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369: Akshay's Putter Controversy, $900 Tee Times, & The Players Preview

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Welcome to episode 369 of the Chasing Daylight Podcast! 

This week, Matt, Joe, Jeremy, and Dan cover Akshay's big win at the Arnold Palmer Invitational and dive into the heated debate: Is he anchoring his long putter? The boys also discuss Gary Woodland's incredibly emotional interview about his battle with PTSD, Rory McIlroy tweaking his back, and Jon Rahm capturing a LIV Golf win in Hong Kong.

With major season energy in the air, we preview The Players Championship, balk at the wild $900 tee times at TPC Sawgrass, and share a legendary story about playing barefoot night golf at Shadow Creek. Plus, stick around for Matt's absolute disaster class in hosting AI-generated golf trivia, and find out who takes home the ultra-rare 1-of-100 Garsen Stadium grip!

Episode Breakdown:

  • Giveaways & Gear: We announce the 1-of-100 Garsen Stadium grip giveaway and talk about the realities of equipment tinkering.
  • Tour News & Recaps: Recapping Akshay's API victory, Jon Rahm's LIV Hong Kong win, and Rory's back tweak.
  • Gary Woodland's Battle: Reacting to Gary Woodland's deeply emotional interview about his post-surgery PTSD.
  • The Anchoring Debate: Analyzing Akshay's putting stroke, the long putter trend, and whether he's breaking the rules.
  • Matt's Knee Rehab: A candid (and painful) update on Matt's grueling physical therapy following his knee replacement.
  • AI Trivia Disaster: Matt hosts a Jeopardy-style golf trivia game powered by Google Gemini, but completely botches the answer key.
  • The Players Championship Preview: Discussing the "fifth major" at TPC Sawgrass, $900 tee times, and making our picks for the week.
  • High Roller Golf: Swapping stories about expensive rounds, including playing barefoot night golf at Shadow Creek.

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Matt

What is up, everybody? Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. We are live tonight on YouTube, and we thank everybody so much for joining us. As our good friend Payment Feld says, smash that like button. It doesn't cost a damn thing. Support the show, help us out. Get those likes going. Smash that like button. And uh, if you're not subscribed, do so. Joe's just on what not out in the show. It's awesome for him. Jeff Norris already in the house. Thank you so much. Oh, yeah. Check out this picture. Look at us. It's us at the at the players.

Joe

Yeah, yeah. Live drivers.

Matt

Drivers on the birthday. Yeah. So you can have some fun with AI, you know. You can have some fun.

Joe

You love it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. Looks like uh yeah.

Joe

If you guys are new here, please subscribe to the show, first of all, and hit the like button. Leave a comment. We're gonna have a killer giveaway today, a one of one hundred grip from Garson. Shout out, Garson. You can use code Daylight15 with where they do their business. Uh, I'm not gonna say that here. Sorry. At Garson's website, is it Garsengolf.com, right? Yep, yep. So GarsonGolf.com. If you want to get a grip, a killer putter grip, love them, love them, love them. Shout out, Garson. You can use code daylight 15 and check out, but we're gonna give one away. It's called the stadium. Okay and there's only a hundred of them made. We're gonna give one away. All you gotta do is comment and be present at the end of the show. That's a cleany boys. It's a great looking list.

Matt

Yeah, and you know what you know what it'll look good on those AI milled blue with the gold heads.

Joe

Yeah, the one.

Matt

I mean, if you have if you have an AI one milled butter, whoo! That's a banger right there. Absolutely banger. And of course, we always have you know regular, regular Garson stuff, special edition Garson stuff. We got Garson stuff everywhere. We got Garsen stuff right here. See, I got a new lid right here. Right Garson in the hat.

Joe

Put my mic stand down so you can see the Garson right there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, right there. Right. Carson's name Jeremy's still in the shadows.

Joe

Jeremy's got the the blackout special edition Garson. You can't even see it.

Tour News: Akshay, Woodland, Rory

Matt

He painted a box black. Wrote DGP all over it. It's already mine, but thank you for showing me. Ah all right. All right. So uh a couple things going on in the golfing space. We can chat about if you guys want to. Uh top story, of course, was Akshay's win out at the Arnold Palmer. Uh coming from behind. Daniel Berger was leading the whole entire tournament and uh didn't didn't play the last hole very well. And uh so they went to a playoff. Akshay won on the first hole. So that was good. Uh, did you guys catch the Gary Woodland interview?

Joe

I saw some of it last night.

Matt

Did not saw the footnotes. Wow. Wow. Uh it's it's an amazing story. If you have not watched it, I'm sure golf channel has it on their website or somewhere. Yeah, I highly recommend you watching it. Uh, if everybody doesn't know, he had a brain lesion and had it removed. Um, but ever since then he's been dealing with PTSD like really bad. And uh he he said that he wanted to come out and tell everybody about this because he's kind of faking being okay because he wants to be, you know, not a way to be out there, be and be a player and compete. And uh he's not okay. I goosebumps thinking about this man, yeah. Yeah, crazy, but crazy emotional interview and just seeing him broken. It's it's yeah, he broke down for sure.

Joe

I was crying and everything.

Matt

I mean it's got a couple of really good stories, so uh that is in the news.

Joe

Uh, congrats to yeah, I don't want to use this for you know anything, but you know, BetterHelp. There's things out there. I know BetterHelp be sponsoring podcasts. Um, there's a bunch of uh avenues for you to take if if you need that. But Gary Woodland, a legend, legend, legend. It's the one of the best stingers out there. Shout out to Gary Woodland. Good for him.

Matt

Amazing golfer, U.S. Open Champ, too. Uh Ricky Castillo won in Puerto Rico. Uh John Daly's kid was in the hunt there after a couple days. Uh fell off at the end. Blades Brown finished third. Stacked young kid field in that tournament. I didn't get to see much of it because I had other stuff going on. Uh Rory withdrew from the API. Uh, a little back tweak. Wanted to get rest up for this week. Kind of an important week for him. 1 MA.

Joe

That's that was the homie J Mac. He we know what we're talking about. Shout out J Mac.

Matt

All right. Uh, and then John Rahm uh is off the non-winning Schneid and uh got himself a win in Hong Kong for live. So how how are you guys doing this evening? Doing great, yeah, good.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Anything exciting that happened over the weekend?

Joe

Just feigning, but other than that, other than that, afraid you I know, I know. At least I have the ability to, so yeah, yeah, you're right.

Matt

I'm four more weeks before I can swing a golf club. So it's been there though. Yeah, it's been four weeks, and man, I was talking uh the gentleman who is doing our major trophies this year.

Joe

I was chatting with him today, and I told him I said him this year. Um you say yet or no?

Matt

Yeah, I can see in the house. Uh he just rebranded his speaker just rebranded his brand. Um, it is now called shit.

Gear Talk: Garson Grips & Merch

Joe

Also, guys, since there's a lot of you guys popping in, we're gonna give away a Garcin grip that's one of 100 tonight. So all you gotta do is comment and be present at the end of the show. We did the whole spiel earlier, but just letting you know, Reno, Reno.

Matt

Maybe I have it under the VGM. Oh, yeah, it's called Scratch Sign Co. Uh used to be custom, used to be custom wedge wood, but uh he's rebranded to Scratch Sign Co. He does custom signs. If you've seen the signs where it shows like a correct divot pattern and then a poor divot pattern done on wood on Instagram, uh he's the one who's doing those. So interesting. Yep, we'll have those Boulder Creek and uh Coyote Springs. So awesome and comments going crazy. Love it, yeah, yeah. Thanks everybody for being here. Yeah, yeah. This gentleman won last week. Yeah, I did. Did you get that yet? He's we're having some scheduling conflicts. He's trying to get up here. Uh we were gonna try and do it tomorrow, but my PT got.

Joe

He's getting the other one. He's uh he's gonna get the one of 100.

Matt

Yeah, he's getting the other one that I'm currently not allowed to show yet. So that I it was sight unseen, so I told him, you know, you get to pick. You you the first one to win, you get to pick. So we'll have another one of those to give away once April gets here. But run the Callaway bag. No, I'm not running that Callaway bag. That was a gift, and I absolutely love it. So I have a I have an even better one behind the the monitor that is awesome, but we're using it for putters right now.

Joe

Yeah, I will tell you guys this stuff. Like, we have some stuff that you have never seen that's probably pretty sick that you would love to get, and it will never run because we are such big fans of golf and the game, and uh yeah, you'll probably never see you'll probably never see some of the stuff we have uh hoarded in our collective garages. So be lucky you've seen some of what you've gotten.

Matt

Look at that Oakmont Gym. Yeah, yeah. But it's a it's a like Beetle Bailey hat. It's so bad. Beetle Bailey. I could never wear that.

Joe

I am gonna let go of some of my uh masters things probably soon.

Matt

Um yeah, I only have a couple, I only have a couple things, but we're gonna those tickets for not it's not masters related, but those Torrey Pine tickets.

Joe

Oh, these are these sick.

Matt

That is one of the best things you've ever picked up.

Joe

25 bucks, 25 bucks, and it's got the playoff one. It's got the when he beat Rocco, we came back broken knee, Monday playoff 2008, US Open Tiger Woods win. Oh my, these I love these things. It's got the prices on there, it says no cameras, no phones, no. Oh, yeah, back then.

Matt

Yeah, remember the phone phone police at the tournament?

Local Golf: Course Takes And Layouts

Joe

The guy five bucks, 25 bucks, crazy steal, and that is I mean, there's seven of them. That's what four dollars each, not even$350. I hit up good boy originals. I said, Hey, I mean, I don't necessarily need it myself, but if you want to borrow these and do like a print for what you do, because he makes shout out good boy originals, used to work at Callaway, started taking pictures of cool shit and uh selling prints. If you guys don't if you've never heard of Good Boy Originals, go check them out. But and he he messaged me back, he said that is some dope shit. And he didn't he didn't confirm that he wanted to use them, but I let him know that he could if he wanted to. Not trying to brag. I mean, I'm just letting you know, you know, you if you get out there and hunt and you look for things, you're gonna find things, you're gonna find things.

Matt

Get out there and find some stuff. Yeah, so the the Garson grip, I'll do I'll do our little spiel. Uh, you know, we've shown you images of it right here, right? So they're this year they are doing the major, the 2026 major collection. This one is called the Stadium. Yeah, it's a stadium venue, the 17th hole. The guy it's it's an amazing atmosphere. It's arguably one of the best tournaments of the year because the field is super, super stacked. There's no pro-am. Did you see Kevin Kisner on Barstool talking about why it's so good? I saw a clip. I I don't remember what it was. Wow. I mean, they take care of the guys. It's it's a special event for the for the players to be there and compete in it. Primo conditions, amazing golf course, hard golf course, and a lot of great history. Uh so they they're gonna have uh five grips this year for this major collection. Yes, the players is not a major, but everybody calls it the fifth major, so they're gonna why not? Let's do it.

Joe

Hey, might as well.

Matt

So, yes, we'll have uh they'll have one for the masters, they'll have one for the US Open, they'll have one for the British Open, and one for the players or PGA Championship. So keep your eye out for those coming forth. Only a hundred produced once they're gone, they are gone.

Joe

So what I love so much about the players is that course forces you to shape shots. I think that that's what that course does. You have to shape it, yeah, and that I think that's what makes makes TPC saw grass so good, and also Pete Dye and his uh craft and creativity, like it will fool you. And I don't know if you saw that clip where they were asking, What is your uh PGH or somebody, but they were like, What's the hole that scares you the most? And a it what did they say, four? A lot of them were saying four. Where it's like it's like a birdie hole, if or it's three or four, I can't remember. But I'm like, I never would have thought, I never would have thought it was that one. Because it's like a little cut off the T. I mean, the what it runs out, you can get into the water, and then it's a little chipskiing or to the to the green or the hole. But that was interesting to see.

Matt

14 that's got the water left where Tiger yanked the three wood and fell to his knees and hit it in the water. Um, I know that's a tough whole. I don't know.

Joe

I don't know which one you're talking about, but yeah, it's but I I think that's what makes that course so good and the players itself so good, is because the course is super demanding of you having control of your golf ball. Like you gotta cut it, you gotta draw it, like you know, 16. You have to hit it, you gotta hit a draw, you know what I mean? If you want to get a shot at two, and the dude, there's so many instances on that golf course where those cut guys, that's uh I don't know.

Matt

Dan, how would you feel standing on that T-box? Do you take it over the water?

Dan

No, probably not. I probably try to hit a draw, yeah. Go with it.

Joe

Yeah, you think on 18 forces you, it forces you. Yeah, well, I saw also on 18. They're like, You just you just line up to the line of the water and you hit your cut, and if you overcut it, you're in the middle of the fairway. If you baby cut it, you're on the left side. If you swipe it, you're in the rough, you know what I mean? So it's I would I I JJ Spawn was the only one that said 18 was the scariest hole, which I think is tournament was on the line coming down the street.

Dan

Tournaments on the line there, yeah.

Joe

That t-shot is intimidating as hell, and none of them said 17. I don't think none of them said 17 for most of the for those guys, yeah. Easy, yeah.

Dan

It's a wedge, but I mean, we we all tiny.

Joe

We all took drivers. We've played it, yeah. We've played it, we've hit driver over there.

Matt

All right, that that was that was the play. So sometimes AI don't get it. Definitely not a golfer.

Joe

Sometimes AI AI doesn't golf. AI doesn't golf.

Matt

Uh hey, so I I was going through uh cleaning out one of my shelves over here, and I found a bag of stickers. So check that I found some old bangers. Okay, look at that. Oh, I still got one of those on my car. Three of those. I got uh a couple of the little ones. All right, I got I got this one. One, I got one of these. Oh, I like I got I got a bunch of these. This is this is pre-dan. So yeah, I got a bunch of those.

Joe

Then I then I found I got this is one of the yeah, I like those ones, yeah.

Matt

Yeah, so I got like three of those, uh, and then I found uh another one of these. So some of these will be included with the uh grip that goes out. So there you go.

Dan

Yeah, I'm gonna have to grab some of them stickers from you.

Joe

Yeah, I have a drawer full of stickers, like I want one of those pre-dan ones too.

Dan

The pre-dan ones, yeah.

Joe

I have in all the all the whatnot guys. I have all their stickers in this fucking drawer, dude. I'll throw it over there. So many, I have so many things.

Matt

Uh so anybody get any golf in over the weekend? I know Jeremy played a money game at Anthem, hung out with his buddy Butch again. Yeah, I did.

Joe

That's a good one.

Matt

Oh, that's Man Man.

Joe

Can't wait for Dan to go up top.

Dan

Yeah, it's gonna be sick. I'll be here before you know it, man.

Matt

I know we buy two and a half months, a month and a half. Yeah, you uh two months. If you uh were able to listen to the after show last week, it was all about us deciding how to book a flight, riveting, riveting content, riveting stuff, yes, it was yeah, uh and then we booked it what five days later, yeah.

Joe

Within like five minutes, everything. Yeah, yeah, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Check, check. I was watching uh, I was on whatnot watching J Mac show, and I was I was helping Maud and I was like, be right back. Gotta book a flight. He's like, Oh, where are you going? I said, Land.

Matt

And then Dan wasn't answering. We're like, Oh my god, does Dan know Dan's like already booked? Booked. Yeah, it was good stuff. Uh see, or Nori said something earlier. I missed it. He said uh he played Arroyo for the first time. Where did that comment go? I got it, I got it right here. I'll put it up. Yeah, that was fun. What did you like? Arroyo's not my jam.

Joe

I Nori, yeah. We're not huge fans of Arroyo, so curious what you think about it. I that for us, mostly it's layout. That the layout, like you got a drive, a couple blocks play, like you know, adventure through Aunt Aunt Jemima's house, and it's not fluid, it's not fluid. That's the thing.

SPEAKER_02

I think there's some really good holes on that course, it's just so random.

Joe

Sure.

Matt

Yeah, it's it's very random. I I'd much rather play Sienna. Yeah, I'd rather play Sienna. The country club course is way better than Arroyo.

Joe

It's still a little scatter brain, but same thing for me with Bears Best. I mean, I know it's going private, but it just didn't flow. It just didn't feel like it flowed. Everything. Yeah, it's gonna flow now for sure.

Matt

Circuit for the first time. Wow, that's that's a that's a good one for your first time. That's one of my favorite courses in town. Absolutely love Rio Seiko.

Joe

Always gonna be Rio Seiko. We call it Rio Seiko deal. Yeah, he says layout is super annoying.

Matt

100%.

Joe

Yep, exactly. Yep, yep, yep.

Matt

100% annoying. And what I can't stand is how because it's so close to the Red Rock Country Club. Uh God forbid you make a right turn and you're on the wrong side and you get chastised. And you could die driving to the range. You could you could really die. Very risky. Got paired with two members. Yeah, that's a that is a fun, fun golf course. I absolutely love, absolutely love that golf course.

Joe

Glad to see you. It's gonna call it Rio Seiko forever. Yep. It's Rio, it's Rio Seiko to us. I think I got my first. I think I got my first eagle at Rio Seiko on uh what is that 15, 14? Is that par five before the four and that that that great par three? 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, yeah, 14.

The Players Course Strategy

Matt

Yeah, that's a that's a hard hold eagle too, because that second shot is not not a short one. Yeah, yeah. Made a killer putt there. The wind was not fun. Yeah, I bet. It's been breezy, breezy. Now we got a heat wave coming. Yeah, we've had a fairly light winter, really. Oh, like it's this has not been the winter. We've had an extended fall with a couple cold days. Yep, and then almost at 100 next week. Well, you know, we've been playing golf out at Cirquet for a really long time, and it was Rio Seiko forever. So hey, call it what it's called. But if you ever hear us talking about Rio Seiko, it's that's Cirquette because that's what it's always gonna be does. Yeah, yeah. All right, um, let's talk about Akshay, because he's catching some heat now that he's in the spotlight even more. Ashtray, uh Tiger called him. Is he anchoring? What do you guys think?

Joe

Looks like it. It looks like it, it does look like it.

Matt

Looks like it to me too.

Dan

Yeah, it definitely looks like it. Now, I don't know if just to clarify, if the anchoring is the grip of the putter to your anchor to your body, if he's got his finger over the butt end of the putter and that's touching his body, or anything touching his body is anchoring. But there's no space there, and yeah, it looks it looks very anchorish.

Joe

It looks pretty anchor-y, boys.

Matt

Yeah, pretty anchorish to me. I mean, you're you're not supposed to be able to, you're not supposed to touch your body at all with that top hand.

SPEAKER_02

So is it just uh the announce like people outside watching the tournament that called them out? Like, is there players that are talking about it?

Matt

I haven't seen any players say anything, but a lot of post about it.

Dan

Yeah, a lot of posts and a lot of golf people. Yeah, it's like those golf content pages that are doing it, like ways to golf, and you know, yeah, um, what's that other one? Views golf or some shit like that.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like if he was really doing it, I feel like player would be the one that would be calling him out.

Joe

Yeah, I mean, and and that's the thing. We're looking at we're looking at pictures, like we don't know for sure, but I mean.

Dan

I bet these players are probably so dialed in on on what they're trying to do that they probably don't even notice that he's doing it, or either that or they couldn't care less.

Matt

Hey, they're focused on their game, they could give a you know. Now maybe that he wins, now they'll maybe look at it, but I don't think it's a concern of anybody's that's playing the tournament, it's just people outside. You know, Bernhard Longer's been getting chastised for exactly ever.

Joe

If Leatherface Leatherface, if you can see a gap on Leatherface's putter, then Axe needs to have that same gap. Yeah. You know, because Leatherface is the the legend of the anchor. And if he's not touch, if he's not that close to his chest, then you shouldn't be.

Matt

So it's just where you need to have no way for them to enforce it because in order for them to enforce it, they'd have to okay, freeze. Yeah, go move, go up and you know, take a take a scorecard, you know, and see if they can rub it between his body and the club. It's it's a it's a silly rule that is unenforceable because you know they'd have to do something on the spot.

Dan

It's a dumb rule. I I honestly feel like even if he was anchoring, it's still not easy to no, it's not easy. I've tried you still got to match up your ball and your speed, your line and your speed, and everybody else is gonna have that same opportunity, and he's doing it with a putter that's like fucking 50 inches long, you know. So I it's one of those dumb rules like hitting out of a divot, you know. It's just some of these some of these rules just need to go out the window. Yeah, yeah.

Matt

I I would I've uh how do I say that? I like what Harvey Peanick used to say in the putting stroke, your hands need to be touching. End of story. Your hands need to be touching each other in a putting stroke, and uh if they went to that rule, then the long putters would go away.

Dan

How many long putters we really got out there besides Akshay? How many people are rolling long putter?

SPEAKER_02

Adam Scott, PJ's Lucas Glover Glover, uh Glover's in a long putter?

Matt

Yeah, he's putting of the lab. Um and Adam Scott and Akshay. I can't think of anybody else. We'll have to look and see. Probably five to ten.

Joe

So we'll say at least leather face. Leatherface.

Dan

Well, I'm not too concerned about him.

Joe

I know, he's cheaper. Lucas Glover is uh champions now, too. Is he? Right, is he? I think so. I think so.

SPEAKER_00

He could be, yeah.

Dan

Wait down it. It's been around a minute. Keegan would probably be. He's a he's uh he was a belly putter for a long time, right?

Matt

Yeah, but he he was the the not yeah, not a broomstick, but belly. That's still anchoring letter, isn't it? Yeah, it's still anchoring. That's why they got away from it.

Joe

Yeah, yeah. Yep. Yeah, no, I yeah, yeah, it's dumb.

Matt

So I got uh Akshay, Adam Scott, Lucas Glover, Will Zalatoris, Siwoo Kim, Young Hung on, Camilo Viegas, and other notables include Danny Lee, Brendan Grace, and Odario Molinari.

Dan

Brendan Grace, all those guys are in in broomsticks, yeah.

Joe

Wow, holy shit. Hey, it also if you're in the chat, do you use a uh um one? Do you use a broomstick? If you use one, throw W in the chat because I'm curious because I can't use one.

Matt

I've tried the only person I know that uses one is Michael Vasegas.

Joe

He does. I haven't seen Mike in a long time, but yeah, I it takes a lot to get used to because you're just so I mean you'd have to grind so hard to like 76 inch room.

SPEAKER_05

Uh I have every card, yeah.

Matt

This is a good one, Kyle.

Joe

Kyle.

Matt

Every time every time I see a long butter, I assume that person has demons and wish them the best. Exactly. Yep.

Joe

Can I use it? Impossible to judge pace. I feel the same way.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I couldn't, I can't do it.

Joe

I we have the the one you see someone go to one, you feel like they're searching, yeah, because they feel like they're not putting well, so they're searching well for something.

Matt

Harry Hall, friend of the program.

Joe

Uh he switched to a spider, and I'm like Callaway guy, Harry.

Matt

No, no, he's not a Callaway guy anymore.

Joe

Yeah, he's a Shrixon or Bridge on.

Matt

He plays everything, he's free agent all across the board. He's a Taylor made uh 4D driver now. He's playing Taylor made drivers, ping fairway woods.

Dan

I think he still has the Callaway Irons, but he's all I see a lot of people going to those new Ping Fairway Woods. Yeah, yeah, a lot of those.

Matt

But he was he's the been the second best putter on the planet for two years, yeah. Get him to number one, yeah.

Joe

He's a number one putter with that old trusty uh we'll see.

Matt

I mean, he did have a top 10, he did have a top 10, so and he was, I think, fifth in strokes game putting for the API. So he made a little run at the end, but uh, you know, just too many, not enough holes left.

Joe

So but hey, top 10 in his at that level though, you're like, why didn't I why did I lose three strokes or a stroke against the field in every round?

Matt

And it's like and it Sam Burns his last event past Harry, the last event of the year past Harry to get the you know best putter statistic-wise, otherwise it was Harry for I mean, it's like okay, you know, that just shows you that these guys they are willing to do whatever it takes to, you know, and then you have some guys that have been rolling the same putter for 20 years.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

It's and it's crazy how close. Like, if you look at all the stats for putting, how close all of them are. It's like oh, it's a couple dozens, thousands, yeah, exactly.

Matt

Yeah, it's so small, it's like an F1 race. Oh my god, you finished that.

Long Putters And Anchoring Debate

Dan

That's the thing about those things about those guys, though. Even even the worst guys statistically on tour are still pretty damn good at what they do.

Joe

Oh, yeah, the margin is so small, the margin is tiny.

Dan

You know, like look at to me, I you know, look at Finao. The guy is an incredible player, can't pup with a shit. Like, this is just my opinion. But look how successful the guy is, you know what I mean? So just goes to show you that, even though they're you know, they may like a little bit. So that could be part of the problem. Maybe he's got one of the new pain putters, but even when you're bad at something, those guys are still top of the class, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.

Joe

I I think it's one of those things though, too, is like you find a putter that works like Harry, like he was so comfortable over that, right? And then something happened where he's like, Oh, I gotta fix this. But you know, he goes back to I bet you if Harry went back to that putter, probably kill it. It's the same thing for me. Like, there's one putter that I love putting with shut off strokes game, Neil, the homie, and I'll I'll switch it up. And every time I go back to that putter, I put very well. It's like that's my putter, that's the putter that was made for me, and that's that's it. But you know, you get tired of looking at the same thing, but every I every time, every time, yeah, it happens every time when I pull my stroke skein out and I go to something else, maybe round or two. I try something else, yeah. It might work, it works, it works, and I'm like, Oh, I'll pull out the stroke skein. I put lights out. I mean, I feel like it's there's something that is for you, and you need to find it. And there's nothing there's nothing wrong with trying other things occasionally, but they're it's like uh your person, right? You gotta find your person, and you find your person, and that's your putter. Shout out putter persons, skeet tech in the house. What have Ski Tech?

Matt

Uh official tinkerer right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the mayor, he's the mayor. I I I tinker a lot.

Joe

Tinker town, tinker town mayor right here.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, let's let's rank us in order of tinker it, tinkerness, tinker. Uh one. Yeah, you're one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you're top your top dog. I would probably put Jeremy.

Matt

He's been yeah.

Joe

No Joe.

Matt

Jeremy, what a two? I would put well, cause Jeremy, like, because he'll throw a different shaft in something every now and then. He'll he's got the new level irons, and he went back to the title list, and then he's back to the new levels, and he said I'm gonna go play the Mizunos.

Joe

And I have the same iron, same driver, same woods for four years.

Dan

Yeah, but I've also seen you or seen you publish five different putters the last five rounds, but that's because that's because of whatnot.

Joe

That's because of whatnot. Yeah, it's all because of whatnot. I gotta try him. You know what I mean? I get it. I do love the pro platinum. I have, I haven't, you know.

Dan

Dan doesn't tinker much. You you do like to change up the butter every now and then. I was gonna say, I've tinkered more in the last two years than I ever have before. I'm wearing off on you. You yes, just trying to get everything dialed in.

Matt

Yeah, and I'm sure that's what Harry. I mean, when I saw him and he was playing the ping driver, and I said, What's up with that? He's like, I wanted that green jacket, you know. So he's he's searching for things to try and make his game better. So kudos for him for doing that. Man, you were rolling that Odyssey so damn good.

Joe

Yeah, it's different though. At that level, too, you have access to so much more data and um instruments or tools, whatever you want to call it. And you know, if you see something while you're out there, I mean, because you have the access to whatever you want.

Dan

And uh pretty much. Uh oh. Sorry, sorry, I got distracted. Max Crosby stuff. No, well, that, but Bam Atabayo from the Miami Heat scored 83 points tonight. What? Jesus, yes, second highest point game over. He just he passed Kobe tonight. Kobe, right? Yeah, wow, 83 point game. Holy shit. Damn, son. 150 points they scored. Shout out, big male. That's nuts.

Matt

That's ridiculous. That is yeah, that is insane. Every time I play people, they trip out on my SRT Triball Odyssey putter. Ha! That's a classic right there. Tribal. Also, balls.

Dan

So that thing is it's decent massive. I remember that thing. It's just slightly smaller than that putter that you and Jeremy were fucking with at uh secondhand golf. That thing was ridiculous. That thing looked like a steering wheel with a shaft on it, but it felt really good. It did. That was the crazy part. I can imagine they had like a 10 million Moi on that.

Matt

Oh, that thing had the center of gravity, the MOI on that thing was insane. You hit the ball and you don't feel it for 10 minutes.

Dan

That's a six-inch sweet spot about that pick.

Matt

Yep, that's what it felt like. It was wild. It's like impossible to miss the center of the it just flows back in there right away. So funny.

Joe

Do you still have that?

Dan

Oh god, no. It may be in the pile.

Joe

Yeah, oh my gosh.

Dan

I still have audio audio nightmares about here you are. Where are they now?

SPEAKER_02

Where are they now? That was crazy. What putter did you have that on?

Matt

Uh a Ricky Ricky Johnson putter. No, I I I put it on an Olsen. How dare you? Yeah. Yeah. Sacrilegious. Yeah, disrespectful. It was so disrespectful. Um, so that's that's why I got rid of that putter because I the level of disrespect. That thing finally sold. Berger called me up the other day. Uh oh, really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, someone finally bought it.

SPEAKER_02

The copper one, yeah. The penny joint face, yeah.

Dan

He had that for like three years, didn't he? Two, almost two, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It was there every time I went to see it. It's crazy. Well, it's not out there as much as it used to be.

Joe

Nice. Olsen uh been laying a little bit low too.

Matt

So, yeah, I don't know what's going on with that guy, man. I I brought out my long neck uh yesterday and was rolling with it. Um, and it's it's crazy with with my new setup and my new stroke. You know, I'm like, oh, maybe you know, uh I putt better with everything else as well. And yeah, I put it well with it, but as soon as I put the goodwood in my hands, it's like, oh, that's trash. That good setups. I gotta get I'd have to get the the long neck, I gotta get the lie angle changed on it. It's it's a little too upright for what I'm doing now.

Joe

But uh that long neck is the reason I've always wanted a long neck, so it's so good.

Dan

It's funny calling a long neck Olsen trash. No, no, no, no, no. I know what you're saying, I know what you're saying as well.

Joe

Compare the giraffe. Get yourself a giraffe. If you don't have a giraffe long neck, get one, try it out. The original face balance of the world. Yeah, try one. Go try one, please. Just find one and try it. Yeah, a little good long neck. There's the beauty right there. Oh, that's that's a pretty boy right there.

Dan

Yeah, that is maximum length.

Matt

That's a big giraffe.

Dan

Go, go, gadget neck.

Matt

Yeah, yeah. Uh, that is a big neck on that thing. Uh, great putter, though. Great putter. Shout out, Olsen. God, it feels good. Just it's just not heavy enough. Just not heavy enough. I'd love to be able to send it back to him and have him put some weights in the sole, but uh that could take three to five years. And probably, yeah. Not gonna not gonna do that. So, all right. Anybody watch any of the live that took place? Negative, negative, negative. I watched Bryson look frustrated as hell. I saw AK wasn't playing good, uh, people on the leaderboard I never heard of, and Rom wins. There you go. That summed up the live event. They did have a drone crack crash into a tree, that was pretty funny. Nice.

Joe

Did Bryson figure out his uh his like deal yet, or no? I saw that was like a huge thing like a month ago with LA golf. No, no, his like live contract.

Matt

Yeah, nothing's happened with that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, didn't he ask for like 500 million?

Dan

That was like the rumor, yeah.

Matt

Yeah, I mean he also asked for 51% LA golf, and that didn't happen, so we'll see.

Joe

Yeah, we shall see DTC, supposedly, right? So, yeah, not sure what's going on with LA Golf.

Matt

But don't know why you go backwards, but uh Preston was telling me uh the guys at TPT have a new shaft coming out that is very unique, and as soon as I get the okay to tell more about it, I will. But uh I'm trying to get my hands on one of those uh because it apparently is really, really good. So put your shaft.

Dan

Yeah, I want to try their shafts.

Matt

I see a lot of press switching to them. Yeah, I do too. I I want to try one too. And I and I told him, I said, hey, I I love my LA golf shafts. The the hundred percent graphite ones are absolutely fantastic. The Soho, I'm not a huge fan of, but you know, I'll still play it. Um, just because I like the weight and and uh how it feels. Uh but you know, if they basically told all their vendors to F off. And uh interesting. So I told them I'll be a putter free agent, butter chef free agent.

Joe

Shout out BGT as always, as well, though.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I've I've got a BGT Tor one that I'm not using. You guys want to try it? That's the all graphite one, right? Yeah, I have no snap or anything. And my good one. Yeah, you've got that one, yeah.

Matt

Yeah, I'll I'll give it a try. I'll I'll I'll run some tests on it. Especially now now that I'm gonna start working again this weekend, I'll have the quad back and I can I can dig in some uh some putting data with the quad.

Joe

Oh, you're going back to fitting this weekend?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Sunday. Back to work on Sunday. Oh, light duty, yeah. Light duty.

Matt

Yeah, doctor signed off. Julian's like, you just drive and and sit. I'll do everything.

Joe

No, you gotta get that knee moving, bro. Get the knee moving.

Matt

Dude, I tell you, this I hate to go off on a tangent, but this last week. Oh shit. This last so Friday, I was at I was at therapy, and I was hoping that he'd be like, hey, we're good. If you want to come back, you can, but you don't need to. You've been released to do all the exercises on your own, just keep at it. And he was like, you know, I I really was hoping that your knee would be at 115 on its own. And he goes, I can I can get you past that, forcing it, but on your own, you're only at like 109, and I really want you to be at 115. So I need you back, six degrees of separation, yeah. And he goes, and I really need you pushing hard to get that knee bent. And so, dude, it's it's fucking bend your knee. What's so hard about it? Just bend your knee. Oh, what's so hard about it is all the muscle and the tissues underneath it are like fuck that.

Joe

Bend your knee. If you guys are new here, Matt got a brand new knee. He's an old, he's an old boy. I'm an old doctor, we call him daddy. Yeah, uh, and he's got a new knee, and he's got to bend it to a certain degree. And it can't he can't get there yet.

Matt

It hurts, it hurts, and the exercises that you have to do hurt, and man, that's why I was telling the guy from the sign company. I'm like, this is this is so much harder than I thought it was gonna be, just because you know, it's like you don't want to be in pain, so when you're not in pain, you're like, ah, but then you're like, I gotta go hurt myself now.

Dan

So, yeah, you gotta listen like some David Goggins before you start your therapy, yeah, yeah.

Matt

Just stick your leg in your loft and lime is the Metallica, just listen to some Metallica first. Oh, hate breed, hate breed was my jam when I used to run.

Joe

Just drive by sports, drive by sportsmen's and just be like, fuck that. Um bending this knee, you know what I mean? Sportsman's lodge, going to the bathroom, old time understand that one. Yeah, that's that's not safe for work, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, exactly.

Matt

Oh, six degrees of copay. Yeah, it's it's it's tough, man. It's tough. And so he's like, I want you to work it really hard this weekend, and then Monday we'll see how you're doing, you know. And so I go in Monday and I'm at I'm at 110. I'm like, I just beat myself up for two days, and I got one more degree. So it's like he's like, that shows you how much harder you gotta work it. I'm like, good lord. Yeah, fucking group.

Joe

Uh shut up, dad. Doing the work though. Dad's doing the work, shut up, never stopped.

Pro Gear Free Agency And Shafts

Matt

I already got uh me and and I talked with Tim Flote today. We have a game plan in place. So I got four weeks before I can start taking the club and swinging it. So uh got a game plan in place to get me back. I got this up here so I can play landman.

Joe

Uh also uh yeah, shout out uh Tim Flote. He popped up on the course command website. Yeah, that's why I had my name. You guys can go to course command.io. Is that the correct address, right? Yep, I think so. Yep. I still need a course command.io. If you're looking for coaches in your area, it's uh the homie Colby. Shout out the West Bros. Shout out Colby. Um, he built an entire website. I don't think there's an app yet. Is there an app yet?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, it's an app, yeah, web app, yeah. But he's working on ios stuff.

Joe

So if you want to go, if you want to learn how to play golf and find uh coaching. Great way of finding info. Course command.io. Go check it out if you're looking for a coach. But I saw because uh Colby texted me the other day, and uh he's like, here's your login or whatever. I can't remember. I know he keeps on that to me.

Matt

I gotta do it. I keep on forgetting it.

Joe

Yeah, so I did it right when he sent it to me. I did it right when he sent it to me, not like Matt. I did it right away. But course command.io, if you're looking for coaches in your area, and also if you have a coach, tell them about it. They can sign up, coaches can sign up, players can sign up, and uh they're building a network of coaches and players to help you get better at golf. Shout out course command.

Matt

Check it out. Yeah, Tim's awesome. Absolutely. Yeah, he's he uh chatted today on Zoom. He's uh gave me a breakdown of where we're gonna start and everything that we're gonna do. So I'm uh told him, man, I am Jones and putting is fun, but god, I want to hit a golf ball. Wanna hit a golf ball so bad. I know the first time I do it, I'm gonna be like, that was so strange.

Joe

I had three pros follow me. That's cool.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, hey.

Joe

Flote follows me. Go and also Sean Rowe.

Matt

If you're in Vegas, hit him up, hit him up, hit him up, hit him up. All right. So we have the players this weekend. If you've been following golf channel at all, you'll notice that live from the players is running 24-7.

Joe

I love live from it's one of my favorite shows in the entire world.

Matt

Just live from wherever, like dun dun dun and the debates and the topics, the conversations, they're fantastic. The insights behind everything.

Dan

Uh memes after.

Joe

Yeah, you know it started, man. That that song right there, that song right there, that little jingle. Hey, golf is back. I love that. I love that track.

Matt

One of the best tournaments of the year. So I have been using uh Gigi, which is Google Gemini, to uh get trivia questions. So I I did that today for some trivia questions with this, and I thought, wouldn't it be fun if we did it like Jeopardy? And so I asked Gigi to phrase it like Jeopardy. And then I said, Hey, how about some graphics? So I've got five questions. You guys haven't seen these yet. Anyone can play along. It says a thousand dollars on there, but there's no money involved. This is all just for fun. Uh, but I will throw it up and you guys uh can see who answers correctly. He holds the unfortunate record for the highest score on the par 317th hole, carding a 12 during the third round of the 2005 tournament.

SPEAKER_02

Who is Russell Knox? Remember when he hit like two shanks in the tree?

Dan

It's an old school guy, it's an old school guy. It's 2005. I know this too. Um hang on. I got his name, I think, on the tip of my tongue.

Joe

Yeah, get it. Dang it.

Dan

Uh was it Bob Tway?

Joe

Uh no. Uh not Bob Tway.

Matt

No, sorry. Andrew McGee. Andrew McGee. That was Jerry Pate. Oh, Jerry.

Joe

Jerry Pate. Yeah. So all right. Jerry, Jerry Pate, one of the dude.

Dan

Even J Mack agreed with me. Good job, J Mac. We lost though.

Joe

If you're in Alabama, go play uh go play that Jerry Pate called Timberline, just south of Birmingham.

Matt

All right. 1986. He made tournament history as a first golfer to ever record a hole in one on 17's iconic island green.

SPEAKER_00

1986.

Dan

Uh Raymond Floyd.

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_00

1986. Damn.

Joe

I gotta go. I gotta go watch some VHS tapes down here. Yeah. Can you wait a second?

Matt

See the so the first round of trivia questions came back. What hole is the iconic Island Green on? And I'm like, yeah, I need something harder than that. So yeah. Um this was Bob Tway.

Joe

Oh, you guys got it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that was Bob Tway.

Joe

Tway boys. My history's all screwed up. Rob shut off Rob Chapter.

Matt

Yeah, Rob's pulling him out.

Joe

Bruce Lee.

Matt

Bruce Litsky. Wow, look at you. All right. The next one. In 1996, he became the first champion to shoot a 64 in the final round to win the tournament. A feat later matched by Davis Love III and Scotty Scheffler.

Joe

No 11 years old. 11 years old. What was that? Oh, hang on.

Dan

96. No, it was uh was it Steve Jones?

Joe

Uh shit. I've never even heard of this person. So let me pull out some of my cards. 93? These are from 93. Was it Chris Perry?

Dan

Was it that guy that chipped in like on chipped in on 18?

Matt

Was not Bob May.

Joe

Paul Zinger. A zinger, right here. Zinger.

Rehab Check-In And Coaching Plans

Matt

I gotta see if he's in my stack. I've never heard of this person.

Joe

Where's my stack of cards?

unknown

There they are.

Matt

Yeah, I don't remember.

Dan

There's something 30 years ago. I can barely remember 30 minutes ago. Oh my goodness, I have his card.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. You do? Yeah.

Dan

You do?

Joe

Yeah. Brad Fable.

Dan

Oh, do I have Brad Fable? Oh fuck. Brad. I would have never got that.

Matt

Never heard of this person, nor he's a fable.

Joe

He's a fable. He's a fable. He's a fable.

Matt

Brad Fable. Wow. That's awesome. I had his card.

Joe

Dude, how sick is this card, too? Walter Morgan. I have his autograph. I don't even remember that again.

Matt

Uh wait, hang on. Did we already do this one?

Joe

Brad Fable.

Matt

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

Which one is this? All right.

Matt

Oh, I got him. Oh no, I messed up. Damn it, I hit the wrong one. Oh, you fucked up. Damn, I screwed up.

Joe

Dude, you suck.

Matt

Well, here we go. Overcoming five shots, Sunday deficit in 1998. He held the record for the largest final round comeback alone until Scottie Scheffler tied it in 2024.

Joe

That was Brad Fable. Let's just give it. This was Charlie Sifford, right?

Dan

So that was Brad Fable in 98. So who won it in 96?

Joe

So this one overcoming a five shot Sunday deficit in 1998. This one is still live if anybody wants to guess.

Dan

Yeah, for real. Colleen says it right. Cue the womp sound, yeah, on yourself.

Joe

Yeah, Alex Trebek. Yeah, bring back Alex Trebek. I'm sorry. For the largest phone around. Uh Hal Sutton. Hal Sutton. No, that's not Hal Sutton.

Matt

Freddie Couples. Freddie Couples.

Joe

Hey Fred. Shout out Boom Boom. Boom, boom. Boom boom. Freddie Couples.

Matt

So this one you might actually get. Now at least I know the level of trivia that we we can do. We'll bring this back for the masters. After winning the first players' championship held at the TPC Sawgrass in 1982, he celebrated by tossing architect P Dye into the lake.

Joe

Oh I know this. Shout out Pete Dye.

Matt

This is not right. You got that one wrong too? I the there they got all messed up.

Joe

God damn it.

Matt

Was it Jerry Pate? Yeah. Oh shit. They went back, dude. Forget everything you heard the last 10 minutes. Yeah, just forget everything that you heard. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_05

Why did that happen?

Joe

Great job, Matt. Brian Orr. Brian Orr. Just to see how bad you fucked up.

Matt

Good lord. So Brian Orr in the house. Jerry pay live. Jerry Paid through Pete Dyna Lake. Bob Tway holds the unfortunate record for the score of a 12 on the par three.

Dan

Yeah, so I got two right. Yeah.

Matt

In 86 tournament history um for the hole and one. Freddie Couples in 96 came the first champion to shoot 64 in the final round. And Justin Leonard overcame a five-shot Sunday deficit in 98.

Joe

There he is, right there. Legend. Oh good lord. Man, I watched that all the shit. Good. Yeah. Good job, dude. Hey, congrats to you. Well done, Dad. You tried.

Matt

Man, I had everything loaded.

Dan

And then you had sportsmen before you did these questions.

Matt

I I re I had to go reset the internet because my internet wasn't working, and it knocked them all out, so I had to add them all back and I put them in the wrong order.

Dan

Damn it. Those are AI answers.

Joe

You know what I really want to do? I want to go to Compo DeCampo, Champa de Champo, Casa de Campo, and go see this dude's go pay your respects.

Matt

Congrats. I asked one out of five correctly. I would blame it on the drugs, but I haven't had any today. That that could be the problem. I haven't had any today.

Joe

Just blame it on the degrees of separation of your knee joint.

Matt

But shout out Google AI. I mean, come on.

Joe

Yeah, you can't trust everything. You can't look at Google AI and totally fucking got it wrong.

Matt

No, no, no. I fucked up. They did it right. I messed up. So hey Brian, look, that's that's us at at uh at Sawgrass. Yeah, that's us hitting drive.

SPEAKER_02

Imagine the magic that Brian could produce at Sogras. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Gotta get there, Brian.

Joe

Good lord. Yeah. Brian said he hasn't played it either. God, I want to go play that dude at the I think Trey is the only one I know who's played it.

Dan

That's an expensive tea time. That's an expensive. Isn't it like$775 or$800 now? Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

Matt

$900. 900. Yeah, that's fucking nuts.

unknown

Yeah.

Matt

If you want to play the week after or the two weeks before, it's like$900.

Joe

Yeah. I think it's$750, like normally. Yeah, Brian, that's that's that's yeah, we hit driver.

SPEAKER_02

We all hit it over the green. That's an 80-yard shot right there.

Matt

We hit it over the grain stands.

Joe

I skipped one. We skipped them all across the lake. It was like uh skipping master.

Matt

We skipped contest. We had to bounce it off the the boards and bring it back.

Joe

There we go. Let's go, birds. Oh another round of 18th.

Dan

Yeah, I'll be back there tomorrow at noon. 111.

Matt

Make it hurt. Pushing, man. Pushing. She's like, what are you doing? I'm like, throwing it to 115. Sound like you're dying over there. Yes, I am. I am.

Joe

Oh 100%. I only want to play an overseed, yeah. Brian, yeah. I mean, you want to play it how it how it looks, of course. Yeah, I feel you. You need to get out there and take some flicks, bro. Brian.

Matt

What do you guys start to consider expensive for a tea time? Just asking for myself.

SPEAKER_02

Just depends on the golf course.

Matt

It depends on the golf course, yeah. I mean, over a hundred bucks, it's getting pricey. Especially since it used to be so cheap here.

Joe

Locally, like if we're playing in town, over a hundred bucks is too much on vacation. Like depends on the limit. Yeah, it depends on the course. If I'm with the family, like depends. But if if we're checking off a crazy one, I mean sky's the limit, you know what I mean, with the homies. If we're checking off a crazy one with the homies, I might uh maybe just do it. You know, that's what credit cards are for, right?

Dan

600. 600 is the most I've paid for a single time, and that was at Kiowa. I think 650 is the most I've ever paid.

Joe

Um I think 500 I paid at Harbor. No, what did you pay at Shadow? Shadows pay like$650. Actually, yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_02

It was it's$650.

Joe

That's my most that's my most expensive one.

SPEAKER_02

Shadow, and it and we got 27 holes, 18 in the dark. In the light, well worked, yeah.

Joe

So it was like 400, it was like 400, yeah, and then not, and then the nine was like 200.

Dan

I'm trying to think. I think you guys got like$1,800 worth of golf for$650.

Matt

Exactly. Hey, I would never pay that much.$600 by the Lord.

Dan

Hey, I get it, David. I get it. But if you ever chance to it might be worth it.

Joe

I guess I guess they I guess Davy don't be doozing it like I thought he'd be doozing it. I mean, I mean just depends on where you're at. Sometimes you just gotta doze it, dog. You know what I mean? I thought you do's it. Then they took your shoes and made you play barefoot.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they took my shoes, played barefoot. Joe and I are on a very small list when it comes to Shadow Creek of people that have played barefoot at night. Oh, yeah, not too many.

Matt

There's probably a ton, but nobody knows at night.

Joe

Oh, yeah, they only had it, they only had the lights up for a month.

Matt

You mean to tell me you don't think a whale could say, Hey, throw some lights up, we're gonna go play some golf on the 18th.

Players Trivia Mayhem

Joe

It's not as easy as it's not.

Matt

I know how this town works, you know how this town works.

Joe

Yeah, I mean, potentially, but hey, we have not seen evidence, but there is evidence of us playing barefoot. So, hey, I have not seen any other people play barefoot, a shadow. So, as far as I know, we're the only ones.

Dan

So were your guys' feet green?

Joe

Nope, they were beautiful, massaged, pure luxury, moisturized. Yeah, that's right.

Dan

They don't because they don't fuck around out there, yeah.

Joe

That's right at all. Miss Bush in the house. What up, Miss Bush? Well, y'all hearing bare feet.

Matt

All right, so the odds for odds for the players, run this down real quick, and we'll get out of here. Uh Scotty is a front runner at plus 355, Rory at plus 1100, Xander at 2250, Colin at 2400. I wouldn't be surprised to see Colin do something this week. His iron game has been exceptional of late. Uh Tommy Fleetwood 2450, Ludwig Aberg at 3100, Cam Young at 3200, Siwoo Kim at 3500, and Hadeki at 3700. Actually, not in that list. It's funny because it's all first name people. Scotty, Rory, Xander, Colin, Tommy, Ludwig, Cam Young. You just have to say Cam Young because if you say Cam, you think Cam Smith.

Joe

Major season is back. I got I which when I what one of the things I love about golf coming back and the major season coming back is I get an email from Matt BB. If you know, you know 3,000 people up in a pool picking players. And uh I picked my players yesterday, and you got a shot I went in like six grand off of 30 bucks. And I'm gonna have to uh because I just picked blind, but I gotta go back and look at it because live from the players, you find a few things out. You you find a few things out. Live from is the best, man.

Dan

Remember when Andy North used to have his master special where he would talk about you know, he'd have those big ass poster boards and he'd be like, uh, no first timers have ever played Augusta before and have never had a master before, so that eliminates these people. Like they don't do that shit anymore. It's not entertaining enough. Yeah, yeah, I guess. I guess for a while there he could just be Scotty's gonna win.

Joe

That's what it's been like Scotty gonna get the bed because he didn't play well this past week at at Bay Hill, so yeah. We'll see we shall see.

Matt

I mean, there's only been one repeat winner back-to-back ever, and that was Scotty.

Joe

So who did I pick?

Matt

I can't I can't remember.

Joe

There was someone I really like, but I'm gonna go back and look.

Matt

Tommy Fleetwood, I think, is a good pick.

Joe

I think I think Tommy, I could see Tommy winning it for sure. Uh I got I got Tommy Fleetwood, Justin Rose, Ludwig, Minwuli, Akshay, and Daniel Berger. Daniel's too wild. Too wild. I I think Min Woo could do it. Like he might take some more time to figure it out, but I think Min Wu could figure Sagress out. I felt that way. Yeah.

Dan

I'm actually I've been glad to see Ricky kind of returning it back into some form the last couple of weeks. His name's been on the uh first page of the leaderboard the last couple game uh events. Went back to a Scotty. Tiger Woods plus 30,000. I heard some shit that Tiger wouldn't even be eligible if he was able to play. Probably not. Somebody said that to uh to follow, yeah. Probably not. But he wouldn't, he wouldn't be eligible to play. I'm sure he'd get in. I'm sure they'd probably make exemption. Mr.

Matt

Woods, right this way, please. First T. Here you go. Yeah, right.

Dan

Who would you like to play with? Oh, you want to play with JT and Tom Kim?

Matt

Sure, no problem. And your son, he's not even on tour, sure, no problem.

Joe

Yeah, open arms for sure.

Matt

Uh it's gonna be an exciting day when he decides to teat up again.

Joe

He's I think he's playing the masters. Tiger's playing the masters. Oh, is that breaking news, Joe? Absolutely. Breaking news. I talked to Tiger today. He is playing the Masters. Can't wait to see Tiger teed up again in Augusta.

Dan

He's playing play the Masters, gonna miss the cut. We have ninth surgery on Tuesday after after the master. Calling the Tigers winning the park three contest on the first always clips.

Matt

Yeah. Breaks his back.

Dan

That's uh play 36 holes at Augusta and have a cur season ending surgery.

Joe

I think that's the only that's the only one that he cares about, really. Like deeply, that's the only one he cares about. And he's probably been working at trying to get to Augusta.

Matt

So J-Rose does always compete big in the big tourneys.

Joe

That's true.

Matt

It's gonna be a good one. It's gonna be a good one. And uh, what's it is not Peacock and and I hate that streaming. I hate having to sign up for Peacock for three months to be able to watch a tournament. Got so many subscriptions, like you can't put on one of those. Do you have direct TV?

Dan

No. Oh, I'll just say they usually do a masters package thing where you have like four channels you can watch. Oh, the masters app is all you need for I just streamed the masters app to TV.

Joe

That's that's there's have they released the taste of the masters yet?

Matt

Oh, oh, we need to talk about that. Uh, are you all good for Sunday at Matt's house for uh Master Sunday?

Dan

Should be. That's a good day. I'd like to. Yeah, I would like to. Hopefully, hopefully we get our package this year.

Matt

Yeah, I'll I'll look into that and get that ordered. Uh, what a debauchery that was last year.

Dan

Uh hopefully the UPS doesn't fucking take it like he did last time.

Matt

Yeah, bastard.

Joe

UPS sucks. If Bush is still here, UPS trash. Assholes stole my master. It was probably Bush, honestly. Stole it.

Dan

Does he work for them?

Joe

Yeah, he does.

Dan

Fuck off. Yeah, you thief.

Joe

Crooks, bro. Crooks. Absolutely thief. Criminals.

Matt

No, you didn't. Oh, they stole our master's food last year.

Joe

Bush stole our masters. Yeah.

Matt

All right. We gotta do. Uh, I'm not gonna forget the winner this week. Uh, we've got 25 entries in there right now. Let me uh pull that up and uh remember you gotta be present to win now. If you are a CDP premium subscriber, what's it?

Dan

I'm getting all your addresses, and you'll never get a package. Yeah.

Joe

Uh hey, punch it chewy in the house. What up, punch it?

Matt

All right, let me bring this up. Where do I need to go? Where do I need to go?

Joe

Here we go, guys. If you've been listening, we're giving away a one of one hundred Gars and Grip. They've only made a hundred. All you gotta do, if you want to get a comment in right now, do it right now. You gotta be you gotta comment and you gotta be present to win. You're gonna win a one of one hundred Gars and Grip. Uh, it's called the Stadium Grip. It's a quad tour with the date or the year.

Matt

Uh there might be a comment on the episode right there.

Joe

Purple because aliens don't wear hats. Love it. Theresa. Oh, there he is. Surfack, get in there. What are you doing? Comment comment right now if you want to get into the giveaway. Uh, and if you don't win, you can also go to the garsengolf.com. Use code daylight15 at checkout. It'll save you 15%. Uh, these are called the stadium grips. They're doing a they're doing a major series. We're gonna have them all. I'll keep it in the plastic too. It's gonna be in the plasti boys. All right. Bunch of stickers for all the majors coming with it too. Not all of these, but just some of them. So I don't know if I don't know if more comments make your odds better, but you have to be present to win. We're gonna do this for all the main.

Matt

If you leave a comment, you get an entry.

Joe

That's all it does. Yeah, but if you're a premium subscriber to Chase a Daylight Podcast, you do not have to be present to win.

Dan

Oh shout out to Brown. Look at him. Shout out UPS. Yeah, your package is stolen.

Matt

That's what I'm saying. Boom. Yeah. 29. All right.

Dan

Come on, Colleen.

Joe

Oh, it's going to Brian Oren.

Dan

Come on, Colleen.

Joe

Theresa Buck.

Dan

She's purple because aliens don't wear hats.

Joe

She commented earlier, too. She commented earlier, too. Yeah. Are you coming live from Hawaii? She is uh she's a legend. She lives in Guam. Shout out to Theresa Buck.

Matt

I'm on a hater.

unknown

Absolutely.

Matt

Guam? I have to mail this to Guam.

Joe

Yep, we gotta mail it to Guam. All right. Oh retiring soon, I believe, right? Yeah, I think she's retiring soon. But uh huge supporter of Theresa. Thank you so much. Hope you have a fantastic time in Hawaii. Coming your way. There's only one hundred of these. Only one hundred of these, and it's coming your way. We're gonna do this for all the majors. All the majors. So tune in every single week. There we go. Yeah, expensive shipping. Shout out UPS.

Matt

Damn. Yeah, not sending that ground. Yeah.

Dan

You have to FedEx that one.

Matt

Yeah.

Tee Time Prices And Bucket-List Rounds

Joe

Yeah, but no ground on that option there.

Matt

Uh all right, Joe. You know how to get in touch with her to get the address?

Joe

Yeah, Teresa, let me know. I mean, we can maybe bundle it on a whatnot show or something, but it'll come to you. It'll get your way. Perfect.

Matt

Yes, we we know it's not a major, but everybody calls it. Everybody calls it the fifth thing.

Joe

And that's what that's something we didn't talk about either.

SPEAKER_00

But what do you want to say?

Joe

No, because they were I I was watching live from last night, and Brandle and they were talking about it, but major is it a major and they're trying to like you know. I don't know. We've talked about this plenty of times on the podcast. What classifies a major every year?

Matt

It's the best field, biggest money. I mean, it's a major hand.

Joe

Well, uh, what's what's the other guy's name? I forget his name because I don't watch much anymore because I'm watching Baby Shark and things like that. Yeah.

Dan

You're watching whatnot. You ain't watching whatnot.

Joe

Well, I I watch golf on the TV.

Dan

You turn it on and then you go on to whatnot.

Joe

Yes. No, I don't turn it on. I watch YouTube shows for the kids, and I go on whatnot because I don't like watching golf on the on the on the phone. But uh anyway, they were talking about it last night, and uh I think uh what they were saying was is what classifies a major is you can qualify for it in different parts of the world. So yeah, you know it's it's like it's controversial.

Matt

Exactly.

Joe

And they're trying to get some of the players to call it a major and it's a major event of the year. It's like the major event if you take it literally, yeah, it's a major event of the year. Yeah, it's it's the kickoff. Now if they change it to where it used to be, where was it back in the day, May?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

Joe

So it's I don't know. But anyway, yeah, it's the kickoff to the golf season. In my opinion, it's like one to go golfing. One day, maybe maybe we'll take a pit stop on our way to New Zealand.

SPEAKER_00

Van don't float.

Dan

Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

Joe

Twenty of the best golf, yeah.

Dan

New Zealand 2031.

Matt

Yeah. There we go. Yeah.

Dan

Yeah.

Matt

Uh not gonna uh not gonna do an after show this evening. Uh, I've got some some shit that I gotta get handled. Uh, so we'll be back next week with a after show. Um, trying to set up a few things to get some more episodes on there, so I'll let everybody know how that goes. I do want to say thank you everybody for tuning in. We're having so much fun doing this live. I don't know anybody else who's doing stuff like this live that's out there if they are fantastic. I just don't know about them. Uh, but we're having a blast. Uh Joe's bringing a ton of people in from whatnot. The our social pages are growing. Uh, we're doing it live on Facebook tonight just to see what happens and uh trying to get some more eyes on it. We do, however, need some help with the reviews and the follows on iTunes. iTunes is the boss when it comes to how podcasts get ranked and and pushed. So if you're following the show on iTunes, and Bush watching on the projector tonight.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

Matt

Nice. If you're on Apple and you're on iTunes, please go to the page, the podcast page, and follow it. And if you would like to leave a review, we would very much appreciate it. Those actually do help us grow the show, which is what we want to do. Uh, special thanks to all the CDP premium subscribers. That's number starting to climb, which means some good things are gonna be coming people's way. Once we hit a certain number, we're gonna be able to start doing better, bigger giveaways. And uh, that's what we want. We want to get you know, you guys that are supporting us uh some some some gear and some swag and some stuff that uh we feel is good shit. So check group text, Joe.

Joe

I sorry, that's what I just did. I said he's watching on the projector, I already did it.

Matt

Yeah, so if you just go if you if you have an iPhone uh or you can even do it from a computer, just go to iTunes and yeah, Colleen.

Joe

If if if you can't watch live, you don't have to watch live. We appreciate it when you watch live. But if you can't make the live shows, you can always the shows always come out on Thursdays, so you can go to Spotify, iTunes, wherever you get it and listen. But iTunes is the boss on top of that. That's where the podcasts really go down. So um if you're not on a on an iPhone, I don't know. Can you even download podcast iPhone on an Android? I don't think so. No, doubt it. But if you if you don't have an iPhone, you can go to Spotify, like it there, comment, and subscribe there.

Matt

And no, no, it's good. Come watch the show live, absolutely 100%. Yes, if you can, absolutely can do us a favor, go to iTunes, follow the show. That's the how many followers we have is what helps us get pushed. And then if you want to leave a review to let everybody else know, what an awesome time we have here.

Joe

Yeah, hit subscribe and like if you're on YouTube. We're here every Tuesday night at 7 p.m. Pacific Standard Time live on YouTube. Best way to check it, best way to watch, best way to interact. If you cannot be here for some reason, your kids got volleyball, your kids making hot baby shark episode that you just have to watch. There's yeah, there's a brand new baby shark episode you need to watch. Can't miss it. Baby shark drop. Yeah, but Tuesday night, 7 p.m. Pacific crumble cookie baby shark collab goes off at seven o'clock. You gotta hit the store. Yeah, yeah, you gotta be there for that new tailor-made ball drop and get one a couple sleaes of golf balls, whatever it is. But and it's always available on YouTube too. But the best way to interact is on Tuesday nights at 7 p.m. Pacific Center time.

Matt

Yes, we need to get to a thousand subs. That is something that will dramatically enhance us and the show. So, and we're we're close, we're we're less than less than 200, you know, we've got a hundred and a half to go. So, all right, Joe, wrap this up and let's get the F out of here.

Joe

As always, thank you guys for tuning in to the Chasing Daylight Podcast. We like I said, we are here every single Tuesday night without fail for the most part. I know Christmas during Christmas, we might miss one, but we're here every single Tuesday night. This was episode 369. We've been doing this for a long time. We appreciate you tuning in. Chase and Daylight Podcast. We love golf, and uh, we're here for you. Golf is the best. Make sure you get out there and hit those greens. Tune in to Chasing Daylight Podcast every single Tuesday night, 7 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. Like I said, if you can't make it, we're available everywhere. Podcasts can be listened to. So hopefully, we see you next week, Tuesday, we're doing giveaways every single week. Until then, you know what it is. We'll catch you later.

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