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Ever notice how your swing tells the truth about your habits? We kick off with a clean bill of health, ketosis debates, and the not-so-subtle way focus, flexibility, and recovery change the way the ball leaves the face. It’s a candid look at what discipline off the course does to your dispersion on it, and why a few smart choices can be the difference between “almost” and “went low.”

From there, we chase the joy: road-trip plotting, Riviera-style clubhouses, and the case for walking whenever a course allows it. We compare cultures where golf is meant to be walked and capped with a drink to American cart norms stuffed with beer by the fifth hole. If you’ve wondered whether walking is slower, we explain why it often isn’t, how it helps decision-making, and which Vegas-area tracks still deliver a great stroll.

Money talk gets real with the inside scoop on a rebuilt private club: six-figure initiation, paused memberships, and dues that jump once the clubhouse opens. We weigh exclusivity against experience and ask whether a thoughtfully planned public itinerary beats chasing a prestige logo. Then we wade into the net game mess: two-man shambles, eyebrow-raising numbers, and Yip Strickler’s crusade against sandbaggers. We outline practical league guardrails that make competition fair without sucking out the fun.

Gear heads, you’re fed. We dig into Scotty Cameron’s enduring pull, why original finishes matter, and how boutique builders like Goodwood and Olson earn cult status with true craftsmanship. Plus, new alignment tech gets a spotlight—Odyssey’s half-ball concept, tour influence, and the reality that one hot week can empty store shelves. We test the hype with training aids, face control, and a sober take on LAB myths versus measurable roll.

It’s health, honesty, and gear with purpose, wrapped in laughter and real talk from friends who live the game. If you’re chasing lower scores, fairer leagues, and more meaningful rounds, hit play and ride with us. Subscribe, share with your foursome, and drop a review telling us whether you’re walking or riding next time—your pick might change someone’s season.

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Matt:

Yeah, I need to get back to doing that. I got it away from my fasting because I've been taking so many anti-inflammatories that I gotta have food in my stomach, otherwise I get sick. So yeah, I uh but I did have my annual checkup today and everything flying colors. A plus A plus plus plus I feel like the the the chalkboard on on uh oh my Christmas story Ralphie's essay A plus plus yeah doctor was incredibly happy with everything so good cholesterol is under 90, which for me that's huge considering a year and a half ago it was almost at 300.

SPEAKER_04:

So oh yeah, yeah, so did you have uh did you do uh did you take meds before?

Matt:

Uh yeah, but I stopped taking them because I I when I went through my weight loss journey back in 2008, um I stopped taking all my meds because I got all rid of all that excess shit in my body through the weight loss and eating healthy. Um, and then I never started taking it again when I started gaining the weight back.

SPEAKER_04:

And and uh yeah, so there's uh not to get totally off topic of golf, but oh you're already recording holy molars.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Have you ever heard of Diary of a CEO? It's like a YouTube channel.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, I think I've seen it.

SPEAKER_04:

And he interviews different people, like he interviewed this good. Yeah, he interviewed this doctor about ketosis and how your body won't produce a ketone until all the excess insulin is out of your body, even like the stuff that gets like stored because it's excess. It's super fascinating. It's cool to understand how it actually works. How doctors tell you not to do ketosis because it's not sustainable, but really it's the best method for preventing.

Matt:

And yeah, uh, have you seen Jake Hutz transformation?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, he killed it.

Matt:

Holy shit. Yeah, he is fucking ripped now. Yeah, he's ripped. Like, wow, like, dude is just killing it.

Dan:

Was he on Instagram again or something?

Joe:

Yeah, yeah, he broke down his bowl, what he what he was been eating for the past six months, and monitoring his blood sugar. Um yeah, it's I just saw a brief clip of him and ripped. He's ripped.

Matt:

I was like, whoa, dude.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, he was already athletic, you know, but it's like wow, so yeah, I've I've been thinking like it feels like be like a few months ago, like the last six months, I've I've been really working hard at it, and then I've sort of slipped a little bit, and I can tell in my golf game, like specifically, there's things about it like whether it's focus or flexibility, it's like that's my driver of getting back because I can totally notice a difference.

Matt:

Well, that's and then a bunch of other stuff again, yeah. For sure. We were doing good at that for a while.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I yeah, Dan's still crushing it though. Dan Dan is a Dan is like the most self-controlled person I've met.

Dan:

Gotta make those typical life changes. Like, literally, my body does not crave that shit anymore.

Matt:

I've no day, so amazing, huh? I like have zero desire to drink, like no desire.

Joe:

Speaking of great humans, and this is a transition from Dan, who's also a great human. Great human. Thank you, Joe.

Dan:

Uh immediately after that.

Joe:

No, but I know I know the way he's gonna compliment. Uh Jared Jared, which what three of us have played with, who's also been on the podcast. Have you listened to the his off the deck uh uh podcast episode with Josh?

Dan:

I I've heard a couple clips of it.

Joe:

That dude is awesome. Yeah, yeah. Go check it out. And he's in New Zealand right now, and he also did the same thing on that podcast that he did on ours. Where he just takes over because he's just he's a rambler, like full ADA spirit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I would love to get, I would love the chance to play with him. Yeah, very cool dude to hang out with.

Joe:

Yeah, we need to five some. We need to five some. We should.

Matt:

I mean, it's not that far to him either. Yeah, we could drive there, play, and then come home. I mean, Jeremy goes to cars and coffee in LA every weekend, so yeah.

Joe:

No, he he's been asking me to come out, and uh did that that that that golf course is very fun. It it's uh it feels like Riviera because the the clubhouse is up top of a hill and it's it's awesome.

Matt:

Tuna cups making it happen next year. Tuna cups, yeah. It's coming the new year is coming.

Dan:

We got uh we got snubbed out on gamble.

Matt:

It happens, yeah. But you were it was a right call though. Why pay more than retail? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can understand if like I just don't know I'm only gonna be out there once ever in my life. Let's make it happen, okay, you know, yeah, type situation, but I mean it's not it's not that far of a flight and drive.

Dan:

It's not like it's an impossible tea time either.

Joe:

Yeah, no, no, it's a yeah, definitely doable, definitely doable.

Dan:

That would have been nice to get like 550 though.

Joe:

Yeah, that would have been nice. You're trying to snipe it.

Matt:

So I mean it's growing.

Joe:

The list on that place is it's it's no scare with Skirkrow opening. I mean, it makes it even better.

Matt:

So yeah, dude, I was I was hunting down Airbnbs in in the little town south of it just to see what's out there. There's a bed and breakfast right on the river. I'm like, yeah, there was a wine, uh, a wine place that has like cottages that you do the wine tour. It's like fuck we'll just not go on the wine tour. Five minute drive to the golf course. There you go. Tenth person has canceled on us this week. They all had title stickers on their cars, though.

Joe:

Man, I I need a golf trip. I need I need to go somewhere.

Matt:

Uh, but I also had uh orthopedic uh appointment today with a new orthopedic doctor. Um MRI scheduled, so uh are he's submitting it. So can I get another MRI done? Find out what's going on in the left knee. Uh just him basically talking and doing an examination. He believes it might be a stress fracture, although Dr. Mike doesn't think so. Um but so interesting to see what's going on with that because I'm just tired of fucking limping everywhere. Yeah, yeah. I get that. Sucks. Sucks, sucks, sucks. But so that's on the on the hangout.

Dan:

Did you guys see the new pictures of the 21 clip that came out? No. Oh, yeah. I well, I don't know if it's pictures or if it was a video someday that was just like if it was the one, forget the account that it was posted on. Yeah, it was like two or three days ago, but fuck man, that course looks ridiculous. Oh, that place looks sick.

Matt:

Where is it at?

Joe:

Uh South Carolina, I think. Yeah, South Carolina. It's the Allison Mackenzie joint from like.

Dan:

It's nuts. Let me see if I can.

Matt:

Did you see that what post was it about um how the golf cart? Um, yeah.

Joe:

Jeez. I mean, there's more too. I mean, it's wow. Aiken. Shout out to Aiken. Yeah.

Matt:

Uh they're talking about how the golf cart that run uh golf in America, that if you go to Europe or Australia or um, golf is you know, it's meant to be walked, and then afterwards you hang out and have some drinks with your friends, not get a golf cart, load up on beers and get hammered by the fifth hole. It was it wasn't shitting on yeah, it wasn't shitting on people who ride in golf carts, it was shitting on the concept that you have to have a golf cart to play golf.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah. That's what does kind of suck about Vegas is there's 90% of the courses you're not walking, or they even let you.

Matt:

No, yeah, but sucks because walking is just as fast, if not faster. We've proven that.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, yeah, of course. You should probably go do a walking round once you figure out your knee. We we should go do a walking around at national or something.

Matt:

National, LBC, wild horse, you can walk wild horse. We walked wild horse back in the day, yeah. Yeah, it's not a bad walk. I mean, the frisbee people do it. Polder City Muni. We've walked, yeah. Muni, regular Muni can walk.

SPEAKER_04:

We did that with uh yeah, well, yeah, Jeremy got sick and Joe was sick on the back nine, yeah.

Joe:

Joe didn't make it because he had COVID, yeah. Yeah, LBCC is the best walk there is in town, though.

Matt:

Yeah, I would agree with that, yeah. Yeah, so high is not a good walk.

Joe:

No, no, Revere Lexington, great walk.

Matt:

No, Coscada, Coscada would probably be worse.

Joe:

Coscata would be terrible.

Matt:

You know what? Oh god, yeah. Oh, that between like eight and nine or seven and eight. Oh my god, it's like a mile.

Joe:

Brutal, yeah.

Matt:

Oh, the uh um Royal Lynx was a yeah, good walk. I think we walked that once, didn't we?

Joe:

I don't think I ever walked Royal Lynx. I miss Royal Links.

Matt:

That's what I was saying. It's not yeah, you know, you just got the very flat. It's very flat, and all the holes are adjacent.

Dan:

And I missed the only course I've ever walked in town was TPC Vegas when they had the junior rates when I moved here. Anything anybody under 18, you could play that course of five dollars walking in the first summer I moved here. Nice.

SPEAKER_03:

I've walked Summerlin.

Dan:

I played there like 20 times the first summer I played her. Yeah, five five fucking dollars. That's all it was.

Joe:

Jeez. Uh so the Summerlin was a good walk. Honestly, Summerlin was a good walk.

Matt:

The new Bears Best Allure, it's called.

Joe:

Is that what Cyrus posted the other day? Yeah, yeah.

Matt:

Okay, do you know what I found out today through a conversation? Uh, what the initiation and dues are. Oh, I'm sure it's insane.

Dan:

Take a look at it$250,000 initiation.

Joe:

$500K mil milli.

Matt:

Three three, yeah,$300. Um, and then$150 of it was recouped if you left before the club opened up the clubhouse, but then they got rid of that. Um they have stopped at 200 members, they have all that money. Uh the monthly dues are$2k, and once the clubhouse is built, it will go to four.

Joe:

Jeez, I didn't realize they were doing that much work out there though.

Matt:

Oh, yeah, they're completely redoing the golf course. It's not very best anymore at all. It's a whole completely new golf course. Good. Yeah, yeah.

unknown:

Yep.

Joe:

That's wild. It's it's summit part two. It's won't be able to say every golf course in town anymore.

Matt:

No. Like me saying I played win because I played the DI. No, different, different, different. Very different. Matt, you have not played the win. I have not played the win.

Dan:

Jeremy, have you? Nope. Joe, you have, yes. Twice. Have you you have you played it, Dan? Nope. That's the only one. Oh, that's the only one left. Oh, we're gonna have to make that happen then.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm down. I still need to play Anthem Country Club and Red Rock Country Club.

Joe:

There's like three or four left. I mean, thin to win. Thin to win. You guys follow Thin to Win on Instagram, right?

Matt:

Yeah, he was just at win with Melosi.

Joe:

Yeah, so I bought some towels from him a couple like a month or two ago. Um, and I was supposed to meet up with him, um, but we just couldn't make it happen. But he's he's on that content grind, trying to, you know. Well, he's got a name, right? But you know, it's still a grind.

Matt:

Yeah, oh, it's a grind.

Joe:

So, but he he's like, I was like, dude, sorry, I didn't message you before he came, and blah blah blah.

Matt:

And uh dude, Carter Harder's in gold tonight.

Joe:

What what I didn't know that was tonight.

Dan:

Yeah, he started watching, right?

Joe:

Yeah, you're a big hockey guy now, Dan, or what?

Dan:

No, I was reading about it because they said he's got like a sexual assault past, and that's he was cleared. Yeah, I was reading about the article, but I read I read that he was starting to know. But no, definitely not uh definitely not a Knights fan yet.

Matt:

Although Dan was feeling it.

Dan:

I was cheering for the Knights because fuck Canada, but uh you know, I still got I still got you know some LA Kings love in my heart because you know I did some Kings games when I was a kid. So that's the hometown.

Matt:

That uh that reel I posted has 185,000 views now.

Dan:

Oh, really? When we were on the glass? Yeah, the the hell yeah.

Matt:

Such a cool uh man.

Dan:

It was sick, it was sick. The arena was dope, you know. When they scored, everybody was loud, so that was cool.

Joe:

It was definitely it's cool, it's fun, right? It's fun, yeah.

Dan:

Fuck yeah, I had a shit ton of fun. Uh definitely better going a raider game, tell you that much.

Matt:

Yeah, do we need to talk about that? Uh no, no, I don't know what was worse. Gino falling on his ass on the one airline or the the New York Giants field goal kicker. Oh, that was a field goal. Good lord. How he didn't break his ankle is beyond me.

Dan:

Yeah, that was that was weird. That whole situation was weird. It was like he fucking like he fucking had a stroke or something right before coming in there.

Matt:

I mean, it was a foot, two feet behind the ball where he kicked the ground.

Dan:

Yeah, that's really bad.

Matt:

I mean, we were talking about it today, and it's like that's the equivalent of a PGA tour whiffing the ball on a t-shot. You know, pretty much just completely messing up your job. And and you got one job kick a ball. That's your job. Kick a ball.

Joe:

I saw that post today that like Hawaiian. Is that a fireable offense?

SPEAKER_04:

Definitely getting written up.

Matt:

Definitely getting written up, you're getting suspended. But dude, you kick the ground when you were supposed to kick the ground.

Dan:

I mean, maybe if it's like you know, more than just a one-time occurrence. We did it like two or three times this season where you just like fucking took a divot before kicking the fire.

Matt:

The second time you're getting fired. Yeah, it happens the second time you're getting fired.

Dan:

You're right. You have one job, kick the fucking ball between the uprights at your fucking job.

Joe:

That was so funny. That was wild. It was like uh hitting you know off the T and just fucking duffing the shit out of it.

Matt:

Laying the sod over a teed up ball.

Dan:

How about that putter lineup from GHQ today? Oh, yeah, like five or six my girls in there. My girl was well they that was just on their Instagram, yeah.

Joe:

Yeah, that was yeah.

Matt:

The the Jordan Speed$25 super soft sleeves.

Joe:

Absolutely insane. I mean, did you see what they did on for Black Friday? No, what G HQ did? I sent it to you. The they were they were flash sailing la golf butters. Oh, yeah, yeah.

unknown:

Yeah, okay.

Joe:

Oh, that's right.

Dan:

Yeah, you tell me because about a dozen balls to get into that super rat.

Joe:

Yeah, have to do that. Yeah, dude. I was hoping to win that. Holy moly. Yeah, that's a good one.

Matt:

Would the dozen balls go for?

Joe:

Uh 27, like brand new Strixon dozen or something. That's not bad.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah.

Joe:

It's not bad at all. I bought a few. I bought a few.$27 for a dozen uh Z stars. But it was a circle T. It was a circle T. It was circle T, but that was kind of the notch. That's the most yeah, it's not the best one. It's not the best one. It's still a circle T. It was cleany boys, though. It was super cleany boys, that's not the one that people are after, right? But it's still for a hundred bucks, you can make 20 times your money at least. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so it's a what I said in uh our text. I mean, it's a parlay. Yeah, so a hundred dollars on a parlay, a five teamer, hit, you know, and you know, it's uh it's a chance. So if you're a gambler, then one in thirty. If you don't, yeah, exactly. One in thirty chance, and parlays are based on human interaction, they might duff it when keeping the field goal, you know.

Matt:

Some skill involved in knowing who to take. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah. Not saying it's all skill, there's a lot of luck, but that is Jeremy.

Dan:

Jeremy, real quick, did you do you know what those what those during our two man two-man thing uh what the winning scores were? Did you yeah, 56? 16 under?

SPEAKER_04:

16 under.

unknown:

Wow.

SPEAKER_04:

Is it? I mean, we didn't, I would say, I mean, you were pretty dialed on your approaches and everything, but we were not at our best, and we shot 62. And I know we had five to six birdies potentially eagle that we could have made like one or two eagles.

Matt:

Is it capped or is it stroke uh yeah?

SPEAKER_04:

It's all net, it's all net, yeah. So I mean we have to play absolutely perfect. Oh, yeah, to win that on a two-man. That was a shamble, even. Yeah, it wasn't even a scramble. So you had to play each other's t-shots? We play the best t-shot and then we play our own ball in.

Matt:

Okay, you each best ball from there, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But I was looking at some of the teams, like, there's some guys that are like it's like a five handicap playing with like a 27. Oh, geez, and so oh, you know what?

Joe:

We can talk about is did you guys see Yip Stricklers thing? Uh did we talk about this? The Barstal classic, the Yip Strickler.

Matt:

He was on Barstel.

Joe:

I know, I know, but did we ever talk about Yip Strickler? What is it? You don't know Yip Strickler?

SPEAKER_04:

No, what you guys don't know who Yip Strickler Strickler is?

Dan:

No, shut the new. I've never even heard of him.

Joe:

Go follow him on Instagram.

Matt:

Yeah, Yip Strickler calls out sandbaggers for winning big purse net tournaments, and he's good for that. He like calls them out, publicly shames them, like publicly shames him like that. Oh, I know, I know him. I didn't know that was his name. Defamation lawsuits against him.

Joe:

For I'm surprised you guys have never heard of him. Didn't know I just didn't know his name. I know I I know his face though.

Matt:

Yeah, oh I want I want uh sandbag and rat.

Dan:

I've never seen this guy at all.

Matt:

You haven't been easy. Uh, I want him to like do an evaluation on the VGN league and get correctly approved golf league. You know, the VGN is Jip Strickler approved.

Joe:

Good. I I guarantee you send him a thousand bucks, he'll do it. And it could be okay.

Matt:

Go ahead, send him that thousand, Joe.

Joe:

And uh you want me to send him that we have 700. What is it? 680.

Matt:

I'm not sending them our guns and money that's covering the podcast expenses.

Joe:

No, I know, but I guarantee I mean, yeah, there's but you know what I mean. Like, I bet you would do it for somebody.

Matt:

You want to start a new fundraiser for yourself? Do this one on us, and it'll you'll have leagues all over the country reaching out to you. Those guys aren't buying or whatnot.

Joe:

But I mean, if we can if we can entice him to come on the podcast.

Matt:

Oh, he was just on bar stool.

Joe:

I know. Well, now we we're too late, though.

Matt:

Oh, it's he's gonna blow up.

Joe:

I mean, he's already blowing up, but he already should just send him a message. Just send him a message, be like, hey, I run a golf league in Vegas, and uh people can paint complain about sandbag and rats. And uh I'd I'd be curious if you'd come on the podcast, we could send you some Garson grips, talk about what we're doing and see if you think what we're doing is yeah, maybe a short two bucks or you know, maybe a few bucks to you know a hundred bucks, fund some of your t-shirts and some uh we'll send you some rats or something, like you know. We'll send you some cheese to to to to reel those rats in, you know.

Matt:

Yeah, but watch watch his video on the Barstool classic that uh the guys that won. It's it's good.

Joe:

It's good. I mean, all of his videos are good. He yeah, they they really are. All of them are. You never heard. Let's go to the game.

Matt:

Oh wow, yeah, pretty good. Wow, yeah, you're gonna have to go down a yip strickler rabbit hole now.

Joe:

Right. I'm gonna end up on there one of these days when I win.

Matt:

Oh, yeah. 100%, 100%. Let's see, Joe from Hit and Green. Last worked with the true in 2024.

Joe:

It's more true nowadays though, because all of my when I play, it's in VGN tournaments mostly.

Matt:

So yeah, all yours all your gen scores are tournament scores.

Joe:

Yeah, yeah, exactly. All my gen scores are tournament scores.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh so I got this. I framed this today.

Matt:

Oh, is that the Wikapot?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, yeah, and then it made me want to buy art from all of the courses I played, the special courses. Uh uh, collectors. So I need to I need to find a good place that I don't spend thousands and thousands of dollars on pictures.

Matt:

Dude, I I owe awesome maps a video, and I told them I would do it. You know, it's part of the agreement of them sending me this map, but they sent me this map, and it is fucking huge. All right, oh yeah, it's I love it, and I got a perfect spot to hang it on the wall. I'm like, okay, I'll make one of those videos where you throw it on the wall and all of a sudden it's framed, right? I'll do one of those, right? That'll be cool, and then zoom in on all the spots, right? So I go down to Hobby Lobby yesterday, which note to self, don't go to Hobby Lobby on Cyber Monday. There was probably 40 people in every line, just madhouse, right? So I go back, the biggest size frame that they have there is 24 by 36. Well, this thing is 44 by 36, it's massive, right? So I go ask, I'm like, hey, do you is this custom only? She's like, Oh yeah, and I'm like, okay. I said cheap. I want cheap. This is going on a wall. I'm not pushing any pins in it because it's a world map, and I I don't have any plans to travel the world in the future anytime soon. I just want to put this on the wall, cheap. Yeah, guess how much it came back?

SPEAKER_04:

$280,$2700.

Matt:

Yeah,$175 for a frame. I'm like, looks like I'll be reaching out to beds. Yeah, seriously. It's like, good, are you? I mean, good lord.

Joe:

I know what you're saying, but like real framing is not cheap.

Matt:

No, and and I wasn't going for real framing, I was going for cheap, like yeah, cheap. Hey, that one that's over there. If I had that size, that's$24.95. Can you do that in this size? No, damn. Okay.

Joe:

For things that are like I don't know. Matt, did you ever get one of these? Oh, this is my Wicca Paw right here.

Matt:

Yeah, I have my Wickapaw right here somewhere. Did you ever get one of what?

Joe:

Stanley Cup print. That's sick. I bought one.

Dan:

What? Stanley cup on top of the sword?

unknown:

Yeah.

Joe:

Yeah, 43 of 500. 43 of 500. That's awesome. I need like this is something. This is something you'd want professionally framed, you know. Yeah.

Dan:

You need to get those, you need to get some autographs on that, Jeff.

unknown:

I know.

Dan:

That would be cool. I got the box. I forget the box.

Joe:

Give it to Cyrus and he'll get uh like this boy with the with the Siggies. Uh that's I think that's Shay Theodore. I only got the original guys on this.

Dan:

I don't know. Coach.

Joe:

The coach also got on this one too.

Dan:

Deboner? De Boner, what was that guy's name? De Boner? Debonair?

Matt:

De Boner? That's the old coach.

Joe:

De Boner. I also have all the pucks. I also have the pucks that I've been to.

Matt:

The game. Yeah, that's that's what this is right here. Those are all the games that I oh yeah, I didn't think about that.

Dan:

Man, we should have got a puck.

Matt:

Should have been a little bit more than that.

Dan:

I should have showed my tits and got a puck.

Joe:

Inaugural season 156 of 500.

Matt:

Yeah, I've got a I've got a Stanley Cup uh puck from the first year that's in the uh Steel Inaugural Season.

Joe:

I think this one is how many pucks you got, Joe?

Dan:

Like five or six?

Joe:

I got a lot. This is inaugural season puck. Signed by I think Riley Smith and William Carlson. Not sure.

Matt:

This is the game three against the Capitals. Did you go to the boys? No, I won it at work.

Joe:

I got this Captain Morgan bottle signed by Tom Watson.

Dan:

Tom Watson. Tom Watson, legend, legend. Drunk alcoholic.

Matt:

This is last year, or no, it's 22. Uh, against Utawa. And that's who Dan and I went the other night against.

Joe:

Yeah, fuck Canada. Let's go. Did you get one of these, Matt? This is the inaugural season card pack. Still in the Plasti Boys. Plasty Boys. Clini Boys, still in the Plasty Boys.

Matt:

Got that in the in the closet.

Dan:

Do you have any stuff, Jack? Do you have any uh Utah mammoth cards or anything?

Matt:

Utah Carl Malone signed uh I actually do have a Carl Malone signed card.

SPEAKER_04:

Nice. I got I got Jack Nicholas signed glove.

Matt:

He's a video of him killing the mountain lion and he he reached into the den and and he's holding it up. Oh yeah. Oh my god. I was like, that is a fucking man right there. He is one arming a mountain lion. Who is Carl Malone?

Joe:

Oh Carl Malone. The mailman, the mailman. Carl Malone.

SPEAKER_04:

I used to have a poster of him. Uh he he had like this black semi-truck and he would drive it around. I don't know, it's weird. But he would he was like dressed in a cowboy chap's cowboy hat with his semi. Oh yeah. Signed by him at the pro image store in the mall. That was pretty sick. And then he turned into a rapist or something.

Dan:

Got an underage girl pregnant.

Joe:

Fucking loser. What a loser. Yeah.

Dan:

Special delivery. Yep. That's crazy. Um uh did you guys know that Jack Nicholas has one of the all-time biggest black marlin um records?

SPEAKER_06:

No.

Dan:

Yeah, I think he's got like the fourth or fifth largest black marlin ever caught. He caught one off the coast of Australia and it weighed like 1,500 pounds. Well 1,490 pounds. Yeah, and that's fourth. Check it out, give it a goog real quick. That's crazy. They show him, yeah, it was like a week before a golf tournament or something like that. He was over there fishing and he Standing next to the fish, and it is absolutely massive. But yeah, at the time it was like the fourth or fifth biggest, uh not at the time.

SPEAKER_04:

1358 pound black marlin. A six-hour battle. Can you imagine how exhausting that would be? I mean, he probably wasn't doing that.

Matt:

Oh no, he had he had somebody reeling that in for five hours and fifty-eight minutes, and he hopped in the last two minutes to take credit for it.

Dan:

Yeah, that thing is absolutely massive. Do you see the picture where he was standing next to it? Yeah, yeah, it's it is a huge fish. Jesus. It's like a shark great white shark. It's huge. Oh shit, that's another one. Some scary shit in the ocean. It was 15 and a half feet long. He battled it for six hours. That's nuts.

SPEAKER_04:

That's not a good picture. It was 1978.

Dan:

Yeah, it's a terrible picture, but yeah, I saw it right out right now.

Joe:

Yeah.

Matt:

Knew it. What what did you say to payment? Did he respond?

Joe:

No, he's he's probably in a show modern or something.

SPEAKER_04:

How sick. Speaking of Australia, how sick does Royal Melbourne look? That place looks spectacular.

Dan:

There's so many good courses on that sand belt down there. And like over half of them are public.

Matt:

Yeah. Need to go down under. Because it takes half a week to get there.

Joe:

Jared, I think Jared's playing uh uh Terra ED.

Dan:

Yeah, yeah, Terra ED or Terra Terai, I think. There's Terra L.

Joe:

No, he's already played Terai.

Dan:

Anyway, it's amazing. Yeah, that's it.

Matt:

New Zealand literally looks crazy just from Lord of the Rings.

Joe:

I want to go play there so bad. Got to get out there.

Matt:

2031, fellas. So Joe says everything, gotta get out there. 24 hours, 24 hour flight. I was watching this thing one time. Like the world's best beaches, and they showed this one beach, it had a uh a cove area that was like just glass because there was a reef out in front of it, and the water, the the water was clear, white sand beaches. You stepped out of your cottage, you stepped down two steps, and then like five steps you were in the water, and it was it was just immaculate. I'm like, holy shit. So I Google it and I look, it was like$250 a night, and I'm like, what that's it? Yeah, because it cost you fifteen thousand dollars to get there. Like it was like an 18-hour flight, and then you had to take a boat to another island to hop on a puddle jumper, and then you had to get a fucking canoe ride to a village and a portion carriage, yeah. An aborigine, yeah, and I'm like, fuck, that's off the grid, grid. No wonder$250 a night.

unknown:

Yeah.

Dan:

Probably tuna, your balls are showing. Imagine that, bro. That'd be sick.

Matt:

Who you watching, Joe?

Joe:

No, I I well what I was doing was I couldn't hear anything about I couldn't hear anything um because of the AirPods. So uh Ambush was live, and when I did, fucking stupid, I bought an upgraded buyer's giveaway for him to give away a hat, and the second I bought it, he raided it into upstate.

SPEAKER_06:

So because I couldn't hear anything.

Joe:

I was trying to get in the buyer's giveaway, he was giving away something, and uh yeah, so I just took it priorities, man.

Matt:

Priorities, come on.

Joe:

Yeah, well, I mean, absolutely, just that's where I lose.

SPEAKER_04:

Who is who's does upstate the one that has two accounts?

Joe:

Upstate is from what I've been told is golf player, yeah. Yeah, okay. Shooters is on, golf punks raided me the other day. Uh Smoky's on, and let's go Smokey Doki. He reran a bunch of shit for me the other day. He's running a wheel though. Smoky's running on a wheel. Smokey dokey. I he he showed his hit in Green's hat and uh the other night when I bought from him, and he was like, I was like, shh, send me. I think I spent like nine bucks. I'm like, send me your crustiest putter you have. And it was pretty good though. But it's you know, it's the ones that you know, like he's got I think he's hit the wheels covering it, but he's got a hit and greens hat right behind him, you know. So it's like good advertising. Exactly. So I was I bought from him. I think I promoted his show, and it's so you look out for the ones that look out for you.

Matt:

You need to do one in like bold letters that just is hit and greens, and so when somebody puts it up there, they can people can see it and read it.

Joe:

I don't know what's going on with Pac Dad. I don't know. Um I would assume he spent too much money. I don't know, but um I texted Davy and uh I mean Davy was real close with him, so I don't know. But like, you know, here's Gott Paint right here. Rocking the hitting greens hat on his show. It was like a screenshot, so I got paint, but you know. I'm just I'm just saying, you know, and also I made that switch the other day, and I'm like, I'm not just gonna promise you guys something on the buyers giveaway, it's gonna be what you get. If you want to hang out, you can. If you don't, you don't. There's gonna be those shows.

Matt:

I don't even do a buyer's because that people that'll let you know who's tuning in to watch you and what you're selling versus they're here just to win some shit because you you see it all the time. People pop in. What's the buyer? That's what I hate and they bounce.

Joe:

That's what I hate. That's why I started doing that.

Matt:

Yeah. So if you I mean, if you just hey, we're doing followers where we're giving away some stickers and shit for you just hanging out. Awesome. You want a buyers, go find somebody else's show, you know. Yeah, we're here to chat golf and and sell cool shit. Yeah, I think a lot a lot of people would have more respect for that than no. I think that's what I'm gonna start doing.

Joe:

I mean, Tyler's huge, but he's he doesn't do buyers, yeah.

Matt:

No, no, I'm I'm offering great shit, and you guys are stealing it from me most of the time at great prices. Somebody was trying to paint him the other day and talking about swag, and he just fucking was ignoring him.

Joe:

Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna do shows where we give something away big, but yeah, I think it's like just hang out, we'll sell some shit. If you want if I mean if you win the buyers, I'm gonna load a buyers, could be a ball marker, could be tease. I don't know. You get you got something for free, and hopefully, in you enjoyed your time here.

Matt:

That's more valuable than exactly, yeah.

Joe:

Getting fucking somebody to buy something just to try to get they didn't want because they wanted an opportunity at getting a Scotty Cameron, which Scotty Cameron is the greatest putter company in the entire world. Dude, it's it's wild how many people still think that it's weird they're Scotties, bro. They love on the Scotty Hoard, so well, I hoard I hoard good Scotties, hoard good Scotties. Um any anything released, uh you know, I'll hoard stuff released pre-COVID. Pre-COVID Scotty Hoarder.

Matt:

There you go. I wish I wouldn't have sold that Olson to uh Jason.

SPEAKER_04:

Everybody still has posted on his site.

Matt:

Everybody still has posted on his site, he hasn't sold it, but we could have fucking easily done 10 entries under all the things for that.

Joe:

They wouldn't not know. They would not know. No, I know, but that's the thing. But like even uh payment failed just texting me today, and um I forget what he's asking me, but I said, Have you ever heard of Olson? He's like, never heard of him. And I sent him an Olson post, and he's like, Holy moly, the attention to detail, you know. Like I'm like, Yeah, this is you know, you know what I mean? So it's these guys just don't know, and uh it sucks. That's the majority.

Matt:

It's not oh I know, I know it's wild how many people just don't it's it's I I I blame the publications because the the the you know the periodicals because that's how most of that was because it was all the ads, yeah. Those people who bought ad space were buying eyes. Um, but now that that's gone, you have to look at social media. I mean, Scotty's not big on social media. I mean, he's the people that follow, and then there's the fan pages and everything, but like his social media presence is how often do they make posts?

Joe:

You know, it's it's not you know, they don't push crazy hard for social media, so I'm wondering where the I think it's the price tag is like any Scotty right now on the market is 500. I don't even know because I don't buy Scotty like the brand new ones, yeah. What are the brand new ones?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, they're like 450, 450.

Matt:

Well, you can go into galaxy and and get I mean, there's some that aren't that high dollar, right?

SPEAKER_04:

Or are they all the they're they start around 450?

Joe:

Okay, but it's it's hey, I could spend 20 bucks and win something that's worth 450.

Matt:

Yeah, that's appealing.

Joe:

That's what it is.

Matt:

Appealing just they could do that with brands they don't know and they won't because they don't know it, they know Scotty, but why do they know Scotty?

SPEAKER_04:

That's the thing that I think it's I think it back when I was younger and Scotty was kind of newish, it was just it was the price that made you think, wow, this is something special.

Joe:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

And it just it just built on from that. Like if you have a Scotty, people look, oh, you have a Scotty, or you know, what's the putter I should get? Scotty Cameron.

Matt:

But it's like I think that's the same thing going on now with Lab because there was 600 bucks.

SPEAKER_04:

I think there was some of that, but I think it wasn't all the price, I think it was the hype, and the hype, the difference, the something different.

Matt:

Yeah, I I think it's a lot of I'm gonna be the first guy in my group to have this, you know. And then guys are like, Oh, he's got one, I gotta go check this out.

Joe:

Oh, and you see that then it just tumbled, and that's what a lot of people that what a lot of them don't know is you could almost go get your own custom putter made for a couple bucks more, you know what I mean? Or yeah, same price or less goodwood, dude.

Matt:

And that's and what's amazing about Goodwood is Dave made that, you know, exactly his hands personal, personal. You you want a putter that Scotty touched, you're paying five grand, you know. Yeah, um, and who knows, even those does he even touch anymore?

Joe:

Probably not. I uh would highly Scotty's up on the hill, yeah, watching the the gliders over Tory Pants.

SPEAKER_04:

I think Scotty, like the ones that he probably has anything to do with, are when the tour players want a putter made, he may do some of the finished work.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I highly doubt he's milling putters.

Joe:

Oh, god assume he touches the tour-only stuff. Semi semile. Maybe for George, he he gives the okay, maybe, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But maybe the old stuff, like the old stuff that's floating around though, like the original Scotty Cameron, those for sure, I think, are special because those are ones that he started with. He worked on, yeah, yeah.

Matt:

I agree 100%, but it's all massive.

Dan:

Somebody had a black nap in there on one of the Scotty groups on mine in uh on uh Facebook. It's five six five five six hundred bucks. It was a I think it was like 590 or something like that. Was it restored or original? It's all original, and they have just you could see some oxidation spots, but yeah, fuck the putter's 30 years old now. Yeah, so it's uh it's fucking dope though. But I mean it's like 99 clean, like it is one of the cleanest all originals I've never I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_04:

That's the thing, too. Like, there's so many. I mean, not not degrading their work or anything, like the refinishing places. I would not buy a Scotty camera that's been refinished anywhere else. I just don't think that it's the same. Like, like when you see the like, especially those ones where you see when they're like Tiffany blue and all that stuff, it's just not for me.

SPEAKER_03:

Now for me.

SPEAKER_04:

I I think it's I would much rather buy an old original, pay more original finish, oxidation, whatever, than buying something that's just been restored by someone, yeah. Yeah, unless it was this custom shop, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, stuff. It's interesting. I mean, yeah. So what do you have, Joe? What Scottys do you have right now?

Joe:

I have the button back, champion's choice, I have the pro platinum. Uh what is it? Pro platinum is it Mill spec 330? 330 right there. That's a very sick butter. Yeah, it's very sick. Um, I have the what's the one we said? No, the mallet's gone. Bing gone. Bing gone. Excuse me. Mallets are gone, blades are in.

SPEAKER_04:

Dude, Dan putted very well with his five, what was it, 5.5? 5'2. 5'2.

Matt:

You play that at Palms, too?

Dan:

Yeah.

Matt:

Uh oh. He was draining this. Oh, he's kicked the Goodwood.

Dan:

To be honest with you, to be honest with you, um, I've been thinking about vinegar bathing my Goodwood. Take the dark finish off and get it back to the all-rack art again.

Matt:

I still have some of that 80% vinegar here.

Dan:

Every time I look at my uh my um um Newport style Goodwood, I'm like, man, I should do that to the mallet.

Matt:

So I don't know.

Dan:

I like the finish, but I don't know. I kind of want to see it raw now.

Matt:

Jeremy's uh sending his in.

SPEAKER_04:

I am sending it revision.

Dan:

Are you yep? Oh shit.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm gonna tell him to make it look just like Jordan Speet's putter. Title of stamp and everything.

Dan:

You put 009 on the toe, please.

SPEAKER_05:

Circle T on the heel.

Matt:

That's awesome. He sent me a message today and he's he said uh uh he posted a picture of it on IG earlier. So you can see it. Yeah, he goes, infinity torque. Oh, but that face on it is so so cool. It is so good.

Dan:

Yeah, he's he's killing it lately.

Matt:

Oh yeah, so I saw all the new Odyssey putters today, too. They have something called a half ball that they are doing on uh like the seven uh on the double wide uh blade where it's it's the lead the top edge is the half, and then the half the ball goes backwards. So it's round on the back, round on the back, flat on the front. It's only half of a ball. It's it looks really weird, but man, it lines up a ball really nicely.

Dan:

And they're putting it on the seven. That's the fang, that's the one with the fangs.

Matt:

The fang, they have it on the double wide, the seven. They have apparently Akshay is playing the DF3 style roomstick with the half ball this week. Rumor.

SPEAKER_04:

So we'll see. Wonder what it's like in the meetings for what the new putter line. Like, what can we do this time? It's it's like right.

Matt:

Well, Callaways are interesting thing. So, I mean, it they don't do anything unless it's gonna benefit, you know. And so I could see them, but with Akshay being a wildly popular name right now on tour, I could see them just spending hours with him going, let's let's find something that's gonna make you putt better. Yeah, it's such an individual thing with those guys once it gets up there, yeah. But then it just takes one, just takes him to play well, and then those things aren't on the shelves anymore. Crazy.

Joe:

That was what was crazy with uh jailbirds. Yep, yeah. I saw somebody the other day and they were like 250, and uh I can't sell it for 120 now. Uh well, you know, the shit happens.

Dan:

You know what's amazing to me is how much those fucking those fucking um uh those happy Gilmore hockey sticks are going for still. Yeah, that was wild. Dude, there's still$500.

Matt:

I saw a guy at Sohai with one. It's crazy playing with it, playing his bag. I don't know if it was his like his putter that he used, but he had it in his bag.

Joe:

That's a wall piece. That's something you spend$500 on to put on the wall. Nobody out there that I know better be playing with those happy Gilmar putters.

Matt:

You never know, dude. Never know insane. When I saw a video, did you see have you seen that uh that training aid that it's the two balls that you you they're tied together, but there's there's a gap between them, there's like a stick and then it's two balls. I haven't seen that. Like if you if you hit it with a shut face, it curves left, if you hit it with an open face, it curves right, and you know, but if you hit it square, it goes straight. It's a trainer to help you square your face up. And uh I I thought it was interesting because the guy uses a lab putter and hits it on the toe, and it you know, the thing goes far left. I'm like, that's funny because according to videos, if you hit it on the toe, it still goes straight. Hmm, so what is it?

SPEAKER_04:

Uh yeah, that's interesting.

Matt:

Yeah, I was talking with Dave. I said, I I would love to be able to take a revealer device and have a way to just tighten it, tighten the bearing, you know, if it has a bearing, just to tighten the bearing, you know, with just like a minimal amount of tightness, just to see what happens when you put a Scotty blade in there and it's flopping all over the place, and you apply just a minimal amount of pressure. At what point does it stop flopping all over the place and then compare that to the pressure of a grip of someone's hands? You know, it's just I gotta stop talking about the revealer. Sorry, Sam. Yeah, you don't see much about that anymore. Not a lot. Well, I guess we can wrap this up. It's been almost an hour. Joe, we're gonna go.

Joe:

See ya, Joe. Bye, Joe. There you guys. Toodle. Oh no.

Matt:

Who does?

Joe:

No one, yeah, Clint.

Matt:

Oh no. That's the worst when little ones are ill.

Joe:

Yeah, good luck.

Matt:

Luck, Joe.

Joe:

Shout out to all the subscribers of the show. Shout out to all the subscribers of the show.

Matt:

We'll see you next week. Good night, everybody.

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