Chasing Darkness: Episode 353 After Show

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The best golf stories usually happen between tee times. We start with an NFL‑boosted charity auction that lights up the leaderboard, then dive headfirst into the places and moments that make golf trips unforgettable: Dismal River’s off‑the‑grid calm, Gamble Sands’ magnetic remoteness, and that magic Sandhills light that turns a golden hour into two. Along the way, we break down why Nicklaus’ White and Doak’s Red at Dismal feel so different yet complementary, and why template holes—Redan, Biarritz, Road—still thrill when a muni squeezes them onto small, sloped greens.

If you’ve ever debated stay‑and‑play convenience versus a zigzag road mission, you’ll feel seen. We weigh the comfort of Bandon‑style hubs against the chaos of dirt roads, sketchy motels, and last‑minute reroutes that become core memories. Expect practical tips too: shoes that actually work for wet mornings, bug defenses that survive Midwest summers, simple filming rigs that stake into turf, and the low‑tech medical kit that can save a walking day. We even confess our gear gripes, like “wireless” chargers that still need wires, and share the easy content wins that help you remember the putt your buddy spite‑threw into a lake.

The stories get real: a lip‑out “ace” that stopped on the rim during a tournament, generational hole‑in‑ones on the same green, and post‑ace rituals from burger dogs to pub takeovers funded by the “dollar‑per‑yard” rule. We map compact, high‑yield routes in Wisconsin—Sand Valley, SentryWorld, Lawsonia, Erin Hills, Geneva National—and sketch a cross‑border dream from Banff’s cliffhanger par‑3s to Gamble Sands’ big‑sky drama. Hidden gems pop up too, including a Jerry Pate favorite in Alabama and thoughtful Carolinas picks that reward a short drive off property.

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Chapters

• 0:00 NFL Eyes On A Golf Auction
• 4:15 Bucket List Courses And Sequoia National
• 9:50 Ireland, Scotland, And Trip Timing
• 15:12 Stay‑And‑Play Vs Road Warrior Trips
• 17:05 Showers, Lodging, And The Journey Payoff
• 27:20 How to game plan a golf trip
• 40:30 Local Rankings: The Bull, The Bog, Fire Ridge
• 42:25 Wrapping Up And Auction Progress
• 45:34 Matt from Tradition made us feel like celebrities
• 56:24 Joe's almost hole in one
• 1:05:10 How golf trip aces SHOULD be handled!

Transcript

SPEAKER_07: 0:00

Published Matt?

SPEAKER_01: 0:01

Yeah. Everything.

SPEAKER_07: 0:02

Oh he'll probably edit it though.

SPEAKER_01: 0:04

I mean, I can edit it if you want me to take something out. So we're recording right now.

SPEAKER_07: 0:08

So okay. No, so Dan uh I won't say a lot of names, but this was public. Dan Orlovsky. He's like a unbelievable guy. Like now he's uh he's an A-list analyst on ESPN, right?

SPEAKER_08: 0:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 0:22

Um, you know, he could charge me thousands of dollars to promote something every single year. The guy I I he like invites me to take him, and he has for years now. So I do, you know, for big things, I don't pepper him all the time, but like today, you know, auction opening, I tagged him, immediately reposted it to his story, and now there are multiple NFL quarterbacks. I'm not gonna say who, but I can see who in our auction bidding against each other and bidding things up against each other. That is awesome. Yeah, they're not current NFL, they're like retired, but yeah, there are multiple NFL quarterbacks in our auction who are bidding against each other on like multiple items. It's really funny. That's a uh so rodeo dunes is um so Dismal River is again for the second year in a row, by far the highest number right now. The two days of unlimited golf at uh Dismal River is 4100 bucks. Rodeo Dunes is uh threesome plus dinner, and then there's some bonus golf involved, I guess. That's 2100.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27

700 a person is not bad.

SPEAKER_06: 1:30

There's so many awesome looking courses, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03: 1:33

There's yeah, it's a fucking what's one you you we should be watching.

SPEAKER_07: 1:41

Um well, I mean, you guys are so where where were you saying you're gonna go again this year? You're gonna go back up to Nebraska. Is it we're going to Nebraska? I mean, it's hard not to tell you to go to Dismal. Um Dismal is Dismal is unbelievable. It's my favorite place on earth. It's it's so good.

SPEAKER_01: 2:03

Wow, that's a bold statement.

SPEAKER_07: 2:05

And I've I mean I haven't played, I haven't played Bandon, um, but I've played a lot of golf, uh, a lot of places, and it did Dismal's just you're completely off the grid. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the only way I can say it. It sounds cliche, but uh the two courses there are are are different, but they like perfectly contrast each other. Um it's just it's it's cool, and I I I put a lot of value on feeling like you're getting away when you play golf, and there's no course I felt more away from everything else than Dismal River. I mean, you fly in a north. Uh so Doke built uh the red course and Nicholas built the white course.

SPEAKER_01: 2:50

Is it typical Nicholas?

SPEAKER_07: 2:52

Um yeah, I I would say so. Uh and I'm not a huge Nicholas fan, but for whatever reason, I just uh the white course there is it's awesome. It's it's really cool. Um yeah, it's just it's the landscape out there, though. I feel like anyone could have well, not anyone, but any good architect could have made a a world-class course there. It's just it's really, really neat. Yeah, and then the the red course on um at Dismal is it's different. It's you know, there's like no tea boxes, you kind of tee it up where you want, and there's teeing areas and it's there's blind shot. It's just a it's a different course, it's really fun. There's a lot of elevation, and so Dan, what can you either?

SPEAKER_03: 3:39

Um right now, which I'm trying to find the ones where there's they show the ones that I've liked already. I think I have to log in, actually. That's probably why. Um, but uh Sequoia National. Oh, how good does that look, dude? In like the fall, yeah, with the colors changing and oh dude, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 3:57

There's a couple videos I have on my phone of Sequoia National. I think I showed you Matt when we were out in Vegas together, or maybe I showed uh um uh uh I blanking on his name. His last name's Jackson. He does the tattoos, Steven Steven. I think I showed him a couple videos of uh Sequoia National they sent me, and it literally looks like those mountains turn on fire with those colors. It looks so cool.

SPEAKER_03: 4:22

So um, yeah, that one, and I know that course is like an hour, hour and a half from Old Tacoa, which is another course that I've wanted to play. Stowe golf club.

SPEAKER_07: 4:32

Um Stowe Golf Club, yeah, in Vermont. Where's Sequoia Nationals? Where again?

SPEAKER_03: 4:40

I think it's in North Carolina.

SPEAKER_07: 4:42

Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. That's far away. Never mind. Yeah, for some reason I thought it was up in Vermont.

SPEAKER_03: 4:48

Um, but yeah, I'm looking at I got that one liked. Oh, I'm gonna see what else I got in here. I got like quite a few of them.

SPEAKER_07: 4:54

Yeah, old Tacoa's there.

SPEAKER_01: 4:56

Um have you guys thought about listing it by states instead of just west or east of the Mississippi?

SPEAKER_07: 5:03

Yeah, I don't know if there's enough um categories. I don't know if you could do it. I don't I don't think there's enough categories to do that. You can search by state, you could just search like Nevada. Yeah, okay, yeah, because every every course listed has the state that it's that it's in. Um and you can search something like that. There's a decent number in uh North Carolina though. We've got Tobacco Road, we've got um uh what's the other one?

SPEAKER_03: 5:35

Um Royal New Kent.

SPEAKER_07: 5:38

Uh Royal New Kent's Virginia. Um the other one, Todd Hill, right? Oh, Todd, that's the one I was trying to think of. Yeah, thanks, Dan. Yeah, Todd Hill looks really cool. That's another strands.

SPEAKER_03: 5:49

Um yeah, I've got uh I've got Fox Hollow in Minnesota. I've got that one on here in my radar, uh, Caledonia True Blue, um, Lasonia links, both courses there. Yep, um Royal New Kent, uh Weekah, and Gamble Sands for sure. The gamble stands one. Yeah, yeah, that's at that's at 400 right now.

SPEAKER_07: 6:15

Yeah, the uh marketing director for Gamble Sands also does marketing at um Tobacco Road, which is wild because they're all the way across the country. But uh he's a really, really top-notch like golf course marketer. He used to work at Rams Hill. His name's Darren Bunch, he's an awesome dude. He works a lot with Brian Orr, they do a lot of uh drone stuff together.

SPEAKER_01: 6:41

Gamble's on like my number that's that's my number one want to go to.

SPEAKER_07: 6:46

Yeah, it looks the story behind gamble is really neat too. Apparently, they the original build of the course there was too close to the uh river, and like half of the course fell into the river, and they had to rebuild the course.

SPEAKER_01: 6:58

Oh, I did not know that. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_07: 7:03

Yeah, I I think they had like a real high year where the river was real high and everything fell in. Um, and so did a good portion of the course, and that was that was a long time ago, but you know, now they've got a ton of stuff on property, and it was funny. I posted uh I posted gamble a while ago. I I do it a lot, but um someone was like, Oh, gamble's annoying, it's terrible because you have to drive, like, and that's like the beauty of it because it's off the grid, and it's crazy that some people you know they don't like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 7:36

Yeah, they want to fly in to the airport and take a cab and be there in 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_07: 7:41

Yeah, like golf is moving away from that though.

SPEAKER_01: 7:44

That's part of the event, that's what makes the golf trip so much fun. It's what 100%. I mean, in our Nebraska trip, we found out a lot about Jeremy. Yes, they did that we did not know about, and it was it was car talk, it was car talk.

SPEAKER_07: 8:02

What does Jeremy use a CPAP at night or something? No, no CPAP. Oh, yeah, no, that's the best part. I mean, it's again cliche to say, but a lot of it's the journey of like getting to the course. It's it's a trip, that's why it's called a golf trip, not just a round, it's just it's a ton of fun with your friends. You're going there, you're driving there, you're you're flying there, you've got you know, stories about gas stations you stopped at, or you know, freaky Airbnbs you stayed at, or it's just it's it's all part of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 8:39

That's why it's so fun.

SPEAKER_06: 8:44

That it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01: 8:45

No doesn't like bugs. Oh no, is like running scared, like whoever the the gnats got to him in the gats, uh mosquitoes.

SPEAKER_07: 9:02

Oh, dude, oh yeah, dude. The Midwest has some large mosquitoes. Oh, I remember him and the bees.

SPEAKER_01: 9:07

I remember anything that buzzes by him, he loses his shit. It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_07: 9:12

Yeah, that's you guys have bugs out there though, don't you? Is it too dry?

SPEAKER_06: 9:16

Not uh we don't have a lot of mosquitoes, really.

SPEAKER_07: 9:23

Midwest is real humid, so like during the summer, we get it's thick. The mosquitoes are thick, the gnats are thick. Um, by the river where I'm at, it's it's bad.

SPEAKER_01: 9:34

It's real bad. He had to get Benadryl at the airport because his legs was so swollen. We thought we seriously have to go to the hospital.

SPEAKER_07: 9:42

That's bad. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01: 9:46

The whole trip.

SPEAKER_03: 9:49

Joe getting absolutely annihilated and swollen.

SPEAKER_07: 9:52

Did he use bug spray of air? Didn't he use bug spray? He did the strong stuff with deet and everything. Yeah, 60 deed or 80 deep. Yeah, it didn't help.

SPEAKER_01: 10:03

I didn't even use bug spray.

SPEAKER_07: 10:08

So in May, we will be bringing DEET for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah, you need to. Yeah, the the spring and the fall are bad, real bad. That's funny. Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 10:17

Yeah, the only place that they annoyed me at was the that Bermuda Dunes or what was it? Dakota Dunes.

SPEAKER_06: 10:24

Oh, Dakota Dunes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 10:26

Yeah, because it was on the river and and it was thick and lush there, it wasn't like spread out. It was very marshy.

SPEAKER_07: 10:34

Yeah, so that's that's how the Midwest is. If you're by a land of or a body of water, it's it's game over. That's where the mosquitoes have their like breeding nests or whatever the hell they call them. Um and midges midges in Michigan.

SPEAKER_06: 10:47

Oh, dude, midges are brutal. Oh, yeah. What are what are midges? Are they they don't um no?

SPEAKER_03: 10:56

They're like these little pesky asses, you know. He's played in the invitation, they're like mosquitoes, but they don't like suck your blood. They're like weird, like these little weird little black boxes.

SPEAKER_07: 11:05

Yeah, they they crawl on your skin, they're actually like parasitic, and they they make these little burrows in your skin, and they infect animals, they can actually chew through animal skin for people. They can't, so they they they're just terribly itchy.

SPEAKER_03: 11:19

Yeah, we recovered thousands of them.

SPEAKER_07: 11:22

Yeah, thank you for four holes.

SPEAKER_03: 11:24

The first four holes at Bay Harbor.

SPEAKER_07: 11:26

Oh, geez, geez. Oh, you guys play Bay Harbor.

SPEAKER_03: 11:29

That's yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 11:30

There's a Boin, there's a Boeing package in the auction that does not include Bay Harbor, but everything else. I've heard the Arthur Hills course at uh Bay Harbor is real good.

SPEAKER_03: 11:39

The Arthur Hills course was my favorite. I liked it better than I like Bay Harbor.

SPEAKER_07: 11:43

Really? That's more in the woods, right?

SPEAKER_03: 11:46

Yeah, the Arthur Hills course was fucking sick.

SPEAKER_07: 11:49

Yeah, I loved it. Actually, that my home country club in lacrosse here is Arthur Hills design.

SPEAKER_06: 11:55

What's the Donald Ross course up there? Isn't there one in Boeing? Or is it more north? There's a Donald Ross at French Lick, but that's not where you're thinking. There is there is a I swear there's a Donald Ross in Michigan. It might be north. Where's treetops at? Is it more north?

SPEAKER_03: 12:14

Treetops is kind of north. It's a little east, I think, of Boeing, southeast of Boeing, I think. Um but yeah, Treetops is nice, but I don't know if there's a there's one at Tree Tops.

SPEAKER_05: 12:27

I forget.

SPEAKER_07: 12:28

Where's Joe? Oh no, there's a there's a Donald Ross Memorial course at Boyne Golf.

SPEAKER_06: 12:32

That's right, that's what it was. There you go.

SPEAKER_03: 12:35

I might have played it and just forgot.

SPEAKER_01: 12:40

Uh I have not yet created all the golf course.

SPEAKER_03: 12:45

Early uh season, opening opening in May. Matt wasn't Oconey or uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 12:57

No, that's Reese Jones.

SPEAKER_03: 12:58

Oh, Reese Jones, that's right.

SPEAKER_01: 13:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 13:01

So apparently it's a Donald Ross replica course. Uh oh, it's not an actual so it's well, no, no, so it's bear's best of Michigan. Exactly. Yeah, it says the Donald Ross Memorial is in essence a greatest hits compilation, selecting from some of the designer's best known holes from the most renowned courses in his portfolio to create an unforgettable golf course. So I think someone just what do you think about those types of courses? I haven't played I haven't played a lot of replica courses. I played there's actually one about an hour east of me, um, called Northern Bay, and it's a replica course of a lot of um the uh British open holes.

SPEAKER_01: 13:47

Royal links, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 13:49

Like Royal Links. I I actually played Royal Links before they shut it down. So much. I think it's fun. I mean, yeah, it it seems ticky-tacky to to say, like, oh, it wasn't perfectly replicated. It's it's an idea, it's a general idea, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 14:05

Like Links, a replica links course, that's okay because it's the same style of golf throughout. What I can't stand about what bears best was is you had a scatter brain of different hole profiles that didn't coincide with each other.

SPEAKER_07: 14:21

Yeah, the course doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_01: 14:23

No, it doesn't make sense at all.

SPEAKER_07: 14:24

Yeah, remaking Nicholas's best holes is like eh. But yeah, I mean if you're remaking the best links holes on the British Open, it seems it would seem to flow better.

SPEAKER_01: 14:35

Yeah. Um, yeah. We were saying that we want to see uh uh like a template course where there's a template hole on each hole is a template hole. Yeah, you got the the B Ritz and you got the Rod Rodan and that would be uh that would be cool. Well you kind of get that at old Mac a little bit.

SPEAKER_03: 14:56

Yeah, a little bit. Charleston Muni was crazy.

SPEAKER_07: 15:01

There's some really cool there's some really cool things on Instagram about Charleston Muni.

SPEAKER_03: 15:05

Yeah, Charleston Muni was was a lot of fun, and um that was crazy to play some of those template holes. Like there was a there was some that were just like holy shit, that's very exaggerated. Because the greens there at Muni aren't very big. Um, so to have a Redan or anything like that with a huge slope on a small green, it was tough. It was tough. And um, but it was it's fun because you don't really see a whole lot of golf like that. You see most of that stuff back east. Yeah, everybody's got their little versions and variations of it, but a true template hole, like a Seth Rayner template, like it was it was crazy, it was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_07: 15:50

Have you guys gone overseas at all? Have you guys gone to Ireland or no? Not for God. That it looks so enticing, doesn't it? Doesn't it like to go play some courses that are hundreds of years old? How enticing is that? It just looks so cool.

SPEAKER_01: 16:07

I want to go on that 27 trip with you guys so bad, but Emma's gonna be graduating college that and Brooklyn's gonna be graduating high school, like when you guys are planning on going. It's like I can't just bail. Yeah, that's tough.

SPEAKER_03: 16:22

For the thing about it though, Matty, is Ireland and Scotland aren't going anywhere. Exactly.

SPEAKER_07: 16:27

Yeah, those they've been there for hundreds of years, they'll they'll still be there. It can always go back, brother.

SPEAKER_01: 16:32

And it can always throw the van on a ferry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 16:38

Yeah, I had a I had a whole itinerary for an Ireland trip, like essentially booked right after I graduated residency, and it was 2020. Oh COVID just shit all over. Oh, that's terrible. Yep. Yeah, I had this like touring company that wanted to take me out there and do this big thing, and I was basically booked, and then COVID happened, and it just shut everything down.

SPEAKER_01: 17:05

Yeah, I would like to go to Cabo just to because there's some cool courses down there, yeah, and Danzante Bay looks cool, but other than that, I've got no desire to go to anywhere down in Mexico area. Um, like the seems like a lot of work for those courses, yeah, yeah. Because it's one course here, one course there, you know, like it's it's nowhere near Maya Coba is awesome.

SPEAKER_06: 17:31

Yeah, that's that's that was a fun one because it's I mean, it's it's you you can walk outside your little cabin hotel and you're on the first T. It's like right around the whole resort. You're you never really leave the property, and you get ocean views, and then you get the cave, and then you get the you know, some of the kind of boring holes, but I like that internationally.

SPEAKER_01: 17:53

Definitely want to go up to Canada to the Banff area, yeah. Silver tip and Banff National.

SPEAKER_07: 17:59

You guys follow uh the lefty, um Matt the Lefty Mac Bocher, Mac Bocher. We were talking about animals before. He sees bears like every time he plays golf. But those courses that that's real big mountain golf, like that. Wasn't there one on the auction? Uh yeah, yeah, Great Wolf. Great Wolf. Yeah, that one looks incredible. Yep, sir. They've got uh they've got a famous part three called Cliffhanger that is I think it's yeah, from the tips, it's like 210 and it's like 195 yards of carry, and it's just like this island green, which is it's a pseudo-island, but it's just yeah, it's basically an island green that is 200 yards of cliff down. It looks so freaking cool. Yeah, and you and you're playing at 6,000 feet of elevation.

SPEAKER_01: 18:46

So when I go to Canada Boys, eh? Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_07: 18:49

There in Banff, there's seven courses that are world-class mountain golf courses.

SPEAKER_01: 18:54

Dude, so we'll fly into Calgary, hit up a couple courses in Banff, then drive down into Spokane, and then head over to Gamble.

SPEAKER_07: 19:04

You can do that. He's already got the yeah, he's already got the itinerary down.

SPEAKER_00: 19:11

Oh, that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_07: 19:13

I think you're probably not gonna be able to see it very well.

SPEAKER_01: 19:16

If you get close enough, it will. I don't know, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 19:20

That's it right there.

SPEAKER_01: 19:20

Yeah, yeah. That was insane. Yeah, that's the green.

SPEAKER_06: 19:27

That's like Wolf Creek in the pine trees. Yeah, wow. That's yep.

SPEAKER_08: 19:34

Pretty beautiful.

SPEAKER_02: 19:36

What's up? It's a wild night around these parts, guys.

SPEAKER_07: 19:43

It's a wild night around these parts. Dan, we're really bummed that we're missing all that, aren't we? I think we need a live cam.

SPEAKER_06: 19:52

That's why we call him Uncle Dan in my house.

SPEAKER_07: 19:55

Uh, everyone calls me Uncle Mike at work, just in case. I got a couple of I got a couple of work buddies that have a bunch of little kids, and they all call me Uncle Mike. It's fun.

SPEAKER_01: 20:03

Yeah, I don't miss it at all.

SPEAKER_07: 20:07

Matt, are you on Teen Estra yet or no?

SPEAKER_01: 20:09

No, I got uh my my youngest is a junior, she's halfway through her junior year, so we got this time. What do you want to do? Uh she wants to go into marketing. Uh, she wants she really wants to go to Penn. She wants to go to the the Penn's grade school marketing school there. Um, but her she said this two years ago and it is held up. Her goal is to get accepted to all the Ivy League schools and turn them down.

SPEAKER_07: 20:38

Jeez. Wow.

SPEAKER_01: 20:39

Wow.

SPEAKER_07: 20:40

She's a little pretentious, but I hope that's gonna make her feel really good because applying to Ivy League schools isn't cheap.

SPEAKER_01: 20:45

Yeah, uh she's she's smart as a whip, she's number two in her class. The number one class is her one of her closest friends.

SPEAKER_07: 20:53

Your other daughter's out in New York, right?

SPEAKER_01: 20:55

Yeah, she's yeah, she's going to school out there. She's living in Harlem, which we're going next month to go visit. So nice, going back to New York, nice and cold. Oh, yeah. My wife's like, Don't you think it'd be fun to go to New York during the Christmas season? And I went, no, not really.

SPEAKER_06: 21:14

Last time I was there in the winter, we were stuck on the runway for four and a half hours while they de-iced and plowed the the runway. Yeah, cold weather in the winter sucks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 21:26

Oh, well, the the apartment my daughter lives in with her roommate is about 900 square feet.

SPEAKER_07: 21:33

Oh, yeah. Pretty big.

SPEAKER_01: 21:36

That's huge. No, that's that's three bedrooms, 900 square feet. That's a living room, a bathroom, and two bedrooms. And that's crazy. My wife's like, let's we'll just stay with her. I went.

SPEAKER_07: 21:51

Oh, oh, in that context, it's not very big.

SPEAKER_01: 21:54

I go, Are you are you crazy? I said, There's there's not enough room for three people, and you want to bring three more air mattress. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 22:06

Yeah, so bunk beds and shit.

SPEAKER_01: 22:08

But there's a bomb ass pizza shop two blocks up the street.

SPEAKER_07: 22:13

Oh, dude, there's probably seven of them.

SPEAKER_01: 22:15

Oh no, we looked all around when I went there because I went to help her move into it. And uh yeah, oh dude's so good.

SPEAKER_06: 22:23

You know what would be a sick golf trip is to stay in New York, but then you're playing like Sleepy Hollow and Wingfoot and go over to Long Island, Long Island, Long Island with Fishers.

SPEAKER_01: 22:35

You imagine like riding clubs on a golf trip. I see people doing it.

SPEAKER_07: 22:40

That'd be a flex. That would be that would be that would be awesome.

SPEAKER_01: 22:45

Most people just Uber.

SPEAKER_06: 22:47

Yeah, so much out there. That would be an interesting one.

SPEAKER_01: 22:52

So much out there. We're going in December, so no golf.

SPEAKER_06: 22:57

You can go to the Chelsea chair, uh the Chelsea PRC beard, which is crazy expensive. Yeah, I went there.

SPEAKER_01: 23:04

And dude, they are claustrophobic as hell.

SPEAKER_06: 23:08

There's divots in the turf.

SPEAKER_01: 23:12

It's old Las Vegas Golf Center. Yeah, yeah. Or or desert pines. Check this out. So I got I got the I got the rock form case, right? And really happy with it, really like it. It sticks on the on the golf cart now. So tested that out yesterday. But I have one of those uh little slant things that you set it down to that's wireless charging, right? And so at night it's like my my clock, right? What's going on here? The rock form case doesn't connect to it. And I'm like, son of a bitch. So I was looking, I'm like, I just I got the stand, I just need something to connect to it. So rock form sells this, right? Oh, yeah, and it's touted, it's touted as a wireless charger, right? Oh wireless charger, right? The piece to charge wireless thing. This is wireless, but you gotta plug it in.

SPEAKER_02: 24:18

Oh, so it doesn't hold the charge.

SPEAKER_07: 24:21

No, oh so that's that's wildly deceiving from a wireless wireless charger.

SPEAKER_01: 24:29

Yeah, yeah, this is not wireless.

SPEAKER_06: 24:30

No, I mean that would be cool if you could charge that little disc and then throw it on the back.

SPEAKER_01: 24:34

Take it with you, yeah. Yeah, but I mean it's really nice because it's got it's got a little kickstand, so you can pop it up and then it it comes out, so you can you know hang it over your screen if you want. But I'm like, this is not wireless. I can I can take this off and plug it into my phone.

SPEAKER_07: 24:51

What is the based on the description? You would assume that taking that cord out, it would continue to charge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean it's heavy too.

SPEAKER_01: 25:00

Very deceptive, but it's like charge your phone wireless plug it into your phone, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 25:06

Or I could just do this and plug it like this.

SPEAKER_01: 25:09

Oh so weird. I'm like, these bastards got me, but it's it's something that works. Oh yeah, I got a question. Oh, okay. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_06: 25:22

So back to the golf trip stuff. So now that I've been on a trip where we stayed at the resort at Bandon, and then a trip where we drove all over Creation in Nebraska. What is your preferred style of golf trip? Do you like going and staying, or do you like adventuring and zigzagging all over?

SPEAKER_01: 25:41

Hell of an eye roll from Joe. That was a mix.

SPEAKER_06: 25:44

I like a mix.

SPEAKER_02: 25:45

I like a mix.

SPEAKER_06: 25:46

Yeah, I think it's good to do both. I prefer the second, though. I prefer the like scrambling from gas stations and hotels to get people, it's fun.

SPEAKER_07: 25:56

I think it depends on the number of people you're with, too.

SPEAKER_06: 25:58

Um I think one car, it's good.

SPEAKER_07: 26:01

Yes, but if you have two groups, you are just 100%. Yeah, yep. Yeah, yeah. Uh we've got a group that um it's eight guys that it's kind of a group of guys from work that are um and then also from kind of our area that we know. Um, but you know, managing more than four people if you're driving around and stuff is a lot. Uh typically that a group that size, it's much easier to just stay and play where you're at.

SPEAKER_08: 26:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 26:31

But if you've got a couple of your, you know, a few of your really good friends and you're going as a foursome like you guys did, like I think a road trip like that is a blast.

SPEAKER_02: 26:39

It was awesome. It was a sh it was a lot though.

SPEAKER_01: 26:43

Like, yeah, the landman one was it was a lot because it was a different hotel every night.

SPEAKER_07: 26:51

So you're unloading. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 26:55

But I I love what we did on the the Reynolds trip because it was like three days at a nice resort, and then one day on the road, one day on the road, and then you know, bounce.

SPEAKER_02: 27:07

See, that was the perfect mix. Yeah, that was Georgia trip is still one of my favorites, still one of my favorite golf trips.

SPEAKER_07: 27:13

That's so uh I just went down to uh Georgia with my buddy Matt, who's also uh one of my coworkers, and we did uh we did the four Hadley Classic tournament in Atlanta, played around down there, stayed a couple nights in a hotel, and then drove up to Macklemore, were there for a few nights and played there for three days, and then we were done. But like that's a that's a good, you know, in my opinion. Um, you know, you get settled in somewhere for a couple nights, play around there, you know, play a few rounds, and then yeah, to Joe's point, going every night switching hotels is that's a lot. We also drove like 1200 miles.

SPEAKER_01: 27:58

We were across the entire state. We were in Sioux Cig, and then we were in, you know, at Landman, but then we had you know five-hour drive to Tatonka, two and a half hour drive to Prairie Jones, and I mean staying there a ride to the airport, and then a five-hour ride to the airport. So it was wild, it was a stretch.

SPEAKER_02: 28:17

I wouldn't change it for anything though.

SPEAKER_07: 28:19

No, but if you ignore the annoyance of kind of the lodging and stuff, if you ask me, like, you know, if you're gonna go to the Pinehurst area, would I rather stay on Pinehurst Resort and play the courses there because it's just a nice place to stay all one spot, or would I drive around and play all the really awesome courses all over the place? I would rather do that, yeah. Yeah, you know, like you you talk about, you know, there's a couple courses on on Pinehurst property, obviously, I would want to play, but there are some very good courses off of property that are worth driving around for. Yeah, you know, if you want to if you want to optimize your golf experience, it's probably worth driving around.

SPEAKER_02: 29:02

I think that's one of those things, like there's benefits to both, and there's like me, like me and Dan when we went out there and did band and um and didn't stay on resort, like there's benefits to both, you know, and it kind of depends on what type of person you are. If you like, if you like the comfort, you know, like like Cliff, who we went to uh Landman with and Prairie Club, and you know, he's he is a full go getter for golf courses and wants to check them all off and he wants the service, and not saying he's down to get down and rugged, but like you know, I'm an I'm an adventurer and I love stopping at the local grocery stores to see if they got a new cereal that I haven't seen at my local grocery shop, you know what I mean? So it's like it's one of those things, and also like if I didn't stay on the resort at Mandan, I would never experience that shower head, and it's one of the greatest shower heads I've ever laid my head down before, you know. But some good practice. Dude, yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 30:02

It just it just pisses excellence all over you, dude.

SPEAKER_07: 30:05

Dismal Dismal River. I raved the entire trip about the the water pressure in those showers. They were like those big, like walk-in steamers that like a door that you closed, and then the whole thing just steams up.

SPEAKER_01: 30:17

Oh the shower feels like it's hugging you.

SPEAKER_07: 30:21

It's like an exfoliating thing, right? You feel like you're getting an exfoliation treatment while you're in the shower.

SPEAKER_02: 30:26

It's awesome. After a day of walking and playing golf all day, and it just blows the sweat off. You know, full belly and meatloaf, and like it just hits so differently, you know what I mean? And it's but I think you gotta experience both, you know. If if it's somewhere that you really truly love and enjoyed your experience, I think it there's benefits to experiencing the other side and and playing it as a local, if you will. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01: 30:52

What was the town that we stayed that best western in? Um, it was Valentine. Oh no, oh Valentine. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 31:02

That hotel was sketch.

SPEAKER_01: 31:03

Oh, dude, not too many people are like, Hey, remember the best western in Valentine?

SPEAKER_07: 31:08

I mean, that's where uh Arbor Lynx is. That's where one of the dorming properties is Valentine, Nebraska. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02: 31:15

Yeah, we were right there.

SPEAKER_06: 31:17

Yeah, that hotel had a funk, dude. Oh the smell, man. I feel like old swimming pool, dude. It was bad. Probably not the best showers there.

SPEAKER_03: 31:28

Old swimming pool, dude.

SPEAKER_02: 31:30

It worked fine, but there was a dude gonna pop in the window like in the middle of night and just ask you where your Febreze was. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01: 31:38

I took a picture of the hallway, and I'm like, this is straight horror movie.

SPEAKER_02: 31:43

Lights are flickering.

SPEAKER_06: 31:44

That's looking for the picture.

SPEAKER_02: 31:46

Yeah, and and it was uh we drove like 45 minutes on a dirt road, in you know, and we saw a house every 30 minutes, maybe uh or 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_07: 31:58

Yes, it was out like the hills have eyes, you're waiting for your tires to blow out from the rumble stuff.

SPEAKER_06: 32:03

That's keepers creepers is following us in the back in the rear view mirror.

SPEAKER_01: 32:06

You know, we had to turn down a dirt road and we're driving. There's like there's a house out here, and you can just like they're on the porch going, got another one.

SPEAKER_07: 32:14

Yep, it's the same house over and over for an hour. Those golfers boys taste real good.

SPEAKER_02: 32:20

That's one of those things, though. Like, I'll I'll remember that forever. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, that's what makes those trips incredible. It's it's not necessarily the the destination, it's the journey, you know. Like, I'll remember that trip with with these guys forever.

SPEAKER_06: 32:35

I just remember like when we were driving, it was it was late, it was like 10. And we're driving, and it's just dirt, and it's just silent in the car. We're all like a little were a little bit worried, so no one's talking.

SPEAKER_07: 32:48

Well, because you're in an area where like you're not sure the GPS is even working, you know. It's got the it's got the route up, but you're not sure.

SPEAKER_01: 32:55

Yeah, yeah, that's that that that was the hotel.

SPEAKER_07: 32:58

Oh god, that's like the hotel from the shining. Yeah, I was like, it looked like a mental hospital.

SPEAKER_01: 33:04

Oh god, yeah, it was it was not good.

SPEAKER_02: 33:09

Also, before we got to that best western, uh payment failed, or the homie from whatnot was like, Hey, be careful checking in this close to the res.

SPEAKER_07: 33:19

And I was like, That what like we're checking close into a reservation, and uh it's no, he meant the reservation the eight or exactly.

SPEAKER_02: 33:28

Yeah, and there was there, it was it was a little creepy out there.

SPEAKER_01: 33:32

This was us in the middle of absolutely nowhere. That's a cool picture.

SPEAKER_02: 33:36

Nowhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 33:38

It's fun though, it was very one thing that I did enjoy was the sunsets last forever. Oh no, there's no mountains like we have the sun drops behind the mountain, you know, but the sunsets there just lasted forever.

SPEAKER_07: 33:50

Golden hour in the sand hills in Nebraska, it lasts for two hours. Yeah, that's why those pictures are so cool.

SPEAKER_01: 33:57

Yeah, this was like it took forever for that to go away. I mean, it was just amazing.

SPEAKER_07: 34:02

When we were with Brian at uh Dismal River a couple of years ago, when it was five o'clock, it was it was like he was a kid in a candy store. He was he was he was running around with his drone, like we couldn't even keep up with him. It was unbelievable. Golden hour light special. Oh, yeah, yeah. For the drone photographers, that's uh that's the money shot. He's so he's so good. Yeah, he's so good.

SPEAKER_01: 34:30

This was on the golf course, yeah, baby.

SPEAKER_06: 34:34

What is that called again, Dan? Cannabis, yeah. That specific strain. Oh, you called the strain. Dan's a professional. What did I call it? Dutch weed or something, or yeah, ditch weed. Oh, ditch weed, ditch weed, yeah. It's shit weed, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 34:50

Yeah, it was it was everywhere at Tatanka.

SPEAKER_07: 34:53

I've I'm helping Jeremy look for a ball, and I'm like kind of smelled like it just grows wild there, wild. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. That's crazy. That's nuts. Yeah, it probably isn't very good, but probably probably could do the trick.

SPEAKER_01: 35:10

No, I mean it gets the Indian's eye, probably.

SPEAKER_07: 35:12

What do they call the uh little seed things? They call them beaner. Oh, that's I mean, that's what they call them in the Midwest, those little seeds that you gotta pull out. Yeah, a lot of those in there. There'd be no seeds, no seeds, Jeremy. You know what I was gonna say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's what they call them in the Midwest. Like, yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_06: 35:31

Yeah, those are something else here, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 35:35

All right, anything else you want to talk about, boys? I think it'll be cool. We'll see how it goes.

SPEAKER_07: 35:41

Yeah, yeah. How about uh Joe with the subtle flex with the Olympic club hat coming in?

SPEAKER_01: 35:44

Oh, he's gotta change his hands.

SPEAKER_07: 35:45

I've never played it, I've never played it. I bought this.

SPEAKER_01: 35:47

Oh, wasn't there a discussion about this? You can't be wearing that hat.

SPEAKER_02: 35:52

I think discussion about this if it's like free like 93. I think oh you can caveat.

SPEAKER_06: 36:00

Speaking of Olympic Club, when we played LBCC with Dan's buddy Kyle, they were talking about the course record for burger dogs being consumed during a round. And I guess it's what was it, seven? Seven.

SPEAKER_07: 36:12

Oh my god, burger dogs, those sound delicious. And that sounds really easy to beat.

SPEAKER_01: 36:17

Yeah, it's a burger that's in a hot dog bun.

SPEAKER_06: 36:20

It sounds perfect. Yeah, I love that. So he's gonna try to break it next time he's there.

SPEAKER_03: 36:26

Kyle's going there soon, and uh he said he's gonna do eight. Wow, they do look so good, those burger dogs.

SPEAKER_01: 36:34

Oh, I mashed up that video, I'm gonna post it tomorrow. Um of of Dan and his uh dude, that was so funny. You gotta see this mic, it's funny. Oh, you know, I may be able to do it this way.

SPEAKER_03: 36:49

Oh, from L Vcc.

SPEAKER_02: 36:51

Yeah, let me see if I just know that's that Purcell flag, dude. Like Mike, I loved I love the Purcell logo so much. I just noticed that.

SPEAKER_07: 37:00

Let's see if can you name any of the other flags there? Matt Matt couldn't.

SPEAKER_01: 37:04

Oh, I got I got one of them. Yeah, I got them all.

SPEAKER_07: 37:07

Oh, you did get the bottom, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 37:09

That's Dismal Leto, uh Purcell, and then it looks like stream song, but you're blocking it a bit.

SPEAKER_07: 37:15

Yep, you got it all. Yeah. Ding ding ding ding ding. And then I think I have a flag from you, Joe, somewhere. Uh I don't know where it is, but it's uh uh St. Andrews flag.

SPEAKER_02: 37:32

No, you sent that to me. I have it right here. Oh, I sent it to you. You bought it from tradition and you sent it. You sent it to me. It's right here.

SPEAKER_07: 37:39

I think I sent you a um it's right here. Oh, yeah, there it is. Yeah. All right. Here it is.

SPEAKER_02: 37:46

I popped in and I was like, what's happening?

SPEAKER_03: 37:49

Mike, where's this? Mike, where's this one from?

SPEAKER_07: 37:52

Oh god, you're quizzing me now. Uh move it up. Is that landman? No, I don't I don't know. Stream song.

SPEAKER_01: 38:03

Stream song.

SPEAKER_07: 38:04

Oh, is that black? Is that black?

SPEAKER_03: 38:06

It's signed by Gil Hans.

SPEAKER_07: 38:07

That's black, right?

SPEAKER_03: 38:09

That's cool.

SPEAKER_07: 38:10

Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, they kind of over uh over photographed that windmill on black. That's like the only hole I ever see of it. Yeah, this one. It's a lot cooler course than that.

SPEAKER_02: 38:22

Course flown. Mike, come on, course that is awesome. That's number one. Yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_07: 38:31

It's preserve. Is that preserve 13? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 38:36

Shout out to homie I know out there keeping the greens tight for us.

SPEAKER_01: 38:40

It's the flag show. All right, watch this video. Watch this. So Dan made a birdie and his buddy threw it in the water.

SPEAKER_04: 38:52

This was to win the match. Me and Dan were playing the the two. So you guys are playing them.

SPEAKER_03: 38:57

Oh, great butt, Dan.

SPEAKER_02: 38:59

Yeah, that's a real good butt.

SPEAKER_03: 39:02

And then there's my homie. He grabs a ball out of the hole, throws it in the lake. I'm fucking laughing.

SPEAKER_02: 39:07

And then whoop whoop. But what you don't what you don't hear is the audio either, Mike. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 39:19

Oh, that's fantastic. Wait, Dan, was that you that threw it in the or uh Jeremy, was that you that threw it in the water?

SPEAKER_06: 39:26

No, that was his buddy Kyle.

SPEAKER_07: 39:27

That was my buddy Kyle. Were you playing against him or was he your partner?

SPEAKER_03: 39:32

Oh me and Jeremy were partners against against Kyle and his buddy.

SPEAKER_06: 39:36

And neither of us have played good all day.

SPEAKER_07: 39:38

You drain the putt to beat him, and then he throws it in the water. That's tough. That's that's not a great loser.

SPEAKER_03: 39:43

The only two birdies I made all day were one and eighteen. I made that putt on 18 and then I chipped in from like 30 yards on one.

SPEAKER_07: 39:49

Okay, one's not an easy hole. And he gets butthurt and throws your ball in the water.

SPEAKER_03: 39:53

Like I've known this guy.

SPEAKER_07: 39:56

Oh, he's like your brother. Okay, yeah. My butt, my brother would do that to me, so I'd yeah, yeah. I've known this kid since he was like nine.

SPEAKER_03: 40:02

Oh, okay. Like 36 or 37 now. So yeah, it's totally fine. He was acting like a little bit of a bitch.

SPEAKER_07: 40:10

That was like a 20-footer, though, wasn't it? That looked like a pretty decent long putt.

SPEAKER_02: 40:13

That's a nasty putt, my dad. That was uh that was a long putt.

SPEAKER_03: 40:17

Straight downhill.

SPEAKER_02: 40:18

Those are super pure right now.

SPEAKER_03: 40:21

But you know where it didn't matter. Where was that? Because that was that lovely. Oh, okay. It didn't matter anyway, because Jeremy had a five or six footer for Birdie and he drained his too.

SPEAKER_02: 40:30

So yeah, unfortunately, but yeah, that was Dan made his nasty boy's no pricey boys. Great pot.

SPEAKER_03: 40:38

Jeremy hit a great shot in there. He had like 70 yards with a front pin with like 12 feet of green to work with short of the pin. And from that short, he hits it to like six, seven feet.

SPEAKER_06: 40:52

So I have that on video.

SPEAKER_03: 40:54

Yeah, Jeremy actually hit played that hole a lot better than I did, but I just happened to make the longer buttons.

SPEAKER_01: 40:59

I feel like you guys have a lot of video clips you could clip up and yeah, trying to well, I I have to beg these fools to get me content.

SPEAKER_06: 41:08

Dan and I aren't very good at recording good anymore.

SPEAKER_01: 41:10

I used to be pretty and Dan has like two megabytes of data of photos on his on his phone.

SPEAKER_03: 41:16

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't I I stream music during golf, I don't uh take videos or anything like that. I'm terrible about social media.

SPEAKER_01: 41:26

So I I get excited when they send me stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00: 41:28

I'm like, yes, I got something to post.

SPEAKER_06: 41:30

I'll send you, I'll send you some more tonight.

SPEAKER_07: 41:32

Oh yeah, I just got this like uh it's like a stick and it's got a magnet that you don't even need an attachment for, it just goes right to the back of your phone.

SPEAKER_08: 41:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_07: 41:41

Um, and it's got a stake on the bottom. You literally just put it in the ground, yeah, and it and it extends out. It's super easy to use. I brought it to Dismal and I've been using it for a while. It's and it was only like yeah, it's like the it's a version of that range thing. Um yeah, the I range, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01: 41:58

Joe has one that's got a javelin on the end of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 42:02

That's that's essentially what mine is, it's got a big stake on the end of it. Lamar Latrell.

SPEAKER_01: 42:06

No, Joe's Joe's like has the ending javelin on it, it's massive.

SPEAKER_07: 42:11

It's just it's a lot easier than using a like a uh tripod because you just but it works really well and it's easy to use. It was like$30 on Amazon.

SPEAKER_02: 42:23

I need to get one of those eye ranges.

SPEAKER_07: 42:25

I really do.

SPEAKER_00: 42:26

Yeah, he brought it out. I was like, oh, did you get that on Oak Island? Like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_07: 42:32

Oh, what's the new hat, Joe? What is that?

SPEAKER_02: 42:34

Oh, another hat this is wild horse, wild horse, wild horse, vintage wild horse.

SPEAKER_01: 42:39

This is how many hats are you wearing to this?

SPEAKER_02: 42:41

This is where I started. Uh this is where I started playing golf for the most part. That's a top golf hat.

SPEAKER_07: 42:48

This is what Whatnot did to me. Look at that range, all those hats, bro.

SPEAKER_05: 42:53

Oh, I see. The is that a great Big Bertha?

SPEAKER_07: 42:56

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, that was my favorite driver. That's the two bags my dad gave me. It's all like old Big Bertha's and persimmons, and yeah, I got a titleist uh D in there. What was that? The BGC hat. Did I see a BGC? So that's a Puma hat. Yeah, yeah, it just says BGC. I have no idea why, but actually, that was on your show, Joe. Well, I'm pretty sure it was on your show, or no, it was on a different show that you tagged me. You're like, look at this hat. Oh, yeah, that's what it was. I don't remember whose show it was, but it was someone's show, and you're like, dude, look at this hat, it says BGC, and I paid too much for it. Yeah, I probably spent like 50 bucks on it. I was not gonna lose that hat. Yeah, it doesn't even fit, it doesn't even fit my giant melon.

SPEAKER_02: 43:46

I wear like a seven and three-quarters hat ten dollars on this. That's what I wear.

SPEAKER_07: 43:50

Yeah, that's what I wear seven and three-quarters. Dude, the XL like stretchy fit hats still leave a line on my head. It's bad.

SPEAKER_01: 43:58

Yeah, that's that's what this is.

SPEAKER_07: 44:00

I got the I will say, uh, Dan, your brother's hats are nice. I like those. Yeah, Matt. Yeah, Matt, the traditional hats. He he is is he your he's your brother, right?

SPEAKER_03: 44:13

No, no, no, not my real brother. He's just brother in life. Yeah, I've just got it. Another another brother, another brother, all right. Mother from another mother, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 44:22

No, he's a good dude. I like him a lot. Yeah, that's what it did. Yeah, traditions. I'll be honest, I was sad he didn't win that match against that other dude.

SPEAKER_03: 44:29

Yeah, maybe yeah, but Maddie's don't Maddie he talks a lot of shit, but uh yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 44:35

Well, in a match like that, leading up to that to promote it, you kind of have to.

SPEAKER_03: 44:39

Yeah, yeah, he used to be pretty good, but like ever since he stopped playing college golf and kind of got more involved with drinking and chasing women and shit like that, his game kind of went away.

SPEAKER_02: 44:49

But can we tell the story? Uh we're behind a paywall now, right? Like, like the story of Purcell and how dope tradition Matt is. Yeah, you want to start it off? Tell it. So we on our Georgia trip when we won that um Lake Oconey stay, you know, we're in like we're east of Augusta. Or no, we're no west of Augusta, we're east of Atlanta. East of Atlanta. And then we're traveling up to Macklamore, and then we go stop at Sweetens. We don't play Sweetens. None of us play golf.

SPEAKER_05: 45:26

Some of us don't play Sweetens.

SPEAKER_02: 45:28

But anyway, so then our next stop is Purcell Farm and uh the Matt tradition, you know, Dan's like, he's we're good. We show up, right? And uh we're we check in and they're like, We don't we don't have you, we don't we don't have anything for you. There's no tea time. Dan calls him and he's like, give me a second. I'll never forget this, dude. And he was like, he's like, give me a minute. And then uh he calls Dan and he's like, You guys are good. And then we walk up back up to the check-in desk, and they're like, Yes, whatever you need.

SPEAKER_01: 46:08

There you go.

SPEAKER_02: 46:10

Archer Wade play Burcell.

SPEAKER_03: 46:12

Yeah, it was he's he's he spends a lot of money in that place. He does he hosts a tournament there called The Tradition, and he pays big, big, big dollars for it.

SPEAKER_07: 46:21

Oh, yeah, and he gets it like a is it a social media tournament? Like, what is it?

SPEAKER_03: 46:25

It's a it's more of a VIP clientele um from his gas and pipeline. Um his real job, his gas and pipeline job. Oh and uh it's also some good money in that, yeah. Yeah, um little so he uh he buys the course, he buys out the whole property, and they're there for like three or four days. Oh they have like they do like the horseback riding, the quality of he's probably got Martin Purcell's cell phone. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it. Yeah, um, so he's been doing that for like the last like six years, I want to say five or six years four years, four or five years ago. So anyway, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 47:06

So yeah, I called him up, he's like, I got you, and then like 20 minutes later, I I honestly have never felt doper in my entire life.

SPEAKER_07: 47:17

You guys did you guys play that sick uh super downhill par three on the farmlink scores? Oh, yeah, that that looks so freaking cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 47:26

And then we went and stayed in a fucking little budget seagull suites place, and it was uh Matt was on the couch.

SPEAKER_01: 47:35

I had a love seat that was like nine degree. That's tough.

SPEAKER_07: 47:42

Sleeping on a couch might be my least like my back sucks.

SPEAKER_01: 47:45

Sleeping on a couch is possible, but that thing was that thing like the Flintstones.

SPEAKER_07: 47:51

It was a I need to be able to like sprawl out when I sleep. So sleeping on a couch is just out of the like oh it's terrible.

SPEAKER_03: 47:57

Well, what had happened was while we were at farm links, they called me. Oh, yeah, we were on the putting green. The hotel called me like, hey, we're gonna have to cancel your reservation. Yeah, um, we see that we see that you booked this and this and that. We have the hotel is closed for renovations. Like, we're sorry for that, but you know, the property is closed, so like the day of, yeah, yeah, like like you were gonna go there a couple hours and then go check into the hotel after the round of golf. Yeah, so they're like, sorry, we're closed, good luck. Yeah, they called us like seven hours before we were supposed to show up. Um I hope they comp your golf. That's tough. So um, I'm not sure if we if we booked something else or if they transferred us we were looking for everything to another property. But anyway, we got a two-bedroom, we were able to squeeze the two-bedroom with three beds, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 48:51

With three bedroom with three beds, and there was four of us.

SPEAKER_03: 48:54

So that's the only thing. There was four of us.

SPEAKER_01: 48:57

Oh Matt, you're the oldest and shortest. You can sleep on the couch.

SPEAKER_02: 49:00

He fit in that thing perfectly, super snug, dude. He was listen to Joe.

SPEAKER_01: 49:05

Joe says he fit into that couch perfectly.

SPEAKER_03: 49:07

Yeah, Joe. No, no, it's made for him.

SPEAKER_01: 49:11

Dude, Jeremy's little dog wouldn't like that couch.

SPEAKER_02: 49:14

No, it was it's perfect. Jeremy's little dog 32-inch butter. It was a 32-inch putter sofa. He was fine.

SPEAKER_07: 49:21

God, it was horrible.

SPEAKER_02: 49:23

But we did find one of the greatest hidden gems.

SPEAKER_07: 49:26

Discussion right now is why golf trips are so fucking awesome. Yeah, they're the best, dude. Well, because you guys will tell the story the rest of your lives.

SPEAKER_03: 49:34

That was the trip where the uh the e-sando came into uh existence.

SPEAKER_02: 49:39

Yep, that's the fruition of the e sando and Bob becoming Robert.

SPEAKER_01: 49:44

We found out about that.

SPEAKER_03: 49:45

Oh, two IPAs Robert Bob has a two IPA led.

SPEAKER_02: 49:50

Oh, yeah, the kids can batch up to you. I don't think that trip could be topped, and how much fun that thing was. Oh, and then we found one of the greatest hidden gems in Alabama, and nobody I've never heard anybody else talk about that golf course. Timberline was so much fucking fun. I was in there, like my back was fucking killing me the whole day. He was fired. I've never heard anyone talk about the golf course. Nobody else, I've never heard anyone ever bring up Timberline, and that place was so much fun.

SPEAKER_07: 50:21

Where was it?

SPEAKER_02: 50:22

It's just south of Birmingham, south of Birmingham.

SPEAKER_07: 50:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_02: 50:26

Jerry Pate design. Did you guys play any of the uh the RCP?

SPEAKER_01: 50:30

Oh, that's another thing. That's another one.

SPEAKER_03: 50:32

No, we were supposed to play Ross Bridge, yeah. But uh just after we had booked it, something happened with one of the maintenance guys, yeah. The NEMA guy uh the uh maintenance when they got their yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 50:47

No, they were treating the greens for nematodes, and the guy put down the wrong chemical and destroyed all of their greens, yeah. Yeah, and they had to do they had to do like a two-year renovation.

SPEAKER_01: 50:58

Yeah, they said we have one 17 and 18 you can put on, but yeah, no, that that completely screwed them for like 18 months.

SPEAKER_07: 51:06

It was bad, really. I was looking forward to that because the grass bridge looks dope. Oh god, oh it looks sick. They're the way they use the water all over the course and stuff, it looks unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01: 51:16

I've played Silver Lakes out there, it's very hard on the RTJ. That's amazing, and then Silver Lakes, yeah. Silver Lake, that's part of the RPG that's up a little bit further up north, and then in Oxford I played Cider Ridge, which is another so much fun golf course.

SPEAKER_02: 51:35

I mean, I think it's kind of a blessing because we found like such a dope ass hidden gem. Like you guys remember that hole? It was a fucking it was a C. It was a C, it was a short par four, and it was literally a C. And you had to hit it over these fucking 120-foot like trees to get on the green.

SPEAKER_07: 51:55

Matt's back was probably really ready to hold that draw off on that hole. Oh, he was no, he just needed that little slice to hold it off real quick.

SPEAKER_01: 52:02

We also found the real shit hole, too. I was a grumpy fuck that day.

SPEAKER_02: 52:06

That's true, yeah. That's true. But uh, and there's train tracks all through it. It's uh it's a fucking dot and the meadows.

SPEAKER_03: 52:15

The meadows, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 52:16

I was like, what was the name of the chainsaw massacre was filmed at the meadows?

SPEAKER_07: 52:20

Oh god, yeah. Leatherface was the uh the starter starter logo on the flag.

SPEAKER_01: 52:28

Yeah, logo's face's range. Bob lost his range finder there. Yes, he did. Calls him when he gets back to Vegas. We're like, Yep, we found it. We'll we'll mail it out to you.

SPEAKER_07: 52:45

That never came. Still haven't gotten it.

SPEAKER_03: 52:47

Still in the mail. Yep. The tracking number is still active.

SPEAKER_00: 52:52

It's still active, it'll never be picked up.

SPEAKER_02: 52:57

That was that was a blast of a trip, man.

SPEAKER_03: 53:01

What was the name of that pizza place we told us it was dog shit? Fucking hungry howies or something like that?

SPEAKER_02: 53:06

No, no, no, no. It was uh mellow mushroom. Mellow mushroom.

SPEAKER_01: 53:10

Yeah, that's where we went and celebrated my hold one because the entire town was closed.

SPEAKER_02: 53:16

Yeah, yeah. The moments we live for, man. That was that was an absolute blast of a trip. And I go in, Mike, I go wait for the day that another golf trip tops that.

SPEAKER_01: 53:29

I go into the golf course the next day to get a flag, right? And and I walk in, and I walk in, and yeah, they're all the same, they don't have the different courses. It's just I got it up here, right? It's just rentals like a cone. It didn't have the preserved flag, which I should have just taken it off the the flag that we were there. Nobody was out there, nobody was out there. All the people applauding on the on the patio maze at something, but so I go in, I'm like Oh, you had a little audience for your ace, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 53:55

Oh, that's nice.

SPEAKER_01: 53:57

I go, uh, I said to the girl behind the counter, I said, Yeah, I played her yesterday. I had a hole in one on number six or whatever it was. I said, Do you have any flags? She's like, Yeah, they're right there. I said, Okay, and she goes, 34.95. And I was like, Dan, how about a congrats?

SPEAKER_06: 54:12

Or cookies, dude. The one abandoned, though, they took care of you, Dan at Sheep.

SPEAKER_03: 54:17

The one at Bandon was awesome for Dan.

SPEAKER_06: 54:18

That was awesome.

SPEAKER_03: 54:19

Yes, yeah. They gave me the uh where the fuck is that thing at? You can't see around all his trophies there. Yeah, I was gonna say, just probably behind one of those.

SPEAKER_02: 54:29

You gave me one of these, yeah. On the hole, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 54:33

It takes me on the hole.

SPEAKER_02: 54:34

I'll never forget that either.

SPEAKER_03: 54:36

That's so cool. The scorecard. Oh, in the back. You know what? Bandit just knows how to do it. They know how to do it immediately. They're like, Oh, you got a hole in one? Like, oh here, hang on. And they're like, What hole? Well, everybody heard about it.

SPEAKER_06: 54:51

Yeah, everyone knew about it, and they were so happy.

SPEAKER_03: 54:54

So that's so cool.

SPEAKER_02: 54:56

And then Joe hooked up the Joe hooked up.

SPEAKER_07: 54:58

I've I've heard similar things about sand like Kaiser properties, just know how to do it, right?

SPEAKER_02: 55:02

Yeah, I mean, Dream Gulf, you know.

SPEAKER_07: 55:06

So, yeah, that's that's so cool. You guys had a video online of that, right? Of Dan's ace, I'm pretty sure. Uh we didn't, I think not at the time. Dan, I thought there was no, but there was one on the green where Dan was walking up to the whole. Yeah, I remember seeing that.

SPEAKER_02: 55:24

Yeah, yeah, you know what all what sucks is like with Matt's ace in Georgia, I was like, I'm gonna film. And then Matt says that we were trying to hit each other. Oh, they're back there playing, and then uh like literally, I like I felt it and I was like, Oh, I'm gonna pull out my phone and record, but it was just too late, he already hit it, so it's like it's you know, capture those moments, but they'll forever live in here in the heart and the mind, and it doesn't get any better, dude. I vividly remember it.

SPEAKER_03: 55:56

I watched it go in, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 55:58

And that's the thing, we saw Dan's go in. We didn't we weren't for sure on Matt's, but like there was no mistaking Dan's, which made it feel a little crazier, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 56:11

So so what's better? So that's the question. What's better? Seeing a ball drop, or the anticipation of that could have gone in and driving up to the hole and not seeing one on the green and running out to the hole and looking in the hole, or seeing it drop and then it's not in the hole.

SPEAKER_02: 56:28

Well, that's terrible.

SPEAKER_01: 56:30

Yeah, have you seen Joe's?

SPEAKER_07: 56:32

That's Joe's shot of. Oh no, I haven't. You guys thought you thought you had an ace and it didn't go in.

SPEAKER_01: 56:41

I ran up to the next T box and looked, and I jumped and I couldn't see anything. And I'm like, dude, I saw it drop, I saw it drop. We drove all the way up to the green. We're walking up to the to the green, and there's a ridge that the flag is behind.

SPEAKER_03: 56:55

Oh no, and uh hanging over the hole, and that's just like you don't have the picture in your phone, yeah. I got it, it's in there somewhere. You gotta see you gotta see this, Mike. It's like that's going to have a dripple.

SPEAKER_02: 57:10

It's in depressing photo. There's no other situation where that can't be in. And I'm like, dude, just chill out a little bit. I don't know. I've never this never happened to me before. Like, let's just calm down a little. And he's going, it's fucking in.

SPEAKER_01: 57:23

I was like, it's in, it's in, and then it's hanging on the lip, bro. It's the most depressing photo ever.

SPEAKER_02: 57:31

I know Joe's face is just defeated. It's on the top side of the mountain, too, which everything's running downhill, and it's literally hanging. Uh Joe's face is all and it was in a it was in an S NGA tournament. I would have been on his left forever.

SPEAKER_07: 57:49

Have any of you guys had an ace where you couldn't see it going and you went to the hole and it was in? Mine, yeah. That was that was you, Matt. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 57:58

I I remember being nervous truck because I was like, I was almost positive because I was on the T-box. I'm like, that's in, that's gotta be in, that's gotta be in.

SPEAKER_02: 58:07

And when we went up there, and it was it was it was we also were playing at dusk, so it was a little yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 58:12

We were looking so I guess if if there's a time when you like don't see it go in and you think it did, and then you go and it's not in, like like Joe's like, that's a that's a real brutal downer. But like if it is in, like that moment you see it in the hole, you're going nuts. Like, that would be really cool. But I think seeing it seeing it on the T-box with all everyone on like that's that's the yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 58:33

No, the ultimate, like you know, you're on a golf trip with your homies, and you actually see it go in, and they were yelling at everyone goes nuts to the group behind us. Like, that was pretty wow. Yeah, it wasn't even them, dude.

SPEAKER_07: 58:47

Especially band it wasn't, yeah. Dan, that wasn't your first ace, right? Dan, I'm assuming. No, yeah, no, no, that was number seven. Seven, yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_02: 58:58

Yeah, it was a moment, though. Yeah, that's awesome. That's why golf trips are special. You'll remember all those moments forever. Do it for the moment.

SPEAKER_03: 59:06

I gotta find it somewhere. That was that was sick. That was my first one in in almost 18 years. Jeez, like I have it here. Holy cow, scarce one almost 18 years. I got three in the summer of 2003 or four. I made three of those bitches in like four month span.

SPEAKER_07: 59:27

It's crazy how they run in spurts. Yeah, you see these videos of of of like some asshole that gets two in one round. You're like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_02: 59:36

Strokes gain, Neil.

unknown: 59:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 59:38

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 59:40

He had two double eagles at uh two albatrosses on the what at at at Sweeton's Cove, it's it was the same hole, two different pin locations.

SPEAKER_02: 59:51

He has like 38 hole-in-one. Who is this?

SPEAKER_01: 59:57

My buddy Neil.

SPEAKER_02: 59:58

Neil. Oh, you got the video too.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:04

We're pretty sure we saw it drop in the hall.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:06

We're pr uh he's pretty sure.

SPEAKER_07: 1:00:08

Oh Joe's like, I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:10

Joe's trying to keep his emotions in check and shit. He's about ready to shed a tear.

unknown: 1:00:14

It looked like it dropped.

SPEAKER_07: 1:00:20

I went in and it dropped.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:22

Oh dude, he was on the front T-box jumping like it's in. Just hyping me out. Uh oh. Uh oh. Because he got a what? 13?

SPEAKER_07: 1:00:33

Oh, I remember this hole. I went left.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:35

With the waterfall behind it.

SPEAKER_07: 1:00:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:43

So hard to watch.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:44

This is I I know. It is the closest thing I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:48

Hey, I don't think you can get closer, dude.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:50

Not go in.

SPEAKER_07: 1:00:51

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:58

Look at the face. I mean, you could breathe on it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:02

We put the shadow. We tried to put the shadow. Oh my god, that's brutal. Put a little creak on it.

SPEAKER_07: 1:01:08

Oh my god. That's not Joe, that's nauseating.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 1:01:11

And I didn't even hit the shot.

unknown: 1:01:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:16

In my Greg Norman shorts.

SPEAKER_07: 1:01:18

So the question is if he's standing over it with his shadow and it would drop. Does that count?

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:24

If it's within the time line.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:28

Oh yeah. I don't know. Oh, but yeah, that was brutal.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:30

That's the closest. I mean, that's just wrong.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:33

I mean half the ball was hanging over it. It's that's awesome. Close as anyone's ever been, honestly.

SPEAKER_07: 1:01:39

Like the wind shifts that's going in.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:42

Like as it's sitting there. Like as it's sitting there. The brutal thing about it was the front of the green was higher than where the flag was. And uh it literally did look like it fell in the hole, and uh it did not. We missed the habit.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:06

I was more excited than he was.

SPEAKER_02: 1:02:08

Oh yeah, I was trying to control it. I mean, that was what as the as the one that like hit the ball, like you don't want to 2020 buy into the I hit and and the thing is, is like I had a fucking perfect eight iron. I remember it was beautiful. I hit a perfect, perfect, perfect eight iron. Almost and uh, you know, and my when I get my hole in one, it's gonna be a little fucking thinny boy. That's that's how mine was out of the bunker into the hole.

SPEAKER_07: 1:02:35

I was 20 years old and literally played like three rounds of golf, and I'm with my dad at our country club in Appleton that basically he and his dad grew up on, but I like didn't play much golf, and I hit a thin nine iron from about 130 yards, it bounced two times and went the hole. And the crazy part is my grandpa, his dad, and him and I all have an ace on the same exact hole on that hole. Oh, wow! Wow, yeah, so I was with my dad when I did it, and it was really cool. Like, he got all choked up and like screamed his face off. And I I had just started playing golf. I was like, Oh, I've made it like that's cool. Yeah, like that's is that like how you like? Oh, yeah, like is that like mini golf? Like, that's pretty neat. Like, I made one, and my dad went bonkers, he was screaming his face like because he's a long, like a you know, lifelong golfer, and I had just started, I was like 20 years old, and uh yeah, it was neat, and he's gotten a another one on that same hole, so he has two, and his dad has one, and we were all on the T-Box with our dads when we got them, which was kind of neat.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:36

Oh, that's awesome! Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 1:03:38

The game transcends, it's so cool, it's such a cool game, it really is. Really is, and to your point, Joe, like I thinned the shit out of it. It wasn't a good shot, like yeah, you know, for a 20-year-old that doesn't play golf, I guess I I had the right line, you know.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:55

But it wasn't it wasn't a good shot. I fully remember the moment, which sucks because I I probably hit one of the greatest eight irons I've ever hit in my life, and uh yeah, left with that one. So I can't wait. I can't wait till I top a fucking birdie. It was a great it was a good bird. Did you get a scan at least? Uh no, they have money games. They didn't have skins in that right now. I don't think so, but it was an SNGA tournament. I you know, I I could have become Vegas lore, you know, but now I'm just on the Jason Daylight podcast and selling golf clubs on whatnot. Have you you guys have had aces in those tournaments, haven't you? Uh sure SNGA, I don't know. The only ace that that has happened in the VGN was KC.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:49

He owns this smoke lounge.

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:52

Yeah, he hit one and uh he did it at um Mountain Falls, Mountain Falls per un and he opened the bar like an absolute legend, as you should, because he won a thousand dollars. And uh yeah, that thousand should go to a bar tab. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_07: 1:05:10

Yep, yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:05:11

Tradition is shout out shout out Dan with his with his ace at Bandon on Sheep. Oh my god. We had full rain at McKee's pub and we were all so that ain't a cheap bar.

SPEAKER_07: 1:05:22

I'm assuming I've never been there, but I'm assuming those drinks aren't cheap.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:26

Well, here's the thing he didn't it's not like I paid for it. Um we have a stipulation we were doing a dollar per yard if somebody made a hole in one, got paid from the other boys. Oh so I got 147 dollars from seven guys, but I turned around and use that money to pay for everything at McKee's.

SPEAKER_07: 1:05:46

Oh, that was part of your like group deal, like if yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:49

Oh, that's awesome! How cool is that?

SPEAKER_02: 1:05:51

Yeah, I had to be over a hundred tab.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:54

Good for you, Dan.

SPEAKER_02: 1:05:54

So I just had to be over a hundred.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:56

Everybody, get your dinner, get your drinks. I got you. That's great. Yeah, own stuff.

SPEAKER_07: 1:06:02

Yeah, that's a team player, right there, Dan.

SPEAKER_02: 1:06:03

That is the way.

SPEAKER_07: 1:06:04

That is a team player. Oh, I bet that was the best night ever.

SPEAKER_02: 1:06:09

We were so tired, dude. Oh, dude, but that's that's what you gotta do. It was awesome, though. There's a live stream from it, too, honestly.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:18

I was sharpening a wine bottle opener to try to pop the blood blisters that were on my feet in that trip.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:25

Yeah, I had the 20 hour, 24-hour flu. I only played the front nine at at Sheep.

SPEAKER_07: 1:06:31

Right. You know, if I if I come with you guys on a on a trip, I've got a kit, I've got a suture kit, I've got a little scalpel I can bring. Well, you're gonna we're gonna need it for sure.

SPEAKER_06: 1:06:41

Yeah, yeah. I've heard my ankle.

SPEAKER_07: 1:06:44

Pretty brutal brutal stories out of uh abandoned trips. It's a lot of walking.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:48

Oh the airport walk from Joe was some of the best video ever.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:53

The thing that sucks is like it is a lot of walking, but somehow I developed a blood blister right on the balls of my feet, like right in the middle of the of the forefront of my foot, like just past my toes, like this area. A blood blister, too. That's odd. Yeah, and it was the very first fucking day. So the other three days, oh my god, me on the left, and that's Joe with catty ass.

SPEAKER_07: 1:07:19

Is Joe chafed up or what? He looks like he's walking with some chafing.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:22

Yeah, he's chafed up from the walk in, and that's me linking.

SPEAKER_07: 1:07:26

See, so uh Matt, you need to make a reel out of that and say, like, when Bandon hits too hard or something, like that's gonna be a real that's on YouTube.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:34

That's Bandon Walk of Shame, right? Yeah, it's a post-bandon airport walk by Joe. Yeah, yeah, that that's some chafage right there.

SPEAKER_07: 1:07:44

You got some that's a that's a free gold bond advertisement, right?

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:48

Yeah, oh a lot of walking at Bandon, a lot of walking.

SPEAKER_07: 1:07:53

Do you guys bring special shoes to Bandon for walking? You find a good pair of walking shoes, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 1:07:58

Yeah, we learned.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:59

I I brought I brought just golf shoes, but I'm not bringing golf shoes anymore. Yeah, just bring like I wear these. The uh I'm gonna bring my most like uh hiking.

SPEAKER_07: 1:08:11

Let me see the bottoms of those, Matt. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:14

Yeah, they're the G4s.

SPEAKER_07: 1:08:16

Do those stick if it's wet though? Because Bandon mornings are pretty wet, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:20

Uh these these are not they're not wet shoes.

SPEAKER_07: 1:08:23

They're they're not good wet shoes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:25

The new truth, though, that just came out are are really good.

SPEAKER_07: 1:08:29

Aren't aren't morning rounds in Bandon pretty wet, though? Isn't there a lot of do?

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:33

No, it wasn't really when we were there. Yeah, we were definitely when you go down, though. It's not bad. I've been fortunate. I've only played there once when it was wet. Pretty fortunate. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:53

I'm here. I know you are. I know you are. So much good golf out there, man. Too much, right?

SPEAKER_07: 1:09:00

Yeah, I got uh a couple whistling things up. Yeah, no, uh, we got some good golf out here, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:11

I still have my uh eyes on that uh club at Loch Labelle. That's in that dude.

SPEAKER_07: 1:09:15

That's a that's a great spot, and I don't think it's very expensive right now, actually.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:19

250 is cheap as fuck.

SPEAKER_07: 1:09:21

Uh dude, they're well, I mean it'll go up, but they're uh the rack rate there is like 175, and it's only going up from the fibs. The fucking Illinois bastards coming up and playing all of our gone.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:36

I think they saw there was a Lake Geneva one there. I think.

SPEAKER_07: 1:09:38

Yeah, stay and play at uh Geneva National. That's probably the best uh 72 holes in southern Wisconsin, like uh Geneva National. Very good.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:48

And Lump Rebell and Geneva National aren't too far from each other, if I remember.

SPEAKER_07: 1:09:52

Uh maybe an hour, yeah. Yeah, see some perfect combo, just down 94. Yeah, and then you go up to Wisconsin Dells and play Wild Rock and Trapper's Turn, you could make a real good trip out of it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:05

I heard Trapper's turns. I think that's in the in the auction, also, too. Trapper's turn, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 1:10:09

Yep, yeah. There's stay and play at Trapper's too. If you come up and play with me at Wild Rock, we can uh we get set up there too. They're real good.

unknown: 1:10:18

Fucking ass.

SPEAKER_07: 1:10:19

And then you're only 40 minutes from San Valley.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:23

Yeah, that's gonna be a whole thing.

SPEAKER_07: 1:10:26

Oh, dude, yeah. Sand San Valley crazy part is like if you're at San Valley, you're only 30 minutes from um Century World. Um, and then you're only about an hour and a half from Lasonia. No, not even, you're like 45 minutes from Lasonia, and then if you're there, you're only an hour and a half from Aaron Hills. What are those two courses that are closest to San Valley? Closest? Yeah century Century World and then uh Lake Arrowhead.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:55

I think I'm thinking of Lake Arrowhead.

SPEAKER_07: 1:10:57

Yeah, Lake Arrowhead has two courses there, the the Arrow and the Lakes.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:02

Okay, yeah. Have you played any of those?

SPEAKER_07: 1:11:04

Yeah, I've played both those. I I'm only like a half hour away from there, so it it it's uh it's Lake Arrowhead's really good. I I certainly wouldn't you know come here just to play there, but if you're gonna be at San Valley, it's you know, you can make a day out of it just to get off property. Gotcha. I wouldn't substitute it for anything at San Valley though. Yeah, yeah, exactly. San Valley's it's it's really good. If you're gonna come to Wisconsin for a buddies trip and play and you want to play a bunch of courses, uh San Valley's the play. Yeah, and it's and it's not close. Um, you know, whiz whistling's good. Um the the river course at Black Wolf is really good. Those are the two courses that are really good in that area, but outside of those two, there's not a lot within like an hour. If you're at San Valley, you play all the courses there, and then you're like 45 minutes from you know, Century World, you're you know, Lake Arrowheads right there. How's the bull? It's okay. Um, I mean it's a Nicholas. I I think the bull and the bog, the bog is right next door, too. That's a Palmer design. Um they're they're they were they were good like 25 years ago, gotcha, and now golf has just gotten better. I don't I don't know. Um they've kind of rested on their laurels. Uh they were they were really good like 25 years ago. They were probably a top five course on the eastern side of the state, and now they're not.

SPEAKER_03: 1:12:38

I get it.

SPEAKER_07: 1:12:40

So there's actually a course that I think is better than both of those called um Fire Fire Ridge. That's also a Palmer design uh that's actually it's on golf now, like once a week for like$40. But normally it's like 180. I don't know, I don't know why it's so cheap that one time, but uh it's it's better than both of those. And I played it all the time when I was living down there in med school. I'd drive up there and it was 40 minutes from Milwaukee, so I'd play there and it was a great, great track.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:10

Oh yeah. So much golf to be played.

SPEAKER_07: 1:13:14

Yeah, that's a must to get out there. So yeah, I mean, you could spend two weeks in Wisco playing golf courses here, and the beauty is every everything's within a couple hours, which is awesome. The problem is the season's so short. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:28

Van life, baby. Van life.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:33

Coming to Wisco. Well, uh, I'm gonna wrap this up. We want an hour and 15. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_07: 1:13:42

I know 20 minutes fun when you're just bullshitting about golf courses and trips.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:47

Right? Oh, they're gonna have to make this own its own entity.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:51

Uh so keep this keep this in the uh keep this in the uh files for when uh you know we can't record or we're going a golf trip and just pick this one up. Yeah, dude, seriously.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:03

Uh yeah, that's yeah, true, true, true, true.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:06

All right, Mike, thank you so much.

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Uh let's see where we're at here.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:11

Oh, yeah, where you're at.

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:13

Uh come on.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:16

Use in the chat.

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:19

Ws W 47,200. Not bad. Sweet.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:24

Not a bad first day.

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:25

Not a bad first day.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:27

What was last year?

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:28

Uh 36 after the first day. So we're on the schedule.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:33

You're almost halfway to the goal, right? Wasn't the goal 100 grand?

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:36

Yep. That's crazy. That's awesome. Now it definitely slows down like between now and you know the last 36 hours, but typically the last typically the last day you kind of double. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:48

I need to get to 50k real quick.

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:50

Uh Rodeo Dunes is still pretty cheap, boys.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:53

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna be keeping my eyes on it.

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:56

I'll probably last one at right now. It's like 2200, I think. Yeah, that's a three-baller. What's the bonus, Mike? Uh, they have like some sort of a twilight thing that they do there. I don't know, it's in the fine print.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:11

Okay, go fuck a cow.

SPEAKER_07: 1:15:14

Yeah, it's night golf or get fucked by a cow.

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:18

Yeah, one of the point, or you're getting fucked by the cow.

SPEAKER_07: 1:15:27

Uh now, if you guys don't get the Dismal River one this year, uh, we should get set up. You should come out with me sometime. Dismal River. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, it's not too bad for Denver. It's not too bad for Denver. Yeah, I mean, uh, the last time I was there with Brian, he drove from Denver. It was about three and a half or four hours or something. Yeah, it's not it's not a terrible drive.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:50

We're gonna have to hook up traffic out there.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:52

We're gonna have to find a ballet hookup.

SPEAKER_02: 1:15:54

You mean you do Dismal Sand Hills Bally Neal combo? Dude, that would be sand hills is a Pine Valley, Augusta, Cypress.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:05

Yeah, just knock those out, too.

SPEAKER_07: 1:16:06

Yeah, sand hills. When you drive by it, it's uh because it's I mean, when you're driving back to North Platte from uh Dismal, you drive right by Sand Hills, and it's yeah, it's very clear that outsiders are not welcome. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:22

You gotta park here and take the helicopter in.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:25

Yeah, what do we got there? Little sand hills action.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:31

Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:32

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:33

Oh, Nebraska logo.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:35

Yeah, I guess I'm gonna run. Is that uh Cal Ripskins? Yeah, that was Cal Ripskins.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:44

Shout out Cal Ripskins.

SPEAKER_07: 1:16:46

All right, guys, whoopy shit. Yeah, I gotta go to bed, fellas.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:51

Yeah, shut her down.

SPEAKER_07: 1:16:53

Driving a snowstorm in the morning.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:56

Good luck. Hey, stay safe, Mike.

SPEAKER_07: 1:16:58

Hang on a second, appreciate you having me out.