Chasing Darkness: Episode 366 Aftershow

A knee on the mend, a Vegas field sold out, and a fitting bay full of lessons you can take to your next tee shot—this one moves. We start with the grind of recovery and the slow bend of a CPM machine, then jump into the reality of hosting a community-fueled tournament: corkage fees, free-drink calculus, out-of-towners chasing tee times, and the hard truth about pace of play when the back-nine cocktails hit. It’s Vegas in peak season, but the network makes it feel like your local muni.

From there, we pull the hype back to earth. LIV Adelaide as a “fifth major” gets a reality check, and we tip our hats to true comebacks—Ben Hogan’s resurgence and Babe Didrikson’s win under impossible odds. The gear talk runs hot: Mennoo’s turtle putter look, driver head choices between triple diamond and max, fade bias vs forgiveness, and why some pros drift back to what simply feels right. If you’re weighing Callaway options, titleist contenders, or just want straighter tee balls, you’ll find practical guidance here.

The core takeaway lands in the fitting story: watch the hands, respect the transition, and pick a shaft that times with your move. A “light, senior-flex” solution turns a chronic right miss into center-face strikes, proving again that numbers beat ego. We talk seven woods for height and control, mishit ball speed that stays up, and how to test across profiles to find the one that protects your bad swings. Around it all, the community shows up: Whatnot friends meeting IRL, local course intel, budget hotel strategies, and a tongue-in-cheek plan to marshal a round in a black cowboy hat.

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Transcript

Pain Meds And Knee Rehab Machine

Matt 0:13

Yeah, so the the the drugs have been weird. Drugs have been weird. I I do I've always been a pill fan of taking drugs. Uh back in the day we used to take lore tabs like crazy. Oh god. Yeah, I used to eat those.

Dan 0:37

I used to get broker all the time. We used to get uh to get like a chip pie. We used to go to um Walgreens and get Coracid and HBP. It's like cold medicine for high blood pressure people. Pop like 10 of those. 10, 12 of those, and just be fucking lit.

Matt 1:00

Zoom in. Zoom in. Yeah.

Dan 1:04

Yeah, that shit used to fuck us up.

Matt 1:07

So I I'm I'm pretty content. Like right now, I it does not bother me at all. I feel good.

Dan 1:14

That's good.

Matt 1:15

The pain meds have kicked in and it's nice. I gotta go. We get done here. I gotta go sit on that machine for an hour.

Dan 1:23

Really?

Matt 1:24

I I can fall asleep while I'm on it. That's it's because it's slow.

Dan 1:29

It just it goes it just bends your knee for you.

Matt 1:34

Yeah, it's uh it's slow, bends it for you.

Dan 1:38

Um can you like can you like preset what angle you want to take it to?

Old Party Stories And Rap Nostalgia

Matt 1:44

Yeah, I have to so right now it's at 80, and then tomorrow I'll bump it up to 86. Okay, and uh then what's tomorrow? Wednesday and Thursday it'll be 92 and then 98. Yeah. So but it's it's it's so because I I said to the the PT and my I go, I go, why can't I lift my leg? You know, what what's what's going on? And she said, your your muscles are like so tight and so contracted that they they they're they're freaking out, they're just freaking out, and they've gotta just you gotta chill and you just gotta keep them moving. And so that's what happens is people don't, they just stay stationary and those muscles never loosen up. They just you know stay that way.

Dan 2:36

So yeah. Did you get some new hit and greens hat or is that an old one?

Joe 2:42

It's an old one. I'm working on here, I'll show you this.

Matt 2:48

You giving anything away for what? The tournament no, no.

Joe 2:57

No, I think it's all let me show you.

Matt 2:59

Yeah, I tag Gronk in that uh yeah, they got a good following. Yeah, they do. And I was like, oh shit, I'm not following them. Fuck. So I followed him.

Joe 3:09

Oh Dan, Dan will get this one.

Dan 3:12

Oh yeah.

Matt 3:13

I know what that is.

Dan 3:14

Yeah, it's Ice Cube.

Matt 3:16

Ice Cube. Damn, Joe.

Joe 3:23

Not me. No, I was it, I was at least like eating kids' meals. Uh I knew what a frosty was. I at least knew what a frosty was.

Matt 3:37

Um my favorite lines of his is uh with no Vaseline, just imagine a little bit of gasoline.

Joe 3:46

Yeah, classic, classic, classic dishes.

Matt 3:49

I love that old rap stuff. I used I had you would not believe how many rap CDs I used to have. I had, you know, those towers that you'd have that hold like 150 CD. I had four of those of nothing but rap CDs. Um yeah, I uh like two shorts back in the day. Um Paris. Uh I mean there was so many, like I just I loved those type of linguistical rappers that you know told a story that you know, not this shit that's out now that I don't know what the fuck that shit is.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Chinese that's Chinese. That's Chinese. Oh, hi, hi Quinn. Hi, little Katie. Hi, little Katie.

Joe 4:36

Hi, hi, she loves makeup. Like, she's like makeup, I need makeup.

Matt 4:50

Need makeup? Oh man, you're in trouble.

Joe 4:54

Yeah, I knew that when she came out. She's gonna be slashing tires in high school for sure. Just like mom.

SPEAKER_05 5:03

Just like mom.

Matt 5:08

Oh that's too funny.

Joe 5:10

Yeah, she goes on uh two in two days.

Matt 5:14

Did they just sell all these this tournament out to whatnot people?

Joe 5:19

Or is it so, yeah?

Matt 5:21

Yeah, that's crazy.

Joe 5:22

Unless you had the unless you had the link. I mean, you had to have the link. So that's why I was wondering if they had a social media profile for the tournament, or no, a lot of these what a lot of the whatnot guys don't have a social media presence. So, like Grunk Grunk Dolpher, I mean they have a good following, but they started their brand.

Matt 5:46

Um the first time we saw them was at uh uh what's that course we played in Bakersfield or San Bernardino Dan where I had the two Eagles? Oh Quarry the quarry, yeah.

Whatnot Golf Tournament Sells Out

Joe 5:58

Yeah, so they're playing in in California, and what happened to Bubba called me uh from Birdie Gang or ADM Birdie Juice, whatever you want to call it. Um, last month he called me, he's like, dude, Revere, like they're they're asking for because their whole thing is like drinking, right? Kind of so um in California you can bring whatever you want, and the course will like take a percentage or like charge you a Corkage fee or whatever. But so Revere is they're getting 500 drinks, and Revere is asking for 500 drinks that they bring that they can sell later. So it's like if you need 500 drinks, we need 500 drinks because you're taking away from our bar our revenue. So uh Heron was here earlier dropping off all that stuff, and he's like, We gotta go to Costco and buy a bunch of drinks, and then we gotta give half of that to Revere. Which it's understandable, it's Vegas. I mean, it's totally different, like but they just and he was telling me that whoever was the sales guy was like you know, he told them this, and then it took months, or I don't know the whole story, but it's different, you know. But Grunk Grunk Dolphur does a bunch of tournaments in California, and and they're knowledgeable in doing this, but hey, shout out that they sold it out in Vegas.

Matt 7:29

That's amazing.

Joe 7:30

I mean, that's it's not easy to do forty five, 145, I think, 144, whatever that number is.

Matt 7:35

I mean, you throw the free drink thing out there, people like I'm gonna spend out on alcohol anyway, so yeah, yeah, but it's still 200 bucks.

Joe 7:43

I mean, yeah, I mean, and then the VIP spot is 250, I think, which I didn't sign us up for the VIP one, but but I mean, think about it if you're buying a round for everybody out on the course, you know, and and people are getting mixed drinks.

Matt 7:57

I mean, it's gonna be 60, 70, 80 bucks.

Joe 8:01

So and there's also like a free drink on every other hole, and then there's hole sponsors, so I don't know. I'd be curious to like see the um inner workings of how they put it together, you know what I mean? Can't go get a big one to it.

Matt 8:17

It's not easy.

Joe 8:20

And most of these people are from out of town, yeah.

Matt 8:23

That's another crazy thing.

Joe 8:25

Yeah, I mean, there's people flying in from Ohio, from you know Minnesota, Idaho.

Matt 8:32

I'm stunned they actually just got a spot to play because I mean, February, end of February is like prime time for people to come into Vegas with March Madness coming soon, the Super Bowl just ended, you know, NASCAR's coming soon.

Joe 8:50

It's okay, Quinn. Um, yeah, I mean, not easy. Okay, it's empty, then we'll fill it up. No need, no reason to cry.

Matt 9:01

So many reasons to cry.

Joe 9:03

It is empty. Okay, I know it's not full right away. Wait a second. Don't touch, Gwyn. No, don't touch here.

Matt 9:15

Yeah, there's I mean, I'm sure they're probably gonna do A and B groups, but there's no way you're playing eight balls. That's that would never happen. Yeah, is it Lexington or Concord? Or you got both courses? I don't know. Actually, I don't know.

Joe 9:27

I know they're playing uh national on Saturday, they're gonna play national on Saturday. So um I've heard National's. I don't know. I would assume it's Lexington. I think it's like National's in really bad shape. Scary isn't it really? Yeah, it's whatever.

Dan 9:41

It's so they've lost the greens contour.

Joe 9:46

So somebody on whatnot asked me that the other day, and they said they heard uh national is in great shape and or bad shape. And I was like, when I talked to Bubba like a month and a half ago, I was like, that's when like after we played for something, it's been good for so long. So I'm probably gonna look like an asshole. Um so yeah, sucks.

Matt 10:12

Yeah, Rhodes is in fantastic shape. People have been texting me that been playing, they're like, dude, it's so good. Boyd said it was in fantastic shape. So that'll be nice. It should be a good time. Should be a good time. Yeah, I'll I'll I'll have Jeremy come grab me. We'll go down there and and uh come find you guys.

Joe 10:36

Yeah, I mean tradition's coming, off tour trucks coming, take five is trying to come. So I mean it's the gathering of the juggalos, if you will.

Matt 10:46

Yeah, in our backyard.

Dan 10:48

It's always nice.

Joe 10:49

Yeah, yeah.

Dan 10:50

Matt hit me up looking for recommendations on places to eat and shit. I think he's gonna try to make reservations or some shit somewhere. Him and uh he's staying at uh resorts world. Yeah, okay.

Joe 11:02

Give me a second to fancy boy.

Matt 11:05

Yeah, well, I think if you can talk should have worked a deal with Joe and got people rooms at uh Green Valley Ranch.

Joe 11:14

I told everybody. I'm I told everybody I was like, if you're coming, let me know. I can I'll help you. But yeah, no, a bunch of guys are staying at Aria. I know. Um be staying in there. A lot of them are staying at the uh remember that murder that happened next to South Point, like a couple a few four three, four years ago. That Hilton Grand Vacation place. Yeah, there a lot of them are staying there, like Levi is staying there, Cujo, Citrus, like a lot of those guys are staying there.

Dan 11:48

It's cheaper. Somebody told me you can get you can you can get a room there for 100 bucks.

Vegas Logistics, Courses, And Conditions

Matt 11:52

Yeah, yeah, it's like a it's like a nice property, too. You get a free dinner if you check out their uh uh yeah, their show proposal.

Joe 12:01

But Canadian Club Flipper called me and he was like, he was like, uh, what do you recommend? I was like, Well, somebody got murdered there a couple years ago, and he's like, Oh, okay. Well, people get murdered everywhere here. I know, I know, and that's what I was telling him. Yeah, he's like, It's my first time to Vegas, so I want to do something, you know. I want to like do it.

Dan 12:17

So did you hear about somebody got shot at the Rio last Sunday?

Matt 12:22

Yeah, no, it was uh uh it was a mom she killed her daughter, yeah. Yeah, she killed her own fucking daughter. Some more's gonna come out about that. Crazy, bro. What about the freaking the the transgender guy dude in Rhode Island at the hockey game? Yeah, I heard that killed some killed some people at the hockey game. Yeah, family members, yeah. Just crazy, bro. So it's because Erica's really following that story. Um, it's they were here for a dance competition from I think from Utah or Utah, yeah. Utah, yeah.

Joe 12:56

Why drive all the way here to killer, you know?

Matt 13:00

Why, you know, but so apparently there's some family disputes going on, and like there's a custody battle thing going on, and and like I could see the dad going, you take her to the competition, she doesn't win, you better not come back. Some scary, yeah. I mean, wild.

Dan 13:22

I know it's it's nuts, bro. Wild stuff, and then all the shit coming out with the Epstein stuff. It's like fuck a fucking world full of sicklos and wackos and fucking shit.

Matt 13:33

Bobby Chapman just joined the Chasing Daylight Premium. Let's go. Right on. Sell it.

Dan 13:46

Thank you.

Matt 13:48

Boom.

Dan 13:48

All right, Captain. Did you hear about did you hear the live guys talking about how live Adelaide should be considered the fifth major?

Joe 13:57

What I'll leave, I'll see you guys later. I'm leaving.

Matt 14:00

Yeah, yeah. Goodbye. Uh what? No way they didn't.

Dan 14:04

Yeah, uh on air. It was Faraday and whoever the fuck he talks with. They talked about they talked about the the strength of the field and all the stuff, the venue that it should be it shit should be considered the fifth, the fifth, a fifth major. I was like, it's not even on a PGA tour. I'm gonna be a fifth major if not even on PGA.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

It's not even a major on the live tour.

Matt 14:26

I know it's not. I'm telling you, if you watch Thursday and Friday, there's nobody at that fucking golf course. I was like, I thought this was like their big big winner.

Dan 14:37

Let me see if I can find it real quick here. When I heard that shit, I was like, you guys really said that on air.

Matt 14:43

Dude, they were saying some nonsensical stuff, and it just doesn't make any sense. I I mean, I get you're trying to hype up, you know, you're trying to hype up the league and and you gotta do what you gotta do, but I mean, how disrespectful to Ben Hogan to say that this is the greatest comeback in the history of golf. I mean, one of you know one of the the the names on the Mount Rushmore of golf, uh you're saying no, I'm sorry, right and not only did he just come back and win that US Open, I think he won like five of the next like eight, finish out of the top ten in the in like the next five majors, yeah.

Dan 15:27

It like he went off.

Matt 15:28

Did you hear about what Babe Diedriksen did? She was coming back after colon cancer and won by six strokes with a colostomy bag.

Dan 15:39

Yeah, that's that's crazy.

Joe 15:41

That's nuts, right?

Matt 15:44

That's a comeback.

Joe 15:45

Some babe. What a babe.

Matt 15:51

Crazy stuff.

Dan 15:52

That's who they named that course after in uh at uh the course I grew up on Institute's babe in the Ike. Yeah, the babe course is named after her, and the Ike is named after Dwight Eisenhower.

Matt 16:02

Awesome.

Dan 16:04

Let me see here if I can find that. Let's hear this could be it here.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

Well, all anyone in the world of golf is talking about at the moment is when Live Golf Adelaide will be confirmed as the fifth major champion.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Oh that's a good deal.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

We have gone from 54 to 57 players. I mean, a gargantuan leap from 54 to 57 players.

Dan 16:35

Well, you know, yeah, I don't know if it is or not, but that has to be AI.

Matt 16:40

Even if it's not that dumbass to say a gargantuan leap from 54 to 57.

Dan 16:46

That's I think it said 157, but they just said 57 on the audio because it said 157 on the screen. But I don't know, man.

Matt 16:56

Hey, what did you what did you think of Menwoo's new turtle putter?

Dan 17:00

Yeah, I've seen that with the two lines on top. Yeah. Um I personally don't like it. I think it's a little too, yeah, that that aiming thing's a little much for me. It's a little good. I can see how some people would, you know, it's very spider.

Matt 17:16

It's very spidery.

Dan 17:20

Uh I am currently driverless right now. I oh, I told you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um so we can get uh because UNLV is is oh, bring that stuff you got too tomorrow. I will I will. Umlv is with Callaway, um, the golf teams. Oh, are they so I believe so, yeah. They're not with ping or anything like that anymore. Well, I think maybe they're with titleist.

Matt 17:47

Maybe they are, but the every UNLV kid that comes by has a titles driver. But anyway, maybe they are.

Safety News, Wild Headlines, And Reactions

Dan 17:53

Maybe they are. But uh at the um College of Hospitality, they have a simulator in the golf PGM program that runs through that school. We can order Callaway through them. Oh, nice. So maybe it's not necessarily the golf team. Um, but I just found out that I can pick up a new quantum for like a little over$400 with the discount. VIP. Well, it was like uh oh, just a little over 400. That's nuts. Yeah. So like three guys, three guys in the maintenance crew have already ordered them and got them. So there you go. So I think I'm gonna probably order, I'll probably get one in the next day or two. Order it.

Matt 18:35

Stevie Jackson just picked his up.

Dan 18:37

Uh I just don't know if I want the triple diamond max or if I should actually go and like hit the max and then hit the other triple diamond.

Matt 18:48

Well, I mean, what do you you like playing the fade, right?

Dan 18:52

Or do you like playing it over? No, I like playing. I'd rather hit a straight ball to a fade.

Matt 18:57

Yeah, then I I I mean the max is gonna straighten it out. Um, where the triple diamond, it's I mean, it's that's the fade head. That's fade bias. It's what it's designed to do is hit fades.

Dan 19:09

Just a regular triple diamond?

Matt 19:10

Yeah, the triple diamond, yeah. You don't the max is just a a little bit more forgiving, and it's not as fade biased. But I would I I would love to see you hit the regular quantum max.

Dan 19:25

Yeah, that's what I'm that's rather. I I'm totally fine with that because I had Jeremy was rushing that thing. I know, I know he was, and I hit I had an elite max that was my friend's driver. Um, I I had a 10 and a half uh regular elite max head, and I didn't I don't think I missed a fairway that by yeah, and well, wasn't that didn't Kyle start playing the max?

Matt 19:51

Yeah, Kyle's Kyle's in the uh like I know yeah, Kyle is Kyle's playing the max, right?

Dan 19:58

Yes, he was in the anti smoke max. Uh I just found out Mike went back to Taylor Maid. Oh yeah, he went back to Taylor Maid. He said he wasn't super super happy with the Callaway gear, and he started hitting the Taylor maids again, and he just said it felt better to him.

Matt 20:16

Gotta play what best for you.

Joe 20:18

I mean, I haven't hit I haven't hit the 4D yet, but it looks cheap to me.

Dan 20:26

I don't think there's anything new, new technology with their stuff. They just put new paint jobs on it, and that's did you see that that video of Rory?

Joe 20:34

Uh I saw something today. They're like, what's your favorite club you've ever had? M2. He's like, and he's like, I wish I could. I look at it in my garage. I wish I could pull it out, but it's probably illegal at this point.

Matt 20:47

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:48

Yep.

Matt 20:50

That was a hot driver, man.

Joe 20:55

Dude, do it for the company, bro.

Matt 20:59

Do it for the company. Also, I mean, Scotty's playing the QI 10, he's not playing the new one. Yeah. But it's so funny. You see, you see him because I was watching because they did. I I couldn't tell, you know, I was trying, I couldn't tell, couldn't tell. And then they show his caddy uh taking the quantum head cover and put it on, and he turned it. And I'm like, fuck, it's a fucking paradigm. God damn it.

Dan 21:20

Yeah, man. Uh goddamn. What degrees, Matt, do they make the triple diamond head in?

Matt 21:27

Uh eight, nine, ten and a half. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 21:33

Yeah.

LIV Adelaide Hype And Golf History Pushback

Matt 21:34

I mean, I it I think if you want to play the fade, I I would start with the triple diamond and then see what it does. Um, I mean, it's it's a little it's a smaller head, too. So if you like a smaller profile head, but it's 10cc. It's hard for me. Like Julian looks at it and goes, God, that's huge. Um, compared to the other one. I I personally don't see you know, I try to look at them, and yeah, I mean, if you look, you can. You can see the difference, but just casually looking at them, it's it's hard for me to go, oh, that is 10cc smaller. I like that.

Dan 22:08

You know, do they make the max in a nine?

Matt 22:11

Yeah. Yeah. Uh nine, ten and a half.

Dan 22:15

Well, maybe when I go over to the college of hospitality, I'll I'll hit them all and whichever one I feel like hits the best and gives me the best trash and numbers because they they got all the stuff in the in the studio there too.

Matt 22:25

Yeah.

Dan 22:25

I'll just do a quick little session over there and then just order the head.

Matt 22:29

We can go up to Dragon Ridge whenever you want, too. And everything's up there. We can do a whole thing there too.

Dan 22:36

You actually work out a Dragon Ridge? Yeah, yeah.

Joe 22:39

When the knee when the knee's better.

Matt 22:41

There's a fitting studio up there. And okay.

Joe 22:44

If yeah, seriously, Peter or L M's video.

Matt 22:47

Yeah, that's where that was at.

Dan 22:49

I thought that was at Rio Seiko.

Matt 22:51

No, that was a Dragon Ridge. Oh no, okay. Yeah, no, we can that's I mean, like a Tuesday or Wednesday when there's nothing else scheduled. Yeah, totally go up there and do that. All right, that's easy to do. And they and we got everything, everything there. I'll just hold off on that.

Joe 23:06

Again, is there a limit on how many you can purchase?

Dan 23:10

Me? What or um I don't I don't I haven't been told that okay.

Joe 23:17

I do want one, but I don't want to spend 700 bucks.

Dan 23:20

Yeah, do you want the triple diamond head though, like yours?

Joe 23:25

I mean, if we can find a day where we go hit it. I think I I can't remember when we played Legacy. You only hit the triple diamond.

Dan 23:36

Yeah, you have the triple diamond head. You didn't hit the max though.

Matt 23:40

I should probably have because I have the max in my head for the first nine, and then I put the the quantum.

Joe 23:46

Yeah, I should probably get a max.

Dan 23:47

But Joe you but you put a fade though too, though, don't you Joe?

Joe 23:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Dan 23:52

Oh, do you want to straighten your ball flight out or do you want to continue the fade?

Joe 23:57

As long as I know what's happening, it doesn't matter.

Matt 23:59

That's the main thing. Like the the last three rounds that I played where I accepted the fade. It was Yeah.

Joe 24:07

I mean, that's the thing I always I aim right first couple holes because I don't warm up because I know I my body I throw my hands, and then after like hole three or four, then I just play left and then cut it in. So but no, I want one. I do want one, but it's way too expensive. That's crazy how expensive how expensive it is.

Dan 24:34

Yeah, I I wouldn't see why I couldn't order more than one.

Matt 24:37

Yeah, I know I can I can get I only get one driver, so I'm gonna wait to see if if Sidon helps me out with that or not, and then so I'll have one, and then I think I get three fairway woods, which I want two. I'm gonna get two for sure. I'm definitely gonna get the new seven wood and I'm gonna get the new five wood. Sell my titanium.

Joe 25:01

I I don't see liking the tailor made because it just looks cheap to me. I mean, it looks like glued together to me, like it just looks cheap personally, but yeah, I I I have not hit it yet.

Matt 25:15

So I don't I don't even know what it's like.

Joe 25:17

I haven't either.

Matt 25:19

I didn't like the elite, so but I think you'll like about the quantum more is is one that seven.

Joe 25:28

I did it, I played it, yeah.

Matt 25:29

I like the quantum, yeah. I like the quantum. That the miss hits, the ball speed stays up on the miss hits, which is what they were aiming for, and that's what we're seeing.

Joe 25:37

So yeah, no, I really I really like the quantum. I had such you guys tried to fit me in one, I was like, nope, nope.

Putters, Drivers, And Callaway Options

Matt 25:46

Uh I had such a cool fitting moment uh at where we had Sienna, and uh I was working with this guy, and he just no matter what I was doing, he just couldn't stop hitting the ball to the right, you know. And so I tried this, I tried this, I tried this, and uh I said, you know what? Let's I said I'm gonna do something just radical. So I'm gonna I go, I'm gonna go the complete opposite spectrum of what you do. And uh what Julian is helping me understand is is what people do with the handle, you know, is really important. You know, if if you if you yank that handle, the shaft is gonna do different things. If you you're smooth, the shaft's gonna do different things. This guy had a super smooth transition and just kept on hitting it right. I said, so I said I said, I'm gonna build this, I'm gonna put it in your hands. He's like, What'd you do? I said, No, just just hit it. And he was uh, I don't know, he was probably late 40s, early 50s. Um, didn't have crazy fast swing speed. P DM, PDM coming, PDM, crowd dad moment, and uh so I I put him in a like senior flex light uh shaft in a in a five wood, right? And he just started piping it dead center, dead center. He's like like four and roll. He's like, What did you do? I said, Hang on a second. I said, I want to see you.

Joe 27:11

I took away your ego.

Matt 27:12

Yeah, I want to put you in the seven wood now, and so same thing, same thing. I said, Okay, now we're gonna try this in the driver, and just was piping them down the middle. He goes, What did you do? I said, I said, that is a very light senior flex shaft. And he's like, I'm a senior flex guy now. And I'm like, I said, it doesn't matter what it says on it, it matters what it does, you know. And I was like, I can just see Greenley, you know, in the corner going green. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter what it says. I said, you know, you your hands do something different than what traditional people do. It's not bad, you make great contact. I said, but you're not getting the shaft to do what those shafts were designed to do. This light, whippy shaft kicks at the end for you and it times it perfectly for you. Bought a driver, three wood, five wood, seven wood. He was he was so happy. Yeah, so I told Julian, I said, Yeah, little proud proud fitter moment. I said, I'm learning, I'm learning.

Joe 28:10

PFM, bro. PFM, pure fucking magic, pure fucking magic, uh, pure fitter moment, proud fitter moment. Yeah, yeah. But that's it's all ego.

Matt 28:24

I mean, you know, it wasn't I don't know. He wasn't, I don't think he was more ego-driven. I think he was just frustrated that he wasn't hitting it straight, and and I was struggling fitting him, you know. I was like, there's gotta be something that and then so I just I stood back for a minute and watched his hands. I'm like, oh, he's got really slow, smooth hands. He needs that, he needs that extra whip on that shaft. Yeah, and uh yeah, so it's it's fun when you find that puzzle, you know, and put that puzzle together. And it's what we we tell people all the time, you know, we sell smiles, that's what we do. We don't we don't get paid commission, we get paid in smiles, and you smiling in the hair guy, big company, man. He's getting it, we sell smiles, yeah.

Joe 29:12

He's we sell smiles around here. I wish Eli Eli stock didn't take it away from me because I held on to that for a long time.

Matt 29:24

Yeah, speaking of Eli stock, say it was when the Topgolf sold, Callaway sold it. You know, everybody was talking about how oh they lost it, dumbest move, biggest waste of money, blah blah blah. Sliden was saying, you know, uh Topgolf was still making money, they're still a profitable company, you know. Uh, even though Callaway bought them, and you know, then they're selling them now for basically what they bought them for, uh, they still have ownership in the company, and they were still profitable. So it's not like they lost money, you know. This it's a publicly said it's a publicly traded company, and when you're publicly traded, your shareholders want action, you know. And if it's a privately owned company, you can do shit. But you know, they want to see numbers going up every single year and profits going up every single year, and when that doesn't happen, you know, gut it. But yeah, it's it's not like they weren't making a killing every year, still.

Joe 30:21

Actually, I didn't I sold my E Ely Eli stock to go to Bandon for the first time, I think. Really? Yeah, I think that's I think that's what I sold to go when we went. I think I did. They're still publicly publicly traded, right?

SPEAKER_03 30:42

Yep, yeah, publicly traded.

Joe 30:43

Okay, so I I definitely sold it then to go to Bandon. So um good sacrifice.

Matt 30:51

So you don't need to know what course you're starting at, you don't know what hole you're starting at, huh?

Joe 30:55

Nope. Wow.

Matt 30:59

Starting to do that.

Joe 31:00

I'm just excited to see everyone, man. I'm excited. I mean, I I'm playing golf tomorrow, which is gonna be cool. I haven't been to Angel Park in a long time. I texted Darden a little bit ago, and uh he's like, What's the name under? So maybe it's gonna be free. I don't know. Shout out Darden always, but um I'm just excited to like see everyone because we spent so much time on this fucking app.

Matt 31:26

Yeah, it's nice to be able to put faces to names and and real personalities to people, yeah.

Fitting Philosophy: Shafts, Tempo, And Results

Joe 31:34

Yeah, like Heron. I was I I picked up the kids, I told Haron 5 30, like pull up to the house, and I'm pulling up to the house after picking up Quinn from daycare, and there's a car in my driveway, and I'm like, who the fuck is in my driveway? And there's Heron like there with the fucking like unloading shit. I'm like, what's going on? And it's fucking Heron, you know, and it's just I mean, it's cool, man. It's it's cool. I'm like, yeah, he's like, you know, good to meet you, man.

Dan 32:02

Like I've spent his was he in that white Durango, whatever the hell he's was driving.

Joe 32:08

And uh his wife was with him, Jamie. Shout out Jamie. But it was just you know, it's just it's just it's it's kind of a weird dynamic, you know. It's it's one of those things where it's when we went to go, like, you know, never met uh Joel, fucking golf homie, ever before, and we see him in person at Bandit, and it's just like we have a connection, and it's it's cool, man. It's fucking cool, and you know, it's like we know each other, but we don't never seen each other in our entire life. But we do this thing and we're connected somehow, and it's just like golf brings people together and like formal, it's like you know that motherfucker's been at Bannon like every other week, it seems. Yeah, he's he and he's uh he's he's trying to build like a short course in his backyard or something.

Dan 32:58

So yeah, the stunts, yeah, yeah, saw that. Yeah, he posted a video today. He's out on a sheep's ranch. I was like, Jesus, bro, that's like the that's like the third time I've seen you at Bannon in the last like two months.

Joe 33:12

I mean, but he's five hours away. I know that's so dope. Yeah, I mean, if you're five, if you were five hours away and you're Oregon resident, yeah, right.

Dan 33:23

Probably every other weekend I'd be down there. Right. I don't know if I could do that every week because that drive would be like, fuck, I gotta do it again. Yeah, but every two weeks I'd probably be like, Yeah, let's go.

Matt 33:42

Oh man, that's hilarious.

Joe 33:45

No, but it's cool. I'm very, I'm very excited. I'm stoked. I can't wait.

Dan 33:50

I don't know. Matt was coming, so that was I found out today, so yeah, that's kind of cool.

Matt 33:57

Yeah, I mean it's gotten pretty big, so might have to put on my tradition hat tomorrow.

Joe 34:07

Well, so there was a show, tradition had a show a couple weeks ago where like Surfshack, who I'm playing with in the morning, was like, you're coming, you need to come. So I think I think Matt's playing in Surfshack show, but I'm just excited. I'm just you know it's gonna be fun. It should be.

Matt 34:28

It'd be silly if you weren't.

Joe 34:30

Yeah, it'll be fun. The only thing is, is Katie is in Key West, she leaves the Key West Thursday morning. I gotta figure out a way to juggle, you know.

Matt 34:43

Trials and tribulations.

Joe 34:47

Yeah, I told a bunch of people like, hey, my house is right by where you're staying, so kegger.

Dan 34:54

Yeah, kegger at Joe's, yeah. Don't tell uh don't tell her and uh and uh birdie uh god, what's his name? Zach?

Joe 35:06

Uh Bertie Bubba for the wind.

Dan 35:09

Bubba, yeah. Remember those video they posted where they had their shirts off, they're just smashing that off. Yeah, that was a lot of man meat in that room.

Joe 35:18

That's what I'm worried about.

SPEAKER_05 35:19

Yep.

Matt 35:20

So you guys gonna do a show like Saturday night?

Joe 35:23

I have no idea. I mean, there's people that are planning shows Friday, Saturday. I mean, like I said, they're playing Vegas, they're playing Las Vegas National Saturday. Um, I know Kudra's gonna go live while they're on the course. I I mean, I don't know. I just want to hang, I want to hang with people, so yeah, but I got the kids, so yeah. We'll see what happens.

Matt 35:50

Come hang with me in the handicap cart at Rhodes. Uh I got my dad gave me a black cowboy hat. So I'm I'm thinking about you're the sheriff. You're gonna be the marshal, he's gonna drive around and hand out Marshall Matters.

Dan 36:12

Marshall Neaters, Marshall Matters.

Matt 36:16

Matters. I'm the Marshall that matters.

Dan 36:20

You should bring your kids out, Joe. Just get a rent a cart and bring the bring Theo and it sounds terrible.

Joe 36:26

It sounds terrible.

Dan 36:28

Sounds terrible, Theo.

Joe 36:30

I can do Theo. I can do Theo. Yeah, Quinn's no, she's wild. She's dude, she's crazy.

Matt 36:39

Better be a new fucking Oak Island tonight. Do you know how upset I was there was no new Oak Island?

Dan 36:43

There's gotta be there's gotta be one. If they do two weeks in a row, I'm gonna be pissed.

Matt 36:47

I'm gonna be very upset. Dude, you hear did you hear this? The shit that's going on at uh Skinwalker Ranch.

Dan 36:58

Did you watch that show at all? I watched the first two seasons. I haven't watched it since.

Matt 37:02

Yeah, you the last season and a half is it's better. Um, it's still it's still a fucking drone and rocket fucking jerk off fest.

SPEAKER_03 37:14

But yeah, look at the birds, they won't even fly over the top.

Matt 37:17

Yeah, um, but they they caught somebody on camera out there removing something from the ground. And yeah, and they went out to confront them and they like set up a fake car to make them think that the car was parked on a hill, and it it was sketchy, but apparently uh there's reports going around that the government came in and shut the facility down and told everybody to get off the property. And the the owner of the guy that flies in the helicopter from Salt Lake is like trying to get the word about out what's going on, so it's apparently some like real shit went down.

Dan 37:56

Oh Epstein's airplane hanger.

Topgolf, Stock Talk, And Brand Choices

Matt 37:59

Then then Blind Frog ran. Did you hear about that? Yeah, so the the son, the crazy kid that fucking dives headfirst into holes, right? Yeah, fucking killed a guy when he was in jail here in Vegas.

Joe 38:14

What the fuck?

Matt 38:17

Yeah, that's why that show hasn't been back on. He got arrested in Vegas and then murdered somebody.

Dan 38:24

Wow. Show's going on meta right now.

Matt 38:28

He's bringing out the metas.

Joe 38:29

Yo, chasing daylight podcast. Let's go. Premium subscription.

Dan 38:37

Premium subscription.

Matt 38:39

Oh, good heaven. We gotta get that premium shit going.

Joe 38:45

Nice. Hey, we're gonna go. Hey, there was a lot of people up in there tonight. A lot of people in there tonight. Let's see what the more than last week, too.

Matt 38:53

Yeah, yeah.

Joe 38:55

Shout out whatnot. Bringing the people to the pod.

Matt 38:58

Bring in the people to what they need.

Dan 39:04

Peeps in the pods. Peeps, peas in the pods.

Matt 39:07

It always shows it's always so delayed. Pops it up. Uh, it'll be up there tomorrow. We're at 600,000 lifetime views now. 600,000 every week. Nice, nice. The website's taken off. Happy about that. That's another thing. I wanted to fucking sit here and work on the website for uh time on the couch, but it's like I just can't focus. It's so hard to focus. So let me go watch some Oak Island and stretch my knee. Yes, sir. Let us know. Let me know, Joe, when you find out what uh hole and shit you guys are all starting on, and then me and Jeremy will come find you.

Joe 39:58

Yeah, it's gonna be a fucking shit show. Um, because I have not seen an email about the time change. But Bubba told me that there's a time change, so kind of makes you appreciate what I do, huh? Not at all, but um all you gotta do is text me. All you gotta do is text me, and I'll let you know where we're at.

Matt 40:21

Yeah, okay, that'll work.

Joe 40:23

But no, if because the whole thing is is like it's starting at 8 a.m. and Theo starts school at 8 a.m. and there's a before school situation, and he's like scared to go to school by himself, like not see us or some shit. So um, but time to nut up, boy. That's what I told him. I said you gotta you gotta get it together, bro. You're gonna be you're gonna be by yourself for 15 minutes. You can handle that shit. Um, but um it's gonna be at supposedly it's changing from 8 a.m. start to 9 a.m. start. And uh I texted uh the crew that are playing. We'll see. Um I'll text Bubba. I'm assuming there's gonna be like uh email for it because that's what my local uh league does.

Matt 41:17

What does our local league do? I missed that.

Community IRL: Meeting Whatnot Friends

Joe 41:20

Do those emails are they are there any type of lot of fucking emails, a lot of emails. I warn everybody to update you, to update you on the times, but I'm assuming there's gonna be an email that says, hey, don't show up too early. Um but yeah, I'll text, I'll text Bubba on Thursday and make sure like that's what it is. Um, but currently it's 8 a.m. So but he said it's changing to nine, so well that'll help you out. Yeah, it helped me out 100%. But also then I gotta hopefully none of these full or slow players. So you're gonna pick up the kids by five at least.

Matt 42:01

The parking lot's gonna be so full you're gonna be parking down the street in the neighborhood.

Joe 42:04

It's gonna be Uber, it's gonna be Ubers, probably. So oh, that's true. Probably a lot of VIPs for the Vegas boys.

Matt 42:14

I'm gonna send Tice a message and say, Hey, uh none of what happens on Friday needs to be associated with us whatsoever.

Joe 42:23

So Bubba Bubba talked to Tice, and and Bubba called me and he was like, he was like, Hey, like we're just trying to do a tournament, we're trying to have fun, uh, or we'll we'll take care of the course or whatever. So supposedly Tice was like kind of worried about it. So I hit up Slice. Uh shout out to Slice, about to get banned from whatnot, but uh obviously the homie again. He's he just got banned. He's got he's been banned like three times. He got suspensions crazy. Wow, there's somebody, there's somebody attacking the the 30 sale guys, yeah.

Matt 43:00

But it was bound to happen.

Joe 43:02

It is what it is, though. Like they're doing their thing. You don't have to participate either. Like, you can leave the show, right? I want something from it. Shout out the Sly, shout out Bay Area, shout out uh Brentford, shout out, you know. It's not they're not telling you you have to buy or else you're gonna die. It's on you at the end of the day.

Dan 43:29

Is Bay Area getting suspended too?

Joe 43:31

I don't think so. I saw Bay Area popping up like the past couple days, but he did get a seven-day suspension recently, from what I heard. Um but I told Slice, I said, because Slice is uh friends with Tice as well. And I was gonna ask you, but I told Slice, hey, because Slice is playing. I said, Slice, hit up Tice and be like, he's kind of worried or something about this, so and tell him you're playing. And then it's this and that, and explain the situation. So I don't know. It's gonna be fine. It's gonna be fine.

Matt 44:08

They have shit show tournaments out there.

Joe 44:10

Exactly. Like they had the MGA out there.

Matt 44:13

Oh yeah. They have shit show tournaments.

Joe 44:15

That's probably gonna be way worse. The MGA. So no, I'm looking forward to it. I just hope it's not I hope these fools are not slow players. Don't play slow.

Matt 44:29

You better hope it's at Concord then, because if it's at Legus or Lexington, they're gonna struggle.

Dan 44:35

They're gonna be struggle. It's gonna get slower in the afternoon because that's when the alcohol's gonna take effect. Last nine holes is gonna take three hours.

Joe 44:45

I mean, I'm gonna be out at like 4 30. So I think we'll be fine though.

Dan 44:51

I would hope so. I would hope so.

Joe 44:53

I think we'll be fine.

Dan 44:54

It's nine o'clock start. You're not out by 4 30. It's seven and a half hours.

Joe 44:59

Yeah, no, nine o'clock start. Uh so it's 3 p.m. We should be out of there. But I want to hang out too. That's the thing. Like, I don't want to I don't want the pace of play to impact the networking time with all the people that I've met on the app. So understood. I think it's gonna be fun. I think it's gonna be fun.

Matt 45:18

Oh hey, we forgot to tell everybody it's a nine-hole tournament.

Joe 45:23

You need to speed it up. You need to speed it up.

Matt 45:30

You gotta pay$350 if you want to play 18.

Joe 45:33

No, the cool thing is that I'm playing twice this week. I haven't played in a month, so playing tomorrow morning and then on Friday. Super cool. So stoked about it. And then uh I'm juggling the kids all weekend. Katie's in Key West. So Yeah.

Dan 45:52

How long is she out there for?

Joe 45:54

She leaves Thursday. She's coming back Sunday night for her 40th birthday. She's going out there with her friends. So you know what that means. Golf trip bucket. Ah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:08

Yeah.

Matt 46:09

Let me stick that in my front pocket.

Dan 46:11

So she's not doing any, she's not doing any work, she's just going out there for a party and relaxation.

Joe 46:17

Just uh hanging with her friends, which is great.

Dan 46:20

And that's hell yeah.

Joe 46:21

Fuck yeah, probably go do it.

Dan 46:23

Nice, nice mental break from you and the kids.

Joe 46:27

Go go whenever you want to go. Go go whenever you want to go. Because when I want to go, then I got golf trips to play. I gotta I gotta go too, you know. It's yeah, that's healthy.

Matt 46:39

Yeah, Dan, that video is pretty much what they did.

Joe 46:43

Oh, okay.

Matt 46:45

I I don't it looks a little aggressive on the bone cutting because they they told me it was millimeters that they took off.

Tournament Timing, Kids, And Pace Of Play

Dan 46:54

Yeah, when I saw that too, I was like, holy fuck, that should happen to Matt. God, I want to see it.

Matt 47:00

Dude, when I went into the room, the operating room, so the anesthesiologist meets me and he's like, Okay, sit up. You know, we're gonna do the uh gonna put you in the the spinal tap. And and then so I I lay back down and and uh I see the doctor and he's in like full hazard gear. He's like head to toe. He's got the fucking the beekeeper you fucking yeah, and I was like, damn, you know, but it was crazy that I I spent more time with the anesthesiologist than the actual doctor. He he came in and said, Hey, how's it going? How you doing? All right, see you in a few, and that's never saw him again.

Dan 47:34

Yeah, that's kind of what happened. I mean, obviously wasn't having surgery, but when I got my colonoscopy, doctor came in and said some said something for like three or four seconds, and that was the last fucking thing I remember. Yep. 20 minutes later, I woke up. Hell of a nap. Woke up with a swollen anus.

Matt 47:53

Swollen anus. Blue flowers, blue flowers. That was the best sleep I've ever had. Maybe there is something to this asset.

Joe 48:08

Blue flowers is hilarious, honestly.

Matt 48:14

All right, I think we'll wrap it up. Oh shit, what happened to Dan?

Joe 48:18

I don't know. You kicked him.

Matt 48:19

I didn't kick him. He said his device is not connected. All right, we're gonna wrap it up, anyways. Thanks everybody uh for the subscribing for CDP Premium. We appreciate you. Good stuff is coming, promise. Good stuff is coming. Just hang in there. The longer you support us, the more we're gonna support you. We really do appreciate it. We're trying to do something special here, and we're glad you're a part of it. So we'll catch you.

Joe 48:43

Seriously, seriously, thank all y'all supporters, man. Love it.

Matt 48:46

We'll see you next week. Oh, Dan's back. Hang on.

Joe 48:51

Let Dan know. Hey! Dan, give Dan signing off.

Matt 48:54

Dan, sign it off.

Joe 48:58

Dan signing it off eloquently, though. Elohim. I'm gonna use my other camera.

Dan 49:03

Hey, thank you guys for uh tuning in for the uh after show and we're showing very eloquent.