The Chasing Daylight Podcast
Four amateur golfers in Las Vegas talk weekly about the game. This show is for the obsessed golf fan who likes to nerd out on the game's different topics. Look for interviews from insiders within the industry and banter from their opinions on golf's current state. And discussions about headline topics like the Major tournaments and the hot new clubs hitting the shelves. Real talk from real people who play the game.
The Chasing Daylight Podcast
343: Our Midwest Golf Expedition - Five Days, Eight Rounds, and a Thousand Miles
Golf trips aren't just about the courses—they're about the journey, the unexpected discoveries, and the stories you'll tell forever. Our recent expedition through America's heartland delivered all this and more as we ventured through South Dakota, Nebraska, and Iowa to play some of the most talked-about new courses in golf.
The adventure took us from Dakota Dunes, where we attempted (and failed) to drive balls across the Missouri River, to the nearly mythical Landman Golf Club—perhaps the hardest public tee time to secure in America. Navigating dirt roads through endless cornfields, we discovered a golf course that encourages creativity above all else, where the infamous "Landman Bounce" had us aiming at seemingly absurd targets to let the land work its magic. We invented "Farm," a putting game that might become your new favorite way to spend time on the practice green with friends.
Our journey continued to Tatanka on Native American land (complete with "ditch weed" growing throughout the property) and culminated at The Prairie Club, where the Pines and Dunes courses sparked heated debates about which deserved the higher ranking. Throughout it all, we encountered small-town America at its most authentic—from gas station treasures to our first taste of Runzas, the regional delicacy that had us stopping multiple times for more. With nearly 1,000 miles logged in five days and eight rounds played, this trip reminded us why golf travel creates memories that last a lifetime.
What's your dream golf destination? Have you explored America's heartland courses? We'd love to hear about your own discoveries and adventures as we continue our endless pursuit of golf's hidden treasures.
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What is up everybody? Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. Dan is here, I'm here, joe's here, jeremy's here. Thank you everybody for tuning in to this week's show. Been on a little hiatus, a little call trip action going on, so we haven't exactly been around. Thank you for all those that have been following us on YouTube. I've been posting a lot of stories on there, trying to get our followers to increase so we can make this show even better. Slowly we're getting there, so thank you for that. I also want to thank Garson Grips, proud sponsor of the Chasing Daylight podcast. Make sure that if you are not following Garson, you are now on their socials uh, they're all over the place. And if you go to the website and you're interested in purchasing a grip, use our code. It's on the screen right now daylight 15. Save yourself 15 on any grip order that you place. We love our garson grips great and fantastic and we use them a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, uh, we got a lot to talk about this week. Uh, of course, we were in uh, the midwest, in south dakota, nebraska, iowa, denver or colorado, even for a little bit. Yeah and nowhere yeah, absolutely middle of freaking, nowhere America it runs a country.
Speaker 2:It was runs a country, guys.
Speaker 1:It's a wild part of the country. If you have never been there, I highly recommend it. Personally, don't understand how a lot of people live out there, but different strokes for different folks. I'm a city boy so I'm going to have that kind of demeanor. Beautiful country, very different than what we experience around here very bug heavy yeah, so we're gonna talk about, uh, joe's uh problem with bugs.
Speaker 1:Uh, the golf courses. We played people, we saw places, we visited things we saw it was wild time. Uh, we got a vgn event this weekend out of coyote springs. We can touch on that if we want to. Rory had a great comeback. Uh, you know from behind win at the irish open, so that was fun to watch that. Uh, we're gonna be giving this away later.
Speaker 1:It's right here shout out the homie payment failed yeah, payment failed sirens in the chat sirens in the chat, for that right there also shout out 13 brewing shout out beds, let's go that is a cobra one length, 60 degree, with a kbs c taper 110 regular flex shaft. It is one length, so it's long it feels like a four iron.
Speaker 2:That's a sandwich, did you?
Speaker 1:did you watch, uh, my video, my promo video, where it's like a brand new cobra the, the ai audio. I said I said cleveland when I was recording it and it was like you know it takes a couple takes to get it right and I'm like I'm not doing this again.
Speaker 1:So I just went into ai and I fix it. So that was funny. We got you. We'll be giving that away later on in the show. So how to enter this is important. So we're live on youtube. Uh, over or below, however, you guys are watching this. You can leave a comment. Uh, comments, we, you know, we can share them on air like this and, uh, if, if you a comment, you're entered. That's all it is. That's all you have to do. Interact with us, leave a comment and sometime during the show we will pull a name. We have a random name generator for people that have left comments, only here, only on this feed, right now. So if we do pull your name, you've got to be live in the chat with us and you have to respond back. You respond back. Congrats, you've won yourself a brand new wedge just for watching YouTube.
Speaker 2:Interacting. It's the same rules as whatnot. Basically, yeah, get in the Gibby.
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Speaker 2:Wherever it is on your screen, it's somewhere on your screen I gotta say, is jill's an asshole or dan's drinking water, or?
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Speaker 2:Shout out Davy does it on whatnot. Go follow my man Davy. He gave away a long neck tonight and that thing was sick. I wish I won it. Old school Scotty Cameron pro platinum. I was hoping to get it, but Davy is the man. Love Davy. Davy does it, do's in it.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of comments that pop on in here. So there's a lot of comments that pop on in here. Uh, I'm good at catching them, joe's good at catching them, but if we miss something, don't be bashful. Repost it again. Uh, we will throw them up here and and I know, for people that tune into the audio version of the podcast, that may be a little annoying because you don't know what we're talking about. So we'll try to. You know, hey, davy with the comment, get in and we'll try to read the comments. So if it seems a little redundant, if you're watching, we do that so people that aren't watching can actually understand what the hell is going on. Because we actually do get people that listen on the podcast yeah, the actual podcast that goes out occasionally. So, all right, this is episode, what Episode of what?
Speaker 2:What are?
Speaker 1:we on 343 343, we got seven more till 350. It's basketball. It's crazy, we're, we're getting there, we're getting there. Hey, also a shout out las vegas golf super store, the golf stop, uh, and roars golf. All those people that are supporting us, thank you so much. Uh, atomic golf, uh, they're doing the joel's doing the player of the year trophies again for us this year. So, uh, thank you to him for his support. He had a bunch of stuff at land man, bunch of ball markers out there.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I swear, do you want to start with this? And, dan, I'm going to force you to interact with this. I'm, I know, whoever came up with the idea that golf had to be played with four people only. I hated that this past weekend because there's no reason Dan shouldn't have been with us. The pace of play. We only had an issue, I think. What one time yeah only one time. That was at Tatanka, and once that was resolved they were playing at 7-7.
Speaker 2:No, Dunes was slow. Yeah, Dunes was slow.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Dunes was slow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right, you tell the back line.
Speaker 4:It seemed like.
Speaker 1:But there's no reason he shouldn't have been out there with us, because, man, you were missed. You were missed.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but.
Speaker 1:I do recommend anybody going on a golf trip with Cliff.
Speaker 2:Cliff is the man. Yeah, cliff, recommend anybody going on a golf trip with cliff.
Speaker 1:Cliff is the man, yeah, cliff. I felt like I was on a break because I didn't have to talk. I'm a, I'm a yakker, I, I, I don't shut up and I'm sure everybody knows that about me. I I'll talk your ear off if you let me, and uh, yeah, cliff kind of has that in control. So it was nice and he's a digger, he wants information.
Speaker 2:I felt like I was in the BetterHelp app for about two hours, on our way to Valentine to go, and the payment failed and we were digging deep, we were getting into some soul. Not soul golf but into the soul.
Speaker 1:Jeremy was like just I couldn't believe it. I was just just sitting back going, wow, I haven't heard jeremy talk this much about you know, we know each other, we all know each other pretty well and there's just I mean, but cliff doesn't know us as well because we're not around cliff as much. So cliff had a lot of questions and he brought up questions. I never thought to ask, but I'm glad he did, because I found out shit about jeremy that I had no idea. Yeah, which is pretty cool, I told him. I said it was like watching a behind the scenes of mtv cribs episode, because I found out so much shit about him that I had no idea about. So we'll have to fill dan in on all that stuff yeah yeah, that was interesting, for sure it was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1:Cliff is very entertaining.
Speaker 2:He made the drive also I cliff became a better golfer after this trip he did absolutely believe it, 100 percent shut up.
Speaker 2:Brand man, you, you in the chat, let's go. But cliff, definitely, he was like I. I get it when we were playing, I think on the final round, because I rode with cliff on the final round, right, yeah, I did, yes, and he was like he's like because he was striping it fun around and he's like he was, he's like. I see it. I was like it's in you, bro, it's in you 100, it's in you, bro, it's in you 100%, it's in you, we all saw it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's always been in him, but he's like, I get it. You know which was cool.
Speaker 1:I told him one of the biggest things that has helped me get better is playing with you guys. You know, seeing the better golfers being able to pick your brain during stuff. I mean, it's helped me so much yeah so don't be. Don't be. If you're a beginner or you're, you know, trying to get better. You're a high handicap player. Don't be afraid to play with a better player. They will help you in ways you just don't understand dude.
Speaker 2:That's. It's one of the things I go back to when I used to skateboard. Right, I used to like I used to skate at one of the most well-known skate parks in town, when I I mean years and years ago, but I'd be like standing on a rails, like I'd run a I want to try this and they'd be like just fucking do it, just fucking go. And he was way better than me, but he pushed me to go do it and it's. It's just one of those things. It's. It's with everything in life, you surround yourself with people that are better than you at something. You're gonna learn and grow because of them, the people you surround yourself with. I mean it's, it's gonna happen. Yeah, all percent, whatever all right.
Speaker 1:So the trip started with. We landed in Omaha Massive airport. If you've ever been there, huge, huge, huge airport, a very small airport.
Speaker 1:It was easy to get in and out of, didn't have any issues, bags were there and Cliff got the rental car and we jetted out and we should have got the runs of first off. But we didn't know how remote the locations were. But we headed straight up to uh, south dakota, dakota dunes, shout out beds, shout out beds, shout out beds. Wait, austin had a comment here. I have to golf with better golfers. That's literally how I started and learned every single time. I'm out with embarrassing at times, but that's golf, 100 percent.
Speaker 4:And no one cares all you gotta do is keep up.
Speaker 2:All you gotta do is keep up. Fix your ball marks, fill your divots, break your bunkers and keep up. Nobody cares what you shoot. You say it all the time hey, beds.
Speaker 1:Shannon says it's called sewer city and beds want to know how bad did sue city smell, do you recall I?
Speaker 2:don't recall a scent no, it just smelled thick to me. It just smelled.
Speaker 1:It was that they, they were playing public enemy in the public speakers on on the main street. That we're on that's right, I forgot about I we were walking and they, they, they have speakers on the light post and they're playing music and public enemy was playing and we were like what is?
Speaker 2:going on yeah it's Susie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people were dragging the street. I mean it was the Friday night, hey it was. It was a throwback to you know a time gone past, because you can't do that shit here. Yeah, I didn't think it smelled. The hotel we stayed at was called the Warrior.
Speaker 2:It was very classy, very nice spot.
Speaker 1:A buddy of Bed's suggested we go down to the Deer Diver or Diver Deer, something like that Food was awesome Diving elk. Food was incredible. I had one of the best chicken salads I've ever had in my life. It was incredible. You guys had some burgers Brussels sprouts Fantastic. Some chili peppers. Fantastic, fantastic, some chili peppers.
Speaker 3:So yeah, it was, it was solid.
Speaker 1:We weren't there long.
Speaker 2:We were in a different place every night.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So we got to Dakota Dunes and I don't know it was weird because I didn't know what to expect. We're at a private country club in South Dakota. It's right in the corner of South Dakota, iowa and Nebraska. It's a real tight little area, a small little point in South Dakota and I wasn't sure what to expect. Beautiful, the golf course was beautiful, it was in fantastic condition. The everything on it was great. It was, you know really fast bent greens um, but it did.
Speaker 1:It didn't feel like a country club you know, and and cliff yeah, cliff has a.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know he's very hypercritical about certain things, but that's just the way he is, he, he, he notices things that I don't notice. Like he's very hypercritical about certain things, but that's just the way he is, he, he, he notices things that I don't notice like he's. You know, we weren't greeted when we got there. We had to find our. We had to hop in our own carts and load our own carts. Um, it was, you know, the. There was no direction from where to go. Uh, the, the.
Speaker 2:I mean, the people were nice, yeah the signs sucked that you guys need fucking signs. Okay, have signs on your fucking golf course. I'll just say that Look, have signs on your golf, fucking course. If it's twisting and winding, you got to have fucking signs. Cc or not. Have fucking signs, all right.
Speaker 1:Easy as that. Let's see. What Austin said is that loss of smell is covid symptoms. Better get checked. Uh might be have to be a new hidden greens shirt.
Speaker 2:This is have fucking signs on your golf course. If it's yeah, if it's a winding road, have fucking signs yeah, that that was.
Speaker 1:We ran into that at. Uh, was it the rim or chaparral pine? I think chaparral pines had an issue.
Speaker 2:No, it was.
Speaker 2:It was chaparral yeah but uh, dakota dunes was sick and we don't get bent grass greens very often and every green, all the greens. We played the entire trip was incredible and it was an absolute treat. It was very thick, um. But uh, I think, I think we played dakota dunes and we were like so hyped on just being on a golf trip and then we got in the car and cliff was like guys, it wasn't that good. I mean, it was great. Right, it's, it's a, it's a country club. You know, south dakota border with nebraska, iowa. It was great. It really was a sick ass golf course, but he's like just hold your horses a little bit, yeah, so shout out, cliff. He, he like reeled me back a little bit.
Speaker 1:He does reel it back in. He does reel it back in, he uh, you know the the pro shop wasn't great, it was okay, it wasn't great. Uh, where the restaurant was was kind of weird to get to it. Uh, we found the snack bar which, yeah, have a fucking sign, have a fucking sign, signs guys easy.
Speaker 1:The, the range was, was good, had a nice big chipping green. Um, it was muggy as hell. Um, we found out that the, the bugs hit a little bit different in in the midwest. I, I, I was fine, I, I didn't get, I don't know what it is. There's, you know, something in my blood? It's the hard water I've been drinking. Well, no, because joe's been out here as well that long same we're the same, yeah, the same, yeah, but the bugs didn't bother me as much as everybody else.
Speaker 2:They ate me, fucking live. They ate me alive. I think I'm finally healed. Finally there's still one right there. They ate me alive and shout out Shannon. He's like the only thing that will keep those fuckers away is the DEET, and we bought DEET in some random small town and they still ate my ass up. So it's gotta be my pheromones or my blood, but it was a great golf course. We got to try and hit golf balls across the Missouri river, which I learned about in like seventh grade in geography class, and never saw that coming and nobody made it close. It's very deep.
Speaker 4:I think the yard, I think the yard is off because I hammered mine and it was like 150 yards short oh, yeah, you you smoked it.
Speaker 1:I mean, I thought I thought you were hitting trees I I thought that was for sure hitting trees and it came up like woefully short. It sounded like there's zero chance I make it, yeah, but Cliff pounded his too and it came up short. So I mean that was fun, we had a good time, it was a good course. Dan, riddle us with your questions. I know you're dying to ask about Dakota Duke.
Speaker 3:Well, I kind of have questions. I want to hear more about all the courses. Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:So yeah, we go through so dakota dunes, we did dakota dunes. We stayed in downtown, uh, sioux city, at a great hotel, the warrior, fantastic rooftop rooftop bar, and, uh, we had some old fashions up there, which was fantastic. Then we went to the diving deer, had some great food. Uh, yeah, matt party pooper did not drink anything, which is fine. He's doing his thing and we respect it and love it. Uh, then the next morning we went to floyd park, which was a par three executive course, which was probably it was.
Speaker 2:It was more than par three yeah, it was, but it was executive. Right, we call executive, it was executive, but it was green as fuck it was holy moly no, and greens oh, that greens one of the one of the coolest old school clubhouse. Like muni spot clubhouse chairs. Old school super sick one dude it was cool, it's fun it was really cool.
Speaker 1:The, uh, let me pull up. I'll pull up a picture that uh, we had on the, if I can, but man, it was, it was, it was sick.
Speaker 2:It reminded me like just some like classic, like lodge green, golf course, shit. And it was dope. And we played, uh uh, a game called pinehurst which shut out snga. I saw on one of their emails we played that game there. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, that was the the kind of like a scramble, shamble type thing and uh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, it was it was fun it was. It was very slow going and we had to get to the land man, so we skipped like 10 10, 11, 12 and 13 13 so and then, but 10 and 14 were t's were right next to each other, so we're like let's just go to 14. And then we stopped at one of the dopest gas stations I've ever seen in my entire life. What was it called, I forget.
Speaker 1:First off, as we're leaving the parking lot, Cliff cut in front of somebody. Oh yeah, and we almost got in a wreck and they followed us to the gas station and then they waited in the parking lot and I was like what?
Speaker 4:is what is this person?
Speaker 1:doing, you know, because it was, it was, it was a little weird.
Speaker 2:There were some dicey roads right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cliff just kept going and yeah, but that groceries that it was a grocery store in the size of a convenience store.
Speaker 2:It it was sick they had it was like shop quick or like quick and go, or they had east sandals, they had jerky, they had pizzas, they had produce fucking meat like pounds of ground beef. That place was dope yeah, that was that.
Speaker 1:Iowa brought it right there. They will have to figure out what that place was called.
Speaker 2:They had dead billionaire cans. They had, I mean, everything Dan would want, just like pounds of ground beef ready to cook, dead billionaire cans. And then Dan said they had eggs. Dan would have loved that place.
Speaker 1:Let's see it was called Quick Star Quick.
Speaker 2:Shop, quick Shop, quick Shop.
Speaker 1:Oh, we saw a bunch of coming goes, but yeah, I'm gonna go. No, it's not quick start I'm looking at the map right now. It's quick start. It's on the corner of glenn and lewis boulevard.
Speaker 2:Well, shannon, I guess shannon the native is wrong. He said quick shop yeah quick star.
Speaker 4:That's not, that's right.
Speaker 1:It reminded me of wow, okay, yeah, dude, that place was sick I, I dude I with that place that place was dope, it was dope, yeah, yeah, I much props to that uh, is that where we bought hundreds of dollars Worth of lottery tickets?
Speaker 2:And we all lost. It was that one billion. What are you supposed to do?
Speaker 1:Well, somebody won in Texas. So from there, after we got done playing, we scurried over to Landman and yeah, this is Joe's new favorite place on the planet.
Speaker 2:Um, he said, fuck, abandon no, I'm, I'm a band in there, but it's close, they got it. They need a little more, but yeah yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know. We said uh, you know, bandon has a 20-year head start and it's coastal.
Speaker 2:We were driving on dirt roads through cornfields and soy fields and there's a golf course out there somewhere and there's a little sign, it's like a 4x8 sign and it's like an arrow up. This way it was just all dirt roads and I mean we probably traveled what?
Speaker 1:five, five miles on just gravel roads, through soy fields and cornfields and uh yeah it did not disappoint yeah, it, uh, it was, it was uh quite an experience and and ditch weed.
Speaker 2:yeah, that's the Tonka brand man. Yeah, the Tonka.
Speaker 1:The wild weed growing on the course that was so funny, that was crazy. We'll get to that in a second. But Landman is unique and we found out kind of in a different way. They don't give a shit Because we got done playing and there was plenty of daylight and we're like and cliff wouldn't ask hey, how much is it for a replay? Can we go back out? And they're like nope no replace.
Speaker 1:There's nobody going off right now. The course is wide open. We can finish 18 in like two and a half hours. Nope, sorry, you got your tea times.
Speaker 2:That's all you get, and uh, but for everyone that's everyone that's listening, so you need to understand like land man dropped their tea times and they sold out of their entire 2025 tea times in one hour, so tea times were bought up, I mean. And also we need to understand that we don't know if there was people out there playing or if there was people like playing nine. I mean, we don't know right, so we have to. I would have loved to replay, but we don't know what's happening behind the scenes. Probably not. Probably they probably could have let us out for cabals, but it's I mean, it's in high demand and they sold out in one hour for an entire year of their tee times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy. There's a documentary I shared it on my Instagram stories a while ago or before we left Great documentary about how it came to be. And you know they didn't go big right out the gates. The golf course is big. They didn't the gates. The golf course is big, they didn't massive, but everything else is very quaint the the rooms we stayed in, just shout out, shannon shout out, 13 bruin building those cabins, yeah well the cabins were awesome the only thing that we've said that it missed was a TV in the main area Shut up.
Speaker 2:Missed payment failed, we survived we survived.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2:We'll get there though.
Speaker 1:We'll get there. So the they have the clubhouse is small, the cabins are small. The food truck they have a food truck and a little patio area. The range you can Small. Small, like eight people max.
Speaker 4:But their clubhouse, let me say, their clubhouse is the sickest pro shop I've ever been in. I could only they didn't have a single golf club, it was all Landman, merch. Everything I can think of was merch.
Speaker 1:And swag butter covers.
Speaker 4:But the view behind the counter was unbelievable so good being able to stand there clubhouse I've been in.
Speaker 2:That was yeah I, I could see that, that's, that's yeah that's a bold statement cotton. It's the most unique, dopest most unique. Yeah, it fits perfect with what it was. What's so crazy, though and I just thought about this right now is, like the food truck small, the rooms are small, the pro shop is small, every the range is small, but the course is fucking huge yeah like that might be some intent right there, which is I.
Speaker 2:I literally just thought about. It's kind of blowing my mind at this moment. So you can talk, matt, because I didn't even think of that. Shout out, jeremy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and with the giant huge American flag, yeah, so it's a. It it's a different experience. You get to pick a. You get to pick a song for your walk-up song. When you tee off, uh, the starter plays dj and uh, they were cool. Uh, that was fun. We did the the harmonic intro day two. And what a tribe called quest song on on day one.
Speaker 4:Um, we wanted routing, but what's that? We wanted, uh, something else, but I can't remember what was the song I.
Speaker 2:I mean there was, it was that's a. That was a very pressing issue. It was very hard to come up with the song. I mean obviously chase the daylight podcast song shut out unwritten. Yeah, that was for sure, but you know, dan wasn't there so it didn't make total sense.
Speaker 2:But it's hard to it's hard to really choose a song yeah, it's like I mean especially for four people yeah, you feel like I mean like I feel for, like the baseball players like, or ufc fighters, or mike tyson, like how do you choose your song? But they're one person, but we're four people with uh diverse backgrounds and and taste, and uh, yeah, it was, but the only thing that saved it was like it's a speaker, you know it's not playing around the entire place, like no, it's just pointed at the t-box I know I think if they put the speaker all over like that pro shop and they're like like that can get way more.
Speaker 1:Like I really gotta pick a good song yeah, because, like a lot of people are paying attention right now to what we're going off to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly but uh, it's, it's a cool little tidbit that, like you, don't get anywhere else. And and that's the thing about landman all the details, all the details yep, there's a the.
Speaker 1:The routing is fun. It takes you over some hills, through some hills, over some hills. The bunkering is incredible. The greens half the, I'd say three quarters of the greens were punched. Um, we weren't aware of that, but it wasn't awful. Uh, the ones that weren't punched were so good that, you know it kind of made you realize how good it could be. But you know, courses have to punch, so it happens. Um, it wasn't an aggressive punch, but you know the I don't think it affected our putting to a point where we're like fuck this, you know there's only like three holes really, where it was like pretty deep punches yeah yeah, it's like they did it in in stages because the back end of the course didn't have any or it hadn't been done yet and so it.
Speaker 1:But you know you get that um joe found out quick okay, go ahead. I was gonna say joe found out pretty quick about the landman bounce. Um, the ground is firm out there and that ball bounces in ways that you have no idea it's going to bounce. It's unbelievable. The land man bounce. Um, the fairways are wide and very forgiving, but if you don't have the right line, don't ever plan on finding your golf ball. Yeah, although jeremy did pretty good, you, you found jeremy was.
Speaker 2:Jeremy was out there, though he was getting ate alive by ticks.
Speaker 4:I was. I was, I'd probably have a tick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was one point where Bob messaged me or text me or something like I know Bob would absolutely love that place. Bob West, as creative as he is, that place gives you so much creativity. You can bounce it on this hill, you can ride the ball here, but like it, just it. It just breeds creativity. Like the, the.
Speaker 2:The backstop on 10 is a full-on it's a 60 degree backstop yeah, 60 degree, 40 foot wall backstop and, and the right side it's like a massive ass fucking cereal bowl, but the front is like open. It's. That place is breeds creativity and I love, I love it and that's. It was really fucking cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was cool, it was a good time. It wasn't my favorite course that we played, but it is fantastic and I'm absolutely thrilled I got the chance to play it. It is one of the hardest public golf course tee times to get in America.
Speaker 1:That's one of the things that you'll see it touted the hardest tee time to get in america. Yeah, um, that's one of the things that you see it touted the hardest tea time to get. Uh, because of the way they do their tea times. They release them. I think it's twice, once in november, once in january, and they're gone as soon as they release them. So, uh, make sure you're on the email list if you want to play and if you get picked, book it and go. Yep, that's all I can say. Book it and go.
Speaker 2:I definitely want to get back. And they are bringing more stuff to the course.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I was going to talk about next. They have a putting course. Coming the rooms. I don't know if you saw Joe's video, but where the rooms are there's a back deck and they have some farm equipment out and they have a hitting mat and a shag bag and you can hit balls into the into the equipment. But that's uh told that it's going to be a putting course and it'll be lighted and that, I think, will be incredible yeah, they need.
Speaker 2:They need one more thing, whether it be I mean a putting course or a short course on one more course, or whatever it is. But, um, you know there's four cabins and cabin one is f seconds, a, r, m, it's called the uss farm, which we'll get into later probably but um, they all have mats on their back deck and you can hit into something and there's like a road. But, um, when we were staying there one night, uh, the dudes next to us, we were in cabin r and the next dudes were in cabin m. They knocked on our door. I mean, I haven't shot a slingshot in what is it? Probably 28 years, something like that and they're like, hey, they knocked on our door and they're like, hey, we just went to walmart, which was probably 30 minutes away 30, 45 minutes away. We bought some, uh, light up bracelets. We dumped the thing and we're dipping the balls. We bought like 50, 100 balls, whatever. Shout out those guys. I don't remember their names, but we told them about the podcast.
Speaker 2:If you're listening, shout out to you guys thanks guys and they had a big old thing and he's like, he's like with a, with a slingshot, he's like try and hit this beer. And it's like I felt like a kid again for a little while, which was cool, man like, but they wouldn't put some of the the glow, glow necklaces and put it on the equipment yeah, they cut them and put them in a plate and they're like dipping it in the shit.
Speaker 1:You know and so we had a target and we were hitting shots. It was funny because you hit the equipment.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah, yeah, there was like a. There was like a like a barrel and like a tractor. Out there it was.
Speaker 1:It was cool man I think once, if that they turn that either into like a little short course or the putting course, perfect area for it. It's down in a little valley, it's away from the golf course, so it's another environment that they could bring in, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they need one more thing. Just kill it.
Speaker 1:It would just absolutely kill it.
Speaker 2:All they need is one more thing for you to do, because you're literally in the middle of nowhere. I mean, you're close to Homer.
Speaker 1:The food truck is nice, though, because they serve breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Speaker 2:They don't close till 8 either, which is solid.
Speaker 1:And the food was solid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:The food was really really good. All right, so from Landman, we wake up the next morning, we play the day two, hop in in the van and we're out, and yeah, so we played land man twice, and then we bounced yeah, um. So next up was tatanka, which is west of land man, north, north a little bit and west real close to the south dakota border. Uh, so close in fact, we hopped the state line on the way there Just to go into a small little town To get a Runza, our first experience.
Speaker 1:With Runzas and tell ya.
Speaker 3:I want a.
Speaker 1:Runza. I want a Runza, I'm searching for Yankton South Dakota.
Speaker 4:Yankton, South Dakota.
Speaker 2:Yankton, that's what it was, Thank you boys out here in the Midwest, let's go Shout out to the Thank you Boys.
Speaker 1:So yeah, Middle of nowhere is right.
Speaker 2:Do you remember that town, though? I mean, it was crazy, we went through the drive-thru, so we didn't walk in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was a town called gazeville and we so bad wanted to stop at this welcome to gazeville sign and take a fun picture for you, but we we kind of detoured around it, uh, and there was a another town called heinenas, hyenas.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just some fun banter bullshit. But yeah, so we stopped and got the Runza, one of the best onion rings I've ever had in my life from that place Unbelievable onion rings. The Runza's were a hit. It's a fantastic snack.
Speaker 2:Why nobody else does a Runza is beyond me. I that's. That's what blew my mind is like we asked so many people like okay, we heard we have to eat a runza. And we're talking to people like where?
Speaker 1:do you get a runza?
Speaker 2:they're like only at runza. You can't get it anywhere else. Like there is a market out there for people to make runzas, like I was coming from Vegas. Like tacos are great, right, but there's people on the sides of the street making tacos. Like why is there not a Mexican lady or Indian lady on the side of the street slaying runzas? There is a missed market, guys.
Speaker 1:The runzas at the turn in Nebraska would be amazing.
Speaker 4:That would be the burger dog of the Midwest. Exactly it's easy, it's easy. The.
Speaker 1:Turn Runza. Joe sent us a video last night, a YouTube video about a guy that makes a Runza. So I'm doing that because it's really good, it's really good. I'm shocked I had never heard of it. Shocked it doesn't get more press. People probably there are like, eh, it's just another thing, but people like us that never have had it it's pretty fucking good.
Speaker 2:Dude, any golf course in Nebraska that does a turnrunza, people are coming.
Speaker 1:Easy, easy situation for you to escalate. I just did. Yankton is Lady Payment's hometown. Her sister-in-law is that exact Runza's GM. I love it.
Speaker 2:Great experience, shout out, miss Payment Fields.
Speaker 1:Barely under a thousand Wow.
Speaker 4:Can we get some frozen Runzas overnighted?
Speaker 1:Yeah right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm looking at you guys. No idea about them.
Speaker 1:It's a great sandwich.
Speaker 2:It's so great in fact runs against, overtake hot pockets.
Speaker 1:They just need to package it yeah, when we left, uh, the prairie club, we were going to denver, we stopped for gas and found another one and stopped again because I bought I bought two that time oh, you're funny, all right. So, uh, we get to tatanka and and way back earlier in the chat, shannon asked, uh, if we had any issues with the guy there, because, I heard yeah, uh, how was your interaction with troy? I didn't see if that was his name but dude was solid he was great he
Speaker 2:put some grips on for joe, two putter grips for me. I said I saw grips loose and I was like, hey, could you re-grip two of my putters? And he was like, yeah, I mean I tipped him 20 bucks, but he didn't. I mean he didn't know I was gonna tip him 20 bucks, which I did venmo, you right, jeremy, because jeremy had the cash. I think so. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I think so, but anyway, he, no question, no question, he did it. And uh, we were talking about vegas a bit, but no, no issues. And I was kind of, I was kind of scared about that too. I was like dude, this guy's gonna be a dick yeah, because that's we.
Speaker 1:We were warned by more than one person and uh, but no, he, no, he was solid. Uh, there was a group having their fantasy draft and the clubhouse, um, small little shop, had a ton of stuff, um, and uh, yeah, so we, uh what?
Speaker 2:Shannon says let me throw it up there he just couldn't have been Troy. He would have told you to kick rocks.
Speaker 1:Maybe it wasn't him. I don't remember his name, but I don't remember his name. He was there, was it was cool, yeah, but that that's plants, uh, that was weird. Uh, you know that, was it? Vegas smells like weed. So I'm not, you know, not, uh, you know, against the weed smell or whatever. But jeremy, we're looking for one of jeremy's ball and I'm like I'm like I'm like holy shit. I'm like this is weed.
Speaker 4:I go, this is marijuana so he texted the expert yep and he's like that's Danish weed, dutch weed yeah but man, there was, it was all over the place.
Speaker 1:Life on the indian, life on the res, so, uh. But we got to 16 and the skies opened up. Um, it's worse than cheap vodka. The skies opened up on us and dumped for one hole. Jeremy had a hell of a round going and then it was over. And I mean it's crazy because the course didn't even feel like it got wet. It dried out so fast. But we had a good time there. It was a great stop along the way. Uh, the guy in the pro shop said it's the, the cheap landman and prairie club. Don't know if I'd go that far. Uh, it's certainly not landman, it's certainly not prairie club, it is a cheap golf, cheaper golf course. Um, that is in good shape. I mean, it was in good shape. I don't think it was in bad shape, um, but it didn't have.
Speaker 3:No, I mean, there was a cemetery on it, which was weird.
Speaker 1:Um, I didn't get to see any buffalo.
Speaker 4:That was upsetting, yeah, but the views though the rolling hills was. That was cool oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one thing, I one thing. I found out that I, you know, we have mountains that surround the valley. It's a valley, so we have mountains. The sunsets in the midwest last forever. Yeah, true, it took forever for the sun to go down or for the sky to get dark, because I was like, oh shit, sun's going down, we're gonna be in pitch black in the middle of fucking nowhere forever.
Speaker 2:And it, uh it, it wasn't that bad yeah, brand man who's in the chat, uh, messaged me afterwards and I was telling him about the ditch weed and he had pictures of the buffalo. I was like we didn't see any buffalo I had a cow.
Speaker 2:That was it yeah, but no, it was sick. I mean, that was my best round, right? Yeah, I don't know what was going on. We drove two and like two hours and then, after we played there, we had to drive like two and a half hours into the middle of nowhere, which is crazy, and it was I was gonna say the bugs, the bugs hitting the windshield yeah, it was pretty crazy.
Speaker 1:It sounded like it was raining. There was, they hit. It was so crazy it was pretty wild there we stopped off in that little town that only had vending machines that was, so that was so weird. But then they had that. That coffee, that canned cold coffee was absolutely. It was a no sugar espresso latte. It was unbelievably good, but they make it there so I think.
Speaker 2:I mean it's like what's so crazy to me is like the, which I I love, right, like me, matt and dan we've experienced and bob with bob on the adventure of just traveling I mean we can get into this later, but jeremy is new to the adventure of golf trip, which was so cool, like we were in civilization, right, we were at the run zone, we, we walked into the grocery store and, uh, we looked out of place and then we drove up two and a half fucking hours from that spot not seeing a Walmart, no Targets, no McDonald's, and then you see vending machines, right, and then some of the best coffee you'll ever have, right, like you love the coffee. And then from that spot it was like 30 minutes and then dirt roads for 40 minutes and then dirt roads for 40 minutes, and then we made it to Valentine, like we're in the depths of the beast of a golf trip, yeah, and then we make it to Valentine and then we see the homie, mr Payment.
Speaker 1:Failed.
Speaker 2:Yep, who went to the Mexican restaurant 40 minutes away from his house and hung out for like 40 minutes just to say hi, shout out, austin, shout out Miss Pavement Failed. Awesome of you.
Speaker 1:I had to go to the bathroom. So bad, matt was a dick, matt was a dick.
Speaker 2:I'm either going to stay here, stay here, hang out and piss my pants, or I'm gonna go to the bathroom but that's what's so cool about golf, bro, and and also whatnot, in a way, like it's just like we bring people together, golf brings people together. And we got to see austin. His wife hung out for a little while and we almost hit a deer on the way and like we're on dirt roads and like we're in the belly of the beast of middle america.
Speaker 1:There's a cop sitting on the outskirts of town speeding and we thought we're gonna get pulled over and thrown in valentine jail and I'm hung and I'm hungry and the mic I got him fucking.
Speaker 2:they don't have grilled chicken at mcdonald's so I gotta get a fucking fried chicken sandwich and it's trash. We're so used to our comforts in the big city. It's an eye-opener in a way, but it's always a pleasure to meet people that love what we love.
Speaker 1:Then we stayed in the worst spot. We stayed in um, probably the, probably the worst hotel I've ever stayed in oh, I'm, I've got a couple worse than that, oh also also also.
Speaker 2:Also, uh, mr payment field says make sure you lock your doors because you're so close to the reservation. I'm like is that the reservation? Like we're coming into the reservation of our time, like to to check in for our reservation, or it's like is there a reservation out here and wherever?
Speaker 1:you can't take raises meth yeah yeah, he has a filter. He doesn't understand them I thought that.
Speaker 2:I thought the first one. I was like we're so close to our reservation, we need to be careful. But it was you're close to the reservation, but the indians the reservation golf courses do it. Right, you didn't shut out all those golf courses, yeah so but I took it the other way for a second. I had to think about that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's wild country, wild country. So yeah, we stayed in the room, got up the next morning early because we had early tea time at the Prairie Club on the Pines course, took the 25, 30-minute drive, uh, turned off the road, travel on a dirt road to the prairie club beautiful facility, um, it's the I want to say the 100 opposite of landman, um, big grand entry, valet drivers, uh, you know, hey, we got your clubs, hey, we got your bags, hey, just, you know, going here, everybody's, thank you, thank you, thank you. Coffee bars and nice seating and patios and I mean it's, it's very bandon-esque as far as amenities and appearance goes, like the clubhouse. I'm talking the, not the course, joe, just, uh, just, the atmosphere around there was was really nice and, uh, it was foggy and it was dewy. Look at joe, he's just insulted that I related prairie club and abandoned.
Speaker 2:It was cool, the courses were better than the economy. I mean the courses were sick, but the service I mean I'm gonna get on my cliff real quick like the the service was not great I think the lady.
Speaker 1:Uh, the night we had dinner. She was good.
Speaker 2:She made some mistakes, but no, it felt like I felt like we were in a pts when we were eating dinner.
Speaker 1:There's like no seriously right, well, we were sitting in the bar, we weren't sitting in the restaurant where was the restaurant?
Speaker 2:was anybody sitting in the restaurant?
Speaker 1:nobody was in there. It was in there the big dining room. There was people in there no, there was nobody in there there was definitely people in there, but no, nobody there is nobody felt like a pts while we were at the bar, so I could I could see how it felt like a pts we.
Speaker 2:I do have a couple issues with that place, but the golf courses were sick okay oh, what's your issues?
Speaker 2:I want to hear the issues uh, the sign for the breakfast buffet was garbage. All the plates were covering 15. It's at breakfast buffet. And then the plates were all covering, uh, if you stay with us or your guests from last night or if not, it's a 15. So all that was covered. Just, I mean I, I'm I'm not cliff right, cliff is cliff has experienced a lot of like great stuff and but I've worked in really high-end places and it's it didn't like deliver on that high end. The golf was great. I didn't love. Pines Pines was cool, I mean I get it, but dunes was fantastic. The short course was the best course out there. Shave your, shave the greens. There you go. Shave the greens on your putting course. Don't leave the putting course to rot. Wave the greens on your putting course. Don't leave the putting course to rot.
Speaker 2:Make a walkway from the lodge that's right next to it. You walked through tall grass. I was getting eaten alive by bugs. I had to walk all the way around. I walked 10 feet.
Speaker 2:The staff was fantastic. No, you walked 10 feet through high grass and I was already eaten by 40 bugs. I already had 40 bug bites on me. I was like, no, I'm going to take the long way around. Great golf, bent greens, fantastic, great turn shacks, great accommodations. I just it. Just. I love the golf. Right, I loved the golf, but just the experience outside of the golf didn't really make me want to come back. I loved the golf courses. I would go back for the golf courses, but the experience outside of the golf courses I'm not like, yeah, I want to go to Valentine's sleep in a Super 8 again and eat a fucking rock hard chicken sandwich again, just to come back here. I played it cool, and then it's just like the pro shop wasn't great. I didn't find anything in that pro shop after two days. There's nothing I wanted to buy they didn't have the stuff you like well then, okay, and they didn't have it.
Speaker 2:They don't have it on the website, which the website doesn't work. Took me two days to get on the website hey, the place is not without flaws.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I will 100 say that. But but the Pines course for me.
Speaker 2:Shannon, I got ate alive, bro. I am finally recovering.
Speaker 1:The Pines course, for me, was the star of the show. I thought it had by far the most character of all the courses that we played. It had a little bit of dunes. It had a little bit of forest, the bunkering was incredible. The tee shot shapings was absolutely fantastic. Uh, the greens weren't gimmicky, they, they were true greens. They rolled well. Uh, the bunkering was spectacular. The turnhouse was fantastic. Got to go by it twice. Um, the 18th hole, I thought, was a stunner of a finisher. The first hole is a great opening hole. I thought the par threes were fantastic. Um, it just. For me, it was a much more enjoyable golf course. Uh, the dunes course, I thought, was. I mean, it was nice, don't get me wrong, it was. It was a beautiful golf course.
Speaker 1:Way, way, way too many blind shots, fairways that are 400 yards wide, you have no idea where your ball is going it's. I didn't enjoy that whatsoever. I mean the amount of blind shots into holes where you have to wait because you don't know if the people in front of you are there or not. You got to wait to see them drive off. I mean we waited so much on blind shots. I just thought it was kind of stupid. Um, I didn't miss. I missed one fairway. That's because I I took the wrong club off the tee and hit into a bunker. It's not a hard course. Um, there wasn't a whole lot of challenges, I thought, other than the blind shots where I thought the pines course was much more golf centric, with with great layout, great design, great bunkering, the way that the, the, the, you hit shots through the trees, you hit shots from, you drive through the bunkers, you drive. I mean it was just, it had so much character and I didn't see any of that on the dunes course.
Speaker 1:Okay, jeremy go jeremy loved the dunes and so did cliff.
Speaker 4:I'm definitely I liked I liked dunes, but after, like, getting home and thinking about it, I think I would rate them the same I did. I did feel like pines is is bandon-esque. I felt like it kind of started out og and then went into trails and then came back out, kind of kind of how trails does. But, um, I think I preferred pines course more, but the like the, I think dunes is really. It's similar in a way to landman, in my opinion, where it's very vast and it's really spread out and huge, huge fairways, debunkering it's all target.
Speaker 4:I mean, I was finding the bunkers were very well placed. There is a lot of blind shots, though, which I don't mind. That the only problem is when you don't know the groups ahead of you and you hit into them two times, like, and so that's a problem. But I I feel like I would probably say if we were going back there, I would want to play 50, 50, I would do two and two or whatever. I don't have really a preference on. I thought the course was awesome. I didn't pay much attention to the stay in the restaurant. That's the stuff I don't care as much about yeah.
Speaker 1:That's just a bonus, if it's good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I feel like Pines had a little more character to me than Dunes, but Dunes was an amazing golf course and I loved it.
Speaker 2:so so I'll say that that we played pines twice, right, we only played dunes one time, correct? Yeah, I get. When I go back and think of playing pines, I get lost. I don't. And think of playing pines, I get lost. I don't. That routing fucking course you play.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, the routing, the routing. Go back.
Speaker 2:I'll have chat gbt, listen to every episode and talk about how many times joe doesn't like the routing because he gets lost okay, well, we, we, we played it twice, okay, and we were, we, we were in the dunes, then we cut back and then we went into the pines and then we came out of the pines, then we went back into the pines, then we like looped or something and I can't remember any of those, and then we went this way and then we, then we came home and then we went back into the pines, the dunes. I can remember every hole playing it one time. Okay, well, that's because you were salty. I wasn't salty. Yeah, you were tired.
Speaker 1:That was the best round I played was on that course. I wasn't salty at all.
Speaker 2:You just can't hang anymore. That's the thing. You just can't hang anymore. We went all the way out and I was like, did I ride with you, Jeremy?
Speaker 4:Dunes no, you were. With Cliff no, you were with Cliff.
Speaker 2:I was like Cliff, we went all the way out and then we're here, and then we're going all the way back in. Look over there. I remember, I can remember every single hole Playing it one time and I was tired, I was beat, I was itching from bug bites, and I can remember every single shot. I hit every single hole, every single approach shot maybe not all the putts, but pines I struggle with, we were zigzagging and I was it. Just like. Was it was cool? Right, it's not. You guys say it reminds you of Bandon Trails, but it's not fucking Bandon Trails, bandon Trails tells a story.
Speaker 3:No, it's not Bandon Trails.
Speaker 2:Bandon-esque is what you said. It's not fucking Bandon-esque, it's not. Guys In my opinion, sorry, sorry, dunes guys in my opinion, sorry, sorry, sorry Dunes to me. Alright, you got, dunes was very, very fucking sick and it almost was better than Landman in my opinion. I love Trails, right, but but it was just wonky and you thought it was Tom Lehman the whole time.
Speaker 1:Well, I didn't know, I didn't know, I thought it. I thought Tom Lehman had done it and but I, it's not like I. I was excited to play a Tom Lehman course, cause I'm blown away by his courses. It would have been the first. It was the first. Uh, graham Marsh, I played, it was. It was the first tom layman I played, so I, but I was, I thought it was tom layman.
Speaker 2:I was giving him major props because I know I fucking loved it. I will say I loved the pines course the first time, and then we played it a second time and I was like I could just go to my room, which is kind of weird for me, right. Wow, yeah, like I I was. I kind of just want to go to my room and take a shower. That's weird for me, though, right.
Speaker 1:Wow Right.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, that's the great thing. Everybody can like what they like. But like for me. I was just like eh. The second time, maybe, maybe a second time around dunes. I feel the same. I think dunes was master class and almost overtakes landman but yeah I mean that you know. Everybody has their opinions, oh absolutely.
Speaker 1:That's what's what that makes golf so amazing all right dan you've been sitting there forever. We're forcing you to sit here and listen to this. Give us something.
Speaker 3:Talk to me um, I don't really have any questions. I just kind of want to know, like your guys's rankings?
Speaker 2:well, we know, joe's we know, yeah, we know matt's it's.
Speaker 1:It's dunes landman. Do no dunes, dunes, dunes, landman no, let's.
Speaker 2:Let's give a shout out to the homie cliff. All right, you have 10 rounds okay, I I appreciate cliff's thing that I just can't do.
Speaker 1:That let's give a shout out to the homie Cliff. All right, you have 10 rounds. Okay, I appreciate Cliff's thing.
Speaker 2:I just can't do that. We're going to have to do it because, shout out, cliff. Cliff's a legend, so we're going to do that. You can say your favorite in ranking, but you're going to have to do it. You're going to have to do the 10 round thing because Cliff is a legend. So we played dakota dunes, floyd park, landman uh, tatanka, prairie pines, prairie dunes, and then we flew out of denver. We also also we drove like almost a thousand miles in five days and played eight rounds of golf and we stopped by rodeo dunes
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, we went to the gates of rodeo dunes all right, joe, let's you go, let's get, get your rankings it's landman dunes pines to tonka, dakota dunes, floyd park. That's the ranking and then we can talk about that's joe's ranking that's my rankings.
Speaker 2:We can talk about the rounds we play after, but yeah, that's my rankings jeremy, what would you do uh?
Speaker 4:landman Pines Dunes, dakota Dunes, tatanka Floyd.
Speaker 1:Mine is Pines one Probably, I don't know. See, it's tough for me, I take your hat off.
Speaker 2:Bro take your hat off.
Speaker 1:Why? Because I'm not a fucking landman fanboy like you. Uh, I, I enjoyed the shots at dakota dunes more than I enjoyed the shots at landman. I I thought playing golf there was a lot more challenging and a lot more golf for me, landman, weird bounces, weird kicks, weird lies, funky greens. It's amazing what they've done there. But uh, I, I God it's tough. I, I probably land man two. Uh, I would put dakota dunes three, dunes at prairie four, tatanka five and void park six and then the, the short course, probably 11.
Speaker 3:You're the best course we played according to joe dan what's your ranking no that was according to pictures.
Speaker 2:I'm kidding, I'm kidding I'm kidding, I just having a hard time right now.
Speaker 1:But no I wasn't, I wasn't I wasn't blown away with landman, like joe was, um it's it's. It's impressive to me what they've done there to be fair to be is my vibe.
Speaker 2:It is you can wear a t-shirt. There's a food truck, it's like cool merch in the pro shop, it's like it's like a t-shirt. Like there, the turn shack is cool, it's small but like there was like neon in there. So it's like it totally fits my vibe, 100%. You'd be creative, you could hit like little pitcher runners, draw skis off hills and things like that and you see things. So it's totally my vibe. So I'll just start there. It's like when, when we showed up, I was like I'm wearing a t-shirt and and cliff was like can you wear a t-shirt? I was like yeah I would hope so.
Speaker 2:And uh, cliff made me a little nervous. He's like are you sure you're gonna wear a t-shirt? And I talked to the guy. He's like I was like can I wear a t-shirt? He's like yeah, there's no fucking dress code, so that's my shit.
Speaker 1:So like yeah it fit so yeah, I like I said I I it's impressive what they've done there and I like the food truck thing. I like the little clubhouse that they had. I thought where they had the little bungalows was great. But the golf course didn't blow me away. I mean it was an impressive feat to see what they accomplished putting out there. It was an impressive feat to see what they accomplished putting out there. But it didn't like. It didn't like playing Bannon Trails for the first time. Like blew me away. Um being on the south course at Torrey Pines, which I know a lot of people don't think that's a fantastic golf course, but like being there and seeing the course, it just was like I was awestruck um so you walked up to the number 13.
Speaker 1:You're like this is cool I I that's my favorite hole there. It's, it's gorgeous. It's gorgeous to look at.
Speaker 2:It's a beautiful golf hole, beautiful design but it didn't like Four, five, six I would have to look at it.
Speaker 1:I don't remember it.
Speaker 4:I think the back nine is a lot better at Landman than the front nine. In my opinion, I think Landman might be my favorite course I've ever played.
Speaker 2:I could be close to that too. Because, I love.
Speaker 4:The greens are my favorite part about landman and I love hitting it away from the flag and having to figure out how to get it to the flag. And that's landman. Summed up, yes like you can pick a target anywhere on the green and choose where you want that ball to roll down to or whatever you know dude, you don't have to hit it on the green.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't. You could hit it in the fringe or the rough and it's like like number 10. Me and jeremy were trying to hit draws 60 yards right of the flag, trying to run it down into the pin. It's just like. I just love the creativity of that place, like bob bob would love that place.
Speaker 3:I didn't get it. Jeremy, you would love.
Speaker 2:You would love strands courses then yeah, we need to take care of this, yeah there's a lot of that with strands too.
Speaker 3:You can fire away from pins and you get up there and your ball is cozy next to it.
Speaker 4:It's, it's fun I love that I could spend all day on the greens at landman just messing around.
Speaker 2:Definitely. Greens at landman just messing around definitely. I do love this comment by shannon aren't all back nines better? They are for my game, uh, if your back nine isn't better than your front, but I think both need to be equal and in a way, right. But the back nine brings you back. All right, let's get into, let's get into farm and then we'll pull the winner.
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah In a way, but the back.
Speaker 2:Nine brings you back.
Speaker 1:All right, let's get into farm.
Speaker 2:And then we'll pull the winner. Greatest putting game ever created.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So we, after our first round, we had a bunch of time kill Before sun went down and we were trying to get back out but they wouldn't let us. So we go over to the putting green and we're just chilling A little soul golf bare feet on the putting green and went and got a cigar and Cliff's like, oh, let's play a game. And he started talking. And then we just kind of started brainstorming and came up with this game called Farm, and we call it Farm because it was created at Landman and we were staying in the farm bungalows or cabins, whatever you want to call them. So it's similar to horse in the fact that you earn letters for failing, basically, and we did this with four players because that's what we had. So I'm sure you could do it with more.
Speaker 1:But we're in the midst of creating a sheet of rules so everybody can download it and play it. But we'll kind of walk you through it right now. So basically we had Siri pick a random order and the player one picks a hole and everybody putts to it. If you're the closest, you win, you get to pick next, if you're the furthest away, you earn a letter f, uh, and then it goes on and on like that, and then as we're playing it so if you get to farm, you're out and as we're playing it, uh, we're kind of making up different rules.
Speaker 1:So if you, if you hold the putt from long distance because in these you know you're on a big putting green, we're talking like 30, 40 foot putts over hills, around corners and everything you know this isn't a six footer, uh. And so if you make the putt, then you get to uh assign a letter to any other player, and, and that made it more fun, uh. And then we came up with a, a way to get back in the game, because you know you're out there with your friends, you want everybody to play, you don't want somebody just sitting there watching uh. So if you, if you get m, then you're dormy, uh, and if you don't win the next round, then you're out to win the next round.
Speaker 2:You have to, you have to, but if you win the next round you're, you're back in and you have to win the next, still dormy, yeah yeah, uh, it was so much fun.
Speaker 1:I mean, we played that for like two hours and we were out there. Yeah, it was so much fun and, uh, we, we could, I, I couldn't believe how much fun it was. It's probably the most fun I've had on a putting green in a long time. Yeah, because you, you got a little bit of strategy. Do you want to go first? You want to go second? You know? Then you know, joe, I won the first round, joe won the second round and you know, we had no points, and then Cliff coming back in with the dormie. I mean it was an absolute blast.
Speaker 2:So we call it farm, it was awesome.
Speaker 1:I'm going to put together a PDF that people can download that you can print out and figure out how to play with your friends. But if you've got, you know, know some people and and you got some time to kill and you want to go on a putting green great game, it, it's a lot of fun. Uh, you, you find out a lot about people, about their putting skills and you know the challenges where you can assign letters and I mean it's. It is an absolute blast. So I highly recommend you guys get out and play some farm.
Speaker 2:Um it's the horse for golf, like horse and basketball.
Speaker 1:It's like you got to make it well yeah it, we adapted it to the putting green and when you and when you're dormy and you got a putt and you you know you have to win, so you have to get it inside the closest person to stay in the game.
Speaker 2:It it makes pressure putting and that's it was a lot of fun and and even when we were at prairie club playing it on their putting course, uh, I was like, guys, we gotta go eat dinner, you know. Yeah, we were like, okay, let's go play the short. I know we had to go play the short course. I'm like we gotta knock out the short course. Let's go. We got nobody wins. Let's go, because we could have done that all night.
Speaker 1:It's, it's fantastic yeah, it's a fun game. So, uh, if you're, if you're interested in that, you know, just send us a message and and when I get that all typed up and and because we have a notes where we were just just typing stuff away trying to make sure we remembered everything. It's an absolute blast of a game. It's a great game. Let's see we got anything else. Vgn this weekend at Coyote Springs. Dan, you played Coyote Springs this past weekend with Trey and Julian. How's the course? What are we looking at?
Speaker 2:Tradition, Golf and Animal Shire Matt.
Speaker 3:Tradition Golf yes'm going to shut up Matt. Tradition Golf yes, he is. Course is in really good shape. Still, the grass around that bunker's edges and around some of the greens is brutal. It's like a foot long. It's tough shit. So make sure you hit the greens.
Speaker 1:Hit some greens.
Speaker 3:Got to hit some greens, but no, it's in great shape. The greens are in good shape, probably running 10 and a half 11, so there's some quick putts out there, but should be in good shape.
Speaker 1:I cannot wait the way it's only supposed to be 86 on Saturday yeah best weather of the years on its way yeah, october
Speaker 2:we got two days of great shit. I might use this. I might bring this another whatnot call out. I might use it. I might oh, you should use it, I might I like if you, if you use yours, I'll bring mine oh, I like the feel of it. I do like the feel of it Feels good. I might bring it, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Dan's going to buy a Napa.
Speaker 2:Yep Dan already bought the Napa, I hope.
Speaker 1:Dan, would you rock that, or would you just shelf it?
Speaker 3:Man, I don't know, I don't know, I'd have to give us some serious thought I kind of want to send this this custom shop, bro, because this thing is great.
Speaker 2:I really like it. Sound of phase are awesome.
Speaker 1:The flow neck too sick I did not get my red and white landmine shirt. I got this one.
Speaker 2:Matt said Q&A time. Question mark.
Speaker 1:Go. Fire in the hole. We're always down for those.
Speaker 2:Look at this tradition golf flag right here Two hitting greens, bada bing, bada, boom Bada bing bada boom. No, but I might bring that. I might try and bring that for the tournament this weekend, which I've never played it ever in my entire life. But I might do it because I'm that guy.
Speaker 1:That guy. Oh, hang on, I got new sound noises. They uploaded a bunch of new sounds so I was able to bring over some of these old sounds. Joe has paid his side game money. Raise your hand if you haven't.
Speaker 2:Oh, am I first.
Speaker 1:Ah, yes, Dan, I haven't gotten yours yet either, unless you did earlier, I did it already. Check your Venmo. I'll check my Venmo.
Speaker 2:Hey, also if you guys want to donate to my son's school. I'm kidding.
Speaker 3:I'm kidding.
Speaker 1:His laugh goes on forever it's fundraiser season.
Speaker 3:Actually, Matt, you know what? Maybe I did it. That's hilarious. One partner for the Ryder Cup.
Speaker 1:We got to go.
Speaker 3:Okay, actually, matt, you're right, I haven't yet.
Speaker 1:Okay, you each have to pick one partner for the Ryder Cup. One Euro, one US Alternate shot. Ooh, thanks, austin, I'll have to remedy that.
Speaker 4:I'm going Bryson for US.
Speaker 3:Ooh.
Speaker 1:Hmm, that's uh, let's see.
Speaker 3:Where is it at?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's because of this.
Speaker 3:I'm a damn good putter.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Shane Lowry. Shane Lowry Bryson, shane Lowry Bryson combo.
Speaker 1:Um, let's see Probably go with Patrick Cantlie just to piss joe off that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 2:Brand man, that's exactly what I was thinking uh, I haven't studied the euro team too I don't know I'd have to look at the euro team more yeah, I mean, this is exactly what popped in my head right there, bryson fleetwood, you use in the two years double use, I'd go bryson fleetwood. I like that.
Speaker 1:I like that I don't know that, I don't, I don't know. I mean Scotty and Rory.
Speaker 2:there I went chalk because I'm always told I'm a chalk guy. He's a big chalk guy.
Speaker 1:I look at it like I don't know. I had an interaction with Bryson at Live and it just oozed fake, fake, fake and some of his youtube stuff I think is fantastic, but some of it is just just not real and so I I don't know.
Speaker 1:I would love to see you 24 7 you know, but uh that's why I wouldn't pick bryson. But then are you. Are you picking it for companionship and experience? Are you picking it to win? Are you picking to be, then? Are you picking it for companionship and experience, or are you picking it to win?
Speaker 2:Are you picking to be friends or are you picking to win?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I mean, why would you not go with Scotty? I mean, jesus Christ, he's one of the best players in the world, best ball strikers in the world, dumbest golf item you've ever bought and you're embarrassed to say I could tell you right now, because I bought it today and I could show you a picture it was $6.
Speaker 2:$11 shipping. Let me pull it up, but it's dope. It's stupid, but it's fucking dope.
Speaker 1:Is it to sit on the toilet and putt-putt thing?
Speaker 2:Nope, it is a Sahara Invitational Jim Beam used bottle from 1971. It was six dollars. I bought it today on ebay. Uh, you know, you know the sahara invitational bottle, the gym beam bottle at national in the display case it's the Jim Beam bottle and it says Sahara Invitational and on the back it says $150,000.
Speaker 2:But it's all the liquid, the Jim Beam's out of it, gone. I bought it today. It's sick and when I find it I'll throw the picture up there. We go, bram man, let's go use that shit. I'll throw the picture up there. We go, bram man, let's go Use that shit.
Speaker 1:Let's go, Dan. What's your dumbest golf item you've ever bought?
Speaker 3:and you're embarrassed to say Probably half the shit I bought on whatnot. Yeah, I don't even know, man, I'd have to give some serious thought to that, like I've never really been one to buy like trainers or you know, or anything like that brand man.
Speaker 3:You need to call dan gay now, I don't know, man um, oh, actually the well, I don't know if it's the dumbest thing, but the thing. But recently it pissed me the fuck off was I bought two used grips on 4RiteShow to get into the fucking buyer's givvy and it pissed me the fuck off and that was. That's one of those purchases that stick with me, yep.
Speaker 2:Shut out Levi.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, no, shut out out, levi. You fucked me on that.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to think. And the funny thing is, too, a couple of his homies got some shittier gifts. They paid like $55 for a towel or something like that, and he's like, oh, I, I'm gonna throw in some golf balls with you. I was like, what the fuck? What about me? I got two years grip. I don't get shit the fuck oh whatnot because of her feelings.
Speaker 1:Man oh man, I'm trying to think if I bought anything, I, I mean I've bought training aids, but I can't think of anyone that's been like I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1:I haven't bought iron covers. I did. No, that was review stuff. I got so much stuff doing reviews for three guys that I never really bought anything. That was like embarrassing. So that's a tough one. Like a cheap ass range finder. But you know, trying to go cheap finder, hey, all right, let's do this givey. Um. So everybody, there's only nine people in here, so you know you got a one in nine chance right now.
Speaker 2:Uh yeah also bidding on, like complete in box, nintendo golf cartridges from 1985 currently. Oh, that game is sick, right? Uh, where, dude, I'm trying to find it, it's sick. Oh, I sent the picture to ch Torres, oh and two people just left. So, one chance. Here we go. I got it right here. This is what I bought today. Look at this. This thing is fucking sick though. Las Vegas Sahara Invitational Jim Beam bottle. It was $6. I paid $11 in shipping. That's cool. This thing is sick, though.
Speaker 3:Does it have booze in it or is it just the vessel?
Speaker 2:No, it's empty it's empty. You have to fill it with something. It says $150,000. Sick, it's dope, it's stupid, but it's cool, it's fuck.
Speaker 1:So yeah, all right. So one in eight chance Payment failed Can't win because he donated this.
Speaker 3:He doesn't want it back. So we talked about it.
Speaker 1:Probably went way too long tonight for this.
Speaker 2:We did.
Speaker 1:But here let's, let's, let me bring up my share, my screen, so we can get it on here.
Speaker 2:All these guys need to go to sleep, right? Yeah, sorry, guys. Thank you for being here though, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1:Much appreciated. All right Ten entries.
Speaker 3:Thank you for being here Much appreciated, thank you.
Speaker 4:Alright, 10 entries who.
Speaker 1:Juju.
Speaker 4:Brandman.
Speaker 2:Brandman.
Speaker 1:Brandman.
Speaker 2:Brandman be rocking the W's in the chat all day.
Speaker 1:I love brand man be rocking you use everywhere he he reps the you use a uh love it if you, if you're willing to share it in in the chat right now, because uh, ig or uh um, what you call it, youtube doesn't allow us to send direct messages. Send me your or type in your email right here, or you can send it to me on Chasing Daylight Instagram.
Speaker 2:You can hit me up on DM, on whatnot. Also, brandman, I know we've chatted. I mean I've chatted with Brandman YouTube many times yeah just get it to us.
Speaker 1:We'll get that sent out.
Speaker 2:Also shout out Payment Filled for the donation. Payment Filled Legend Sirens in the chat. Legend so stoked. We got to meet you, man. That's what it's all about. Man. Drop your address for everyone. Got to meet you, man.
Speaker 1:That's that's what it's all about man. It dropped your address for everyone live to see. Oh, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel dan, I have, not I.
Speaker 2:They're gonna be in play at the tournament for the first time saturday, so might as well throw a new putter in there too old move cotton, old move cotton I've only I've only taken off the plastic off the 60 I still got. I gotta take this, the plastic off the 54 and 50 hey I will.
Speaker 1:It's a process I will say this about landman the cups are awesome. Good that they do that. The turn shack was awesome. They put one of our stickers, one of the CDP stickers, on the cooler at the Turn Shack and the lady who said she would ask then emailed me a photo of it. So thank you for that. There's also one at the Starter Shed and then there's another one hidden on the course. So if you're out at Landman and you're playing it, send us a picture of either one of those. We'll send you something.
Speaker 4:I'll send you a pink hat, like Joe's hat.
Speaker 2:Hey, Jeremy, was trying to get a little exotic out there I was but then I realized I don't wear hipster style golf hats.
Speaker 1:He was like hey, hey this thing is ups almost color that that I'm going colorblind. I think stuff just looks a different color to me. And then I get out in the sunlight and I'm like it's fucking green hey so payment failed.
Speaker 2:We're gonna do him a favor as well. If you guys are watching live, he's modding for dz22, which is also a very sick legend on the whatnot app. He's modding for him over there. So when we finish, if you're a whatnot or, go over there and jump in there and just throw cdps in the chat, let's go I think that's, I think that's everything I think so I think so, dan.
Speaker 1:How you doing, buddy? Thanks for sitting in. Yeah, I'm good. I'm looking forward to next week when you can actually chime in and talk.
Speaker 4:Dan, we gotta go to Nebraska. I wish you we're going when they open up, we're entering we'll go again you
Speaker 2:would have had a blast dude, look at this guy right here I bought the gayest hat.
Speaker 1:I love this hat, but it's it's green we need to go, we need to get.
Speaker 2:There is what we need to do. We need to get, yeah, to this place and dismal river, and dismal river and ballyneal there's so many places there's so many good places out there.
Speaker 1:There's too much man.
Speaker 2:That's the problem.
Speaker 1:That's the problem, yeah make sure to put some gay shit in that box I'm sending. You may not want to open this up in front of your kids if you have any, so that's all I'm saying. If we don't got anything else, uh that that that will be a wrap. Uh, thanks everybody for tuning in this week. It was a long episode, uh, we had a lot to cover. I'm glad we got to it. Um, next week we'll be talking about uh, who won the final major of the vgn season. Uh, we'll be up to episode 344. Uh, rider cup is the following weekend. The mitch's revenge is the following weekend. There's there's so much going on, so, uh, and there's a golf tournament this week the the fall pga fedex. The Fall PGA FedEx whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1:They're in Napa.
Speaker 2:Oh, they're at Fortinet it's called Procore or something. Oh Procore yeah.
Speaker 1:All the guys on the American Ryder Cup team are playing in it.
Speaker 3:Get in some practice. Except Bryson I like it.
Speaker 1:Joe wrap it up, take us, take us home.
Speaker 2:Guys, thank you so much for tuning into the chasing daylight podcast. We are here every single tuesday night. Uh, thanks for hanging out with us for a little bit. Uh, we've been doing this a long time and we appreciate your interactions every single week. And uh, make sure you get out there, go hit some greens, go chase that daylight, go play some fucking golf. It ain't all about Scotties, it ain't all about labs, it ain't all about golf bags.
Speaker 2:It's about playing golf and interacting with your homies and playing some golf shout out Cyrus, I mean dude, all the homies you can rock what you want to rock, but do you and enjoy the game of golf, because it's the best blessing you'll have in your entire life. I promise you it will open up so many opportunities. It will bring you many places in this world. But thank you for being here, truly, sincerely. Shout out payment failed, wedge donated and it's coming to you. Bookmark the next show, follow us on Instagram and we'll see you next Tuesday, because we're here every single week, unless we're on a golf trip.
Speaker 3:Until then.
Speaker 2:We'll catch you Later. Thank you you.
