335: Golf's Latest Controversies: From Costco Putters to YouTube Golfer Drama

When does a golf obsession cross the line into absurdity? This week, we explore the curious case of driver aesthetics – why golfers fixate on colors they'll never see during actual play. Dan shares his jaw-dropping 272-yard hole-out for double eagle at Boulder Creek, leading to a spectacular seven-under round, while Matt recounts his hole-out for Eagle at Red Rock Country Club.

The equipment world is buzzing with controversies. We dissect the unauthorized appearance of premium Lab putters at Costco, raising questions about brand dilution versus market expansion. Meanwhile, Callaway's all-black "Night Edition" driver has Dan practically drooling, sparking a heated debate about whether club aesthetics genuinely impact performance or merely feed our psychological need for visually appealing gear.

Perhaps most fascinating is YouTube golf star Grant Horvat declining his PGA Tour invitation to the Barracuda Championship after being told he couldn't bring his film crew. This decision highlights the growing tension between traditional golf and content creation, with the guys offering contrasting perspectives on whether Horvat made the right call.

With the Open Championship at beautiful Royal Portrush upon us, we share our predictions for golf's final major of the year and debate whether hometown favorite Rory McIlroy can handle the immense pressure. The episode wraps with our popular "All In or Fold" segment, featuring Jeremy's stance against golf course misbehavior and a heartwarming discussion about the golf community's remarkable charitable efforts for recent flood victims.

Don't miss this episode that perfectly captures the intersection of golf's timeless traditions and its rapidly evolving modern landscape. Join us as we continue chasing daylight and exploring everything that makes this game so captivating.

Transcript

Matt 0:17

Welcome. Welcome to the Chasing Daylight Podcast. What is?

Speaker 2 0:34

up everybody, welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast, starting the show off with a little feeding the ducks for everybody. It's been a while since we played the ducks. Yeah, enjoy the smooth sounds as we transition into a golf podcast. Episode 3, 35. That's crazy, yeah, and we have quite a bit to talk about this evening. Callaway, let me get my little one down here. Callaway came out with their night edition, elite Night Edition driver, which Dan is incredibly giddy about. Apparently, costco is selling lab putters. Yeah, wow, what.

Speaker 3 1:17

Really, yeah, you didn't see that Wow.

Speaker 4 1:20

Right next to the Kirklands.

Speaker 2 1:24

Grant Horvat. A little controversy with him. Today in the Barracuda, it's Open Week, the last major of the year.

Matt 1:36

It's here, let's see Dan. Another Albie.

Speaker 2 1:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah that shit was sick, I knocked off Red Rock Country Club. So I am down to Summit and the new win, and this weekend the VGN is at Chimera and then at the end of the show we'll do this.

Matt 1:59

All in or fold. Ai voice for that.

Speaker 4 2:04

Hey that got better, that got better AI. Voice for that. That got better, that got better AI voice for that ass.

Speaker 2 2:10

It's progressing, we're slowly getting better at that stuff.

Speaker 2 2:14

That'll be later on the show. Thanks everybody so much. If you're tuning in to us live, only on YouTube right now we're not doing it anywhere else but on YouTube. So if you want to catch us live, this is the place to be. I know we have a lot of Instagram followers. It's just another app and you're on YouTube anyways if you're a golf fan because you're watching golf content. So thanks so much for being here. Special thanks to the Golf Stop War's Golf Las Vegas Golf Superstore and Scott Russo from Under In Law for allowing us to use that intro song. And that's what do you guys want to get into? First off, there's kind of a. Let's talk about the double eagle.

Speaker 5 2:51

Yeah.

Speaker 2 2:51

Okay, let's. Yeah, dan, sir, the floor is your Oops wrong one. Oops wrong one. Oops wrong one. I don't know why it's all black Tractor you're out.

Matt 3:05

There one oh wrong one.

Speaker 4 3:06

I don't know why it's all black directory. You're out there, we go all right. There. It is there, we go, okay.

Speaker 4 3:09

So first off, I started off the day extremely late. I woke up to missed calls from colby foster and trey. Oh, literally called me 10 minutes for we're supposed to ta off. So I woke up, hauled ass down to boulder creek. By the time I get there they're on hole three. Oh wow, jump right out of the cart, literally right out of the cart. Say what's up, ask the number, hit my shot, make a 30 footer for birdie bang, start off the hole. One under birdie the next hole bang. Two under par, the next Par, the next hole. My fourth hole, hole six par five.

Speaker 4 3:48

Hit a good drive down the right side, just went through the fairway, had a slight downhill angle in the rough, had 272 in Good angle of the flag, took out my 17 degree and hit a really solid shot. It was about 10 feet right of the flag flag and it just was going right towards the flag, landed just short of the green and we're on the fairway me, trey, colby. We're all standing five feet from each other and we're watching it from the fairway just screaming go in, go in, go in and next thing you know the ball disappeared. Foster was about 30, was about 30 yards in front of us. He turns around and he's like it's in. We all went nuts in the fairway. We drove up there.

Speaker 3 4:32

How many yards was it?

Speaker 4 4:34

272 yards away.

Speaker 3 4:36

A hole out from 272 yards.

Speaker 4 4:40

Out of the rough, out of the rough.

Speaker 2 4:43

It's crazy out there, but it's still not the fairway.

Speaker 4 4:45

It was a good line. The rough the grain was going with me, but yeah, it wasn't like deep rough or nothing like that.

Speaker 3 4:51

Who cares about the rough? It was 272 yards.

Speaker 2 4:54

Oh, I know it was nuts. That adds to the level of difficulty to it Wow.

Speaker 4 5:00

Yeah yeah, insane, and it was yeah. And then it was just on from there, like I was five under after four and I just kind of I didn't make any mistakes, I didn't. I didn't play all 18 holes. I played 16 holes, I shot seven under and I didn't make one bogey. So it was uh, it was one of those rounds so you did.

Speaker 3 5:16

Did you have the like uh thought to go play the first three holes to like see what would happen?

Speaker 4 5:23

I, I thought about it. I thought about going to one and two and uh, my buddy sammy was working in the shop. I'm sure we could have worked it out, but honestly, it was also about 105 at that point, yeah, yeah, and I had to go to work too. We got off the golf course, like at. It was like 10, 40, 11 o'clock. I had to go to work at one. So I was just like you know what fuck it I'm just gonna get out of here. I won't count it, but mentally, mentally, I knew what I did oh yeah yeah

Speaker 2 5:47

yeah that's awesome. Yeah, that's so amazing. Congratulations. Yeah, it was nuts.

Speaker 4 5:52

It was nuts, thanks maddie speaking of, speaking of congratulations and hole outs matt, mine wasn't as impressive it doesn't matter a whole lot to hold up impressive.

Speaker 2 6:01

uh, we didn't actually see it going home. We didn't know until we got up to the green. Uh, it was my first time playing red rock. Uh, julian and I played it after we worked on saturday. Uh, big matt joined us for the front nine and then, uh, it was the 14th hole, so uphill little, not really much of a dog leg uh, but uphill shot, hit a good drive, had 130 in and hit it. I mean it was as soon as it left the club, it was dead at the flag and Julian's like that has a chance, that has a chance. And so we drive up there and we see one ball on the back fringe and I'm like I don't think I hit it that far. So, yeah, sure enough, walked up and it was in. So, and I'm like I don't think I hit it that far. So, yeah, sure enough, walked up and it was in. So that was a couple of hole outs for the boys over the weekend.

Speaker 2 6:51

That's awesome, the first time I played Red Rock and it's July and a lot of courses are beat up. I wasn't expecting much, but the green complexes out there are fantastic. There's tons of undulation. I mean those, those grid, they break and they move and the mountain seriously, you know, has an effect on it. I know a lot of people don't believe in that, but when you're up that high, on the side of the mountain.

Speaker 2 7:20

Yeah, you're that close, yeah it, it affects it and uh, but I had I had a really good time. I it's a fun, it's a. It's a country club fun.

Speaker 4 7:30

Golf it's fun, yeah it's yeah, yeah, it's a good course. The greens. The greens are the test. That's what make it tough, because it's not an overall, it's not an overly tough course, but those greens will you know, they'll test you yeah, so I I shot two under on the back with the eagle.

Speaker 2 7:45

I parred every hole except that one that I eagled. I just couldn't get anything to drop on the putts, but uh I I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 7:53

It's got it's got a little bit of an arroyo vibe to it when you drive through the neighborhood on that one hole and we pulled up and I told big matt, I'm like, uh, what'd you sneak us on the back nine at arroyo, what's going on here and uh. But overall I think some of the views where you're along, a couple times you know you're right on the edge of the mountain range, which you don't there's, I don't think you're right up on the mountain out there.

Speaker 2 8:19

I mean, yeah, you're you're on the mountain it's it's kind of sick and uh awesome views of the valley. The green complexes were good. The bunkers were well. One bunker wasn't, but the bunkers were pretty good and for being as hot as it is out right now, the course was in really good shape. Nice, I enjoyed it. It will do well on the rankings for me.

Speaker 3 8:47

um I don't mind the course, I just, I just don't like the layout is it as bad as a royo?

Speaker 6 8:54

is it it's? Is it it's not as extreme right?

Speaker 4 8:58

I don't think it's as bad as a royo.

Speaker 3 9:00

No, I don't think it's a matter of what is the one hole where there's one hole on the other side of the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 9:06

Yeah, that's where you're going to drive through. Yeah, that's Terrible.

Speaker 3 9:10

That's terrible.

Speaker 2 9:11

Terrible design.

Speaker 3 9:12

Yeah. But I mean Not a terrible hole, but it's just like it takes you 25 minutes to play that hole because it's literally one hole across the street yeah, you could say that about both courses. There they're like the way the routing and the flow is terrible.

Speaker 2 9:29

There's no flow no flow yeah, I thought there was. I thought there was a good flow to it, though, uh, the private more than a real deal. Yes, yes, yeah absolutely, yeah, yeah yeah I mean the, the last hole, that it's nice long, par par-5. It's got the big houses and you get the views of the city. It's a good hole. I love the back nine. I thought the back nine was great, front nine little.

Speaker 3 9:59

He's just very excited to play a course he hasn't played in Vegas.

Speaker 2 10:02

He's just living high.

Speaker 3 10:03

right now he's only got a course. He hasn't played in Vegas yeah, I was. He's just living high right now. He's only got a couple more left.

Matt 10:08

He's got to play what?

Speaker 3 10:09

Durango Hills, Eagle Crest, Highland Falls.

Speaker 2 10:14

Summit and the win, those executive courses.

Speaker 4 10:17

I still got to do the win too. Joe, you're the only one that's played the win right.

Speaker 3 10:21

Yes, I've played it twice, if you guys didn't know.

Speaker 6 10:24

Yeah, with the Golden Knights right, yeah me and Mark.

Speaker 3 10:28

Stone were out there just fucking hitting little chippers in there, you know.

Speaker 6 10:31

That was like right around when you went to Bethpage, I think, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 10:34

Yeah, I've also played Bethpage Black yeah.

Dan's Incredible 272-Yard Hole Out

Matt 10:38

Oh, alright, you ready for a funny story. Yeah, Shoot it.

Speaker 2 10:45

I was embarrassed last night and I sent Jeremy a text message.

Speaker 5 10:51

And I said, hey, I'm going to put this in a group chat, but I'm a little embarrassed.

Speaker 2 10:56

I go why are we playing Prairie Dunes on the Nebraska trip? I looked it up. I'm like it's in kansas, it's far away. I thought we were only in nebraska. And jeremy goes, jeremy goes, no, no, it's prairie club, not prairie dunes. Okay, that makes more sense. So I am very excited. Now I am too yeah about the trip because I was geeked to play land man. I was geeked to play wherever we're going, when we get there, and but then I was like why are we driving from?

Speaker 3 11:37

omaha to kansas to denver why are we going way out of the way?

Speaker 2 11:43

I was researching Prairie Dunes and I'm like it's an old club, been around a long time, it's private, maybe it's got some history.

Speaker 4 11:51

I'm like have any of you guys reached out to Ballyneal.

Speaker 3 11:56

We don't have time to do it.

Speaker 2 11:58

Joe said no. Joe said, we can't.

Speaker 3 12:00

We don't have time.

Speaker 4 12:04

You guys got to make time, if it happens.

Speaker 3 12:06

I would skip the second day at Prairie Club to go play ballet now I would.

Speaker 6 12:14

Two, three courses at Prairie Club. There's two courses.

Matt 12:20

Two courses and a short course.

Speaker 3 12:22

They flop them right. One day the public is on this course, and then the next day it's private on this course, and then there's a short course and there's a putting course. I could give two shits. I would rather play a Tom Doak in the middle of fucking Colorado than I'll skip no, no, I just want to play Bally, neal Ballyneal.

Speaker 2 12:46

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 12:48

Well, Drop said Sandhills and Ballyneal are the greatest golf Experiences and greatest golf courses he's ever played.

Speaker 2 12:58

He's played a lot of places. Yeah, I mean Sandhills is.

Speaker 3 13:02

It's up there, private Uber you can get, yeah I mean I'm very stoked for prairie club, don't get me wrong, but like it's gonna be a great trip regardless if you can play ballyneal. Uh, I probably take ballyneal, but that's personal opinion, personal preference and all that. But maybe we can drive, maybe on the way to the airport to denver, we can just like find out where rodeo dunes is and we'll just pull in real quick.

Speaker 3 13:28

I know we'll take a yeah, we'll just take a quick picture, be like hey, we were here and then you can go play.

Speaker 4 13:33

You can go play common ground. I think that's a joke out in denver common ground.

Speaker 3 13:38

Yes, that is a dope, but we don't have time. If you have time, and then we don't, we don't, we don't know, we, we are. Our flight is at like 8 pm that day, so we're we're playing early in the morning that day and then getting in the car at like 12 and driving four or five hours to the airport before our flight through the middle of nothing if nothing.

Speaker 2 14:02

If bob was with us, we'd have like a three hour window.

Speaker 3 14:07

We could get at least nine holes in at least.

Speaker 4 14:09

We could get a short course in for sure.

Speaker 2 14:11

Yes, yes, no, but yeah, that was, that was embarrassing. I sent Cliff a message. I'm like I go. I have to tell you this Cause. Why'd you pick this one, cliff?

Speaker 3 14:20

I go.

Speaker 2 14:20

I was really kind of like not looking forward to driving to. Kansas. He started laughing. He goes yeah, I got it mixed up too, it's easy to get mixed up, for sure. But my God, those two courses there look absolutely incredible, and we can play as many holes, as we want each day.

Speaker 6 14:44

And the cabin is like right by the practice facility.

Speaker 2 14:49

There's a little walking trail to the putting course from it. It's like oh, oh oh. And it's going to be light out until 10.

Speaker 3 14:59

I mean I'm super stoked to play Prairie Club, but dude, landman, I cannot wait to get to fucking landman. I cannot wait to see that on my yellow head cover yep yeah, yeah, I can't wait, I cannot wait all right.

Speaker 2 15:16

So, uh, the the calloway elite night edition, dan is is is gonna be a a buyer. Uh, so I this happens all the time at fittings people like, oh, I just don't like the green, I just don't like the green and I'll go. We have an all black one and like are you serious?

Speaker 2 15:34

I'm like yeah, and so I'll just set the club down. I'm like, see, it's all black. Why is it that people obsessed, or get obsessed about an all black driver when, when they're looking at it from the top down, it's all black anyways? Is it just a different look for you? What is it?

Speaker 4 15:53

I'm sure I think it's just the overall aesthetics of a golf club. You know, just because it looks good at a dress doesn't mean like you're not going to like the overall looks of it. You know, if your cavity looks funky you got some extra designs it might take away from some people. You know, not me I love, I don't. I'm not bothered by the green color at all in the Callaway. I think they could have done something different because a lot of people bitched about it. But you know, I think overall the people that do bitch about it, they just want an overly aesthetically pleasing driver, sole address, shaft grip, all of it.

Speaker 2 16:29

It's like if they would just do this from the beginning and then make a special edition green one and see that nobody buys it. Oh okay, Maybe we should just stick with black.

Speaker 4 16:41

Yeah, I think every company should come out with a black one and then, if you want color, just give them the option to customize it with color yeah, kind of like with the yellow and green and blue faces on the tailor-made clothes.

Speaker 2 16:55

Yeah, on the tailor-made, exactly. All right, lab.

Speaker 3 17:02

I'm sorry I was looking at something, but I just think, as far as the colorway schemes go, I just think like the black looks just clean, and you know, like people do so much funky things, like, uh, taylor made with the gold and the silver, and like people just like clean lines, clean shit, like you know, and that's the way of like houses nowadays too. Like you think about modern I mean people are loving the modern like clean lines, simple colors, like I just think it's like, uh, you know, you live in that house.

Speaker 3 17:35

You you never see the bottom of that club well, you never see, uh the head cover, unless you're taking it off either. But you know I don't want a bad head cover what you see.

Speaker 3 17:49

The head cover all the time no, I just, I just think it's. It's just it looks clean. I think it's like oh, that thing looks clean. You know what I mean? I think that's what it is. It's like I, I feel confident playing that because it's like clean and slim and I think that breeds confidence in the way that you will hit the golf club. I mean not necessarily right, it's not going to change your swing, but like you feel confident and like I like the look of that and that's why we like blades. I mean because it looks clean, sleek. You know, everybody likes skinny people, right?

Speaker 2 18:35

It baffles me that a color that you don't look at when you're playing the game that you don't see Because I don't know if you know Joe, but I wrote I love dicks on the bottom of your driver, like six months ago, and you've never seen it when you're playing the game that you don't see because I I I don't know if you know, joe, but I wrote I love dicks on the bottom of your driver, like six months ago, and you've never seen it yeah, I mean it's fine.

Speaker 3 18:51

I mean I haven't seen it, so now I need a new driver. And if I see it I need a new driver. But I think I just like food. Right, the eyes eat first, the eyes eat first, the eyes eat first.

Speaker 4 19:05

You know what I mean.

Matt's Red Rock Hole-Out

Speaker 3 19:06

What a thumper. The eyes eat first, even in food, right? Oh, you're going to go to a restaurant, right? What do you do? You check out Matt checks out Google Images, we check out Yelp and then, oh, that looks good, that's where it is Google. Images. That's what it is. The eyes eat first. That looks good. I want to try it. Simple explanation.

Speaker 4 19:30

That looks like shit. I don't want to eat that Exactly.

Speaker 2 19:34

Exactly. Yeah, I don't know. For me personally, I don't get it when people are all upset about the green. I was't I. For me personally, I, I don't get it. It's like when people are all upset about the green, I was like there's, you don't ever see that. Now, now, if you're showcasing it in your bag and you're in your living room and you, you know don't like it totally understand that, but for the most part you don't like the color.

Speaker 3 20:01

Are you going to go buy something you don't like the color of? Are you going gonna go to the store, like, maybe it looks good for you, maybe it slims you down? Are you gonna go to the store? You maybe you don't like a purple shirt, but the shirt's dope, right, but you don't look good, you don't like the look of purple. Are you gonna buy it? I mean, you're, we're not wearing it, right, we're not going out in public wearing it. But like that's what we're talking about. Like people see with their eyes first.

Speaker 2 20:27

No, I understand that, I just. But you don't see this, that's, that's the thing that well, I'll tell you what I don't see the turbulators on a ping driver. I see those they. That is not aesthetically appeasing to me because I look down and I see those same thing with the crank.

Speaker 3 20:44

I don't like seeing that on top, but a colorway on the bottom you see, occasionally I mean, I'm not like, say, I'm not the biggest fan of a of purple right using this, maybe I'll never buy a purple keychain. I don't see it, because it's in my pocket. I put the keys in my car, I don't see it, the wheel blocks it. But I'm never gonna buy a purple keychain because I that's what it is, that's, that's the effect I I do I like? Situations.

Speaker 2 21:16

But exactly, yeah, no, I, I understand it's a personal preference, but I what I don't understand is how you can take a personal preference for something that you don't see. You know, while you're it's a tool that you use to play the game and you you, I mean, I have never once looked down as I'm getting ready to hit a tee shot and seeing the green on my driver.

Speaker 6 21:40

And I don't think it's about that part, it's not about that, it's just being there at all, because you're going to see it the same amount of times you're going to swing it.

Speaker 3 21:48

Yeah, you're going to see it occasionally. I guess it just doesn't bother me.

Speaker 6 21:52

I think that's what it is.

Speaker 2 21:53

You're the exception to the rule. I'm the exception. Yes, yeah, you're the only person that thinks that way, the only one. Because you're a psycho, psycho golfer. All right, uh, lab and costco.

Callaway Night Edition & Mini Drivers

Matt 22:16

Uh, haven't reached out to ask sam about this, because I I don't know if he'd even tell me about it or not?

Speaker 2 22:20

um, what not his first? Oh, so that's what? How long are we into the show? 22 minutes, that's not bad, uh. Opinions on mini driver whatever works yeah whatever works.

Speaker 6 22:32

I think they're cool. I mean I love the titleist one. I think it's awesome and I think it's cool.

Speaker 3 22:36

They did the taylor, made throwback, but I'm not spending four or five hundred dollars on. That's my whole thing.

Speaker 2 22:47

They're cool as fuck. But If you have a problem hitting a driver, you spray it all over the place. Try one.

Speaker 3 22:52

It's done wonders for Vic Sanchez Vic's in a mini driver.

Speaker 2 22:59

Yeah, he's got the. Taylormade and I think he was getting the Elite one too.

Speaker 4 23:04

Did he get the R7?

Speaker 6 23:07

He has the one before that, I think.

Speaker 2 23:09

Yeah, he got the Burner.

Speaker 6 23:10

Okay.

Speaker 3 23:13

Honestly, it's all about finding what works for you.

Speaker 2 23:17

If you struggle with the big stick, but you can hit a 3-wood off the tee. There you go.

Speaker 4 23:23

Get you a UW Apex.

Speaker 3 23:27

You might get a double leagues 270-yard hole on the card.

Speaker 4 23:31

Easiest clubs to hit that comment by.

Speaker 6 23:34

Hando about the Mizunos. 100% agree, man. Those things look so awesome from the cavity, but the offset is heinous. Do they have a lot? It's more than the last, for sure. It's like, it's like they're going backwards yeah I mean set them up.

Speaker 2 23:55

Yeah, really that's disappointing trying to sell more irons to more people yeah, I mean, which is understandable.

Speaker 6 24:01

I mean there's probably more people that don't care than our offset snobs.

Speaker 3 24:08

But right, yeah.

Speaker 6 24:09

The people that are going to buy the blades don't want the offset. I would say majority, exactly.

Speaker 3 24:14

Yeah.

Speaker 4 24:14

Yeah.

Speaker 3 24:15

I think that's the whole thing they're trying to. They're trying to sell more things to more people, to fit more people to, for it looks well for them, or it's. It's everything's a company, everything's a brand, everything is trying to sell you something. You know.

Speaker 2 24:32

That's what it comes down to you can't come out with a mini first it's called three wood stretch yeah, a mini driver is basically a 3-wood.

Speaker 3 24:42

I mean with you know, more MOI For the most part. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 24:54

All right, so Lab at Costco. I haven't talked to Stan about this, Not sure if he'd say anything to me about it or not, but Roar shared a picture with me from because I'm not in the Facebook group, but I did see a video come up. Yeah, he said. Regarding Costco, there's absolutely not authorized to be selling our putters. We have no idea how it happened and we are on top of it. We would never make a choice to cheapen the brand that way.

Speaker 6 25:25

That's what I was going say. I feel I I love costco. I'm a huge, we shop at costco all the time and I love it, but seeing a lab there would cheapen lab to me, I think. So I mean the calaboy clubs they have there. Granted, it's a specific set, it's it's for the people that have an entire set of clubs. It's the same thing? I don't. I look at those and think that's not a real cali set, that's a cost made for costco. Yeah, that's the edge that's the edge set yeah kirk lab it's fucking perfect, maddie.

Speaker 3 26:04

I think if they if they did it, they should have made one specific to costco, not the df3.

Speaker 2 26:11

You know what I mean so uh question then do you think lab sold it to him, or how?

Speaker 3 26:21

else are they gonna get it somehow? I mean, he said he wouldn't do it. Right, he said he didn't do it yes I mean, where else are they gonna get all that stock? It would have had to come from like a, a dick sporting goods, getting rid of them or like something crazy, because for them to throw it on the website is that's a lot of fucking putters.

Speaker 3 26:45

I don't know where else they were on the costco website well, that's the video I saw oh, you did okay I saw a video where he like pulled up the website and they were on the website for like 350 or something. Well, I mean, I did, I didn't check, I didn't check.

Speaker 2 27:03

So if you're LabGolf, do you say no to a Costco PO?

Speaker 3 27:15

I think it truly depends on where you're trying to go with your brand or where you're at with your brand. It is a business decision what you would do in that situation.

Speaker 2 27:25

Joe, you just bought Lab Putters. Are you turning down a Costco PO?

Speaker 3 27:35

depends where I feel I mean it's. Maybe it depends how confident I am in the brand uh what we've done with social uh media influencers and how many people are talking about it this is a carl's golf land I know that's the thing, but that's the thing.

Speaker 3 27:53

Maybe maybe there was a bottleneck, maybe we can, maybe we can move some things around, make it a little cheaper, and we're struggling trying to fulfill orders, and we can do it through this manufacturer by moving a weight here or there. Make the shaft cheaper, and we need money. It's circumstantial, 100%.

Speaker 2 28:17

Depending on where you're at. Oh, it's on the website yeah, it's from Matt Boyd.

Speaker 4 28:21

He just sent me this or us list. But yeah, it's right there. Costco lab DF3 stockpile $7,000, I think it's.

Speaker 3 28:31

I think it's so circumstantial, right like it depends how much you believe in your brand, your company and where you're at in your like sourcing and things like that. Like, if we can hold out, maybe they can't hold out, maybe they're just like so backed up that they they cannot hold out and they'll never survive unless they take this po from costco what about you, jeremy?

Speaker 6 28:56

I mean if, if I'm purely in it for money, then of course Costco oh yeah yeah, if.

Speaker 3 29:01

I'm in it for money 100.

Speaker 6 29:03

But but if I mean talking to Sam and knowing the type of person he is, it doesn't seem like that's the objective yeah, I'm sure that that is an objective.

Speaker 3 29:12

But that's the thing though. We talked to Sam and I think they're struggling with like manufacturing and maybe they're backed up, and that's why I say that like maybe they needed to do this to make the brand survive and that's why I'm saying like I couldn't say yes or no, because when we if you go back and listen to the lab podcast with sam from lab, I feel like it was necessary to do this to help lab survive and if that's the case, then yes, I would do it to try and make sure the brand survives yeah, dan what do you think?

Speaker 4 29:51

fuck. Yeah, I'm selling that shit. All about the money, all about that money, bro. That's your job. That's the reason why you go into business is to make money.

Speaker 2 29:59

You don't sit there to have a selective market. Did you guys ever watch that show? Make that money did you ever watch that docuseries on Costco?

Speaker 3 30:10

hey, shoot well tomorrow.

Speaker 4 30:11

Pretendo good luck out there, pick those greens homie, do one of those Pretendo before you go. Does anyone know? Sorry?

Speaker 2 30:22

here. No, dan, maybe a little, but so there was a. It was a three-part series on costco and it broke down all the different sections, like their food, their toys and their alcohol, and I mean the like the toy section. To get your toy in Costco, it's like it's not easy. You don't just submit hey, we want our toys. There's trials, there's meetings there, I mean. And the same thing with the wine, the Kirkland wine, like. They go and find wineries that are like and they invest a ton in them. It's amazing what they're doing. It's not just a corner store.

Speaker 3 31:07

I watched a few documentaries on that. I'm sure Dan did too.

Speaker 4 31:12

Yeah, I'm a big documentary guy.

Speaker 2 31:14

There's a brand of stiletto that made $200 hammers and he sold to a big box store and started his own company, again called martinez and our four hundred dollar hammers, but made multi-million dollars selling wild four hundred dollar hammer, that's uh that's a lot of hammer. I thought two hundred dollars is a lot for a hammer.

Speaker 3 31:34

I thought ten dollars was a lot if you use, why?

Speaker 2 31:37

is it every day for your your trade. That's fucking insane they sell left-handed hammers any lefties got a special arc on it just for the lefties. Ah, okay, next in the big news that happened, mr Grant Horvat, is that right? Did I say it right?

Speaker 3 32:03

Yeah.

Speaker 2 32:06

He said he's not playing in the Barracuda because the PGA Tour would not allow the film crew. And so I see, as I was watching social media today, all the creator golf fanboys are like awesome way to go stand up for yourself. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Pga. Get off my lawn, you grumpy old guys. Yada, yada, yada. But I was curious what you guys thought about this. I I I mean, first off, you're. You got an invite to play in a PGA Tour event and I understand you are a YouTube golfer. That's what you're famous for, that's your brand, that's how you make your money. But it's like you're going to somebody else's house to play in a game. That's their rules. Do you think it's a little egotistical to say I'm not gonna play because I can't bring my film crew? Or could he have just played and not worried about his film crew because he got a fucking invite to play in a pga tour event?

Speaker 6 33:09

I think the reason he got the invite is because of youtube and that's what he does, and plus he's he's playing with live the live shootouts. He's playing with the Live Shootouts. He's playing with Phil.

Speaker 2 33:20

He's doing all these.

Lab Putters at Costco Controversy

Speaker 6 33:21

Honestly, I think it didn't matter to him. I think the camera thing is more important than playing in a PGA Tour event. That's what he does. I mean, the whole purpose of him wanting to play in it and wanting to accept it is for the content.

Speaker 3 33:36

And if he can't do the content content, he's already playing with four players did you guys see the video of him with scotty shuffler where he was talking? He was like hey, if I get invited, like, what would you do? Should I take it? He's like because I feel like I'm taking a spot from somebody that deserves it more than me. Did you see that clip?

Speaker 3 33:58

that I have respect for yeah, exactly now, I don't know if that's true or anything. I mean, I did see him say that on a video, right, uh, which is awesome, like 100 respect for that. But, um, I also saw people saying like he just doesn't want to go out there and shoot an 85, you know, and look stupid, which, yeah, it's a much harder golf course, like who cares if you shoot an 85 on a pga tour, like course it's fine, whatever. Because he if if the reasoning is he couldn't bring his film crew is like they could have worked out a deal, I'm sure, where it's like hey, guys, just film every shot that I take and then I'll have your logo there. You could have clipped something together with with the footage.

Speaker 3 34:48

But from what I saw, which was like three months ago, he said he doesn't want to take a spot from somebody that deserves it more than he does, which is dope. So I don't know. I, we and we will never know the behind the door talkings or the works of it all. So who knows, dan, what do you think?

Speaker 2 35:10

or do you even care?

Speaker 4 35:12

I mean no, I mean I, I care a little bit, I mean I can understand why, but I think, I think honestly, it probably just comes down to the fact that, is he going to contend after two days? More than likely he'll miss the cut, more than likely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, in turn, he'll have no footage and he'll have zero dollars. Right, yeah?

Speaker 4 35:35

So blow off the tournament it doesn't make sense exactly and I think that's where he took it s but and, like joe said, you know he's all buddy buddies with a lot of the live guys and stuff. So maybe he's kind of, you know, brought him to their side a little bit and kind of he's. Maybe he's a little bit anti pga I doubt it because his dad's pga but, um, you know, I think that probably had a little bit to do with it, the fact that he's, you know, friends with the live guys. But I think really, just because it doesn't make any sense for him monetarily, you know, not going to get any footage and he's probably not going to make any money missing the cut.

Speaker 2 36:10

Yeah, Jay says I think, if he wasn't in bed with the live guys they may have let him film.

Speaker 3 36:20

I don't know. I don't think so. No, that was half the battle, yeah that's half the fill.

Speaker 4 36:22

That was the whole filth thing. Yep, yeah, they all live. They all left because they said they wanted to do content shit pga. Act. Give me acts on that yeah, we own your rights.

Speaker 6 36:29

Yeah, I don't think that and after the golf better do something, taking his account down for posting videos of his players. I mean, I I was always on the side of pga tour, but I watch way more youtube golf than I do any tour, and so for me it's like I would rather watch these guys anyway. I just think I don't think that matters. I don't think the pga tour would budge even if he wasn't playing with the lib players or anything. I just think that's the way they do it and there's no changing it.

Speaker 3 36:57

Yeah, so yeah, yeah yeah, I mean if it was, if, if the reason is he didn't want to take a spot from somebody that deserves it, like down for that 100, say that say that, then he did, though, like three months ago on a video with scotty scheffler, he set that.

Speaker 4 37:16

Okay, but today he posted I'm not playing Cause they won't let my film crew not you know politics bro I don't know, I think it's just changed for him, like back then he could say that because he wasn't as big as he is now. Yeah, yeah, Now that he's partnered up with Phil and Tacoma and all the other extra stuff that he's doing, winning all these creator cups and stuff like that the kid's on a different level now.

Speaker 3 37:44

I could see happening where Liv lets him play in a tournament and they let him film.

Speaker 4 37:50

Maybe They've already done that. Didn't they already do that with the Liv duels?

Speaker 3 37:54

In a tournament, not in a Liv tournament.

Matt 37:58

I'm talking about like a live but I was sponsored by live.

Speaker 3 38:03

Well, I could see him playing by live but that was like a creator thing it wasn't an actual live event tournament payout money tournament yeah, okay, I could see that it was like guys right yeah, yeah, the live played, but it wasn't a live four-day tournament.

Speaker 4 38:21

No, they don't. Three days, I bet you that's what's happening.

Speaker 3 38:26

Liv's like we'll pay you all this money. You can play in our tournament. You film it all. You post it on your YouTube. You play in the tournament because there's no cuts. You're going to win money anyway. I bet you that's what happens. You play in the tournament because there's no cuts. You're going to win money anyway. Yeah, I bet you that's what happens. Calling right now. Call me. What was her name? Cleo, nostradamus. No, cleo, miss Cleo.

Matt 38:49

Call me Miss.

Speaker 3 38:50

Cleo, let's go, miss Cleo, miss Cleo. Thank you, darling. All right, here's.

Speaker 2 38:58

I have these new Rest in peace, Ms Cleo. Some new stuff here. Oh yeah, Like subscribe, Like that on the screen.

Speaker 6 39:04

Smash that like. Button.

Speaker 2 39:06

A little breaking news yeah.

Speaker 3 39:09

Brandon said who thinks Liv is going to take over? Did you see that? None of us.

Speaker 4 39:17

I don't think Liv's going to take over.

Speaker 3 39:19

No they don't have the history.

Speaker 4 39:21

The ratings are trash. They're gonna try to money grab and do little things that they can.

Speaker 2 39:25

They'll probably bring most of the youtube golf guys over to their side yeah, they're, but everybody's making news about because they they have a new ceo and they resubmitted their OWGR application. Sorry, you guys only play three days.

Speaker 3 39:46

You don't have a cut and that's Got to do that. Who likes playing in a scramble, starting in a different hole than the way the course was designed and intended to be played by an architect? Nobody. No, I like playing it 1 through 18 personally. Just well, I mean they're 10 through, 10 through 9 a lot on on the pga tour 1 through 18, unless the course.

Speaker 2 40:08

Yeah, they do do they do split teas every week in pga tour, so it's not that big, not not in like the final round no, no, this is the first two days. Yeah, yeah, that's well. Sometimes with weather, they'll have guys go off the back too, so I mean it happens, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 40:24

Well, I don't like starting on hole five, six, I don't like starting on part threes in vegas golf network tournaments, oh, you see where you're starting that.

Speaker 6 40:32

Yeah, you don't like starting on part threes no why?

Speaker 2 40:39

I don't understand that. Why?

Speaker 4 40:40

just start off with a one and fucking start your day that's true get that one out of the way.

Speaker 2 40:46

It's a mid-on. What?

Speaker 3 40:48

do you talk about? I played with you at national and you're like I don't know why. I did it to myself. I'm doing it. So people know that I start on part threes too. That didn't bother me, I don't care. I want to start on part threes too, because everybody, that didn't bother me, I don't care. I want to start on one always.

Speaker 2 41:03

Get to the diamonds, play golf and record your scores.

Speaker 4 41:08

Coming up to the hearts.

Speaker 3 41:10

BGC's in the house.

Speaker 4 41:13

Or the diamonds, Joe. Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 3 41:18

Look at this guy. You been bro where you been creeping in the shadows, I think. I think whatnot might have got to him coming in hot from the hospital. Uh-oh, I thought you were living on the street because you spent too much money on whatnot.

Speaker 2 41:41

Got thrown out.

Speaker 3 41:42

Hopefully you're doing well, Mike. Hopefully you're doing well, brother.

Speaker 2 41:46

I saw him in modern some shows every now and then he jumped in both feet like Dan did, yeah.

Speaker 3 41:55

That's a lot of fun, man, I love it.

Speaker 2 41:57

It is fun, all right, uh, last time. Second last topic uh, it is, it is major week. Uh, royal point port rush is uh looking absolutely fantastic man, that is a good looking, golf course. Jeremy said we need to get to ireland and chatter, and I liked I responded, I said, man, I I think it will look even better without the grandstands. Jeremy said we need to get to Ireland and chat. Oh yeah, and I I responded. I said, man, I, I think it will look even better without the grandstands.

Speaker 2 42:22

Just that land and oh, it looks just spectacular. That that is something that may get me to drink alcohol again. If we go to Ireland and we get some Guinness in in the pub, I may partake in some alcohol again, just for the trip, just don't yeah, having a guinness in ireland okay well I could make you a mud shake if you want to, well, ice cream, I don't know, sorry, I'm not trying to offend anybody who loves Guinness or anything like that, but that shit's nasty.

Speaker 3 43:03

I don't mind Guinness, it's just got to be cold. You know what I mean. It's got to be really cold.

Speaker 4 43:10

It's got to be left in the tap.

Speaker 3 43:14

I love chewing my beer.

Matt 43:15

Give me a Jameson or something no-transcript.

Speaker 4 43:16

Give me a whiskey, Irish whiskey.

Speaker 2 43:20

So final major of the year.

Speaker 3 43:24

Yeah, I can't believe it's over. I can't believe major season is about to be over it comes by and goes so fast man. So fast. We wait for it forever and it's gone. Yeah, it did.

Speaker 4 43:34

April, may, june, july done.

Speaker 2 43:38

Thankfully we have the Ry rider cup this year, to extend it a little bit so, uh, you know where it's at right um some goat track in new york did you guys see scotty scheffler's comments today about him?

Speaker 3 43:50

like it's not, like golf isn't fulfilling.

Speaker 2 43:53

Yeah, I did I heard him talking about how he grew up, uh, wanting to win on the pga tour, the byron nelson. He wins it. It's his home state, you know, it's his hometown event and he wins it. It's like the most excited he's ever been in golf. And then, like a half hour later, they're like okay, what are we having for dinner tonight? And he said it's just like it's over so fast that you know you're okay, we got to go on the next week because we got another tournament next week, um, so I heard him talking about that yeah that's

Speaker 6 44:25

basically what it was it sounds like a problem for someone that wins a lot, though yeah, I.

Speaker 2 44:31

I think his bank account and his agent are pretty happy with his play and are pretty fulfilled.

Speaker 6 44:37

He's just so used to it so you think he's?

Speaker 3 44:42

numb.

Speaker 6 44:43

You think he's numb, I think he's numb because he's he's, he's dominated for a couple of years and it's like what else is he going to do? I mean, he's won the masters twice. He needs to win the other majors, of course.

Speaker 2 44:56

Yeah, he's going to perform well in this and maybe he's just trying to downplay because he hasn't played the greatest overseas.

Speaker 3 45:02

Maybe I mean it could be a mental thing, maybe I mean who? That's the thing. Man never judge people like where they're at in their life. You know, like we don't know.

Speaker 3 45:10

Yeah, you know, we have no idea where he's at someone like maybe he cares so much about winning this major and he's just saying that Maybe he's got like a better help betterhelpcom sponsor, you can sponsor us right here. Maybe he's been talking to a therapist and they're like, hey, you just got to stop caring so much and just let the soul breathe. You know, soul golf it.

Speaker 2 45:33

Who knows God he needs a whatnot intro. Wouldn't have any issues with spending the needs of new outlet.

Speaker 3 45:39

Yeah right, I'm going to send him the link. Who do you?

Speaker 6 45:44

think you could sell a green jacket on Whatnot for.

Speaker 2 45:48

Five seconds on that, let's go.

Speaker 3 45:52

Yeah, well, those stay at the club. Those stay at the club. Yeah, true, you have to have permission to take that out.

Speaker 2 45:59

So who do you think gets it done overseas this weekend?

Speaker 3 46:05

Personally, I'm rooting for Tommy Fleetwood. He's been playing pretty good. He probably won't win, but I like to think that he will. He probably won't win, but I like to think that he will. I also joined Tradition Golf. Follow Tradition Golf in their pool. Have you jumped in Matt's pool, dan? Are you in Matt's pool? Probably should text him. I'm in Matt's open pool.

Speaker 4 46:32

I'm also in Bimby's pool. He always sends me an invite, but I never get in anybody's pool. I don't do that shit. He didn't wear me his pool. He always sends me an invite, but I never get in anybody's pool. I don't do that shit. He didn't wear me his pool. I get in the whatnot pool.

Speaker 3 46:46

He gets in those buyer's givies Two feet.

Speaker 2 46:48

Dan who you got.

Speaker 4 47:03

Give me Rory, hometown boy.

Speaker 3 47:04

Rory at home. I just don't see it.

Speaker 2 47:07

Did he shot a 62 there as an amateur?

Speaker 3 47:10

That doesn't matter, it's his home course he just got done.

Speaker 4 47:13

Third place last week, back in form, he's stressed out, I think he's going to want to win this at home.

Speaker 3 47:21

He wants to win it. That's the problem. He wants to win it very badly.

Speaker 4 47:24

That's the problem. He wanted to win the Masters too, and he won that. Yeah, that could be the reason, yeah, that might be the reason. It might be easier now.

Speaker 3 47:35

Yeah, you might be right, Maybe.

Speaker 2 47:40

Sleep in his own bed, eat his own food. He said in his press conference that the hollywood banger, bangers and mash.

Speaker 4 47:45

He hasn't played that course in a long time, people, I like this comment because I actually agree with it very much, so I do too, rory will either win or miss the cut. Horribly 1,000% yes.

Speaker 3 47:58

Yes, and this is how I feel Rory's going to be too confident.

Speaker 4 48:06

I can see that We'll see, though he's going to be the man to beat.

Speaker 3 48:09

I mean him and Scotty you know, the man to beat is Tommy.

Speaker 2 48:13

Jeremy, jeremy, who are you?

Speaker 6 48:15

taking Justin.

Speaker 2 48:16

Rose, oh, good pick.

Speaker 3 48:18

I like Justin Rose too a lot, I do. I really like Justin Rose a lot.

Speaker 6 48:22

I think Hovland, though, could win too. I think he could do it.

Speaker 3 48:26

I think there's also potential for Shane Lowry to go back-to-back at Port Rush as well.

Speaker 2 48:33

Yeah, yeah, I got Jon Rahm.

Speaker 3 48:37

And Rory would hate him so much, even though they're best friends, yeah, rambo, rambo, bring it home.

Speaker 6 48:44

Yeah, Rambo could do it.

Speaker 3 48:48

A lot of right to left putts for John Rahm.

Speaker 2 48:52

Yeah, there's some undulation in those greens. Gosh for link style golf Wow.

Speaker 3 48:58

Rory's going to ask for a rerun. I don't know, oh.

Speaker 2 49:09

Yeah, can we run that front nine again please?

Speaker 3 49:10

Yeah, rerun Start over.

Speaker 2 49:17

Before we get into any uh vgn, uh chatter, uh. Let me do this. Maddie g's here with the uh weekend forecast what's up everybody?

Speaker 5 49:30

it's fox five. Meteorologist matt contarget, the chasing daylight podcast, your forecast for the upcoming vgn tournament at chimera calling for about 104 degrees under partly cloudy skies. We have a chance for an isolated thunderstorm, mainly over the mountains as we head into Saturday afternoon. They may cause a few gusts around 20 to 30 miles per hour in Henderson, but very typical July weather. We'll have a few afternoon clouds. Temperatures at 104. Should be a decent round heading into Saturday. Good luck. Should be a decent round heading into Saturday.

Speaker 6 49:56

Good luck, Dude. It was humid as hell.

Speaker 2 50:05

Oh my god, the swamp was kicking. The swamp was kicking. We played Sunday morning early in the day.

Speaker 4 50:14

It was soaked it was soaked.

Speaker 2 50:17

I hate when they do that, dude, it was soaked. I hate when they do that. Oh, dude, it was dank we were backing up drivers yeah, they were just landing three feet behind them. Jeremy carried the bunkers on what is it? 15, the par 5. He fucking hammered that shit.

Speaker 3 50:37

I've never seen Jeremy have a better drive in my life.

Speaker 2 50:41

As we were driving away from him, I told him I go, dude. That ball flight took off and when I was expecting it to start coming down, it just went up more.

Speaker 4 50:53

I wish you guys would have seen his drive on 10 at TPC Vegas.

Speaker 6 50:59

Oh, it was like the same.

Speaker 2 51:01

He carried Trey and we get up there. It was 285, and it maybe had two feet of rollout.

Speaker 4 51:10

Yeah, he carried Trey. What do you think he flew that Jay at TPC Vegas 310?

Speaker 6 51:16

320 maybe.

Speaker 4 51:20

It was insane. He was in front of me by 40 yards and he flew trey. It was nuts. I. I never seen jeremy hit a ball, and the thing is he hit it 197 feet in the air yeah, it's right it's, that's it was so fucking high, so high, it's no fucking farm. How do you do that?

Speaker 2 51:38

dude, that thing was fucking way down on it two degrees, dan that's how dude my yeah seriously, my swing is like completely different now oh we, we had to tinker with the driver a little bit to get it dialed back in, but uh, I think you're good to go. Yeah, I think so. I think you're good to go for the weekend.

Speaker 3 51:58

Yeah, I think so, ped testing coming soon. Ped testing yep, yep.

Speaker 2 52:02

So Chimera is the venue for this weekend's Vegas Golf Network event. We got 64 players that have taken up the challenge to play with us out there. It's going to be a typical end of July, early august muggy, monsoony day. The courts punch their greens a couple be. It'll be two weeks by the time they get to us, so the greens should be in better shape than they were. They were super firm. I mean, nothing was holding the greens very, very firm, uh, and sanded, but they should be good.

Speaker 2 52:37

Uh, you know we got a week it's, it's hot this week so you know, hopefully I get beat up too much. But uh, I'm sure a nice little cut and roll before saturday will be nice and then we'll be good to go. Very scorable golf course, very, very, very, very, you know. So we'll see how it goes. I had I had to drop the hammer on the slow play, so yeah, if anybody's listening. Dan, you didn't see the email, but dictatorship out here. Yeah, I just I'm tired of hearing it from the courses that we probably won't be invited back to TPC Vegas because of the slow play.

Speaker 2 53:22

So yeah, I have a clock now on my phone. Five hours goes off. You haven't turned your card in. Stroke penalty 520. Two-stroke penalty 540 DQ.

Matt 53:34

Whoa yeah no more of this oh TPC.

Speaker 4 53:43

Vegas was bad, yeah, and you don't get a dip cone on your way out. I will say this I did notice on our second playoff hole there was a group still coming in when we and when we and uh yeah, that's crazy.

Matt 53:52

Yeah, my dad.

Speaker 4 53:56

Yeah, is it the same guys?

Speaker 2 53:59

yeah, is it the same guys? Yeah, yes and no, it's a, it's a combo, so okay, um, I'm gonna have some chats with some people saturday morning and, uh, you know, it's just one. It's making us look bad to the golf courses, which I I don't want our image because we've had a really good rapport with the majority of the golf courses and I know TPC Vegas is a tough golf course and I know we were playing back for the teas that most people should have been.

Speaker 3 54:24

It's not really that hard, honestly.

Speaker 2 54:27

Well, I mean it's, it's there's a lot of it's challenging off the tee and when you get guys that are, you know, 16 to 22 handicaps, that's that can pose a problem. So, yeah, but we have rules in place to help with that and uh you know if you're not using those rules yeah, I agree, mike oh dude it's, it's bad yeah, chimera.

Speaker 6 54:53

There's no excuse, though, that course is so simple, no excuses, and so we'll.

Speaker 2 54:59

We'll see it'll be.

Speaker 3 55:00

The backup will be on um, what is that? Uh, nine eight, seven, six people trying to drive green on number seven. Yeah, it'll be.

Speaker 2 55:10

Oh yeah, bottleneck there well, the par three bottlenecks and then the that whole bottleneck.

Speaker 6 55:15

So but I mean, I think once we get through that we'll be fine yeah, we need to get a sponsorship from rolex to put some clocks on the keys. Yeah, right, uh names.

Speaker 2 55:26

Well, hey, maybe that'll be the the penalty. Uh, one stroke penalty and your name gets mentioned low player on the on the vgn website.

Speaker 4 55:35

Yeah, yeah, and neon lights on the VGN website yeah, and me on a license.

Speaker 2 55:40

Hey, that'd be kind of sick.

Speaker 4 55:41

That's how you do it.

Speaker 2 55:46

So I don't want to turn guys on each other, but man it's got to get better.

Speaker 5 55:50

It's got to get better End of story.

Speaker 2 55:53

Do you think Grant will use the new Tacoma driver if they're paying him to Absolutely, absolutely, if they're paying him to Absolutely.

Speaker 3 55:58

Absolutely, if they're paying him. I will say we did play with Rocky from the Golf Fathers on Sunday at Chimera and he showed us the new wedges, the new Tacoma wedges, the Brian Rose wedges, and they're really good and he's hitting them very far, very far. They're really good and he's hitting them very far, very far. He hit a, he hit I think he was 140 out and he hit a 54-degree wedge and it was right next to the pin insane rocky swings it hard he does yeah, he does, he does he does swing it hard so uh, but on our the vg and socials.

The Open Championship Preview

Speaker 2 56:38

If you guys anybody watching this or listening to this episode you want to follow along the vegas golf network instagram, I will post a link to the leader board so you can see what we're doing. Uh, and that dan. Uh, this is what I was talking with fabs today and dan said um, I just checked the odds and even though Dan's not playing, he's still a seven to two favorite. There's ten guys playing the diamonds flight that now have a chance to get some points because, dan, you know it's got call of duty, he's got to gotta work.

Speaker 4 57:13

Fuck that. I'm taking the day off. I'm playing.

Speaker 2 57:20

Fun stuff. Alright, we haven't done this in a couple weeks because we had some guests on. Let's do this.

Matt 57:28

All in or fold. I like it All in or fold. I like all in or fold.

Speaker 2 57:39

All in or fold so this is our segment where, if you're new to the show or your first time listener, coming from whatnot, or however, you have found us where we pick something that we're all in on, you know, or something that we're we're all in on, uh, you know, or something that we're we're folding on. So, uh, joe, you want to start it off?

Speaker 6 57:59

no, go ahead, okay jeremy, sure I am folding on bad behavior on the golf course, especially fights yes, they're not into it at all stupid. It's so lame seeing people roll carts and do stupid shit. It's so annoying man.

Speaker 2 58:16

Yeah, dude, just tame down the drinking a little you know, just tame it down a little, yeah, 100%. It's like you enjoy the golf course. Let's go have fun out there. Let's not tame it down a little, that's all.

Speaker 6 58:30

So bad man.

Speaker 2 58:35

Social media is a cancer. For this it's so bad it's it's taking over like you wonder how many of them are staged just because they know people are yeah and you know the the hockey player beating that guy up and throwing him in the lake. As much as I enjoyed watching that, I was like, fuck man, here we go again. I I love, I like him going I was not laughing.

Speaker 2 58:53

It reminded me of the old batman did all the memes people were doing from those too. Oh, they had somebody, somebody like like track man data on the, on the throw into the lake I didn't see that one.

Speaker 6 59:17

Oh yeah, I did see a flight. Uh, what do you call it? The outline?

Speaker 2 59:23

shot tracer shot tracer.

Speaker 6 59:25

I shot the shot tracer into the lake oh yeah, that's so bad, man hate yeah.

Speaker 2 59:33

That's a good one.

Speaker 4 59:34

All right, dan, what do you got? I'm trying to think Pass, pass, go man Pass. Yeah, I can't think of one right now.

Speaker 3 59:41

Yeah, I'm having trouble too. I'm having trouble too.

Matt 59:44

Go for it All in or fold.

Speaker 2 59:50

I'm going all in, uh, I, I'm going, uh, all in all in on mid-sized grips. Yeah, yes, going all in on mid-sized grips. Uh, had a wonderful listen. Uh, fans of ours, if you're a golf nerd and you love geeking out on golf nerdism and club data and stuff like that, I encourage you to go listen to the Sweet Spot with John Sherman and Adam Young. Adam Young lives in Vegas and they've been doing this podcast for quite a while and they had Liam McLeod I hope I'm saying that right on the show this last week talking about grip pressure and grip size and he's done a study on it.

Speaker 2 1:00:32

It was absolutely fascinating, uh, so I'll put in the show notes a link to that episode. So, if you even care whatsoever, check it out. But I've been my miss over the last five months has been the left. I've been hitting the ball to the left pretty consistently and, uh, digging in on some data because I was testing out the new X-Forge clubs on TrackMan and then so I had some good stat comparison between mine and, yeah, hitting it left a lot. So I went in the shop the other day and pulled out a mid-sized club that I had put it on the 7-iron, went out. There got some more data and it's considerably different. Not nearly as left, much more on target line. Today I headed down to the Las Vegas Calls Superstore which, if anybody's following Chasing Daylight Podcast on Instagram.

Speaker 3 1:01:35

Did anybody get?

Speaker 2 1:01:36

it. I don't know, no one's tagged me yet, but I didn't do the best at saying hey, tag us. So, Katie's there and Juju's there so they can tell me if someone grabbed it. I left a sticker and a ball marker there while I was there and picked up some of the new Superstroke Lampkin, new Reveal, revel or whatever they're called, grips.

Speaker 6 1:01:54

They're nice. The new grips are awesome.

Speaker 2 1:01:56

They are very nice. I wasn't a fan of the material that Superstroke has used in their grip, but since they acquired Lampkin, I was looking forward to their first release. They paid homage to Lampkin and they have their name on the butt end of the club. It's a really nice grip. I got one on my gap wedge that I was messing with in the backyard Feels fantastic. That will all be in play this weekend.

Speaker 3 1:02:29

Joe, you got anything? Yeah, I do, I'm all in, or?

Matt 1:02:35

fold.

Speaker 3 1:02:42

Go ahead. Did you run it already?

Matt 1:02:43

Run what?

Speaker 3 1:02:46

Did you run it already, right when I'm about to?

Matt 1:02:49

All in or fold.

Speaker 3 1:02:53

Yo yo, yo, yo, yo, yo yo. No, hey guys, I'm going, uh, I'm gonna go and this might be uh personal, but I'm gonna go in all in on hitting greens. We're gonna do some shit.

Speaker 2 1:03:07

That's personal yeah, you're over two now on this.

Speaker 3 1:03:12

I know, I know and I don't care, because it's what I'm feeling and that's where I'm going all in on. I'm going all in on hitting greens Dan.

Speaker 2 1:03:25

I'm sorry, I'm just fucking with you, no we're all in on hitting greens man.

Speaker 3 1:03:29

I agree, joe.

Speaker 2 1:03:29

I love watching the shows.

Speaker 3 1:03:31

I know, though, I know, but I've never gone all in. Okay, I've never gone all in. I did something every couple months, right, maybe two times a year, but you know, now I'm ordering shit all the time. I'm all in, just build it. You know what I mean. Good job, shout out. Shout out, brandon dumper, I'm following on, joe, there you go no, that's the thing man you know you always question yourself.

Speaker 3 1:04:01

You know what I mean like especially when you're you're stepping outside your boundaries and trying to do something different and uh yeah like, but I don't think you're stepping out of your boundaries you, I am, I you, I've always been you love rapping you love yeah, I know, I know you love talking golf.

Speaker 3 1:04:18

This is like in your fucking wheelhouse, yeah, but like to actually order things for your brand or your name is different. Right, I am ordering things constantly for hitting greens. Now, Now a year ago, I'd order something every four or five months, you know, and I'd order 50 of something and like be like hey guys, I'd show up to the Vegas golf network events and be like hey you guys want to buy something you know.

Speaker 3 1:04:46

And now it's like you know there's a lot of supporters out there, uh, in new ways that I never thought were possible. And now I'm ordering something hitting greens every week. You know, I never that's the thing, like when I sell some stuff on whatnot, I get money when it's delivered. And then I'm like I'm ordering something right now to bring something new hitting greens to people and I never would have done that before. And that's what I'm all in on is like you know, I'm shit was delivered the other night. I was like what can we order? Are we ordering ball markers? Are we ordering banners? Are we ordering shirts? Are we wearing hats?

Matt 1:05:27

so now it's a constant yeah, and that's the thing.

Speaker 3 1:05:32

Now. It's like what can I bring that's hitting greens, to the people that are supporting me, and like, try and find something new that people aren't doing and make it. You know, because I've always been like, I've always wanted to make stuff, since I was a skateboarder a long time ago, and that that's what I'm all in on right now. It's like what else can we do? What else can I do? Do we do? Can we do polos? Can we do this? Can we do shirts or what, what? What's the next thing? And that's what I'm all in on. I'm not saying I'm all.

Speaker 3 1:06:07

I've always been all in on hitting greens, but it's like now I'm saying I'm not saying. I've always been all in on hitting greens and for those that have been around for a long time and have always supported, I appreciate that. But now we found a new place to bring it to the people and that's what I'm all in on. I'm trying to because you know, it's ever evolving. It's like every week you got to find something, so I got to find new shit, and I'm all in on that.

Speaker 2 1:06:36

I was going through, I was telling Dan that I purged. I did a closet purge, which, for those of you watching Joe this Friday on whatnot I'm bringing a ton of polos over to try and get rid of so, and they're good. Polos too, it's not shit, it's good stuff. But to try and get rid of so and they're good polos too, it's not shit, it's good stuff. Uh, but I was going through all my t-shirts too, and because I have probably 200 plus t-shirts and they're all golf related t-shirts, and so I'm like okay, enough is enough. I need to chill with all the t-shirts. If I'm not gonna wear it, let's just go through it. And I had like vacuum bags of shit that when I was skinny, that I had that. I'm like okay I'm just gonna get rid of this shit.

Speaker 2 1:07:15

And I was going through it I found like three, four different hidden green shirts and I'm like, okay, I gotta hold on. Yeah, that's not going, I gotta keep that one.

Speaker 3 1:07:23

That one's not going anywhere so there's a lot of old stuff. I did that the people will never see, you know I got the wall, you know, yeah that was never even made. That was never made. Good stuff, it's cool, man. I really appreciate it. I really appreciate it because I've always been a creative and to just get my ideas out there is awesome. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 1:07:48

Dan.

Matt 1:07:48

All in or fold.

Speaker 4 1:07:54

My brain's a little broken today. I'm just going to say I'm going to go all in on this match. There we go, yeah, good segue Dan there we go. Yeah, because you know that's happening the 21st my buddy.

Vegas Golf Network Updates

Speaker 4 1:08:08

Matt and Brendan from Off Tour Truck. It's more than just a match between those guys. The proceeds are going to the flood victims. They've raised I think there's 3K on the winner's side right now. That's going to get donated. I think they've raised over thousands, a couple thousand dollars to the flood victims. So yeah, unfortunately I'm not going gonna be able to make that, but uh, I'm all in behind the cause. I'm all in for everything that those guys can raise to help out those families. Um, what turned out to be a drunken night of shit talking is going to be actually a pretty cool, pretty cool thing, and I am I am all in on that. I think this is a great idea and I think that this could be the start of something like this, Especially if whatnot takes off. You've got a lot of big sellers in the space. You might be able to do a few matches. You could have Hidden Greens versus Thumper the match.

Speaker 2 1:09:08

Did you?

Speaker 3 1:09:08

just call Thumper a homo. You're terrible, that was a typo, typo, typo.

Speaker 2 1:09:18

And then you see how he did it under the CDP thing too, not his own.

Speaker 3 1:09:21

That's all I got. That's all I got.

Speaker 4 1:09:25

This could be the start of a good way to raise funds for anything and everything. That golf community, that Whatnot has. It really is incredible. I've, you know, I've spent a lot of time in the rooms, I'm sure, as you guys know, and not too long ago I was watching GH crew and they raised. They kept rerunning wedges and rerunning. I think they did it like 18 times or something like that. Joe and he raised a couple thousand dollars for those flood families, the flood victims. I've seen Uncle Church raise thousands of dollars for St Jude's kids and St Jude's hospitals, like you don't see that much.

Speaker 4 1:10:15

And the fact that when you see all these buyers and sellers all of a sudden just come out of the woodworks and be like, hey, we run this, here's 100 bucks. Hey, here's this, let me buy this, let me do this, let me, let me support this way, like I've never seen that in the golf space. So, yeah, I'm all, I'm all in with this, with this. Whatnot golf? Uh, match and uh, hopefully it's um, you know, it's the start of things that uh started bigger things to come.

Speaker 3 1:10:35

Yeah, yeah, I wish I was going to be able to get down there, but the flights just suck. But I took the day off, so I'll be watching, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 1:10:42

Yeah, I'm going to tune in, for sure too.

Speaker 2 1:10:44

Oh, absolutely, it's going to be fun to watch. That's on the big screen. It's going to be a blast.

Speaker 3 1:10:58

Yeah, on the big screen, it's gonna. It's gonna be a blast.

Speaker 2 1:10:59

Yeah, nothing better than helping out some people when you can, yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to, man, we're on this together, man yeah, I, you know, roars did um when the hurricanes hit texas, he did a shirt, um, that was uh, I I still have it. It was just a the texas flag and in a golf logo and I mean he he sold those and and donated like three grand to the red cross, um, so you know the, the golf people show up, they show up absolutely golf's different, man.

Speaker 2 1:11:29

Golf's different, it's awesome to see the the, the local fundraisers that they have are amazing. I I think there's some people that kind of try to take advantage of it and and kind of you know aren't in it for the the right reasons. But you find those people that are man.

Speaker 2 1:11:46

It's awesome their passions and desires good or so good like. Look at joe mayo, I mean he's a big like animal rights, a big supporter for, for you know, uh, animal abuse, and anytime he somebody reaches out to him for with lessons or anything he's like, just make a donation to this charity and we're good, you know. So he raises a shit ton of money for that.

Speaker 3 1:12:12

So the golf people show up man, it's amazing yeah, that's, that's golf too, though, like itself, like it's, like you know, golf is the best it really is it is got anything else we gotta get off our chest.

Speaker 2 1:12:27

Anybody oh, I don't know hit me up for next gen balls. I was watching take five last night and he was uh selling shafts with callaway adapters on him and he had some gen 4 hazardous shafts and he's doing flash sales and there was like 20 of them and I was like, oh, for six because it all right, go swipe and not available, you know it's. It's like crazy how fast some of that shit sells for.

Speaker 6 1:13:01

Well, when you have like 900 people in your show, yeah, he had.

Speaker 3 1:13:04

No, he had a hundred fifteen hundred people in his show last night at the peak.

Speaker 2 1:13:09

At the peak. Wow, yeah, I saw it was just under nine hundred when I was watching.

Speaker 3 1:13:14

I messaged him earlier and I said, dude, 1.5k dope. And he said like, thank you, man, it's only getting started. So, uh, he has the drive. Uh, he, he did say he'll come on the podcast at one point, but he's just working on a lot of so he's busy.

Speaker 2 1:13:30

Yeah, yeah, just a little bit good lord yeah, good for him, though.

Speaker 3 1:13:36

Got like uh, I got a bunch of I mean, he was flash sailing maverick lefty paradigm three was he was, that was ridiculous for 35 dollars yeah, 35 bucks, brand new, right.

Speaker 4 1:13:51

Yeah, in the plastic. She's insane, it's nuts. I don't know why I didn't grab them. I should have.

Speaker 3 1:13:56

I bought four of them. Yeah, you have to, you have to.

Speaker 2 1:14:03

You can trade it in. You can trade it in for more. Yeah, especially with the Callaway 50% trade-in days.

Speaker 4 1:14:08

Oh, I know I fucking dropped the ball on that. I'm stupid so stupid, so stupid. Stupid. Why is everybody so fucking stupid?

Speaker 2 1:14:18

With my VIP trade-in too. Oh my god. Yeah, I was slight. I just, I couldn't buy, I couldn't buy.

Speaker 3 1:14:24

Yeah, you had to be ready for it.

Speaker 2 1:14:26

Oh, I was ready. I was like, and right before he's saying go, I'm like nope gone.

Speaker 3 1:14:33

Yeah, yeah, I got four coming though. Four, god, that's crazy $35 each $140. And I have four brand new Maverick Fairway Woods coming with the shaft, that's insane.

All In or Fold Segment

Speaker 4 1:14:48

Are they Mavericks or Rogues? The ones I got are Mavericks.

Speaker 3 1:14:51

Or Rogue STs.

Speaker 4 1:14:52

sorry, Rogue STs sorry.

Speaker 5 1:14:53

Yeah, rogue STs.

Speaker 3 1:14:56

I didn't see the Paradigms. Yeah, but yeah, insane Levels.

Speaker 2 1:15:03

Yeah, there's still tour players playing that head. They like it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, all right, everybody, make sure you get your golf in this week, the US or not, the US Open, the Open Championship. You know it's great watching golf late at night or early in the morning. We've got an 8 am shotgun. I'll be out there early so I'll have it on my phone Saturday watching it before we tee off. But then Sunday mornings always love watching the Open Sunday mornings. It's a blast. So, yeah, oh, love watching the open sunday mornings. It's it's yeah. So, um, yeah, my, oh, hey, I forgot to tell you mike's coming to town.

Speaker 2 1:15:39

Um, oh, I know yeah, he's, uh, uh, we got uh a spot, two spots at cascada for whoever you guys want to want to join. Um, you're in oh, okay what's the date? Uh, next friday, oh no, no, not next friday, I'm sorry, it's. It's in august, it's before the uh, highland falls event. Uh, so it is the 8th august, 8th, 8, 8, right after we get back from one, one, I'll take it, I'll take

Speaker 6 1:16:10

it. Maybe Me and Dan can fight over it.

Speaker 4 1:16:14

I was going to say, man, I got left out of one trip, and now I'm getting left out of this too.

Speaker 6 1:16:17

No, you take that one. I don't think I can do that one.

Speaker 4 1:16:19

No, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You take it, because when he comes back and win and Shadow Creek open up, I'm taking both of those, so go ahead.

Speaker 3 1:16:33

I. I'm actually curious to see what Cascada is doing with Cabot. I would love to see that. Well they're closed right now Cascada's closed right.

Speaker 2 1:16:42

Yeah, it's closed right now.

Speaker 3 1:16:43

Well, you said they're playing Cascada, right?

Speaker 2 1:16:46

But it's in August. It's just closed until.

Speaker 4 1:16:49

Yeah, that's what I'm saying 30 days. I, think 29th.

Speaker 2 1:16:53

They're opening back up August 8th yeah dude Mike.

Speaker 3 1:16:57

Yeah, five would be sick. Bro, we're not going to hold anybody up. Just tell them we're not holding anybody up.

Speaker 2 1:17:03

We'll talk about it on the podcast we played as an eight ball and finished in three and a half hours.

Speaker 3 1:17:08

Yeah, it's true, it's still one of the most epic things ever.

Speaker 2 1:17:15

Let's do it. Mike Thinking a night round, my mouth or toe. Are we going to go out to Angel Park?

Speaker 6 1:17:21

Split Cascada at night.

Speaker 3 1:17:23

Yeah, flashlights, bring your flashlights.

Speaker 2 1:17:27

Alright, Joe Get out of here.

Speaker 3 1:17:30

Alright, guys. Thank you for tuning in this week. Chase Daylight Podcast. We're live every Tuesday night at 8.30 pm Pacific Standard Time. Live on YouTube. You can get the episode on any of the podcast platforms Spotify, apple. If you missed the show, comment, interact. I appreciate you. Shout out Thumper, shout out Brandon. Shout out to all you guys We'll see you next week and until then, make sure you get out there, hit those greens and chase the Bay Lines. Let's go. Thank you.