Chasing Darkness: E372 After Show

A single joke about buying a new putter quickly turns into the kind of golf conversation that spirals in the best way: the gear we regret selling, the clubs we can’t stop thinking about, and the tiny build details that only matter because we care way too much. We get into classic putter obsession, from Teryllium-era love to the practical question that hits every golfer eventually: do you stick with a blade because you like it, or switch to a mallet because the numbers say you should?

Then the plot twist: a chance connection with Dormie Network ties lights up a full-on road trip planning session. Arbor Links gets thrown on the table, and suddenly we’re mapping dates, debating drive times, and daydreaming about stacking rounds at Landman, Sand Hills, Wild Horse, Ballyneal, and even GreyBull if the logistics line up. It’s equal parts fantasy itinerary and real planning, including the part nobody posts about: stays, refundable tee times, and how quickly one detour can eat half a day.

We also go off the fairway into modern golf life: using AI to generate promo art and thumbnails, why some AI images are creepy accurate, and how reselling culture on Whatnot feels different now. The conversation gets honest about overpriced hype, seller drama, and why it matters to not take advantage of people. We close with a story that’ll make you double-check your locks, stolen clubs and launch monitors are a real thing, and it changes how you travel with gear.

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Transcript

Lab Putter Prank And Putters

SPEAKER_03 0:20

So I bought a lab putter. You bought a lab putter you didn't. I'm just kidding. I've been thinking about it though.

Dan 0:27

April Fool.

Matt 0:28

That's the hook. That's the hook. Dude, that terylum that Vanderslice has. I went out back and rolled it. Which one does he have?

SPEAKER_03 0:41

D22, that re-release from 2019.

Matt 0:49

Yeah, it's it's it's gorgeous.

SPEAKER_03 0:53

It feels so good. I regret it every freaking day of my life. I regret it on that. Yeah, that's a good one.

Matt 1:01

Yeah, it's now they're$1,200. I didn't have the heart to tell him that the LA golf shaft was installed wrong, but I didn't have the heart to tell him it was fake, but no, no, no, it's it's no, I'm kidding.

Joe 1:18

I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Matt 1:19

Yeah, they just put it in with the they lined up the the logo, the small logo on the back as the hidden spot, and it's supposed to be if you're looking at the putter from behind, you can see it. And so the big print is on the side of the putter, and so you can see it. Yeah. But he's like, You want it? I was like, Want yeah, dude. Do you want to just I want it? Yeah, I want it, but I'm not paying a thousand dollars for it. No, no.

Joe 1:51

Not when I have so what did he talk when did you see him?

Matt 1:54

Uh he came over yesterday to get a couple clubs redone and and uh put a new grip on that.

Joe 2:00

Did you did he talk to you about anything happening in his life uh about live selling or anything like that? I don't know. He just said since he's not on whatnot anymore.

Dan 2:11

Didn't he have a show recently? He told me he was having a show recently, or was scheduled to have one or something. I don't know. Because he said he went to jail because of the whole he got kicked out of or suspended from whatnot for something.

Dormy Hookups And Trip Dates

Joe 2:26

Yeah, there's been a lot of shit happening, and I haven't been on in the past two weeks because it's Quinn's or Theo's birthday, Quinn's birthday. We like we were out of town, and like there's been a lot of shit that happened, but I've been seeing the slice uh pop up, but I just I can't even jump on. But I was curious because I haven't talked to him in a while, so yeah, I'll get a text still active, so I'll get a text from him every once in a while.

Dan 2:54

Got any Scotties for sale? No, sold six, so I don't know. I met a guy today on the golf course by the name of CJ Brock, who has connections with the Dormy Network. Ooh, and he was talking, he's a big time, he's played a lot of nice golf courses. Uh course. He was telling uh talking to Trey and I telling us how we need to get to the sand hills. So I was like, Well, funny you should mention that. I'm going to land, man. So we started bullshitting and he asked if we played that one course that's right there in uh what is it, Lincoln, Matt? The one we saw that was a dormant. One that's a dorming network. The one that's dorming network, Arbor Links or Arbor Links or whatever it's called, south south of Omaha. Yes. So he asked if I've we've ever played that, and I was like, no. He goes, Well, do you want to? So we exchanged numbers, and he's going to call um uh somebody, I guess, and talk to whoever he's connected with.

Joe 4:07

And I'll see you guys later. This is great news. I'll see you guys later.

Dan 4:11

I gave him I gave him the dates on which we're gonna be there, and I told him the 27th and the 28th is not doable. Um, if he could do something the afternoon of the 26th, the 29th, or the morning of the 30th, then we could probably be a little bit more accommodating. So that's Arbor Links, right? Uh one of those, but that's called right. Uh yeah, Arbor Links, Arbor Links, yeah. So um that would be crazy. Yeah, it might be there. And then he said there's another one that he could probably get us on too that might require a little bit of driving. Um, it's another dormy club out, northern dormy course out there.

Matt 4:50

Um the other one is close to Sand Hills. Oh, yeah, that's a that's a ways.

Dan 4:59

Yeah, yeah.

Joe 5:00

What is the dormy club?

Dan 5:01

But he also said that he can do um um Grable. Gray Bull, yeah.

Joe 5:08

Yeah, oh my gosh. Oh that came up to that was that might be worth driving half a day.

Dan 5:16

He's like, I could probably do Graybull too.

Joe 5:18

Completely flip the flight.

SPEAKER_03 5:20

We'd have to leave out of Denver. Yeah, we would play Landman and then head west. Going west, boys. I mean, I'm down. That's a it's a yeah. I mean, we could play um wild horse in Gothenburg on the way to that. True, very true.

Dan 5:39

Yeah, because he's played like he played like cattle, what's that one? Oh wow, cattle rock, cattle rock company or something. Caprock. Cap rock. Caprock. Something cattle company. There's a golf course out there, so called Something Cattle Company. Um he's played uh uh Grey Bulls.

Joe 5:59

He said he played Wild Horse is like top 100. It's a top 10 public horse. Yeah, it's top 100.

Matt 6:08

And it's public?

Joe 6:09

Public, yeah, yeah. In the United States, it's top 100.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

Rock Creek, Rock Creek Cattle Company. Oh, Rock Creek, yeah. Okay, yep. I didn't realize that was there.

Dan 6:23

Um, I think that's nearby. Oh, it's in Montana. Oh yeah, he was talking about just all these fucking sick horses up in that area that he's gone to.

Matt 6:33

Well, isn't that the isn't that the one that the owner of the Knights isn't it is that's a discovery.

Joe 6:41

No, I know what you're talking about, but that sounds familiar with the name for sure. Yeah, cattle and sure.

Dan 6:47

Yeah, it's a dope horse for sure.

Matt 6:50

Let's see. Horse info.

SPEAKER_03 6:58

Might as play s might as well play sandhills too. I'll be out there.

Joe 7:03

Well, Matt's got a hookup at sandhills, right? Who was that?

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Who was that?

Joe 7:09

Who was that? I don't want to say. I was told I would totally I'll reach out.

Matt 7:22

I was told I'll reach out to you, but it'll be like really short notice. So that's what I'm just waiting for.

Joe 7:31

But if we if we make the detour to go play that, then if we go try and go play Grey Bull, you you'd have to send that.

Matt 7:44

Yeah. David Axeland and Dan Proctor. David Axland and Dan Proctor, that's who did Wildhorse. I love their logo.

Joe 7:56

Yeah, like a Vegas Hotel. It's top 100 in public in the nation.

Matt 8:01

Wow.

Joe 8:04

Gothamburg.

Matt 8:07

There's a runza really close.

Joe 8:09

Middle of nowhere.

Matt 8:10

Middle of nowhere. The pony's kind of along the south end.

Joe 8:14

Yeah. Remember the last runza spot we hit? That's it's like close to that.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

I thought it was south on the south end of Nebraska. Yeah, Kansas. Yeah, it is. It's it's oh, yeah, yeah. That freeway, the 80 or whatever, I-80.

Matt 8:30

Julesburg.

SPEAKER_03 8:31

That's right. Yeah, you're right. And then it's like a straight shot from Lincoln.

Matt 8:36

Yeah. We just take the 80 across.

SPEAKER_03 8:39

Yep. That wouldn't honestly like if that works out, that wouldn't be that bad. It would take us three hours.

Matt 8:45

Grey Bull is not that far from Gothenburg.

Joe 8:49

That's what I'm saying. Is like we'd have to make the decision is it if we can play Grey Bull, then we'd have to go play Wild Horse. Because everything else is going to be null and void. It's too far. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to eat up like five or six hours to drive from Landman to there.

unknown 9:07

Yeah.

Joe 9:07

So we'd have to play, go play Landman, and then we'd have to go straight to uh Grey Duncan.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

We'll go to Rodeo Dunes on the way home. Oh, yeah.

Matt 9:16

Dude Neal preview. If we could do preview play, this is not good a month and 27 days away. It's really taking a turn. No, I told you I'd be back.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

Imagine missed my daughter's graduation.

Joe 9:31

Imagine playing landman, gray bull, wild horse, landman, gray bull, wild horse, and then fucking rodeo dunes would be killing. Rodeo dunes. Oh because that's right off the freeway.

unknown 9:44

Yeah.

Joe 9:44

Valley Neal's a little more north, I believe.

Matt 9:47

No, it's it's it's south. It's incredibly east of where Rodeo Dunes is. It's dead east. Oh, is it? Yeah, dead east. Close to the Kansas border. Close to the Nebraska border. Yeah.

Joe 10:01

Downhill. We could do Landman Grable Wild Horse.

Matt 10:04

Yeah, that last runs of spot we got in Nebraska. If we went dead south, that's to Ballynial. Oh, okay.

Joe 10:10

Okay. Yeah.

Dan 10:14

You guys played Wild Horse?

unknown 10:16

No.

Joe 10:17

Played Wild Horse a bunch of times. Well, it depends on which wild horse you're talking about.

Dan 10:21

The one in Nebraska.

unknown 10:23

No.

SPEAKER_03 10:23

No, we were on the opposite. That's on the south. We were on the very north end.

Dan 10:28

You guys played Sataka?

SPEAKER_03 10:30

Yeah. Yeah.

Dan 10:31

Was that course nicer?

Matt 10:33

That's where the weed was.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

It was fun.

Matt 10:34

It was cool. Yeah, it was cool. That's where the weed was growing wild on the course, Dan. We played it in the wild weeds. Wild weed.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

Dude, it looks let's go to Bally Neal. Desolate. Yeah, I would love it. Maybe does Matt have connections at Bally Neal? Not this, Matt.

Matt 10:54

Matt, Matt. Connections, Matt. Tradition, Matt.

Dan 11:00

I don't know. I've never heard him talk about that place.

Matt 11:03

I heard that place is on. Well, hey, Dan, work on on Arbor Lynx.

Joe 11:14

And if we can land, play Arbor Lynx, play Landman, and then we just head west. Play play. I mean, who knows how serious this guy is, also.

Matt 11:27

Well, is is our yeah, that's true. Is is the uh what's it called? Uh quarry oaks refundable?

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Because we paint yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 11:42

Arbor links and hard rock sioux city is definitely refundable.

Dan 11:48

Uh one thing I forgot, I forgot to mention this. One thing he did say about that is that if he if we were to get on these dorming network horses, we would have to stay there.

SPEAKER_03 11:59

Of course. Well, we need a place to stay.

Dan 12:01

But yeah, nowhere, so I'll sleep on the floor.

Matt 12:07

We don't have yeah, the Arbor Links one. I mean, do they even have rooms there? I thought I saw like cabins. They probably do because it's part of their network. Oh, yeah, it looks like very bottom left corner.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Hi Quinn, happy birthday! Happy birthday, girl!

Dan 12:33

Happy birthday, birthday girl, birthday girl. No, happy birthday to you. Oh goodness.

SPEAKER_03 12:49

Nebraska City. I like your bangs. Yeah, they got a bunch of townhomes out of bangs.

Dan 12:59

Why do you hate them?

Joe 13:01

Because I gotta fucking blow dry him.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

Okay, Zayn has bangs too, his hair is so long. I don't blow dry him though.

unknown 13:13

Yeah.

Dan 13:15

I'm getting there. No, not yet. Matt does. Matt Matt looks like Martin Van Buren right now. Yeah, look at that. 23rd president of the United States, Martin Van Buren.

Joe 13:28

Woodrow Wilson.

Dan 13:32

Right there. Little mini Ben Franklin right there.

Joe 13:34

He looks like a Woodrow.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Wild. It's wild. Wild and crazy guy. Wow.

Dan 13:44

Theo.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

What are you doing, Theo?

Joe 13:46

Hey, Quinn.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

Oh, she just got a grip of hair. It was like, ah. Do you do Theo's bangs too?

Joe 13:54

No. Okay. You guys are done. Blowout fade. You can say hi if you want. Say hi.

unknown 14:05

Hi.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

Hi.

Joe 14:07

What's up, Theo? I said hello. What's up, Theo?

Dan 14:12

Tell your dad to take you golfing.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

So I'm done.

Joe 14:16

They said uh tell your dad to take you golfing. You want to play golf?

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Yeah.

Joe 14:23

You love golf. Is golf the best?

SPEAKER_00 14:26

Yeah.

Joe 14:28

You're right.

Birthday Chaos And Dad Life

unknown 14:29

I'm finna break it. Yeah.

Dan 14:39

He's like, all right, get out of here. Close that door.

Joe 14:49

No, he bumped her head into the fucking door frame on the way out.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Oh, that hurts.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

Yeah, she'll be fine. She will. Amazing how you're how much careless you are with the second child. Oh, absolutely. Yes.

Matt 15:06

Dude, I tell I tell that to the girls all the time. Like, Emma, it was like soft and gentle and lay her head down and sleep on the bed. And we'd watch her fall asleep and take turns. You know, Brooklyn, it was like, in the bed, shut the door. Be quiet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

Peace.

Joe 15:22

See you later.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

In the morning. Figure it out. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_03 15:29

Yeah. Take it home for the first time. You don't even notice.

Matt 15:33

Oh, she's oh, that was you crying. She is the complete opposite of Emma, too.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

I mean, complete opposite. Smart, caring. Uh smart is the first thing he comes up with. Oh, well, Emma's smart too. Brooklyn is like complete opposite. She's smart. She's wicked smart. She scares me smart.

Joe 15:55

Like the problem is, is fucking Theo just grabs her and just will fucking pull her everywhere. You know, like steal her. Stretch arm snacks, steal her snacks, fucking, you know, hit her with shit. And that's big brother, it's what they do.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

It's gonna go on for several years.

Matt 16:14

Yeah, and then if anybody fucks with her, even got two girls.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Oh dude. Is a shit show.

Joe 16:26

Well, Eric's the girliest girl ever.

Matt 16:30

When Eric and I first got together, she got pregnant and with twins, and we we lost them. But they would be that was so they would have been born in 2005, so they'd be turning 21 this year, right? Like right about now. Two boys, 21. Oh, this town.

Joe 16:51

I'd have moved into this drive them to spearmint rhino right now. You'd be driving them to spearmint rhino right now. Uh spearman.

Dan 17:01

Don't forget, bro. That's a fucking coachman's lodge guy. They might be going to Chica's bonitas.

Joe 17:08

That'd be a further drive, especially where you guys live. That'd be a long drive.

Siblings, Growing Up, And Regrets

Matt 17:12

Uh no strip clubs in Henderson. No, no more. No, there used to be one on Boulder Highway. That was the only one.

Dan 17:21

I remember that one. I've been to them. Um God, what was it called? That was the last strip club I went in.

Joe 17:28

I can I take a timeout real quick because anybody that play pays for the premium episode gets all this shit.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Oh yeah.

Joe 17:40

Imagine listening. You get all this sometimes they forget we're recording. Oh my gosh, it's so good. This is what it is.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

Cliff, we love you.

Joe 17:50

Yeah, Cliff, shout out Jordy. Uh I gotta text you.

Matt 17:56

This is awesome. Bad, yeah, so much fun stuff. Yeah, that in the uh video for amigos, they're when Julian's playing right-handed. I told Ju I I commented, I said, Trey juju scams you, he putts right-handed. He should have been putting lefty. He says I thought about that after the first miss putt. No mullies on the green. Yeah, it was pretty, it's pretty good. Pretty, pretty good. I'm gonna I think I'm gonna start posting stories back to YouTube J Mac.

SPEAKER_03 18:31

I might buy a mallet putter. Based so, based on the statistics that that thing analyzed, I mean I've always known my stroke is not a strong arc, but I've always fought it off with just liking blade putters. But I'm seriously considering getting one. I just don't know where to even start. I don't like faking like the inserts, it would have to be milled or something like that. Are you talking like full mallet or just a mid-mallet? I need well, I mean a mid-mallet's still gonna have hot ho tang.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Some hoe tang? Some hoe tang.

SPEAKER_03 19:12

Some toe tang, sorry.

Dan 19:14

Um sorry, I don't know.

unknown 19:17

Let me know.

Dan 19:18

You should know what you should do, Jay, is fucking just take one of your uh Scotties and send it to that Kane Kid guy and have him fucking have him get it all face balanced for you.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

Well, I mean, I have the long neck and it's nearly face balanced, but it's still I mean your your stroke is very back and through.

Matt 19:36

The only the the just the numbers that I was seeing today when I was digging into them, it's just that it it the the torque numbers were were weird, and I and I think it's just because it is a long neck um that you know there there's more area for the there to be flex in the face and impact because you know it's not a short little hazle, it's you know, it's not you know it's that thing's it's not welded, right? Is it it's one piece?

Dan 20:07

Um it shouldn't matter, but yeah, what about like a shed what about like a center shafted Scotty, like a golo, center shafted golo or something?

SPEAKER_03 20:20

I I hate the look of them, but it I mean what I at this point in my life and my golf career, I'm for whatever is gonna work the best. I'm sort of getting past the like being fancy, and you know, I'm okay now seeing because I mean with the driver that changed my mind. Like getting that driver because those solely based on numbers and performance. So I'm good with it.

Matt 20:47

Like if it works fine, you hit the ball like you did Sunday. It was impressive.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

That was unbelievable.

Matt 20:53

And those tight those tight fairways on the back at mountain, it was just dominating the center of the fairway. It was it was impressive.

SPEAKER_03 21:00

Yeah, so a mallet maybe in my future, or maybe a center shaft.

Matt 21:06

Well, I know a piss ton of putters that uh you can try out. Yeah, I haven't seen all your putters. Yeah, uh not only mine, but then the new Odyssey stuff too. So but I I'm I would really like to see what you do with a plumber's neck like the jailbird, because I have the jailbird plumber's neck, just just to see, just to see what if anything changes. It's not face balance, right?

SPEAKER_03 21:39

I know that's the depressing part. I'll have to get it extra short so it can just hide underneath all the other head covers.

Matt 21:48

Uh what you do is just cut out the cut the cover in half and just have half the putter sticking out. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

The cover only is

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Just put a driver head cover on it.

Joe 22:02

Yeah. Is it possible to send the live to somebody that's on a subscriber?

Matt 22:11

Like this right now?

Joe 22:12

Yeah.

Matt 22:13

No.

Joe 22:14

No.

Matt 22:15

We have to upgrade and then it ha it would be like how it was that time when it was a shit show.

Joe 22:23

No, I just I mean you you love AI, right? You're an AI guy, right? So um J Mac, who is we call each other twin because do you understand the story behind that?

Matt 22:38

I don't understand the story. I just know who you're talking about because you said my twin.

Joe 22:41

Yeah, so hit him far was at the PGA show and he called him Hittin Greens. He's not Hitting Greens, right? But he and there's a there's a there's a lot of story there that I don't know how much I could say, but um Joe loves that he can stuff that he can't talk about. I know J Matt J Mac is awesome, but I hit him up earlier when I was picking up Theo. I was like, hey, I suck at AI. I'm trying to get like a good thumbnail for my one-year show because I've been on on uh April 4th was my first show last year on whatnot. Now I don't run every week, of course, right? But yeah, um, but I sent him uh a picture of the little homies. You guys know the little homies, right? I know Dan does, right? I had the whole series.

Dan 23:37

Remember the little homies?

Joe 23:38

I sent him this, right? And I said, Hey, this is the inspiration, you know. I'm gonna do my one year. I got Matt building a bunch of Nike clubs for me. I got a bunch of Callaway clubs he's building. How the fuck did you do that? Yeah, you better get on it. But he sent me this shit, and this is he did this all through AI. I sent him a bunch of my logos, like and then like one year, one year with the homies, Scotty, anniversary gives. Like he did all this from that. Yep, it's impressive, it's super impressive. I have no idea. Like, I've been on there and I'm like, oh yeah, make me this logo golf based. But like crazy. Which one do you guys like the most and mess around with it? But which one do you guys like the most? This one?

Dan 24:39

Hang on, let me put them full screen.

Joe 24:43

Yeah, this one.

Matt 24:44

Heat all night. I don't like heat all night. Okay, this one I like one year with the homies. Okay, and this one. I think you sent me three.

Joe 24:54

I like the middle one, the middle one. This one, yeah, so good. Yes, yeah, that one's really good.

Dan 25:01

And it's got all your dice, man, your slot man. It's got everybody in.

Joe 25:04

Yeah, I sent them all my logos and like just crazy, bro. Dude, AI is crazy.

Matt 25:13

And what's was wild is now on TikTok, if you just search uh AI prompts for Gemini or AI prompts for Chat PGP Chat GPT. Well, yeah, of course. Oh my god, that's how I did the our freaking peaky blinders looking pictures.

Dan 25:33

Oh yeah. Thing about AI though is like they're not even close to being accurate. Sometimes it's like like the peaky blinders one. There's only like one picture that looks like any of us, and that's Matt's picture.

Matt 25:50

No, I I mean, I think if you look, if you look, you can see in everybody else.

Dan 25:59

Which is creepy.

Matt 26:01

I mean, that looks like Joe.

Joe 26:05

Yeah, Katie said really. You know what when when you posted that picture and I shared it? No, no, no. When when you posted that picture and I shared it, Katie said Dan looks good. You don't look like you. That's what you told me.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

And I think Dan looks the most like I like, I like improved.

Joe 26:24

Yeah, you guys got uglier. Yeah, I got more handsome. Dan also looks like 15 years older, too.

Matt 26:32

But the the glasses on Joe is what makes Joe look like Joe.

Dan 26:36

You know, just Matt, you look like you.

Matt 26:38

Yeah, I look like me.

Joe 26:39

You look very similar, but looks very like teen crumpets.

Dan 26:44

Jeremy looks like Jeremy looks like he never stopped drinking, Jameson.

SPEAKER_03 26:48

Yeah, Jeremy looks like he just got done murdering somebody in a couple. I'm the cleanup guy.

Dan 26:54

He's yeah, he's definitely the skinnier version of Jeremy, but he also looks like the alcoholic skinnier version.

Using AI For Golf Graphics

Matt 27:00

Yeah, thickly looking. That's so funny. I found another picture. Dan, you're gonna appreciate this one. Let me bring this back up. Uh-oh. No, you'll you'll like this one because it's impressive. Uh what you used to look like compared to what you look like now. Oh shit.

Dan 27:19

Oh shit. Yeah, have you seen this? Look at that face. Look how fucking round my face is.

Matt 27:25

Yeah, that's when uh that's right.

Dan 27:31

Oh, that's right.

Matt 27:32

I put you on the mill carton.

unknown 27:34

That's right.

Dan 27:41

That was before AI, dude. You should the picture where we're all at um Tory Pines is oh yeah. One where you could see how big all of us were. Yeah, yep. Matt, you were like oh, I was round like 40 or 50 heavier. Jeremy is probably leaving. We were all round. Trey was over probably 100 pounds heavier then. He's almost lost 100 pounds. I know it's not it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 28:16

It is crazy.

Matt 28:19

We listed.

Joe 28:22

Also, when do you think you can get those clubs done?

Matt 28:25

I'm gonna try and knock them out in the morning.

Joe 28:28

You don't have to you don't have to knock them all out in the morning.

Matt 28:31

I got one wedge done today, but I got interrupted so many times today with stupid shit going on.

Joe 28:37

I'm just I'm waiting for my barrel head covers. That's what I'm trying to wait for before I do it. So they haven't shipped yet.

Matt 28:45

I just gotta uh I was gonna I had the epoxy out today and I'm like, oh, and so I poured some and then I did a bunch of things and and I grabbed the first wedge and I went, oh fuck, I didn't clean out the the shaft. Grab the next one, oh fuck, I didn't clean out the shaft. Oh fuck, I you know I just separated everything, I didn't prep anything. So I just gotta clean out all the epoxy from the shafts and I'll be able to put them all together. Shouldn't take too long. Good.

Joe 29:06

I mean it'll take a while, but two weeks, two weeks. Yeah, you got three weeks, maybe three weeks.

Matt 29:13

Okay, you don't need it by Thursday?

Joe 29:15

No, uh no, no, no. Okay, I'm gonna do it. I'm waiting for the the barrel head covers I ordered, and they haven't shipped them from China yet.

Matt 29:25

So I thought you wanted it for your 4-4 show.

Joe 29:28

They're in the middle of the street of the news. No, I'm gonna do the master's show Thursday. Okay, and then oh yeah, no, I'll be able to knock it out then.

Dan 29:39

Did you order that green corduroy ghost tree head cover, Joe?

Joe 29:42

I did not know, but hey, stealing, bro. Stealing, stealing ideas. I could be the merch czar from Bandon.

Dan 29:54

Merch czar.

Joe 29:55

Should work for Dormy shop. Yeah, hey, dormy hit me up, Graybull hit me up, uh Valley Neal hit me up, Brodeo Dunes. I got you. We're coming out there anyway. Might as well stop and preview play and then you know, be on our way.

SPEAKER_03 30:14

Leave a review on Grassy.

Joe 30:16

Yeah, and leave a review on glassy, grassy.

Matt 30:20

Let's see if I added any people since then. I can't believe how many people don't fill out finish their stuff.

SPEAKER_03 30:31

Dan, do you have any Scotty mallets left? Besides the one you're you well, actually, no, you sold the one you were using.

Dan 30:38

I sold all my Scotties, yeah.

Joe 30:40

I did win a Spider Z T the other night on Scout show. I haven't won a buyer's in forever. Spent 10 bucks on a spider ZT. Yeah. He was I I was walking up the stairs and I was watching a show, and he does this thing now where he's like, if you're watching and he knows you're there, he'll like, tell me you're still here, I'll rip your sticker. I'll rip it. If he has your sticker, he'll rip it. And I was walking up the stairs, and like I had a drink and it swiped out of a show, and then somebody tagged me, and I was trying to get back in. He's like, I'm still here. He's like, Oh, almost ripped that chasing daylight podcast sticker every Tuesday night, every Tuesday night. Scott's awesome, though. That's funny. Yeah.

Dan 31:34

Oh lordy. I haven't been on whatnot in a long time.

Joe 31:40

I know. I I haven't been on in like two weeks either.

Dan 31:44

I jump on occasionally, but it's been like three or four months since I even looked at it.

Matt 31:48

Yeah, I'll pop on when Take Five comes on just to see what he's talking about.

Joe 31:53

Honestly, it's gotten kind of boring. It really has kind of gotten boring. There's so many people nowadays, too. Like, there's too many people.

Whatnot Burnout And Seller Drama

Matt 32:01

There's so many people in the golf. I mean, you go on like uh like nine at 11 o'clock, there'll be 30 people selling golf stuff, you know. Um, but like I was like, wasn't I was talking to you, Joe, when you sold a Garson grip for like 35? Somebody bought it for like 35. Uh no, no, uh Papa Bear sold one for 48. Yeah, 48. And I'm like, I get supporting people, but why when you can get it for$25?

Joe 32:33

Why spend$48? By using code Daylight 15. Yeah, even cheaper.

Matt 32:39

Yeah, I just that I get supporting people, but don't I don't think supporting stupidly is sustainable. And I think that's what a lot of a lot of the whatnot sellers.

Joe 32:51

A lot of people have left too. I think a lot of people have left, like, yeah, because they feel like they've gotten taken advantage of in certain situations. Like, I don't know, and and this is that whole conversation that I talked to you about. Like, I could have taken advantage of people with deals I could have made, and you know what I mean? Like, I I go when I can go, and I I try and only do cool shit that I would approve of of you know, like I talked to you guys, like I could have bought all those fucking those shitty ass irons, you know what I mean? Yeah, remember all those omni raiders? Yeah, yeah, that guy that had the garage. Yeah, I could have bought I could have bought all that stuff and took an advantage of people, and I did not. Um, you know, you get caught up in the hype, and then that one fucking guy. I'm not gonna say his name, but he he was selling him, and it just like made me angry too. So I'm glad I didn't do it. That he bought him and was selling them, yeah, and he made a bunch of money off of it too. And he's still making a bunch of money off other shit too, you know. Yeah, the corny boy. Um, I'm st he's still making a bunch of money because that's how he paved his way as well. And uh I I can't watch him anymore.

Matt 34:09

I just can't so it happened. Yeah, did you ever find out what happened with that guy that was talking shit about Take Five?

Joe 34:22

And he so supposedly uh he Bush would love this so much. Um but no, he he talked shit, and then uh the dude that was talking shit about Take Five, they actually got on a call, and then the dude started calling out sellers that um were telling him all the misinformation. So what misinformation? I don't know, I don't know all about it, but they got on a call, so I don't think they changing. Things are changing. I don't know all the intricacies because I've been gone for two weeks, too. It's like fucking ice exactly, it's like it doesn't have to be that way, but you know, there's a lot of drama because people sell shitty shit, they take advantage of people, and people don't like that, and uh you know they want to say called out for doing that exactly, exactly, and there's people with pasts. Man, I I know we're behind a paywall, but yeah, I know a lot about it, but I'm not gonna speak on it because no, no, you don't have to, yeah. Speak what you can if you can. No, yeah, yeah. I mean, nobody likes buying teas for uh 30 bucks, right? And then people exactly, yeah. I got an insider source, and uh just yawn with he's the homie, so we can't uh he might be uh uh subscriber, potentially to the after shows.

Matt 36:15

Did you see uh Mike Herrera's car got he got carjacked?

SPEAKER_03 36:20

I just saw him in the store at the golf store before that happened.

Matt 36:25

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_03 36:26

He was there chatting up with KD and those guys, yeah. And then later it's like his car brought broken into and all the clubs and track man and whatever got stolen. Yes, GC quad and all his clubs. Oh shit. He got his clubs, but then got his clubs back.

Matt 36:41

Yeah, somebody came in trying to trade him in and scales scales recognized him. Scales recognized the clubs. Jeez, but still the quad's still got I mean, that's fucking 20 grand, dude. That's those things aren't cheap. So did scales call him out? Scales caught this the guys were trying to trade him in, and he knew him. He knew that no, these aren't these aren't average Joe clubs.

Stolen Clubs And Gear Safety

SPEAKER_03 37:08

Yeah, where does where does he work at? Golf Galaxy the one in Henderson, Charleston, no, Charleston, Summerland, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

Charlotte scales, yeah.

Dan 37:20

I think it was a girl. I think he said it was a girl that came in and tried to sell him. No shit. But maybe I'm wrong, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:26

Wow, that's crazy.

Matt 37:27

Wow, they they end up catching them or just I don't know. I haven't talked, I haven't chatted him up. I was gonna see if he wanted to come on the show and talk about it, but I figured we'd wait and see what's going on. Jeez, I give him shit all the time because he'll post it'll be at the range at Angel Park, and the next post he's at Shadow Creek.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

Like you go from hacks to Shadow Creek, and he laughs.

Dan 37:53

Just warm up at warm up at Angel Park Range.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

Yeah.

Dan 37:58

He caddies out at Shadow?

Matt 38:00

Yeah. I saw him in a in a in an over who does my carrera.

SPEAKER_03 38:05

Oh, Mike does. Okay, I thought you were talking about scales. Oh, no, no, no. No, my carrera.

Matt 38:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:11

Wow, okay. Crazy.

Matt 38:15

Crazy story. Get fucking carjacked and all your shit gets stolen from your fucking car. Uh he got carjacked, like carjack, carjacked, or he got his car stolen. We said he got his car stolen, and then another comment was my car got jacked, so I don't know if it was he was there when it happened or came out and it got happened.

Dan 38:33

Yeah, because carjack, I'm thinking like somebody came up to him, guns pointing, and was like, get the fuck out of the car.

Matt 38:40

Yeah, we just saw you at the golf. I mean, that's that's some scary shit, you know. You never know who's watching you where you're at. And if you got a track full of fucking nice gear and you got a GC quad, you know, I mean, it's sketchy as hell. I have my shit stolen.

Dan 38:57

I get them out to my car and my fucking trunk of my trunk of my car is just not locked, but just down, but it's like a jar. Open it up, fucking clubs are gone. Like, fuck. Like two days later, I get a call from my apartment complex. One of the one of the maintenance workers there was um found them behind the fucking trash can. Somebody like didn't even sell them, they just like went to threw my fucking clubs away. And they found them behind the trash can. And somebody and somebody knew that they were mine, like one of the maintenance guys, like, I think those are the fucking those guys that are in this thing because they're all golfers, and sure enough, they're my clubs.

Joe 39:37

Oh, every single one when uh you get uh Dan came. Dan was at our house, and we were all going somewhere. I can't remember.

Matt 39:45

Yeah, we were picking you up to go to the airport to go to uh Bandon, I think it was and fucking all the car game.

Joe 39:51

Oh, yeah, that's right. Have you been out here? Your doors are open. I was like, No, I have not been out here and shit thrown all over the place.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

Everybody's car, the whole neighborhood was open.

Joe 40:05

Yeah, that I mean, I don't keep my clubs in the car no more. Also, because the heat will separate your ferrule from your head, you know what I mean? That's especially out here. Yeah, that yeah, you feel violated. I hate when I have to go. Dan goes, do you feel violated? I was like, Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

Absolutely.

Matt 40:28

I hate when we're like leaving the golf course after fitting and having all the stuff in the car. If I gotta stop and get gas, I'm like, I fucking hate it. I'm like, no, just get me to the garage, please. Quick.

Joe 40:39

Make sure it's like beep beep beep beep beep. Double tap.

Premium Thanks And Brand Discounts

Matt 40:46

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