the app. I mean I think the last thing that would happen. I mean you don't want to lose to me, right? But I'm just kidding. Either way, it's going to be fun. I hope we both play some good golf, rob said.
Speaker 1:Rumor has, he's a plus two. Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2:That's cool. That's cool. I heard plus four. I don't know. I've never seen the guy's golf swing, never seen him play. He's not in gin so he's definitely not in gin. So there's no red or sure I'm a one. You can go look at my wild scoring history. It's interesting because I play a lot of my golf on the road right, so I'm always at a new golf course every day.
Speaker 1:That helps, that helps, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:So you wanted to come down. I'm a member at a course here in Houston so he wanted to do it there. It's a good golf versus fun, super playable. What course we're playing? Highland Pines. So talk to the pro. Today we're going to play at four o'clock four o'clock central time on July 21st, 18 holes stroke play match usga rules. He's very big on on the, so hey, that's fine.
Speaker 2:it was like it's like going to a goddamn us open qualifier on so, but hey, man, I'm game like uh, you know, um, I think he thinks I'm gonna shoot like 95, which that would be the first time.
Speaker 3:yeah, he's like if he shoots like 95, which that would be the first time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like if he shoots a 90 and 85, that'd be the first time since, like high school golf, so um 42, but um, I mean, if I'm getting close to 90, I'll just start hitting seven iron. But that would also. I also told him if I said, if I shoot 90, I'll play pickleball and bocce for the rest of my life. It's not happening, no, we'll have a good time. I think we can turn this into something great.
Speaker 2:I think this is going to be something cool. I think it could be also something bigger too. Right, we can get a lot of sellers. I think it'd be fun to have a you could turn. Well, look at what the match turned into, right, if you just look at that platform and I'm not saying we're tagloids or Phil Mickelson, and I'm not saying that we have that kind of pull in this world, but, like, we also have streaming and and this form of media is a big deal, right. So you know who knows what this could become down the road. But we're going to. We're going to go to the first one and we're going to hype it up.
Speaker 3:So I think it's fantastic for the app. I love it so much I hopefully can get down there. I did get cleared for sunday and monday perfect, I did get cleared, but dan is not clear.
Speaker 2:That's what we can figure out.
Speaker 3:We can figure out a way to get down here, so that's no one question. Can we play on tuesday?
Speaker 2:I'm looking at you play out yeah, absolutely 100. Or you play on sunday, so either one okay, so me and dan might fly out late anything here where I was invited to this I don't know everybody's invited everybody's.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you gotta get on whatnot bro, you gotta get on whatnot, oh jesus uncle church is coming um, you know um, and I'll tell you we'll see
Speaker 2:where this thing we'll see this evolves. I uh, we've got a couple of I don't want to, I don't want to advance, spoil some things, but we've got a couple of phone calls, uh to make tomorrow that I think could be really really cool and, uh, some big announcements over the next couple days and we got like two weeks to I'm a marketing guy, right. So we got two weeks to do this and I told brennan today. I said, hey, if we're gonna do this, we're gonna do it right, uh and uh. So we're about to see what, uh, what brown bear does when he puts his mind to something to make something really good.
Speaker 2:It's gonna be fun uh and he thinks that he thinks my world's gonna be ruined if I, if I have about a few minutes. No, I think this is gonna be good for everybody, so it's all all good. I'm the underdog too, which is fun. I don't get to be the underdog. Well, I'm usually laying strokes every time I play, so this was fun. I love it, man. Yeah, for sure I should have asked him for a couple of strokes aside. I guess We'll see.
Speaker 4:Yeah, with the way he's talking.
Speaker 2:I asked him today. I said how you away boy. You go look at him on instagram. Oh my god, I mean, he's like this is the. This is the battle of big versus little, for sure. And and he's got a super flat wrist at the top and I'm a little bit cuppy I was like we got the ball two different ways and I outweigh you by two linebackers everyone's swing is different.
Speaker 3:Everyone's got a different game bro and everybody gets the ball in the hole a different way, and there ain't nothing wrong with that. You know what I mean, and it's I. You know I'm always worried, weary of the people that talk a big game, so I'm so stoked for it. I think it's fantastic for the app, like and people are talking about it, which is awesome, and uh, I cannot, I can't wait. I hope I can get down there Cool.
Speaker 2:Well, you have a place to stay, we got a golf course to golf and we got some golf bikes and I think there's going to be some fun things, so looking forward to that. So appreciate you guys letting me come on and talk about that a little bit. Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Can't wait to follow along now. Follow TN Golf on Whatnot. Can I?
Speaker 3:ask you what's the streaming theory? Is it people streaming it on Whatnot?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I've been thinking about that a little bit. I think we should probably put some good minds together. Obviously, if we all were, if everybody was streaming, what is that?
Speaker 1:There's a platform out right now. It's a golf live streaming platform. A couple people have sent me messages. I'll I'll look, find out what that was, because there's a. It's basically a. It's designed for golf, to live stream golf matches oh, that's cool uh well, you should totally.
Speaker 2:Well, let me know if you find out what that is, because that sounds amazing. I know that brennan is going to stream on his, so we've got. The cool thing about the golf bikes from ea bikes is like they should have a cell phone holder, like a charging cell phone holder on the bike, so you can yeah you can clip your thing on there and your phone will charge at that time so we can stream live.
Speaker 2:So I think definitely the plan is for us to stream on our channels, um, and then take five streaming, obviously, uh, so you kind of got the match going from. You know three different angles. If you will, uh, we're gonna talk to uh, I guess, yeah yeah, we're talking to the camera crew tomorrow, hopefully we can get.
Speaker 2:So hopefully we get like a big streamer there so we can have like a mega platform or at least some some video where we can get a big streamer there, so we can have a mega platform or at least some video where we can clip it down and do some cool stuff for that. So yeah, working on things. You guys asked great questions. This is what I told Brennan today. I said we've got to figure out the details because I want this to be really good. I'm a detail guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's going to be good regardless on this. So I think what? I think it would be great if whatnot like could push everything to one area, like the golf match, you know, like it's at the top of everyone's feed and whoever's like live at the match would be great. Or it's just like. It's just like the whatnot golf, because I see this being future, thoughtful, right, like it can happen again.
Speaker 3:So it's like if whatnot created anybody that follows anyone on golf, like there is the match whatnot page and everybody's auto following somebody, right, and I know this could be a thought to go into future dates. But, like because it it is going to be big and it could be even bigger in the future, right, because this shit ain't stopping, bro, like it is growing every day. So many of like the people that I've had as supporters of my brands are like sending me shit now to sell on the platform. It's not going away. So if there's one central spot for like something as big as this, like if they could create an area, I agree, where everybody sees it you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I think I think somebody's already reached out to the whatnot golf group about about this, and so I think we have some more conversations ahead in the next couple of days. Um, and I agree, I think that's a great idea. I don't know how that works in the platform, but yeah, we definitely.
Speaker 3:Jeremy might know.
Speaker 2:Jeremy, do you know?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's a software engineer.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, Okay, awesome According to is there a way you can write me a code so I can get a golf game between that, because he doesn't think I have it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, let me see if I can put that together, because I need it as well.
Speaker 2:You can have friends at high places. That's great I can't wait to watch that. July 21st.
Speaker 3:So Dan, there's no way you can take off Sunday, the 20th.
Speaker 4:It's Summer League. Sorry, I say it's.
Speaker 1:Summer League, I would have to leave that night. 20th, it's Summer League, summer State, summer League.
Speaker 4:You can't even hear the golf tournament. I would have to leave that night or early Monday morning.
Speaker 2:Well, the match isn't until 4 o'clock Eastern Time, so you left early morning.
Speaker 3:So I got to find a way to get Tuesday off and we got to make it back to Vegas by 8.30 pm to jump on the podcast.
Speaker 4:We got to do a rodeo trip.
Speaker 3:And then we also have to play around a golf Tuesday morning, go to the airport, come back for the podcast. We can work on it, that's easy. That's pretty easy. We gain two hours. Ih is one of the largest airports in the country.
Speaker 2:My man and you gain two hours going that way as a flight to Vegas in 20 minutes.
Speaker 3:Add two kids. Add two kids that go to school and a wife that works. That's the hard part, sure.
Speaker 2:You guys have a lot more responsibilities than me. I can't even get my dog to hang out near with me right now. My wife has been sitting across from me the entire time watching the show. I would love Hi Tracy, hey Tracy, I think she's. I have to.
Speaker 3:I have to leave for the airport and for I know you're going to Palm Springs, I know, but I can.
Speaker 2:I can do this all night, so I don't care, I'll figure it out. I haven't even packed my bag yet, but it's just shorts and t-shirts and golf shirts are you playing anywhere in palm springs?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, so we'll play a bunch.
Speaker 2:Uh, I think we tomorrow we play, we land and we play nicholas. Uh, it's only going to be 113 degrees when we land, so it should be good. Uh, we got a 3, 30 t time at nicholas course at pga west and then, uh, I think, uh, let's see third. So thursday or the thursday we were supposed to play the Vintage, but they are totally all the super private clubs are doing all of their summer maintenance right now, so we have a lot of access. We're staying at a beautiful house, a buddy's house, at the Tradition golf course. There we stay on the 12th floor Tradition sick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but unfortunately that's also in major. I can tell you what so bad that both of the pros are like dude, you can come out and play if you guys want to, but the greens are going to be running a five right, because they're doing all their summer maintenance Just don't tell anybody?
Speaker 2:Yeah right. So those clubs, those members, aren't in town this time of year, so we're playing a few oddballs we got like. So, thursday, I think, we're doing Desert Will uh, desert willow, I think, in the morning maybe, and then, yeah, fun course. And then back to the best community in america, pgos mountain. There's very few golfers right now. You gotta really pick and choose right now if you're going out to the desert, because everybody's doing punching and stuff like that. So, yeah. But we are playing, uh, 36 holes at Big Horn on Friday, and then I can't remember our Saturday.
Speaker 2:So we're going 18, 36, 36, 36 and then hitting the road, so pretty brave.
Speaker 1:Please drink a lot of water.
Speaker 2:We've got some 7 am tea time and we've got some 3 o'clock tea time, so those 3 o'clock tea times with 1.30 is going to be a little bit rough.
Speaker 1:I played a course called the springs last time I was there. That was like so under just not known like old money palm springs, that it's close to the madison club um, not as fancy, of course, but uh man it was it was amazing, there's some really good golf down there, yeah I'm really golfing in a bubble.
Speaker 2:So it's awesome. And we have this wild group that just loves to go to the hottest place on earth for five days in July. It's a cheap golf trip and we eat Del Taco and play golf all day.
Speaker 3:There you go, thumber. There you go, thumber. Go to the hottest place on earth in the middle of the summer, when I started the breakfast ball.
Speaker 1:I wanted to do something crazy, and so we did. Um, we went in July to death Valley and played the course out there, Furnace Creek, Crazy yeah. And the first year we did it to raise money for Southern, uh, the, the, what's the, the, the the it's the.
Speaker 1:It's the GA, no, it's the Gosh darn it. First T, first T, first T is Southern Nevada. So we raised like 600 bucks for them. Awesome, and everybody kind of like thought it was a cool idea. And we played four rounds of golf and the hottest, we were the only ones on the golf course and they let us just play as much as we wanted and we did four rounds. It was me and a buddy Unbelievable. We did four rounds. It was an absolute blast. How hot was it? 116 was the hottest. It got to All right.
Speaker 1:So the funny thing is, because we stayed the night, the lodge hooked us up to let us stay there and so we woke up in the morning. It's pitch black. It was like 78 degrees outside and like 88 degrees. Um, we go to the course and and the unique thing about at furnace creek course is there's a water table underneath the golf course. So all the water, they, they water all night long and it all drains into the water table. They let the, they let the course dry out all day long and at night they pump the water back up. That's how they keep it green and it's not really green, it's like greeny.
Speaker 1:Um, so the the third round was the hottest it got. It was like 116 and we're like this was awesome, we had a blast. We're gonna do it next year. So we book it again next year. Um, I got the wounded warriors on vault. My dad, former military, I reached out to a lot of his friends, we raised it was like three grand, something like that Awesome. And I had four of my me and three of my buddies. We're going to go back is Death Valley Challenge 2. We're going to play 81 holes. We're going to break our old record. We're going to play four rounds and nine holes, right, so we do the same thing. We drive out there, it's middle july, heat wave, and we wake up in the morning 5, 30, it's black. We go outside, it's 112. Oh, my god. And I went oh fuck, yeah, yeah. So the hottest it got that day was 132. Holy shit, yeah, that that wow. And did you play 81 holes? We know that we played 76. Then they turned the water on and and we had to leave that's amazing.
Speaker 2:And nobody fell out. No, everybody made it oh, dude, it was.
Speaker 1:It was rough at some points, but yeah, it's it was.
Speaker 2:It was amazing that's like you, like the day. You're like the david goggins golf. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't make it, no, no. Don't even give him that title, bro, don't give him that title, that's bananas, but it was so much fun and that course is so unique and Jeremy was just in Death Valley so he knows what, what the, how weird it is down there, but it's, it's a convection oven.
Speaker 1:You know it's, it's a convection oven. You know it's, it's the. The airflow is just like this in that Valley and so you're going down the hole and the wind is coming from behind you and you turn the corner and you're coming back. I'm like, oh, I'm hitting into the wind, and then it's a crosswind and and then sometimes you'd hit a ball, and as soon as we'd get above the trees, it like move like 30 yards. It's wild down there. We lost. Jeremy, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:So can I ask you one last question? Obviously you guys got any good golf trips coming up the rest of the year. You guys ain't going anywhere exciting and anything you look forward to.
Speaker 1:Yes, we are, yeah, we're going to Arizona, to Payson Arizona.
Speaker 4:That's not booked yet, though.
Speaker 1:We need to finalize that, yeah, I need to do that soon, soon, uh, we're playing chaparral pines and the ridge sweet. And then, jeremy, uh, joe and I are going to nebraska jeremy and jeremy that's what I said jeremy joe did. I say damn yeah yeah, jeremy joe and I are going with a buddy of ours To go play Landman and what's the other one we're playing. Prairie Club.
Speaker 2:What a trip, what a trip.
Speaker 1:First, gilhance Valley, neal.
Speaker 2:If you need a Valley Neal hookup, oh, don't even do that.
Speaker 4:There you go.
Speaker 1:That's what.
Speaker 4:I told you guys you need to try to get out there on your way back to Denver.
Speaker 3:Guys, we need to do it Like four hours after our last round Shit.
Speaker 2:I'll be tough to squeeze Ballet Neal in. If you have to find a window and you need assistance, just let me know we got some.
Speaker 2:Might just have to skip that last day, dude Doke is fantastic Valley, neal is bananas and I have not done Landman or Prairie Club, and I know they're both amazing but, Valley Neal is like it's a banger, that's what I've heard it is a banger, Wow look at that we haven't done a two-hour, two hours show in forever a while a couple of great, a couple of great trips to look forward to.
Speaker 2:That's the most fun. That's probably one of the most fun things about golf trip right, just the anticipation looking looking for oh yeah, talking to it all the time right wearing your wife out about it, like I'm just so excited. Aren't you excited about our baby? No, I'm excited about going golfing with the boys honestly I say it all the time.
Speaker 3:It's like you have to and it's it's comparative to life. Like you have to have something to look forward to in life, right, whether it's raising your kids or a great steak that you bought that you're going to cook tonight, and golf trips, if you plan them in the future. Like it's something to look forward to and strive for, and push every day to bring yourself closer to that moment. And then, when it's done, you got to book another one and then you look forward to it. You know like I'm so down with golf trips, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Always got to have a golf trip on the next man.
Speaker 3:That's my speaking of that, speaking of that, we could depart Monday, july 21st, at five 10 from uh harry reed mccarran airport, we'd arrive at 10 10 and we could.
Speaker 3:We could leave houston at 7 25 and get back home at 8 35. The monday in and out. We don't see you down. Are you down? I I think katie's off on tuesdays, so because for the podcast my wife is off on tuesdays for the podcast. Are you down? If I think katie's off on tuesdays, so because for the podcast my wife is off on tuesdays for the podcast, are you down, if I can?
Speaker 1:go confirm it right now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's not talking to me. I wasn't well, yeah but let me confirm tomorrow with work and stuff all right price might go up price might go up.
Speaker 3:You better swipe me 12 hours I already set my custom limit.
Speaker 4:Fuck that swipe button, it gets you in trouble.
Speaker 1:All right. So last thing I want to get into, and it's like two hours at the end of the episode. No one's going to be listening to this, but I'm going to do it anyways, because I could always put it in there.
Speaker 1:So we last month we had the giveaway where Hesherhack won the driver, and so I kind of want to keep on doing the giveaways, but I don't know what to give away. So I've got two options here and the first one, and I don't know if I want to do this, but I'm thinking I'm going to do it. So we got an Odyssey Jailbird Plumber's Neck or CH Crank Neck, the custom LA Golf Special Edition with a Golf Pride reverse taper grip, so we can do that as the giveaway this month. Or I have this this is from the Lance Reader episode when we had him on from Crank Golf. This is the newest crank driver that just came out. The Bryson driver. This is the.
Speaker 1:Bryson driver. Well his is a little different. His has about six degrees less of loft than this does. So this has a Motari Fujikara shaft Stargrip and I mean the head cover is pretty sick for a crank. So leave a comment on this video on YouTube. Let us know what you want us to give away and whatever gets the most votes, that's what we'll do. Joe's not even listening. He's booking points.
Speaker 2:Joe's on the phone with United right now. How many points do I have?
Speaker 1:He's selling right now. Look at him.
Speaker 3:Thumper in the chat. He said Levi was co-hosting with Caddy Boji. He's a caddy out in New York, New York right.
Speaker 4:Camera.
Speaker 3:Jj yeah but Levi, he's holding true to your pick bro. Shut up 4Rite, 4rite91. At 4Rite91 on the whatnot app, that's not 4Rite. A legend out for it, here crank scott's saying dude, I love that guy's show.
Speaker 4:He's got like he's fucking funny. You're fucking funny as shit. Scott, I love watching your show. You got like this dry humor, you're one.
Speaker 1:Kill me, bro.
Speaker 3:Give away scotty or some lefty clubs. No, uh, dude scout, for it's the man dude, he's fucking funny. He makes me laugh, den caddy I'll give away a den caddy yeah hey, I do have a dead candy coming, because everybody asks for fucking den caddies. I got one all the time, all the time you got a den caddy. You got a seven wood. You got a nine wood. You got a 11 wood, you got a 7-wood.
Speaker 2:You got a 9-wood you got a 11-wood, you got a 20-wood, you got a lab, you got a grips.
Speaker 4:You got a Scotty. You got a Scotty LA Golf driver.
Speaker 3:For sure Any Nike clubs.
Speaker 4:Any TaylorMade ZT Spiders.
Speaker 3:For sure, let me show it to you Chad. Let me show it to you Chad Nike clubs I chat. Let me show it to you, chat, nike clubs you want.
Speaker 2:I think you can literally launch a show that says everything that you asked for everything you asked for in the show. Do you have a lefty ladies ninewood?
Speaker 3:absolutely, do, absolutely believe it or not, do well that's also. We're gonna run out of buck we're gonna run out of. At one point it might intertwine with youtube. Who knows, the future is unpredictable.
Speaker 1:Is running at a buck, even like does it have any value? Yeah, that's a great question because every I I'm starting this at a dollar chat and it's like bid, bid, bid 300.
Speaker 4:It's like so you didn't start it at a dollar I will say this you technically did, but I will say this sometimes you can snooze, you can catch people snoozing on that timer, especially if it's like a five second or ten second or usually five second or three second sudden death like. There's been times where I've people just fall asleep and I picked up a brand new dozen pro v1x. Twice it's happened, or I've paid under 20 for brand new, brand new pro v1.
Speaker 3:So oh, there's, there's moments you.
Speaker 4:You can get lucky with the one dollar stars, but chances are. You know, if you have 200, 300 viewers in your room and you can start at a dollar, they're still going to bid it up to what the price is going to be. You know you got 30 people in the room, then you can probably eat. You're probably gonna eat shit on that item.
Speaker 2:For sure. I think it's definitely a scary concept with a low street People just let it work.
Speaker 3:Kevin is actually 100% correct.
Speaker 4:Spent way too much fucking money this month.
Speaker 3:No, there's been moments where I'd run something and I was like I need $80 out of this and I'll run it. I'll start at 80 and somebody buys it for 80. And then there's moments where I'm like, okay, I need 80 out of this. I'm gonna start as a at a dollar and we'll see what happens. And it goes for 94. You know, it's like it's the swipe bro, it's.
Speaker 2:It's a genius idea for sure and I know you guys are I'm not a tiktoker, I don't do tiktok me neither. I don't do tiktok but I tiktok shop and I was telling down. This tiktok shop is a way bigger platform than than whatnot, right and those are all. Those are all fixed fixed prices right so and there's clearly sellers in there doing, doing plenty of work, right.
Speaker 1:So here on tiktok though, uh, so yeah, so it's a it's.
Speaker 2:This is a different form. It's an interesting form. I don't know what, if, what, the you know I think it's a great analytics study if you study it for six months, right, I mean I mean I was telling dan about this like I've been paying a lot of attention to metrics, uh on whatnot, I think, and that's how you have to approach it if you're going to really make it a business. Uh, you know what, where your margins are, what your, um, you know what sells what, what put, but what, what puts butts in the seat, right, what gets people in the back, what, where you know you might going to lose on things, right, but I mean, anybody's in business to lose, uh, on things. But so it's really trying to finding what that honey hole item no.
Speaker 2:No I.
Speaker 3:I'm curious. I'm curious on your thought about this, matt. Right Like you've had a brand right, so you've had tradition golf.
Speaker 2:Well, tradition, golf is new. I've had the tradition, but the tradition.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's our new brand. Yeah, for sure, so yeah.
Speaker 3:But you've had logos made.
Speaker 2:You're good.
Speaker 3:You're good to go.
Speaker 3:I've had my brand for four or five years, something like that I've been doing things right and I think I think a lot of like whatnot now is like people think they can just come in and create a brand, right, right, so we have the brand like I have. I have homies that have bought every single thing I've ever dropped for the last five years so I can come into it and I can bring them to the platform and they'll, they'll, they'll swipe for me, they'll, they'll go on to other shows that I recommend because they trust me. You know what I mean, and I think people that come on the platform and I will tell this to you truthfully because I'm an honest guy if you're not ready to take the leap like, build your brand, you have to have a brand. That's what whatnot is.
Speaker 3:There's a brand, there's, there's somebody that's in front of the camera that you relate to, and they'll, they'll, they have a brand. Be a brand. It's all about brand. It's all about brand. I can sell you a club I bought for a dollar from Goodwill and you'll buy it for 10.
Speaker 3:And if I tell you, I like it, you know it's. It's it's brand, it's a brand.
Speaker 2:Well, I think you it's a brand. Well, I think you and I'll send you guys all this podcast that I think everybody should listen to, and if you're curious on on whatnot, I'll send it to you guys. And if you can add it in the chat, send it the best 20 minutes. And Dan, I think I sent it to Dano tonight so maybe he can he can forward it to you. It's the best 20 minutes to listen to. And, gary, it's a. You can't, there's not going to be.
Speaker 2:you know, to be a Peter Millar, to be a, to be a, a row back to be a to be a and then you've got that next layer of you know, breezy, and and, and, good, good and and and you know, and then you've got upcoming brands Malbon and Red Vanley and stuff like that. That's a really hard thing to do about branding yourself, but I think what, what this is going to become and I'll tell you. You'll hear it on the, on the podcast, and I couldn't agree with it more. But, like the brand, it's not going to be about what's being sold and who's buying it, it's going to be about who's selling it Exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, you're for sure you are the brand selling it in the end, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, you're for sure, you are the brand. You are the brand, right, and and it's amazing and we were talking about this before the show started like you know, some guys, some, some shows are harder to watch than others. Right, I mean, you gotta uh, but they also have people in them and there are people who who like that stuff, and that's totally cool and that that's the interesting thing about the world and us as human beings, like somebody likes to sit on the other side of the phone and get yelled at, or people like watching a crazy show, you know, with stuff going on. So, yeah, you're right, you're finding your spot.
Speaker 2:That's why there's seven channels of daytime TV, right, and it's why you watch. You know when you watch this news instead of that news, right? So, yeah, you got to build that, so I told you I said it on my podcast or said it on my stream the other night, but I won't be the black Jim Nance of whatnot.
Speaker 3:Tradition is the logo guy.
Speaker 4:I shot my shot.
Speaker 2:I shot my shot. Jim Nance, I'm coming for you.
Speaker 3:I'm coming for that seat, baby.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be the top, so let's go. He's the logo guy. You need a logo.
Speaker 3:That's where you go. You go to tuition golf. He called it out and there's nothing wrong with that and I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:Props real quick to your wife a master's patron chair in our front hallway staring at me in the. I was she's and I'm not allowed to put the camera on her. And she sat in this master's patron chair like she's been sitting on the 18th green augusta for two hours. No pimento cheese sandwich, not a whole year just unbelievable two hours and 10 minutes Shout out, Tracy Shout out. Tradition golf wife. Tradition golf wife on the app.
Speaker 3:Give her a call.
Speaker 2:I've been telling my wife I'm like you might need to create an account soon Just to monitor us.
Speaker 1:We all need live 360 for us, for our right right. Joe used to have. Joe used to have the parents come over to watch the kids so he can go play golf.
Speaker 3:Now he's having to come over so he can sell no, no, no, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna interrupt my entire life to sell on whatnot I will not.
Speaker 2:I will say you guys are much more disciplined about cutting your, cutting your streams. Uh, shorter than me. I just I'll just go.
Speaker 3:Hey, that's what's great, though, bro, like you. That's the whole thing, bro. It's exciting. You never know what'll pop up next. You never know it might be a. It might be abandoned flag. You might see abandoned flag run some way. Maybe we'll swipe. You know who knows and you also never know like what flag somebody wants yeah, for sure, the flag game has been interesting.
Speaker 2:I have a massive collection of flags, um. So I appreciate you guys, you know, grabbing some of them. Man, I've run, and I mean I've just run my, I have run my mini heat, like I know. There I have another hundred. That are the the ones you really, really want. I'm just trying to debate if I want to part with them or not.
Speaker 2:But uh we've got some, uh, we've called in some favors, so we've got some cool ones coming, so I'm excited about about that. Uh, trying to source product right now is a little bit it's hard, it's hard.
Speaker 3:Well, it's tough to start.
Speaker 2:Right, I didn't think anything about you know, uh, I didn't long, I thought it was one and done so, yeah, yeah, working on some cool stuff. So, but motivated by everything that you guys been doing, motivated by your guys support, um, you guys are awesome dude. I love you guys. I love it. I shot out chasing daylight in my uh in my streams probably more than nice to do, no, no, I don't have any grips.
Speaker 2:So um. I know I have been uh begging to come on your show for a long time now, so I appreciate y'all uh bringing me on. Man, I appreciate very much anytime, anytime, anytime, anytime. So thank you, you guys are, you guys are doing something great in golf. It's awesome. I'm 100 behind it, so keep doing that, you may know this.
Speaker 1:Does anybody know anybody who has a non-profit for youth sports teams? Or point me in the right directions to start one non-profit for youth sports teams.
Speaker 2:There's a guy who's a follower of mine is uh, he's cop osu. Uh, he's in vegas right now. Actually, he's got his. Uh, he's got a junior. Uh, he's from ohio. I've talked to him on the phone a couple times. I don't know. I'll ask him. I don't know if this is a non-profit or not, but it's a cool idea.
Speaker 3:I will say most of the firsties take adult clubs, they sell them and then they take the money and they buy youth clubs or pay for trips to Hawaiiaii for the board members yeah, oh, I'm sorry did I say that out loud, I'm sorry, yeah, no, probably true.
Speaker 1:That's why there's no first t of southern nevada anymore really there's not.
Speaker 2:No, no, wow, what a huge golf market not to have a first corruption snjga is out here now, that's yeah did he get shut down? Was there some problems?
Speaker 1:dude it was. It was like I said that's why I didn't do that fundraiser for them the second year, because it was like communicating with, like somebody on aol. It was like can you give me any information? Tell me how much money we raised? Tell me where I can send the money? To tell me, you know? And it took like probably three months for them to say, oh, just mail it to the office. I want to know what this is going to. I want to know where you're going to use it for. Give me something so I can promote this. And yeah, it was. It was bad.
Speaker 4:Yeah, hey, kev, just to, just to answer your question. Yeah, yeah, yeah, um there, um one comes to mind would be youth, on course, yeah, um, I know that pga junior league pga.
Speaker 3:Pga junior league um stuff like that or cut them down and hand them to somebody that is showing interest in golf. I've done that to my child.
Speaker 1:The other thing too you can reach out to, like the golf course that you go to and just talk to one of the teachers out there, cause more than likely they have a group of kids that they teach. And a good way to get in touch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, first thing I'd say for first year, that is a great, I mean first T and most of them, like anywhere that I've been, you know virtues are awesome, but you guys are spot on the pj junior league. They are making major waves in junior golf.
Speaker 2:So and it's a really cool avenue for kids to get into golf so, yep, my daughter played for a couple years nice though I thought when I saw the team jerseys when they first started pj junior, this is goofy, this will never work, and now and then, but it worked because kids love that stuff.
Speaker 1:They love it.
Speaker 2:They love seeing their name on the back of the thing. That program exploded Super cool. Wish they would have had that when we were kids.
Speaker 4:Here's a Wilson blade free iron.
Speaker 2:I cut down with a steel jab.
Speaker 4:Good luck kid.
Speaker 1:I wrapped a baseball grip around it. Here you go.
Speaker 3:No, seriously. I mean, if you guys have kids or any kids around you, like, just put a club in their hand. It could be plastic, it could be whatever it is. Like, just put it in their hands, they'll find it at one point. Everybody finds golf at some point in their hands. They'll find it at one point. Everybody finds golf at some point in their life. So start them early. Whether that be a plastic club, like it's the best, bro, I will live and die for that. I wish I found it earlier in my life and had that same respect that I do now for it when I was younger. But now I I get it. It's the best.
Speaker 2:Yes, couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1:All right, let's wrap this up. Matt. Thank you so much for coming on. I know you got a flight. Uh, when's your next show? Are you going to do a show between now and the 21st?
Speaker 2:Uh yeah, we'll do something. I don't have anything scheduled, but we'll do something early next week, An evening, Tuesday or Wednesday probably. It'll probably be Tuesday.
Speaker 1:Perfect, so everybody go bookmark that show.
Speaker 2:Nothing to bookmark, yet when it pops up.
Speaker 1:Joe, I'm sure Friday night right.
Speaker 3:I try and go Friday night. I'll be on.
Speaker 1:I don I mean a lot of time, but I was sitting around waiting for the fourth of july show. It never happened.
Speaker 3:I was a little disappointed no, we, we do that to build the bookmarks for the next show super smart I know but it was friday night and and you didn't come on I if were you on the thursday night show. I said I can't be on tomorrow night, I have to work, so bookmark the next show.
Speaker 1:You pop one of those little pop bones when I'm in bed.
Speaker 4:Dog walk whatnot talks?
Speaker 3:I did do a dog walk. Whatnot talks. I know you did. That was sick, though I know you did that was sick.
Speaker 4:Thanks.
Speaker 1:Brandon appreciate it. Thanks for hanging out two hours thanks, thumper 40 minutes is a long time for real.
Speaker 4:This was. This was a good one. We haven't, I haven't. This is the longest podcast I've ever been a part of yeah, we haven't.
Speaker 1:I mean the the old uh rankings episodes went long, but uh, I feel like Joe Rogan right now this may be a great, somebody get a psychiatrist on real quick. Where's a psychiatrist.
Speaker 4:Yeah, next year.
Speaker 2:You guys want me to send you a pizza with pineapple and jalapenos on it.
Speaker 1:Pineapple and anchovies. This episode brought to you by Better Health. Thanks everybody, Better Health Shout out mushrooms.
Speaker 3:Better Health Shout out mushrooms. Mushrooms Shout out mushrooms.
Speaker 1:We can't see that, Joe, because there's no light on it.
Speaker 2:Seriously, get that man a lamp.
Speaker 4:Is that your CBD mushrooms?
Speaker 2:I'm going to put that as a buy it now item in my shop.
Speaker 4:Buy Joe a lamp. Bless Joe with a lamp.
Speaker 1:He's doing good tonight. He's normally like this hey, what's up everybody? This is normally what his shit looks like. Joe, we've been live on YouTube for a year and a half now. Can you get the fucking mic out of your face, Guys?
Speaker 3:I am who I am. I am face, Guys. I am who I am. I am who I am, alright.
Speaker 1:I am who I am. Alright, I am who I am. Wrap it up, let's get the hell out of here.
Speaker 3:Guys, thank you for tuning in. Hey guys, hey guys, thanks for tuning in to this week's podcast man. What a great one. Guys, go follow at Tradition Golf doing great things on the platform whatnot which we've been talking so much about in recent weeks. Bookmark his shows, bookmark my shows. Follow at Hittin' Greens there's a match coming up off Tour Truck when you at they're playing against each other. Support the ones that support you. Check us out every single tuesday night at 8 30 pm, pacific standard time that's west coast time. On youtube we're live every single week, without a doubt. Um, and go back into the backlogs, go back to the archives. We've had a lot of people on this show and, uh, they spit knowledge. So, uh, we're here for you, we love this game and, uh, if you're new, we welcome you. If you're old, what up, homie, we'll see you on the next one. Until then, catch you later. Thank you, bye.
