The Chasing Daylight Podcast: Golf Talk, PGA Tour & Gear

362: Callaway Quantum Deep Dive, Matt’s Cyborg Knee, and Bryson’s LIV Contract

Mathew Wangrycht & Joe Keith Episode 362

Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.

0:00 | 1:17:12

Send us Fan Mail

What is up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast! 

This week, the boys are breaking down the biggest equipment news of early 2026. Matt brings the heat with an exclusive in-hand look at the new Callaway Quantum driver lineup. We dive deep into the tech, including the new "polymesh" material, the 14% thinner face, and the unique weighting system that is changing the game. Is it actually better than the Ai Smoke? Matt shares his personal fitting numbers and ball speed gains to prove it.

In this episode:

  • The PGA Show Report: Roars is on the ground in Orlando, and the verdict is in—attendance is down, and the show floor feels different this year.
  • Callaway Quantum Reveal: A full breakdown of the Quantum Max, Max D, and the Triple Diamond. Plus, we look at the new adjustable lie angles on fairway woods and the new Opus Max irons.
  • Golf News & Rumors: We discuss the insane rumor regarding Bryson DeChambeau seeking a $500 million contract renewal with LIV and thoughts on the future of the league.
  • Life Updates: Matt is 21 days away from his total knee replacement and becoming a "cyborg".
  • Giveaways: Congratulations to our first-time listener, Anthony, for winning the Garson Golf giveaway!.

Sponsors:

  • Garson Golf: The best putter grips on the planet. Use code Daylight15 to save money.

Shout Out to:

  • Precision Pro: Check out the new Titan Elite rangefinders and their new magnetic speakers.


Special thank goes out to our show sponsor:

🏌️‍♂️ Garsen Grips - https://garsengolf.com


CDP Socials:

https://www.instagram.com/chasingdaylightpodcast/

https://x.com/CDPGolfShow

https://www.facebook.com/chasingdaylightpodcast

https://www.tiktok.com/@chasingdaylightpodcast


Follow the Chasing Daylight Crew:

Mathew Wangrycht: https://www.instagram.com/fourteen40golf/

Joe Keith: https://www.instagram.com/hittingreens/

Jeremy Martin: https://www.instagram.com/jeremymart/

Dan Hodges: https://www.instagram.com/bogey_free_62/

Support the show

SUBSCRIBE TO CDP PREMIUM
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1871697/subscribe


Warmup, Sponsors, And Giveaways

Matt

What is up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. Thank you so much for joining us. We're here to bring you golf chatter, banter, stories, tells, lies, scams, all that shit. We're here for you. Uh starting off the show, real quickly, want to thank Garz and Golf. Garzing Golf. The best putter grip on the planet. Check them out at the PGA show if you're there this week. Go see Bernie. Go say hi. Tell him you found out about them on the Chasing Daylight podcast. And that would make us incredibly happy. But you will also see. Oh, by the way, uh, Daylight 15. Use the code Daylight 15. Save yourself some money on the orders. And make sure you're following Joe's whatnot shows because he likes to sell grips on there as well. And we'll also be giving away a grip tonight. So make sure that uh Grip tonight. I caught that too. Grip tonight. Grip tonight. You'll also see behind me a wall of goodness. Special shout out. These folks right here. Precision pro. Big shout out. Not only did we did they send us some of the new Titan Elites to try out, they also sent us some of their speakers to try out as well. Yeah. Nice little speaker. These face plates are interchangeable. They got different colors you can get. Got a magnet on it. And if you have this, paired with this and paired with the app, the rangefinder will give you front, back, and center locations. Awesome. And then there's a little button on the side here called the golf button. It'll do audible tell you front and back.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. That's cool.

Joe

So which one is challenge? This is the one I have, right? That's the one I have. That's what we got. Titan Elites. I mean it's Titan Elite.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

Joe

There we go. Bam. So I'll probably be getting rid of this one at some point on whatnot. What up, Juju? Shout out Precision Pro. What up, Juju?

Matt

Hey. Juju's in the house. Juju's in the house.

SPEAKER_03

Shut up, Precision Pro. That's that's awesome that they did that.

PGA Show Buzz And Industry Trends

Matt

And we're gonna have them on the show. I think it's hell yeah. Let's go. I think it's next week. I think it's next week. We're gonna because they're at the PGA show right now. So they're gonna give us a people are a lot of people are yeah, an in-depth behind the scenes of what's going on on the PGA show floor. Uh Roars is out there today at the demo day. It was kind of sad. There's not a lot of people there. A lot of brands that used to go are not investing that money much anymore. So kind of a bust nowadays. It's sad because man, back when I was going, that place was packed.

Joe

I really wanted to try and go this year because there's a lot of the people from uh whatnot out there. Um take five was a big but just you know, yeah. Take five's out there, thrifties out there, Davies out there.

Matt

Uh the next three days are gonna be uh Yeah, I mean uh Jay looks like you have to get on the uh the marshalling quick. Don't be that popular as it drives around.

Joe

I'm excited. I saw Power Built out there, uh Ryan and Trevor out there building booths. So uh I mean, dude, some of their irons look sick. I'm I'm really excited to see what uh people bring back from this show because there's a lot of avenues and new people in the game and in the industry that there might be some things coming out of it. And tune into golf channel too, because they're they go live from PGA show and show you some stuff.

Matt

So yeah, they'll be there every morning. So much to see. It's a massive space. And uh, I think we're gonna try and go next year, all of us. So uh we'll work out the particulars for that.

Joe

But uh I've always wanted to go, always have so much, it's so much fun.

Matt

It's I mean, it's it's a golfer's nerd paradise. I mean, you've you see all the brands that you wear, all the hat brands that you wear, the shoe brands that you wear, the clubs you play, everybody's there, and you get to meet a lot of really fun.

Joe

Shoes you wear, shout out True Links wear. We we got a we got a little update on that the other week.

Matt

So yeah, yeah, that just came out. That they got a new shoe coming out. Uh that'll be and it it looked pretty good. It looks pretty good. They're getting to that comfort, relaxed golf look.

Joe

So I like it. I like it. Bye, bud. I don't know if you had a question, a 185, but uh see you later. Thanks for jumping in.

Matt

It's always um what's wrong with some of these people?

Joe

Holy fuck. Just putting the band hammer down tonight, folks. It's always in it's always in Orlando, Vic.

Matt

Always in Orlando, every year, every year at this time, always in Orlando. So it they used to they used to do a fall one here in Vegas, and then it kind of got weaker and weaker and weaker and weaker. It used to have the demo day at Cascada, and then they'd have the the merchandise shows, what they'd call it, uh apparel and merchandise around the bands, Venetian, and uh it was fun. But uh all right, out of all of you, who's got the longest drive and how far is it? That's between Dan and Jeremy.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, Dan and Jeremy. Joe and the sim in Montana was pretty yeah, it was uh that's the longest drive ever. Yeah, yeah.

Long Drives, Leaks, And What’s New

Matt

500 yards on him, Bob 534. Yeah, something like that. Something like that. So uh yeah, just stay tuned and all the socials, everybody's gonna be out there. It's yeah, some great coverage. All the clubs that have been leaked and gone over, you know, the cheese grater the last couple weeks, they're all there now. So everything's out of the embargoes. I have all the Callaway driver heads here with me tonight. We can talk about those. Um, we can talk about anything else. Uh, but uh I know we've had a lot of requests for people to from people asking us to provide them with some you know in-depth stuff on the new Callaway gear once it came out. So I have it here. So if anybody has any Callaway quantum questions, I got them all right here. So this is the quantum question.

Joe

He's been waiting months for this.

Callaway Quantum Driver Line Overview

Matt

This is the quantity. Do you know how long I've been sitting on this? God, it's hard.

Joe

You've had them for what a month and a half, two months.

Matt

Well, we've known about the name since gosh, late October.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

Matt

And uh then we saw the head early December. Um, but yeah, then we got our fitting heads in. So that's the quantum max, and I'll I'll blow up my screen for everybody if they need me to. Uh, then we have the quantum max D, which is similar. Like I said, if you guys want me to, I'll break down each one. Then we'll go, let's see. I'll show you this. The triple diamond. This is the the first one that has the complete carbon all the way around. So all of them have the same top this year. There's it's not different. There's no matte finish, no gloss finish. It looks a lot like the AI Smoke. It's the same pattern that was on the AI smoke. So see what lights I have there.

Joe

Really, really good.

Matt

Yeah.

Joe

And uh also I see people jumping out of there, uh, out of here. We're giving away something tonight. You gotta just do a comment and be here for the when we announce it. Just say all right. We're gonna give something away at the end of the night, throw a comment out there and be present when we pull it at the end of the show.

Matt

This is the exciting news for everybody. Instead of waiting for this to come out later on in the summer, the triple diamond max is gonna be available right out the gate. So that is an exciting thing for a lot of people. Looks like it really does. Something different they did this year is the max fast, which is our lightweight senior female, uh, people who can't swing it fast, head, they did the complete carbon surround as well. So the max fast looks just like the triple diamond in appearance, but it doesn't have any of the adjustable weights set up super draw by is super lightweight. So that's really nice. And then I also brought along the fairway woods. That's that's the three wood. That's the normal the three wood triple diamond looks exactly the same, except the weight port up front was. Is that just the max? Same yeah, max is their their stock line that or max is the same thing as the like the elite. So they didn't do just quantum, it's quantum max.

SPEAKER_05

So which I don't know why, but is there only two fairways, the max and the triple diamond, or are they there's a max fast also. Do they make? Okay. Um and do they make the triple diamond and a high launch?

Dan

Okay. No, and any high launch three woods or 16.5s or anything coming out? Yeah.

Matt

Yeah, okay. Yep, there's a high launch. I didn't bring it because it looks it looks exactly like this, except it's just 16 and a half.

Joe

How low, how low down the ladder are they gonna go? They're obviously gonna do seven woods, nine woods.

Fairway Woods, Hybrids, And Lofts

Matt

Seven woods, uh, there is a nine wood, and the heavenwood, and then it just goes into hybrids. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know, triple diamond will be seven wood, right? They'll have a triple diamond, seven wood.

Matt

Yeah, uh five, three, five, and seven. Yes. Interesting. So I mean, I really like this colorway. It's it's got that air aircraft gray. It's it's different. The I think the the all carbon bottom, you know, the complete 100% carbon is it's just stunning. And let me blow this up so people can see it.

Dan

Yeah, it looks dope.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it looks really good.

Dan

Beautiful.

unknown

There we go.

Dan

Yeah, that's fucking sick. Yeah, yeah, I yeah.

Matt

I mean, they did they did a really good job with it. It's cleany boys, cleany boys. Cleany, cleany boys. Yeah, it's it's it's beautiful. And then here I can show you the Stams. Wow, Isaiah, what's I haven't seen you in a while, buddy. But this is the one of the unique, unique things that Callaway has done this year is the weighting system. You can see there's red and black.

Dan

Yeah.

Matt

Uh one USB C drives.

Joe

Yeah, the USB C port.

Matt

USB C drives. That was so funny. So the red one is nine grams, the black one is one gram, and you can swap those back and forth to help with the draw bias, fade bias. Uh, neutral and draw is what they call it. And then the uh the triple diamonds are neutral and fade because the triple diamonds are fade bias heads. Hit it today, real solid. Yeah, Trey was out there today playing with Julian. So go back to this.

Joe

I'm excited to see them. I mean it's always a great compare.

Design Details: Carbon, Weights, And Face Tech

Matt

Yeah. Well, so what we've seen, what we've seen. So uh I'll explain this to everybody. So what what they've done on the face is very unique. And it's from what I've known and what I've heard, it hasn't been done before in golf. So uh most of the faces on all drivers are titanium, minus the new Mizuno and Taylor made with their all carbon. Uh so titanium, they they just everybody likes the way titanium reacts. Uh, but they were trying to increase the ball speed with it, and they thinned it out, right? They made it 14% thinner. And there's a little, I found out today there's a little Easter egg on this. Let me see where I can find it at. Greenly. What up, Greenley? What up, Greenley? So, right here you can see in the in the white, right there, it says 1417. Yeah, so the the face is 14% thinner, and the face is 17% more responsive. So that's a little little Easter egg they put on there. Uh, so the the face is made up of three materials. They they thinned it out, but then they were finding out that it was at highest speeds, at that thin of a face, it was cracking too too too soon. Uh so they had their engineers develop this. It is so funny, they say military grade, and everybody in the comments is like, I was in the military. That's bullshit. Military grade is as cheap as possible we can get it done. So uh, but they they created this material called polymesh, and that helps bond the carbon, which is the third layer, to the titanium face. So it's the carbon layer access support to the titanium face for the flexing, deflecting speed, energy, and pushing it back out.

Dan

And I was gonna ask when the face says 17% thinner, is it thinner than the elite, or is it thinner than just the average or 14?

Matt

14, yeah, 14% thinner than the elite face. Yeah, they thinned it out that much.

Joe

How close are they to the threshold?

SPEAKER_03

Because the threshold, how much more room do they got?

Matt

Well, that's the thing. You can't, I mean, the the limits have been maxed out, you know. It's yeah, you can't you can't do anything. You got to find different ways to create speed. So that's right, yeah. You know, you can only swing it so fast and have an efficiency number, you know, that that that doesn't exceed certain specs, and so they're trying to find different ways around that. And this is one of the ways that they've done it to having a super responsive face that transports a lot of energy into the ball. And uh it's I mean, it's it feels really good. I was surprised. I you know, I wasn't expecting the world, but you know, it's been pretty impressive.

Joe

So you're you're a cow, you're you you're a callaway guy, you're a company fan. Company man. Is it is it actually better? And is it actually better than AI Smoke? So what I still like AI smoke over Elite, personally.

Matt

Yeah, oh Julian's the same way. He feels the same way, and uh a lot of people feel that way. I took my shaft when we did our uh staff fittings at Dragon Ridge. I took my staff or my shaft and my head in and hit you know 10-15 balls. Shaft and head took your balls and uh then I I put it on I tried the triple diamond, the triple diamond max, and the and the max, the standard max. And I saw the best results with this head, the max head. Uh and based on similarity, same shaft, same swing time, everything, I I saw an increase of about six to seven miles an hour ball speed. Which for me, you know, I'm flirted, you know, one yeah, I flirt at 146 to 150 in my ball speed. So getting that up to 156, 157, it's that's a game changer for me. You know, it's I'm not blasting 300 yard drives now automatically, but I am seeing more ball speed. And then I played the new Callaway ball, which is pretty damn good too. And uh I saw some good stuff.

Dan

Did you did you guys happen to see uh Roger Steele's numbers when hitting the quantum and the elite?

Joe

I saw I saw a video of him, I don't recall.

Ball Speed, Spin Drops, And Fitting Results

Dan

He had like 30 yards in difference. He was hitting like 350 carries and stuff like that, you know, and still having like 2100 and 2200 percent or 2200 um like RPMs and stuff. And he was getting called out by, I guess, some of his people. So he went like did like a whole video where he just shot it all unedited, just swapping heads and all that stuff. But if you can gain something considerable like that, 30 miles 30 yards, or Matt's case, six, seven miles per hour in ball speed. That's a that's a fucking huge, huge thing. Yeah, yeah, that is a game changer.

Matt

I mean, Julian was hitting Julian was hitting 190 ball speed with rage balls at dragon. Julian's a freak.

Dan

I love you, Juju. Listen, and I mean it, I mean it in the best way, but you are an absolute clown show freak, bro, when it comes to hitting hitting a driver. The stuff that the stuff that Julian does also a lefty ridiculous with golf clubs. So, yeah, him hitting 190 does not surprise me one bit because I'm sure he can probably do that with every golf club.

SPEAKER_03

Me neither.

Dan

Juju is an athlete beast.

Matt

Yeah, so we we were at Summit a couple weekends ago.

Joe

Oh, look, Eric, Eric just said Dragon Ridge, LOL name drop, and then he dropped summit.

Matt

So we were at Summit, and one of the guys is playing a GT3, titleist GT3, and he's good good player, good swing speed, and he was hitting the ball and it was like really high. And so we put him on the monitor, and he was he was spinning at like 4400, right? And the the ball just it would climb and hit a wall, and so they have a green that was out there at like 240, and so his ball would land and it'd stay on the green, right? And so then we put him in, I think it was the triple diamond max. It's triple diamond or triple diamond max, and he was flying the green, and the ones that he didn't fly the green would bounce and then shoot off, and his spin dropped to like 2800. You know, it's it's it's insane how much better people are hitting it when when you get it dialed in. And this is what's the biggest surprise is this head, the max head, massive reduction in spin with this thing. I mean, it is insane what we're seeing. Just somebody coming in with their their club, 4,500 to 5,000 spin, put this in and it drops by 2,000. It's it's incredible. So super forgiving, low spin. I think this, I think, just from what I've seen in the people that I've been fitting, I've seen less spin with this than with the triple diamond. It's crazy. Yeah, triple diamond is is 450cc and the other ones are 460.

SPEAKER_05

That's not bad. And then they're the triple diamond, triple diamond max, does it kind of have the same sort of triangular shape? Or is it the same as like the other?

Matt

They're very similar.

SPEAKER_05

Hard to tell, but yeah, I think that's the one I'm interested in, is triple diamond max.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I want to have a lot of things.

Joe

SNEM says, would the triple diamond be considered the tour head? Yes. Yes.

Matt

Yes. Fade bias. Fade bias head.

Joe

If you're not familiar, like they did when did they start doing the triple diamond? Like actual releases. What was that? Two? Was it AI Smoke or Paradigm?

Dan

The Paradigm had a triple diamond version. Was it Rogue Out before Paradigm?

unknown

Yeah. Yeah.

Joe

Did it rogue LS? The uh the other one, the old green one. They did it rogue out last. Because I had a triple diamond rogue LS.

Matt

Did you?

Joe

So pre pre rogue LS or ST, sorry. Um, Triple Diamond was only available on tour, and then they started making which is smaller profile and paid bias. Yeah, it was Maverick.

Matt

Yeah. Yeah. Maverick, yeah.

Joe

Maverick didn't release Maverick, Triple Diamond to the police.

Matt

No, no, no, no. We're talking about the order.

Joe

Oh, oh, okay.

Matt

Yeah. No, I never saw it. They just had the sub-zero, I think.

SPEAKER_05

Was jailbreak basically what triple diamond is now? Shame and failed.

Matt

Jailbreak?

SPEAKER_05

Or whatever it was called back then.

Who Should Play Which Head

Matt

No, jailbreak was the the bars that they were that helped the spreading of the head. You know?

SPEAKER_05

I'm I'm new to Callaway drivers. I yeah, ask me questions about Tiless. Callaway, no idea. I just know they work now.

Matt

Jailbreak helped keep the crown and the soul from helping. It kept them together, and that energy was put towards the face.

Joe

But then there was speed frame. There was speed frame, right? First. And then was it was just your speed frame first.

SPEAKER_05

Sub-Zero, whatever.

Matt

Then we have uh speed wave was the new one last year in the Fairway Woods, Speed Wave, but now it's Speed Wave.

SPEAKER_03

Speed waves. Speed wave. Great marketing team. Great marketing team there.

SPEAKER_05

We need a new name for it. Let's just call it 2.0.

Matt

2.0. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_05

Stem's throwing it back with the FT5.

Matt

The Razor and the FT5. Yeah. The iMix. Was that the Squarehead? Uh engineers are absolutely amazing for finding out how to do that.

Joe

Yeah, hey, STEM's STEM. So Jeremy was completely titleist all throughout his bag. He went to go get fit by Matt, and he's been hitting it further, straighter, and better since he jumped into a Callaway driver. Now, I'm not saying that it's because of Callaway because I'm not a company man myself, but he went and got fit and he got out of the brand. He's brand agnostic now because he realizes that not everything is gonna just be one way.

SPEAKER_05

I will say I played Paiute yesterday and I took my TSR3 out just to try it out again. It feels like absolute dog shit compared to the Elite. It does not feel good. And I Titleist has always felt slightly dead, but dude, it does not feel good compared to the elite. So I'm excited to try the quantum. Payment field never fails.

Matt

Hey, play that, play that out of that corn all day.

Joe

Yeah, in the 90s though, Top Flight was the top.

Matt

Stem says, I know this is driver talk, but I'm also getting the try-hot thoughts on centershaft. Whatever works for you, do you yeah, do you do you?

Joe

Yeah. Stem's if you haven't listened to the episode with Sam Hahn, uh, you should go listen to that. That was a really in-depth putter conversation. Go listen to the episode with Sam Hahn.

Wedges, Putters, And Price Talk

Matt

The new putters are pretty good. I mean, that that new face is really nice. The new weighting system is really nice. There's gonna be a lot of people that really like that putter design with it being I hate saying zero torque, but just low torque and with with the shaft closer to a center-shafted putter, it's gonna feel a lot more comfortable to a lot of people, uh, but still have that benefit of not having a lot of torque in it for those who who like that.

Joe

Yeah, this is the thing right here. You're loving, you I am loving and in love with my cruiser jailbird. Like if you're in love with your putter, don't switch. Don't switch.

Dan

Stay in love. Don't don't get it, don't get it. Stay in love until you fall out.

Matt

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and the prices of those trihots, whoo! It's everything, everything is insanely priced right now.

Joe

And the and the price of the quantum is gonna be what$650?

Matt

This is$649 for the max. So the max, the max D are$649. And then if it's got the full carbon.

Joe

I'm ready for your trade-ins.

Matt

Six six ninety-nine for the triple diamond, triple diamond max, and max fast. So yeah. They're pricey. But we do have some really good stock shaft options uh that make it a you know a nice purchase. Hell yeah. Definitely looking forward to hitting it. Yeah, I hit the fairway wood. So as you guys know, you've seen me play, I struggle with getting my fairway woods in the air. And when Callaway went to this drop design out of the weight. When they went to this drop design, it removed the weight back here and made this a better ground interaction. I was excited for it. And I I got the five wood in the in the titanium, and I really like it. It's good. Um, but still have issues with getting it up in the air. No issues getting these up in the air. I don't know what the difference is.

Joe

You have definitely struggled with getting those up in the air.

Matt

Oh, it's one of my biggest, it's I hate it. I absolutely hate it. Uh, but no issues getting that up in the air. It is wow. Wow. Mattel we're elite titanium.

Dan

Did you ever change out the back weight?

Matt

Uh the backweight, the front weight, added weight.

Dan

No, I mean, I I I I know it was kind of a dumb question. I'm talking telling, you know, asking the mayor of Tinkertown if he's screwed with weights, but just curious. Oh, yeah.

Matt

I went to a super lightweight, kicky shaft just trying to get it up in the air, but still that's that's why I didn't, that's why I shook that three wood.

Dan

It was so fucking hard to hit. I was like, God, man, even if with even with the I put I think I had like five in the front and like 13 weight in the back, 13 grams in the back, and I still was hitting it way too low.

Matt

I think I have I think I have an eight and an eight in there right now, just to get the swing because I you know play a little bit shorter than standard. But uh when you hit it good, yeah, man. It goes for sure. I could top it guarantee. Oh, you'd be surprised. It's it's pretty damn good. I'm officially team Callaway now. Yes, I love seeing that. Love seeing that.

Joe

Yeah, comedy man converting people tonight.

Matt

Don't switch if you're making putts. Absolutely. That is the biggest thing. If you're making putts, do not switch.

Joe

Yeah.

New Irons And Ease Of Launch

Matt

So if anybody listening has any Callaway questions, don't hesitate. Uh send them, lob them in, uh, and you know, I'll do my best to answer them to my abilities. But I we're gonna be I'll be out for two and a half to three weeks with the fittings. But Julian and Chase and Sidon will be taking all this over all the fittings. We got a bunch going out. Best way, the best way to do it, Callaway does not charge for fittings. Yeah, golf course may charge you to schedule one, but we don't charge for fittings. Go to callaway golf.com, click on the fitting tab, and it'll say fittings in your area. You can type in your zip code and it'll bring up all the fittings on the schedule. All you do is click, reserve your spot, and uh come on out.

Joe

Yeah, they you don't charge for fittings, you don't have to buy anything that's purely educational and to show you because that's how that's how confident Callaway is in their product.

Matt

Yeah, we're not gonna fit it to fit it. Julie and I don't make money doing this except for what Callaway pays us. So you could you could spend 10 grand, you could spend nothing. And I've done that. I've spent the same way. Yeah, then no, I don't think any of us have. So Dan, which one are you which one are you most interested in?

Dan

I like my triple diamond max, but I'm gonna hit them both for sure.

Matt

Yeah, it's it's good. It's really good. The triple diamond is really good. I like the I like the weights because this this uh if you guys remember with Elite.

Joe

How does the support work? How does the USB-C charger work?

Matt

Well, it goes in here and then you just let the firmware update. So after every round, you update and it keeps you know moving the weight based on your performance.

Joe

Yeah, so you download your swing analysis into the driver and it updates.

Matt

Yep. The other the other plug, you just stick it in your ass and and it uploads it. There's a there's a torque wrench right here in the middle.

Joe

But is it the same wrench that we use for everything else?

Chrome Tour Balls And Paint Improvements

Matt

Yeah, same wrench we use for oh man, I should have brought my wrench out here. Damn it, I would have unplugged these because the weights are kind of cool. There are two, it's rubber, it's like a rubber silicone type weight. Uh, and this piece unscrews and it pulls out, and this whole plate that you see that's a different color, that comes off, and then the two weights are in the holes. Damn it, I should go get my wrench. Maybe I'll do that in a minute. And uh then you can take the weight swap the weights and put it back on. So, but the screw stays in it, so you don't have to worry about losing screws, don't have to worry about dropping the weight. I mean, it's pretty trick. It's pretty cool. It's I mean, and there also there also is a weight up front. So if you want to you know put a heavier weight in there to control your spin, it comes with two grand, it's really light.

Joe

Nearest spinning location, 227 miles away off the swing back for living in the sticks, dude. Absolute sticks lives in the kernels, honestly.

Matt

Send Callaway a message saying, I need a remote fitter, please.

Joe

As deep as he is in the middle of nowhere, he's been finding some bangers. And if you guys didn't know, Payment Phil has a whatnot show coming up. Go follow my man. Uh-oh. He's gonna run. He's got a lot of shit to get rid of. So he's been buying everything off you. So no, no, he's been fine. He's gonna be a hidden greens 2.0. No, he's my whatnot uh wife. So we talk all the time. You're the you're the husband in the relationship. Uh absolutely, that's 100%.

Matt

Payment, is that true? Is that true? All right, Jeremy, which one are you in the most interesting?

SPEAKER_03

He's gonna come back and put it.

Matt

Max. Yeah. And Joe, that's the one you're probably gonna try, right?

Joe

Triple Diamond Max, yeah. I mean, well, it's it's one of those things. It's like, yeah, you can like a certain thing, but it's whatever fits you best. But I'm definitely not gonna use any fucking things that I don't like looking down at.

Dan

So you have the diamond right now, right, Joe?

Joe

Well, there you go. Yeah, I have triple diamond, yeah.

unknown

Right.

Joe

AI smoke.

Matt

AI smoke.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Yeah. This I may I may go max D to get rid of that fade I got right now. There's options for everything. So the max. Well, where were you at what's your elite current? It's just the normal elite.

Matt

The standard elite. So the max D does not have the weight ports in the back. It's already set up super draw bias, so there's no really any need to make any adjustments to it. So the they had we had the um the X last year. It just had two spots to change the weighting, and it was you know, super draw bias. So it's they said, you know, we can just make it lighter and not have to worry about that.

Joe

So I think we skipped this one from stems. Uh thoughts on wedges Opus. Is there new wedges coming out this year?

Matt

The SP came out in fall. Yeah. The SP, the spin pocket.

Old Vs New Clubs: What Still Works

Joe

They were the fall, the fall wedges, okay.

Matt

Yep, yep. So that those won't see anything moving.

SPEAKER_05

These were a big improvement for the regular Opus, I think.

Matt

They feel really good. They feel really good, and they look good too. They did a really good job.

Joe

Any other new and exciting things coming from Quantum that you could talk about or no?

Matt

Uh, they have some new hybrids, which the hybrids were really nice. The the biggest change that a lot of people will see and go, what the fuck is this? Is on the uh fair or the hybrids last year, the hossle had the adjustability, and you could do it on the fairy woods also, but the hybrids had to where you can adjust the lie. You can go two flat, two shwo up, two down, you know, and and adjustability on that. They brought that to the fairy woods. So the three and the five will be you can adjust the lie angle, which is, in my opinion, a game changer. You know, if if you're having a problem with the ball going a certain way, you can adjust the lie angle and see if you can get it to come back or not. Um, the seven woods will still be bonded, so nothing there. But the the three and the five.

Joe

Why would they why why would they not? Why would they bond the seven woods?

Matt

I don't know.

Joe

It's not everybody does that though, right?

Matt

Might be a wait, a weight issue.

Joe

Do they not?

Matt

I can't.

Joe

I I've never owned a seven woods. I listen to not seven wounds. Maybe because they're so lofted.

Dan

That doesn't matter so much already, you know, the side spin because they already got too much.

Joe

Yeah, it probably might it might change it too much. I don't know. It might change loft and lie too much. Uh I wonder if they I wonder if the Cobra ones, but they're like 22 point 60,000 combinations. They could probably throw those on those seven wood joints.

Matt

Uh so that uh so that'll be in the hybrids and the three and the five fairway woods. Uh, they do have some new irons, uh, the opus max and the opus max os. Those are those are game improvement, like heavy game improvement irons. They the elite line last year for the players that struggle getting the ball up in the air or just seek a club with massive forgiveness, they're feedback from them found out that they just thought the elite looked too fancy. Uh, and and that was like, I can't play that. It's too too nice of a club looking. So they kind of went backwards a little bit. Yeah, backwards a little bit in the design, in my opinion. It's a it's a shovel, it's a big ass club. But I will say this oh my god, is it easy to hit? I mean, if you're new to the game and you're wanting to get some new irons and you can you can hit the ball, but you just don't hit it well, go try those because my god, they are easy to hit. Scales was we had a golf galaxy clinic uh last week, and Steve Scales, our friend Scales, was and he was hitting the uh the seven iron like 215 yards.

Joe

That dude has so much fucking speed, bro. Like speed, it's insane.

Matt

Insane.

Joe

Nuts. I gotta go back up there. I told him I was like, if you ever see any dope shit up in this use section, you need to call me. And uh I'm gonna have to go see him.

Bags, Accessories, And Wishlists

Matt

So yeah, so that's that's it as president. They got the new balls coming, which uh I brought this uh to everybody to see. Uh Chrome Tour, there's three new versions of the ball, uh, Chrome Tour, Chrome Tour X, and Chrome Soft. They have uh a new mantle, a new material in the mantle that is helping with ball speed, but not reducing the feel of the golf ball. Uh, they have a new uh paint pattern that they're doing too, as far as how they're applying the paint to the ball. It's good. It's good. I was I was really impressed that that the cover is good, it lasted.

Joe

Uh that you're I honestly have never liked Callaway's like painting job on the balls. I it's always fucking screwed with me. I've never liked their painting job, so that's good to hear.

Matt

Yeah. And they, I mean what's blown me away since working for them is finding out how much money and time they have invested into making better stuff. You know, it's it's when you're in that upper echelon of businesses, it's really easy to just mail it in and send stuff out because you know you're gonna get sales. But they uh they are doing a hell of a job trying to innovate. You know, they're coming up with all these different ways that they're doing things that nobody else can do because they're patenting them along the ways. Um, you know, the way that they remove the seam from their golf balls is unlike anything anybody else can do. The data shows that it's I mean, it's impressive what the data shows. So just we you'll see the the new marketing on the golf balls. Let me bring that back up. Oh, add it. I don't want to remove it.

Joe

Speaking of golf balls, I have fucking way too many, and I gotta figure out a way to get rid of all these.

Matt

So you can see here, like they got the triple track on the front. So that is a white ball with triple track. Down here is a yellow ball with triple track. That is a true ball. So what the ball is on the cover of the box is what the ball is. So you don't need to look for corner colors or anything like that. It's what you see on the box on the front is what the ball ball is. So it's it'll be really easy to you know find. Hey, I'm looking for a yellow triple track. Oh, yellow triple track right there. So I thought that was brilliant for them to do that. What do we got going on? Payment says I can hit my 60 that far keys to make the bottom edge of the club face and hit it directly in the middle of the ball.

Joe

Well, I was just commenting against that one, Payment. Because you were with me, right? When we played with uh Andrew.

Matt

Andrew.

Joe

I married and he just he bladed it. It had that had to have gone at least 230 yards. Granted, it was 180 straight into the wall, like just the most speed on a blade I've ever seen. It almost killed me.

Matt

Yeah, he is a beast. He is an absolute, he smashes the shit out of the ball. Doesn't necessarily know where it's going all the time, but man, he has some club head speed. And so if everybody's familiar with what it so that's on the front now, right? So what is that?

Joe

Seven, yeah, seven.

Matt

The short par four next to the range, yeah. Hit our shots, he was 50, 60 yards out, and took his 60 degree wedge and swung it about 115 miles an hour. Joe and I were on the green and it came zooming by us.

Knee Surgery, Golf Plans, And Travel

Joe

Zoomer. Hits the wall.

Matt

Who's this at Chimera?

Joe

Chimera, number seven. Andrew.

Matt

So we're standing up on the green looking down at him, hitting this. He shoots past us, hits the wall behind us, shoots back over towards eight T-Box, buzzes the tower of somebody there, and I think ended up in the neighborhood. Jesus Christ. It was a laser.

Joe

Yeah, that was crazy.

Matt

Well, uh, if you're listening, we just told you all our thoughts on this.

Joe

Anthony, if you didn't know Anthony, are you new here? Anthony, I don't recognize that name. But Matt's a fitter for Callaway. He's had these drivers for two months. He's a big company man. Uh, I maybe he's asking, what about the other? No, you're good, Anthony. We appreciate you being here. But uh Matt fits for Callaway. Uh, we've seen we saw that driver two months ago. Ago. So um, but are you asking about the Callaway driver? No, no, I didn't see it. I heard about it. I didn't I saw I saw a blurbed out.

SPEAKER_01

There we go.

Joe

But that's one that that's actually kind of curious. It w you know what do you think about the other drivers that are coming out? Because it's early, it's early 2026. Haven't hit any of them. Haven't hit any of them. I will say that single one.

Matt

And we're gonna have him on the show hopefully in a couple weeks, if not a month or so. Uh Kenny Ibalo, president of Nevada Golf. Yeah. Local legend, just phenomenal golfer. Plays in all the big events, all across the amateur big event across the country. He's he's gonna be playing a quantum. We got the Taylor maids out of his bag. He was out there Saturday with us, Friday with us at Southern Highlands, and he was smashing it. Smashing it.

Joe

For me personally, I played, I think Taylor Main drivers are great. Um last Taylor Maid driver I played was the Sim2. I just can't look down at the Taylor Maids anymore. And I battle at the top of my bag with drivers fairways like Callaway Tailormade, right? That's what I typically battle with. And it it usually comes down to what which one looks better to me when I'm addressing the ball. So I mean, my I mean, Taylor Maid's been killing it in the in the fairway woods for me. So but Callaway's been killing it the top of the bag than the driver.

Matt

So it's everybody makes amazing stuff. Yeah. I don't think there's anything out there that's utter crap. Just depends on what you like. So it depends on what you like, and you know, if it's doing for you what you want it to do, you know.

Joe

And it all comes down to getting fit for it, you know. Yep. Or you or you buy each one and you try them yourself, and then you know, take your losses, take your hits.

Matt

But Anthony says I play the Taylor made R11s and the R11 Three Wood still and haven't liked anything new since. R11S, is that the white one?

Dan

I think it is the white one. It's the white one with the isn't that one with the little trial thing on the bottom on the sole of it.

Matt

Yeah, like a second hand, basically brand new. That's that's the way to do it right there. Yeah, I mean I can save yourself a hell of a money and still be happy getting around the golf course with your gear.

Dan

Yeah, golf course. Speaking of playing over back tailor mage, did you guys see that um Jason Day is rocking an M6 right now? He's an M6 driver. It's yeah, it's crazy.

Joe

I feel like I've seen a lot of people bringing back the M6 fairways too, or the M5, M6. Yeah, he's in all that.

LIV Money, YouTube, And Tour Rights

Dan

He's an M5 driver, maybe M6. I think it's M5, that's the adjustable one. And then M6 fairway wood, he's in a stealth fairway wood and an arrow burner. He's like rocking all the old animated stuff.

Joe

Oh, I saw that. Well, like, I mean, even for me, like I had the I had the Sim Sim Max 5 wood in my bag forever, and I took it out and I put the M3.

Matt

I recently I just took it out last year with uh when I got that because it's been so good for so long.

Joe

I mean, it's like you find the one that works and then it works.

SPEAKER_05

That M3 you have in your bag is money.

Joe

Yeah, dude, you so good. I'm glad I tried it out before I sold it on whatnot because that's not going anywhere. Yeah, welcome to the game of golf.

Matt

Welcome to the game. Arrowburner 4 hybrid and the M2.

SPEAKER_05

One of the best ones ever, I think.

Joe

Yeah, there's a dude in town who has a M1 driver, uh, tour, I think. And I've been trying to meet up with him because it's I mean the M1, M2, M3, M4 series from Taylor Main.

SPEAKER_05

Legendary. Dude, the M1 Tour is a difficult driver to hit. It's tiny and it's not forgiving, but it is very nice looking.

Matt

Payment and then you get out one for that irons five-through pitching wedge a wedge for Christmas from Girlfriend. Well, that's a oh dude.

SPEAKER_03

Hey, shout out the girly. Shout out the girlfriend. Holy moly. QI10 bag.

Dan

QI10 is a great QI10.

SPEAKER_05

Aren't they coming out with a isn't Calloway coming out with the uh like a luxury bag too?

Matt

Yes. Yes. I haven't I I saw pictures of it, but I haven't gotten any more details on it. But yeah, they're gonna God, what was it called?

SPEAKER_05

Uh I saw a picture someone in golf works forum.

Matt

Quantum when Sidden was doing all the the staffers. I looked at the phone. I looked through the new uh brochure and yeah, it gosh, I can't remember. Quantum leap leather. I wonder if it's on the site. Quantum leap leather, but no, it's it looks really nice. It's it's like the uh what are the titles ones called, Jeremy?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, Link's Legend. Link's legend, yeah.

Joe

The ping one, the Taylor-made one so Nori's saying Callaway partner with Ogio.

Matt

Yeah, Callaway bought Ogio.

Joe

Yeah. And that was what, five, six years ago? Uh yeah, it was a while ago. It was a while ago. Let's see.

SPEAKER_00

Gear, golf bags. And if they've updated yet.

Matt

Exciting when all the new stuff comes.

Joe

There's so much shit coming out. Like even shoes, polo designs.

SPEAKER_05

Scotty Cameron, Santa Fe, too.

Matt

Yeah. Oh, yeah. The OGO Shadow is like the high-end bag right now that they have, but this new line, it's I mean, it's I think it's only gonna be sold to clubs. I don't know if it's gonna be retail. Well, it might be retail. I don't know.

Joe

I really, really, really, really, really need a new bag, and I'm so picky with it. It's like I've been thinking about Ojo's Shadow, and um, I want to see the I want to see him in person and I can't find him, and I want to try the Sunday bag, Ryder Lux, and I can't find him.

Matt

And you know, If you're playing Saturday, I'll bring that white uh the Lux.

Joe

You have the Ryder S class.

Matt

No, no, no, the the not the Sunday bag, the the other one. Starts with an M. Uh God.

Joe

Oh, you're minimal, minimal.

Dan

Minimal.

Joe

Minimal. Minimal.

Dan

We all live in Las Vegas, Anthony.

Joe

Hold on. So Miles, Miles, Miles in the house. Joe, old Tovic, but stop complaining about Star Times for TGL. You have been able to record sports for the last 20 years showing.

SPEAKER_03

We're calling him out on that. Miles for the last 20 years.

Community Q&A And Siena Chat

Joe

I I saw Matt Tradition Golf on Instagram live from the TGL event, and I go check all the stations. Not on.

Matt

He was broadcasting before the show started. He was live. He was live not while it was going on. He was watching him I watched him go live.

SPEAKER_03

It's on two ESPN.

Matt

Yeah, ESPN. Four o'clock. It was on.

Joe

I put it on at five. No.

Dan

Do you have do you have hang on, Joe? Do you have satellite? ESPN? No. Okay. So maybe that's that's probably where four o'clock. I get Eastern feeds with with uh with satellites. So maybe mine was on attack. So maybe if it was maybe at seven o'clock. You should you should check now, see if TGL's on right now, Cox.

Joe

Probably probably. So it's probably uh 7 p.m. start time, and they delayed it to 7 p.m. Yeah, that's the thing. I have no idea. You I can record sports. I don't have a DVR, but what? Sorry, Miles.

Matt

No, you don't have a D VR?

Joe

What am I gonna D VR fucking uh bug shows and uh the gator boys or the outdoor boys on all this fucking people out there?

Dan

That's all Miles' that's all Miles' phone book.

Joe

You use a phone book, Joe? I'm about to send uh Theo to Dan's house and you could take him on a fishing trip.

Dan

I'll take him back. Hey, he's gonna come back. He's gonna be coming back and he's gonna be recording documentaries at your house, bro. Yep.

Matt

Yeah, yeah. Oh, let's see what putters you fellas use. Uh I'm using a good wood blade. Jeremy, what putter are you playing this video?

SPEAKER_05

This week. I'm using a Scotty, an old Scotty new part studio with a CSS insert.

Dan

I'm in a Scotty Phantom 5.2.

Matt

Joe, what Scotty are you using this week?

Joe

Uh I'm currently in the I I played the uh I tried the Callaway, um, which one was it? The two-ball. Couldn't even look at it. I played it for the first two holes, tried it. Couldn't even look at it. Oh, that one that you got? Yep, yeah, tried it.

SPEAKER_03

The two ball. The white hot two ball?

Matt

I forget what you look at a two-ball.

Joe

Yeah, it's a white hot two-ball. I tried it and I was like, can't do it. Yeah.

Matt

Told you that before you even left the house. I know.

Joe

Is it the original one? No, it's the uh I forget which one it is. But I tried it, and then I brought the the Pro Platinum Scotty as a backup. And then I played that the rest of the round.

Matt

It's just Scotty. Google Blue yearly viewing numbers.

SPEAKER_03

I bet, dude.

Matt

Uh yes, Greenley, the Vanquish is working. The PD is working, and it started working, it started working even better when I embraced the fade. Instead of trying to turn that over, I said, the hell with it. I'm just going to aim left side and Matt's DJ mean fall back in. And wow. Amazing. So, yes, I have embraced the fade. Matt Harmon, Matt Johnson.

Joe

Dustin Wangright, Butch Wangright in the house.

Matt

Ah, had a hand-me-down ping answer from years ago. That mid-mallet didn't do any favors this weekend.

Joe

Yeah, I played with Vic, yeah. It was awesome.

Matt

55 billion minutes streamed in 2024.

Garson Giveaway And How To Claim

Joe

For Bluey, yeah. Theo finds these new YouTubers, and I like, I'm like, I'm curious what they make. So I fucking research them and I'm like, damn. It's insane. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's insane.

Joe

It really is.

Matt

So I got uh I got a countdown on my phone. Yeah. It's sad. I got uh yeah, twenty twenty-two days left until I go under the knife. That means I got set twenty-one days.

SPEAKER_03

That's a good one.

Matt

Matt Fimby the Vanguish and didn't miss a fairway Sunday. Aim left, faded all day. Ah dilly dilly. Dilly dilly. Jay needs to join the VGN. He's thinking about it. What's the thing about it?

Joe

Also, guys, we're giving away we're giving something away out of the Garson bag tonight. Guys, all you gotta do is leave a comment and be present at the end of the show when we pull it.

Matt

Yep. If you're not familiar with Garson, Garson Golf, use Daylight, code Daylight15, save yourself some money. Best putter grips on the planet, in our opinion. In our opinion. I think Bernie Garson would agree.

Joe

Yeah. Use, use, use. Use guys.

Matt

W hey, I'm pitching a couple to join the VGN. Do it.

Joe

Let's go, Norway.

Matt

Once once the season starts, I'll be issuing all the referrals for everybody that signed up. So I think we already have I do 25 bucks for anybody that anybody that uh refers somebody that signs up that's a new member. You can't refer somebody from three years ago when they come back. Uh you'll get a$25 credit. Um, I'll either issue you that in a tournament or send it to you via via Zell. But uh those will be going out. We got 80 members right now. I'm pretty happy about that. We're about 25 ahead of where we were last year. And there's 52 people signed up for Rhodes Ranch. I mean, there's only 20 spots left. And uh sadly, I had to take my name off the roster today. Oh, because he's that that hurt. Oh shit. And the next one. First time I have ever been in a Matt's knee like this.

SPEAKER_03

They're using golf club bands. Shout out to Ina Beyer.

Matt

Have you have you? I don't know, you probably haven't, but have you watched a knee surgery video?

Joe

I would never watch that. I would never look for that. Or no.

Matt

Uh, I will be asking for photos again, so I'll see if they'll take pictures. Uh, but Dr. Mike was telling me, he goes, you know, you can ask for your uh your bones. And I'm like, Hell yeah. You should do it and be right up here on the shelf.

SPEAKER_05

Make a ball marker out of your kneecap.

Matt

Exactly. Out of my knee bone.

SPEAKER_05

Grind it down.

Matt

Like, that's a really unique marker. What is it? My knee bone, the top of my tip. From Meniscus Country Club. Oh, hey, you know what? I'd be I'd be happy uh, you know, just being able to run. So yeah, dude, that's uh that's gonna be huge for you.

Dan

You know, because I know I know you've been having some knee issues for a while.

Matt

Dude, it's I'm so sick of being in pain. I'm so sick of being in pain. It's it's it's just terrible. I don't I don't wish this upon anybody because you know it'd be one thing if I could like get comfortable material.

Premium Aftershow, Scheduling, And Wrap

Joe

And and honestly, hey uh Kristen, tailor uh TNT custom made. She'll make you something out of your bone fragments if you need. Yeah, also if you're on whatnot, go follow the inch, an inch off of your femur.

Dan

So are you gonna walk with a limp like permanent little waddle thing?

Matt

No. I asked if they could put I asked if they could put a riser in, and then I'll just get the one and get a riser.

Dan

Like you're walking on the curb with the next step on the street, curb street, curb street. That'd be crazy.

Matt

Oh a kneecap T. I like the ball marker idea though. I think that would be uh be like, what that's a really unique ball marker. What is that? My knee part of my knee. So I asked I asked Mike about it, and I'm like, what do they do with all that stuff? And he says that there's they cut in and they just like fold the whole kneecap sheath over, and that exposes everything. And then they just when they're done, they put it back.

Dan

Hell yeah. Yeah, tell them to tell them to record it, like the whole procedure. Oh, I want to see video. I mean, it's I'll suggest record it if they'll love it. And you add that shit seriously, that should I do not get grossed out from streaming. Oh, me neither.

Joe

I I love that you should ask is like before you go in, be like, hey, can you can you get me out of here with a pimp walk?

Matt

A pimp walk. That's a$5,000 upgrade. Incurrence doesn't cover it.

SPEAKER_05

That's a little bit of an upgrade, but we can do that. We can do longer longer spikes on one shoe.

Matt

Uh so Isaiah, I'm getting a my left knee fully replaced. It's it's the old shit's going away. Cyborg cyborg. Cyborg materials are going in. So Matthew Cyborg and Rice Cyborg rite. Getting that liquid ally metal prepare uh TSA stops wherever you go.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Shoulder lean. I'm like, oh what a bitch. What a ooh.

Matt

So looking looking forward to it, but not looking forward to it. As it's getting closer, I'm starting to get a little bit more nervous about it. Oh, I would for sure. Meniscus surgery last year was you know minor. You know, I was up and moving playing golf really quickly. This one's gonna be a little bit more intense.

Joe

I want to paint, but probably because uh Zuckerberg's listening to what we talk about, and I saw like a video come across my feed, and this girl had like a knee replacement, and she was like somebody showed up at her door like two weeks after knee surgery when she chased them down. So I mean medical advancements and everything.

Dan

So full scroll.

Joe

Dude, it's we got a golf trip coming up, so uh yeah, we're going back to Nebraska.

Matt

So no, I I haven't looked into removing the leg because I kind of want to use my left leg.

Joe

Hey, what a way to come back from knee surgery, though. Going to Landman. Right?

Matt

This is true, right?

Joe

Nebraska.

Matt

It's gonna be good. It's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

Matt

Yeah. So I uh yeah, we'll see. I'm I'm I know the pain I'm gonna go through be worth it to not be in pain, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, only have uh 21 days left to get some moments in before my three months of no golf. Shout out the moments, gotta love those moments.

Joe

So hey, and we're playing Saturday, so yeah, gonna be using this. I'm good, I'm good to go.

Matt

Right on, gonna be using this.

Joe

Awesome.

Matt

Shout out Legacy Golf Club going out.

SPEAKER_05

All four of us will be.

Matt

Yeah, Legacy, yeah. We'll all be rocking tunes.

SPEAKER_05

Shoot a commercial.

Matt

Yeah.

Joe

It's uh it's end of May into early June. It's like what? What are you doing? 26 through 29.

SPEAKER_05

26 through 29.

Joe

Yeah.

Matt

We'll be a lot closer.

Joe

Well, we're not gonna be as close as we were last time, but you'll be we'll be next to the Walmart that's closest to you.

Matt

Meet us at a runza shop. Oh, yeah. I forgot I get to try runza.

Joe

Yeah, there's no runzas. There's no fucking there's no runza. We have to go to the runza in uh in Omaha. Yep.

Matt

Paiute on Friday, Siena on Saturday.

Joe

I haven't been to Siena in a long time. I used to play there all the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Speaking of Siena, I on number one T, you get into the fucking night.

Dan

I wanna we play in a tournament there at the end of uh August or Maybe September of last year. And uh I won a raffle and I won a card membership for 2026 at Siena. Yeah. So I gotta go get that. I gotta go get that activated so we can go play there.

Joe

So you get a free round. I'm not sure what it entails. At either there or Royal. I think you get a free round there or at a Royal. I don't plan on playing a Royal the rest of my life.

Dan

Yeah, me.

Matt

We have a tournament there, so okay.

Dan

Well, at least one more time.

SPEAKER_03

Cross them out.

Matt

I'm I'm so bummed. I I get Paiute back on the schedule, and it's the last tournament I won't be able to make. Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_01

It's like, god damn it.

Matt

Closer than a Callaway figure.

Joe

Closer than a Calais figure.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, I'll pitch you mobile.

Joe

Yeah. If you come show up, yeah. Matt will uh Vegas, just plan a plan a Vegas trip.

Matt

They got any farm conventions coming here soon? Yeah. Could be some. Make a trip to Vegas. Make a trip to Vegas. Alright. Anyone got anything else? We want to wrap this sucker up and we'll get into it.

Dan

Real quick, did you guys hear the rumors about how much Bryson's trying to get for Liv for his next contract for Liv? I didn't hear any of that. No, but$500 million?$500 million. That's what he's looking for. That'll make him like somebody's thousand barrel oil a day. I think that'll give him the second highest contract or something like that, or third highest contract in all of sports. It's fucking nuts. Yeah.

Matt

And and what's crazy about that is he doesn't generate that. Like Messi numbers and Ronaldo numbers.

Joe

Not for live, not for live.

Matt

He doesn't generate that.

Dan

So I mean Isaiah, we'll go. I'll get my I'll get my card and we'll go, Isaiah.

Matt

Never golf at Sienna? What?

Joe

It's a good track, Sims. I like I like Sienna.

Matt

Sienna's fun. I enjoy Sienna.

Joe

I feel like he's probably going to. If I was Bryson, I'd probably just lean into the into the YouTube shit because I he's probably making more money on YouTube than he is on Live. And then just play PGA. I mean, he would he probably go into the negotiations like I'll play when I want to play. Like I'm not playing like you can't hold me to five tournaments, ten tournaments. Yeah. That's what I would say. I mean, like, and he's fine. He's already fine. Who gives a fuck about 500 million for Bryson? You know, he's he's good. He doesn't need that.

Matt

Yeah, I'd like to have that, but how much do you think the Saudis are backing his YouTube adventure, though?

Joe

I don't yeah, I I could see that he used the money to back his YouTube venture. I I mean, I don't know, but surprised if they were at all.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I don't think they are. He's got sponsorships. I mean, he just did that big online, like the gate sports, the gambling, whatever the app is. I can't remember what it's called. Signed with them.

Matt

He's got Holly or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yep, that one. Yeah. But I don't I doubt it.

Matt

But it's it's doing crazy now.

SPEAKER_05

I feel like though he's just been more active and he's had he's involving Brant Horvath and Good Good, and I think he's just I think it's just growing that way. I I would highly I would be surprised if Saudi was backing him. I know they did with Rick Shields.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I mean his now works for them, sort of, but that's the question I have though, is if he were to come back to the tour, how that YouTube thing would work, because they don't they don't want players.

Joe

No, they want to own the players' rights. Yeah. I think that would be the that's gonna be the the blurb in the contract. I own all my shit outside of the PGA tour. Well, that's why Phil left. I mean that's that's why Phil left. That's why Liv was started.

Matt

See Greg Norman's kind of backtracking a little bit now. I'm having charge in a minute. Yeah, just talking about how great the PGA tour is and how he supports it. Like wow.

Joe

No, I I mean to this question right here. Uh, how much longer do you think Liv has in store? I think I think they're dying slowly. It depends on how much the Piff wants to throw into the eternal death that is coming one day.

Matt

I will say we can market January 20th, 2026. I don't see Live Golf after 2027.

Joe

Well, if if if Bryson comes over, it's killed. I guess. If if Bryson comes back if Bryson stays here, I still don't think it goes back. Yeah, I I I know I I feel you there too. But if Bryson comes over, it's definitely killed.

Matt

Oh, it's done. They might sold up this year if he leaves.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. I guess is they're gonna something's gonna happen.

Dan

They'll merge with Asian Tour and it'll just sort of be that it's gonna be the Asian DP Live Tour.

Matt

The Riv Tour. Uh yeah, VJ using exemption is awesome. Yeah, and he made the cut. Yeah, hey, grind it, baby. Hey, there's a reason the lifelong member in one time year. If you're a top 50 moneymaker, go for it. Go for it.

Joe

So yeah.

Matt

All right, let's do the uh let's do the giveaway.

Joe

Uh all right, giveaway, guys. Get your comments.

Matt

23 entries in there.

Joe

I'm in there too. I'm eligible because it's not from Chasing Daylight Podcast.

Matt

You are not eligible for shit.

Dan

He's gonna sell all he's gonna do is sell gritty wins anyway.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh first or what's that?

Joe

Are we doing a grit? Or are we doing something else? We do it too.

SPEAKER_00

You pick it.

SPEAKER_07

I'll pick it. Okay.

Joe

Who's it gonna be? Get your comments in. Give it to him.

SPEAKER_03

Let's see Anthony win the shit.

Joe

Pat Cat. Pat Jason. Pat C. Let's see Anthony win this shit.

SPEAKER_03

I'm kind of feeling an Anthony win right now.

Joe

I come I'm kind of feeling right now. Let's go.

Matt

Are you gonna pull it, Joe, or are we gonna pull the number first? Pull the name first.

Joe

No, just go just pull the name and give him a choice. I mean, I think there's one towel and then the rest are grips. Or we can give somebody the bag. He won last week.

SPEAKER_07

Juju, he won last week, so we'll repeat.

Joe

Good job though, Juju.

Dan

Big winner. Hey, why to be there?

Joe

He won last week and he wasn't even present and he still got it.

Dan

Yeah. Oh, slow rolls. Who's that?

SPEAKER_03

Drew Gainley. Slow roll. Drew Gainley. Drew Gainley, are you here?

Dan

Oh, we we kicked Drew out. We kicked it out.

SPEAKER_07

Drew is going to come town 2.0. Sure was.

Joe

Dude, go live and you get the wackos. Let's go. Hey, earnings. Got pain. He's won one before. Is he here? Got pain. Go. Go. Say it quick. Five, four. Got pain already has grip, so he's gonna get a towel.

Matt

Alright. Three. Got pain.

Joe

Say something.

Matt

Two. Three. Two. I know there's a little delay. God pain doesn't even have to paint.

Joe

Alright. He's got a lot of pain.

Matt

Egong.

Joe

Oh shit. I think how long?

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no, no, no. That's a come on, Anthony. Alright, got pain. Alright.

Joe

We're gonna get Anthony the first time viewer.

SPEAKER_03

Congratulations.

Joe

We're gonna let you pick because you're a first-time viewer. Go back into the archives of the Chasing Daylight podcast. Check out Garson.

Dan

Triple rigged.

Joe

So rigged. Scott Paint hasn't even commented. I know. Okay, you can get a Garson towel. I'm gonna let you just pick. Or you can pick any of these rigged. Either the Longboys. You can do the Longboy Garsons. Two of those. Damn, that's a lot. Unreleased Garson. These were going for a bunch of money on whatnot. The OG.

Matt

Let me let me make my toe big here.

Joe

Yeah, make me big. White. This one's ovalish in shape. You can go with the Tony Finaut Ultimate. This is a fat boy. You can go Garson Max Tour. Trapezoidal shape. Max Tour, the same thing. I think that's it. What do you want? Anthony, what do you want? You want the towel?

Matt

I don't know which one. Or a towel.

Joe

Tau or these? Sell it on the quality of use, not the way. No, absolutely. Dude, guys, if you guys are not familiar, this is the Chasing Daylight podcast. Shout out Garson. Use code Daylight15 and checkout. 50% off. The limited one is really cool. Which one is it?

Dan

The limited one is really cool. That's it. A red, white, and a green, baby.

Joe

All right, we got you. Guys, use code Daylight 15. It's Italian or Mexican. Either way, it's good food.

Dan

Either one.

unknown

Gotcha.

Matt

Watching. Hey, uh, Anthony, are you on Instagram? If you are on Instagram.

Joe

There you go. Yeah. I'm Italian too, bro.

Matt

Uh, if you're on Instagram, please uh go to our Instagram page and follow us and uh send me a message and uh we'll get that out to you.

Joe

Are you on whatnot? Or are you just found us tonight randomly? Uh if you're on whatnot, you can you can follow me on whatnot too.

Matt

Uh any socials, sorry about that. Okay, chasingdaylight at gmail.com. Chasingdaylight at gmail.com and send uh well is is your name your username? Is that your gmail account too? So uh chasingdaylight at gmail.com, send me an email and uh we'll get it out to you. Let us know what you won, and uh we'll get over.

Joe

Yeah, payment failed already on it.

SPEAKER_03

Emails.

Matt

Payment failed already created the Instagram account, the Facebook page, Facebook group.

Joe

Uh email Matt ChasingDaylight at gmail.com chasing daylight podcast.

Matt

I'm sorry. That's why I thought yeah, chasingdaylight podcast at gmail.com at gmail.com.

Joe

Also send any business inquiries there. Yes, liquid death sponsorships, yeah, stuff stuff like that.

Matt

Stuff like that.

Joe

So it's down there for you in the in the chat, Anthony.

Matt

Yeah. Facingdaylight podcast at gmail.com. Send me your email and uh or your address in that and we'll get it going. And uh, you know, juju won this last week.

Joe

Yeah, yep, I saw him drinking out of it.

Matt

Pretty cool.

Joe

Also, guys, there's there's also a uh premium membership where you can listen to the uh episodes after the episode where we talk about just random shit, which we're gonna do after this. Uh it's five bucks a month. Shout out, Jordy. Join in last week. I saw Jordy in the chat. Let's go. That's the homie.

Matt

Yep. And the more that gets built up, we're gonna be able to do better things. You know, we'll be able to do uh, you know, if we we get enough people in there, we'll we'll hold a monthly raffle for the members of the of the the premium.

SPEAKER_03

Um, you know, have too, you never know.

Matt

Some really cool shit that we can give away. So um it's definitely worth it. It may not be worth it right now because we're still building it, but the sooner you get in, you know, uh bring it Saturday with you.

Dan

Oh yeah, I gotta remember that one.

Matt

All right, Joe, wrap it up and uh we'll get the heck you out of here.

Joe

Oh guys, thank you. Oh, yeah, I gotta talk about it.

Matt

Yeah, it'll be out on Thursday with when the podcast goes out. The after show goes out.

Joe

Yeah, so we're trying to figure out a way to get the um subscribers who's this guy into it, but I don't know. Hey, do you're so late, Robbie?

Matt

Wow, Robbie.

Joe

Miss you, man. Yeah, man. Robert, Robbie Chapman in the house.

Dan

Yeah, take care, Anthony. Thanks for stopping.

Joe

Thanks, Anthony. Appreciate you. Um, the after show goes out Thursdays. We're trying to figure out a way to bring the subscribers in live to tune in, proving a little more difficult than it sounds. Uh but you know, uh, we had a test run with some people, and uh it's chaotic. So it was a shit show. It was absolutely it was an absolute shit show.

SPEAKER_01

So we're gonna try and figure out a better way to do it.

Joe

Yeah, I think I maybe we, you know, we can I think subscribers maybe send in their questions or what they want us to talk about, and then we talk about it, and then they get it on Thursdays or something like that. I think that would be a way to do it.

Matt

Or I think there's a way too where I can send the sorry, I think there's a way we can send the link so they could at least watch, you know, and like be in the green room, so to speak, and and watch. So yeah, we'll see. Yeah, if you build it, they will show up late. No, that's just Joe.

Joe

I didn't show up late. That was right. He's talking about Rob.

Matt

Yeah, I know. But you you show up late too.

Joe

Always been on time. He always shows up just on time. Yeah, I'm always there on time, always there on time. Oh guys, thank you so much.

Matt

Tell me why we should start a Discord and I'll ponder it. Because Jordy gotta manage it.

Joe

Yeah, if you want to be illustrator in that, yeah. But Jordy's uh crypto guy, so he probably has a handle on that one. Oh, okay. Jordi, if you want to do that, you can.

Matt

I'll set it up and you can run it, buddy. I yeah, Discord drives me rips and chips and chips in the house.

Joe

Let's go. Rips and chips. We're we're closing out, guys.

Matt

7 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. We went early to get to let those uh those east coasters in a little sooner. Put me put me to work.

SPEAKER_03

You pay for work.

Matt

Uh all right, Joey.

Joe

Thank you guys so much for tuning into this episode's uh Chase and Daylight Podcast episode. Uh, shout out Precision Pro sending us some uh rangefinders, they're gonna be coming on soon. Uh shout out Garson Golf, as always. If you're at the PGA show, make sure you go stop by our uh the people that have shown us love and say, Hey, I heard about you from Chase and Daylight Podcast. Um, listen into past episodes and uh go deep into the dark archive and uh go listen to everything uh that happened pre-this show. And uh a lot of information out there. Make sure you guys go get out there and hit some greens. Um and yeah, as always, make sure you get out there and chase some daylight until next week, 7 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, next Tuesday. We'll see you then. Until then, later on, we've got to be a little bit more.

Podcasts we love

Check out these other fine podcasts recommended by us, not an algorithm.

The Sweet Spot - Golf Podcast Artwork

The Sweet Spot - Golf Podcast

Adam Young/Jon Sherman
All Fore One Golfcast Artwork

All Fore One Golfcast

Shaun Painter AFO
Please Let Us Golf Artwork

Please Let Us Golf

Please Let Us Golf