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Welcome to our first-ever "post-show" podcast. Currently, we're calling this the "After-Show," but who knows if that sticks around.

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The best golf stories usually happen between tee times. We start with an NFL‑boosted charity auction that lights up the leaderboard, then dive headfirst into the places and moments that make golf trips unforgettable: Dismal River’s off‑the‑grid calm, Gamble Sands’ magnetic remoteness, and that magic Sandhills light that turns a golden hour into two. Along the way, we break down why Nicklaus’ White and Doak’s Red at Dismal feel so different yet complementary, and why template holes—Redan, Biarritz, Road—still thrill when a muni squeezes them onto small, sloped greens.

If you’ve ever debated stay‑and‑play convenience versus a zigzag road mission, you’ll feel seen. We weigh the comfort of Bandon‑style hubs against the chaos of dirt roads, sketchy motels, and last‑minute reroutes that become core memories. Expect practical tips too: shoes that actually work for wet mornings, bug defenses that survive Midwest summers, simple filming rigs that stake into turf, and the low‑tech medical kit that can save a walking day. We even confess our gear gripes, like “wireless” chargers that still need wires, and share the easy content wins that help you remember the putt your buddy spite‑threw into a lake.

The stories get real: a lip‑out “ace” that stopped on the rim during a tournament, generational hole‑in‑ones on the same green, and post‑ace rituals from burger dogs to pub takeovers funded by the “dollar‑per‑yard” rule. We map compact, high‑yield routes in Wisconsin—Sand Valley, SentryWorld, Lawsonia, Erin Hills, Geneva National—and sketch a cross‑border dream from Banff’s cliffhanger par‑3s to Gamble Sands’ big‑sky drama. Hidden gems pop up too, including a Jerry Pate favorite in Alabama and thoughtful Carolinas picks that reward a short drive off property.

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NFL Eyes On A Golf Auction

SPEAKER_07

Published Matt?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Everything.

SPEAKER_07

Oh he'll probably edit it though.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I can edit it if you want me to take something out. So we're recording right now.

SPEAKER_07

So okay. No, so Dan uh I won't say a lot of names, but this was public. Dan Orlovsky. He's like a unbelievable guy. Like now he's uh he's an A-list analyst on ESPN, right?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Um, you know, he could charge me thousands of dollars to promote something every single year. The guy I I he like invites me to take him, and he has for years now. So I do, you know, for big things, I don't pepper him all the time, but like today, you know, auction opening, I tagged him, immediately reposted it to his story, and now there are multiple NFL quarterbacks. I'm not gonna say who, but I can see who in our auction bidding against each other and bidding things up against each other. That is awesome. Yeah, they're not current NFL, they're like retired, but yeah, there are multiple NFL quarterbacks in our auction who are bidding against each other on like multiple items. It's really funny. That's a uh so rodeo dunes is um so Dismal River is again for the second year in a row, by far the highest number right now. The two days of unlimited golf at uh Dismal River is 4100 bucks. Rodeo Dunes is uh threesome plus dinner, and then there's some bonus golf involved, I guess. That's 2100.

SPEAKER_01

700 a person is not bad.

SPEAKER_06

There's so many awesome looking courses, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

There's yeah, it's a fucking what's one you you we should be watching.

SPEAKER_07

Um well, I mean, you guys are so where where were you saying you're gonna go again this year? You're gonna go back up to Nebraska. Is it we're going to Nebraska? I mean, it's hard not to tell you to go to Dismal. Um Dismal is Dismal is unbelievable. It's my favorite place on earth. It's it's so good.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, that's a bold statement.

SPEAKER_07

And I've I mean I haven't played, I haven't played Bandon, um, but I've played a lot of golf, uh, a lot of places, and it did Dismal's just you're completely off the grid. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the only way I can say it. It sounds cliche, but uh the two courses there are are are different, but they like perfectly contrast each other. Um it's just it's it's cool, and I I I put a lot of value on feeling like you're getting away when you play golf, and there's no course I felt more away from everything else than Dismal River. I mean, you fly in a north. Uh so Doke built uh the red course and Nicholas built the white course.

SPEAKER_01

Is it typical Nicholas?

SPEAKER_07

Um yeah, I I would say so. Uh and I'm not a huge Nicholas fan, but for whatever reason, I just uh the white course there is it's awesome. It's it's really cool. Um yeah, it's just it's the landscape out there, though. I feel like anyone could have well, not anyone, but any good architect could have made a a world-class course there. It's just it's really, really neat. Yeah, and then the the red course on um at Dismal is it's different. It's you know, there's like no tea boxes, you kind of tee it up where you want, and there's teeing areas and it's there's blind shot. It's just a it's a different course, it's really fun. There's a lot of elevation, and so Dan, what can you either?

SPEAKER_03

Um right now, which I'm trying to find the ones where there's they show the ones that I've liked already. I think I have to log in, actually. That's probably why. Um, but uh Sequoia National. Oh, how good does that look, dude? In like the fall, yeah, with the colors changing and oh dude, yeah.

Bucket List Courses And Sequoia National

SPEAKER_07

There's a couple videos I have on my phone of Sequoia National. I think I showed you Matt when we were out in Vegas together, or maybe I showed uh um uh uh I blanking on his name. His last name's Jackson. He does the tattoos, Steven Steven. I think I showed him a couple videos of uh Sequoia National they sent me, and it literally looks like those mountains turn on fire with those colors. It looks so cool.

SPEAKER_03

So um, yeah, that one, and I know that course is like an hour, hour and a half from Old Tacoa, which is another course that I've wanted to play. Stowe golf club.

SPEAKER_07

Um Stowe Golf Club, yeah, in Vermont. Where's Sequoia Nationals? Where again?

SPEAKER_03

I think it's in North Carolina.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. That's far away. Never mind. Yeah, for some reason I thought it was up in Vermont.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but yeah, I'm looking at I got that one liked. Oh, I'm gonna see what else I got in here. I got like quite a few of them.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, old Tacoa's there.

SPEAKER_01

Um have you guys thought about listing it by states instead of just west or east of the Mississippi?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I don't know if there's enough um categories. I don't know if you could do it. I don't I don't think there's enough categories to do that. You can search by state, you could just search like Nevada. Yeah, okay, yeah, because every every course listed has the state that it's that it's in. Um and you can search something like that. There's a decent number in uh North Carolina though. We've got Tobacco Road, we've got um uh what's the other one?

SPEAKER_03

Um Royal New Kent.

SPEAKER_07

Uh Royal New Kent's Virginia. Um the other one, Todd Hill, right? Oh, Todd, that's the one I was trying to think of. Yeah, thanks, Dan. Yeah, Todd Hill looks really cool. That's another strands.

SPEAKER_03

Um yeah, I've got uh I've got Fox Hollow in Minnesota. I've got that one on here in my radar, uh, Caledonia True Blue, um, Lasonia links, both courses there. Yep, um Royal New Kent, uh Weekah, and Gamble Sands for sure. The gamble stands one. Yeah, yeah, that's at that's at 400 right now.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, the uh marketing director for Gamble Sands also does marketing at um Tobacco Road, which is wild because they're all the way across the country. But uh he's a really, really top-notch like golf course marketer. He used to work at Rams Hill. His name's Darren Bunch, he's an awesome dude. He works a lot with Brian Orr, they do a lot of uh drone stuff together.

SPEAKER_01

Gamble's on like my number that's that's my number one want to go to.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, it looks the story behind gamble is really neat too. Apparently, they the original build of the course there was too close to the uh river, and like half of the course fell into the river, and they had to rebuild the course.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I did not know that. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I I think they had like a real high year where the river was real high and everything fell in. Um, and so did a good portion of the course, and that was that was a long time ago, but you know, now they've got a ton of stuff on property, and it was funny. I posted uh I posted gamble a while ago. I I do it a lot, but um someone was like, Oh, gamble's annoying, it's terrible because you have to drive, like, and that's like the beauty of it because it's off the grid, and it's crazy that some people you know they don't like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they want to fly in to the airport and take a cab and be there in 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, like golf is moving away from that though.

SPEAKER_01

That's part of the event, that's what makes the golf trip so much fun. It's what 100%. I mean, in our Nebraska trip, we found out a lot about Jeremy. Yes, they did that we did not know about, and it was it was car talk, it was car talk.

SPEAKER_07

What does Jeremy use a CPAP at night or something? No, no CPAP. Oh, yeah, no, that's the best part. I mean, it's again cliche to say, but a lot of it's the journey of like getting to the course. It's it's a trip, that's why it's called a golf trip, not just a round, it's just it's a ton of fun with your friends. You're going there, you're driving there, you're you're flying there, you've got you know, stories about gas stations you stopped at, or you know, freaky Airbnbs you stayed at, or it's just it's it's all part of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's why it's so fun.

SPEAKER_06

That it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01

No doesn't like bugs. Oh no, is like running scared, like whoever the the gnats got to him in the gats, uh mosquitoes.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, dude, oh yeah, dude. The Midwest has some large mosquitoes. Oh, I remember him and the bees.

SPEAKER_01

I remember anything that buzzes by him, he loses his shit. It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, that's you guys have bugs out there though, don't you? Is it too dry?

SPEAKER_06

Not uh we don't have a lot of mosquitoes, really.

SPEAKER_07

Midwest is real humid, so like during the summer, we get it's thick. The mosquitoes are thick, the gnats are thick. Um, by the river where I'm at, it's it's bad.

SPEAKER_01

It's real bad. He had to get Benadryl at the airport because his legs was so swollen. We thought we seriously have to go to the hospital.

SPEAKER_07

That's bad. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01

The whole trip.

Ireland, Scotland, And Trip Timing

SPEAKER_03

Joe getting absolutely annihilated and swollen.

SPEAKER_07

Did he use bug spray of air? Didn't he use bug spray? He did the strong stuff with deet and everything. Yeah, 60 deed or 80 deep. Yeah, it didn't help.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't even use bug spray.

SPEAKER_07

So in May, we will be bringing DEET for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah, you need to. Yeah, the the spring and the fall are bad, real bad. That's funny. Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the only place that they annoyed me at was the that Bermuda Dunes or what was it? Dakota Dunes.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, Dakota Dunes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because it was on the river and and it was thick and lush there, it wasn't like spread out. It was very marshy.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so that's that's how the Midwest is. If you're by a land of or a body of water, it's it's game over. That's where the mosquitoes have their like breeding nests or whatever the hell they call them. Um and midges midges in Michigan.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, dude, midges are brutal. Oh, yeah. What are what are midges? Are they they don't um no?

SPEAKER_03

They're like these little pesky asses, you know. He's played in the invitation, they're like mosquitoes, but they don't like suck your blood. They're like weird, like these little weird little black boxes.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, they they crawl on your skin, they're actually like parasitic, and they they make these little burrows in your skin, and they infect animals, they can actually chew through animal skin for people. They can't, so they they they're just terribly itchy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we recovered thousands of them.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, thank you for four holes.

SPEAKER_03

The first four holes at Bay Harbor.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, geez, geez. Oh, you guys play Bay Harbor.

SPEAKER_03

That's yeah.

SPEAKER_07

There's a Boin, there's a Boeing package in the auction that does not include Bay Harbor, but everything else. I've heard the Arthur Hills course at uh Bay Harbor is real good.

SPEAKER_03

The Arthur Hills course was my favorite. I liked it better than I like Bay Harbor.

SPEAKER_07

Really? That's more in the woods, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the Arthur Hills course was fucking sick.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I loved it. Actually, that my home country club in lacrosse here is Arthur Hills design.

SPEAKER_06

What's the Donald Ross course up there? Isn't there one in Boeing? Or is it more north? There's a Donald Ross at French Lick, but that's not where you're thinking. There is there is a I swear there's a Donald Ross in Michigan. It might be north. Where's treetops at? Is it more north?

SPEAKER_03

Treetops is kind of north. It's a little east, I think, of Boeing, southeast of Boeing, I think. Um but yeah, Treetops is nice, but I don't know if there's a there's one at Tree Tops.

SPEAKER_05

I forget.

SPEAKER_07

Where's Joe? Oh no, there's a there's a Donald Ross Memorial course at Boyne Golf.

SPEAKER_06

That's right, that's what it was. There you go.

SPEAKER_03

I might have played it and just forgot.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I have not yet created all the golf course.

SPEAKER_03

Early uh season, opening opening in May. Matt wasn't Oconey or uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, that's Reese Jones.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, Reese Jones, that's right.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So apparently it's a Donald Ross replica course. Uh oh, it's not an actual so it's well, no, no, so it's bear's best of Michigan. Exactly. Yeah, it says the Donald Ross Memorial is in essence a greatest hits compilation, selecting from some of the designer's best known holes from the most renowned courses in his portfolio to create an unforgettable golf course. So I think someone just what do you think about those types of courses? I haven't played I haven't played a lot of replica courses. I played there's actually one about an hour east of me, um, called Northern Bay, and it's a replica course of a lot of um the uh British open holes.

SPEAKER_01

Royal links, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Like Royal Links. I I actually played Royal Links before they shut it down. So much. I think it's fun. I mean, yeah, it it seems ticky-tacky to to say, like, oh, it wasn't perfectly replicated. It's it's an idea, it's a general idea, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Like Links, a replica links course, that's okay because it's the same style of golf throughout. What I can't stand about what bears best was is you had a scatter brain of different hole profiles that didn't coincide with each other.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, the course doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_01

No, it doesn't make sense at all.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, remaking Nicholas's best holes is like eh. But yeah, I mean if you're remaking the best links holes on the British Open, it seems it would seem to flow better.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um, yeah. We were saying that we want to see uh uh like a template course where there's a template hole on each hole is a template hole. Yeah, you got the the B Ritz and you got the Rod Rodan and that would be uh that would be cool. Well you kind of get that at old Mac a little bit.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, a little bit. Charleston Muni was crazy.

SPEAKER_07

There's some really cool there's some really cool things on Instagram about Charleston Muni.

Stay‑And‑Play Vs Road Warrior Trips

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Charleston Muni was was a lot of fun, and um that was crazy to play some of those template holes. Like there was a there was some that were just like holy shit, that's very exaggerated. Because the greens there at Muni aren't very big. Um, so to have a Redan or anything like that with a huge slope on a small green, it was tough. It was tough. And um, but it was it's fun because you don't really see a whole lot of golf like that. You see most of that stuff back east. Yeah, everybody's got their little versions and variations of it, but a true template hole, like a Seth Rayner template, like it was it was crazy, it was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_07

Have you guys gone overseas at all? Have you guys gone to Ireland or no? Not for God. That it looks so enticing, doesn't it? Doesn't it like to go play some courses that are hundreds of years old? How enticing is that? It just looks so cool.

SPEAKER_01

I want to go on that 27 trip with you guys so bad, but Emma's gonna be graduating college that and Brooklyn's gonna be graduating high school, like when you guys are planning on going. It's like I can't just bail. Yeah, that's tough.

SPEAKER_03

For the thing about it though, Matty, is Ireland and Scotland aren't going anywhere. Exactly.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, those they've been there for hundreds of years, they'll they'll still be there. It can always go back, brother.

SPEAKER_01

And it can always throw the van on a ferry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Showers, Lodging, And The Journey Payoff

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I had a I had a whole itinerary for an Ireland trip, like essentially booked right after I graduated residency, and it was 2020. Oh COVID just shit all over. Oh, that's terrible. Yep. Yeah, I had this like touring company that wanted to take me out there and do this big thing, and I was basically booked, and then COVID happened, and it just shut everything down.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I would like to go to Cabo just to because there's some cool courses down there, yeah, and Danzante Bay looks cool, but other than that, I've got no desire to go to anywhere down in Mexico area. Um, like the seems like a lot of work for those courses, yeah, yeah. Because it's one course here, one course there, you know, like it's it's nowhere near Maya Coba is awesome.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that's that's that was a fun one because it's I mean, it's it's you you can walk outside your little cabin hotel and you're on the first T. It's like right around the whole resort. You're you never really leave the property, and you get ocean views, and then you get the cave, and then you get the you know, some of the kind of boring holes, but I like that internationally.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely want to go up to Canada to the Banff area, yeah. Silver tip and Banff National.

SPEAKER_07

You guys follow uh the lefty, um Matt the Lefty Mac Bocher, Mac Bocher. We were talking about animals before. He sees bears like every time he plays golf. But those courses that that's real big mountain golf, like that. Wasn't there one on the auction? Uh yeah, yeah, Great Wolf. Great Wolf. Yeah, that one looks incredible. Yep, sir. They've got uh they've got a famous part three called Cliffhanger that is I think it's yeah, from the tips, it's like 210 and it's like 195 yards of carry, and it's just like this island green, which is it's a pseudo-island, but it's just yeah, it's basically an island green that is 200 yards of cliff down. It looks so freaking cool. Yeah, and you and you're playing at 6,000 feet of elevation.

SPEAKER_01

So when I go to Canada Boys, eh? Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_07

There in Banff, there's seven courses that are world-class mountain golf courses.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, so we'll fly into Calgary, hit up a couple courses in Banff, then drive down into Spokane, and then head over to Gamble.

SPEAKER_07

You can do that. He's already got the yeah, he's already got the itinerary down.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_07

I think you're probably not gonna be able to see it very well.

SPEAKER_01

If you get close enough, it will. I don't know, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's it right there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. That was insane. Yeah, that's the green.

SPEAKER_06

That's like Wolf Creek in the pine trees. Yeah, wow. That's yep.

SPEAKER_08

Pretty beautiful.

SPEAKER_02

What's up? It's a wild night around these parts, guys.

SPEAKER_07

It's a wild night around these parts. Dan, we're really bummed that we're missing all that, aren't we? I think we need a live cam.

SPEAKER_06

That's why we call him Uncle Dan in my house.

SPEAKER_07

Uh, everyone calls me Uncle Mike at work, just in case. I got a couple of I got a couple of work buddies that have a bunch of little kids, and they all call me Uncle Mike. It's fun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't miss it at all.

SPEAKER_07

Matt, are you on Teen Estra yet or no?

SPEAKER_01

No, I got uh my my youngest is a junior, she's halfway through her junior year, so we got this time. What do you want to do? Uh she wants to go into marketing. Uh, she wants she really wants to go to Penn. She wants to go to the the Penn's grade school marketing school there. Um, but her she said this two years ago and it is held up. Her goal is to get accepted to all the Ivy League schools and turn them down.

SPEAKER_07

Jeez. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

Wow.

SPEAKER_07

She's a little pretentious, but I hope that's gonna make her feel really good because applying to Ivy League schools isn't cheap.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, uh she's she's smart as a whip, she's number two in her class. The number one class is her one of her closest friends.

SPEAKER_07

Your other daughter's out in New York, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she's yeah, she's going to school out there. She's living in Harlem, which we're going next month to go visit. So nice, going back to New York, nice and cold. Oh, yeah. My wife's like, Don't you think it'd be fun to go to New York during the Christmas season? And I went, no, not really.

SPEAKER_06

Last time I was there in the winter, we were stuck on the runway for four and a half hours while they de-iced and plowed the the runway. Yeah, cold weather in the winter sucks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, well, the the apartment my daughter lives in with her roommate is about 900 square feet.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, yeah. Pretty big.

SPEAKER_01

That's huge. No, that's that's three bedrooms, 900 square feet. That's a living room, a bathroom, and two bedrooms. And that's crazy. My wife's like, let's we'll just stay with her. I went.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, oh, in that context, it's not very big.

SPEAKER_01

I go, Are you are you crazy? I said, There's there's not enough room for three people, and you want to bring three more air mattress. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, so bunk beds and shit.

SPEAKER_01

But there's a bomb ass pizza shop two blocks up the street.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, dude, there's probably seven of them.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, we looked all around when I went there because I went to help her move into it. And uh yeah, oh dude's so good.

SPEAKER_06

You know what would be a sick golf trip is to stay in New York, but then you're playing like Sleepy Hollow and Wingfoot and go over to Long Island, Long Island, Long Island with Fishers.

SPEAKER_01

You imagine like riding clubs on a golf trip. I see people doing it.

SPEAKER_07

That'd be a flex. That would be that would be that would be awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Most people just Uber.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, so much out there. That would be an interesting one.

SPEAKER_01

So much out there. We're going in December, so no golf.

SPEAKER_06

You can go to the Chelsea chair, uh the Chelsea PRC beard, which is crazy expensive. Yeah, I went there.

SPEAKER_01

And dude, they are claustrophobic as hell.

SPEAKER_06

There's divots in the turf.

SPEAKER_01

It's old Las Vegas Golf Center. Yeah, yeah. Or or desert pines. Check this out. So I got I got the I got the rock form case, right? And really happy with it, really like it. It sticks on the on the golf cart now. So tested that out yesterday. But I have one of those uh little slant things that you set it down to that's wireless charging, right? And so at night it's like my my clock, right? What's going on here? The rock form case doesn't connect to it. And I'm like, son of a bitch. So I was looking, I'm like, I just I got the stand, I just need something to connect to it. So rock form sells this, right? Oh, yeah, and it's touted, it's touted as a wireless charger, right? Oh wireless charger, right? The piece to charge wireless thing. This is wireless, but you gotta plug it in.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, so it doesn't hold the charge.

SPEAKER_07

No, oh so that's that's wildly deceiving from a wireless wireless charger.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, this is not wireless.

SPEAKER_06

No, I mean that would be cool if you could charge that little disc and then throw it on the back.

SPEAKER_01

Take it with you, yeah. Yeah, but I mean it's really nice because it's got it's got a little kickstand, so you can pop it up and then it it comes out, so you can you know hang it over your screen if you want. But I'm like, this is not wireless. I can I can take this off and plug it into my phone.

SPEAKER_07

What is the based on the description? You would assume that taking that cord out, it would continue to charge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean it's heavy too.

SPEAKER_01

Very deceptive, but it's like charge your phone wireless plug it into your phone, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Or I could just do this and plug it like this.

SPEAKER_01

Oh so weird. I'm like, these bastards got me, but it's it's something that works. Oh yeah, I got a question. Oh, okay. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_06

So back to the golf trip stuff. So now that I've been on a trip where we stayed at the resort at Bandon, and then a trip where we drove all over Creation in Nebraska. What is your preferred style of golf trip? Do you like going and staying, or do you like adventuring and zigzagging all over?

SPEAKER_01

Hell of an eye roll from Joe. That was a mix.

SPEAKER_06

I like a mix.

SPEAKER_02

I like a mix.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I think it's good to do both. I prefer the second, though. I prefer the like scrambling from gas stations and hotels to get people, it's fun.

SPEAKER_07

I think it depends on the number of people you're with, too.

SPEAKER_06

Um I think one car, it's good.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, but if you have two groups, you are just 100%. Yeah, yep. Yeah, yeah. Uh we've got a group that um it's eight guys that it's kind of a group of guys from work that are um and then also from kind of our area that we know. Um, but you know, managing more than four people if you're driving around and stuff is a lot. Uh typically that a group that size, it's much easier to just stay and play where you're at.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

But if you've got a couple of your, you know, a few of your really good friends and you're going as a foursome like you guys did, like I think a road trip like that is a blast.

SPEAKER_02

It was awesome. It was a sh it was a lot though.

SPEAKER_01

Like, yeah, the landman one was it was a lot because it was a different hotel every night.

SPEAKER_07

So you're unloading. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But I I love what we did on the the Reynolds trip because it was like three days at a nice resort, and then one day on the road, one day on the road, and then you know, bounce.

SPEAKER_02

See, that was the perfect mix. Yeah, that was Georgia trip is still one of my favorites, still one of my favorite golf trips.

How to game plan a golf trip

SPEAKER_07

That's so uh I just went down to uh Georgia with my buddy Matt, who's also uh one of my coworkers, and we did uh we did the four Hadley Classic tournament in Atlanta, played around down there, stayed a couple nights in a hotel, and then drove up to Macklemore, were there for a few nights and played there for three days, and then we were done. But like that's a that's a good, you know, in my opinion. Um, you know, you get settled in somewhere for a couple nights, play around there, you know, play a few rounds, and then yeah, to Joe's point, going every night switching hotels is that's a lot. We also drove like 1200 miles.

SPEAKER_01

We were across the entire state. We were in Sioux Cig, and then we were in, you know, at Landman, but then we had you know five-hour drive to Tatonka, two and a half hour drive to Prairie Jones, and I mean staying there a ride to the airport, and then a five-hour ride to the airport. So it was wild, it was a stretch.

SPEAKER_02

I wouldn't change it for anything though.

SPEAKER_07

No, but if you ignore the annoyance of kind of the lodging and stuff, if you ask me, like, you know, if you're gonna go to the Pinehurst area, would I rather stay on Pinehurst Resort and play the courses there because it's just a nice place to stay all one spot, or would I drive around and play all the really awesome courses all over the place? I would rather do that, yeah. Yeah, you know, like you you talk about, you know, there's a couple courses on on Pinehurst property, obviously, I would want to play, but there are some very good courses off of property that are worth driving around for. Yeah, you know, if you want to if you want to optimize your golf experience, it's probably worth driving around.

SPEAKER_02

I think that's one of those things, like there's benefits to both, and there's like me, like me and Dan when we went out there and did band and um and didn't stay on resort, like there's benefits to both, you know, and it kind of depends on what type of person you are. If you like, if you like the comfort, you know, like like Cliff, who we went to uh Landman with and Prairie Club, and you know, he's he is a full go getter for golf courses and wants to check them all off and he wants the service, and not saying he's down to get down and rugged, but like you know, I'm an I'm an adventurer and I love stopping at the local grocery stores to see if they got a new cereal that I haven't seen at my local grocery shop, you know what I mean? So it's like it's one of those things, and also like if I didn't stay on the resort at Mandan, I would never experience that shower head, and it's one of the greatest shower heads I've ever laid my head down before, you know. But some good practice. Dude, yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It just it just pisses excellence all over you, dude.

SPEAKER_07

Dismal Dismal River. I raved the entire trip about the the water pressure in those showers. They were like those big, like walk-in steamers that like a door that you closed, and then the whole thing just steams up.

SPEAKER_01

Oh the shower feels like it's hugging you.

SPEAKER_07

It's like an exfoliating thing, right? You feel like you're getting an exfoliation treatment while you're in the shower.

SPEAKER_02

It's awesome. After a day of walking and playing golf all day, and it just blows the sweat off. You know, full belly and meatloaf, and like it just hits so differently, you know what I mean? And it's but I think you gotta experience both, you know. If if it's somewhere that you really truly love and enjoyed your experience, I think it there's benefits to experiencing the other side and and playing it as a local, if you will. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

What was the town that we stayed that best western in? Um, it was Valentine. Oh no, oh Valentine. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

That hotel was sketch.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, dude, not too many people are like, Hey, remember the best western in Valentine?

SPEAKER_07

I mean, that's where uh Arbor Lynx is. That's where one of the dorming properties is Valentine, Nebraska. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we were right there.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that hotel had a funk, dude. Oh the smell, man. I feel like old swimming pool, dude. It was bad. Probably not the best showers there.

SPEAKER_03

Old swimming pool, dude.

SPEAKER_02

It worked fine, but there was a dude gonna pop in the window like in the middle of night and just ask you where your Febreze was. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

I took a picture of the hallway, and I'm like, this is straight horror movie.

SPEAKER_02

Lights are flickering.

SPEAKER_06

That's looking for the picture.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and and it was uh we drove like 45 minutes on a dirt road, in you know, and we saw a house every 30 minutes, maybe uh or 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, it was out like the hills have eyes, you're waiting for your tires to blow out from the rumble stuff.

SPEAKER_06

That's keepers creepers is following us in the back in the rear view mirror.

SPEAKER_01

You know, we had to turn down a dirt road and we're driving. There's like there's a house out here, and you can just like they're on the porch going, got another one.

SPEAKER_07

Yep, it's the same house over and over for an hour. Those golfers boys taste real good.

SPEAKER_02

That's one of those things, though. Like, I'll I'll remember that forever. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, that's what makes those trips incredible. It's it's not necessarily the the destination, it's the journey, you know. Like, I'll remember that trip with with these guys forever.

SPEAKER_06

I just remember like when we were driving, it was it was late, it was like 10. And we're driving, and it's just dirt, and it's just silent in the car. We're all like a little were a little bit worried, so no one's talking.

SPEAKER_07

Well, because you're in an area where like you're not sure the GPS is even working, you know. It's got the it's got the route up, but you're not sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, that's that that that was the hotel.

SPEAKER_07

Oh god, that's like the hotel from the shining. Yeah, I was like, it looked like a mental hospital.

SPEAKER_01

Oh god, yeah, it was it was not good.

SPEAKER_02

Also, before we got to that best western, uh payment failed, or the homie from whatnot was like, Hey, be careful checking in this close to the res.

SPEAKER_07

And I was like, That what like we're checking close into a reservation, and uh it's no, he meant the reservation the eight or exactly.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and there was there, it was it was a little creepy out there.

SPEAKER_01

This was us in the middle of absolutely nowhere. That's a cool picture.

SPEAKER_02

Nowhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's fun though, it was very one thing that I did enjoy was the sunsets last forever. Oh no, there's no mountains like we have the sun drops behind the mountain, you know, but the sunsets there just lasted forever.

SPEAKER_07

Golden hour in the sand hills in Nebraska, it lasts for two hours. Yeah, that's why those pictures are so cool.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, this was like it took forever for that to go away. I mean, it was just amazing.

SPEAKER_07

When we were with Brian at uh Dismal River a couple of years ago, when it was five o'clock, it was it was like he was a kid in a candy store. He was he was he was running around with his drone, like we couldn't even keep up with him. It was unbelievable. Golden hour light special. Oh, yeah, yeah. For the drone photographers, that's uh that's the money shot. He's so he's so good. Yeah, he's so good.

SPEAKER_01

This was on the golf course, yeah, baby.

SPEAKER_06

What is that called again, Dan? Cannabis, yeah. That specific strain. Oh, you called the strain. Dan's a professional. What did I call it? Dutch weed or something, or yeah, ditch weed. Oh, ditch weed, ditch weed, yeah. It's shit weed, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was it was everywhere at Tatanka.

SPEAKER_07

I've I'm helping Jeremy look for a ball, and I'm like kind of smelled like it just grows wild there, wild. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. That's crazy. That's nuts. Yeah, it probably isn't very good, but probably probably could do the trick.

SPEAKER_01

No, I mean it gets the Indian's eye, probably.

SPEAKER_07

What do they call the uh little seed things? They call them beaner. Oh, that's I mean, that's what they call them in the Midwest, those little seeds that you gotta pull out. Yeah, a lot of those in there. There'd be no seeds, no seeds, Jeremy. You know what I was gonna say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's what they call them in the Midwest. Like, yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, those are something else here, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

All right, anything else you want to talk about, boys? I think it'll be cool. We'll see how it goes.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah. How about uh Joe with the subtle flex with the Olympic club hat coming in?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, he's gotta change his hands.

SPEAKER_07

I've never played it, I've never played it. I bought this.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, wasn't there a discussion about this? You can't be wearing that hat.

SPEAKER_02

I think discussion about this if it's like free like 93. I think oh you can caveat.

SPEAKER_06

Speaking of Olympic Club, when we played LBCC with Dan's buddy Kyle, they were talking about the course record for burger dogs being consumed during a round. And I guess it's what was it, seven? Seven.

SPEAKER_07

Oh my god, burger dogs, those sound delicious. And that sounds really easy to beat.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's a burger that's in a hot dog bun.

SPEAKER_06

It sounds perfect. Yeah, I love that. So he's gonna try to break it next time he's there.

SPEAKER_03

Kyle's going there soon, and uh he said he's gonna do eight. Wow, they do look so good, those burger dogs.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I mashed up that video, I'm gonna post it tomorrow. Um of of Dan and his uh dude, that was so funny. You gotta see this mic, it's funny. Oh, you know, I may be able to do it this way.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, from L Vcc.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, let me see if I just know that's that Purcell flag, dude. Like Mike, I loved I love the Purcell logo so much. I just noticed that.

SPEAKER_07

Let's see if can you name any of the other flags there? Matt Matt couldn't.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I got I got one of them. Yeah, I got them all.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, you did get the bottom, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's Dismal Leto, uh Purcell, and then it looks like stream song, but you're blocking it a bit.

SPEAKER_07

Yep, you got it all. Yeah. Ding ding ding ding ding. And then I think I have a flag from you, Joe, somewhere. Uh I don't know where it is, but it's uh uh St. Andrews flag.

SPEAKER_02

No, you sent that to me. I have it right here. Oh, I sent it to you. You bought it from tradition and you sent it. You sent it to me. It's right here.

SPEAKER_07

I think I sent you a um it's right here. Oh, yeah, there it is. Yeah. All right. Here it is.

SPEAKER_02

I popped in and I was like, what's happening?

SPEAKER_03

Mike, where's this? Mike, where's this one from?

SPEAKER_07

Oh god, you're quizzing me now. Uh move it up. Is that landman? No, I don't I don't know. Stream song.

SPEAKER_01

Stream song.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, is that black? Is that black?

SPEAKER_03

It's signed by Gil Hans.

SPEAKER_07

That's black, right?

SPEAKER_03

That's cool.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, they kind of over uh over photographed that windmill on black. That's like the only hole I ever see of it. Yeah, this one. It's a lot cooler course than that.

SPEAKER_02

Course flown. Mike, come on, course that is awesome. That's number one. Yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_07

It's preserve. Is that preserve 13? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Shout out to homie I know out there keeping the greens tight for us.

SPEAKER_01

It's the flag show. All right, watch this video. Watch this. So Dan made a birdie and his buddy threw it in the water.

SPEAKER_04

This was to win the match. Me and Dan were playing the the two. So you guys are playing them.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, great butt, Dan.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's a real good butt.

SPEAKER_03

And then there's my homie. He grabs a ball out of the hole, throws it in the lake. I'm fucking laughing.

SPEAKER_02

And then whoop whoop. But what you don't what you don't hear is the audio either, Mike. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, that's fantastic. Wait, Dan, was that you that threw it in the or uh Jeremy, was that you that threw it in the water?

SPEAKER_06

No, that was his buddy Kyle.

SPEAKER_07

That was my buddy Kyle. Were you playing against him or was he your partner?

SPEAKER_03

Oh me and Jeremy were partners against against Kyle and his buddy.

SPEAKER_06

And neither of us have played good all day.

SPEAKER_07

You drain the putt to beat him, and then he throws it in the water. That's tough. That's that's not a great loser.

SPEAKER_03

The only two birdies I made all day were one and eighteen. I made that putt on 18 and then I chipped in from like 30 yards on one.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, one's not an easy hole. And he gets butthurt and throws your ball in the water.

SPEAKER_03

Like I've known this guy.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, he's like your brother. Okay, yeah. My butt, my brother would do that to me, so I'd yeah, yeah. I've known this kid since he was like nine.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay. Like 36 or 37 now. So yeah, it's totally fine. He was acting like a little bit of a bitch.

SPEAKER_07

That was like a 20-footer, though, wasn't it? That looked like a pretty decent long putt.

SPEAKER_02

That's a nasty putt, my dad. That was uh that was a long putt.

SPEAKER_03

Straight downhill.

SPEAKER_02

Those are super pure right now.

SPEAKER_03

But you know where it didn't matter. Where was that? Because that was that lovely. Oh, okay. It didn't matter anyway, because Jeremy had a five or six footer for Birdie and he drained his too.

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SPEAKER_02

So yeah, unfortunately, but yeah, that was Dan made his nasty boy's no pricey boys. Great pot.

SPEAKER_03

Jeremy hit a great shot in there. He had like 70 yards with a front pin with like 12 feet of green to work with short of the pin. And from that short, he hits it to like six, seven feet.

SPEAKER_06

So I have that on video.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Jeremy actually hit played that hole a lot better than I did, but I just happened to make the longer buttons.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like you guys have a lot of video clips you could clip up and yeah, trying to well, I I have to beg these fools to get me content.

SPEAKER_06

Dan and I aren't very good at recording good anymore.

SPEAKER_01

I used to be pretty and Dan has like two megabytes of data of photos on his on his phone.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't I I stream music during golf, I don't uh take videos or anything like that. I'm terrible about social media.

SPEAKER_01

So I I get excited when they send me stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, yes, I got something to post.

SPEAKER_06

I'll send you, I'll send you some more tonight.

SPEAKER_07

Oh yeah, I just got this like uh it's like a stick and it's got a magnet that you don't even need an attachment for, it just goes right to the back of your phone.

SPEAKER_08

Yep.

SPEAKER_07

Um, and it's got a stake on the bottom. You literally just put it in the ground, yeah, and it and it extends out. It's super easy to use. I brought it to Dismal and I've been using it for a while. It's and it was only like yeah, it's like the it's a version of that range thing. Um yeah, the I range, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01

Joe has one that's got a javelin on the end of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

That's that's essentially what mine is, it's got a big stake on the end of it. Lamar Latrell.

SPEAKER_01

No, Joe's Joe's like has the ending javelin on it, it's massive.

SPEAKER_07

It's just it's a lot easier than using a like a uh tripod because you just but it works really well and it's easy to use. It was like$30 on Amazon.

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SPEAKER_02

I need to get one of those eye ranges.

SPEAKER_07

I really do.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he brought it out. I was like, oh, did you get that on Oak Island? Like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_07

Oh, what's the new hat, Joe? What is that?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, another hat this is wild horse, wild horse, wild horse, vintage wild horse.

SPEAKER_01

This is how many hats are you wearing to this?

SPEAKER_02

This is where I started. Uh this is where I started playing golf for the most part. That's a top golf hat.

SPEAKER_07

This is what Whatnot did to me. Look at that range, all those hats, bro.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I see. The is that a great Big Bertha?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, that was my favorite driver. That's the two bags my dad gave me. It's all like old Big Bertha's and persimmons, and yeah, I got a titleist uh D in there. What was that? The BGC hat. Did I see a BGC? So that's a Puma hat. Yeah, yeah, it just says BGC. I have no idea why, but actually, that was on your show, Joe. Well, I'm pretty sure it was on your show, or no, it was on a different show that you tagged me. You're like, look at this hat. Oh, yeah, that's what it was. I don't remember whose show it was, but it was someone's show, and you're like, dude, look at this hat, it says BGC, and I paid too much for it. Yeah, I probably spent like 50 bucks on it. I was not gonna lose that hat. Yeah, it doesn't even fit, it doesn't even fit my giant melon.

SPEAKER_02

I wear like a seven and three-quarters hat ten dollars on this. That's what I wear.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, that's what I wear seven and three-quarters. Dude, the XL like stretchy fit hats still leave a line on my head. It's bad.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's that's what this is.

SPEAKER_07

I got the I will say, uh, Dan, your brother's hats are nice. I like those. Yeah, Matt. Yeah, Matt, the traditional hats. He he is is he your he's your brother, right?

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no, not my real brother. He's just brother in life. Yeah, I've just got it. Another another brother, another brother, all right. Mother from another mother, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

No, he's a good dude. I like him a lot. Yeah, that's what it did. Yeah, traditions. I'll be honest, I was sad he didn't win that match against that other dude.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, maybe yeah, but Maddie's don't Maddie he talks a lot of shit, but uh yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Well, in a match like that, leading up to that to promote it, you kind of have to.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, he used to be pretty good, but like ever since he stopped playing college golf and kind of got more involved with drinking and chasing women and shit like that, his game kind of went away.

SPEAKER_02

But can we tell the story? Uh we're behind a paywall now, right? Like, like the story of Purcell and how dope tradition Matt is. Yeah, you want to start it off? Tell it. So we on our Georgia trip when we won that um Lake Oconey stay, you know, we're in like we're east of Augusta. Or no, we're no west of Augusta, we're east of Atlanta. East of Atlanta. And then we're traveling up to Macklamore, and then we go stop at Sweetens. We don't play Sweetens. None of us play golf.

SPEAKER_05

Some of us don't play Sweetens.

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SPEAKER_02

But anyway, so then our next stop is Purcell Farm and uh the Matt tradition, you know, Dan's like, he's we're good. We show up, right? And uh we're we check in and they're like, We don't we don't have you, we don't we don't have anything for you. There's no tea time. Dan calls him and he's like, give me a second. I'll never forget this, dude. And he was like, he's like, give me a minute. And then uh he calls Dan and he's like, You guys are good. And then we walk up back up to the check-in desk, and they're like, Yes, whatever you need.

SPEAKER_01

There you go.

SPEAKER_02

Archer Wade play Burcell.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was he's he's he spends a lot of money in that place. He does he hosts a tournament there called The Tradition, and he pays big, big, big dollars for it.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, yeah, and he gets it like a is it a social media tournament? Like, what is it?

SPEAKER_03

It's a it's more of a VIP clientele um from his gas and pipeline. Um his real job, his gas and pipeline job. Oh and uh it's also some good money in that, yeah. Yeah, um little so he uh he buys the course, he buys out the whole property, and they're there for like three or four days. Oh they have like they do like the horseback riding, the quality of he's probably got Martin Purcell's cell phone. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it. Yeah, um, so he's been doing that for like the last like six years, I want to say five or six years four years, four or five years ago. So anyway, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, I called him up, he's like, I got you, and then like 20 minutes later, I I honestly have never felt doper in my entire life.

SPEAKER_07

You guys did you guys play that sick uh super downhill par three on the farmlink scores? Oh, yeah, that that looks so freaking cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And then we went and stayed in a fucking little budget seagull suites place, and it was uh Matt was on the couch.

SPEAKER_01

I had a love seat that was like nine degree. That's tough.

SPEAKER_07

Sleeping on a couch might be my least like my back sucks.

SPEAKER_01

Sleeping on a couch is possible, but that thing was that thing like the Flintstones.

SPEAKER_07

It was a I need to be able to like sprawl out when I sleep. So sleeping on a couch is just out of the like oh it's terrible.

SPEAKER_03

Well, what had happened was while we were at farm links, they called me. Oh, yeah, we were on the putting green. The hotel called me like, hey, we're gonna have to cancel your reservation. Yeah, um, we see that we see that you booked this and this and that. We have the hotel is closed for renovations. Like, we're sorry for that, but you know, the property is closed, so like the day of, yeah, yeah, like like you were gonna go there a couple hours and then go check into the hotel after the round of golf. Yeah, so they're like, sorry, we're closed, good luck. Yeah, they called us like seven hours before we were supposed to show up. Um I hope they comp your golf. That's tough. So um, I'm not sure if we if we booked something else or if they transferred us we were looking for everything to another property. But anyway, we got a two-bedroom, we were able to squeeze the two-bedroom with three beds, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

With three bedroom with three beds, and there was four of us.

SPEAKER_03

So that's the only thing. There was four of us.

SPEAKER_01

Oh Matt, you're the oldest and shortest. You can sleep on the couch.

SPEAKER_02

He fit in that thing perfectly, super snug, dude. He was listen to Joe.

SPEAKER_01

Joe says he fit into that couch perfectly.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Joe. No, no, it's made for him.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, Jeremy's little dog wouldn't like that couch.

SPEAKER_02

No, it was it's perfect. Jeremy's little dog 32-inch butter. It was a 32-inch putter sofa. He was fine.

SPEAKER_07

God, it was horrible.

SPEAKER_02

But we did find one of the greatest hidden gems.

SPEAKER_07

Discussion right now is why golf trips are so fucking awesome. Yeah, they're the best, dude. Well, because you guys will tell the story the rest of your lives.

SPEAKER_03

That was the trip where the uh the e-sando came into uh existence.

SPEAKER_02

Yep, that's the fruition of the e sando and Bob becoming Robert.

SPEAKER_01

We found out about that.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, two IPAs Robert Bob has a two IPA led.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, the kids can batch up to you. I don't think that trip could be topped, and how much fun that thing was. Oh, and then we found one of the greatest hidden gems in Alabama, and nobody I've never heard anybody else talk about that golf course. Timberline was so much fucking fun. I was in there, like my back was fucking killing me the whole day. He was fired. I've never heard anyone talk about the golf course. Nobody else, I've never heard anyone ever bring up Timberline, and that place was so much fun.

SPEAKER_07

Where was it?

SPEAKER_02

It's just south of Birmingham, south of Birmingham.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Jerry Pate design. Did you guys play any of the uh the RCP?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's another thing. That's another one.

SPEAKER_03

No, we were supposed to play Ross Bridge, yeah. But uh just after we had booked it, something happened with one of the maintenance guys, yeah. The NEMA guy uh the uh maintenance when they got their yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

No, they were treating the greens for nematodes, and the guy put down the wrong chemical and destroyed all of their greens, yeah. Yeah, and they had to do they had to do like a two-year renovation.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they said we have one 17 and 18 you can put on, but yeah, no, that that completely screwed them for like 18 months.

SPEAKER_07

It was bad, really. I was looking forward to that because the grass bridge looks dope. Oh god, oh it looks sick. They're the way they use the water all over the course and stuff, it looks unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01

I've played Silver Lakes out there, it's very hard on the RTJ. That's amazing, and then Silver Lakes, yeah. Silver Lake, that's part of the RPG that's up a little bit further up north, and then in Oxford I played Cider Ridge, which is another so much fun golf course.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I think it's kind of a blessing because we found like such a dope ass hidden gem. Like you guys remember that hole? It was a fucking it was a C. It was a C, it was a short par four, and it was literally a C. And you had to hit it over these fucking 120-foot like trees to get on the green.

SPEAKER_07

Matt's back was probably really ready to hold that draw off on that hole. Oh, he was no, he just needed that little slice to hold it off real quick.

SPEAKER_01

We also found the real shit hole, too. I was a grumpy fuck that day.

SPEAKER_02

That's true, yeah. That's true. But uh, and there's train tracks all through it. It's uh it's a fucking dot and the meadows.

SPEAKER_03

The meadows, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, what was the name of the chainsaw massacre was filmed at the meadows?

SPEAKER_07

Oh god, yeah. Leatherface was the uh the starter starter logo on the flag.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, logo's face's range. Bob lost his range finder there. Yes, he did. Calls him when he gets back to Vegas. We're like, Yep, we found it. We'll we'll mail it out to you.

SPEAKER_07

That never came. Still haven't gotten it.

SPEAKER_03

Still in the mail. Yep. The tracking number is still active.

SPEAKER_00

It's still active, it'll never be picked up.

SPEAKER_02

That was that was a blast of a trip, man.

SPEAKER_03

What was the name of that pizza place we told us it was dog shit? Fucking hungry howies or something like that?

SPEAKER_02

No, no, no, no. It was uh mellow mushroom. Mellow mushroom.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's where we went and celebrated my hold one because the entire town was closed.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. The moments we live for, man. That was that was an absolute blast of a trip. And I go in, Mike, I go wait for the day that another golf trip tops that.

SPEAKER_01

I go into the golf course the next day to get a flag, right? And and I walk in, and I walk in, and yeah, they're all the same, they don't have the different courses. It's just I got it up here, right? It's just rentals like a cone. It didn't have the preserved flag, which I should have just taken it off the the flag that we were there. Nobody was out there, nobody was out there. All the people applauding on the on the patio maze at something, but so I go in, I'm like Oh, you had a little audience for your ace, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, that's nice.

SPEAKER_01

I go, uh, I said to the girl behind the counter, I said, Yeah, I played her yesterday. I had a hole in one on number six or whatever it was. I said, Do you have any flags? She's like, Yeah, they're right there. I said, Okay, and she goes, 34.95. And I was like, Dan, how about a congrats?

SPEAKER_06

Or cookies, dude. The one abandoned, though, they took care of you, Dan at Sheep.

SPEAKER_03

The one at Bandon was awesome for Dan.

SPEAKER_06

That was awesome.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yeah. They gave me the uh where the fuck is that thing at? You can't see around all his trophies there. Yeah, I was gonna say, just probably behind one of those.

SPEAKER_02

You gave me one of these, yeah. On the hole, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It takes me on the hole.

SPEAKER_02

I'll never forget that either.

SPEAKER_03

That's so cool. The scorecard. Oh, in the back. You know what? Bandit just knows how to do it. They know how to do it immediately. They're like, Oh, you got a hole in one? Like, oh here, hang on. And they're like, What hole? Well, everybody heard about it.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, everyone knew about it, and they were so happy.

SPEAKER_03

So that's so cool.

SPEAKER_02

And then Joe hooked up the Joe hooked up.

SPEAKER_07

I've I've heard similar things about sand like Kaiser properties, just know how to do it, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, Dream Gulf, you know.

SPEAKER_07

So, yeah, that's that's so cool. You guys had a video online of that, right? Of Dan's ace, I'm pretty sure. Uh we didn't, I think not at the time. Dan, I thought there was no, but there was one on the green where Dan was walking up to the whole. Yeah, I remember seeing that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, you know what all what sucks is like with Matt's ace in Georgia, I was like, I'm gonna film. And then Matt says that we were trying to hit each other. Oh, they're back there playing, and then uh like literally, I like I felt it and I was like, Oh, I'm gonna pull out my phone and record, but it was just too late, he already hit it, so it's like it's you know, capture those moments, but they'll forever live in here in the heart and the mind, and it doesn't get any better, dude. I vividly remember it.

SPEAKER_03

I watched it go in, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And that's the thing, we saw Dan's go in. We didn't we weren't for sure on Matt's, but like there was no mistaking Dan's, which made it feel a little crazier, yeah.

Joe's almost hole in one

SPEAKER_07

So so what's better? So that's the question. What's better? Seeing a ball drop, or the anticipation of that could have gone in and driving up to the hole and not seeing one on the green and running out to the hole and looking in the hole, or seeing it drop and then it's not in the hole.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's terrible.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, have you seen Joe's?

SPEAKER_07

That's Joe's shot of. Oh no, I haven't. You guys thought you thought you had an ace and it didn't go in.

SPEAKER_01

I ran up to the next T box and looked, and I jumped and I couldn't see anything. And I'm like, dude, I saw it drop, I saw it drop. We drove all the way up to the green. We're walking up to the to the green, and there's a ridge that the flag is behind.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no, and uh hanging over the hole, and that's just like you don't have the picture in your phone, yeah. I got it, it's in there somewhere. You gotta see you gotta see this, Mike. It's like that's going to have a dripple.

SPEAKER_02

It's in depressing photo. There's no other situation where that can't be in. And I'm like, dude, just chill out a little bit. I don't know. I've never this never happened to me before. Like, let's just calm down a little. And he's going, it's fucking in.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, it's in, it's in, and then it's hanging on the lip, bro. It's the most depressing photo ever.

SPEAKER_02

I know Joe's face is just defeated. It's on the top side of the mountain, too, which everything's running downhill, and it's literally hanging. Uh Joe's face is all and it was in a it was in an S NGA tournament. I would have been on his left forever.

SPEAKER_07

Have any of you guys had an ace where you couldn't see it going and you went to the hole and it was in? Mine, yeah. That was that was you, Matt. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I I remember being nervous truck because I was like, I was almost positive because I was on the T-box. I'm like, that's in, that's gotta be in, that's gotta be in.

SPEAKER_02

And when we went up there, and it was it was it was we also were playing at dusk, so it was a little yeah.

SPEAKER_07

We were looking so I guess if if there's a time when you like don't see it go in and you think it did, and then you go and it's not in, like like Joe's like, that's a that's a real brutal downer. But like if it is in, like that moment you see it in the hole, you're going nuts. Like, that would be really cool. But I think seeing it seeing it on the T-box with all everyone on like that's that's the yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

No, the ultimate, like you know, you're on a golf trip with your homies, and you actually see it go in, and they were yelling at everyone goes nuts to the group behind us. Like, that was pretty wow. Yeah, it wasn't even them, dude.

SPEAKER_07

Especially band it wasn't, yeah. Dan, that wasn't your first ace, right? Dan, I'm assuming. No, yeah, no, no, that was number seven. Seven, yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was a moment, though. Yeah, that's awesome. That's why golf trips are special. You'll remember all those moments forever. Do it for the moment.

SPEAKER_03

I gotta find it somewhere. That was that was sick. That was my first one in in almost 18 years. Jeez, like I have it here. Holy cow, scarce one almost 18 years. I got three in the summer of 2003 or four. I made three of those bitches in like four month span.

SPEAKER_07

It's crazy how they run in spurts. Yeah, you see these videos of of of like some asshole that gets two in one round. You're like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_02

Strokes gain, Neil.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He had two double eagles at uh two albatrosses on the what at at at Sweeton's Cove, it's it was the same hole, two different pin locations.

SPEAKER_02

He has like 38 hole-in-one. Who is this?

SPEAKER_01

My buddy Neil.

SPEAKER_02

Neil. Oh, you got the video too.

SPEAKER_01

We're pretty sure we saw it drop in the hall.

SPEAKER_03

We're pr uh he's pretty sure.

SPEAKER_07

Oh Joe's like, I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_03

Joe's trying to keep his emotions in check and shit. He's about ready to shed a tear.

unknown

It looked like it dropped.

SPEAKER_07

I went in and it dropped.

SPEAKER_02

Oh dude, he was on the front T-box jumping like it's in. Just hyping me out. Uh oh. Uh oh. Because he got a what? 13?

SPEAKER_07

Oh, I remember this hole. I went left.

SPEAKER_02

With the waterfall behind it.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So hard to watch.

SPEAKER_03

This is I I know. It is the closest thing I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, I don't think you can get closer, dude.

SPEAKER_03

Not go in.

SPEAKER_07

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03

Look at the face. I mean, you could breathe on it.

SPEAKER_02

We put the shadow. We tried to put the shadow. Oh my god, that's brutal. Put a little creak on it.

SPEAKER_07

Oh my god. That's not Joe, that's nauseating.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And I didn't even hit the shot.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

In my Greg Norman shorts.

SPEAKER_07

So the question is if he's standing over it with his shadow and it would drop. Does that count?

SPEAKER_01

If it's within the time line.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah. I don't know. Oh, but yeah, that was brutal.

SPEAKER_01

That's the closest. I mean, that's just wrong.

SPEAKER_02

I mean half the ball was hanging over it. It's that's awesome. Close as anyone's ever been, honestly.

SPEAKER_07

Like the wind shifts that's going in.

SPEAKER_02

Like as it's sitting there. Like as it's sitting there. The brutal thing about it was the front of the green was higher than where the flag was. And uh it literally did look like it fell in the hole, and uh it did not. We missed the habit.

SPEAKER_00

I was more excited than he was.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah, I was trying to control it. I mean, that was what as the as the one that like hit the ball, like you don't want to 2020 buy into the I hit and and the thing is, is like I had a fucking perfect eight iron. I remember it was beautiful. I hit a perfect, perfect, perfect eight iron. Almost and uh, you know, and my when I get my hole in one, it's gonna be a little fucking thinny boy. That's that's how mine was out of the bunker into the hole.

SPEAKER_07

I was 20 years old and literally played like three rounds of golf, and I'm with my dad at our country club in Appleton that basically he and his dad grew up on, but I like didn't play much golf, and I hit a thin nine iron from about 130 yards, it bounced two times and went the hole. And the crazy part is my grandpa, his dad, and him and I all have an ace on the same exact hole on that hole. Oh, wow! Wow, yeah, so I was with my dad when I did it, and it was really cool. Like, he got all choked up and like screamed his face off. And I I had just started playing golf. I was like, Oh, I've made it like that's cool. Yeah, like that's is that like how you like? Oh, yeah, like is that like mini golf? Like, that's pretty neat. Like, I made one, and my dad went bonkers, he was screaming his face like because he's a long, like a you know, lifelong golfer, and I had just started, I was like 20 years old, and uh yeah, it was neat, and he's gotten a another one on that same hole, so he has two, and his dad has one, and we were all on the T-Box with our dads when we got them, which was kind of neat.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's awesome! Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

The game transcends, it's so cool, it's such a cool game, it really is. Really is, and to your point, Joe, like I thinned the shit out of it. It wasn't a good shot, like yeah, you know, for a 20-year-old that doesn't play golf, I guess I I had the right line, you know.

SPEAKER_02

But it wasn't it wasn't a good shot. I fully remember the moment, which sucks because I I probably hit one of the greatest eight irons I've ever hit in my life, and uh yeah, left with that one. So I can't wait. I can't wait till I top a fucking birdie. It was a great it was a good bird. Did you get a scan at least? Uh no, they have money games. They didn't have skins in that right now. I don't think so, but it was an SNGA tournament. I you know, I I could have become Vegas lore, you know, but now I'm just on the Jason Daylight podcast and selling golf clubs on whatnot. Have you you guys have had aces in those tournaments, haven't you? Uh sure SNGA, I don't know. The only ace that that has happened in the VGN was KC.

SPEAKER_03

He owns this smoke lounge.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he hit one and uh he did it at um Mountain Falls, Mountain Falls per un and he opened the bar like an absolute legend, as you should, because he won a thousand dollars. And uh yeah, that thousand should go to a bar tab. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_07

Yep, yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Tradition is shout out shout out Dan with his with his ace at Bandon on Sheep. Oh my god. We had full rain at McKee's pub and we were all so that ain't a cheap bar.

SPEAKER_07

I'm assuming I've never been there, but I'm assuming those drinks aren't cheap.

SPEAKER_03

Well, here's the thing he didn't it's not like I paid for it. Um we have a stipulation we were doing a dollar per yard if somebody made a hole in one, got paid from the other boys. Oh so I got 147 dollars from seven guys, but I turned around and use that money to pay for everything at McKee's.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, that was part of your like group deal, like if yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's awesome! How cool is that?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I had to be over a hundred tab.

SPEAKER_03

Good for you, Dan.

SPEAKER_02

So I just had to be over a hundred.

SPEAKER_03

Everybody, get your dinner, get your drinks. I got you. That's great. Yeah, own stuff.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, that's a team player, right there, Dan.

SPEAKER_02

That is the way.

SPEAKER_07

That is a team player. Oh, I bet that was the best night ever.

SPEAKER_02

We were so tired, dude. Oh, dude, but that's that's what you gotta do. It was awesome, though. There's a live stream from it, too, honestly.

SPEAKER_03

I was sharpening a wine bottle opener to try to pop the blood blisters that were on my feet in that trip.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I had the 20 hour, 24-hour flu. I only played the front nine at at Sheep.

SPEAKER_07

Right. You know, if I if I come with you guys on a on a trip, I've got a kit, I've got a suture kit, I've got a little scalpel I can bring. Well, you're gonna we're gonna need it for sure.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah. I've heard my ankle.

SPEAKER_07

Pretty brutal brutal stories out of uh abandoned trips. It's a lot of walking.

SPEAKER_01

Oh the airport walk from Joe was some of the best video ever.

SPEAKER_03

The thing that sucks is like it is a lot of walking, but somehow I developed a blood blister right on the balls of my feet, like right in the middle of the of the forefront of my foot, like just past my toes, like this area. A blood blister, too. That's odd. Yeah, and it was the very first fucking day. So the other three days, oh my god, me on the left, and that's Joe with catty ass.

SPEAKER_07

Is Joe chafed up or what? He looks like he's walking with some chafing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he's chafed up from the walk in, and that's me linking.

SPEAKER_07

See, so uh Matt, you need to make a reel out of that and say, like, when Bandon hits too hard or something, like that's gonna be a real that's on YouTube.

SPEAKER_01

That's Bandon Walk of Shame, right? Yeah, it's a post-bandon airport walk by Joe. Yeah, yeah, that that's some chafage right there.

SPEAKER_07

You got some that's a that's a free gold bond advertisement, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, oh a lot of walking at Bandon, a lot of walking.

SPEAKER_07

Do you guys bring special shoes to Bandon for walking? You find a good pair of walking shoes, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, we learned.

SPEAKER_03

I I brought I brought just golf shoes, but I'm not bringing golf shoes anymore. Yeah, just bring like I wear these. The uh I'm gonna bring my most like uh hiking.

SPEAKER_07

Let me see the bottoms of those, Matt. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they're the G4s.

SPEAKER_07

Do those stick if it's wet though? Because Bandon mornings are pretty wet, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01

Uh these these are not they're not wet shoes.

SPEAKER_07

They're they're not good wet shoes.

SPEAKER_01

The new truth, though, that just came out are are really good.

SPEAKER_07

Aren't aren't morning rounds in Bandon pretty wet, though? Isn't there a lot of do?

SPEAKER_01

No, it wasn't really when we were there. Yeah, we were definitely when you go down, though. It's not bad. I've been fortunate. I've only played there once when it was wet. Pretty fortunate. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I'm here. I know you are. I know you are. So much good golf out there, man. Too much, right?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I got uh a couple whistling things up. Yeah, no, uh, we got some good golf out here, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03

I still have my uh eyes on that uh club at Loch Labelle. That's in that dude.

SPEAKER_07

That's a that's a great spot, and I don't think it's very expensive right now, actually.

SPEAKER_03

250 is cheap as fuck.

SPEAKER_07

Uh dude, they're well, I mean it'll go up, but they're uh the rack rate there is like 175, and it's only going up from the fibs. The fucking Illinois bastards coming up and playing all of our gone.

SPEAKER_03

I think they saw there was a Lake Geneva one there. I think.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, stay and play at uh Geneva National. That's probably the best uh 72 holes in southern Wisconsin, like uh Geneva National. Very good.

SPEAKER_03

And Lump Rebell and Geneva National aren't too far from each other, if I remember.

SPEAKER_07

Uh maybe an hour, yeah. Yeah, see some perfect combo, just down 94. Yeah, and then you go up to Wisconsin Dells and play Wild Rock and Trapper's Turn, you could make a real good trip out of it.

SPEAKER_03

I heard Trapper's turns. I think that's in the in the auction, also, too. Trapper's turn, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yep, yeah. There's stay and play at Trapper's too. If you come up and play with me at Wild Rock, we can uh we get set up there too. They're real good.

unknown

Fucking ass.

SPEAKER_07

And then you're only 40 minutes from San Valley.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's gonna be a whole thing.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, dude, yeah. Sand San Valley crazy part is like if you're at San Valley, you're only 30 minutes from um Century World. Um, and then you're only about an hour and a half from Lasonia. No, not even, you're like 45 minutes from Lasonia, and then if you're there, you're only an hour and a half from Aaron Hills. What are those two courses that are closest to San Valley? Closest? Yeah century Century World and then uh Lake Arrowhead.

SPEAKER_03

I think I'm thinking of Lake Arrowhead.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, Lake Arrowhead has two courses there, the the Arrow and the Lakes.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, yeah. Have you played any of those?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I've played both those. I I'm only like a half hour away from there, so it it it's uh it's Lake Arrowhead's really good. I I certainly wouldn't you know come here just to play there, but if you're gonna be at San Valley, it's you know, you can make a day out of it just to get off property. Gotcha. I wouldn't substitute it for anything at San Valley though. Yeah, yeah, exactly. San Valley's it's it's really good. If you're gonna come to Wisconsin for a buddies trip and play and you want to play a bunch of courses, uh San Valley's the play. Yeah, and it's and it's not close. Um, you know, whiz whistling's good. Um the the river course at Black Wolf is really good. Those are the two courses that are really good in that area, but outside of those two, there's not a lot within like an hour. If you're at San Valley, you play all the courses there, and then you're like 45 minutes from you know, Century World, you're you know, Lake Arrowheads right there. How's the bull? It's okay. Um, I mean it's a Nicholas. I I think the bull and the bog, the bog is right next door, too. That's a Palmer design. Um they're they're they were they were good like 25 years ago, gotcha, and now golf has just gotten better. I don't I don't know. Um they've kind of rested on their laurels. Uh they were they were really good like 25 years ago. They were probably a top five course on the eastern side of the state, and now they're not.

SPEAKER_03

I get it.

SPEAKER_07

So there's actually a course that I think is better than both of those called um Fire Fire Ridge. That's also a Palmer design uh that's actually it's on golf now, like once a week for like$40. But normally it's like 180. I don't know, I don't know why it's so cheap that one time, but uh it's it's better than both of those. And I played it all the time when I was living down there in med school. I'd drive up there and it was 40 minutes from Milwaukee, so I'd play there and it was a great, great track.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. So much golf to be played.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, that's a must to get out there. So yeah, I mean, you could spend two weeks in Wisco playing golf courses here, and the beauty is every everything's within a couple hours, which is awesome. The problem is the season's so short. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Van life, baby. Van life.

SPEAKER_04

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Coming to Wisco. Well, uh, I'm gonna wrap this up. We want an hour and 15. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_07

I know 20 minutes fun when you're just bullshitting about golf courses and trips.

SPEAKER_00

Right? Oh, they're gonna have to make this own its own entity.

SPEAKER_03

Uh so keep this keep this in the uh keep this in the uh files for when uh you know we can't record or we're going a golf trip and just pick this one up. Yeah, dude, seriously.

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah, that's yeah, true, true, true, true.

SPEAKER_01

All right, Mike, thank you so much.

unknown

Uh let's see where we're at here.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, where you're at.

SPEAKER_07

Uh come on.

SPEAKER_03

Use in the chat.

SPEAKER_07

Ws W 47,200. Not bad. Sweet.

SPEAKER_01

Not a bad first day.

SPEAKER_07

Not a bad first day.

SPEAKER_01

What was last year?

SPEAKER_07

Uh 36 after the first day. So we're on the schedule.

SPEAKER_03

You're almost halfway to the goal, right? Wasn't the goal 100 grand?

SPEAKER_07

Yep. That's crazy. That's awesome. Now it definitely slows down like between now and you know the last 36 hours, but typically the last typically the last day you kind of double. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I need to get to 50k real quick.

SPEAKER_07

Uh Rodeo Dunes is still pretty cheap, boys.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna be keeping my eyes on it.

SPEAKER_07

I'll probably last one at right now. It's like 2200, I think. Yeah, that's a three-baller. What's the bonus, Mike? Uh, they have like some sort of a twilight thing that they do there. I don't know, it's in the fine print.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, go fuck a cow.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, it's night golf or get fucked by a cow.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, one of the point, or you're getting fucked by the cow.

SPEAKER_07

Uh now, if you guys don't get the Dismal River one this year, uh, we should get set up. You should come out with me sometime. Dismal River. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, it's not too bad for Denver. It's not too bad for Denver. Yeah, I mean, uh, the last time I was there with Brian, he drove from Denver. It was about three and a half or four hours or something. Yeah, it's not it's not a terrible drive.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna have to hook up traffic out there.

SPEAKER_03

We're gonna have to find a ballet hookup.

SPEAKER_02

You mean you do Dismal Sand Hills Bally Neal combo? Dude, that would be sand hills is a Pine Valley, Augusta, Cypress.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, just knock those out, too.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, sand hills. When you drive by it, it's uh because it's I mean, when you're driving back to North Platte from uh Dismal, you drive right by Sand Hills, and it's yeah, it's very clear that outsiders are not welcome. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta park here and take the helicopter in.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, what do we got there? Little sand hills action.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, Nebraska logo.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I guess I'm gonna run. Is that uh Cal Ripskins? Yeah, that was Cal Ripskins.

SPEAKER_02

Shout out Cal Ripskins.

SPEAKER_07

All right, guys, whoopy shit. Yeah, I gotta go to bed, fellas.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, shut her down.

SPEAKER_07

Driving a snowstorm in the morning.

SPEAKER_02

Good luck. Hey, stay safe, Mike.

SPEAKER_07

Hang on a second, appreciate you having me out.

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