The Chasing Daylight Podcast: Golf Talk, PGA Tour & Gear

353: Garsen Grips Haul, Miura Special Runs & How to Sell Golf Gear on Whatnot

• Mathew Wangrycht & Joe Keith • Episode 353

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A lot of golf talk happens after we hit “stop.” So we’re opening the door. We’re now recording our post-show hangouts and turning them into subscriber content—because that’s where the unfiltered gear takes, course stories, and real community moments live.

In This Episode, We Cover:

  • The Whatnot Golf Selling Playbook and building trust with buyers
  • Our review of the massive Garsen Grips Haul (Max, Quad Tour, Miura special runs).
  • The heated Course Beverage Rules and "Turn Shack" debate.
  • Why Simulators are winning against Topgolf.
  • Jeremy's first loop at the Las Vegas Country Club and the new Vegas course ratings tool, coming soon!

This week brings a different kind of haul: a Whatnot Black Friday preview and a huge shipment of Garson grips. We walk through Odyssey-labeled Max models, Quad Tour tapered and non-tapered, and special runs tied to Miura and national colors. We also discuss selling the right way—respecting buyers, curating honestly, and building trust over time instead of shaming bids. If you’re a golf seller on Whatnot, this segment is your playbook.

Next up: course beverage rules, rising prices, and why a staffed turn shack solves so many headaches. We talk about cooler etiquette, morning coffee, and how to balance a club’s margins with a player’s experience. The vibe stays practical—don’t bring a bar, but don’t punish a water bottle when the window’s dark. Plus: Thanksgiving plans, Paiute’s reliable conditions, and the wildlife that keeps rounds unforgettable—bighorn sheep, bald eagles, and the occasional snake that changes your club selection.

We also spotlight the Fore Hadley charity auction, breaking records with stay-and-plays and even a goat-caddie experience in Oregon. Gear nostalgia pops with hickory putters and persimmon woods, which tees up a candid take on Callaway stepping back from Topgolf. Simulators are winning on price, practice value, and weatherproof play. We explore how range-tainment could evolve—think mapped tee shots, chipping stations, and real putting—to keep social golf fun without losing golfers to the course the moment they’re hooked.

And yes, Vegas golf stays close to our hearts. A first loop at Las Vegas Country Club delivers tree-lined fairways, skyline shots, and a chill members’ vibe worth chasing. We’re rolling out a listener-powered Vegas ratings tool so you can rank only the courses you’ve played and see how the crowd stacks them up. Want more of this energy?

🔥 POST-SHOW HANGOUT (Subscriber Content): Unlock the unfiltered gear takes, course stories, and real community moments! 

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Matt:

What is up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. And check it out. Mike had so much fun last week.

Dan:

He came back. He came back.

Matt:

Dr. Mike is in the house. So please send all your uh medical issues and problems through the chat. Um and uh if if you subscribe to the show, we'll put that in the private episode. So it'll kind of be like, you know, we'll we'll that's your uh your copay right there. So Mike, thank you so much for joining us again.

Dr Mike:

It's awesome to be here. And none of what I say this show is any medical advice, so please don't take that advice.

Matt:

Uh Joe uh had a little issue going on at the at the homestead, and uh I was chatting on uh the Instagram for the podcast. Mike hopped on there and I told him Joe wasn't gonna be on. He's like, put me in, coach. Put me in, coach. So uh he hopped on. Hey Kevin. Kevin Cox is live. Thanks, sir. Um, so uh a couple things going on real quick. Um, first and foremost, if you are watching us here, then you are aware that we also have the podcast on Apple. So in the show notes right now, there's a link. If you could click on that and give the show a follow. If you're not following the show, that is by far the best way that you can support us is by following the show on the Apple Podcast platforms. Uh-oh, there he goes.

Joe:

Yeah, follow and like it, like all the videos, share with the homies.

Matt:

Yeah, but uh Apple is really critical on follows, not so much the reviews. You want to leave a review? Fantastic, great. We've got a recent couple recents up there, which is awesome. But make sure you're following the show. That is the biggest thing. Uh a conversation that has taken place with us several times is uh when we're done with this, we all just don't hang up the phone or hang up the computer and and walk away. We hang out and chat about golf life and our lives. And Joe has said on several occasions, some of our best content has come from those conversations. And you all are missing out on that. We're gonna change that. Uh, so starting tonight, uh after after the show is over, we're gonna start recording these and they will be available. We're gonna either one of two ways, which we'll decide. It's either gonna be available as a separate episode for our subscribers, our CDP premium subscribers. Thank you, for those of you who are doing that, um, or it'll only be available on the audio format. So uh if you're here watching us, thank you so much. If you're not following the show on Apple, hit that link, hit that plus button, make sure you're following the show, and uh that'll help us tremendously.

Joe:

All right, it is very spicy content. I promise.

Matt:

Super spicy.

Joe:

It's 30% golf, honestly.

Matt:

We may have to go clean, clean, so we can go dirty there.

Jeremy:

No more talking about Mike.

Dr Mike:

It's just it's gonna be I had to come on the show to defend myself.

Matt:

Oh, he was giving me shit all week last week because I I didn't know Mike was an actual doctor doctor. You know, I didn't either.

Jeremy:

He thought I was just like a Google doctor giving him all this advice. Or like or like hospital administration or something.

Dr Mike:

Oh no, no, no, no, no. I don't like administrators. No.

Matt:

He is he is a doctor doctor, and I I told him, I said, let me I changed uh his his uh caller ID on my phone to see if I can bring this up real quick. Because he he had he had to prove it, so he sent me a picture of his uh what was it, your mail clinic uh biography photo. And uh I said that wasn't good enough uh because he didn't have a coat and a stethoscope on, so I had to change it. And uh yeah, so that's his call ID now.

Joe:

Yeah, yes, yeah, yes, Christ. The only thing that makes that better is like if there was a Carolina Pines like picture behind him. That'd be awesome.

Dr Mike:

Yeah, if you could have done that, Matt, I'd be okay with that. Yeah, all right.

Matt:

I'll work on that. I'll work on that. So it's Dr. Mike now in in my in in my phone. So, you know, forever Dr. Mike.

Dr Mike:

So I just can't believe you were taking me so seriously if you didn't think I was actually.

Matt:

I thought you knew what the hell you're talking about. That shows you how gullible I am. Anybody's willing to throw some advice out there on how to make my knee feel better. I'm like, please tell me.

Joe:

Oh, he's desperate, guys. He's desperate.

Matt:

So desperate, so desperate. All right, so what Kevin say here? Uh, just an idea, but make it a paid tier and always add a way for viewers to join you live in that room. Mmm, that's that's something we can all have to look into and see. Yeah, we can look into that. So uh Joe. Hi, how you doing? I'm good. How are you? Uh, we didn't get to talk about you shooting 105 at Revere last week.

Joe:

Yeah, that's fine. I don't, I mean, you know, it's just the number, guys. It's just the number. Steve, I can tell you though, I had so much fun riding with my abandoned brother, Stevie Jacks. That was a blast.

Matt:

He said yesterday we played Boulder Creek yesterday, and he said that he had so much fun. And he goes, Matt is gonna shit when he sees my scorecard.

Joe:

Dude, I don't get to play that much anymore. I mean, you guys, dude, I'm getting invites all the time, and it just sucks. Like, I can't I can't do it as much as I want. So when I'm out there, I am I try and enjoy myself and live in the moment and do it for the moment.

Matt:

Doing it for the moment, do it for the moment. Uh but the reason I went to Joe first, uh, Friday, whatnot is doing what is what's whatnot doing Friday?

Joe:

So I don't mess it up. Shout out TNT Custom made Kristen in the house. Uh, Friday on Whatnot is gonna be absolutely crazy. Everybody is gonna be live. There is hey, chill, yo. There's gonna be no no fees for sellers to sell things, and everybody's everybody is gonna be on that day, so you're gonna get absolute steals from things, and everybody's gonna be live selling stuff because they're they're saving 10-11 on what they're selling, because whatnot Black Friday is gonna be absolutely insane. Everybody's gonna be on, everybody, and you're gonna have a plethora of options that day.

Matt:

Yeah, and uh I I bring this up not only one to help push the show because Joe does an amazing job pushing the podcast on his feet. If you ever all of you that are on here that are whatnot from the whatnot uh family, you know Joe pushes CDP more than I do.

Joe:

That's why you guys are here, bro.

Matt:

That's why a lot of you are here. So um this Friday, he's gonna have you. You are gonna do a show, right?

Joe:

Yeah, uh, we'll try and we'll try and we'll try and find our spot. I don't know when. We'll try and find a spot though. It might be we'll see.

Matt:

I was talking with Garson. Shout out, Garson, right there. Uh oh here, let me throw this up here for so people can uh utilize our amazing uh code right there. Thank you, Christian Daylight 15. Oh, nice, thank you, Christian. Appreciate that. Oh, I need that. Sorry. Um but uh I asked them, I said, hey, uh have you guys heard about whatnot? Do you know about it? Uh we had a little conversation about what it is, and uh they said, We're gonna send you some shit. I said, Okay, send it away. And so I'm thinking we're gonna get a couple grips. You know, they're gonna send us a couple grips. And yeah, they they did, but it was more than just a couple. So uh these are some of the things. Now I'm gonna go through some Garson stuff, not Garson stuff first, that they sent that they're like, hey, help us clean out some of our closet. So we've got this uh Bet and Artie tour department Velcro, really nice masters theme cover. We got that going. We have a Tailor made uh waste management, Taylor made recycled, brand newy. Clingy boy, right Joe? Clingy boys. Cleany boys, ultra clingy boys, super cleany. We'll have that.

Joe:

Not in the clean boys, but it's ultra clingy boys. Yes.

Matt:

We've got a couple spider-x uh head covers, right? We've got a everybody calm down. Scotty Cameron. Oh Scotty Cameron, only Veil Crow on Scotty's. Uh that mallet cover.

unknown:

Right?

Joe:

I mean by a mat in the vertical, it's only me and Dan, it looks like FYI. Well, but cleany, ultra cleany boys, banger, banger, bangers. Also horizontal and the vertical. Horizontal and the vertical, but hey, Chris, that's TNT custom made. Let's do I bought these. I wonder why it's made these Christmas for the wife. It's their earrings. Kristen in the chat made these Christmas gift. They're sick.

Matt:

There we go. Is that better?

Joe:

There you go.

Matt:

Yeah, there you go. That banner, that banner messed it up. Yeah. All right. Um, and then this uh swag cover, which I asked Jackson about this because I know he's Mr. Mr. Swag. Uh, and he says he hasn't seen this in a long time. So uh I don't know if it's rare or not, but I mean it's pretty sick. So all right. So that that was the the miscellaneous stuff. And so then they sent a bunch of other grips, and some of these are pretty freaking cool. Um we've got a bunch of the Max grip that's Odyssey labeled. These were made for Odyssey by Garson. That's the the one with the spine down the middle. The one that I'm currently playing right now on my Goodwood. We have that.

Dr Mike:

The guy can putt. So I played with Matt, he had like 23 putts. Yeah, I was rolling it well that day. That was that was a spectacle. That was fun to watch.

Matt:

Have the quad tour. This is the tapered quad tour. We have that. We also have the uh non-tapered version of that as well. Uh then this is I don't know if if anybody wants to help me what colorway you would say this is. But we have one of these. It's almost like Argentina, Denver Nuggets. I I don't know what the it was behind this, but Joe, you got a thought on that? Dan?

Dan:

What would you say? Powder blue charger uniform.

Matt:

Maybe, yeah. Yeah, that's a good hit there. All right, there's that one. Then we've got several of these. This is Viva Mechico. Yeah, this was a banter. Uh, these were made for him. Um, so we got some of those. Then we have these beauties. Uh, this is the non-tapered. This is uh mirror. So if you have those are so sick.

Jeremy:

Can I put those on my irons?

Matt:

Yeah, you have a mirror putter. Uh so we've got the taper and the non-tapered uh quad tour. So sick. So those those are smashed. We got a bunch of those. We've got this. Is the I'm I'm guessing Hendrik Stensen, Sweden. Yeah, that makes sense, yeah. Right? Um, or you can go Rams if you want to go LA Rams, right? So this is the and this is the quad tour. Uh it's smooth, it's a smooth texture, it's a tour version. Uh oh, here's here's the smooth version of the Mira. We got some of those. So much stuff, dude. And then the quad tour, and we have quantities of these. Quantities, they didn't send us one. So boxes, yeah, boxes. So Gars and Golf. If you want to get a deal on a Garson grip, Friday on Joe's Whatnot show is where you want to be. Plus, we have some other you'll have a bunch of other stuff. Ball markers. What do you what else you got, Joe? What's what's some stuff you've been hoarding that you haven't sold that you want?

Joe:

Uh, I have a shit ton of hats. I have so many dope ass polos. Um, but those will be those will probably be special shows. Um, I still have a bunch of hidden greens hats. I'm waiting on uh some wedges that are coming in. I might do my Scotty, I don't know. Uh at this point, it we're weighing it. Hey, shout out to all everybody on that app, dude. It's so hard to source and and build shows and um have like an actual timeline when you're gonna go and like you're there Friday night, you're there Wednesday night. It's it's not easy, guys. So uh it's it is a lot of work. Uh all I can tell you is I don't know when I'm going on, so bookmark any show that I have up. And when I pop on, I pop on. I popped on last night, I had a bunch of fun. Uh, if anyone is here, hey Steven, shout out Michigan. Anyone that is here on this show that is new and was in my show last night, like that was a fun one. Appreciate you being here. Uh, like I said last night, my goal has always been to get you guys here to the podcast. Uh, and also push the Hit and Greens brand. And uh yeah, it's I I go when I can. I you know, I got a I got a full life job, two kids. I don't even get to play golf anymore, so it's fun talking golf and sharing cool brands and cool things. And uh this is where you'll see me every Tuesday. I can't commit to Wednesdays for whatnot, but I can commit to Tuesdays right here at Chasing Daylight Podcast. So if you want to come say what up, we're here Tuesday nights for the last 353 weeks. So uh but bookmark all the shows, I pop in when I can, and you know.

Matt:

We are nine episodes away from you being able to listen to an episode every single day for a year. That's kind of crazy, right? Somebody do that, please. That is crazy. Uh hey, but if you don't tune into Joe's show, we've got this code Daylight15. You can use it at the Garson Golf website and uh save yourself some money. This new performance pack that I got back here is really nice, comes with three different grips, some T's, uh uh some markers, a towel. The towel is how good is a towel, Jeremy.

Jeremy:

Towel is great.

Matt:

Yeah, used it yesterday. Awesome towel, uh one of the best little small towels I I think that I've seen in a long time. I knew, but I was there. All right. Uh so Friday, keep an eye. Go go to Joe's whatnot channel and I'll I'll post it in the show notes so you can you can see it catch a link right to it and uh make sure you have the little bell on and when he hops on you'll get a notification on your phone. I think it automatically does that because I've had to turn off like a hundred yeah, I get notifications all the time.

Joe:

Also, if you're a seller, send me your shows in my in my messages. If I can be there, I will, but full life I can't, but I'll do my best to stop in and say hi and potentially buy something for you or tip you or whatever I could do. But the good people on whatnot are good, the bad people on whatnot are bad. So support the real ones, and that's it.

Matt:

The bad or bad? What it's it's Joe Kidding.

Dr Mike:

As a non-seller on whatnot, someone who just spends too much money on whatnot just for you know golf stuff. It's real clear, like the people who are very genuine and are doing it because it's fun. Um, you know, I buy once in a while on whatnot random stuff. It's usually, you know, like what you see here, like a flag or something. But uh it's very clear people like Joe who do it for its cliche, but the love of the game, you know, just doing it to build a community, stuff like that. Um, you know, you go into other rooms and there's people that are criticizing their people that are in the room buying things from them for not spending enough money, and like, you know, oh, this is going for ridiculous. Like, or what are you people stupid? Like, people will say that to their to the people they're selling to. Like, what are you people stupid? You're not spending all this money. Yeah, Joe, you know what I mean, right? Like, there's there's sellers that will literally yell at the people that are buying from them. Be like, what are you dumb? Like, why aren't you spending more money? It's like that's a great way to convince people to buy from you, like exactly.

Joe:

Which I do understand it's uh it's some of their livelihoods, but you know, as sellers we take the risk, and as buyers we take the risk, and people that are enjoyable to watch and and hang with are gonna last all that out, just like everything in the world, you know. Like so, uh yeah.

Dr Mike:

I mean well, basics of uh you know, buying and selling, don't insult your buyers. True, yeah, true. Yeah, that helps goes a long way.

Dan:

That's across the whole platform, though. Sorry, go ahead, Matt.

Matt:

No, no, go. I was gonna segue, so continue.

Dan:

I was gonna say that because kind of goes across the whole platform because I've been in a couple other shows like with sports memoria and like like shoes and stuff like that, and there's some sellers that do the same shit. They're like, You guys are robbing us, you know, just being dicks for no reason.

Matt:

It's I I don't know if it's it's like a thousand dollar ball sleeves only.

Joe:

Here's the thing if you if you're doing I mean if you're doing sleeves limited buyers, like that's fine. People know what they're getting into, you know, and that's on the buyer, right? But you know, that's it. Say hi, Theo.

Speaker:

Hi Theo.

Joe:

Hi what's up, Theo? So yeah, I mean just use human decency and you know, respect your community and your buyers, and you know that doesn't exist. You know what I mean? Like it's golf, dude. It's golf. Treat it the way you would the course and and me leave it better than you left it, you know. All right. Yep.

Matt:

So this uh happened yesterday, and it's not like a crazy situation, it's not wild, it may not even be entertaining, but I'm gonna talk about it anyways. Uh, we were playing out at Boulder Creek and we were making the turn, and we had some Boulder Creek regulars behind us that were like pushing us. We we played in 3 30 and we were pushed like every hole. They were like, you know, we're walking to the green, and there's three balls in the fairway 100 yards from the green. You know, we were getting pushed, and uh, so Jeremy goes in to get get something to drink, and there was just like no desire to like cater to his needs. You know, he's standing there and just can't get anybody to pay attention to get something to drink. So we just he said, Yeah, the hell with this. I know we're getting pushed, let's go. We'll just hit up the cart girl. Um, but what's your guys' thoughts on courses not wanting you to bring stuff with you, like a couple drinks or some snacks? Are you are you do you understand why they don't? Or is it with the way prices are for snacks and beverages now at golf courses? I mean, it's not as bad as going to a knights or a raiders game, but it's uh it's getting up there, you know. Uh six bucks for a uh a Diet Coke and you know, uh just spending $30 on a couple bags of peanuts, uh a coffee and a Diet Coke. Um, do you think they need to hey relax a little bit on you can't bring anything with you? Or honestly, I haven't been asked to empty my bag my bag in forever.

Jeremy:

I think it's the cooler guys. I think it's the guys that bring coolers full alcohol. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, I don't care.

Dr Mike:

Yeah, you can't bring a cooler onto a course. I mean, that's just you're you're shoving your, you know, you're shoving your chin out and saying, you know, come, you know, challenge me. But you know, Matt, I think you're you're asking two separate questions here a little bit, and it's a the price gouging of everything, and B, is it cool to bring, you know, drink it. It's tough in in your scenario, Jeremy, like I think if if if there's not stuff for sale, or if they're not like readily available to help you, um, you know, that's one thing. They can't get on you for for taking something out of your bag and drinking it. I I I do give a little bit of grace to courses. I know that like restaurants and bars, you know, the margins for stuff like alcohol, that's that's where they make their money. Um so uh yeah, um, to your point, Matt, you can't have someone bring a cooler of beer or liquor on because it's just gonna it's gonna torch their their profits. But if there's nothing available or if there's no one staffing the you know the turn shack, then you can't really blame people for pulling a water or a soda out of their bag because it's not available otherwise. You know, it's like a it's like a restaurant that doesn't serve alcohol that lets you bring in a bottle of wine, you know.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, yeah.

Joe:

Corking fee, trying to corking fee, maybe. Um, but some courses don't even have turn shacks, you know, and it's you know, I think it's I think it's uh a little crazy if you bring 12 beers, you know. If you bring three, four maybe get you through those lull times before you see the cart girl or get to the turn shack, you know, one or two, but you can also buy those at the beginning, you know. Like if you I mean, there's also people with dietary restrictions, like you know, maybe I can only drink this, you know what I mean? So but get yourself a turn shack if you're a golf course, just get a turn shack. Everybody's gonna be happier, everyone will be happier. I promise you that.

Matt:

And you're gonna make more money, you're gonna make more money if you have a turn shacking. For morning rounds, I'll always have my like uh my Yeti full of coffee, and it's you know, it's it's like a 26 ounce, it's nothing, it's not a big Stanley.

Joe:

Um, and then I'll have and then he'll always say uh and on like hole 13, he'll always say, Oh, my coffee's still hot. Right? Am I right?

Matt:

Right, it's always surprises me every time, it surprises me every time, but then I'll I'll have a liquid death in the bag and uh uncrustable.

Dr Mike:

I feel like the coffee in the morning is sort of a pass. Like, if I have coffee, like in Wisconsin, there's um there's gas stations called Quick Trips, and it's basically the essential stop before you're going to the course at 7 a.m. And you get a coffee. I I don't even uh there's no hiding. I just walk up to the you know, I check in with a quick trip coffee in my hand. I've never gotten stopped, like, hey, you can't bring the you know your coffee. I feel like the morning coffee is a baby. No, that's trash. Like, yeah, the morning coffee is a pass. You you're halfway into it when you get there. If if that that would be ridiculous, you know. I feel like something like that is a pass, but really I think it's the booze because it the booze is it's the booze, it's the booze, you know. It it's where courses make their money, and if they sell it and make it readily available, then you probably shouldn't bring it in, you know. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. All right. If you're gonna complain, have a turn check. Yeah, have a turn check.

Matt:

Yep, 100% have somebody staffed at the turn check.

Dr Mike:

Now, I've also heard horror stories of starters digging through bags, which unless there's something that's very obvious, I think that's a little ridiculous.

Matt:

I don't know. I mean, yeah, what does anybody know the legalities of that?

Dr Mike:

A liquor stick, anybody got a liquor stick in their bag? Yeah, I I don't know what the legalities are, but I just think it's ridiculous. Like if you're gonna go that hardcore, you're gonna turn people off from coming back at some point, you know.

Matt:

Yeah, I mean, they might not like what they find in my bag. Especially if we're playing Desert Pines.

Speaker 6:

That's true.

Matt:

Uh all right. So that being said, it's Thanksgiving week, and uh don't have anything planned to talk about Thanksgiving. Uh, but what's what's everybody doing? What's what's the plans for uh first of all?

Joe:

We you you started that wrong. We have to say happy Thanksgiving to everybody. We don't have any plans for Thanksgiving. You don't have any plans for happy Thanksgiving. No, we do, but you should say, hey, happy Thanksgiving to everybody. What do you guys got going on? Anyone got anything going on?

Matt:

I I'm getting chastised for how I talk on the show.

Joe:

No, I'm just saying hey, happy Thanksgiving to everybody. I just want to say that. That I would that was my main goal. Hey, happy Thanksgiving! We just want to say happy Thanksgiving to everybody.

Matt:

But I want to know what everybody's doing. What are you doing for the for the the festivist?

Dan:

Same old shit, meeting up with family, doing the same Thanksgiving shit.

Matt:

Mike, what are you doing? What's your plans?

Dr Mike:

Uh no, I actually I finished a work stretch yesterday, and I am now uh tomorrow morning driving through Wisconsin's first winter storm to go to Milwaukee. So that'll be fun. See the fam, see the kids, my siblings' kids, not my own.

Joe:

I was gonna say, I didn't know that.

Dr Mike:

No, yeah. So we'll hang out for a couple days over there and then coming back here for work and watching the auction and pumping the auction on Instagram. So, yeah, for Hadley auction. Get up in there.

Matt:

It's already setting records. We'll get to that get to that in a minute. Jeremy, what are you doing?

Jeremy:

Uh, we're going up to Utah, family stuff, and then coming back in time to play golf on the weekend.

Matt:

Nice, nice. Dan, you're just you going down to have a few, or no.

Dan:

I'll be I'm gonna be here in town. Uh my uh sister got a brand new place, so she's gonna do the whole, you know, look at my new house, Thanksgiving dinner. Nice family coming to town. I'm sure a couple of her friends will be there, but uh no, looking forward to it. Yeah, yeah.

Matt:

Emma's in New York. Uh Erica and Brooklyn just left for Disneyland. They're they wanted to go to Disneyland over to the holiday break, and I said, Have at it, have fun.

Jeremy:

You gotta you're gonna go to Cracker Barrel?

Matt:

Uh yeah.

Jeremy:

Yeah.

Matt:

No, I'm I'm going over to Trey's. Uh, gonna go to Trace. I'm making a uh sweet potato casserole dish that uh one of Erica's uh aunts is famous recipe. She sent it to me. Oh shit. It is an amazing, amazing dish. I just hope I can come this close to making it as good as she does. Uh so there's all kinds of there's all kinds of stuff going on over trays, a bunch of people coming over. So nice.

Joe:

Um I am I I am off the next three days, except I gotta pop into work Thursday morning to take some things down. But I am gonna take Theo to go play golf tomorrow somewhere. Uh we haven't been out in a long time. He hasn't got out on the golf course in a long time, but Katie works, Quinn's at school tomorrow, Theo's off school, so we're gonna go do that tomorrow. From Stoked on, he's been asking forever. Um, but yeah, I've been popping around two houses.

Matt:

They're still spot at uh Paiu tomorrow.

Joe:

Boyd? No, he he's dead to me. He's dead to me. Oh, yeah, I'm dead to him, supposedly. Yeah, we're dead to him. Uh oh. No, but I don't think I don't think Theo can handle that. It's it's been a while. I don't think he's been on the golf course since Rams Hill when we went, so it's it's been a long time.

Dan:

He's been in the driving range, but uh and I have it, right?

Joe:

He's been to Rams Hill.

Matt:

How disturbing is that?

Dr Mike:

Is is Paiute uh fresh off an overseed? Do they do an overseed there?

Matt:

They yeah, they do, but it's back in September.

Dr Mike:

Okay, so are they pretty good right now then? I'm assuming they're pretty prime. It's always good, always good, always good. Yeah, Piute. I've never played it when it was bad. I don't think it ever is bad. It's never bad. Generally, a right after an overseed courses are I played Quintero once right after an overseed, and it was oh, it was so good. Perfect. Oh, I'm sure. Oh, I'm sure. And I played Weekopah that same that same trip, and they were both fresh off an overseed, and it was awesome.

Matt:

The things that can go bad at Pyute are, of course, uh wind, cold wind in the winter. When it's blowing 30 miles an hour and it's 36 degrees outside, it's I'm terrible. Occasionally you'll get the uh the grasshopper invasion. That's right. Yeah, occasionally that that can be a trip. Because when when you're in the face with grasshoppers that you're driving, it's it's it's nasty. So yeah. No, I'm playing there playing there tomorrow. Trey, myself, Matt Boyd, and a player to be named that has no name. Uh it's like it's just gonna be three of us. Because Jeremy said no. Dan said 750. Yeah, that's too early for Theo to come. And uh everybody else said no. So Julian's working. So I said it looks like we're going as a three-ball.

Joe:

So could be uh that'd be fun though. I mean, fantastic, fantastic golf course. Never disappoints.

Matt:

Three to four snakes in the fairway. I've only seen one at Pyute. What? I've I've seen one snake on the car path at Paiute, but it was just a garter snake, it wasn't a rattlesnake. I've seen a lot of snakes at Boulder Creek.

Dan:

I've never seen a snake at Paiute, but I've seen four rattlesnakes at uh Bears Best.

Dr Mike:

I've seen more rattlesnakes in the Wisconsin bluffs in lacrosse than I have seen anywhere else. I've I've played a lot of golf in Arizona, Nevada. I've never seen a snake outside of I mountain bike once in a while up here in the bluffs, and I've seen two rattlesnakes in the bluffs in Wisconsin. Never seen, never seen one out by you guys.

Matt:

What's the uh anybody can answer this? What what's the the like most surprising animal you've seen on a golf course?

Dr Mike:

Like you're like, whoa. I saw links at Ventana Canyon in Tucson. Like one of those small, like cool-looking cat things, the pointy ears. Yeah, yeah, they got real pointy ears, they're kind of silver and black, diamond dyes.

Matt:

Yeah, it was it was like massive bobcat when I played Death Valley. Like a massive one, like or not.

Dan:

Yeah, probably probably alligators for me. Yeah, yeah.

Dr Mike:

Yeah, I there was a gator in Hilton Hut I saw that was huge.

Jeremy:

Yep, that's where I saw one.

Joe:

The one that will never get old is the bighorn sheep at Cascada. Yeah, because you're gonna see them every round, and it never gets old. Yeah, South Shore, too.

Dr Mike:

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, Matt, we saw those when we were there, yeah. Yeah, then they ran away. We were gonna take a great video, and then they ran away. There used to be donkeys that rolled down on the bear's best, too, when I was catting out there back in the day.

Matt:

Oh, yeah, because the red rocks are right, yeah, running around the corner there. They hang out there.

Joe:

Never saw a donkey at Prim Valley, but I did see their uh left behinds.

Matt:

Yeah, they always had a nice little pile on the roadway.

Joe:

There's always nuggets out there for you, you know what I mean? Road apples. Man, I missed that.

Matt:

Uh the deer abandoned is always awesome. Um, to see.

Joe:

Oh no, bald eagle sheep ranch. Oh bald eagle, yeah.

Matt:

Yeah, the bald eagle on the 17th century.

Dan:

Shit, remember we saw the elk and pays in Matt. Oh, that was in the neighborhood.

Joe:

Yeah, that was yeah, that was two bucks right on the right on the fucking T box. That's right. That was actually scary, honestly.

Jeremy:

That was cool.

Dr Mike:

So if you guys don't have bald eagles out by you, that's not a normal thing to see. I've no if I went down to the the Mississippi River, which is like three blocks away from me in May, I could see two dozen bald eagles standing on the corner of a road. It's insane, they're everywhere over here.

Dan:

Did you see the footage of uh old Tacoa with the guys waiting out because there was like it looked like a thousand bald eagles were just running around in that fairway?

Dr Mike:

Yeah, in the in the late fall when the ice is just forming on the river, in the early spring, when there's like holes in the ice, the bald eagles on the river will like fish in the holes, yeah, and they'll catch a fish, and then they'll just land on the ice and just tear the fish into pieces and eat it. And you can just sit there and watch it. Yeah, it's really cool. Really cool.

Matt:

There was metal two really big red tail hawks that lived on the seventh fairway at Royal Lynx. That every now and then you'd see them come off the telephone wires and just destroy a rabbit.

Dr Mike:

Yeah, those those birds are they're they're predators.

Matt:

Well, I it happened on the the ninth hole at snow at Paiute. I was uh walking over to the bunker, and there's the little lake there that you gotta hit around. And I just it sounded like a F-16 was screaming by, and I look at and it was a uh a hawk coming in to get a duck off the pond, and I'm like, it scared the shit out of me. I I'm like now I know why they call those the the falcons because I mean it was moving. I haven't seen I haven't seen a bear or a lion or like you know, mountain lion or anything like that. That would be uh interesting. We need to get up to Idaho, up up in the hills in Idaho to see that. Yeah. All right, speaking of uh traveling, um, we were gonna do something about golf trips, but I think uh probably should be a little bit more prepared to do that.

Joe:

Probably on Andy because it's yeah, I mean we it's very real, it's a very real topic.

Matt:

It's a it is and we bring up this topic because of the Four Hadley charity auction. Um, Mike, they had a record today. What what happened?

Dr Mike:

Uh so yeah, today we had our uh first day record, I guess I would say the first kind of the first day we run it. I think our prior record was 38,000, and we're currently at 45,000. So pretty awesome. And and we only have like a third of our courses have bids on them. So there's a lot of a lot of room to move, and it's there's some deals currently.

Jeremy:

Really great day.

Dr Mike:

Yeah, there's some, I mean, there's some incredible deals, zero bids, and uh a couple that a couple that already really popped off. Um, but there's a lot of lot of really good courses that yeah, if you're gonna talk about a golf trip, there's stay in plays that are you know, there's a Sylvie's Valley stay in play that I think is zero bids. That's out in Oregon.

Speaker 6:

Yeah.

Dr Mike:

Um, that's a place talking about animals. You can go there and play around a golf and have a goat as your caddy. Like they have trained. I don't know if they're trained or or what, or if you just walk it basically, but they have goats that you basically put a bag on their back and could be a fun hickory round, Joe.

Matt:

Yeah, do they have a handler or do you get to just I think you just I think they're you know, they basically just walk with you.

Dr Mike:

Um, and they're trained from the time they're I think they're called kids, right? Kids, yes, goats are kids, yeah. Uh but basically they raise them on on the ranch and then they eventually become caddies and they basically just walk with you and you park them when you get towards the green, they just sit there and eat grass and carry your bag for you. That's yeah, yeah. You probably read the green better than I would. You've seen me putt. Yeah, yeah, you're laughing, Matt. Have you got a new putter yet? Uh I did. Um you did? Well, it's an old putter that I just put back in the bag after I was shamed out of my older my other one.

Matt:

Yeah, that that you were shamed. That was bad. That was that putter looked like it fell off a truck on a highway and was there for a couple weeks.

Dr Mike:

Joe, I gotta show you. My dad gave me a bag of like these old persimmon woods and these super, super old putters. They're like wood shafted putters.

Joe:

I've been trying to collect I I'm I'm trying to build a hickory set. I would I would like to. I have a I have like two or three downstairs. Um, five hickories. I yeah, I know. I mean, well, will I ever play them? I don't know, but like, yeah, see, like I do. Oh, yeah, that's nice. Super cool. And that's just you know, the leather wrap grip. Part of the history of the game. I mean, that's that's we just need to find it pretty slick.

Dr Mike:

It's like a it's a literal wood shafted.

Jeremy:

Oh wow, yeah. The grip so thin it's like tape.

Dr Mike:

Yeah, yeah. It's pretty neat. There's a huge community for that shit. My great grandpa probably hit this like crazy. Awesome. That's a putter. It's so cool.

Matt:

Is there anything on it?

Dr Mike:

Uh, it says uh it's made by McGregor. It's a noco road, no go roadie, peerless putter 10 point X. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, pretty. Yeah, run it, Joe. Uh my dad just texted me. He said that's great, that's great granddad's putter. Oh, yeah, you need you need to keep it. Yeah, I know. I'm not selling that. No, that's that's that's gonna go on the wall.

Speaker 6:

That's on the wall, yeah.

Dr Mike:

Wow, it's pretty easy to evolution off.

Jeremy:

It's yeah, it's great grandfather's putter. That's sick. That is very cool.

Matt:

That's awesome that you still have it.

Dr Mike:

Yeah, yeah. My dad was cleaning out the basement a few weeks ago, and he's like, I got a bunch of old stuff, and I was like, Hey, I'll take it. It'll be some nice wall work, some nice stuff to put on the wall. So yeah, really, really cool. And a bunch of old persimmon woods, and I've got my my uh my grandpa, my dad's dad, uh, he had like the first set of um Big Bertha iron or Big Bertha woods, like when he was older. So he had them with um graphite shafts and stuff, but they were the first Big Bertha, like really, really nice at the time. I will never forget. I was like 12 years old, I was kind of a chunky kid, and my dad let me use these, and I was out with my buddies, and I took a huge hack. I was I was a baseball player and a hockey player, and I played golf just for fun. I hit six inches behind the ball into the ground, and I snapped this graphite shaft in half so bad that the club head went further than the ball, and I I was so nervous to go home and tell my dad I snapped grandpa's shaft in half. He was it was fine. Um, yeah, but I got it re reshafted and it's got like this like purple. Uh I don't even know who made the shaft, but it it looks completely like this doesn't go with this, but it's a good story. That's awesome. Those woods were sick.

Matt:

Has anybody borrowed a club and broken one before?

Jeremy:

No, I we were I was at Top Golf with a buddy, and I took my brand new title as three wood, and he hit it. First time it's ever been hit, he hit it and hit one right off the top of the club and put a dent in it.

Dan:

Oh fuck.

Jeremy:

Uh yeah, so that was the last time I brought the clubs to top golf. Yeah. Yeah, that was painful.

Matt:

You know, yeah, someone's blown up.

Joe:

Yeah, you're blown, somebody's blown up, but no, I I've never done that. I mean, that's absolutely crazy.

unknown:

Yeah.

Matt:

Yeah, I uh a buddy of mine likes to it it's one of the weirdest things that he does, but on the 18th hole, when he's done, he loves to pick up the ball out of the hole, throw it up in the air, and hit it with the like it's a baseball. It's it drives me crazy because it it goes, there's no telling where it's gonna go, but he does it all the time. And he did that. I had I let him borrow uh uh I had a Taylor-made Rossi, uh, the one with the hole in the back when it first came out. Yeah, and he did that and just the head just spun. Oh shit. He was like, uh sorry.

Dr Mike:

When you're trying to hit a ball out of the air, all you have to do is hit the shaft with the ball and it's gonna snap.

Speaker 6:

Yep.

Dr Mike:

Any any club, it's done.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, yeah.

Dr Mike:

Which is why it's wild that some of those guys can do it and just hit the hit the club at the square.

Joe:

I mean, oh yeah, like hole and line uh tricks, yeah.

Dr Mike:

He's killing eye coordination. It takes to do that is nuts, crazy.

Joe:

Hey, speaking of top golf, uh, did you see the Callaway man, the company man, the company divesting?

Speaker:

Divesting. Maybe this wasn't such a great idea. Yeah, maybe we'll try to get back as much as we can.

Joe:

Dude, that yeah, I mean, what is your thoughts on that? I mean, seriously, I think it's I think Top Golf will die. I mean, I saw Cyrus's video, go follow Cyrus PGA. I mean, yeah, I think he was spot on with that.

Matt:

Yeah, I I I think they uh, you know, get out while you can type thing. Uh we we fudged this, um, invested way too much in it. And uh yeah, and you know what's you know what's killing a lot of the top golf, and it's not just top golf. There, there's atomic golf, there's there's range shack, there's driving range, and there's I mean, there's there's so many different ones. I mean, they they saw top golf blowing up, and then it's like, oh, we can do this, we can do this, we can do it different, we can do it different. And so now you've got 15 different brands that are doing the range golf retainment thing. But yeah, Dan's right. The simulators, yeah, simgolf is just destroying the top golf 100%.

Dr Mike:

I think one and simulators are are cheaper, yeah.

Matt:

And well, the prices, I mean, yeah, you take a family of four to top golf and you get food four hundred dollars.

Joe:

I I I will say I think Callaway is gonna come out on top of this because they did do that, and I do think top golf brought a new crowd into the game. Like it's it's the reason I started playing golf again in 2017, 2018. I don't even know. I went to a birthday party and we were at top golf and I was hitting it, got addicted, then I went to go play. So I think I still, even though they lost a little bit on it, I think it was a smart move by Callaway because they're gonna associate the first time they started hitting golf balls with the brand Callaway, and I think it's gonna pay off in the long run. Um, it's not where you want to go hit balls all the time, of course. No, you want to go play golf, you want to get out there, but it brings them into the spectrum, the environment. And it it it kind of it's always gonna be one of the for a lot of people that started playing golf um during COVID or just before in the past few years, it's gonna top golf is gonna can I mean it's gonna be that that's where I started. That's why I hit that's where I hit my first golf ball. And they're gonna relate that to Callaway, and it's gonna be fantastic and smart move by them. They might have lost on this one, but I think they'll win in the long run. And uh yeah, I mean it's a great place for a party, it's not a great place to practice.

Dr Mike:

No, well, and I think that's that's a little bit of top golf's uh you know, it that that's the good and the bad of top golf is you know, their target audience really isn't regular golfers because as soon as you get the itch to play golf and you play on a course, top golf isn't fun anymore.

Joe:

Yeah, you're gone. You're not going to get it.

Dr Mike:

You know, their their target audience is is like Joe said, it's people that are going to have a party that don't know what it's actually like to play golf on a golf course because as soon as you do that, top golf isn't fun. So, like it's just it's for people that just want to go play uh Angry Birds on the top golf setup, um, who have never actually played golf or just aren't good and and just want to rip balls at top golf. But as soon as you actually get interested in golf, you don't want to go and hit balls at top golf, you want to go to the course. If you want to go to a range, you're just gonna go to the range at the course and then play on the course.

Matt:

Yeah, I wonder how much of that is Callaway realizing oh shit, we don't have a return customer because we've introduced them to golf and now they're out on the course. I'm not on the golf course, exactly. Yeah, they're buying maybe they're buying our clubs and our golf balls and our hats, but they're not coming back to top golf, so it's like the customer retention is just it's exactly that.

Joe:

You give them you give them the bug and they're not coming back because the bug is actually out there.

Matt:

Can you think of another business that's like that where you pretty wild?

Joe:

You're like introducing somebody in the game, and then you your brand is the game, and then they're like, Okay, see you later. We're gonna go actually play the game here.

Jeremy:

So Callaway really is growing the game. Yeah, I mean Callaway's the problem.

Joe:

I'm kidding. Topgolf is the gateway drug, the gateway. Yeah, Topgolf is weed, basically, at this point, or dime tap, whatever you started with. Dime tapo robofry, RoboTustin. Tussin, you know, free on out the AC.

Matt:

So with Callaway with Callaway exiting, I mean they still have don't do that shit.

Joe:

Don't do that shit. It's a joke, guys. I saw people do that.

Matt:

They still have a share in Top Golf. Um, but do you see these places going away? Atomic golf, topgolf, rain check. I mean, they there's a huge investment in those places.

Dr Mike:

And the technology is not cheap. No, so I mean, if they go under, they're not gonna be able to sell that. So I I think if they want to still stay in business and make money, they have to lower their prices. I mean, the the cost of a have of having a bay at Top Golf, like you said, Matt, it's a it's a $400 two-hour session. I mean, it's crazy. And you know, unless people are coming in with a big party, which I think then you get discounts. I think they have like packages and stuff, but if they want a long-term strat, they got to lower their prices. Because once once you buy the technology and stuff, it can't be that expensive to run a top golf. Once you actually buy the stuff and the technology and all that, you know, you're paying staff. But yeah, I mean, long term, I think they're you know, their their margins are probably going to be slimmer, but if they want to be you know viable long term, they probably have to accept that.

Dan:

Do you think they could survive if they fully like adapted to an actual regular driving range instead of this interactive shit?

Joe:

Well, I I don't know if you guys saw like um that's a good question. I think it was a couple years ago. There was a model where you go to your bay, you hit all 18 of your t-shots, and then the computer remembers it, and then you go to a chipping green, and it'll place all your spots where you hit, and you have to hit all those, and then you go to the putting green, so it's kind of like you're playing a golf course, yeah. And it you're hitting all your t-shots, then your approach shots or your chip shots, yeah.

Jeremy:

TGL.

Joe:

Yeah, it's basically TGL, but there was a model where that was it. So you move from this area and then you go to this area.

Matt:

That was where they that that was in China, wasn't it? Where they had the screen you hit into, then the screen lifted up, and then there was the that place looks fucking sick.

Joe:

Yeah, yeah, that place over top golf all day, but um no, I forget the name of it.

Matt:

How about Bryson's endeavor for his place?

Joe:

Oh, yeah, that one in Texas.

Matt:

That hasn't happened, has it?

Dan:

Yeah, I don't think anything.

Matt:

You don't remember that, Dan?

Dan:

Bryson's endeavor. Yeah, he's three years ago or something.

Matt:

Yeah, he's got a he's doing a top golf type place.

Joe:

I I I definitely think there's a way to improve it, and somebody's going to, and then topped up top golf is killed once it's improved.

Dan:

I think I vaguely remember that. He put like a didn't he put like a tweet or a post on Instagram about what his venture was doing?

Matt:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we talked about how terrible it was.

Dr Mike:

That's right. I yeah, I think if someone can incorporate like a simulator type setup, sort of what like what Joe's describing, like on Moss in like a range setup where there's like 50 or 100 bays. If someone can incorporate like a simulator thing where you're actually kind of playing the game, then yeah, top golf's done. Yeah. Um because then you've then you've got you know basically a simulator where you can put a hundred people in there and you know everyone's able to do it and stuff.

Joe:

I think they they educated their their customers on how much fun golf is, and top golf is not as fun as they thought at first, and they found out how much fun golf is away from top golf, and they screwed themselves.

Matt:

Yep. Payment failed with golf golf, right?

Joe:

I mean, that's that boils it down, right? I mean, that's that is that's it.

Matt:

Payment failed with a comment too much drinking surrounding top golf, grab some buddies, box of balls, go hang out, bullshit at the driving range. Uh they said, uh got pain said, How about the golf couples that had their first date at Top Golf? Yeah. Oh, dude, it's so funny. There's so many that I mean they've gotten a lot of press, they've gotten a lot of views, but it's just it's a different yeah, it's golf ortainment. It's you know, it's not it's not golf.

Joe:

Not golf. It's it's Zigfried of Roy, Zigfried and Roy of golf, top golf.

Matt:

Oh yeah, 51 minutes.

Dan:

Zigfried and then top golf. That's hilarious. Top golf was gay. All right, I didn't mean it like that.

Joe:

That's funny though.

Dan:

I didn't mean it like that. I know what you meant. I know what you meant. A lot of glitz and glamour.

Speaker:

Um we haven't had a Siegfried and Roy reference in a long time.

Joe:

It's a great podcast on Apple, too. Oh go follow our show, subscribe, review, and then go check out the Zigfried and Roy podcast.

Matt:

Yeah, a lot of animal cruelty going on in that podcast. Uh Jeremy, you had yourself a special day uh this past week. Uh you got to play the country club for the very first time.

Jeremy:

Yeah, I did.

Matt:

Tell us what was your thoughts on LVCC.

Jeremy:

I would say if there was a club in town to join, I would probably not including Southern Highlands, but it would be LBCC for sure. The vibe, the vibe is hard to beat there. It's so chill. Course is amazing. I love the tree-lined holes.

Matt:

That's no good.

Jeremy:

It just doesn't feel like I mean, just like National, you don't really feel like you're in Vegas. Except for the skyscrapers, except for the the ditch and yeah, the sky, the sky great, the skyscraper holes are so cool, man. Hitting at Westgate is just incredible.

Matt:

Did you have a favorite hole?

Jeremy:

Um, let's see, which probably 18. That's I think it's the only holy birdied. I think I skipped it. I dude, I I like thinned my t shot on 17 and skipped it across the pond on into sick.

Joe:

I love 17 so much, too.

Jeremy:

Yeah, it's what's your 17's amazing.

Joe:

Did you read all the plaques and everything and all the history?

Jeremy:

Um, a few of them. Yeah, yeah. I should I next time I go, if I mean that'll happen, but I need to pay more attention to that stuff.

Joe:

But yeah, there's a lot of history out there. What the fuck?

Dr Mike:

I was too worried not I was too worried about losing to our match. That's private, right? Yeah, no, I've played Las Vegas Golf Club, I think. That's public. No, no, I think I played that a long time ago, but I think didn't Tiger Woods win a tournament there?

Joe:

No, no, are you sure?

Dr Mike:

Uh national.

Joe:

I mean, maybe as a junior Arnold Palmer. I Arnold Palmer won back there, and that's where the Las Vegas invitational, like I forget, but maybe maybe that's where the old old guys used to play. Las Vegas National.

Dan:

Yeah, national is where Tiger won with National.

Dr Mike:

That's is is Las Vegas National that's public. Yeah, yeah, that's that's where I played. That's where I played. Yeah, there's a Las Vegas National, there's a Las Vegas golf club, and there's a Las Vegas Country Club. Country club, yeah. Okay, yeah, you gotta keep those straight. So I I have no idea how much a membership costs in like Vegas. Like, what would it cost to join Las Vegas Country Club? Uh five, five or six figures.

Joe:

I think it's more than five. We can I can call the slice and ask them.

Jeremy:

Yeah, I think it's low fives.

Joe:

I I want to say it depends on the page and all that, you know. But yeah, 25.

Jeremy:

Oh, maybe more than 25k, but then that'd be initiation and then does another 750 to a thousand a month, I'm guessing.

Dr Mike:

Yeah, but I mean, if you're gonna be there long term, yeah. I mean, those dues aren't terrible. The initiation's a banger, but you know, that's how they keep people there or not. That's how they make money turnover.

Matt:

Did the range bother you at all, Jeremy?

Jeremy:

No, only because I knew it was an issue, yeah.

Matt:

So it's like, yeah, I couldn't hit driver, but I was the only downside to that place.

Jeremy:

That's the only downside because their practice facility is awesome.

Matt:

So good.

Jeremy:

Better or worse than the range at Ballet High.

Dr Mike:

Oh, it's better than Bally High.

Speaker 6:

Okay, that's good. Yeah, that's that's like a simulator.

Joe:

It's an elongated ballet high. Okay, yeah. About I don't know how far is it?

Jeremy:

Two 400 240. 220, 220. Oh, so kind of like Wolf Creek.

Joe:

Yeah, no, yeah. You can hit like you can like driver high, but you can hit drivers because there's nets that go. I don't think you can hit driver at Wolf Creek. You can't, no, yeah, yeah.

Matt:

But the the range balls are very limited flight balls, too. So I mean you can smash and it just doesn't go anywhere.

Joe:

No, but it's fucking it's fucking pure. It is a very pure course, though.

Matt:

Yeah, it's it's outstanding.

Joe:

Reflection bay, yeah. That's bad too. Leave your clubs black. Yeah, I haven't played Reflection Bay.

Speaker:

You've never played Reflection Bay, like many courses out here that you haven't played.

Dr Mike:

There's a lot of them. I I'm trying to think of how many courses in Vegas I've played. Probably I've probably played a dozen. Um, but there's a lot of them.

Matt:

So just to go to the post that's linked on our IG of our rankings and just mark off the ones that you haven't played, and then we'll start knocking them off next time you're out here.

Jeremy:

Hey, he has a he has a link to the app that he could potentially. I think I've filled out a couple of those, Jeremy. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah.

Matt:

Yeah, we have we have an app that we're working on to where we're not live with that yet, though, right? No, yeah, where everybody that's listening will be able to uh go to the link and rate your Vegas courses, and uh it will only tabulate based on the courses you have played. So if you've only played three, you can rank those three courses. If you played 50, you can rank 50. And uh it's gonna be our viewers' rankings that when we do our rankings episode will also share that.

Jeremy:

Yep, yeah, and Mike has graciously tested it.

Dr Mike:

That's gonna be really, really cool. I don't know if you guys realize that's gonna people love giving their opinions on that kind of stuff. Absolutely.

Matt:

Everybody loves it, loves they love shitting on our opinions.

Dr Mike:

Well, and they love giving theirs. Uh that's gonna be really neat.

Jeremy:

Yeah, I think we're gonna we'll put a link to the like when we do our next one, we'll put a link to that in the in the voting forum and maybe have like a live ticker of the what our scores are or what everyone else is kind of averaging out. It'd be interesting.

Dr Mike:

There's a lot of you should use that would be an interesting addition to uh making sure that when people review a course they include their score. Oh because if they shoot 110, that might be that's for sure. Yeah, that is true. That oh, that's if someone shoots a 71 and also says the course wasn't fun, then you know it's they had a good day and still didn't enjoy it. That says something, yeah. Interesting, yeah.

Matt:

Flash Bay is beautiful and fun, but they fucked up by the range, but that wasn't on them. Yeah, yeah, you can only you can only play the cards you're dealt. They were dealt a bad seed bird. Absolutely. All right, uh, I said this earlier at the beginning of the show. Uh, but if you're watching this, it means you're a fan of the show, and we thank you for that. Uh the biggest way right now that you can help us is going to the link in the show notes for the Apple podcast. Click on that, make sure you hit that plus sign, follow the show that lets Apple know that hey, we're doing things that are making you want to watch. That helps us get more eyes on the show and uh helps us grow. We really appreciate it. Our YouTube channel is doing really well right now. Very happy with that. We're over 700 subscribers now. We're getting there. It's taking it's slow growth, but uh, you know, we're we're doing it the right way. Um, your comments, your likes, your shares, your follows, all that stuff is greatly, greatly appreciated. We love everybody for doing that for us. Thank you so much for tuning in each week. Um, you know, we're gonna we're gonna mess around with this uh after the show stuff and see how it goes. So uh, you know, pay attention on our social media feeds because we'll let everybody know how they'll be able to listen to the after show. It's either gonna be in the audio format only, or we're gonna create a separate podcast that you can uh download separately if if you subscribe to CD Premium. CDP Premium.

Dr Mike:

So Matt, have you thought about like an after show cocktail? Hour like they used to do on Zoom during COVID, where people could like do like QA's where they could bust bust your chops and stuff.

Matt:

Joe does that every episode live now.

Dr Mike:

So no, I mean like people watching could join. They could do like you know, you could like a group Zoom, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a like a zoom happy hour.

Joe:

You're on mute, Joe. Can't hear you. I said, I don't think you understand what the homie Mike is saying. Okay, listen.

Matt:

I understand what he's saying now.

Dr Mike:

There you go. Got it. But like that's how that's how Bob does sports got fat perez. Uh-huh. They had like a like a 150 person happy hour where like you had like a queue of people that wanted to ask questions and they could ask questions to you guys and stuff. I think that would be awesome.

Matt:

Yeah, we may have to look into that. We're gonna have to get some more people. More people are gonna have to start joining. Thanks, coach, for recognizing that we're coming on earlier, doing that for the East Coaster.

Joe:

Shout out, coach. Shout out, Coach Porch.

Matt:

Really appreciate that. Um, and uh what what is it that Paint Pell says? Uh, likes don't cost a thing. So if you're watching the show right now, just hit that like button for us. Uh the likes help, the comments definitely help. Uh hey, Mike, do me a favor, stand up real quick, show everybody the shirt you got on.

Dr Mike:

Yeah, that's this is the boiler here.

Matt:

The exclusive chasing daylight podcast. There's only gosh, I think 17 of those t-shirts right now. Yeah, nothing on the back, just on the front. Uh, we're gonna give that I have that in gray and black, uh, only an extra large. So if uh we're gonna draw a name here, if you win and uh you you're not gonna want it.

Dan:

Changing light bulbs.

Matt:

Oh, it's it's poppy.

Dan:

It's quintine.

Joe:

Poppy's in the house.

Jeremy:

Quintero.

Joe:

We're wrangling, we're wrangling.

Jeremy:

Yeah, wrangling.

Dr Mike:

The family man is doing the dad things. Good for you, Joe.

Speaker:

Ow!

Joe:

She's so happy. Guys, can you go outside and get that in five minutes, please? We're gonna meet.

Speaker:

Yeah, she's just driving him crazy.

Matt:

I love it because I went through all that 15 years ago. That's so funny.

Dan:

That's funny.

Matt:

Uh yeah, that is that is Katie's uh mini me right there. 100%. So all right, so we're gonna be we're gonna be giving away the t-shirt. If you want it, awesome. Take it, I'll ship it to you. If you don't want it, let me know, and we'll figure something else out. Uh, let me bring this up.

Joe:

Also, um yeah, I Matt, you gave me a bunch of really dope polos, and we're gonna do it on a show, and then we're gonna give away one of the old Sun logo shirts. I'm gonna do that in a followers giveaway at some point.

Matt:

I loved that logo, which doesn't exist anymore.

Joe:

Uh, we're gonna do that at one of these days because I pulled out a bunch of stuff that you had that is also a breakfast ball shirt. We're gonna give those away in followers one of the shows, one of these days, but when that whenever that happens.

Speaker:

All right. See who this is.

Dan:

Slow rolling, slow rolling, slow rolling.

Speaker 6:

Go follow that dude.

Dan:

Are you here? You gotta be present. Come on, Hesher. He was just here.

Matt:

Oh, yeah, he's he was there a minute ago, a couple minutes ago. There is a little lag, so we'll give him we'll give him a minute. We'll give him a minute.

Joe:

Guys, if you're on Instagram, go follow Hesher Hack. He's guy's fantastic. He's Daily Hunt for Hole in one. He was on day like 360. Yeah, there's more hack it is in there are episodes of Chase Day Lab Podcast.

Dr Mike:

I tell you what, I I messaged him the other day. I I was looking, I went way back when he started, and I I just looked at a really old video and I compared it to like the swing he took yesterday. His swing's gotten way better. Way way better.

Matt:

Oh, and I I said a while ago, I go, dude, your short game is gonna get so good doing this.

Dr Mike:

He's really good at putting too. Yeah, he is. Yeah, well, I mean makes most of those putting so I'm kind of a little upset with him about that, but uh puts it in the hole, Matt. Come on now.

Matt:

All right, Hasher going once.

Dr Mike:

Is he here?

Matt:

Going twice? No, he's not.

Joe:

He he has a bunch of stuff. I've already sent him free stuff. That's the home is true.

Dr Mike:

Didn't he win? Uh, didn't he win like one of your huge giveaways?

Joe:

Didn't he win the driver? Yeah, he did win the driver. That's right. Yeah, he won the driver. He did a um a reel on his on a short part four with the driver. Yeah, that would be got the one on there. Guys, if you're on Instagram, please go follow the homie Hesher Hack. He's the homie.

Matt:

Oh, hint and green's gonna win this time.

Dan:

We all get a shirt. Amazing.

Joe:

That's funny.

Speaker:

And this will be Joe now. Oh there we go.

Joe:

T and D, where yeah, T and T. I don't know. I haven't seen her comment in a while.

Speaker:

Oh man.

Joe:

I haven't seen her comment in a while.

Speaker:

Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

Dr Mike:

I think we gotta rerun it. Is is the rule you gotta be present?

Matt:

Yeah, gotta be present.

Speaker:

Here we go. We're knocking them off one by one. Oh, so funny. Yeah, but hey, there we go. Kevin. I know Kevin, we gotta be on. Right? Kevin, you still have a big one. Kevin needs a big box.

Matt:

He needs a big he's gonna get a big box. I know there's a little delay, so we'll see. Uh Adrian, uh right now holy moly. Uh just it the VGN Instagram account, just I can I can help you out with that if if uh you're worried about getting a handicapped. That's the gen service comes with the VGN membership. So all right, Kevin's not here. Kevin's not here. Man, look at that down to seven seven entries. All you gotta do is leave comments. Oh my gosh. We need we need some like circus music going on right now.

Joe:

We need that whatnot thing where it doesn't allow you to get in if you're not live.

Matt:

When I win, Joe runs it on whatnot money and goes towards a benefit auction.

Joe:

Ooh, hey, shut up, payment failed. There we go. There we go. Hey, Davy's in the house. Shout out, Davey. There we go. I know got paints here. Got paints here.

Matt:

All right. So we'll stop that. It's hard to give away free stuff.

Speaker:

Man, man.

Matt:

Um, so uh before we wrap this up, I do I do want to say we uh Joe, Jeremy, Dan, and I had a little conversation about uh where the podcast is going, the direction it's going, and what we're doing. And uh Joe made it really clear, hey, we talk way too much Vegas golf. But I just want to say, if you tune into the show, you are gonna hear about Vegas golf. Because one, we're in Vegas and this is where we golf. So we're gonna be talking about it, and you're gonna hear about the VGN because we you know run the league and it's a league that we're part of, and it's a way for us to engage with the community. Um, so don't be discouraged when you hear that stuff. We are gonna talk about other things, and we're gonna try to limit it to just important stuff. So, uh, like Jeremy playing LVCC was pretty freaking important because it's crossed a big one off his list. Um, the VGN season is open for registration. You can find that out going to the website, link in the show notes, all that good stuff. Please don't be discouraged about the Vegas talk. We love Vegas, we live here, it's our city, it's our home. That's your roots, it's our roots. Uh, you know, when we travel too far. Yeah, when we travel and we go places, we talk about it, like with Landman, when we go to band and when we went to uh Pace and cashed in our beautiful uh golf courses for Hadley Auction. Uh, we talked about that. So, you know, when we get out there, we'll talk about other things. But uh please don't be discouraged by the the Golf Vegas talk. It's our life, it's our love, and uh we want to share those stories with you. That being said, Joe, you want to knock it out and then uh we'll figure a way to get this recording again for some uh after after hour stuff?

Joe:

Yeah, as always, thank you guys so much for tuning into the Chasing Daylight Podcast. We're here every single Tuesday. Um, I thank all the homies for being here, and uh, I can't believe I can't believe how long we've done this. And uh we're gonna keep going with or without you, but we're so happy that you're here with us. Uh we are true believers and lovers of this game that's called golf. And uh yeah, if you guys ever have any needs, questions about golf, you can catch us here Tuesday nights and you can ask it in the chat. We'll do our best to answer any questions you may have. Um and you know, go out there and play. Don't just fucking buy golf shit, go play fucking golf. All right, I promise you, it will deliver for you. Uh, it's given me so many things, it's given me all these great gentlemen that I know now because of golf. And uh, it's fantastic. And uh don't waste your don't waste your life inside and uh go hit those greens and check out Chase GLAP podcast every single Tuesday night. Bookmark all upcoming shows too, and you'll catch me when you catch me. But I'm always gonna be right here on Tuesday night. So uh hopefully we see you on the next show.

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