Chasing Darkness: Episode 357 Aftershow

Ever watch a live auction go sideways because someone yelled “you stole that from me”? We dug into why a single word can sour the room and how sellers can flip the script with tone, structure, and real customer care. What started as a casual hang quickly turned into a sharp, useful guide for anyone selling gear online—and a reminder that communities are built on trust, not theatrics.

We kick off with a vulnerable moment: fresh MRI results and the kind of knee pain that wakes you up at night. One of our friends breaks down effusion, cysts near the ACL, and why pressure in a fixed joint can hurt more lying down than walking. Drainage brings relief, but recurring cysts often don’t quit without surgery. The takeaway is practical: get a hands-on exam, use the scan as a map, and build a short-term plan that keeps you moving. Golfers know this struggle—how to keep joy in the game while your body nags you to slow down.

Then it’s straight into Whatnot culture: how “steal” vs “deal” changes buyer psychology, why starting bids are the real risk control, and how loyalty grows when sellers fix mistakes fast instead of pushing them to support. We call out gambling-adjacent gimmicks like cup games that burn newcomers and tilt shows away from value. The better path? Transparent formats, mixed lots that keep interest high, and a tone that celebrates wins without shaming low closes. If you want a sustainable shop, skip the theatrics and show up like a pro.

Between the hot takes, we get back to the craft. Practice more than you play. Putt every day. Chipping and putting erase big misses and can turn a three-GIR round into a tidy 70s score. On sims, breaking 100 might be as simple as carrying fewer clubs and making fewer decisions. We share military course gems, RTJ Trail favorites, and the story of how this show started with an Instagram DM, a shared tee time, and some DIY gear that still gets the job done. We also pull back the curtain on our production: StreamYard for multi-track recording, why Zoom’s compression hurts audio, and what paid tiers actually buy you.

If you’re into golf, live selling, or just curious about how communities stay healthy online, this one’s packed with takeaways you can use today. Listen, share with a friend who hosts auctions, and tell us your rule for keeping buyer trust. And if you’re new here, hit follow, leave a review, and join us live on Tuesday nights. Your questions shape the next show.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Warm-Up Banter And Stream Moderation
• 6:30 MRI Results And Knee Pain Breakdown
• 13:45 Meniscus, Effusion, And Short-Term Fixes
• 19:30 Auction Language: “Steal” Versus “Deal”
• 26:40 Customer Service On Whatnot
• 32:50 Gambling Mechanics And Platform Policies
• 39:10 Golf Habits, Practice Priorities, And Putting
• 45:20 Military Courses, RTJ Trail, And Travel Golf
• 52:30 Careers, Side Hustles, And Golf Brands
• 58:20 Chasing Daylight Origins And Production Setup
• 1:04:40 Tech Frustrations And Stream Tools

Transcript

Warm-Up Banter And Stream Moderation

SPEAKER_10 0:00

Gotta be dark.

SPEAKER_05 0:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 0:07

Oh. Too dark. Chasing darkness. There we go.

Matt 0:14

A little zoom.

SPEAKER_10 0:16

Oh yeah, Jay.

SPEAKER_12 0:19

It was a red rocket.

Matt 0:22

Whoa. Little doggy red rocket.

SPEAKER_12 0:26

Yep. Red Rocket.

SPEAKER_10 0:28

Those comments were incredible, and I they really were.

SPEAKER_12 0:31

I was thinking about putting them in timeout or deleting and banning.

Matt 0:35

You should be able to.

SPEAKER_12 0:37

You can. I just didn't know if you wanted me to, but I would. Oh, absolutely. I'll be the moderator.

Matt 0:43

Yes. If I need to you can do that?

SPEAKER_12 0:46

Yeah.

Matt 0:47

If I need to make you the uh moderator.

SPEAKER_12 0:50

No, I I had the options. Okay. There's timeout and then there's like delete comments and ban. Nice. Which those are completely useless.

SPEAKER_10 0:58

So yeah.

Matt 1:01

They weren't doing anything to enhance. Wow. Not not a lot of news on those crazy comments.

Joe 1:11

Yeah.

Matt 1:11

Yeah. The streams have been doing really well of late, but that one did not. So interesting.

Joe 1:18

Golf is dead, bro. It is a weird time.

Matt 1:23

Yeah, but we're doing better than we ever have. Well not ever, but we're doing really well.

Joe 1:30

It's hard because it's Christmas and you know.

Matt 1:35

Yeah. Merry Christmas.

SPEAKER_10 1:39

Merry Christmas to you. Except if you also know where this is from. I can't see it completely.

Matt 1:56

What is it? Let me see.

SPEAKER_10 1:58

Uh-in?

Joe 2:01

Action. Yeah, action. Southern doors.

Matt 2:03

Southern Doors. Aken Southern Doors.

SPEAKER_10 2:07

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe 2:09

I would like to play that place again. We should probably take a trip. Yeah, they have a they have uh the range is now a par three course, right?

Matt 2:19

It's always been.

Joe 2:19

Yeah, and they have lights. No, what they have lights now, is what I was getting at.

Matt 2:24

Yeah. Yeah, it's always been that they like halfway through the day, they shut it down and burn this hat now. Guys are too kind.

SPEAKER_12 2:36

It's not enough. It's not enough for sure, but uh well, I hey.

Matt 2:40

I had uh a good conversation with Hendra, believe it or not, of all people. Oh really? Oh there we go.

SPEAKER_07 2:48

There he is.

Matt 2:50

Yes, he can't come on the mic or on the video.

Joe 2:54

The doctor himself. The doctor has entered the room.

Matt 2:59

Are you there, Mike?

Joe 3:00

Saving lives.

Matt 3:02

Maybe he's not.

SPEAKER_09 3:04

What's up, gentlemen?

SPEAKER_02 3:05

There's a mic.

SPEAKER_09 3:08

How are you doing, sir?

SPEAKER_02 3:09

My mic probably sucks. I'm on my phone.

SPEAKER_07 3:12

No, it sounds pretty good.

Matt 3:15

All is well.

SPEAKER_07 3:17

Did you appreciate your profile picture? He loves it. He loves it.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

For the record, I I don't think I've worn a white coat in nine years.

Matt 3:29

I don't even know the last time I seen a doctor in a white coat. That picture was so basic, I I had to spice it up a little.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

It was it was great, but uh yeah, no, COVID was on. I I can't stand wearing a white coat because it's kind of like wearing a suit jacket, it's just very restricting. Yeah, and uh I I haven't worn one because COVID said we have to stop spreading germs, um, so we didn't wear like long coats or anything, we just wear scrubs. Yeah, we need a scrubs pick then. Yeah, I'm sure Matt can figure something out.

SPEAKER_10 4:00

Oh, yeah, that's that's very easy. Yeah, that one's AI.

Matt 4:08

Oh that was uh before we started. I was that's who I was texting uh because I got my MRI results back.

Joe 4:18

Oh my god, how's the weather up there? I'm curious.

SPEAKER_02 4:22

Uh it's been about minus six for the past week. Brutal, and we have about two feet of snow on the ground.

SPEAKER_12 4:32

Oh, thank you. You have a garage, yeah. Yeah, that's good.

Matt 4:39

Yeah, so after reading my MRI, he sends me this.

Joe 4:47

Great FX show, great FX show.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

There was a little more empathy than that. Come on, man.

Matt 4:56

I said, How fucked am I? He's like, Oh, you're gonna have to join a biker gang, and he sends me that. Uh that's funny.

SPEAKER_10 5:03

So what no surgery, nothing like that.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Well, for the record, a few months ago I did say, uh, you sound like you have a medium meniscus tear.

Joe 5:13

See, yeah, don't listen to the doctor. See, I always gotta listen to the white coats, man.

Matt 5:18

Gotta listen to the white coats, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

It's that you need to figure out if that's from your because I don't radiologists don't typically uh pay any attention to the chart, they just look at the picture in front of them. So you need to ask if because that could just be from your last surgery.

Matt 5:32

Yeah, the and my old ortho told me, she goes, anytime you have an MRI going forward, it's gonna show that you have a meniscus tear.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

Okay, so that might be old.

Matt 5:42

Yeah, but then what's the hell is causing the pain now?

SPEAKER_02 5:44

Then well, you've got a bunch of fluid back in your knees, so that doesn't help anything.

Matt 5:50

That would cause the pain.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

Oh, I mean, your knee joint is a fixed space, and if you put a bunch of fluid in there and it causes a bunch of pressure, it pushes on everything. So, did you feel better when it was drained last time? Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Matt 6:05

And then it started hurting, you know. That was about three weeks later. As it got more swollen, no, that it's it's because I look at it all the time to see if it's swollen, especially on days that it's hurting. Like Sunday, I I could barely walk Sunday. It hurts so bad to just walk around the house.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

Well, your scan said you have a big effusion, so I mean that means you got a bunch of fluid in there.

MRI Results And Knee Pain Breakdown

Matt 6:29

Oh, is that what a large effusion is?

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Yeah, yeah, it means you got a bunch of fluid in your knee. Uh so is that something that but that could be a reaction from something else that's going on? Usually it is. I mean, you've got a big cyst that connects your posterior knee joint to your actual knee joint. That's that ganglionic cyst that they talked about, and it runs right along your ACL, which probably hurts a bit. Um, but you've also got a different cyst that is benign, but if it causes enough fluid in your knee, that's gonna be a chronic issue, too. So those cysts are hard because they continue to recur unless you actually surgically take the cyst out. Jesus. Yeah.

Matt 7:15

Yeah, this just this just reads old dude, old dude, old dude. Yeah, yeah. The impression that this is what it says complex tear of the medial meniscus as well as arthrosis with areas of cartilage loss in the medial and lateral compartments as described above. Ganglion cyst of the anterior crucial ligament. So I'm not quite micparsons.

SPEAKER_02 7:44

I mean, the good news is your ACL is intact. Yes. That's really good news.

SPEAKER_12 7:52

Just go get it drained again.

Matt 7:54

In the lateral compartment, there's a five millimeter to seven millimeter chondral defect at the medial margin of the lateral tibial plateau. What's that mean?

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Chondral just means cartilage. That's arthritic change. Most of your pain is most of your pain on the inside or your outside of your kneemat? Uh it's on the inside. Yeah, that's the medial meniscus, then.

Matt 8:22

Yeah, it's on it's on the inside. And like it what's it's so weird because like laying and because I'll you would think laying down, you know, being off my leg would feel better. But when I'm laying down and if I turn over or roll in bed or like adjust my knee in any way, when going from it being extended to any kind of flexion, it just it it wakes me up. The the pain is so bad.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

Well, and that's why I think the fluid in your knee is affecting things because usually if it's a if it's an architectural issue, then like weight bearing is much worse. But if it's not, if it's not like based on gravity, then it's just a pressure issue in your knee. So I think just draining it will probably help it feel better. Now that's going to be temporary. So I mean, you probably need to see your orthopod again and see what they think about your MRI now that it's back, and he can examine they they can examine you again and twist your knee around and look up uh look up McMurray's exam on YouTube and think about how that would deal.

Matt 9:29

McMurray exam?

Joe 9:31

Yeah, all right. All right, we got Bush, we got ambush quad sevens as I call them, and I'm assuming Blondie does it as uh Davey does it.

SPEAKER_11 9:43

No, it's Ranger, but I'm in the shower.

Joe 9:45

I thought it was gonna be something I thought it was gonna be something cool, and y'all over here in the fucking podcast and shit. Hey, put your camera on, bro. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_06 9:57

You did it.

SPEAKER_04 9:59

Oh man.

SPEAKER_11 10:01

Oh, Ranger. I'm the best golfer of the group, by the way.

SPEAKER_06 10:08

Definitely not. I've seen too many videos.

Joe 10:11

Uh so did you you guys listen to the whole episode, right? Was my take on on whatnot accurate or not?

SPEAKER_11 10:21

Uh I think so.

SPEAKER_10 10:27

More and more can get kind of crazy.

Matt 10:29

Oh, that's fine. This is great. Yeah, this is great. I love this. I don't know how many more we can fit, but we'll see.

Joe 10:35

Bush, what do you think? Go for it, Bush. UPS UPS is a good one.

SPEAKER_06 10:39

I missed I missed that part. I got in towards the end.

unknown 10:44

Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_06 10:45

So you had to repeat it.

SPEAKER_11 10:47

Yeah, I was about to say, what did you say? Refresh it, dude.

Joe 10:50

I I mean, I I was talking about being real, you know, and not like catering and not basically what I said was the main point of the argument was not yelling at people that steal from you.

SPEAKER_06 11:04

For sure. Yeah, we know a lot of those.

Matt 11:09

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 11:10

Damn, everybody's here.

Matt 11:12

I love this. I mean, Joe, I think on FaceTime.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

Joe, I think as a as a buyer, you know, I I don't host any any whatnot shows, but I think as a buyer, the term steal is it is inherently a little bit caustic to buyers. Like you're inferring that we're stealing from you, but you're putting something on auction that we can bid on.

unknown 11:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

And then if we win, we're called stealers because someone else didn't, you know, I that's a little bit abrasive to someone who's purchasing something from you, you know what I mean?

Joe 11:43

No, yeah, I I I I get what you're saying there.

Matt 11:46

Well, I think the term steal comes from somebody got a good deal.

Joe 11:50

It's a good deal.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

And and that and that's dependent on the tone and the you know, yeah, clearly. Um, but I guess the my point earlier was when people are following people stealing, it's not in the it's not in the term of like, oh, you gotta steal on that one. It's like, oh, you're stealing from me. I'm not making money, guys.

Joe 12:10

Before you go too crazy, let me let you know who you're talking about. Okay, my Marcus, Marcus, one second. Uh that is beautiful golf courses. How many? I don't even know how many followers you have on Instagram now. Uh 250. What are you up to, Mike?

SPEAKER_02 12:28

Uh yeah, around there, probably. I don't know.

Joe 12:31

So he is he is very influential in golf Instagram. So I just want to preface this. You're talking, he's a buyer, and uh just I just want to throw that out there so so you know who you're talking to, okay. And you could say whatever you want.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

Mike's a good guy, he won't judge or anything, but just so you know, and I'm not trying to insult anyone, I'm just saying as my as my stance as a buyer, this is growth, right?

Joe 12:58

And this is how we there's Davey, Davy.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

Man, bro, there's Davy be doing it. 10 people in here. What is going on here?

Matt 13:14

So apparently 10 is the max.

Joe 13:18

So, so uh Mike, say it again because Dave Davy, I know Davy gets it. So you say what you said again, and then these guys can talk about it.

Meniscus, Effusion, And Short-Term Fixes

SPEAKER_02 13:29

I uh I guess I just I'm just saying that um as a buyer on whatnot, um you know it it it's uh I don't know if disheartening or distasteful or whatever is the is the right word for it. But when when sellers you know crucify their buyers for quote unquote stealing from them because they put something up for auction and they get a good price on it, and then nobody else bids and they win, that's not a great way to sell things if you're gonna tear into people after they win something because it's a good price.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Yeah, you can't hear him.

Joe 14:08

You can't hear him. So can you hear me? Yeah, so what he's saying is is like it he's saying that when you say that was a steal, it sounds like you're you're you're stealing from someone, you know, like you're taking money out of their pocket. But when all actuality, what we mean is it's a deal.

SPEAKER_12 14:31

But I think I think there's two like tones.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

You we got a good deal. It's normal common knowledge of like just learning like the new phrases and the new terminology of people nowadays. That's all. But I don't I don't think me wrong, we get robbed all the time. I don't people know that there's clubs on there that are worth however much, and you see big sellers lose them every time. Like there's no it also depends on this the seller. I'll tell you right now, there's sellers that take it on the chin and don't even act like they got hit with a steal. Or yeah, that's awesome. Good pickup. Put it to the side, move on to the next right area.

Joe 15:14

And also that's what I was saying earlier was that I have a mic setup, that's my bad.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

Or who keeps talking about?

Joe 15:26

That's what I was saying, is is like as a buyer and a seller, everybody's taking a risk, you know. And I think I think maybe we could do a a better job at saying like not like you know, uh I've I've said that was a steal. You stole from me. I've said that before. And then the dude was like, no, just cancel the order. I'm like, no, bro, like you know, yeah, and that might just be misconstrued in the in the way it's said, or like you said, Davy, like but we we put it out there, you know what I mean? Like, and that's on us, and we trust the buyer to swipe or purchase it, you know, it's it's it's like a contract.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

I'd say, you know, it comes down to what the seller wants to do. If you want to start it at a dollar, go right ahead. But if you want the value of the product, you can sit there for an hour and you could run it over and over again, and someone there's thousands of people going through this half a day. Someone's gonna see it and want it at that price or ask for ten dollars less. You're it's on the seller to want to get robbed or not. It's a lot of people love to go on this whole fight, like they like to blame a buyer. There's no point to blame a buyer anytime during a show. There's no reason to either fight at them, yell at them, complain. You run the show, you click the buttons, you know what's coming next.

Joe 17:00

Yeah, yeah, 100%. I agree with you.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

But I get it there, yeah, I understand where he's coming from. It's annoying to hear it. I hate when like some sellers they're weird when you buy, they're a little odd about it, they don't give you like there's sellers that only tell that if they don't like you, they won't even say good pickup, good purchase, they'll just on to the next one.

Joe 17:33

It's navigating, you have to navigate the app, thing. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_12 17:38

So, do you guys think because whatnot kind of exploded, do you guys think there's any value in like providing good customer service, or do you think whatnot's not like that? Like it's a not a different, it's a different atmosphere. And I'm also a buyer, I'm not a seller. I and I'm not on there anymore either. But do you think that's just a different environment where there's there no one values good customer service? It's all about getting something for as cheap as possible, or no, I it customer service is huge.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

Is there a reason I'm not hearing him? I don't know. I'm missing out on like two people, I think, talking.

Joe 18:16

So what he said was is do you think that customer service is bad on whatnot? And and and I think that's where people get tripped up, right? It's so if you don't have good customer service, people aren't gonna come back. So people people disregard the service because in in the the face of quick cash, and that's a problem.

Auction Language: “Steal” Versus “Deal”

SPEAKER_00 18:42

So going along customer service uh comes to the seller to uh the buyer too. And that's I almost say that customer service depends on if it's a new seller or it's someone who actually cares that someone just spent their money and there's trust involved with their money. And then there's there's a point where it's the buyer doesn't care, the buyer's ready to put the review, not reach out, like all it takes is communicate. Like every problem I've dealt with in the world lately comes down to one answer, and that's just talking about communication and buyer and seller communication is so misconstrued on the app a lot of the times. And you'll see half the people don't you'll see sellers who I guess you would say they look over it. They they don't like the follower giveaways you can, for instance, like some people won't even if they watch they won't even resend. There's no resend, there's no we're gonna we're gonna double up on this order or something like that. A lot of people will just let whatnot handle the customer support. And that's and that is a problem, is leaning, letting whatnot, oh, just just set a cancellation and do with this through whatnot and Bellground. When you do that, that's when you lose your spires. If you don't actually make it right, like I had someone a ball marker, I made sure, oh, they were in my show this time, they bought again, or I replaced the label and you figure it out for them. You have to because there has to be a relationship.

Joe 20:38

Yeah, absolutely. See, J.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

We're live. We're live. We're live. I'm looking at like just like this. I'm here to talk to all y'all and hear everyone's perspective. And that's the same as if I'm selling to you a sleeve of balls. Hey, you want to buy a sleeve of balls? You want to write the review and let me know that that was the best sleeve of balls you ever bought? I'm happy that it was. Like, I'll go read those reviews. I would love to know. Like, I'm not making them, but I got them into your hand somehow, and I'm happy that I made that I made that happiness come out of you because of that sleeve. Like, that's just the example of it.

SPEAKER_06 21:16

That was the best sleeve tonight.

Joe 21:20

I think that's one of those things, though, honestly. It's like and I think for the newcomers, like it's their first time jumping on, right? Who do they watch? And they can they could have a bad experience, they can have a great experience. And it's like it takes a certain threshold to where well you might have to spend some time and figure out who to trust, who you who you want to support, and that's the thing. If you can get over that threshold, whatnot is awesome, right? There's certain people I watch, there's certain people I support, there's certain people I don't. And it's it if you have a bad experience off the bat, you might never come back. And I think that might be the reason where it's like, oh fuck, whatnot's a scam. But if you watch the right people and you take the time to learn it, navigate the app and understand who is there, and you find your people, right? Exactly. Yeah, and that's that's what sucks about society that's asking about how do I hear sellers?

SPEAKER_00 22:24

How do I hear everyone? So you can't hear me right now. I don't know. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 22:30

That's probably coming. Do you think it's yeah, mine kept going out?

SPEAKER_00 22:35

Oh, probably in north like five times. Can you hear this mic now? I can hear you.

Joe 22:41

They can hear you.

SPEAKER_00 22:42

You can't someone just said, Yeah, hang on. I think I figured it out.

Joe 22:45

Can you hear me now? I'm trying to hear people. All right, I think I'm good. Oh, you turned you had it turned all the way down. You had it muted, Davy. Davey doesn't always do it.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

No, maybe I have to check. Because why would I not be able to hear everyone?

SPEAKER_01 23:04

See, the biggest problem is you have all these new buyers. You have a lot of new buyers coming in constantly, which is fine. That's great, it's great for the app. But then when you get when you see like all these people running, like you see all these people running, all these people running sleeves of balls. It's like it leaves a bad taste in a lot of those new buyers now. Or just one ball, or just one ball, I mean, or a fee. And they're they're like, this is a golf community, they sell golf sleeves of balls, that's it, you know, and that that just drives people insane. And that's they buy one time because they're okay. Let me try, let me see if I win. And then they don't win, and boom, you just you just lost a seller for five to seven different other sellers, or you're also choosing buyers because they they just purchased the$30 new involved that they really didn't want. And then that's but like they got small, and they felt like they didn't get value for their money.

Matt 24:11

But they chose to do that though, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:13

I mean, the way we work, but that's what I'm saying. Like it's the the let's say that's the first show they get into, and that's all they that's all they're gonna, that's all they're gonna know. Then I think the whole app of golf is that way. Are we gonna sell sleeve a balls and and give give a putter away at the end?

Joe 24:37

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 24:39

I talked to mix it up. Like I like how I like people that just run different items, you know. That way, if you want a sleeve of balls, you can get a sleeve ball. If you want a divot tool, you or a tease, or I hate like the ones that do just straight T's for or just straight whatever, you know. I like how three units all of us, all of us run different things all the time. We don't run just one thing constantly. No, we move on to the another thing, and we might not have like something super awesome, but we also start at a dollar and run it, and you know, you might get a head cover, you might get a sleeve balls, you might get some teas or a club or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I hate getting into the ones that are just like straight 30 spots,$30 balls, straight 30 spots, straight teas. You know, I want to at least buy something, you know.

Joe 25:40

I'm saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it I mean, so you it you guys know me. My name is Joe from Hitting Greens, also from Chasing Day. Hey Joe.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

Are you an alcoholic too?

Joe 25:56

Oh, I'm in the wrong meeting. I'm in the wrong meeting. So so Matt Matt cleared out his garage. I sold a bunch of Matt stuff. Dan spent a lot of money on whatnot. Jeremy did too.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

So you see the cactus, huh?

Joe 26:14

Yeah, and they're they're not on anymore.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Why I don't blame you. I mean, because it doesn't last long into a gambling machine. It's turning into Vegas, Vegas on Vegas on wheels, basically on the net.

Joe 26:28

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

There we go.

Joe 26:29

The gamble, the gambling thing is what's the problem. That's why I'm not there anymore. Yeah, it's the gambling thing.

Customer Service On Whatnot

SPEAKER_00 26:37

And I'll tell you right now, I'm it's about I think the new thing is. One two words. It's the two words that listen. Uh Joe's right, and Joe said it before. Stop, speaking. You get rid of it.

SPEAKER_06 27:03

You get rid of it. We can't hear you, Davey. Oh, I think we can hear you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry.

Joe 27:13

All I heard was Joe's right. Joe's right. That's what you said.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

That's all you needed to hear. That's all you need to do. Because Joe, Joe has the right opinion. Joe's right. Blah blah blah blah blah.

Joe 27:26

Yeah. Joe's right.

Matt 27:33

What not gonna they would be wise to change that and and get rid of that aspect of it. And you know, now that it's now that it's driving people to purchase and it's driving people to sell, they can get rid of that feature. In my opinion, it's if you want people to engage and grow and learn and and be part of the community that they're touting, they can strip that, in my opinion. And I think it would only benefit them.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

Yeah. But I'm at the same time, it the sellers, and I'm gonna be honest, they probably they they'd find a way around it.

Matt 28:13

Oh, yeah, you could still do it, it's just not automated.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Yeah, not automated, but unfortunately, they would still put that's how a seller would push their stuff. Like that's still a new thing. Oh, yeah. The cups, have y'all seen that? That's a new thing on one night, is filling cups with random items.

SPEAKER_00 28:34

Someone joined, I haven't seen that. I lost all audio.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Yeah, there's that's a that's a new uh thing. There's two or three sellers starting to do that. They put random items in a cup on a piece of paper, and then you pick a cup, and whatever's in the cup is what you win. Wow. But that's that's true. Yeah, those those are the things that you clips of paper in there.

Joe 29:01

They're they're gonna start booking people, like they're gonna start kicking people for shit like that. They have to, they have to. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Yep, there's no way that that can be regulated in uh a piece of paper in a cup, you know?

Joe 29:17

Yeah, or even in in um, I know I know uh ranger loves when uh widows and wids be yelling and be upset about a price on something, or even coastal claws, like and snapping clubs over his head, you know what I mean? Like it's he did that, it's yeah, yeah, he does it all.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

And then he and then he would ship it, and then he'd ship it to them.

unknown 29:41

The issue.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Yeah, he never sends his Gibby. He probably he likes losing free money basically.

Joe 29:49

That's why I'm telling you, you gotta follow the right people, and and you have to take time because there's there's scam artists out there for sure.

Matt 29:57

Oh, absolutely, definitely is so look at what was that guy that got rated that was the biggest seller on that was selling make a little boo-boo tool kicks.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

Yeah, yeah. He was free of his charges, though. It's so crazy that I can't. Yeah, he's he's back. That chat that he when he came on, how many was it? There was over 10,000 people in his chat. Wow on his first show back, and he was selling shit out like instantly, like within a second or two.

SPEAKER_05 30:27

He put it on back to them.

SPEAKER_00 30:30

All the laughs, I can't hear nothing. I'm in a silent movie.

Matt 30:35

That sucks.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

We can hear we can hear Ranger laughs.

Joe 30:37

Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah, yeah, we can hear we can hear everybody.

SPEAKER_10 30:41

It's weird, yeah.

Joe 30:43

You guys need to upgrade your podcast situation, is what you need to do. No, I haven't had that many people in here, so yeah. This is the first time. So thank you guys for the test out. Awesome.

Matt 30:57

Yeah, it's a test.

SPEAKER_06 30:59

Yeah. Oh, I think are y'all all playing in the tournament.

Joe 31:05

What's wrong with Ranger? Me and Dan are me and Dan. Jeremy was going to, but he can't make it.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

I follow all four of them. I can't hear none of them, but I follow all four of them on Instagram and make sure to do that. Glaze them. Hey, hey, appreciate that. Ranger, you ain't gonna talk anything. You keep saying glaze them every time you get into a conversation with people. The teacher right now, I'm gonna teach you. Glaze same glaze the four people who are talking golf every day. I don't think they want to hear it.

Joe 31:36

No, seriously, guys, we we care about the the people that love golf and want to get it. I can only hear me the Ranger. And that's the thing.

SPEAKER_11 31:45

I'm the best golfer here, so it don't even matter. The best golfer, the fastest shipper. Oh, he's the yep, fastest shipper, exactly. He's the lowest shipper, but not superman. They would know. You have a buffer mean you get it next day air. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_10 32:02

Next day air.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

Ray, Ray only found out about our secret place because we told him about it. We ship straight to the airport. I'm on the tarmac right after my show. No, you're on the tarmac after us because we've been going there since day one.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

I'm gonna leave guys come back again, I guess, and see if it just gives me everyone's audio.

Joe 32:23

Okay, I can't it it did. Uh do you guys like are you guys how long have you guys played golf for?

SPEAKER_01 32:29

I've been playing since I was like six. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 32:34

Ranger. I played in high school and then I stopped for a little bit. And I was in the military, so I played a little bit more and I stopped because I was playing competitive softball, and then I just picked it back up like two years ago. But I'm a fucking stick.

Joe 32:54

He watched it. He watched it. 8.5.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

Everyone again, we're back.

Joe 32:59

Rixie Boys, Rixie Boys.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

Ranger, what's your hand?

Joe 33:06

8.5 in house up knee.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

Hey Ranger, Ranger, when you were in the service, what uh base were you at? Did you have a military golf course?

SPEAKER_11 33:20

Did you have a course on base or no? Yeah, Fort Sam has two, Lackman has one, Randolph has one. So I mean it played all over San Antonio. It's the cheapest, it's the cheapest um greens to play at. You know, the city ones are like the city ones are like 60 bucks, and then you go play at Fort Sam. And I think I played last Tuesday and I paid like 10 bucks.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Yeah, my cousin was stationed out in Hawaii at uh Kaneoe Bay and the with the Marines, and he said that he played it for like ten dollars, and it was like cheap 300 bucks per tourist.

SPEAKER_11 33:54

It's cheap. And then kids play free. Anybody under 18, they get to play for free.

SPEAKER_10 34:00

So I take my son, he's 14, and he sucks, but he he plays that should be that should be like a thing nationwide. Juniors are free. Absolutely. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Joe 34:10

Yeah, uh, like under you guys gonna help me break 100 or what?

SPEAKER_07 34:14

We can. You're going to with those tricks these boys. No, we can get bigger pants, you might.

Joe 34:21

Ranger, you know, there's there's a couple plus handicaps in this chat. Yeah, you got 34 inch ends, team.

SPEAKER_11 34:27

It's not too bad. If I'm looking at y'all, Jeremy looks like the best golfer. You'd be wrong.

Matt 34:34

You'd be wrong. He's always all Jeremy is a fantastic golfer. Yeah, Jeremy's all fantastic golfer. Dan, Dan is a ball.

SPEAKER_11 34:46

Dan's got the chill vibes, like that's the killer right there.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

Yeah, Dan is that's why hitting greens is hitting greens right there.

Joe 34:56

Because these guys hit greens and I learned from them, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 35:01

Oh, so now I just can't hear Joe. Nice.

SPEAKER_10 35:05

What is going on with that? That it's so it's weird.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

I think it's just a new iPhone update. The new iPhone update, Apple, has ruined everyone's phones.

Matt 35:16

I've heard of the 262, the new one.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Yeah, it put glass mode or something on the phones, and with FaceTimes, it heats it up. There's now I can hear that. What do you got? I got the new I got the like 14 or 15. I thought it would help, but guess what they're on 17 or something like that.

SPEAKER_11 35:39

You gotta get the new one.

SPEAKER_12 35:41

New one is legit. Yeah, they do it on purpose.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

How big a bar is how big is your clock? No, the clock. Oh, I thought it is pretty big, right?

SPEAKER_06 35:51

Yeah, it changes. Is that a 17?

SPEAKER_11 35:53

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 35:54

Yeah, that's sweet.

SPEAKER_11 35:55

That's what I got. Six Max Pro Plus or whatever the fuck, that's what I got.

Matt 36:00

I got different different golf scenes on every time it opens back.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

All right, so I have a question for you guys. Yeah, shoot. How many times do you guys golf a week?

SPEAKER_12 36:12

Enough. Practice more than play.

Matt 36:16

Yeah, practice more than play. And then when during the fitting season and when like the days are longer after when daylight savings kicks in, I'll play two, two, maybe three times a week because we'll play after we're done fitting.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Okay. Matt, how many days a week are you out back putting?

Matt 36:35

Uh seven.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

Yeah, every day. Every day, every day. Exactly.

Matt 36:40

Yep. I putt every day.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

I played with Matt at Cascada, and he did not sniff a three putt. He probably had 22 putts in the round. Guy was insane.

Joe 36:49

Look how happy he is right now.

SPEAKER_10 36:52

His pleasure.

Matt 36:53

I'm very cool with my putting. I work hard at it.

Joe 36:56

He does. He does.

Matt 36:57

That's my goal.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

Flowers are deserved for Nevada. Flowers are deserved. That's awesome. Yeah. He uh my goal is to just start as like just to hone in on this game now. Really do it, bro.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

Sit back and that's the biggest place you can you can shape some strokes is the putting green. All right, that that's my personal opinion. I mean, absolutely if you can put all day long.

Joe 37:23

Yeah, chipping and putting. It's 100% accurate. 100% accurate.

Matt 37:29

Yeah, I hit three greens at Pie Ute, shot a 79, had 25 putts because I chip it close and make putts.

SPEAKER_00 37:35

So someone told me a crazy story. So I shot a 98 on the sim Sunday, okay? And I was broken it down in the craziest term ever. He said if you hit your putter however many times, 6,600 yards, and you were able to dribble it, whatever, you're still able to break 100. Yeah, you could still break 100 on a sim with just a putter. And he put that into perspective for me. Like, you can simplify the game so much. And like I went out there with I don't have an iron set. I'm using a hybrid, four wedges, and a and a putter and the sim. And it's like you take away so much when you use very little. And I learned that over the weekend. I you when you talk about your game and you try to change it, that's what you're saying with the practice part as I'm learning now. Is you do all that back behind the scenes, you do that on your own time on the shipping mats or wherever you're gonna do it, whatever practice. Once you get on the course and you're swinging, just play.

Joe 38:47

Yeah, let go, let go.

Matt 38:49

That's my hardest task.

Golf Habits, Practice Priorities, And Putting

Joe 38:52

Also, the mental, the mental, and that's why Matt Matt's a mental head case, you know. Like you gotta get out of your head and just feel it. I'm getting better, but yeah, I'm as erratic as you are mentally. He's getting better, as erratic as you are mentally. Yeah, that's what I said on a podcast one as erratic as you are mentally. But it's it's true. It's true.

SPEAKER_00 39:12

I play my best golf when I'm just three. My phone's gonna die, and I don't want to keep interrupting because I only hear half of y'all. But when I get this to work, I would I'll pick your brains for hours because you guys need to iPhone is needed. Yeah, I know you would. I'm going watch, we're gonna watch it. We're gonna watch it in real time from 100. I'm hitting the 80s by the by the summer.

Joe 39:38

It's he's got a new set of short irons coming.

SPEAKER_09 39:44

Work that short game, dude. Work that short game.

SPEAKER_11 39:48

Can't hear nobody now.

SPEAKER_10 39:52

You can't hear us at all.

SPEAKER_07 39:56

Ranger, what you got? What you got, Ranger? Can you hear us, Mike? Yeah, I can hear you guys.

SPEAKER_05 40:04

I was wondering what happened.

SPEAKER_07 40:05

How about you, Bush? Can you hear us? Oh Bushy.

Joe 40:11

I'm here. Oh, you're there? Okay. You know, you know, Bush lives right next to the RTJ Trail.

Matt 40:17

Which one?

Joe 40:18

Really? Oh no shit.

SPEAKER_06 40:20

Uh yeah, I'm uh around the Highlands. Where's that? Well I live like right on the Georgia and Alabama border in Dozen, Alabama. Is it by Montgomery? South of Montgomery, yeah. Okay. You know what I mean? Montgomery is the hotspot for like three of those courses, isn't it? Yeah. Montgomery's got the uh probably Montgomery, Birmingham, and Auburn have the top three. I think Birmingham has the one that everybody talks about, the uh Ross Bridge. Yeah. Um and then the one in Mobile is pretty good. I've played the Silver Lakes up in Silver Lakes, yeah. The uh and then what's what's the one in the one in Montgomery's pretty good too, but it's the judge? Is that the judge? The judge, I think so. Yeah. Ours is uh three nine holes and a par three nine hole. So you alternate the nines, and then we usually play the par three after. Are you further south than Oxford? Yeah, I'm like literally on the Florida and Georgia lines. Andalusia. Andalusia, yeah, south of there.

Matt 41:31

So you're close to like Gulf Shores.

SPEAKER_06 41:33

On the opposite side.

Matt 41:35

Opposite side. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:37

So I'm right on the Georgia line. Like I go 15 minutes that way, I'm in Georgia. About 30 minutes that way, I'm in Florida.

Joe 41:47

There's a great golf course coming your way soon.

SPEAKER_06 41:51

I know we're gonna have to go play it. Yeah, let's go. I don't think it was, I don't think it's that far at all.

Matt 41:59

No, it's it's in the panhandle, it's middle of nowhere, the panhandle, too.

SPEAKER_06 42:03

Right by you. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm right here. I mean, all the hurricanes hit us just like they do pretty much Panama City. I'm like an hour and a half from Panama City, probably. Shout out UPS. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:22

I'll tell you that.

Matt 42:26

Oh I've had some problems with UPS.

SPEAKER_12 42:33

UPS has been the best one, I think. Some places are better than others. Ups is the best one.

Matt 42:37

Yeah, it all depends on I mean it's the hub. It's not the company. It's sometimes it's yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:45

Yeah, we're how far it has to go, if it's ground or air or whatever it is, you know. Yeah, we're definitely faster as long as you know you do it right and you know, packing stuff right is the key for sure. Yeah.

Matt 43:03

Mike, you're in here twice. How are you in here twice?

Joe 43:06

Damn, we've been on 43 minutes already. Crazy.

SPEAKER_09 43:11

I'm not sure that how that happened.

Matt 43:13

I'm gonna kick this one. You tell me if you're still here. Are you still here? Still here. There he is.

SPEAKER_09 43:26

Yeah, we're still here.

Matt 43:28

Yeah, you're good.

SPEAKER_09 43:29

Go seek on the code if you want.

Matt 43:35

Who are you talking to?

Joe 43:38

Sorry, guys. Bush is gonna be here in February, Dan.

SPEAKER_10 43:44

Oh nice, you're gonna come play in the tournament?

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Yeah, how do you get the invite to play in a VGN tournament?

Matt 43:54

You gotta know someone or what? This is a whatnot tournament. Anytime you want to play in a VGN tournament, you just let me know. Yeah.

Joe 44:01

Yep. Yeah. Ranger. Um, but yeah, I'm super stoked for that. I can't wait for February.

Matt 44:10

How many people are in it so far?

Joe 44:12

Do you know Bush? Bush is birdie gang, so he looks frozen.

SPEAKER_10 44:18

He looks totally frozen. Yeah, he is. Okay.

Joe 44:21

Ranger, are you birdie gang or no?

SPEAKER_10 44:23

He's really good at staring contests.

SPEAKER_11 44:25

No, negative. I'm Mexican.

Joe 44:28

Yeah, getcha. Viva la raza. Um, I I don't know, but there's there's a lot of the fucking grip.

SPEAKER_11 44:41

That's the Italian grip. No, it depends on which way you flip it.

SPEAKER_09 44:47

Matt holds up the Hispanic plague. Uh you miss a grip. Immediately part of the crew. Immediately part of the crew.

Joe 44:57

Are you coming? Are you coming in February or no?

SPEAKER_11 45:00

No, man. I haven't I've I haven't had a job in like six months, so yeah. It's been rough. But I mean, I had a couple interviews this week, so hopefully something turns up.

Matt 45:11

Are you doing what not full time right now?

Military Courses, RTJ Trail, And Travel Golf

SPEAKER_11 45:13

See what happens, but not yet. I'll lie about that often. And then uh I used to, man. I used to, and like I said, I lost my job and it's it went from like every week to every two weeks to once a month, and I I just partnered up with uh Parling Golf. I don't know if y'all seen him on TikTok or Instagram. Um so I just started selling a lot of their accessories. Uh he's a cool dude, man, honestly. Uh young cat. Um he he was actually in San Antonio. Well, he was in Austin for some like truck review or something because uh he's a car salesman. So they were showing him about the car and stuff, and uh it was weird. He just texted me out of the blue and was like, Hey, aren't you in San Antonio? He's like, Yeah, I'm meeting with one of uh the stores I have out there. Well, he doesn't have a store out there, he's partnered with the store here in San Antonio.

SPEAKER_04 46:01

Oh Jesus here.

SPEAKER_11 46:04

Oh god.

Joe 46:05

All right, we get we might have to end this. My coach is actually yeah, but but that's the thing, bro. You need you need like a partner like that to like actually get it going, you know. So congrats to you, man. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_11 46:19

No, yeah, I appreciate it. It's like I said, I'm running on his stuff, and then I'm pretty sure once I get my job back, like get a job, steady income, and I'll be fine supplementing the way I used to supplement myself. Like, and I've always like been the one that if I bought an app, I'm not selling it on the app, I'll sell it on marketplace or I'll sell it somewhere else, or I use it myself. Now that I'm kind of like now I wouldn't say bigger, but I have my own brand, like I don't really want to buy people's stuff that I don't fuck with. Like I'll buy Bush's hat, Hidden Greens hat, somebody's hat that I mess with, but like when I'm out, I wear this hat like every fucking day.

Joe 46:55

Like I wear a hidden greens hat every day.

SPEAKER_11 46:57

I know just to pull my stuff.

SPEAKER_06 47:01

My hats will be in this week, I think.

Joe 47:03

The real ones actually I got I got rid of all the shank it uh towels, the all the accessories that are hanging on my my bag besides the bag is all my my towels or my my ball marker, and yeah, I gotta one of those things too is like I mean I I mean I met Matt who started the podcast the first what three episodes or something like that because I had I started Instagram hitting greens and I started a brand in I mean it's not a brand, right? Like I like to call it a brand, but it's not a fucking brand. I don't got look books, but in 2018-19.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

Can we review the chasing daylight uh origins? How you guys all met?

Joe 47:50

If you want to, I'd love to.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

I haven't heard the story.

Matt 47:54

You haven't heard the story? Yeah, so uh Ryan Hardenbrook, uh, he is now on Instagram as the cigar dawn. Yeah, uh he was in Vegas, and we connected via Instagram and uh mutual connection, love of golf, and uh just started hanging out a lot, uh, spent a lot of time on the golf course. Uh went to the PGA show one time with them, and uh I had the breakfast ball only. I was writing uh reviews.

SPEAKER_09 48:24

Shout out breakfast ball.

Matt 48:25

Yeah, shout out breakfast ball. And uh, you know, Ryan joined uh me and JT, and um then JT left, and it was just me and Ryan, and uh I called him up one day and I said, Hey, I'm headed to Revere, uh gonna go chase some daylight, you want to come? And he's like, No, but that's a great name for a podcast. And uh I said, Yeah, you know what, it kind of is. And so one day we just sat down with a condenser mic, uh, audio uh yeah, the early episodes were rough. Yeah, well, actually, some of them sound really good. It's I was listening last night, they're like, wow, that actually sounds really good. Uh yeah, it was just an audio interface, a mic, and a laptop, and we recorded a couple episodes, and uh I was hooked like that. I mean, it it grabbed me and was like, this is gonna be fun. Um and uh so then when Ryan moved away, I needed to I needed somebody else to do it with because I'm like, no one's gonna listen to me ramble by myself. I need somebody else to ramble with. And uh sorry I reached out to Joe and asked Joe if he wanted to join. And uh he said, yeah, sure. And so me and him started doing a weekly show because that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to do a weekly show, and Ryan just couldn't commit to doing it every week because he's a busy man.

SPEAKER_09 49:56

And uh did you did you know Joe before this, Matt? Yeah, how'd you how'd you find Joe?

Matt 50:01

Yeah, uh Joe and I connected through Instagram, and uh we had just started hanging out playing golf occasionally here and there, and then I invited him up one night when I had uh Dave Roden, Julian, uh Brian Golf, Ryan, myself, and we all just had a round table. And uh then when Ryan left, I I was like I love Joe's vibe and uh thought hey, he would be a great person to do this with, and so he hopped on. Um and then Jeremy uh was you know just hanging out with us playing golf. Um and uh we brought him on just uh have another perspective. Yeah, there was never a plan to have add more people and bring in more people.

Careers, Side Hustles, And Golf Brands

Joe 50:50

I think I think we're ignoring a few things. And T Lou and Bush, you guys don't have to stick around. I know you you're listening to the origins of what has transpired over the last seven years. I thank you guys for being here. And I this might be boring to you, so I just want to let you know. No, that's cool. All right. That's cool. What am I leaving out? Uh so how I met Matt was v Instagram. I was posting pictures of golf courses, and there's this fucking dude, Breakfast Ball golf blog. And uh I was like, Are you gonna be at Shriner's? The PGA tournament in Vegas. And uh I went there, I had a bet on Kevin Na, who won that year. I think I put 10 bucks on him, I won like 600 bucks. Uh, but I saw the Breakfast Ball golf blog logo and I tapped him on the shoulder. Like, yo, are you Matt? I talked to you on Instagram, and then that's how we connected. Yeah, that's how we connected, and then uh one one week, like I follow everybody on Instagram, right? So they had Brian Golf coming and uh Matt asked if I wanted to go up. I was a big Ginner golfer at the time eight years ago, and uh I was honestly I was super fucking nervous. It was Julian, Rodin, Hardenbrook, Matt, Brian Golf, and uh David Golf. I was there, yeah, and I was Ava was there, yeah. I remember like asking the dumb, stupid, you know, beginner golfer questions, and we recorded it. And you can go listen to that still. Yeah, you can hear me being a beginner golfer eight years ago on Apple or Spotify. And uh we were in Matt's backyard, and uh yeah, and then I became entrenched to the game, became a nerd, and uh Ryan left, he moved to Florida, and uh yeah, and then we jumped on. And I this is during COVID, so I was able to go up there and do the podcast every week. Now we do it, now we do it this way, but uh back in the day we'd be in the same spot.

Matt 53:01

Yeah, it was January 13th of 2020 when that episode aired. That's crazy, right? Wow, yeah.

Joe 53:09

I was nervous, I was like, I told my wife, I'm like, hey, uh they guys want me on this podcast, and uh I it's a golf podcast, I gotta go up there, and yeah, it's crazy.

Matt 53:22

That was episode 21, that's how long ago that was.

Joe 53:25

Yeah, yeah, wild. Now we're on episode 357.

Matt 53:31

Yeah, and Joe officially joined his first episode, it was 48. Um that was July 29th, and then Jeremy came on September 30th of 2020. That was episode 60.

SPEAKER_09 53:49

Yeah, Matt, can you see what episode you had us on for the first time? Because that probably wasn't that far off.

Joe 53:54

No, you're like 80.

SPEAKER_02 53:56

Uh, let's see.

SPEAKER_09 53:58

I think it was 2021 or 2020.

Joe 54:00

It was one of the who said that in there, uh, but yeah, Ranger, like you said, yeah. Ranger, uh, I'm in a group chat with all these guys, right? So Ranger said, Yeah, shit, low key is badass. We need so he doesn't like spreading his emotions, I can tell, but that's what he said. Chasing Daylight Park ass is low-key badass. We need something like that, and and we're golfers, so we're gonna talk this shit anyway. Might as well record it, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_09 54:27

Yeah, yeah, it is cool.

Joe 54:29

That's what we did.

Matt 54:31

Let's just see. Oh, you know what? I can go here.

SPEAKER_06 54:34

Sorry. No, you can get do you uh do you use like cameras for this part, or or do you guys like actual uh yeah?

Joe 54:44

No, no, so I know you jumped in late. No one's watching, yeah. I did, I did edit it.

SPEAKER_11 54:50

He's like, I've been poking my nose for 20 minutes, eating my boogers, and you're recording this.

Joe 54:54

This is for no drivers only. This is the last one.

SPEAKER_06 54:57

No, I'm just saying like for the actual podcast line. What equipment do you actually use? I guess.

Matt 55:02

Oh, I've got uh Sony.

SPEAKER_06 55:04

What is it?

Matt 55:04

I have the same as Matt, basically, yeah, Sony camera, and then uh roadcaster interface, road mic. I think it's uh Mike, you guys were on episode 71. That was December 7th of 2020.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

Feels like yesterday. That's wild, right? That that that was our fourth auction because I think you had a sign to talk.

SPEAKER_11 55:27

Like, I'm on my phone with my beats pro, so I gotta get a mic.

SPEAKER_13 55:32

I'm on my phone with nothing, but I'm in Alaska, so you know. Oh shit, Alaska. Wow.

Matt 55:41

Do you live up there?

SPEAKER_13 55:43

Oh no, I mean I used to. I lived here for six years.

SPEAKER_11 55:47

Who's watching Demon Hunters? That song's fire.

Matt 55:59

He knew it.

SPEAKER_13 56:03

It's captive the world by storm.

Matt 56:09

What happened to Joe? Where'd he go?

SPEAKER_10 56:12

Daddy duties, daddy duties.

SPEAKER_11 56:16

Oh, we got two bushes. He's frozen over here and then he moved over there.

Matt 56:20

Yeah, I just it's it's in and out. It's it's hard. Yeah, this thing's being fucking a little it's you know, we we don't we have the did you not hear anybody?

SPEAKER_13 56:29

Is that what was going on? That was what have it happened to me. I left a few times because like I'd got no audio.

Matt 56:37

That that was happening.

SPEAKER_13 56:42

Well, it's nice to meet everybody. Nice to meet beautiful golf courses. My first whatnot raid was beautiful golf courses.

Matt 56:53

Mike is uh for the course.

SPEAKER_13 56:57

I don't need I've ever rated a dollars to buy a whatnot for the kid, and then he's like, Oh, here's for the uh to to buy yourself a halo light. My visual sucked.

Matt 57:12

That may have been somebody else might have seller.

SPEAKER_02 57:15

Yeah, I'm not a seller, I'm not a seller on whatnot, so oh I'd love to buy you a halo light to help out though.

Matt 57:27

There's just too many audio problems. Yeah, no audio, so let's do this. Sorry, T Lu. Ranger, can you still hear us?

SPEAKER_11 57:38

Oh no, I can't hear you. Oh, yeah, see. You kicked them, and then I can't hear nothing. Hold on. This is tough.

Matt 57:51

This is tough, yeah. Uh oh, and Mike, I'll I'll send you the the link to it's all good.

SPEAKER_02 57:56

Yeah, I definitely haven't rated anyone on whatnot.

Matt 57:58

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_02 58:00

I'll take credit for it.

SPEAKER_10 58:02

I was gonna ask. I was like, when did you fucking have a show?

SPEAKER_02 58:06

Oh, I'm too ugly to have a show.

Matt 58:09

Is that better, Ranger? Can you hear us now?

SPEAKER_11 58:11

Yeah, I can hear. I can hear you.

unknown 58:12

Okay.

Chasing Daylight Origins And Production Setup

Matt 58:13

Oh. In and out, in and out, in and out. Well, I'm gonna wait for Joe to get back and we'll wrap this up. I think an hour is plenty.

SPEAKER_02 58:22

Matt, how much how much do they want to bang you for an actual setup to have like a controlled like QA?

Matt 58:29

Um, let me see what it says. Oops, hang on.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

Because that's that's like what I was thinking. Like when Bob on uh Bob Does Sports used to do them, like he would control it and then like invite people, basically just open up their volume, but everyone would be in this giant screen with everyone's faces. Uh like similar to this, but you just have control over like who's talking.

Matt 58:54

It is$70 a month.

SPEAKER_02 59:00

Well, that could be a that could be a BGC sponsorship. What do you think?

Matt 59:04

Uh oh yeah, yeah. We can give it a shot.

SPEAKER_13 59:08

Tax write-off for sure.

SPEAKER_02 59:13

Is that is that on here? Like this in StreamYard?

Matt 59:16

On this, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

I can so if you would if you would pay that, like what difference would it be?

Matt 59:22

Uh so it says here um host a webinar, live stream, or event on StreamYard or embedded into your website, option to collect email addresses through a registration form, honor webinars, full HD, 4K, local recording, logos, overlay, video clips, backgrounds, multi-stream eight to eight destinations, unlimited streaming, recording, and much more. See what else it says.

SPEAKER_02 59:45

Yeah, I guess how is that different than what you're doing right now outside of collecting emails? Um, because people love to tout that as a huge value, and it's like yeah, it's really not.

Matt 59:55

Yeah, yeah, you can uh set up emails anywhere nowadays. Yeah, I can do that on my own. I don't need them for that. Uh let's see. Oh, there's a video.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:08

I'll send you this link to this YouTube. Yeah, we don't have to we don't have to go over it now, but yeah, I'm just curious.

Matt 1:00:15

But if I can find something that dude, get off my computer. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

I can ask Bob too what he used to use.

Matt 1:00:26

What's that, Tito?

SPEAKER_13 1:00:27

What do you guys normally use for podcasts?

Matt 1:00:30

It's StreamYard is the software we use.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:32

Okay, so you do use this.

Matt 1:00:34

Yeah, yeah. This is this records and allows us to record the audio separately, each individual person separately. So then I can go in and edit it and I use audition for that. And then I just download the the live, goes right to YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:51

Is the editing better with StreamYard Matt for like posting to YouTube and stuff than like Zoom? Is that why you don't like Zoom? What don't you like about Zoom?

Matt 1:00:58

Zoom, the quality is an issue. Oh they're they're more on making sure that what you're presenting live is perfect. They could give a rat's ass if you want to record it or if you want to use the audio.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:15

Does YouTube not have its own service?

Matt 1:01:18

It it does, but it's really expensive, and uh the quality is just not there. The StreamYard is designed for exactly what we're doing. Yeah, that's why we switched.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:29

I would think YouTube would YouTube slacking, man.

Matt 1:01:34

I don't think they care.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:36

Yeah, they're the money, the money in YouTube is not stuff like this. It's people people making videos and then YouTube just puts ads in. That's where their money is. Yeah, I guess. I feel like they don't care.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:48

I mean, there's so many people capitalize, though.

Matt 1:01:51

There's so many content creators on YouTube that have like studio settings that YouTube could not compete with at all, you know. Because these, I mean, like think one of my favorite is Think Media. They do a ton of tutorials, and Omari's here, he's a local, and his stuff is absolutely ridiculous. And he has built a million-dollar brand on yeah, but YouTube has the money.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:16

I think overnight they could compete. They might not be the best, but they could compete overnight.

Matt 1:02:23

I yeah, I just don't think they care.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:25

Uh yeah, they just don't. It's there, the market's not here for them.

Matt 1:02:29

Yeah, I mean, it would have to be something completely separate from what they're doing, and then the goal would be to get people to put what they're putting there, anyways. There, yeah, that's fair. Exactly.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:41

Everybody's gonna upload it to YouTube anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:43

Yep, exactly. Yeah, to Matt's point, everyone everyone already has a a production studio where they have good quality stuff, and they just YouTube's just a is a a medium to upload.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:55

Yeah, yeah.

Matt 1:02:58

Yeah, so all right, Joe, we're gonna wrap this up. It's getting late.

Joe 1:03:03

It's a long one, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:06

Sorry, can you imagine if you guys would still have your same time right now?

Joe 1:03:10

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:13

I forget where y'all are.

Joe 1:03:14

Well, I mean, you guys Vegas, we're Vegas, we're Vegas, in Wisconsin.

Matt 1:03:20

Yeah, it's 9 20 here.

SPEAKER_13 1:03:22

Yeah, it's 8 20 here. It's 11 20. 9 20 is late for those old meetings. Yeah, Rangers are it's 11:20 for M.

Matt 1:03:30

Hey Ray, Ranger, can you hear me right now?

SPEAKER_13 1:03:32

Yes, sir.

Matt 1:03:33

So my coach is in San Antonio. So if you ever need uh if you're looking for a golf coach, let me know. I'll connect you with him.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:40

I am I got you, I got you. When I take it more seriously, he's the best golfer here, though. I heard y'all talking about fitting clubs and all that stuff. I don't even hit my irons. I drive chip and putt every hole I pretty much play. And if it's a par five long one, it's a drive, uh five or three wood, and chip and putting. So I don't use my irons at all.

Joe 1:04:00

Yeah, you know, Matt's a Matt's a fitter for Callaway, so don't don't lie.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:05

You drive to line. I know, I know. And then putt, putt, putt, putt. I know Ranger's got the face.

Matt 1:04:15

Uh all right, everybody. Hey, thanks so much for hanging out.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:19

No, for sure. It was a good time, man.

Matt 1:04:20

Appreciate it so much. Thanks for testing it out with us, too.

Joe 1:04:23

That was uh interesting. Yeah, now we know more.

Matt 1:04:26

Mike, have yourself a good evening.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:28

Yeah, see you guys later. My phone is a million degrees right now.

Matt 1:04:32

Oh no, that's not good. No, just put it out.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:36

I gotta cool this bad boy down. Have a good night, fellas.

Tech Frustrations And Stream Tools

Matt 1:04:39

All right, later, Mike.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:40

Later, peace.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:42

Love you, Mike.

Matt 1:04:45

All right, T Lee. Thank you so much, man. Appreciate it.

Joe 1:04:47

Thanks, T Lo. Shout out to all the homies do that podcast live every Tuesday night. Until next time. Later.

Matt 1:04:54

Okay. And I'm gonna end recording. Don't leave yet, Joe.