The Chasing Daylight Podcast: Golf Talk, PGA Tour & Gear

354: The Callaway "Quantum" Leak, PGA Tour Shrinkage & Why You Shouldn’t Get Fit Tired

• Mathew Wangrycht & Joe Keith • Episode 354

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Welcome to Episode 354 of the Chasing Daylight Podcast! After a slightly chaotic intro, the boys celebrate a major milestone: cracking the Top 53 golf podcasts in the US.

In this week’s gear talk, Matt drops some insider intel on the new Callaway driver (rumored to be the "Quantum") that just hit the USGA conforming list. We break down the new gloss finish, the face technology, and why internet commenters are already wrong about it. We also get deep into putter customization, discussing everything from Goodwood auctions to the debate over whether Zero Torque putters are actually worth the money.

On the Tour side, we tackle the rumors of the PGA Tour shrinking to a 20-event schedule. Is it a smart business move, or does it screw over the next generation of talent on the Korn Ferry Tour?. Plus, we celebrate the incredible success of the Fore Hadley charity auction, which raised over $110,000 for families in need.

In this episode:

  • The "Quantum" Leak: First impressions of the new Callaway driver and why you shouldn't judge it by the black-and-white USGA photos.
  • Fitting Advice: Why scheduling a club fitting after playing 18 holes is a recipe for disaster.
  • Tour Talk: The pros and cons of a shortened PGA Tour season and the entitlement of the modern tour pro.
  • Gear Talk: Garson grips, the "Zero Torque" debate, and shoutouts to custom putter makers like Goodwood and Embrace.
  • Giveaway: We draw the winner for the $100 Top Golf gift card.


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Matt:

What is up, everybody? We kind of trunk created the uh the start.

SPEAKER_01:

Damn, you already went.

Matt:

You already went I already went. I well, it was gonna play the old intro, and then I I didn't like that intro. I forgot that I forgot to take the old intro off and play the new intro. So welcome to great intro. Great intro podcast. It'll be much better on on Apple and Spotify. So uh hey, you know, sometimes shit happens. So welcome into this week's show, uh, episode 354 of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. Thank you all for being here so much. Uh, we got some things to talk about this evening. There's a little bit of buzz going on in the golf world. There was some images from the USGA conforming list that dropped in the last 24 hours that is creating a buzz. Adrian's here. What's going on, Adrian? Thank you for being here. Uh so uh a lot going on in the golf world. There's PGA tour news about this shortened schedule that they may go to. Um we have some new merch up on the the CDP website. If you're on YouTube right now, there's a link. The first comment I put a link to the sh uh the merch. Uh here's here's the shirt that we got going on. Uh really happy with how this turned out. So we got that on a couple shirts and a couple hoodies.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh we do be walking like that though, for real. We be we be walking like that.

Matt:

That's I mean, it just it ooze pretty accurate. It's pretty accurate. Yeah, banded for sure. That's bandit right there, exactly. So uh how you guys doing this evening? I've just threw myself.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, fuck you.

SPEAKER_01:

What a mess.

Dan:

Hey, somebody just gotta jump into the deep end, bro. You know, yeah, we can't do it.

SPEAKER_00:

No warm-up, no like the nineties bulls theme song and you fuck it up.

Matt:

There we go. Welcome. It's officially started. Welcome to this episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. Thank you so much for being here. Oh man, I feel it's like that has to happen in order to get the juices flowing.

SPEAKER_01:

So uh Yeah, we just jump right into it.

Matt:

Yeah, just jump right into it. That's unprepared, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, Joe, let's go. Surfshack in the house. Thank you so much for being here. All right, uh, business. Let's handle the business side of it first.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, run that run that banner for the giveaway.

Matt:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me do that.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh let's get that out of the way.

Matt:

There we go.

SPEAKER_01:

$100 Top Golf gift card. All you gotta do is comment and be present at the end of the show. Courtesy of uh Mr. Boyd, the guy that blocks me because I can't play golf with him as often as I like. And Jeremy's not on that list, but shut up, Matt Boyd.

Matt:

Thank you, Matt, for donating this to the show. We really appreciate it. If you haven't been to Top Golf, I know we talked a little bit of trash about it last week.

SPEAKER_01:

We did, we did, we did.

Matt:

Um, there it is. Go uh, go get get some top golf on. So that'll be given away uh later on in the show, like it says in the ticker. Gotta be present to win.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, and you gotta throw one comment at least.

Matt:

Yeah, got a comment that's the live chat. That's how you uh participate. That's how we we draw names based on the comments.

SPEAKER_00:

And you might as well it's a buyer's giveaway, basically. Yeah, yeah.

Matt:

Yes, yeah, yeah, it's a it's a followers giveaway.

SPEAKER_01:

Where's payment at? He he would tell you payment would payment would tell you likes don't cost a thing.

Matt:

Likes don't cost a thing. So while you're sitting there on your phone or on your tablet or on your TV, or wherever you're watching this, hit that like button. Let it let the algorithm know that you're enjoying what you're watching. That helps us get out to more people. Uh, there's a couple different ways you can watch us now. You can watch us on your phone in the vertical, uh, you can watch it horizontal if you want, on uh your laptop, on your PC, or on your phone. Uh, we have that feature recently added, so it's been we've got some some good good feedback on it. So thank you everybody who has let us know about that. Um, had a nice little surge in the rankings. Uh, and that is due to that was cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah.

Matt:

Uh we haven't been top 60 in the US in golf in the golf space uh in a really, really long time. So that's because of you guys.

SPEAKER_01:

And the way that happened number did we hit at what what was our peak number? Which is pretty crazy. 53?

Matt:

50 was it 53? Yeah, I mean, it was we're getting there, we're getting there.

SPEAKER_01:

Top 53 golf podcast in the United States, which is absolutely crazy. Crazy.

Matt:

I mean, there's some heavy hitters up there that that we're we're getting in the company with. Um, but in order for us to keep doing that, a couple things have to happen. Uh, there's a link in the bio. I don't think it was there last week when I was saying that, but it is there now. Uh there's a link in the bio or in the in the show notes that you can click on and it takes you right to Apple Podcasts. Make sure you are following the show. So you don't have to leave a review, you don't have to comment anything on that. But if you just hit that plus button, make sure you're following the show. That lets Apple know that you're interested in the show and what we're doing. It's very free. It's very free. Tremendously. If you're on Spotify, please do the same thing. That helps tremendously. Spotify rankings are a little bit difficult because it's just sports.

SPEAKER_01:

That's interesting, Sarah, because we are very different golfers. We have different perspectives and thoughts on the game, and you called it out, and it's very accurate. So, shout out to you, Sarah.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah. So uh we're talking golf.

SPEAKER_01:

All y'all, all y'all tuning into the live on the vertical platform. Thank you for being here. We're a golf call podcast called Chasing Daylight Podcast. We've been around a long time. Thank you for tuning in.

Matt:

Yeah, and we've just found we're we're working our way to reach a bigger audience, and uh, so that's how you're stumbling across us. Thank you so much. Uh there's uh uh our Instagram.

SPEAKER_01:

Also, we're pretty fucking dope too. We're cool, guys.

Matt:

We're cool guys. Uh, give us a follow on Instagram. Uh, if you're here on YouTube, like the show, uh, subscribe to the show. Uh, all the episodes are on here. Um, the old episodes, uh, you got to go to uh Apple or Spotify to hear all those. Also have the website. Um, it's uh at 1440 Golf. There's a podcast link, and you can listen to all the shows there as well. So uh we're grateful for everybody. Uh, if you're watching us here, uh, you're a fan, we appreciate it. Just make sure you hit that uh Apple up and uh hit that plus sign there. That will help. And it did. It did, it showed it right away, and uh we're we're thankful for that. Also, I want to give some love to Garson Golf. Huge supporters of the show. Uh, we've been promoting them for a couple months now. Uh, there is a discount code that we have right here. Uh, it's daylight15, saves you 15% on any purchases that you make on their website. Only place you can get Garson is online or Joe's Whatnot show, which we had that take place the other night, and man, was that wild.

SPEAKER_01:

That was that was crazy.

Matt:

I actually got on.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Matt co-hosted. Did you guys see that? Yep, I did. Matt co-hosted on whatnot with me.

Matt:

I got on.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, or should I would have seen that?

Matt:

Good point, boyd, or Matt's garage. Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

No, that was fun. I I think it's awesome that you know, uh, Garson's not huge. It's not huge, but it should be because we truly believe in their grips and they're fantastic. And uh, you know what I mean? Garson, Garson, right here too. Garson back there, Jeremy Garson.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, where's mine?

Matt:

It's staying in the garage.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, I think it's one of those things that do you know, and that's that's one of the reasons I started doing whatnot is to teach, you know, and educate and about the brands that people don't know about. So Garson's fantastic, and it it was pretty good. We got we got 50 Garson grips out there into the wild because of whatnot, and I can't wait for people to try it and give their feedback because they're fucking good shit.

Matt:

Dude, these Odyssey grips are so good.

SPEAKER_01:

They just also the also the ones we ran have never came out, so yeah.

Matt:

Like yeah, you were getting some rare, some rare boys.

SPEAKER_01:

Mira miras are all gone. Uh no, we have we have a shit ton still downstairs in the whatnot garage. Those ones are awesome. I really love those super cool.

Matt:

Yeah, and they were so happy with what we did. We're getting more. So more are coming. More coming.

SPEAKER_01:

And moss, mass.

Matt:

And we're gonna be giving away a grip every other week. So this week we're giving away top golf. Next week will be a Garson grip, week after that, something else. Week after that, a Garson grip. So every other week we'll be giving away a Garson grip to a listener. So sweet.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, guys, if if you were on my show, uh whatnot, and bought a Garson grip, please go support Daylight 15, where I can say it here, Garson Golf on their website. Yeah, I got I got yelled at by my kid for saying but please, but please, but please let me know what you think about them because we want to hear the feedback because we truly believe in them. You know, everybody's so different and personal, but we believe in these grips, and uh please let me know if you believe it.

Matt:

Boom. Like hearing that.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, Surf, we didn't sell that one. I we donated it to you via via Chasing Daylight podcast. I gave one away on Surfshack's whatnot show. Go follow Surfshack on whatnot. Uh, I gave one away uh and donated it to a show and it ran and uh it's ready to go. Just send me the label. But you know, whatnot things are whatnot tings, if you will.

Matt:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Shout out to Surfshack.

Matt:

Yeah, so and if you have made a purchase uh using our code or through Joe's show or my garage, let us know what you think. Uh throw a comment out there on any of like, especially on the uh the Garson interview. Uh throw a comment on there. Uh let let Bernie know what you think. Uh any of the posts that we have on our social pages involving Garson. If you have a grip and you like it, leave a comment. If you hate it, send us a message.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I want to know. Uh no. And that's but that's one thing about Garson, though. Like, if you guys tell us, we can bring your feedback back to them and let let them know. Because we have a great relationship with Garson, obviously. Um, let us know what you think. I'm I'm real curious because I love them. So I'm really curious to see what the players, the golfers that got some from whatnot, or from our using our code Daylight15 on Garson Golf's website, what they think. So let us know if you've used one in the chat. Fantastic grips. Yeah, I stand by them.

Matt:

I uh I got one of the new BGT Carbon Pro uh I saw that and uh I put that on the Goodwood Proto, the uh the mallet, and I had the it came with a just a stock KBS putter shaft. Um, and I had the uh 15-inch quad tour on there, and so I took that off and I was like, I gotta have something. What am I gonna put it on? And so I put it, oh, we lost Dan. Oh, come back, Dan. We'll be back. Yeah, I put it on the uh Chasing Daylight uh Strokes Gain putter. Yeah, and this morning I was making everything. Everything.

SPEAKER_01:

It I'm like if you guys, if you guys are new here, this happens at least every two or three months.

Matt:

So yeah, I don't know if I'll ever bring it with me to the golf course. Uh maybe just to mess around on the putting green. Um, because I'm just I'm such a fanboy of of the Goodwood um blade. Um, so oh boyd, could I put one on Boyd's new Odyssey? Oh he got he got the max, he got the the 15-inch max in the black looks so good on there. It's like they were made for each other.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, he he doesn't hate you currently, so you can't.

Matt:

No, I wouldn't I showed up for the tea time I said I could play.

SPEAKER_02:

Boy, don't don't block Joe and I. We'll play, we'll let us know when your next tea times are. I can't wait. I can't wait to see what I'm not available on that one either. I know.

Matt:

Oh man. Yeah, so uh I had uh dead to me.

SPEAKER_01:

You just you just wait, you just wait, Matt Boyd, because what one of these days I'm gonna accept it and uh and then you're gonna talk my ear off in the cart. I promise you, I know it. I know it.

Matt:

Wait, got paint. Oh, that's right. You won from on an auction, didn't you? What do you know which one it was with the the the blade or Adrian? I would join you, but I'm working. That's awesome. That got I remember he said he he won that in a in a whatnot sale. That's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Dude, I can't wait for you to get it. And then and then I know you bought some uh Garson grip. Got paint. And also got paint. Your your Chasin A Live podcast shirt is in the mail. It's heading to the islands. Sick. Sick.

Matt:

Knights already down one. Holy scroll. Okay, one one. Knights game going on. So much going on.

SPEAKER_01:

Goodwood doesn't make a ton of ton of mallets, but they're changing format a bit.

Matt:

Yeah. So also, if you guys don't know something about Goodwood, he does an auction every week where he'll throw a couple putters up.

SPEAKER_01:

I saw the one the one this week, Ass Man, the Ass Man Putter. Oh, the Seinfeld putter.

Matt:

I'm like so tempted to bid on that because it is such a good looking putter. Like, yeah, that was cool.

SPEAKER_01:

And it's also one of my favorite shows that has ever been shown on TV.

Matt:

And Jeremy, I talked to him about your putter, and he's said yes, he'll take care of that. So okay. He will do that. He'll do it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So I'll uh shoot him an email or something with yep, that's what he said.

Matt:

And uh I gotta I gotta send the one putter that I have that he let me borrow back to him so we can put it all in one box.

SPEAKER_01:

I was uh I was texting with payment failed the other day. He was riding in this tractor and hitting golf balls out of corn kernels or whatever he does out there in Nebraska. But um he was asking about Goodwood and I, you know, sent all the links and I'm like, hey, go listen to that Goodwood episode. And because he was asking me, like, do they do custom or what do they have mallets? And do that, I'm like, just go listen to that podcast uh when Dave was on with us, uh, Goodwood, and he found it. I think it's in the 220 to 235 episode range. Um, but yeah, he he put it on and he's he's thinking about getting one to 320. 20 episodes ago is five months. It was during the summer sometime, so um, so that's why he gave a guess to mint. But I also showed I I told uh payment failed about Olson, which he'd never heard of. So hey, Bubba for the win in the house. Let's go. 22026 in Vegas at Revere. Shout out Bubba. But um, yeah, I would I sent uh I sent him all that contact information, but you can go listen to that podcast with Goodwood Putters um and and figure all that shit out because they make fire us stuff. David kills it. He's back.

Dan:

Blackout. Yeah, something happened.

Matt:

A little blackout in the in the hills of Mountain Edge, Mountain's Edge.

Dan:

Yeah, a little you know, a little glitch in the matrix.

Matt:

Uh let's see, what were we talking about? Uh I wanted to look at that real quick just to see when that episode was so we could tell people that are listening right now if they want to go back. That was 328. May 28th is when we had Dave on.

SPEAKER_01:

So shout out to homie Zach, Bubba for the win. Appreciate you, homie.

Matt:

Thanks, man. And and Joe sent me the link where you guys are talking about us on the show.

SPEAKER_01:

No, that's not him.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, that's not him.

SPEAKER_01:

Zach, he doesn't know, guys. He doesn't know. I'm still again there's no Zach is no Zach is the one that's thrown the tournament in Vegas on 22026 with Grunkdoffer at Revere. Okay, there's just too many for the win. Yeah, you that's the thing, you got to get ingrained into the community. I've done that over the past year, and I know all these guys, and you know, we look out for each other, you know, because we're homies and all that.

Matt:

I'm not getting any group chats anytime soon.

SPEAKER_01:

He's old, he's old. I'm old too, but I'm old, man. Shut up, Joe.

Dan:

You're the you're the youngest.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm old, I'm old compared to the whatnot space.

Dan:

Yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_01:

And I know I know my homie Zach is old too. So shout out, shout out the homie Bubba for the win.

Matt:

Hey, one other one other order of business. Last week we launched our first subscriber-only episode that went out. Uh, and you know, there's there's only one way to obtain that, and that is to subscribe to the show. So uh there's also another link in the show notes where you can subscribe to that. Five bucks a month. You can subscribe to CDP Premium. That'll get you access to the after shows that we're recording. Those are gonna be on the premium side. I have an interview with um Preston Combs that is taking place on Monday. He's gonna be in town uh and we're gonna sit down and talk golf. That is gonna be some of the most informative stuff you'll ever gonna hear on this podcast. I am so geeked for this because it's like my level of nerd nerdom with putting. Uh, you know, I I tell a lot of people, I don't I don't hit the ball far. I'm not a big hitter off the tee. But if there's anything that I can control and anything that I can work on that I can be the best at, it's putting. Um, you know, so my goal is to be the best, the best putter in Nevada. Um, I'm on my way, and it's a lot to do with what Preston teaches and and his methodology around putting. He's gonna be here in town. He's gonna sit down with me. We're gonna have a one-on-one talking everything that you can imagine about putting. What?

Dan:

Come motherfuckers.

Matt:

Uh we are on Spotify. We're on Spotify. You can get all the episodes on Spotify. You're on mute, Joe. Still can't hear you, Joe.

SPEAKER_01:

We're on everywhere that you can listen to podcasts. The only way to interact is when we go live. So you can listen on to your drives on tomorrow, Thursday, Friday. But if you want to ask questions and interact with us live, Tuesday night is where it's at. But we're on spot, we're on everywhere you can get your podcast. You don't have to be here live, but it's how you can talk to us and we'll respond. But there you go.

Matt:

Where where can where where is this? What do you want to do? What's it can I come to, Matt? What do you mean? Are you talking to the interview with Preston? Is that what you're asking? That is gonna be I I cannot wait.

SPEAKER_01:

So that's gonna be cool. That's gonna be cool. Yeah, yeah.

Matt:

I'll ask, I'm I'll uh uh you can leave it here on after the show. Leave the if you have a question that you want to ask Preston and go follow him in that go follow him on Instagram. Preston Combs, it's Preston's putting. He is a phenom all he does, he's a putting instructor. He he's not a short game coach, he's not anything but putting. Um, he has one of those massive tilting uh putt view greens where he teaches out of. Uh, and it's it's gonna be incredible. So if you have any questions, I'll put together a list of questions from our listeners, 100% ask them, because I mean my my list is long. And you know, I've been interacting with him for about over about a year and a half now. Um, when I first started working with him is when I won the Sky Mountain tournament, and I 100% believe I won that tournament because he got me mentally prepared to put. It is incredible. So um you guys see this custom putters by straight butter putters?

SPEAKER_01:

I'm looking them up right now. It doesn't look like you guys follow them.

Matt:

Never even heard of them, so thank you for sharing that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I just followed straight butter putters. Is that you? Sleof? So customization, it looks like, uh, on uh putters. That looks pretty clean. Let's do this.

Matt:

So I can bring it up and we can share the screen.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so yeah, it looks like uh renovate. Oh look, we gotta bring back a look at this Instagram. Look at this. Yeah, we need to bring back a look at this Instagram. Bally Neal putter cover, first of all. Yeah, yeah. With that long neck T-E to really, all right. I see him. Straight blade putter. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's some clean work.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it looks really good. But it's customizing existing putters, it's not like custom putters. Oh, there's I like that one with the Bannon Dunes, with the Bannon Dunes trying.

Matt:

Yeah, there's some good looking stuff on there.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it looks pretty clean. Where are they out of Sleof? Do you know? Or is it you? Are you promoting? Oh, with the with the preserve logo, with the preserve logo. It's like they're in Arkansas. Oh, okay.

Dan:

Our cans.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, dope. Yeah, followed.

Matt:

Nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Followed.

Matt:

Look at that. Free ads.

SPEAKER_01:

Look at that, sharing sharing information, that's what it's all about. Figuring out the the interwebs of golf itself and straight blade putters.

Matt:

Anyway, so uh if you want to get in on listening to that episode, hit that hit that subscribe button. It's five dollars a month. You can give a little more if you want to. Um, but with that subscription money, it's gonna fund us to be able to do more with the show. Uh, it's gonna cover our expenses because we're paying everything out of our own pocket right now. We don't our sponsor is Garson, and they are have been incredibly supportive, and we're already starting to use their resources to make the show better. Um, we've dedicated a lot to uh helping our social media pages and our website and things like that.

SPEAKER_01:

So let's see.

Matt:

Who's the best custom putter guy you know?

SPEAKER_01:

Bubba's trying to open up a can of worms, man.

Matt:

Oh, that's all right. There's tons of cans of worms.

SPEAKER_01:

I know we could talk, yeah. I know.

Matt:

Best custom putter. So are you talking like as like fancy, or are you talking best made?

SPEAKER_01:

Um or like uh like what straight blade does. There's boutique, there's painting, painting, refinishing, or is it like custom from floor to top, or what is it, Baba?

Matt:

What's this? What's uh Kyle gotta say? So I think I asked you on whatnot, Joe, but do you feel the zero torque putters that are out are worth it? I have straight back, straight through stroke, and just play double bend with decent results.

SPEAKER_01:

Everybody's different, guys. Everybody's different.

Matt:

I was directed to Joe. I know, I know.

SPEAKER_01:

Guys, everybody's different. I don't want to blow up anyone's spot, but that's why the podcast exists, because we are truth speakers around here and we believe what we believe. And I'm not trying to blow up what's worth more, like what everybody needs, right? Everybody is different, okay. You have to, you have to you have to try things, get fit, and try things, like just like balls. You're not gonna be, I mean, Bridgestone does ball fittings, but as far as I know, that's the only brand of balls that does fittings. You have to fucking buy dozens of balls to see what works best for you. It's all about trying and figuring it out and calculating in your head and see what works best for you. Zero torque works for people. I don't like looking at it, it probably works for me, but I don't like looking down at that shit. So it's everybody's so different. Golf is personal. Play what you want to play, play what works for you, and it also depends. If you're trying to make the PGA tour, then fucking dial that shit in. If you're trying to play to have fun and drink beers with your friends, play what you play what you like and play what you know your homie's gonna be jealous of. Everybody's different. Sorry.

Matt:

Joe's a big fan of handling different balls. Thanks, Payne.

SPEAKER_01:

I yeah, well, no, I only I only play two balls nowadays. Preview and X, Wilson Staff.

Matt:

So right here, at the end of your message, Kyle, you say uh I just play double bend with decent results. If if you're not happy with the results, try something else. But with decent results, if you're rolling it well and you're comfortable with it, going to a zero torque putter. I if it's better for you, what are you gonna have a little bit more decent results? Is that worth dropping five, six, seven, eight thousand dollars on a putter? If you're playing a Saturday Skins game every day and every weekend, and and you're trying to compete, maybe casual golfer going out there, you're not gonna see a big difference, my opinion.

SPEAKER_01:

Dude, sleuth was fucking Mike. That's funny. That's funny. That was the that was the one where he got pissed at you, but that's that's hilarious, Mike. That's hilarious. Um, but yeah, it's golf is super personal, guys. Like play what you want to play, don't fall into trends if that's not you, and just play what works for you. And we're we're big proponents of that. Like we'll we've said that on many times, many, many times.

Matt:

And and at Callaway, I can speak at Callaway. Uh we do ball fittings, but we don't have 10 different balls there and you hit and we get different numbers. After you're fitting, we then talk to you about the ball that we would recommend based on your fitting. And I think that is a good way to go about it because we get the the knowledge of the player, we get to see what their ball is doing, we get to see their numbers based off of you know the fitting, and then we can recommend a ball. So that's that's how we wrap up most of our fittings.

SPEAKER_01:

I I will say, uh, so Adrian mentioned Vice Pro Plus balls. I I do really like, I do like the the vice balls. I think they make really good balls, but their covers suck. And especially in the desert, the cover gets eight ate up out here. That's why I typically play title list, bridgestone, and and the Wilsons do very well. But if you hit it out of bounds into the desert, the vice balls are not for you. Yeah, parkland courses only. Yep. Play the vice on parkland courses, no rocks, no. I like the vice balls.

Matt:

I I just don't like this.

SPEAKER_01:

I think they're good, but they don't put they don't they don't put uh they don't put the clear code around them, so it's just paint, it's just got paint. And uh no there's no cover around them.

Dan:

So it's just paint over core.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I just I think that there's I think yellow. I also play yellow, so yeah, you play yellow. I think there's a lot of balls that are good enough, but I think if you want to dial stuff in, then there's better balls, balls that will perform better for sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Everyone's different. I mean, some people need super softs.

Matt:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

They really do, they would play better with supersofts.

Matt:

Well, I'm playing with RJ and Kelsey at Legacy on Friday, and RJ swings it and he plays a matte super soft. Off and he liked mat. And I'm like, I go, dude, you really should have the buffer you, yeah. You should probably look at it. He goes, Yeah, but I just I I want to play a mat, a yellow mat or lime that green matte golf ball. Like, okay, what's more important though? What you want to play or your performance? What do you you know? Somebody doesn't care, then okay, yeah, fine.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, that's similar to like my situation. Like, I I could probably benefit from a mallet, but I don't want to play a mallet because I like playing a blade on the putter. So it's it's you trade this or that, and you you get what you get, you know what I mean?

unknown:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

So if that's what you want to play, then good. But don't expect to, you know, play better or optimize what you can do.

Matt:

Hey, why we got Dr. Mike in the chat? Uh, I do want to give some love to Ford Hadley and the golving community. Uh$110,850 insane. Was raised uh from Friday to or Tuesday to Monday. Uh incredible, incredible showing of love from the golf community.

Dan:

Um they yeah, they do they do an incredible job.

Matt:

Mike and his team, uh, and the four Hadley people do an incredible job putting together these golf packages, these golf courses. Uh remarkable what they did. And uh Mike shared, I don't know, it I should be able to say it because no names were were talked about, but the people who won the Rodeo Dunes auction, um they said the people who finished second place, the people who wound up second, if they match what they paid, they'll bring them. And they did. Awesome. So that was an extra$4,500 right there. I mean, awesome, amazing, amazing that people are willing to do that. So awesome stuff, man. Just the golf community is freaking amazing. I absolutely love it.

SPEAKER_01:

You uh yeah, and also this time of year, Mike, typically this time of year, right? Mike, but go follow beautiful golf courses, go follow follow for Hadley on Instagram. They do an incredible auction every year for a great cause. You can go back into the archives and go check out the the episodes that we did with them. But um, yeah, it's a great cause and it's a way to play some really, really cool golf courses that you're not going to be able to play without helping out a great cause. So go listen to that episode and also go follow up beautiful golf courses in 4 Halley on Instagram.

Matt:

100 plus families funded for their hospital stays.

SPEAKER_00:

Awesome.

Matt:

How awesome is that? That's crazy.

Dan:

That's amazing.

Matt:

I mean, that takes such um so much pressure off those families. God, that's amazing. Gives me goose. Goose. Goose. Gooseies. So uh hey, next year it's gonna be even bigger and it's gonna be even better, and there's gonna be more people involved. So we're gonna we're gonna start the hype train early next year and and really reach out. I was on the ball late. Um, got a couple courses here that would have been amazing. Um, so and I and I really want to talk to Roars and see if we can get Shel Bay involved because I think that would be so that would be moving nuts. That would compete with the dismal stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

So also if you're from the West Coast and you play at a club, a private club club, or you know any courses on the West Coast, because West Coast kind of slack this year.

Dan:

Yeah, that was a little whack. I was very disappointed in the West Coast.

SPEAKER_01:

Hit them up, beautiful golf courses or for Hadley. That's you know, we need some more West Coast, like quick day trips for us, so we can bid on them. You know what I mean?

Matt:

We're gonna need a BCGW Instagram account.

SPEAKER_02:

BGC West. Yeah, right. Um, Atlanta and play in that tournament next year. Yes, that would be awesome.

Matt:

Need to find out more about that and see cool that we're interested in going because that would be that would be so cool to do that. Oh, yeah.

Dan:

Uh I can play Sweet and Scove again. Again, no, not again.

Matt:

For the second time. Uh, what are you commenting under our thing? I will never play a center shaft. I'm stubborn.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, well, Bubba Bubba mentioned uh I need to play the Delmar Big Sur. Urno. You have to try it right here. You have to try the cut down Big Surge. Looks like a glizzy, but it's more upright. And then he says it is a nice glizzy.

Dan:

What big surveys um like uh the big broomsticks back in the day, Jeremy?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, they made broomstick versions and then like the super heavy, longer putters, yeah.

Dan:

And like the face is kind of it is kind of glizzy shape, a kind of glizzy.

SPEAKER_01:

I know what you're talking about, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Jeremy is also our local Scotty Cameron um authentication resource, yeah, and he knows it all.

Matt:

What was that Nike method that was glizzy shaped? Wasn't there one?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I saw that. There was one, yeah. Yeah, it had a did it have a plumber's neck or did it have a straight?

Matt:

No, I think it was center shafted.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't recall. They made one that was and I might be thinking of ping, but where it had like a double bend, but it was in towards the heel, but it was like glizzy shape. I can't remember what that was, but it was then that giant one we saw at second swing.

Dan:

That thing felt like a fucking steering wheel, yeah. Dude, that was huge.

SPEAKER_02:

There's some weird putters out there, but hey, how did that thing roll the ball?

Matt:

It was a felt amazing, it was so crazy, and that was some 60-year-old 10.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that that's the thing, man. Putting is so personal, you know. It's like what works for you doesn't work for someone else, or you know, it's so wild.

Matt:

Yeah, I got a video on our shorts of Jeremy putting that alien spacecraft.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm about to put a hammer in the bag. I just saw I saw a clip, I think Scratch posted it, and he was out driving Tiger back in the day, 400 yards.

Dan:

The air hammer driver, yeah. Yeah, I saw an interview with him, and he was the original version would have had holes in the plate in the clip face. Do you remember that?

Matt:

Oh, yeah. No, that was the second version with the the air pockets or whatever it was called.

Dan:

Well, I remember seeing some dude on the range back when I was like you know younger, and when you would take it back, it would whistle like because of the holes, and you hear like a it would go like wow all the way back.

Matt:

Jeremy and Joe, didn't you guys play with a guy that had one in his bag recently?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh I did, yeah. Yeah, Jeremy did.

Matt:

Where was that?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that was crazy.

Dan:

I love it. You gotta say pow after you make contact or pow like Rob Reggle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt:

That was crazy. Yeah, yeah. Oh man. My putting style, overpriced, customized, uncommon, and I still three put, but I feel confident and cool doing it. That sounds like Joe.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, well, you know what? Payment payment sent me a video of his swing the other day, and I wanna I didn't want to say anything. I mean, granted, he was hitting out of corn, but payment, we can help you. We can hitch, we can help you. Shout out Nebraska.

Matt:

Shout out to back to the someone's asking about the putters uh custom, and he's saying it's for the uh tournament. Uh so uh reach out to um uh Corey Paul. He does custom putters, um, he may make you a deal on one. Um Embrace Putters, they're in Arizona, they customize putters, they have their own line too, but they're really big into customizing. Um, Olson, you're not gonna get in touch with anybody. Uh Goodwood, he's not doing any special orders. Um, he's done until he makes his move, but there is inventory that you can buy um and get a fairly check out the auction too. I mean, if you want to get a putter, a banger putter at a cheap price, his auction each week is an amazing way to do it.

Dan:

Uh NorCal putters too.

Matt:

Yeah, NorCal is another one that does custom finishing. Um, spoiler putters, they're new and they're starting to make some noise um for what they're doing. Kind of a different you've ever putted with the leading edge of your wedge. It's kind of what they do. Yeah, Corey Paul. Corey Paul Functional Art. You'll you'll find him on Instagram. He does amazing work.

SPEAKER_01:

Zach, Zach, just text me, dude. I got you. Just text me, Zach. But yeah, everything he said is what I'm gonna tell you, so you don't have to come back and listen. But uh I got you.

Matt:

All right. Next up, I actually I actually saw the new Callaway driver today.

SPEAKER_01:

You saw it. What's it called? Can you can you confirm?

Matt:

I don't know if I can, but you guys can say it's called it's called quantum, supposedly. It's been released on the USGA list. Yeah, it's been on the USGA list. It's on the USGA conform list. So I get I guess that's what you I guess it's out there.

SPEAKER_01:

Guys, yeah, he works for Callaway, so we he can't he can't he signed.

Matt:

I'm legally obligated to keep my trap shut.

Dan:

NDAs, baby. NDAs.

Matt:

Uh yeah, it's called Quantum. Uh and I I hit it today. Uh it's it's gonna turn some heads. Um, it's it I wanted to bring this up because it it's so fucking annoying.

unknown:

Listening.

Matt:

Is it all black? Uh the triple diamonds are, yes. They have little uh red accents, but yeah, pretty much the the crown is very similar to the AI Smoke crown. Um yeah, uh the crown is very similar to AI Smoke. They did not do a matte and a and a gloss finish. It's all gloss now. Grab another club I need to get. Yeah, you're gonna like this one. Uh and uh there's some new face technology in it.

SPEAKER_00:

Um AI it sets up GPT uh face Halloway AI, yeah.

Matt:

Uh but I I it's I I didn't get to spend a lot of time with it. We're we're fitting all the staffers in town right now to the new stuff. Um, but the fairway woods look amazing, the hybrids look fantastic, and the drivers, man, it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a good year for for the company. So I'm excited for you guys to see it and uh and hit it because yeah, yeah, I'm excited.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I'm I'm still playing what two two years behind now. So it might almost be time.

Matt:

Well, you're just one year because the elite's still the club. Yeah, elites, yeah. So but what was driving me crazy is all the posts like My Golf Spy and Golf Works and everybody that's showing the pictures, and the pictures that they're showing are the hold on, did Tuesday$7.90?

SPEAKER_01:

There's no price been released yet. Okay, I it I saw Bruce Bruce with the$790.

Matt:

Um, yeah, I'm it's all speculation what they're gonna go for it. It he's probably not far off. I have no idea. I have not seen the retail on it.

SPEAKER_01:

I would assume it's$6.99.$6.99 would be my assumption.

Matt:

If I had to guess a price,$699 is what I would guess. But all the comments are oh, it's so ugly. Oh my god, it's a cobra. Oh my god, it's the oh a new club, same distance. Oh, we're hitting it, should be hitting a 400 yard by now, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh, change the colorway, change the name, same shit. And it's like it sucks that people think that, right?

SPEAKER_01:

And oh man, we're we're going on tangents tonight.

Matt:

No, no, no, not going on a tangent.

SPEAKER_01:

I know, I because I believe I believe what you're saying.

Matt:

I I yeah, it it's Callaway didn't used to release a club every year. Uh, you know, and what title is on a two-year window right now, and just uh Taylor made went to every year, and so Calloway followed with every year. And you know, every club release every year is not meant to be purchased by every golfer, you know. There's you know, like Julian, our our master fitter here in town, he's still playing the AI Smoke because he didn't see a big difference between the elite and the AI Smoke. Joe's same same purpose, you know, did not see a big difference. There's not a reason to switch every single year, you know, but there is a reason if you're at a four-year or five-year-old driver, if you're playing the Maverick or you're playing the um uh Epic Flash or even the Paradigm, yeah, go go check it out and see. You're gonna see a difference with those year to year. You may not see a big difference. You know, I I went to the elite because my dispersion with it compared to the AI Smoke was reduced big time, and that was appealing to me. That's why I switched. Um, had I not seen that, I'd still be gaming my AI smoke. Um, so it's don't be so hypercritical. Go hit it. Go hit it. Wait till it comes out, wait till the actual pictures are released, not a black and white version. Um, because you can't see the colorway on the one that's not all black. So that's gonna surprise a few people. Um, and you know, don't be so hypercritical. Just being a Callaway fan doesn't mean that they're putting out shit year after year. The new tech in this one is pretty fucking sick.

SPEAKER_01:

So most importantly is when you go if you're thinking about getting a new driver, go see the guys like Matt and uh Julian offer free fittings for Callaway, and there's guys for all the brands. Yeah, go out there and hit it and get fit and try and compare your gamer and see if it works for you, the new ones, and they can help you dial in your shit. And if you aren't even if you if you weren't fit into your previous driver, I guarantee you you will see improvements. I agree. Promise guarantee.

Matt:

And bring when you come to one of our fittings, bring your driver with you. If you come in for a driver fitting, bring your driver with you. We'll put them up heading.

SPEAKER_01:

Go to any fitting, just go bring all your clubs to any fitting.

Matt:

Yeah, and then this don't do a fitting after a round of golf. Schedule your fitting when you're not playing. It's it happens every single time. We get a fitter, we get uh a customer or a player to come in to get fit, and we're like, have you warmed up? Oh, I just got done playing. And I instantly know how it's gonna go. They're gonna hit the ball like crap, they're gonna say they're sore, they're gonna say they're tired, and they're gonna reschedule. It happens every single time. All right, let's say this. Matt, do you have enough faith in simulator launch monitors to make a club switch without gaming something actually out on the course? Uh if you're hitting on a trackman outdoors, yes. If you're hitting in a GC quad indoors, yes. GC quad outdoors, yes. Uh trackman indoors, I no. No, it's just not beneficial for that. It's great for games, but trackman indoor is not what I trash into.

SPEAKER_01:

Trash. We got a free trip to to Georgia because of how trash those radar.

Matt:

It's true. But yeah, the the GC quads, uh, that's what we use, and you know, we see photo, photo, photo, cameras, photo is yeah, cameras, supporting cameras, it's not radar. So um track man outdoor, it there's probably nothing that's better as far as ball tracking information. Um but uh club face and all that data from GC Quad is just so crucial to fitting. So that's what I would say. If you're gonna get fit indoors, make sure it's a GC Quad. If it's track man, go somewhere else.

unknown:

Sorry, Drake. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

There goes our track man sponsorship. Yeah, right.

Matt:

Do they come in after a round and hit less distance and slee shit on the new driver and not believe it's due to fatigue? Yeah, that or uh they're just tired. You're just tired. I mean, golf takes time and it's it's taxing. And if especially if, you know, no disrespect to the older people, but you know, if if you're getting up in age and you just went and played 18 holes, and then now you want to come and hit, you know, 60, 70 balls, uh you you're not gonna you're not gonna do the same as if you just take a casual loose, get warmed up, and then come hit some balls. So save the fittings for a day you're not playing golf unless it's after you're fitting. Yeah, my two cents. My two cents. Does that make sense? I don't know. Julian's in the chat, he might agree.

SPEAKER_01:

Or yeah, I think I think maybe like stopping after nine and then go get fit.

Matt:

Yeah. Would would be or if you have an injury, don't schedule a fitting. I just had I just had rotator cuff surgery, and I'm two weeks into being released to play golf. Yeah, let me see. I can't swing this five iron very hard, but let me see how well I do. It's like, okay, come on. No, no, don't get fit unless you're you know ready to go after some golf balls and hit and and make multiple, multiple over and over and over again swings. All right, that's what I got. That's all I got. So, new Callaway gear, it's coming. Uh, the official release will be coming up soon. You're gonna see us here in town and all fitters all across America. Uh, February is gonna be a massive month for us. We'll probably be fitting uh Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturdays every week. Uh, so the calendar is gonna be out, it's gonna be loaded up with dates. We are gonna be everywhere uh pushing this stuff. So make sure you you you get that uh scheduled if you want to check it out.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, Bruce, your question, I think we've all been there. I mean, you go get fitted and then you feel like you're obligated to buy something, but I mean these guys they're not high pressure salespeople, they just want to they want to dial in your game as best possible and give you their the results so you can see it.

SPEAKER_01:

Also, don't get don't get fit at golf galaxy or pga superstore. Sorry, find an actual fitter. That's my belief. Yeah, uh one thing that I hey I'm sorry, I always speak truth around here.

Matt:

One thing that I'm happy about with what we do is Julian and I we're not commissioned employees.

SPEAKER_01:

There goes the sponsorship.

Matt:

Whether whether you spend$3,500 on a full set of clubs, custom shafts, the works, or you come in and spend an hour with us and leave with no purchase, doesn't matter to us. We what we sell is joy, what we sell is smiles. Uh, you can pay me with being happy with your experience. That's you know, when we and we say this all the time, and I don't know how much people actually believe it's true or not, but when somebody comes in and they're struggling with something and we look at their current setup, put them something together and get them dialed in and they're hitting the ball better than they have, and the smiles they have on their faces, it's that's it right there for me.

SPEAKER_01:

That's I will say I've been I've been there during their fitter events, and like these dudes truly love golf. Um, so and I've I've seen I've been there, I've I've watched it, and they hit their old driver, and then they hit the new Callaway driver or whatever it is, and they're just like, wow, I did not expect that. And it's just it it, I mean, as a bystander myself, it's like that's fucking cool, you know what I mean? And it's it's it's helping people enjoy the game more, you know. But as long as they they fix their ball marks on the greens and they rake their bunkers and fill their divots, the joy is overwhelming.

Matt:

Yeah. I pay me, do you believe mini drivers are the correct fix for regular driver issues? No, I don't. No, not at all, not at all.

Dan:

We'll get a lesson. Yeah, not at all.

Matt:

Yeah, Mike was right, gotta figure out the big dog. Yep.

SPEAKER_02:

The thing is, like if you're struggling with something that crazy on a driver, you're still gonna struggle with it on a mini driver.

Dan:

It just won't be it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's just shorter, yeah.

Dan:

Chances are nine times out of ten, you just need to kick the loft up a little bit. Most people produce more side spin than anything, so if you just give yourself a little bit more loft, you can probably straighten out your ball flight a little bit better.

Matt:

And you would be surprised.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, probably or you need the D-type or whatever it is, you know, or you're gonna move the weight from the front to the back.

Matt:

Absolutely wrong shaft for their swing. Yeah, not their speed, and that's that's a big issue. A lot of people believe that you fit shaft to speed, and while that may be a factor, doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01:

You you know, in the great words of Eric Greenley, what's the shout out Greenley?

Matt:

It's so funny. I'll send him a message. I'm like, hey, I got a question for you. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And I know your answer is what's the ball doing, but I need a more bigger answer.

SPEAKER_01:

Shout out Greenley. What's the ball homie Eric Greenley?

Matt:

That's the I mean he has helped me so much with my fitting and learning. Him and Julian both. Oh, uh what's the ball doing? That's that's that will tell you everything right there. What's the ball doing?

SPEAKER_01:

Shout out Greenley, he's certified through ping. He got sent out there. I think he got sent to Taylor May, too. Greenly's a master, and he's so nonchalant about it, which is awesome.

Dan:

Yeah, taking selfies in the gold water bottle.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. He's like, I don't even play golf. Shout out to homie Greenley.

Matt:

Oh man. So, what's your guys' thoughts on the PGA tour dropping a bunch of events and going to 20 events?

SPEAKER_01:

Kind of wild. Gotta fit the TGL in somehow.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah. I think it's a lot that has a lot to do with it because they you know, Kappa Lua was like the first domino to fall. Once it went down, and they're like, Well, shit, nobody's gonna go to the Sony. Yeah, well shit, no one's gonna go to Tory. Um well, I mean, Tory maybe, but uh, yeah, they're talking about after starting the season after Super Bowl, which I mean, if you're looking for eyes on golf, uh you're not gonna get a lot of that when football's on. You know, they've yeah, found that out with college football early in the season. I mean, it takes a lot. Yeah, I know it did, yeah, Mike. It did fall because of the the water struggles going on right then. But once that domino fell, yeah, dominoes putting all this other stuff in place. Yeah. Um, what do you think? Good move, bad move, smart move?

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know, man. Yet to be seen.

SPEAKER_02:

So are they all I read, I can't remember where I saw this. I think it was a letter that was leaked or something from the board saying that they're gonna try and eliminate tournaments and make everything signature or elevated event.

Matt:

They're they're gonna not have the the concept is to have less events, uh, more predominant cities, not five events in Florida, but instead go to Chicago, go to New York, go to California, you know, go to Houston, the the big cities where there's a lot of people, uh, don't have events after majors. Give it a, you know, give it a week off after a major. A lot of people are like, why are they we just had like the biggest event of the year, and now we have to go to this town and play a golf tournament that nobody gives a shit about. So talking about getting rid of that and uh knocking some of the redundancy out of the tournament, the the season.

SPEAKER_01:

I think I mean as an old dude, as an old head, I think it shows some sort of entitlement, which is unfortunate. Um, I think they should want to be out there playing golf. I mean, I know they have a hard schedule, and but what what Mike and Kyle say is it it it shuts down the the bottom half players, definitely does. And that's not fair. That's not fair. And uh just because you have a uh sense of entitlement because you've been there, and uh you maybe want to major or you've won before, and it's just that those are the future of those guys are the future of the sport. So you have to take care of them so that when uh the guys present are gone, you have backfill. And it's it's just like a company. When when somebody's about to retire, you better have somebody to backfill, and then you have to have somebody to backfill that dude, that dude, that dude, because everything rolls downhill. So I don't like it.

Matt:

I I think one of the things that it can do is make the corn fairy better.

SPEAKER_01:

The corn fairy, it could get better because of that, for sure.

Matt:

Yeah, and and because right now you have the PGA tour as the elite side of the professional golf on the PGA side, and the Corn Fairy Tour, uh, nobody knows unless you're a diehard, nobody knows what's going on in the Corn Fairy Tour. And I I think with having less major golf event, not major, less PGA events could put more spotlight on the Corn Fairy events and get to know those players more and root for those players to make it to those big events.

SPEAKER_02:

But I think they're also they're also dropping corn fairy events, they're lowering fields, they're cutting back on that as well. So this is wild, man. The way the number of players that get their cards automatically is lowering.

Matt:

Yeah, it's all no, I haven't heard anything.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, this is all spent it's not dialed in yet.

Matt:

So this next season will still be the same, but um shrinking the game, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

They're trying to shrink the game, they're shrinking the game.

Dan:

Yeah, it does suck because I I agree with Mike a lot too on that. Because even though those other tournaments, like the wraparound events and all that stuff, you know, they're not big tournaments, you're not gonna get a huge a lot of big names, but those are big tournaments for guys that are trying to get in the top 120, you know.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, yeah.

Dan:

And those are meaningful tournaments, and now they're not gonna get that opportunity.

Matt:

And well, I mean, they're meaningful tournaments because they're paying out a million dollars.

Dan:

I mean, yeah, you know, yeah, you know, you make that's kind of funny too, because I don't know if you guys remember last year what it was at the Sanderson or something like that, where Scotty Sheffler entered the field and he won. Yeah, it's like yeah, I I mean, come on, Chuck. Come on, bro. You know, that's not a tournament for you. I mean, I guess it's warm enough, you can do whatever you want. Yeah, it didn't matter anyway. I know that smoke smoked.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but it he took he took it, he took something away from somebody else.

Dan:

Yes, he literally eliminated like 80% of the field by entering it.

Matt:

But that's that's the thing. So if you you're saying he shouldn't he shouldn't play in that event because you know there's a bunch of guys in there that are trying to make it to a certain status. Well, that that means he's upper elite. Well, okay, so let's just make a league for the upper elite and you know have the second tier be part of these players that can play more.

Dan:

Yeah, yeah, I guess, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01:

But there's already a league for the under elite, which is Corn Ferry. So maybe they should expand the Corn Ferry.

Dan:

It's I think if they're gonna I think if they're gonna do something like that, it's gonna be like a major, major title sponsor other than Corn Fairy. Yeah, it's gotta be like tour. Yeah, exactly. Or like you know, a huge, huge Trump, the Trump tour, yeah, or something where they're gonna put a lot of money into it because I mean, let's be real. I mean the Corn Ferry tour pays a good amount of money, but it's not like a crazy amount of money.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, bring back the Nike tour, fuck it. No, but what I'm what I think is what they could do is like if they're gonna shorten the season, like there's the main PGA tour sponsor of the the season, and then use some of that money to sponsor the corn fairy because they're your next generation. Yeah, and I think that's where a lot of the the brands work together. Exactly, and they don't they don't work together at all.

Matt:

No, they do not they they have to, you know, they it whatever they're doing to shrink the PGA tour season, what they're taking away needs to be added to the corn added to the cornfield.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, and the only way to fill those spots 100%.

Matt:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Why I mean, why is college football so exciting? Why do people love college? I don't get it. I personally don't get it, but college football are the next generation of NFL players. Yeah, the the Cannons, red guys, UNLV Rebels. But you know, you know, the college football is massive. It's probably just as big as the NFL. And I think that's where they need to figure it out because everybody's like, when the draft comes around, oh, you know, these guys got the dude from fucking Iowa or the the corn farmer that hit sand shots out of the corn. You know what I mean?

Dan:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And they need to find a way to bring that aspect into golf.

Matt:

Mike says, you wonder if this was the move pushed by the players or the suits running the tour. My guess it wasn't the players.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

Matt:

Yeah. I think there might be a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01:

There's only a way to put more money in their pocket, probably.

Matt:

I think there was a few that were like, okay, you know, uh, I stuck around. Um I'm here. Hey, he said that was for chat only. What are you sharing that for? Come on, dude.

SPEAKER_01:

Because he was it wasn't for chat only. Because there's more people viewing than there are thumbs up on this show.

Matt:

Come on. It doesn't cost a thing.

SPEAKER_01:

It's very free. You can hit the subscribe button. Shout out to homie in Nebraska. He's a farmer. Support farmers doing the work.

Matt:

Yeah, this is true. The NIL, I think, has run college sports. Dude's played for the love of game, hopefully make it to the NFL. Now dudes are skipping the draft because they make more. Yep.

SPEAKER_02:

Yep. I agree.

Matt:

And changing teams every year. You've got eight-year seniors that are 30 years old.

SPEAKER_01:

See, I have no idea what happens. Like the whole portal situation. I have no idea what any of that means.

Matt:

Crock of shit.

SPEAKER_02:

Driving Rolls Royce to the game on campus.

Matt:

I was yeah. I don't know who I was. I don't know who I was talking to about it. It was like, you know, you you get a you'd get a freshman, like in the Rebels, they basketball team, you know, they they get this star freshman who's just a stud, and you're like, oh yeah, I can't wait to watch him for the next three years.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I mean, shout out Wisconsin cheese, man. Great cheese, great cheese up there.

Dan:

Oh, that was funny, Mike.

SPEAKER_02:

Mike, seriously, I need more of that cheese, that white cheddar.

SPEAKER_01:

It was good. That was I gave some of the Jeremy, Mike. No, Wisconsin be doing their thing. I'm a badger, I'm a packer, I'm a cheese hoarder. Hey, I think this is a record.

Matt:

We have 18 people in the drawing for this. Wow. So uh let's see what we got. Uh an hour and two minutes, 30 seconds. 30 seconds if you haven't left a comment. You want to get in this, we're gonna pull the name in 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_01:

Never say the time. Never say the time. What are you doing?

Matt:

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it doesn't matter at the end of the day.

Matt:

Not at this point. We're pulling it. We're pulling it.

SPEAKER_01:

It's the wizard of Oz. It's the Wizard of Oz.

Matt:

The Wizard of Oz. All right, let me bring up the share the screen feature. And we're gonna do that one.

SPEAKER_01:

We need to get this guy on whatnot more often.

Matt:

That was I I I admit I had a blast.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, you you were you, dude. You were stoked.

Matt:

It it was fun. I'll make that large.

SPEAKER_01:

And now I'll you saw Matt on Whatnot? Co-host? Yeah, I watched for about five or ten minutes. Dude, who the fuck is this guy? Is uh little just being taping papin.

Matt:

And Matt can't win because he donated it.

SPEAKER_01:

Total dysfunction. Let us know you're here, and then also uh do a what's in the bag. I'm kidding.

Matt:

There he is. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01:

Shout out to the coming your way, homie.

Matt:

So much. Hey, look at look at this comment. Matt killed it on the show with the Gars and Grips. Love it.

SPEAKER_01:

No, natural, man. I will, I will, I will agree. He did very well.

Matt:

Oh, look at look at I got props.

SPEAKER_01:

Ws you're getting Ws. Oh.

Dan:

I knew how to sell and whatnot.

Matt:

Look out. Look out.

SPEAKER_01:

Somebody said earlier Matt's gonna start selling soon. Watch out. I was like, no, he's gonna give me all of his stuff to sell.

Matt:

Total dysfunction. We need your name and some way to get in touch with you. Because do you know who that is, Joe, by chance?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, total dysfunction has definitely been in my shows before. Total dysfunction, I know you're on whatnot. If you want to hit me in the DM on uh whatnot, or if you want to check out the you can hit me on Instagram as well, same name, I hit greens. Um, but it's coming your way, so yeah. Congrats, man.

Matt:

Congrats.

SPEAKER_01:

Also, go follow the total dysfunction on whatnot.

Matt:

If you're on whatnot, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And and Instagram, where go follow everybody, support everybody. It's very free. Just to bookmark and follow people, it's very free.

Matt:

Yeah, very free. Next week we'll be giving away an uh a Garson grip, not necessarily this one, uh, but you know, uh to our show's uh you know, support. Thank you so much. That's how it works. It's that easy, it's that easy. So anything else you guys want to chat about?

Dan:

Did anybody see the uh the goat today? We had a goat sighting for yeah, wasn't he?

Matt:

Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, he's cleared for chipping and putting and uh not playing in the uh father-son thing. No, who knows who knows who the goat is?

SPEAKER_01:

Does anybody know the goat? What we're talking about? Throw W's in the chat. Some casual is gonna say Jack. I I did see that. And it gave me hope, and it gave me hope.

Matt:

Tiger, tiger.

Dan:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Did he uh someone asked him about playing in champions toward what did he say about that?

Dan:

He said he was gonna he wants to play 25 events on the champions and the PJ Tour.

SPEAKER_01:

They were like, You're gonna play 25 events on the champions and 25 on the PJ Tour.

Matt:

Yeah, Mike, we have not figured out how to get people into the post-show hangout yet.

SPEAKER_01:

Working on it, working on it, working on it. So that's also guys, if if you want to see the post show, you can support and join what is it? What are we calling the subs CDP premium? We record a show after the show, and we're like, we're loose, we're super loose. Not that we're now yeah, we're not we get looser, we get looser up and loser. But BG BGC was in it, beautiful golf courses. Mike was in it last week. And C D P only fans. That's it, baby. There we go. CdPOF.

Matt:

That's we do need a name. We do need a name for the after show. So uh yeah, we do the 19th hole. The 19th can't be called after show uh can't 19th hole, so play so good.

SPEAKER_01:

The second 18, the second 18, second 18, the next 18. No wonder Joe is after dark. Always missed we're chasing daylight. Bruce, you're dead to me, Bruce. Also chasing darkness, that's a good one. I like that. Pretty good, pretty good, pretty good. All right, chasing golf courses with lights.

Matt:

All right, Joe, wrap this up, and uh for those of you who uh are subscribing to CDP Premium, uh, you'll be able to catch this when we release it. Uh those of you who aren't, TTFN. Anyone know what that is? TTFN. Talk off for now. Thank you very much, Dan.

SPEAKER_01:

I thought I I thought you were saying TNT. No. Um no, hey guys, thank you guys for so much for tuning in. We're we're true golf nerds, we love this game. Um and uh so much thanks to all y'all for tuning in. Garsettgolf.com, use code daylight15. Uh, we do have a lot more in store on whatnot. So go bookmark my shows, follow me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But the main goal is always get you guys here. Um, let's talk some golf. Let's be homies, and uh make sure you always get out there and hit those greens. We're always here on Tuesday nights live, 7 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. Matt's trying to say something, so say it right.

Matt:

I'm trying to hit the outro music and end this.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, seriously, thank you guys so much, man. Chase the Daylight Podcast. Make sure you go subscribe, like this video, help us grow. We're we're we're we're below top 60. Like, we're doing very well. Thumbs up always. Um, thank you guys so much. As always, Chase Daylight Podcast. Until next time, we will catch you later.

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