359: From Dallas Fairways To Custom Putters: David Trett’s Journey

A Starlink meltdown, two missing Terriliums, and the cleanest long-neck builds you’ve seen—this one is part comedy of errors, part masterclass in the art of putters. We sit down with David Trett of Jet Putters to trace his unlikely route from college basketball to Dallas golf, where resort events, caddie loops, and indoor fitting bays turned into a crash course on performance gear and player psychology. Along the way, he learned to restore and customize putters—and now he shares the process live, sanding down the secrecy that usually shrouds the craft.

We get hands-on with the details golfers actually feel. David breaks down why long necks can neutralize torque, how shifting the neck axis toward center changes face rotation, and when deeper milling softens sound without muting feedback. He shows how compact heel-to-toe profiles can sharpen alignment, and he experiments with left-hand neck flips to chase true zero torque. It’s shop-floor truth instead of brochure buzzwords—useful for anyone debating face-balanced vs toe-hang or wondering whether a different neck could steady their stroke.

There’s a candid look at the live selling boom too. As the golf category on Whatnot exploded, volume and “games” reshaped pricing overnight. David explains how he reframed shows as marketing and community—teaching in late-night garage streams, fielding custom orders, and accepting the gritty reality of packing, split shipments, and the rare nightmare of unscanned boxes. The nostalgia thread runs strong: Mizuno blades, Zebra putters, burner bubbles, and proof that smart targets matter more than model year. We trade architecture notes—from the fairness of Sawgrass to the optical mind games of Whistling Straits, the beauty and brutality of French Lick, and why Ross parkland designs reward conviction.

At the center of it all is meaning. Heirloom restorations for families, a Blue Angels-inspired Phantom for a retiring Navy veteran—projects that tie craft to memory. If you love custom putters, Scotty Cameron Terrilium, long neck mods, zero torque setups, and real talk about gear, you’ll feel at home here. Tap play, share it with a golf friend who tinkers, and leave a review to help more gear nerds find us.

Chapters

• 0:00 Host Banter And Guest Intro
• 1:03 David’s Path From Hoops To Golf
• 4:20 Dallas Golf Club Life And Stories
• 10:45 Teaching Pros, Indoor Bays, And Club Building
• 17:00 Management Changes And Moving On
• 19:40 Colonial Caddie Days And Tour Pros
• 27:15 Custom Putters And Whatnot Community
• 33:25 Live Garage Builds And Sharing Techniques
• 39:45 Long Necks, Zero Torque, And Protos
• 46:50 Shipping Woes And Two Missing Terriliums
• 52:30 The Games Era On Whatnot And Market Shifts
• 1:00:05 Nostalgia Sets And Old-School Gear
• 1:08:20 Course Architecture, Dye vs Ross
• 1:17:10 Bentgrass Dreams And Midwest Tracks
• 1:24:10 Closing Thoughts And Jet’s Mission

Transcript

Joe: 0:24

It's a dad podcast. Dad's not home. It's our show. We're doing things our way today. How are you doing, Dan?

Dan: 0:32

I'm doing great, man. Especially now that dad's not home. Wow.

Joe: 0:36

We got a special guest tonight. For all you people from the whatnot fam and uh the golf fam. We got uh we got an interesting hey payment fails in the chat. Yes. I'm bored already. I'm bored already. We got we got jet golf in the house. Uh he's not just a whatnot seller, he's a golf guy, he's a he's a customizer, he's an he's he's he's the man. That's why I'm rocking the hat. Why don't you introduce yourself? How you doing tonight?

SPEAKER_05: 1:06

Happy to have you doing doing great. I really, really appreciate you guys uh asking me to be on. And man, I'm very excited to be here. I'm I'm doing great. Um besides uh jet golf, my name's uh David Trett. And yeah, I got into the golf world um after college. I played basketball in college and graduated, and I didn't really know what to do with my life and always played golf. Um, but so I was like, I still wanted to be competitive, like I had competitive juices still flowing from like playing basketball and uh just wanted to kind of feed that. I was like, dude, I'm just gonna get into the golf world, like that seems cool, and so moved to Dallas, and yeah, and then luckily, uh, I mean it was luck too. Like, I had some amazing jobs and worked at some amazing golf courses and was very lucky. And Dallas was great. I met a ton of people, and that's really where I got into like learning all the all the golf stuff, like how to custom everything. And I used to do it a lot back in the day, and then um just uh I did all that for like seven, eight years, and then uh I really wanted to play more golf, and I wasn't playing quite as much as I I wanted to, you know.

SPEAKER_02: 2:36

Same.

SPEAKER_05: 2:36

And um, so I was like, what can I do that I can just play more? And I then uh bought a coffee shop pretty randomly.

Joe: 2:49

Oh, really? Wow.

SPEAKER_05: 2:50

Yeah, so I bought a coffee shop.

Joe: 2:52

You and Bo Hostler are like one and the same, huh?

SPEAKER_05: 2:55

Yes, yes, exactly. And I I dude, I didn't know one thing about coffee. I didn't even drink coffee. I didn't know anything, I just knew it was like it was like something I felt like I could learn, and it was it wasn't a fad, it was like a time-tested business model that wasn't going away. So bought that in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, and um kind of learned the business. And being in Chapel Hill, where University of North Carolina is, um super reliant on the college kids there. Um and so it was just like up and down, you know, you're super busy when kids are in school and then slow when they're not, and which was cool because um I played a lot of golf, but dude, wasn't making like any money and just and but I was cool.

Joe: 3:44

Uh you're you're awesome golf around there, too.

SPEAKER_05: 3:48

So much, so much good golf. So much sick. Yeah, I got lucky and I got like a cool part-time job at at this like super high-end country club in in the triangle area, and so I got to play a bunch. It's a Donald Ross course, it's awesome. So I was yeah, Donnie's the man. Uh yeah, so I got lucky there, and then I ended up like just kind of figuring out like the business model that I wanted for my coffee shops, and I decided to move the coffee shops to Nashville. It was just a better market, and it was just kind of booming at the time. And then yeah, from there came to Nashville, and yeah, it's been awesome in Nashville ever since then.

Joe: 4:34

That's awesome. So you were in Dallas. So did you work for any brands out there or just courses?

SPEAKER_05: 4:40

Um courses. So uh I worked at Cowboys Golf Club that was owned by Jerry.

SPEAKER_10: 4:46

Ooh, super cool.

SPEAKER_05: 4:48

And yeah, that was great. That was really cool. Um, I have a million stories from that place. I'm sure you know. No doubt. Any anybody that's in the golf industry and especially works at like resort style courses or like high-end courses, like you're gonna have some crazy stories from all the all the behind scenes stuff from from just the employees to the people you run into. Uh yeah, I got some I was so part of the deal with Cowboys is um every Dallas Cowboys player can play for free out there anytime they want. Um if you're on if you're on the active roster, and then uh if your every golf cart out there has a former player's name on it. So if you have, and so they're like somewhat famous players, but there's some like random ones on there too. So uh if your name's on a cart, you can play for free. And when you play for free, you can bring a force of. So these dudes are out there all the time. Wow. And so that was cool. Got to play with a lot of those dudes, and Dallas has a ton of PGA tour players.

Joe: 5:58

Um, it's a massive hub.

SPEAKER_05: 6:02

So there was a lot of those guys who come out and play a lot. Um, probably the guy I got to play with the most was Rory Sabatini. Uh and everybody you dude, he comes off as like an asshole, you know? Yeah, dude. Yeah, his face, his face is like just like asshole face, punchable.

Dan: 6:22

Punchable for sure.

SPEAKER_05: 6:23

Yeah. Yeah. But um, yeah, he's actually cool as hell. And uh so worked there for years. I was uh I was a turn of like an events coordinator. So um interesting, like with a with a lot of high-end courses and like resort style courses, like that's a public course, but it's like high-end public, right? Um we just pump out corporate events in the and um so we do 144 in the morning, 144 in the afternoon.

Joe: 6:58

You do that for interesting, like because you know, I've obviously interacted with uh David Jett on whatnot, and I had no idea about any of this.

Dan: 7:10

No, no idea. I mean, but that's not what he's gonna do on whatnot. You know, you don't get a whole lot of insight into people's backstories and stuff, you know. Everybody's everybody's like, hey, you got any Scotties? Hey, you got any drivers, you know. Right, yeah. You got any drivers. Demands of what you want to sell right away. Yeah, I mean they do the Cowboys course, is uh I've never played, but I've heard nothing but good things, man. I heard that course is pretty legit.

Joe: 7:39

So it it looks legit.

Dan: 7:41

Uh yeah. I mean, I'm sure Matt's played it. That's probably the closest guy I know that can you know actually give me an accurate.

Joe: 7:50

I always forget where Green Lee is. Green's so massive.

Dan: 7:54

He's he's in Dallas. I think he's in Dallas. Yeah, almost probably in Dallas.

Joe: 7:58

I wonder if uh they've ever come across each other. It's a huge hub, you know what I mean? Like yeah, a bunch of brands out there, too.

Dan: 8:05

Yeah, well, I mean, Texas is a big spot, man. They got a lot of big major cities, a lot of commerce, you know.

Joe: 8:12

So what I love just fucking just stressed out on vacation, dude. Oh, yeah. There we are. We're back, we're back. Yo, welcome back. That was wild. I I mean, you know, there must be some storms happening in Tennessee right now, just probably blizzards, wind, dude, suburban rain.

SPEAKER_01: 8:37

Right. I was doing a show, I was doing a show uh the other night and lost power mid-show.

Joe: 8:43

Oh man, that sucks. Yeah, that really sucks. Oh yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 8:50

Yeah, so yeah, cowboys. Um, yeah, so cowboys was cool, but uh it was like we did so many events for you do like a million in September, October, November, and then you get a little bit of time off, and then you start right back like March, April, May, you do a million more until it gets too hot, right? Yeah, um, and then the rest of the time though, like it's it's pretty cool because like shoot, I played a lot of golf in that regard, but um kind of like Cowboys where that dude, it was like uh when Jerry just owned uh oh all right, all right, Jet.

Joe: 9:37

Strike two strike two. This is a shout out, dad. This is not easy. I was trying to fix the background and uh I didn't even know how to do that. We need Jeremy here as well.

Dan: 9:54

Yeah, I mean, you know, Matt what Matt does for not only the the podcast but the VGN man, he's just thankless behind the scenes, you know. Yeah, Matty, if you're listening, which I know you are.

Joe: 10:08

He's listening, he's watching.

Dan: 10:13

Oh yeah, he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna be uphill for 2 a.m.

Joe: 10:17

He's gonna just rail, rail, rail, rail.

Dan: 10:19

Oh, for sure.

Joe: 10:25

Well done.

Dan: 10:30

Hey, shit happens, yeah.

Joe: 10:32

It does happen. I work in I work in tech, uh I do A V for corporate events, and uh this shit happens all the time. It really does.

SPEAKER_05: 10:43

Yeah, so Cowboys, I went to um when I was at Cowboys. I one of the very first like indoor golf places popped up like right down the road from Cowboys. And um Cowboys had like uh I forget what it was, but they had like a head golf instructor or a teaching pro, and he wouldn't let anybody else like give lessons there at all. Um interesting like their deal, whatever it was, and so um this indoor place popped up down the road, and I knew like the head pro at the indoor place, right? And he was basically like, uh, you can use this place um to to give lessons anytime you want. I was like, oh sweet, cool. So you're a PGA? Are you PGA? No, I was I was never in the program ever.

Joe: 11:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 11:39

Um, but uh yeah, it didn't stop me from giving lessons, that's for sure. And um I got to like I worked with a lot of um I mean a lot of different ones, but uh honestly like a lot of cowboy players, and a lot of those dudes I just related to from like having a sports background, and I mean it's amazing how like you take these like great athletes and how horrific they are when you put a station stationary ball in front of them, right?

Joe: 12:12

It's different world, different world.

SPEAKER_05: 12:14

Yep, yeah, dude. And so I got to do a lot of that at the indoor place, and then they had a massive um like custom club building, club fitting, everything there, and that's really when I started learning all the like the the club stuff and how to restore restore clubs and how to build clubs and all that stuff, and so that was a cool little uh like skill that I learned and I liked that. And um, and then Jerry ended up selling um the majority ownership of cowboys to a management company, and then managed.

Joe: 12:52

I think the internet is just bad.

Dan: 12:54

No, you know what I think it is, bro. You know what I think it is, honestly. I think it's just the internet gods, they don't they don't like the cowboys, they don't want to hear anything about the cowboys. I was like, fuck that. Let's start calling the cowgirls. So they cut it, yo.

Joe: 13:11

So so Papa was supposed to join uh Jet tonight, but his internet has been down all day.

unknown: 13:17

Uh uh.

Joe: 13:18

And they're both in the same state. So I think that's the issue.

Dan: 13:21

Uh Tennessee, get your shit together internet-wise. Let's go.

unknown: 13:25

Yeah.

Joe: 13:26

I mean, there's some there's some good golf there, but the internet is not very good in Tennessee, supposedly. From what I've learned today.

Dan: 13:35

I think the internet's been driving.

Joe: 13:36

I think the internet in Tennessee needs an upgrade. I think there's an opportunity for some uh somebody with a lot of money to go in and just install fiber all around the state of Tennessee. I think this is showing opportunity for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 13:50

I got I got Elon, bro.

SPEAKER_05: 13:53

You got Elon internet? Uh I got I got Starlink. That shit should be good anywhere, right?

SPEAKER_10: 14:00

It's supposed to be. It's supposed to be.

SPEAKER_05: 14:04

I'm not off it. I'm just on regular, like regular cell service now. Like, is that the problem? Is Elon like launching from these rockets right now?

Joe: 14:15

Elon might be watching the show and he's like, hey, fuck these guys. Pinpoint this location. He doesn't like golf or something. Maybe that's the case.

Dan: 14:23

Elon's an Eagles fan. He doesn't want to tell he was on hearing anything about cowboys.

Joe: 14:27

There you go. I think you should start calling the the cowgirls golf course. Maybe that'll work.

SPEAKER_04: 14:34

I'm a big cowboy hater, honestly. Like, I really dislike them very much.

Dan: 14:40

Um, well, you either love them or you hate them. There's really no in between.

SPEAKER_04: 14:43

Yeah. It's America's team again.

Joe: 14:46

Yeah, exactly. They're there's no there's no America's team. It's their subdivision stuff. Oh, there it goes again. This is crazy.

Dan: 14:56

Strike five.

Joe: 15:01

We need to get out there and go go see Greenley and get to Frisco. We were just in there.

Dan: 15:07

Jeremy and I Jeremy and I were just talking about that uh when we were playing golf. It was like, dude, we need to get we need to make a CDP trip down to Dallas and go go see uh go see Greenlean and squeeze in some golf.

Joe: 15:18

Yeah, I would I would love to go check out their facility, Club Finders. Have you been seeing those uh videos of um Green Lean just pop it up in the background that he's been posting?

Dan: 15:29

Yeah, in the background juggling shit. He was a pretty good juggler though, man.

Joe: 15:38

Hey, he can juggle, that's for sure.

Dan: 15:41

He was doing that very easily.

Joe: 15:43

Yeah. So I sent me Twitter.

Dan: 15:47

He sent me a couple interesting shafts, and I'm definitely interested in trying them.

SPEAKER_09: 15:52

Oh yeah, what did he send you?

Dan: 15:54

He sent me a Diamana PD50 TX. So it's light, but he says it's super stable. So I'm gonna give it a whirl. I'll give it a try. See see what that is. And then he sent me a prototype um ARMRQ. It's a Japanese prototype shaft. And I think it's made for like Hanma or something like that. And um it's driver length, but it's I think it's a 70 in grams. But uh I'm definitely uh definitely interested in trying that out.

SPEAKER_11: 16:42

This is perfect for your your episode too.

SPEAKER_04: 16:45

I mean it absolutely is.

SPEAKER_11: 16:46

It's 100% perfect.

SPEAKER_04: 16:49

Totally fine.

SPEAKER_05: 16:55

Yeah. So um, yeah, Jerry sold uh Cowboys. We went to management company. Management companies like just suck every dollar out of out of you, right?

SPEAKER_04: 17:07

We were now the like top revenue producer out of a management company that had like 80 courses, and so now all of a sudden we go to bare bones budget, all the cool stuff we used to have we didn't have.

SPEAKER_05: 17:18

Um so I was like, I'm out of cowboys. Um and I ended up going over to Water Chase Golf Club, which is super cool. Um Water Chase Golf Club is like perfect what I was looking for. Private, like it was privately owned, just uh just a husband and wife owned, of course. And we were part of the Jim McClain Golf Academy there. Um and so Jim McLean had so we had a lot of PGA tour players there, a lot of um, you know, whatever tour it was then, if it was Nike Tour or Web.com or Nationwide, whatever it was then, Corn Ferry now, a lot of those guys there. Jason Day, Jason Day lived right um on the course, and nobody nobody knew who he was. So that was cool. Saw him all the time, beating balls on the range. Um and Jim McLean Academy uh also had a massive club building uh portion of it, and that was even like much higher end because they're doing a ton of custom stuff. And my boy that did all the club building down there, Neil Blanchard is his name, and he's still building clubs down in Dallas, and he's with another group now, but dude, he was the man, and so he really taught me like tons of tons.

Joe: 18:38

Took you under his wing.

SPEAKER_05: 18:40

Yeah. And so um, so I was there and I got to use the McLean Academy a lot, and they were like, they were ahead of the like we're talking this is now like this is 20 years ago, right?

SPEAKER_02: 18:54

Like that's yeah, that's a long time ago.

SPEAKER_05: 18:56

Right. And I mean they had like they had like the the indoor putting studio with like at that time, whatever putt view was, they had some form of that, you know.

Joe: 19:08

Oh wow. Like the early putt view joint.

SPEAKER_05: 19:11

Yeah, like the early putt view, and they they had like uh what was it? Was it like Skytrack was one of the well, I think it was Sytruck's one of the first launch monitors. And they had like six different bays with that, with um like hitting out onto the range. Um, so it was super cool and got to learn a lot of that stuff and had a great time there for a little while, and then I was lucky enough to um move over to Colonial, was the final place I was at.

Joe: 19:38

Oh, and did you so do when was it Matt at Colonial too?

Dan: 19:44

Yeah. You know Matt Marino?

Joe: 19:46

Tradition golf, right? Tradition golf and whatnot.

Dan: 19:51

Yeah, Matt used to work at Colonial Council.

Joe: 19:53

Yeah, he worked at Colonial too, and that was a while ago too, right?

Dan: 19:56

Yeah, I want to say it was uh Mid 2000s? 2008?

SPEAKER_09: 20:02

2000, 2000. Mid 2000. 2050, 2055.

Dan: 20:07

No, no, no, no. Like 2008. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09: 20:10

Yeah, sorry. Yeah.

Dan: 20:12

You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Like 2008 to like 2010-ish, 12-ish, somewhere around there.

SPEAKER_05: 20:19

Yeah, I feel like, dude, that's I never even really put that together.

Dan: 20:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 20:26

Um, because I feel like Matt was an assistant there then.

Dan: 20:31

Yes. There you go.

SPEAKER_05: 20:33

Matt was an assistant there. And I, when I went over to Colonial, like I didn't even, I wasn't even in the golf shop. I was caddying and um like occasionally would work out in the bag room.

unknown: 20:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 20:50

And if I remember, Matt was like second, second assistant, something along those lines. I never even honestly put that together.

SPEAKER_09: 20:56

That's like yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 20:58

Honestly, never ever had put that together. That's amazing. Yeah, because that was cool as hell. He him and one other assistant, I forget it, they were cool as hell. And then uh head pro is Dow Finsterwald, which his dad was, you know, uh super famous.

SPEAKER_04: 21:16

What um God, that's dude, that's amazing. I'm like that one right now.

SPEAKER_02: 21:22

Yeah, the world is wild, man.

SPEAKER_10: 21:26

The golf world is wild.

Dan: 21:27

Shout out, shout out tradition.

Joe: 21:29

Shout out to tradition, Matt, dude. I gotta holler at the homie. So Dan Dan used to caddy with tradition in Vegas.

Dan: 21:40

Yeah, we used to caddy at a club called Bears Best, and Matt was actually my roommate.

Joe: 21:44

Yeah, no way.

Dan: 21:45

Yeah, he was my roommate for like four years.

Joe: 21:48

And I I've always heard of him because you know, Dan's good friends with him, and his first show ever on whatnot. I was doing a show, and I uh I think Foreign Levi said Raid Tradition. It was his first show, so I rated him and I was watching for a second. I was like, I texted Dan. I'm like, is this like your homie, Matt? And he's like, Yeah, it is. I'm like, like I rated into your first show. It was wild. The the the whole entire golf spectrum and world and connection and network is insane.

SPEAKER_05: 22:19

I mean, the golf world's a small world, like we're all connected one way. We just figured it out already, right there, you know. That's yeah, like I rate I rated into tradition just the other night, and I honestly didn't even put it together then. I mean, I rated into him, and I've watched his shows before. Shit, I still didn't put it together. That's unbelievable.

Joe: 22:37

That I that's wild. That's wild.

SPEAKER_06: 22:40

Yeah, that is wild.

Joe: 22:42

I mean, almost 20 years ago, almost. Look at this motherfucker. Right, yeah, that's super cool though. Like, I I I love it.

SPEAKER_06: 22:55

Yeah, I think I left I left colonial at in like 2011, I want to say, something like that. So, but I'm like positive Matt was there.

Dan: 23:08

Yeah, yeah. He was there then because I think he went from Colonial to Blue Jack.

SPEAKER_06: 23:12

Oh, no kidding. Okay, very cool.

Dan: 23:14

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what he did.

SPEAKER_05: 23:17

Like, Colonial was like up and tight, and Matt was kind of like the cool dude that was like, all right, bro, like, you know, just you know, chill out a little bit. Right, yeah, like that. He he'd like come and grab me, he's like, Hey, you know, Dow said fucking do this. And I'm like, Yeah, I got it. Okay, cool. Yeah, he was he he was cool in that regard. Dude, Colonia was cool, it was like uh caddy shack in the way um dude, we had a caddy tournament.

Joe: 23:44

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01: 23:45

Okay, and so so the caddy the caddies got to play.

SPEAKER_05: 23:50

Oh nice and then the tournament and the and the and the members like all put a bunch of money in the pot for for the winners of the tournament. Oh, that's sick.

SPEAKER_08: 24:02

Sick.

SPEAKER_05: 24:02

So so we're out there like dude, we were we were grinding away. And I I won the caddy tournament one year, and so that was dope as shit.

Joe: 24:12

Hell yeah, that's awesome. That's so cool, man. Like, I dude, I I never even would have guessed any of this. You know what I mean? So rad.

SPEAKER_05: 24:24

And Colonia was so cool because there was probably like I'd say like 20 PGA tour players that were playing out of there at that time. I mean, it was like every day. That was when like uh Colt Nost was like big time and right.

SPEAKER_09: 24:37

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 24:38

He was winning shit, so he was out there all the time, and Ryan Palmer was out there all the time, and Romo was out there a decent amount. Like Romo never really played out at Cowboys, so I didn't I didn't really play with him too often. I played with him at Colonial every once in a while. Um But yeah, there was it was like a who's who of a lot of cool dudes out there all the time, so got to mingle with those dudes a lot.

Joe: 25:00

When did Hogan pass? Did Hogan pass af before or after you were there?

SPEAKER_05: 25:06

Uh yeah, before I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure? Yeah, that sounds right. It was like I thought it was like early 2000s, yeah.

unknown: 25:15

I can't remember.

SPEAKER_04: 25:16

And then Byron was kind of the same. He he he passed like right around that same time, too.

SPEAKER_10: 25:23

That's fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_05: 25:25

Yeah, because yeah, so I remember going to the Byron um when it was at um TBC Las Colinas, and Byron was still alive sitting in his chair on 18, and then like shortly after he passed away, so it would have been like mid-2000s, I think, when Byron passed too.

Joe: 25:43

Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_05: 25:45

Dude, they got they got Hogan's office set up in in Colonial as it was.

Joe: 25:50

I'm sure they have to, right? You gotta do that, just like they have at Bay Hill for Arnie, right? Arnie, yeah. Doesn't he have one there? Yeah, yes, he does. That's that's awesome. Two places I need to get to one of these days, 100%. I'm a I'm uh I'm like a I love the story of golf and the legend of it and the history and you know the experiences that we all face and get to relate to in different ways through the game. Like that's my shit right there. That's that's that hits the the heartstrings like a violin, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04: 26:26

For sure. I love the history of it so much. Yeah, yeah, dude.

Joe: 26:31

Look at this right here. Uh, you've probably never seen it. Oh, you can't even see it. I got a I got a flag. Shout out uh dad, if he's still listening. Uh he gifted that to me for my birthday. It was flying at the Pete Dye golf course on the range, and it's signed by Pete Dye and it's framed.

SPEAKER_04: 26:48

No doubt, that's amazing.

Joe: 26:50

Shout out Pete Dye. Legends never die. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04: 26:54

That's right. He's diabolical, bro.

Dan: 26:58

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he is. Yes, he was pretty nasty.

Joe: 27:03

So you so you moved, and then you picked up you picked up um, you know, customization of putters mostly, right? That's what you're doing now, mostly putters.

SPEAKER_04: 27:14

Yeah, I can customize whatever. It's it's just way more time consuming to do all the other stuff.

Joe: 27:19

Putters are just I have what there was one show, um shout out Tennessee Wi-Fi, as always. Internet Tennessee companies, let's go! Shout out TN. Um Go Vols. Is that the brand? Is that the Tow Voles? Yeah, yeah.

Dan: 27:38

They're playing, they're playing right now, I think.

Joe: 27:41

That's probably why, because everybody in the outskirts of Tennessee are just uh streaming. Everybody in Tennessee is streaming the vols, yeah, and that's why the internet's not good. Shout out the Tennessee volunteers, they are taking everybody's internet from them right now, watching the game.

SPEAKER_00: 27:59

Are they playing?

Joe: 28:00

Are they playing right now? It's a dancing.

Dan: 28:03

I think so. I think so.

Joe: 28:06

It might be over by now, but yeah, so but so you can customize anything, but you're focusing on putters mostly, right? I've most I've watched your whatnot show when you were just in the garage and you're seracoding and you're adding the designs to the putter, and you you're you're teaching as well, you know what I mean? Which I love. I love teaching so I can understand how things are going down. And you you're like, we gotta we gotta base paint this, so that's the base layer, and we gotta add this, and this is what we do, and you're doing like four putters at a time, which I love watching. You keep me up too late sometimes, but I love watching. Um have you ever watched yet before?

Dan: 28:47

Um I don't think I have to be honest with you.

Joe: 28:50

Yeah, he'll have the mask on, and I probably shouldn't say this, but uh he I know he doesn't give a fuck. He gives away in the followers, he gives away like nice, nice. I got one, I won one. It's over here somewhere.

Dan: 29:09

That's dope. There he is, he's gone back. Hopefully, it's the higher one.

Joe: 29:15

No, he only does threes.

Dan: 29:17

Uh still that's crazy.

Joe: 29:20

Yeah, right. Wild. Um, but no, he's he's doing a lot of the custom putters for a lot of the um um people on whatnot, and uh it's good work. And I'm curious if he can do my trillium. This is this is my favorite comment of the night. Payment fail. Matt is sweating watching that take place.

Dan: 29:42

Oh yeah, for sure.

Joe: 29:45

Hey, we did not we did not do what we had to do if he's not sweating right now. And he also well this I don't think this will ever this will probably be a black site episode. You're catching it live, it'll exist live, but I don't think Matt's ever gonna put this on on YouTube.

Dan: 30:08

This might, yeah, this might stay on the uh editing room floor.

Joe: 30:12

Yeah, this might just be a little live episode because I don't think he's gonna want to edit this, first of all. And uh, I don't think he's gonna think it's good enough to be edited. We might have to have Jet back one night because this is a great story, and I'm sure I didn't even Matt, I didn't even know any of this. I did not know his background. Uh, I just know what he does on whatnot, and this story is awesome and could be a great episode for sure. We are bringing the heat. Also, if you know, if you know Jet, this is perfect. This is how his episode is supposed to go.

SPEAKER_06: 30:49

I mean, that's a fact, dude.

SPEAKER_05: 30:51

I know this is really what should be happening, and I'm very happy to be a part of this controlled chaos. Absolutely. Three inches away from my router.

Joe: 31:05

There you go. Let's see what happens now. Shout out Tennessee.

SPEAKER_04: 31:09

My goodness.

SPEAKER_05: 31:14

I love it. Yeah, so yeah, the the garage shows are cool with um like kind of like giving away like tips and all that. I feel like people in the like, I don't know, like in the putter customization world, like they're just so like tight to the best with secrets and how they do things and stuff like that. I'm like, bro, there's I mean, why? Right?

SPEAKER_04: 31:43

I mean, I I I think part of it too is like the the whatnot golf community itself is so extremely helpful, it seems like. And like and like everybody is is really out like to help everybody.

SPEAKER_05: 32:01

So to me it was kind of like why not just kind of take on that mindset too, right? And and do something a little bit different than running spot for something. And um, I really when I first when I first did it, I didn't really like have I was gonna do a show and I didn't have time to like get a putter customized to give away, and I was like, oh, why don't I just do it and why don't I just um do it live? And that was kind of like the idea I had. And then that went kind of well, and I really like anticipated being on for like 30 more minutes, like just paint a putter and be done with it. And then everyone's like, ah dude, show us this, show us this, and I was like, seriously, y'all want like this is boring. But um uh yeah, ended up staying on like two, two or three more hours, like deep into the night, just doing random stuff, and so yeah, I've done it a few more times, and I'm shocked with how many people are in there at one in the morning my time, like watching, and all of a sudden there's like 50 people in there. I was like, Y'all are just watching me paint.

unknown: 33:12

All right.

Joe: 33:13

I I I think it's awesome because um, like I kind of do the same thing occasionally. If I don't have a lot of stuff to sell, I do the same thing, I just hang out and talk golf because I'm sure you know most of these, most of the whatnot buyers are newer to golf and they have questions. You know what I mean? So like I'm down, I love golf so much. I'm down to just talk golf.

Dan: 33:42

I know you are. I know you are three inches away. Even three inches away from the router, it still gets dropped.

Joe: 33:55

That's funny. Elon Musk must not like the Chase a Daylight podcast. He has a I don't know. He's a bit of a hater.

Dan: 34:02

He's a bit of a hater.

Joe: 34:04

Nori, how are you living tonight? Welcome to the VGN, Nori. Happy to have you. Can't wait to meet you in person. But that's what I was saying is is like I do the same thing, kind of right, because like I feel like as a I'm not even I'm still I still consider myself a newer golfer, but I've been obsessed for years, and um, you know, I love golf courses and Corsair architecture. And uh, you know, Matt, who's not here tonight, he's a fitter for Callaway. And Dan Dan was uh uh on the the rush to make it to the tour, and you know, a lot of our friends we have you know the network of golf, and uh I know quite a few things, and that's why I try and that's what I like to do because I want to share my love of the game and teach as well. And I I appreciate you doing that. Uh it's not always about selling for me, it's about hanging out with people that love golf. He's gonna have to go on the roof, Jet.

Dan: 35:02

Re that's unbelievable, dude. That's crazy.

Joe: 35:09

You might have to go on the roof, Jet, and realign the Starlink.

Dan: 35:14

Seriously, throw a little water on it. Let's see.

Joe: 35:17

Payment failed says fave part of HG auction is when all sales go out the window and it's you you guys want to just hang out and talk. Love that.

Dan: 35:27

You know what though? I mean, you you're right, you're kind of spot on about that, Joe, because there are a lot of new golfers out there, and they just don't know a lot of shit. They don't know a lot about a lot, you know what I mean? Yeah, they just kind of know what they've seen on YouTube and you know, just right shit like that.

Joe: 35:45

So and it's all you got the comos, you got you got a Scotty, you got the and it's not everything is right for everybody, and uh you know, it's it's wild, it's wild doing a show, it's crazy. It's you know, it's crazy.

Dan: 36:05

Yeah, no, I'm I'm sure, I'm sure, you know. Like I I've never, you know, obviously I've never sold it. Yeah, I mean when you're in the chat, you know, it's crazy where how you could tail off into something else, you know. Yeah.

Joe: 36:21

Good, Jeff.

SPEAKER_04: 36:22

Joe, when when I was first like when I first got on whatnot, I didn't do anything but like watch shows for like the first month before and kind of like just learning what it all was, you know. Yeah, that's what you needed.

SPEAKER_05: 36:34

Yeah, one one of the very first one of the very first shows I came across was you doing exactly what you said you were doing. It was like in the night, right? Yeah, and I forget. No, I remember like I actually remember you had Cody on and um y'all were talking about bandit dunes, I think, one night.

SPEAKER_04: 36:57

Which shock all the time.

SPEAKER_05: 36:58

Yeah, and yeah, I mean, and I was like, oh, this is cool as hell. They're just talking golf. I was like, all right, whatnot? It's like not bad, you know. And then I was like, nobody else has really ever done that. And that was like one of the very first shows I came across. I just sat in there until whatever time, like just listening to y'all talk. Like, I thought that was cool as hell.

Joe: 37:17

That's cool. I love it. It's like a mini podcast, it's like a live mini podcast on whatnot almost. And then if somebody asks for something and and you have it, you can sell it, you know what I mean? Like, uh my main goal is to bring people here to the podcast. Yes, like having extra income, if I can find stuff to sell and people want, and and building the hit and greens brand, which has been around since 2018, basically, you know. Um, and you know, build build uh another layer of my network of golf. Like if I you know, like I met Payment Failed in Nebraska. We took a we took a trip to Landman and Prairie Dunes, and I met Payment Failed in a McDonald's parking lot, you know, and he's a he's an awesome dude, and I text him all the time. And like that's what's so dope about the game. It's it's a network that you build, and if you show up in a city, you probably know somebody if you build your network properly, and that's golf. I love it.

Dan: 38:23

He definitely needs to get a refund.

Joe: 38:29

Uh well, Matt prefers Google Gemini.

SPEAKER_02: 38:31

Google Gemini's uh Rhina email to uh which one is he? Which one is he? Uh, I think I don't know which one he is. This one, the one with the black screen.

Dan: 38:43

That's no.

Joe: 38:44

This one. There he is. Loading. Yeah.

Dan: 38:50

Yeah, David, you need to get your money back, bro.

Joe: 38:53

Yeah, you need to you need to hit up Elon.

Dan: 38:56

Yeah, you need to get a good old-fashioned dial up and fucking modem. That shit would probably last better, right?

SPEAKER_04: 39:02

I'm about to ask my wife wife to come over here and I'm gonna tether to her phone. Good lord.

SPEAKER_05: 39:11

Yeah.

Dan: 39:14

Unbelievable.

Joe: 39:15

So great. I love it. It's perfect. It's perfect.

unknown: 39:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 39:21

So I dude, the funny thing you're talking about payment failed. Like, I dude, I text him a lot. I just finished a putter for him. Um, and yeah, we'll talk about like farming and stuff, you know, like the the reach.

Dan: 39:35

Oh shit. Oh boy. This is yeah, this is this is great.

Joe: 39:46

I mean, it's pretty fucking funny, honestly.

SPEAKER_11: 39:49

It's pretty fucking funny.

Dan: 39:50

I mean, it's we it's gotta be I gotta tell him in the downtime go grab some Scotty so we can see some of his work.

Joe: 40:00

No, he he he does do really good work. Uh internet sucks. And thankfully, you don't need the internet to make butters.

Dan: 40:10

Yeah. That's true.

Joe: 40:14

But I I mean, I need it you need the internet to sell some butter to me. That's true, that's true that speaking of Tennessee. Goodwood just moved down to Tennessee. Shout out Goodwood.

Dan: 40:27

Yeah. Also, I need to throw up uh first.

Joe: 40:32

Where is uh shout out Garson as always, guys? Always Garson, shout out Garson Golf. Let me see if I can pull this up. There we go. Banner play. There it is. Garson Golf.

Dan: 40:44

Yes, darling supports them talking here. Yeah.

Joe: 40:48

Yep. Yes, Garsengolf.com. I think it is. Um, use code daylight15 at checkout. You can save yourself 15% off uh on a Garson Grip. We love them personally. Look at that. Look at that back. Oh, you can't see it, but it's over there. Dan's Garson is right there. Um, they help us uh help you, and uh we love Garson. So use code daylight 15 at checkout.

Dan: 41:14

Daylight 15.

Joe: 41:16

Daylight 15.

Dan: 41:18

Save yourself. 15.

Joe: 41:21

Uh Matt says moving. Long process for Goodwood. I can imagine. I can imagine. I know Payment Failed is looking to get uh himself a Goodwood. He found a really good deal somewhere I thought on uh on the bay. He found a good he found a good one. I don't know if he bought it.

Dan: 41:40

Shit. I got two of them sitting in the closet. Which one would be a couple of things?

Joe: 41:43

Darling do you know who this is? I can I can it's probably fucking payment failed. It is payment failed. Yeah, it's gotta be he made he made uh gom tonner the other day, and then um he showed up in my show and uh I was like who are you? Give me a sign, let me know. I know who you are. Gom Tunner, and uh he said McDonald's, and I'm like, Maud, you know, so yeah, that's funny.

SPEAKER_02: 42:14

Gom Tunner.

Dan: 42:16

Like it comes in, someone talking shit near.

SPEAKER_02: 42:18

I swear that dude has fucking 87 accounts.

Dan: 42:21

Oh, no doubt, no doubt. And I don't know about the good the a good the good good one was a fantastic move.

Joe: 42:30

Oh, that was he he played that so well. Yeah, that was a good one. What's up, Kristen Taylor TNT? How are you? What's the TNT about? She dynamite. She's Tennessee too, right? I think you are Tennessee. There's too many people to keep up with. It's tough nowadays. Kristen, is your internet is your internet out gum ton tonguers. Gum tonguers.

Dan: 43:01

Gum tonguers is what they're sort of called.

Joe: 43:06

All right, it's turning into a whatnot show now, guys. I guess I saw you uh you messaged me earlier. Paul Rodriguez was on, which I think I've seen him before, but it's absolutely insane. And here he is. Here he is, he's back. He's back. You hey real quick while you got a second, just sell Garson Grips for us, real quick. Use code Daylight15 to check out and see how good you are.

SPEAKER_05: 43:40

Yeah, you're here you got three seconds until you screen. Garson grips is sick, dude. Best new putter grips out there. Yep, absolutely.

SPEAKER_09: 43:48

Can you also I know you guys know? Yeah, I can see you see you now.

SPEAKER_05: 43:52

All right, I can't see myself, but whatever.

SPEAKER_09: 43:54

No, we can see you.

SPEAKER_05: 43:55

Bye. I can see you guys. So, dude, as long as you can see me, you can hear me.

Joe: 43:59

Yeah, see you hear you. We're good. You know, you can use code daylight15 at checkout to save yourself 15% on Garson. No, if you need any, just so you know.

SPEAKER_05: 44:10

But Garson grips are so good. Uh, I don't know.

Joe: 44:15

Papa's bought a bunch from me lately.

SPEAKER_05: 44:17

Oh, no kidding.

Joe: 44:18

Yeah, he's we got because Garson sent me Papa knows, uh, or sent us the podcast, uh, like Miraz, Mira grips that were never released, Odyssey grips that were never released, like uh Abraham answer grips that were never released, and a bunch of stuff. And I got two shafts, custom KBS tour, uh Garson stamped shafts. So Garson is a huge supporter of ours.

SPEAKER_05: 44:42

Garson, I didn't even know Garson does shafts.

Joe: 44:45

Yeah, well, no, it's a KBS tour shaft, but they put the Garson logo on it.

SPEAKER_05: 44:50

Sick. Yeah, there's one local guy here that carries Garson grips, but he's like 35 minutes away. Uh but uh every time I'm over in that area, I swoop in and snag some grips for sure. You see it's the only place I can find them, otherwise ordering them online.

Joe: 45:10

You're the best. No, you need to go, you need to go listen to uh our episode um with Garson. It's 15 20 back, maybe. Did it go smoother than this? Yeah, it went a lot smoother. Yeah, they got good internet.

SPEAKER_05: 45:28

Dude, I have a feeling I'm not gonna go out the rest of the night.

Joe: 45:32

I I you're looking a little more stable for sure. You definitely look a little more stable. 100%.

unknown: 45:41

Yeah.

Joe: 45:42

What where where did we leave off? I can't remember. Where were we? Give it 10 seconds.

Dan: 45:47

We're talking about how he was just getting into um um how you're using whatnot to like sh um display what he was doing and how the chat was like asking him, you know.

Joe: 45:57

Oh, yeah. Also, if you want to if you have anything close, you can show some of your stuff too. Uh dude, I got a bunch of stuff sitting here.

Dan: 46:03

Um, yeah, let's see it, man. Let's see some of your work. Show it on.

SPEAKER_05: 46:07

Uh, absolutely. Hold on one second. Let me go grab it at the ceiling. That's fine.

Dan: 46:12

We'll wait right here.

SPEAKER_05: 46:13

Yeah, everything will be fine, I'm sure.

Joe: 46:16

Yeah, you're good, brother. David, dude, it's David. Don't worry about it. I'm on it. 10k refund coming your way. Shout out Starlink support.

Dan: 46:29

Got 10k coming your way.

Joe: 46:32

That's why, that's why it, that's why it's so great. It's so fitting, it's perfect. Yeah, I mean, uh, there they're a lot of the guys are sending their stuff to him. Um, I need to ask him if he can if he can um restore my terrain. Yeah, he's got a restore.

Dan: 46:52

He's got a lot of Scottties now, so we might as well see what you can get done.

Joe: 46:56

I you I played today. I played Wild Horse with my brother today. That's right.

Dan: 47:00

He said you were looking by Tuesday.

Joe: 47:03

Played like absolute shit. It happens, and that place is you know, it's very firm, fast. Uh, I just have I have no feeling my wedges. I just like dude, my my floppers and my little chippers were trash. No feel.

Dan: 47:18

Well, dude, when you don't play and practice for a while, the the first thing to go is a short game. You lose your touch, you lose your feel.

Joe: 47:25

I was putting great though. I was putting fantastic, but well, that's good. Wedges were absolutely horrendous.

SPEAKER_00: 47:33

All right, boys. Let's see if uh uh hold on one un momento, one more second.

Joe: 47:43

Does Garson make jumbo grips like golf pride? Um James. Yes, uh, it's called the ultimate. Um you can go to their website, it's it's bannered below. And if you find one you like, Tony, there's a Tony Fina model, but it's called the Ultimate. You can use code Daylight15 and checkout. Save yourself 15. Um, I'm gonna hide your comment, and that's where you go. Gars and golf daylight 15 to checkout.

SPEAKER_05: 48:09

All right, boys. Um, yeah, I was just talking about our boy payment failed, right? Yeah, and here we go.

Joe: 48:21

Pinky. I he actually sent me a picture of that pinky, pinky boys.

SPEAKER_05: 48:26

This one like bright pink, and then he wanted this like turquoise shaft.

Dan: 48:34

So Laguna, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 48:37

No, uh, yeah, no, yeah, Laguna 2.5. Nice pearl platinum.

Joe: 48:42

Let me payment payment failed to be finding so many like under-the-radar joints out there on marketplace because he's still in Nebraska nowhere, so he can he just hunts.

SPEAKER_05: 48:54

Trade just picked up the Laguna like uh special select Newport that just went and did like uh I gotta fix this middle eye right there. Um got a blacked-out Del Mar for Surfshack. This was the worst putter I've ever seen in the history of putters when it came back. It was absolutely mangled.

Joe: 49:18

Nice, nice that shut out, Surfshack.

SPEAKER_05: 49:22

But uh what I got that I'm the most excited about that we're starting to do is um all the long necks.

Joe: 49:33

Long necks. I did see this, yes. Why did I even think about this?

SPEAKER_05: 49:36

Yes, I love a long neck, so yeah, this was this is like uh one of the jet protos that I made. Um, this one is 303 carbon, and I designed the whole thing, and like I don't know, like the newport style is longer, like heel to toe than I generally like. So I made this a little I shortened it a little heel to toe length, and it's still that Newport look when you're looking down on it, right? Yeah, just a little more compact, yeah, more compact, and then I added deeper milling on it, and so um I'm gonna get sick. Yeah, yeah. Pretty cool for sure. And I'm a big fan of the long neck.

Joe: 50:26

Um I love a long neck.

SPEAKER_11: 50:27

I've kind of explained to people before like what the long neck even does is um you you're making it face balanced, and where it's pre it's pre uh, you know, zero torque, if you will.

SPEAKER_05: 50:40

Pre- Yeah, exactly, right? And you and you don't get that in like a newport blade head very often. You gotta have a double bend of some sort in like a mallet style. And I mean, essentially what you're doing is if you can get this angle up here to match to the center of the club, you're going to make it face balanced. Yeah, so that's cool.

Joe: 51:07

And then so I forget who made who made because you had somebody make those giraffes for you.

SPEAKER_05: 51:12

Yeah, who was it? Uh, my boy uh Mike Hudson, he's up in Canada.

Joe: 51:17

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05: 51:19

Um, and he just takes blocks of steel and does whatever you want with them.

SPEAKER_08: 51:25

Nice.

SPEAKER_05: 51:26

Um, and so you can literally like send him CAD files of exactly what you want, and he'll produce it. Um, and he produces a lot of putters himself, and you can kind of take some of his putters and be like, I like this, I like this. Um, and he's like, Cool, I'll tweak it, I'll make it. And he um, and then he sends me just the next two, yeah. And so, like, that's the other thing we're doing, or I'm doing, I guess. Um, so this was this is a Phantom 5, and going to make this into um yeah, long neck.

Joe: 52:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 52:09

So we'll take this Phantom 5, and this was before just um like a slant neck, so it had a little toe hang on it, yeah. And then doing the same with this Phantom 9, took that off, and so we'll end up with that look on it too.

SPEAKER_08: 52:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 52:27

Um, and then I got something even crazier for you. I don't have it with me, but it have have y'all are probably familiar with Rush Kane and what he does.

Dan: 52:42

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_05: 52:43

So rush is like one of one when it comes to like customization, like the dude's a wizard, yeah, and um, so he has been flipping that neck, the long neck, yeah, and taking long necks and turning them into zero torque, yeah.

Joe: 53:03

Like what even roll did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 53:07

And so I was like thinking about it and looking at it, and I was like, I don't know, like I'm sure it's a lot more technical than this, and Rush is way advanced from where I am, right? But I was like, dude, it looks like a left-handed uh neck that he threw on the right hand side, and so started messing with one and tacked it up, and I was like, all right, so now it's on there, and I can get it to sit like almost in that zero torque position, but now it's just like messing with the weights and finding that exact spot it's gotta be. So that's why I just got it tacked on there, and now I'm just moving it like millimeters and centimeters around to find that exact spot to get it in there. Then I'm like, all right, once I do that, then I can lock it in and I can do the exact same thing.

SPEAKER_08: 54:06

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_05: 54:07

So I'm gonna be pretty pumped when I get that, and it is truly like I think like how Rush does it. Um, I mean, he's fabricating his own necks, right? And he he's got a lot more, like you he can explain the physics behind it. I cannot. Yeah. Um, I am like trial and error until I get it in the right spot, and I'm like, and I'm moving weights around, and I'm like, all right, here it is. On on this one, and I feel like I will have to do that on every putter, like it'll be a trial and error. I'm gonna mess around, mess around, mess around until you find it. Find it, yeah. Yeah, but like, yeah, I really enjoy all of those things very, very much and tinkering um in a lot of different ways. Um, that just not that many people are doing. So I like to just all right, see if I can figure it out. It's kind of how I go about it. It's awesome.

Dan: 55:05

Trial by any tech thing, yeah.

Joe: 55:07

We might we might have to have it back one of these days because I'm sure Matt is uh he's probably asleep because he's in New York, but um but he he I'm sure he could talk your fucking ear off. Oh, I bet I bet he is a absolute tinker king. Tink the mayor of Tinkertown, is what we call him.

SPEAKER_05: 55:25

So that's hilarious, and like it's funny, like my own personal equipment. I don't tinker with it, I don't care. But it's like all the other stuff. Like, I'm gonna like I played the same irons for the last six years, same driver for the last eight, whatever. Yeah, like cool, I got it locked in, I don't need to mess around with it, I don't need to tinker. But all the other stuff, like I'm still fascinated by like all the new technology and all this they're doing, and you want to learn it and mess around with it.

Joe: 55:54

It's one of those like I watched, I was I was on a YouTube kick yesterday, and I was going down the road of like um why are we so bored now? Why are we uh why do we hunt for nostalgia? And it's like I just think it's like finding something to learn, and finding something to figure out is so important, and just you know, like I mean, I'm I don't tinker with my game, I don't care what I shoot. Uh you know, I love golf. I'm happy to be out there because I don't get to do it as much anymore, but like find like you know, something to fix or figure out or puzzles, you know, like and that's what a golf course is at the end of the day, it's a puzzle, and you got to plot your way around it. And I think that's like the innate, you know, like thing that draws us to it. And it's like, how do we get around here and and and do it the best way possible? And I I I think it's kind of similar in what you're doing too, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05: 56:50

I'm with you on that. And and like speaking of the nostalgia of it, like I love like old equipment, uh yeah, me too. Me too. And I got on this kick last year where I was have you ever heard of uh Larson, Larson golf? I haven't. That's my homie.

Joe: 57:09

He he he was restoring persimmons. Oh, that's phenomenal, bringing them back to life, and now he's trying to do his own like uh steel plates, which he's done a few. He works at Power Belt, works at Power Belt now.

SPEAKER_05: 57:21

You know, our belt's got some dope stuff, honestly. Absolutely, yeah.

Joe: 57:24

Shout out to PowerBelt. Yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to get um Trevor. Let me get some for the whatnot, please.

SPEAKER_05: 57:31

They got some cool stuff that it's hard to get your hands on, but really like in the case of the Weston Ma.

Joe: 57:36

Weston Weston Ma hand. I forget Weston. He just gave Weston Ma, and he just made a butter for them. There was like a hundred of them, and that's it. Damn custom power belt butter.

SPEAKER_05: 57:48

Yeah, um, that's super cool. I was I was on this kick like last year where I'm talking to my boys that I play with, and I'm like, dude, like I know golf technology is better, but like I I think like you can play and you can play with anything if like a lot of it's meant just the mental side of it, like if it you look down at something, right? And so I was like, dude, I'm gonna go all throwback clubs 100. Like throwback to like all my favorite stuff that I used to really like. So I got these 80 uh what they're 89 Wilson Staff blades, and yeah, then I got uh so nothing but old clubs, and then I got um the old uh burner bubble, like tour spoon, uh fairway wood. That was one of my all-time favorites, and then um what try? Oh Cleveland Launcher Comp, which I really liked. That was one of the first uh one of those too. Well, one of the first carbon heads, carbon crowns, yeah. Yeah, carbon crowns, that's right. And uh I felt like it was just straight. And so I was like, oh, zebra putter, zebra was face balance back then, yeah, yeah. And um, so it got all that old stuff, and I just started playing with it. And I was like, dude, I'm not I'm gonna shoot the same score that I shoot with this with what I play with right now. I was like, I swear. I mean, uh yeah, the loss and all the irons were five to six degrees off um from what they are now, right?

SPEAKER_10: 59:22

Yeah, right, it's got beat, you know.

SPEAKER_05: 59:25

So like a nine iron is a wedge, like I just looked at it that way and that type of deal. Yeah, and um, bro, I I didn't I shot the same scores, like maybe one or two strokes different. Maybe, you know, maybe you lose a little bit of yardage off the T, but everything else was completely the same.

SPEAKER_09: 59:43

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 59:44

And I just love the nostalgia of golf, and like I thought it was like so cool to like just play with like my clubs that I thought were so amazing when I was a kid and stuff like that. So yeah, all those, and I still bust out the retro set for. Time to time and just play with that because I think it's all yeah.

Joe: 1:00:03

I'm building, I'm currently trying to build like an early 2000s set. I got like an old set of Mizunos. Um and I'm just I got like these, I got my ferals for it, like the ferrous I want to put on them. I got uh sugar loaf um sugarloaf social club grips that are the arrow cords like replicated. So I'm I'm trying to build one and uh yeah, it's just I don't I like nowadays I could care less what my score is, you know, and it's just I'm happy to be there, man. Because there was an analogy one time. I probably told this story on the podcast before, but uh I was at a Christmas party at my friend's house who's a golfer, and uh his brother-in-law was there, and he's like, I love cycling, cycling's the best, cycling is what it's where it's at, and we're like, No, golf golf's the best, and I'm like, You can go ride your bike right now. It was dark, you know, it was it was 10 o'clock at night. You can go ride your bike right now, and you can get that fix. But I cannot go play golf right now. Fact, and and that's one of those things where it's like I've learned to appreciate every moment I'm out there because we don't get to do it as much as we want to. Amen to that, you're right. Yeah, amen.

Dan: 1:01:24

Show gets deep with it. I can get pretty deep.

Joe: 1:01:26

Speaking of deep, I got this the other day. Uh Roots and Relics on whatnot, little Jack Nick, dude. I bet 1981. I like that. I know, I know Dan got one of these. That's awesome. I got one of those, and a little Tom Kite action, a little full of things.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:45

Oh, that's so good, dude. My um, my brother sells uh cards on the app. That's all he does. That's his only job. He sells cards on the app, yeah. And so he has all these different golf ones, right? And so he'll send me a bunch of golf stuff, and so now I've been sending um golf cards out as followers. I like sending random shit as followers, anyways, right? Yeah, um, so yeah, so lately I've been sending golf cards out as follow for the followers' Gibbies. Oh, yeah, the outs, the eight.

Dan: 1:02:21

Yeah, Joe was doing that for a minute.

Joe: 1:02:23

I was doing that. I was doing I was sending out 1991 uh PGA tour cards for a while. Um I I found a guy um in the east and he had he had 40 boxes, and I bought all the boxes.

SPEAKER_05: 1:02:36

No way, that's so that was absolute gold.

Joe: 1:02:38

That was my follower's giveaway for a long time, and um for a while uh it was costing me more because they're thicker and they don't go through the machine, yeah. Right. So it was an upgraded giveaway. If you bought something, you got one of those. But uh yeah, I need to hit him up and try and get some more because I think he has like 20 left. But that's what I was doing 1991 PGA tour cards as the followers.

SPEAKER_05: 1:03:03

Were you getting them like unopened packs and actually ripping packs open?

Joe: 1:03:08

Uh it was it was up to them if they wanted to rip it. We I sold a few, they could rip it live. Um ripping packs is the best thing, yeah. Yeah, I mean that's that's one of the biggest things on whatnot. So you know, right?

SPEAKER_05: 1:03:22

Okay, so nostalgia. Like, what's your guys' favorite all-time irons?

Joe: 1:03:30

Title is 962s, but those the one that Weston Mon uh redid.

Dan: 1:03:36

I think he redid the 962 B's. Oh, okay.

Joe: 1:03:41

Oh, yeah, the 962s. I've only been playing golf like so as a kid, my dad used to take me out occasionally. Um, and uh I had like a set from um Big Five, and there was a canyon I could not clear. I used my uncle's big birth. I cleared it, I said, Dad, I need new irons. Yeah, no. He said no. So I was like, okay, I'm done playing golf. I picked it back up. I went I went to a birthday party in 2017 at Top Golf, and uh my friend, I hit my my friend that knew golf, and uh he took me out to our local executive course. I hit a shot, got hooked, and like 2018. So I've only been playing playing for seven years, but fully, fully bugged, fully bugged. Dude, that's I love anything Mizuno though. Anything Mizuno is classic. I mean, obviously, and Mira, old Miras are fire.

SPEAKER_05: 1:04:35

I mean, you know, um, mp33s would be like my all-time faves right there. I I I just remember I had a set of MP14s that was like one of my very first like true sets I had. Like, I had some old precepts that I played with, and and then the Tommy Armor 845s, which everybody had those, right? And then I got some MP14s, and I thought I was pretty good. And then I finally got an M some MP33s, and I was like, bro, I mean, like, I felt like I showed up to the course and people thought I was good just based on those, you know.

Dan: 1:05:12

For sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:14

And man, I love those MP33s.

Dan: 1:05:16

Yeah, well, you had to be good to hit those, man. Those things are butter knives.

Joe: 1:05:20

They dude, they really are. Were those were those the ones with like the bullet grind in the cavity?

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:28

I think the MP33s are those are like 32s. 32s have that.

Joe: 1:05:33

Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:34

Yeah, 33s are like true, just muscle back, like yeah, yeah, traditional looking ones. Yeah, 32s got it.

Joe: 1:05:42

Nothing looks better than an MB, bro. Nothing looks better than a MB. Yeah, yeah, or a blade, or a blade putter.

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:50

Dude, amen to that too. I I used to love like um the I mean the 8802 look of the putter. Like, I I love those. I just thought those were phenomenal looking. And I and that was before I understood like what toe hang was and all, and that's like a massive toe hanger, right? Right, yeah, dude. I just miss a million putts pushing them all, and I'm like, dude, this putter sucks, bro.

Joe: 1:06:19

Yeah, yeah. What's your what's your dream putter that you don't own?

SPEAKER_05: 1:06:24

Um shoot. Probably like um I've been trying to get one of those uh T22 fastbacks.

Joe: 1:06:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 1:06:37

Like uh they they redid the original Terrillum um six years ago, I think it was when they came out with that T22. Um you see a lot of the like the Newport heads, um, but you don't see the fastback heads very often. And when you do, they're like 1500 or something crazy like that, right? Right. So I've I've been hoping to like come across one that's beat to shit and I'll fix it up.

SPEAKER_08: 1:07:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:07:03

Um but I haven't been able to like come across any of those reasonably otherwise, like my favorite putter is just the Terrillium long neck, the original one. Like, that's my favorite putter all time. Like that thing's a goat. I I just uh dude, I had one on on one of my shows a couple weeks ago. I had it as a givy, and dude, oh so I had like the ultimate putter day one one show where I had um an original TEI 3, just newport, and then I had the TEI 3 long neck also. I had them both in the same show, they were both buyers' giveaways. Uh same guy wins both of them.

Dan: 1:07:50

Oh man. Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_05: 1:07:52

Okay, amazing. And it's Jeremiah 19th Wall, who's cool. Yeah, yeah.

Joe: 1:07:57

Shout out to Jeremiah 19th wall, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:07:59

So Jeremiah's the man, and so then um Jeremiah's like, he lives middle of nowhere, Kansas. And he's like, uh, dude, I really want these. He's like, can you send um UPS to me? I'm like, yeah, absolutely, sure, no problem. He's like, they get here faster and they don't get hung up in our little local post office and what whatever. So I'm like, sure. So I take it down to this place. Um, I got this one place here that um it's like a little hub. Like they they take anything, FedEx, UPS, U USPS, everything, right? I take all my stuff there, drop off like everything's USPS except for the one package going to Jeremiah that's a UPS, but I can drop it off at the same place, bro. It's fine, it's missing. Dude, it it has never been scanned in.

Dan: 1:08:55

Oh man.

SPEAKER_05: 1:08:56

I'm like, two Terrelliums and one's like the grail. Uh-huh. I'm like, I don't want to say something going on, but like, is something fishy going on? You know, like, and I feel like it's and so then I talked to my boys at the post office. I see those guys all the time, and like I got like VIP service there. Like, I just go to the loading dock when I go there, and I just give it all straight to the dudes and everything, and I'm cool with all those guys. And so I was like, hey, I dropped these packages off at the like hub down here, and he was like, Well, that happens all the time. Like, we'll get UPS packages all the time, and we just put it in this UPS bin, and then UPS comes, pick us, picks it up sometime, and I'm like, bro, can I look through it? And he's like, Ah, I can't let you look through it. Like, come on, man.

Joe: 1:09:50

He's like, it's a banger box, bro.

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:53

Right? I'm like, Can you go look for it? He's like, There's so many. I'm like, all right, fair enough. And so it's like Christmas time, right?

Joe: 1:10:01

So oh, even worse.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:03

He's like, it'll show up. He's like, I promise it will show up someday. I'm like, I hope so.

Dan: 1:10:09

Someday, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:10

So two terriliums are just out in the wind right now. Damn, oh man, miserable, dude.

Dan: 1:10:18

That sucks. Yeah, shit.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:24

Yeah, I mean, I feel I'm I'm glad he didn't like buy buy them outright, yeah. Yeah, at least they were gives, but still, dude.

Joe: 1:10:33

Yeah, well, you want to deliver on what you yeah. I mean, yeah, especially him being him, too, as well. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:41

So yeah, yeah, he's such a good dude, too, and for it to happen to him.

SPEAKER_10: 1:10:46

Golly, that's miserable. So good, like two terrilles.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:52

Yeah, what are the chances that the same like you rarely see?

Joe: 1:10:57

That's insane. Yeah, that's insane.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:58

Right, and then he wins two terrilums. Yeah, that's unbelievable. Then they're missing.

Dan: 1:11:06

Yeah, I imagine that's the only time that's ever happened to you.

SPEAKER_05: 1:11:10

Correct.

Dan: 1:11:11

Yeah, that seems more than coincidental.

SPEAKER_05: 1:11:16

Yeah, and like I've shipped a million packages, right? They've uh like every one of them's got there.

Joe: 1:11:23

Yeah, that's a bummer. I've only had I've only had one where it was like a blue tea speaker or something that Dan gave me to sell, and um it it's I don't think it's showed up to this day. I still get emails like missing uh pack, and this was one like one of my first or second shows back in like May. Um they never found it. I I messaged the dude on in on whatnot, and uh he's never replied to me. I've sent him six messages, never replied to me, never got a bad review from it for it, but um, yeah, it's uh it's that whole world, that other side that people don't see is not easy, right? You know what I mean? Like, dude, packing shit and fucking taking four trips, you know.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:14

And yeah, every time we do a show, you're like, God, I'm gonna have to share this.

Joe: 1:12:20

Like afterwards, you're like, uh I still I did a show up Friday, and I I still have six ones I gotta figure out because I can't send a hat with a club and I can't is that not the worst, you know what I mean? And you gotta split it, and like, and it's like you gotta figure out it's a puzzle, which is kind of fun too, in a way, you know what I mean? Yeah, kind of fun, but when you're on a deadline, that sucks, dude. Like selling it's like the Marshalls there, Marshall's there. Hey, speed it up, bro. Speed it up, and you're playing like shit, you know right?

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:51

You got a timer. Oh, you have six hours to get this package in the mail. Oh my gosh, yeah, dude. But I learned that lesson the hard way. Like, I think it was one of my first shows. I was like, all right, dude, I'm just gathering stuff to sell, right? Sold like 20 hats along with like 20 clubs. Oh my god, yeah, and like 10 of them were like hat and club. And I was like, Oh, this is a nightmare. Okay, cool.

Joe: 1:13:14

Yeah, you only got you only got five free. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:17

Five free. Yeah, so never again. I just don't do that anymore. I all hats and no clubs, or don't mix and match that combo.

Joe: 1:13:29

Yeah, I mean, um, the uh three off the tee have a podcast, obviously. Uh Uncle Church, um, Smokey and Levi, they had Thrifty on, which we've also had Thrifty on back in the day, but um they thrifty talked about that. It's like I only do this show or this show, you know, so I don't have to deal with that. So it's one of those things.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:51

Uncle uh Uncle Church is the guy, he he got me into whatnot.

Joe: 1:13:56

Really? Well, yeah, because he's Tennessee too.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:58

He's a Tennessee dude.

Joe: 1:14:00

Church, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:14:01

Church is the man. He is um he lives about like hour and a half, two hours away from me. Okay, and um, so I like I was doing custom putters and I was just like tinkering around with them and doing them for people, and um then I just like throw them up on Facebook Marketplace, right? And then um Uncle started hitting me up and he's like, I'll take that one, I'll take this. Yeah, I'm like, and you're like, what are you doing with these? Cool, yeah. And then he dude, he ends up buying like 12 butters from me. I'm like, bro, what are you doing? Are you a collector? Like, what are you doing with this stuff? Yeah, and he was like, uh no, I sell them. I was like, it's not possible that you can sell these, like you're paying top dollar for this from me, right? Um, and he's like, No, I sell them on whatnot. I'm like, uh, what? Never even heard of this. So yeah, then he so then I started watching and I was like watching his shows, and I was like, Oh, that's how they sell them and make money. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, so then I started talking to him and I was like, dude, do you think I could do a show? Like, like, do I have enough stuff? He's like, Ah, dude, you don't need that much stuff. He's like, you know, like, dude, just put a Scotty out there, you can you can sell anything.

Dan: 1:15:20

Yeah, that's true. I mean, I like I said, I don't want to throw any names out there because I watch, you know, still watch some shows and stuff like that. But it's it's crazy what some of these people sell, like a little bit bags of teas and stuff like that. And they'll get$30,$40 for this shit just to get into you know the Gibby for a Scotty. It's it's crazy. It's it's crazy, but hey, you know, they people buy it, you sell it, you know.

SPEAKER_05: 1:15:44

It's yeah, it's hard to like. I mean, I feel like and um, I mean, Joe, Joe might be able to attest to this, like sure it can. Um like when I first started selling, which isn't that long ago, um like six months ago is all or so, right? Um but even then it it it wasn't that many like limited sales. Yeah, like it wasn't that it really wasn't, and everybody kind of had like a good structure to a show where they're like, you know, they might throw a limited in here and there, and but it was like a structured show to we're gonna sell clubs and some accessories and then some ball markers, and then we'll wrap the show up, basically, right? Yeah, yeah. And then um, I feel like um when golf superstore, and this is just my personal opinion. I I I don't know if this is fact or not, but like when golf superstore came on and kind of we were at we were at Wicopah playing when no, that was the stick when the stick popped up on his first show.

Joe: 1:17:00

We were playing at Wicopah, me and Dan uh and Jeremy and uh Matt. But yeah, and golf superstore was around the same time, so that was August area.

SPEAKER_05: 1:17:10

And when and when they popped on and all of a sudden, like throw out 200 clubs, and it was like, and then there they do it the next day and the next day and the next day, and it's like all of a sudden the market got just like flooded with clubs, right? And so now then, like a week later, like I'm selling clubs, and I'm like, bro, I can't even sell these clubs for anything, right? Like it was like instantly, like, whoa, what just happened? It like that switch I felt like flipped real quick. Oh, yeah, and then it was like, Okay, what do you do now? Um, you either run a game, uh, because that's just what everybody started doing, and because I kind of had like a set schedule every week, like doing two shows, like and the structure to them, and then I just kind of like chilled out on doing as many shows, and um just really I I feel like kind of the same as you do, like you're pushing people to the the podcast platform, and and I kind of look at a show now as like it's marketing to me, right? Like if I make a couple bucks, and um, but I just you know I sell people to do custom stuff, and now I can do a lot of different custom stuff and just get a lot that way, and not really looking at doing a show in the same way as it used to be in any way, shape, or form. Yeah, looking at it like a tool, yeah, yeah, definitely in that regard, and then just kind of like, can you I mean, and I guess I can like I I like doing like I truly enjoy doing the shows where I'm just painting and just talking and not selling a single thing.

SPEAKER_10: 1:18:53

Me too, me too.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:55

I really like those. I mean, you don't make any money, but I guess in a way I do, like you know, like I'll always snag.

Joe: 1:19:02

You'll get a few orders from it, I'm sure, you know, right?

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:05

Absolutely. Um, but yeah, I I don't I don't enjoy all the games that are on there as much anymore. And yeah, like I really used to enjoy like watching a lot of people's shows, and there's still like some really good ones out there. I I think like like Tom and Valley and Cody and Levi, um yeah, all run good, like solid shows still, yeah, right? Of course and well, like the stick does too. And there's some other ones out there, but those are like but I only really watch those dudes because everything else is just a game. Yeah, now I do like Go Terps' games because he's entertaining. Entertaining extremely entertaining. I love watching his shows.

Dan: 1:19:55

Absolutely nut.

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:56

He's absolute psychopath for sure.

Dan: 1:19:58

Yeah, he really is.

SPEAKER_05: 1:20:00

It really is.

Joe: 1:20:01

So I I think what happened was is uh the golf category on there captured so many people so quickly, and so many people got infatuated with it that they had this uh stock of shit they didn't even want. Right. So they're like, I can be a seller, I can do this, I'll do 30 spots and I'll give away this Scotty buyers I won, or I can go buy a spider ZT at the store for 450, and then I'll just get rid of all these fucking stupid ass sleeves that I bought, right? You know, and I'll make my money back, or I'll win, or I might lose a little, but I'm still mostly out of the hole. And you go on every day, uh, and there's people I've never even heard of. Right. First time I've ever seen them, and uh, you know, and it's uh it's one of those things. It's uh you have to uh to be to get into uh the community or whatever is you have to you have to show up support. You don't have to buy, you can just be there and support. And um I think that's what uh I think there's gonna be more coming next year because this shit is not dying. I don't I don't see this shit dying uh anytime soon, right? If you're thinking about being a seller, you need to I watched for a year uh before uh I even jumped on there. No kidding. I I signed up six before I started selling. I signed up six months before. Wow, and um, because my buddy Mass Appeal Golf, if you guys are OG, like you probably might know him, but he's my buddy in Indiana, lives near French lick, need to go play with him. Um, he said he sent me a link. He's like, come watch my show. So I jumped in, signed up for whatnot, watched his show every show because he's like my in real life homie. Bought stuff off of him. I think I got some he sold what he was selling Pete Diet books. I got a couple of those up there. Um, and then you know, he's hit Mario was his intro as well because shout out Chip and Putt absolutely. Um, but I I I signed up, watched his shows, didn't really hang out in the golf space. I I'm into vinyl, so I went into the vinyl and then I was grilling in the backyard. Literally, I remember it cooking a steak, and I was watching somebody, I'm not gonna say any names, but he was yelling at me, and I was like, Why the fuck are you yelling at me right now? I'm cooking a steak, I'm trying to enjoy my night, trying to make dinner, and I was like, Cook, finish cooking the steak, and I said, I'm going in my garage and selling my shit because I have shit in the garage. That's literally what happened, and I had no idea what I was doing. Sold it, and I was like, you know, I made like a thousand bucks or something off of just sitting around, and I was like, Right, that was fucking fun, right?

SPEAKER_05: 1:22:57

Right, right.

Joe: 1:22:58

It's addicting on both on both sides because that's a lot of fun for the seller, and it's a lot of fun for the buyers, you know. It's a chase, and uh, yeah, that's my story.

SPEAKER_05: 1:23:10

Amen. Like I enjoy I enjoy doing a show, and I try to have as much fun as possible, and I do a lot of stupid stuff, you know. Like I had a chainsaw running in my garage the other night on the show, so I mean that's like some of the dumb stuff I do, right? Um yeah, whatever. But I I enjoy the show part of it, um, for sure. The behind the scenes stuff, not so much. Um, but it is definitely like a chase for sure, in in both ways. Like, yeah, you're chasing, like, dude, how much can I make tonight? If can I get to this? And you have those good nights, you're like, dude, this is awesome, and then you get kicked in the dick a couple times, and that sucks too, you know.

Joe: 1:23:54

Yeah, I mean, I fucking won this. I spent 30 bucks in the plastic still, plasti boys, plastiboys, grip stone plastic from my boy The Slice, who I'm sure you've seen him. He's in our like golf league. We have a hundred player golf league in Vegas, and he's in our golf league. He's IRL IRL homie, but like 30 bucks, and it's like you do that once and you're like, you're hooked.

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:20

Yep, exactly. Yep, absolutely. You're like, tonight, I feel lucky. I'm just let me play a couple of games tonight, real quick.

Joe: 1:24:30

I I do it once or twice a week, you know. Like we live in Vegas, so like I'll you know, I can easily go to the craps table and play 60-80 bucks. So I just you know, I play it support the people that support me and play it every once in a while, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:46

Agree. It's wild though. Um Dan, where are you at again?

Dan: 1:24:54

I'm in Vegas.

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:55

You're in Vegas too. So y'all are yeah, cool.

Dan: 1:24:57

Yeah, yeah. I was about 15 minutes from jail.

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:01

Gotcha, yeah.

Joe: 1:25:03

Uh no podcast giveaway tonight. I don't know how to do it, Austin, so I don't know how to do that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:09

Tennessee golf association has a state event in uh Vegas every year. Oh and it's out at it's out at Paiute.

Joe: 1:25:21

Oh, yeah. Yeah. The best track.

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:25

Yeah, so it's a three-day event and it's a four-man best ball. Well, actually, it's actually five five because you have a pro. So it's uh it's like a pro am where you have a pro as your fifth, and that's uh that's a lot of fun out there.

Dan: 1:25:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:44

Sounds fun, but yeah, it's pretty random that we have a state event in Nevada, but yeah, that's interesting. It works out, it's pretty cool. So um but that's the only course I've ever played out there.

Joe: 1:25:57

Oh, it's well, it's probably the one that you should play. So you did well. We actually so me and Matt, who's not here tonight, um we met via Instagram, uh just Vegas Golf Instagram, but um we threw a tournament out there. I had the towel here. It was called P. Passed away, it was called Legends Never Die. And we were supposed to play all three in one day. They had one of the courses um closed in the middle of summer. We played 54 holes. No, 36 holes. We were trying to play 54, but that's where we met Dan. Legends never die, July 11th, 2020. How hot was it that day? It was hot, it was very hot.

Dan: 1:26:44

It was hot, 108 or 110 or something like that, right?

Joe: 1:26:48

But uh, that's where we met, you know. We mean me and uh 1440 in the house. He also is giving you a shout out. Thanks for saying Nevada properly. Um but yeah, I think we need to do that again. That would be awesome.

Dan: 1:27:02

Um, Adrian. Pieute.

SPEAKER_05: 1:27:04

Yeah. What what's your guys' have you guys played a few other P dye courses?

SPEAKER_08: 1:27:11

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_05: 1:27:13

There's some more in Vegas, too. Is there okay? What's your favorite P dye?

Joe: 1:27:17

Some of them are some of them are PB dye, but probably PJ West P dye for me.

SPEAKER_05: 1:27:24

Uh I've I've heard great things about that. I've never gotten out there yet.

Dan: 1:27:28

Yeah, that's a good one. That's a real good one.

Joe: 1:27:31

I'd have to think. What other P dyes at what P dyes have I played out of Vegas? I'm not even sure. What's your favorite course architect?

SPEAKER_05: 1:27:44

Um I'd say Donald Ross. I I really like old ballparks a lot. I'm I'm a big fan of old old style courses, and I like I like park style courses a lot. That's and that's a lot Donald Ross right there. So I'd say, yeah, Donnie's the man. And we got a lot of them in the south.

Joe: 1:28:09

Oh, yeah, no, you do. Have you ever played uh Southern Pines?

SPEAKER_05: 1:28:15

Um in Oklahoma?

Joe: 1:28:17

No, it's right outside of uh Pine Hurst. Outside of Pinehurst.

SPEAKER_05: 1:28:20

Yeah, outside of Pine Hurst. No, not yeah, that one. What's Oklahoma that I was thinking about? You're probably thinking uh Southern Hills. Southern Hills, yeah, there you go.

Joe: 1:28:29

No, Southern Pines I've not when Mito Pereira quit playing golf because he hit a badass shot at the PJ Church. Blew it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:28:36

No, haven't played Southern Pines. I've played a lot of those courses in that area, like um pine needles is really good there. Yeah, we played pine needles tobacco roads, interesting. Love, love that.

Dan: 1:28:51

Love me some Mike Strands. Mike.

SPEAKER_05: 1:28:55

Um, the course I worked at when I first started my coffee shop in uh Chapel Hill. I worked at Hope Valley Country Club, which is in Durham, and that's a Donald Ross course, like 1926 or something like that. And that place was super dope. Love that place.

SPEAKER_10: 1:29:14

Um, yeah, Donald Ross Turtleback, Turtleback Donnie.

SPEAKER_05: 1:29:19

Yeah, yeah, right. Um, yeah, but Pete Dye, like I played Sawgrass, and I really enjoy sawgrass a lot.

Joe: 1:29:28

It's I think it's really creative, it's really wild, especially from the air. I would love to play it. It's just so expensive now.

SPEAKER_05: 1:29:35

Yeah, it's too crazy. It's not as like diabolical, I feel like. Like it's it's very fair. I feel like sawgrass is it's hard, but it's fair and it's it's but like I played whistling straight. Nice and whistling is like it's just and and I I feel like whistling when you play it, you're every T box you're standing there, and you're like, where do I hit the ball?

SPEAKER_01: 1:30:04

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_05: 1:30:06

Like you're just staring at a hundred bunkers, right? And you don't see a fair way. And I and like I think I hate more than anything not being able to see my ball down off the tee, like hate it more. I just hate it, and you can't ever hardly ever see your ball down off the tee there. But whistling is actually like fairly wide open off the tee. You just don't know where you're hitting it. And now that's that and like then French Lick, which is the other Pete Dye one. Um honestly, I really like the course is beautiful and it's amazing, but I I'm not really that big of a fan.

Joe: 1:30:42

I've I've heard I've heard that from other people. Like, French Lick is like okay, yeah, it's uh it's like too hard, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:30:51

Okay, too too big of a mind mindfuck. Yeah, see that, but it's beautiful, it's amazing in so many other ways. Yeah, Pete's wild, man. He did a lot of crazy stuff out there.

Joe: 1:31:05

He really he dude, he did a lot of work in his lifetime, too, man. No doubt, a lot of work.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:12

No doubt.

Dan: 1:31:13

Yeah, I want to play French look.

Joe: 1:31:15

Yeah, I want to get to French look too.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:17

Yeah, and um, yeah, French Lick isn't that far from us here.

Joe: 1:31:22

I mean, I feel like it's yeah, yeah, it's not too bad.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:25

I I think I feel like it's only like four or five hours away from us or so, something like that.

Joe: 1:31:31

Um, yeah, it's pretty close.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:33

I'll tell you one that's really cool. I'm not sure who the course designer was, but um Victoria National, which is in Indiana. Yeah, and bro, you want to talk about like hard. I feel like that is the hardest course I played, and I played a whole bunch of maybe outside of Tory. I played Tory a few times, and Tori's like hard. There he is. There he is.

Dan: 1:32:04

My buddy Travis, he's a member at um he's a member at Valhalla. So uh he I know that it's not too far, Louisville's not too far from where Victoria National is. Yeah, and uh he was telling us that if we ever get in that area that we might be able to hook up Victoria National because he knows a few members that are out there.

SPEAKER_05: 1:32:26

Um Papa Bear's a member at Victoria.

Joe: 1:32:30

Uh oh, fucking Papa Bear. Why are you so why are you hiding all these fucking secrets, Papa? I know you're listening right now. So there you go.

SPEAKER_05: 1:32:36

So Papa's uh Papa's your inn. Six. Yeah, you heard it.

Dan: 1:32:43

Check off Zen. You're our in.

SPEAKER_05: 1:32:44

Papa's Papa's your in, dude. He dude, he loves going to play. Like, I'll I mean, you talk to him and he's like, Oh, I'm just going up to Evansville for the day. I mean, it's not that far from us. I I don't know. It's I don't know, maybe three hours at the most. I think it's like two, two and a half, something like that. So yeah, he'll just pop up there for a day, go play. Just pop a bear up there, real quick. Yeah, just pop a bear up there real quick. But that place is hard.

Dan: 1:33:10

Is there another course around that area called like uh Chariot's Run or something like that?

Joe: 1:33:15

Um Indiana, it's Indiana.

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:19

I think it's near French Lick. No kidding, okay. Yeah, I'm not familiar with that one. Dude, the other cool thing about Victoria is it's all bent grass.

Joe: 1:33:28

Yeah, yeah, we don't have a ton of that out here, dude.

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:32

Yeah, and we don't at all. I mean, you get anything, and you you guys live anywhere, and I mean, and we live in the heat too, and do you just don't get to see grass like that very often, yeah.

Joe: 1:33:44

So it's the best, and it's the best.

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:46

Yeah, there's nothing like it. I mean, I grew up up north, and so I played on Bent my whole life, and then when I moved to Dallas, and I saw like that. And I was like, what is this?

SPEAKER_08: 1:33:58

This is horrific.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:00

Like, I don't this is terrible. This is really the grass you guys put on. Like, this is unbelievable.

SPEAKER_08: 1:34:05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:07

Um yeah, that was crazy.

SPEAKER_08: 1:34:11

Yeah.

Joe: 1:34:14

Well, we're uh we're at an hour and 36 minutes. I'm sure dad's having an absolute aneurysm right now. So uh I think we're gonna have to end it, but I think I think you need to hit up Elon and you and Papa come back because you guys have golf knowledge like we do. We love golf on this podcast. Um, so I think you guys should come back one day uh when when uh Matt is here because I'm sure he's bubbling with questions for you guys. Um for sure. Right? Am I right for sure? For sure. He's probably I I I didn't know this backstory, you know. So yeah, that's what's awesome.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:57

I would love to talk golf, and dude, I can get into the weeds about like Dallas Dallas golf stories. Like, I got so many amazing ones from down there, like from all the dudes I played with and all the degenerate gambling games that that like when you see PGA tour players like and the level of gambling that some of these dudes are doing on the course, and you're sitting here like oh my god, they're playing for yeah, 10,000 on this hole.

Joe: 1:35:26

Yeah, like yeah, I'm sure what is going on?

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:29

Yeah, yeah, you're just happy to be a fly on the wall in those situations, you know.

Joe: 1:35:33

Absolutely, man. I mean, you know, learn as much as you can and enjoy the moment.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:37

That's what yeah, those are so those are the good old days for sure, right there.

Joe: 1:35:42

But I think I think uh I I think you need to come back and uh dude anytime would love to. So much fun. Hey, plug anything you want to plug, because then you know, when when the outro goes by me, I don't know what I'm gonna say. So, whatever you gotta do, now's your moment. Tell the entire world and the millions of listeners that listen to the Chase Did I podcast every week what you're doing.

SPEAKER_05: 1:36:06

Absolutely. The millions of you out there, I appreciate you guys tuning in, checking out my boys Joe and Dan. Like, no, I'm just happy to be here and just have able to happy to be talking about golf a little bit. And um, I mean, I have a huge passion for golf, and I could sit in my garage and tinker with golf clubs all day. And I would love to um like I enjoy the stories of like putters, like, and that's mainly what I do now is just customize putters and restore putters and bring them back to life. And like um uh I enjoy really like the backstory that so many people the emotional ties they have to their equipment and to putters. Um, I did a putter for a guy that um it was his dad's putter, he lost him to cancer, and then we redid the putter and brought it back and restored it. Like cool stuff like that. Um yeah, I'm I'm doing uh I'm doing a phantom in and it's gonna look like a a blue angel for a Navy guy, and he's retiring after this year, and this is like his his gift to himself after 23 years, like in there, and like so I get to do it's like sometimes you're like this, and you're like, damn, I gotta take this like seriously, right? Yeah, like I can't mess this up.

Dan: 1:37:32

Like, this is like it's gonna be very meaningful for somebody, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:37:36

Right. And so I really enjoy that, and like I try to have a lot of fun and mess around and I I joke around a lot, but I I take what I do like seriously, and I really enjoy the customization and and the stories. And I I think golf is it's a forever game, and so you're tied to so many different things for life, whether it's equipment or I mean playing with your dad and your friends and your grandfather and all the people that brought you into this game. Um, I think like that side of it is is so cool, and I get to be a part of that. So I'm happy to be able to be a part of that and helping like fix up people's old putters and bring them back to life. And I think that's super cool. So I just get a big kick out of that, and I'm happy to uh take on anybody's anybody's stories that they want and bring them back to life at uh jet golf, you know.

Joe: 1:38:33

Yeah, well, thank you so much for being here, guys. On Instagram, you can follow you can follow uh David at JetPutters on Instagram. So go there, you can see a lot of his work there. Um, and I wholeheartedly agree with what you're saying. Um, and if you're a nutso putter aficionado, go back into the archives, listen to the uh episode with Olson Golf, uh Olson Putters, uh Goodwood. Uh we've had Bradley on, um Garson, Sam, Sam, just yeah, Sam from Lab Long. Um, so go back into the archives, listen to those, and follow Jet Golf Jet Putters, right?

SPEAKER_05: 1:39:16

Yep, Jet Putters on uh IG. Yep. Bookmark and whatnot.

Dan: 1:39:20

Follow bookmark the shows.

Joe: 1:39:22

Yeah, follow bookmark the shows. It's free, it's very easy. That's doesn't cost you anything. Um, but go go go look at the work and um yeah, follow and bookmark our shows.

Dan: 1:39:34

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Joe: 1:39:37

Subscribe to the Chase and Daylight podcast, throw comments, no giveaway tonight, but we always do a giveaway. We have a full bag of Garson stuff to give away here. Um, when dad is back to look at this boy right here, little Tony Pino. Oh, that is Moni. So we got a bunch, we got a bunch to give away. Shout out, Garson. Uh, you can go get putters there using code daylife or putter grips, um, using code daylife. 15 shout out Carson. Um and uh yeah thank you guys for tuning in. This was episode 359, which is absolutely blows my mind all the time. Uh next week it's gonna be 360, it's gonna be 2026. I hope everybody has an incredible 2026. Uh we'll see you next week. We'll see you on whatnot, we'll see you on the gram, and uh make sure you have a safe and happy new year. Until next week. Let me do the try and do this at the same time. We'll catch you later.