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382: Las Vegas Golf Prices, Matt's NY Trip, & US Open Qualifying

Mathew Wangrycht & Joe Keith | Golf News Hosts Episode 382

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Welcome back to episode 382 of the Chasing Daylight Podcast! We kick things off by celebrating the explosive growth of the Vegas sports scene, but quickly pivot to a harsh reality: local golf is getting incredibly expensive, and course conditions are taking a hit. Between skyrocketing green fees that forced us to move the VGN Finals to Legacy and new housing developments squeezing out classic layouts, we air out some serious frustrations this week. 

Plus, Matt recaps his wild subway encounters in New York, we preview our upcoming VGN major at Boulder Creek in 110-degree heat, and we dive deep into the brutal grind of US Open qualifiers. 

Episode Highlights:

  • Contrasting the Las Vegas sports boom with the rising cost and declining conditions of local golf courses. 
  • The VGN Finals are officially moving to Legacy Golf Club after extreme rate hikes at Revere. 
  • Matt recounts his chaotic New York trip, rained-out Yankee games, and meeting a Bruins fan in a sweltering subway. 
  • Testing out the new high-grip, carbon-insole golf shoes from Parlinks. 
  • The story behind Matt's "lucky" 425-yard, cart-path-assisted drive at Boulder Creek. 
  • Surviving the upcoming 110-degree VGN major at Boulder Creek and blazing fast greens. 
  • The tragedy of new housing developments ruining the layout at Desert Hawk. 
  • Reminiscing about Primm Valley Golf and the world's slowest hot dog vendor. 
  • Breaking down the US Open qualifying format and the heartbreak of a player losing their spot by picking up a marker. 
  • Discussing LAB Putters' new VZN.1i model and custom CDP Garsen Grips arriving soon. 
  • Announcing our new $1.99 YouTube Memberships for exclusive, unfiltered after-shows. 

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Intro & Vegas Sports Boom

Matt

Challenge accepted Mike from Beautiful Golf Courses, who said there was no way in hell we would be on the air by eight o'clock. Tate to one. We made it. Barely. Now, had the Knights done something and played a little bit better hockey and tied that game up, or not let it that Gorse goal score, we would not be here. So welcome to the Chasing Daylight Podcast. This is what episode are we on? 382.

Dan

We're on 382. Just flying by.

Matt

Flying by. We're a little bummed out right now because the uh the knights just lost. Uh game four. It's now tied up 2-2. They head back to North Carolina on Thursday. Quick turnaround on the fly home. That's good because the game after that, which we'll have to have, is now on Sunday. So this weekend's golf tournament will not get delayed, or we'll be able to watch the game for those who care. I know not everybody watching or listening is a Knights fan, but we are, so we talk about him. Uh, so the the headline for this week's show. By the way, we're missing Joe. He's run a little bit behind. He has some fatherly duties he had to uh take care of before hopping on. Uh, but Dan's here, Jeremy's here, I'm here, Joe will be here in a few. Uh, but with all the shit that's going on in Vegas right now, uh, we've got the the A's are in town playing at uh the ballpark in Summerland. Dan and I are going to a game Friday night. Uh the Knights are going crazy. The the Aces have won three championships since moving to the town. Uh, we have two NASCAR races. We have an F1 race. Uh UFC, I mean, it's not as dominant as it was, you know, a few years ago, as far as in Vegas. It's kind of worldwide. T Lou, he'll be here, he'll be here in a few. He's coming. And uh then we have uh the basketball team is in the works for the NBA coming here. We just got a women's hockey league professional team. We have the Henderson Silver Knights, the Knights uh double A or minor league affiliate. We have uh the flat or the Neon, what are they called? The lights, the lights of the soccer team. Um there's there's stuff coming like crazy, and then the A's are gonna be here in a few years. We have some of the best restaurants in the world spread out across the strip, and a lot of restaurants that are really good throughout the valley that was not like it is now, you know, 15-20 years ago. Uh incredible hotels. Uh, this is you know, it is an entertainment capital of the world. Um, F1 has really brought a big audience to this city that everybody knows about Vegas, you know, but uh you know people now want to come here because the F1 race and the town is going nuts. Except for golf.

Vegas Golf is Getting Too Expensive

Matt

Yeah. I was gonna bring it back. It took a little while, but I was gonna bring it back. Uh we're losing golf courses, and I had a very upsetting thing happen to me today. Uh trying to finalize the contract with what I used to call my home course, Revere. But I've I feel jaded, you know, I feel smitten. I I just they absolutely raked us over the coals uh at the rate they wanted us to pay to play there in November. And I get it. I get it, I understand, but it doesn't mean I have to like it. And I don't. It's it's a it sucks, you know. Um thankfully, their sister course, uh uh Legacy stepped up, and so we will now be hosting the VGN Finals uh two-day event at Legacy. Yeah. Oh, I was texting Jeremy that, right? I wasn't that wasn't in the I'm sorry, that wasn't in the group chat.

Dan

That was that was just Cat with Jeremy. That was just pretty information. It's breaking news here on the podcast.

SPEAKER_02

That's not it.

Matt

What up, T Dog? Wrong button. Where's my breaking news button? Anyways, uh yeah, so yeah, they have significantly increased their prices. Um I got the email, I was like, are you shitting me? Is this real? This this can't be real. Uh it's gotta be a joke. I'm being punked. Um yeah. Kyle's right, worry we're not gonna have affordable golf. We don't have affordable golf now. I mean, it's it's it's tough out there. It's really tough out there to find. Thankfully, you know, we have a lot of friends and we know a lot of people, and so we can get decent rates at at different you know courses across town, and and you know, we've we've worked that angle put the time in to get that, and we're very grateful for that. Um, if that wasn't the case, man, I don't know how much we'd be playing. You know, I I'm sure something we'd be doing more travel because it's it's getting ridiculous. Yeah, uh it broke my heart. I I wanted to hold the finals at at Revere. I I love playing there in the winter time. Uh it's it's a lot of fun. Uh Lexington is always in great shape. Um, but lately, you know, that I've been hearing, I haven't played it in a while because I've we've been working and traveling and and uh excuse my I have airplane subway New York street throat going on right now. Um so uh oh tornado siren just went off. Probably won't be here for much of the show. Have a good show, boys. Hey, be safe, bro. Be safe, and I hope that's not just because Joe's not here.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, there he is. Oh, there he is. There's Joe. What the fuck is going on around here? What is going on around here?

Joe

Here comes Joe. Here comes what's going on around here's coming in. Give me five, ten minutes, and I'm getting text messages that you guys started without me.

Matt

What the fuck? What's going on? What are we doing? What's going on?

Joe

I'm I'm Joe You know the show until you get here. Hey, eight o'clock.

Matt

Eight o'clock. Mike, Mike told me 7 p.m.

Joe

Y'all late. Everybody's late. Start at 7 p.m. Pacific Center Times on Tuesdays.

Matt

Mike told me there was no way in hell we were getting on by eight. And so I said challenge accepted and made it.

Joe

And we lost, so yeah, there we go. I had to give something away for free on whatnot. I was planning on this whole spiel about us eating pie. And uh we ate it. Hair pie.

Matt

Yeah. I'm here now. I'm here now. All right. Damon said Tornado Siren just went off, Joe, so you want to send him a message and and wish him well. Uh have any of you all played Coyote Moon by Havasu?

Dan

I played Coyote Moon up by Tahoe. Up by Havasu. Up in Truckee. That Coyote Moon is sick.

Matt

Have not. Dan apparently has though.

Dan

Truckee's got some great golf. If you go up into the Tahoe area, Edgewood, and just go a little bit north of that. Yeah, yeah. T Thiel, I played there. Coyote Moon's dope. What's the uh Grizzly Mountain? Grizzly Ranch. Yep, Grizzly Ranch. Then you have Grace Crossing and Old Greenwood.

Matt

Going next week.

Dan

Nice.

Matt

Enjoy.

Dan

Yeah. Good time to get some elevation. If you can make it go up to Grizzly Ranch and play that if you can. That's that's sick. But Coyote Moon is dope.

Matt

Yeah, Joe. So uh you didn't hear, and I I did not hear, I know that.

Joe

Yeah.

Matt

I was texting

VGN Finals Moving to Legacy

Matt

Jeremy um and I thought I was in the group chat, but it I it wasn't. Um the finals at Revere got canceled. Um holy moly. It's been moved to legacy. Um because I was trying to lock in the the finalizing of the contract today, and and uh what they wanted per player each day was astronomical.

unknown

Wow.

Matt

Wow, yeah, golf's getting this golf is expensive, guys. So I I I spent the first few minutes of the intro uh telling everybody how Vegas is the entertainment capital of the world. We've had all this stuff going on, all new sports teams, all new events, crazy concerts, venues, the sphere, you name it. But golf is like declining so fast. Conditions across some of the local courses is going to shit. Um the rates are going through the roof for what is, in my opinion, very inadequate golf compared to what you're paying.

Jeremy

You know, I think the the three main courses that we generally play, which I won't name and feel, are really the best values there are here.

Matt

Absolutely Bally High, Desert Pines, and North Las Vegas Part 3 are stunners. Steel.

Joe

I mean, I guess I mean so so I went, so I was at work today, and um I I think he might be a new listener of the podcast, Aaron. Shout out United Rentals. He took me and a couple of my co-workers um to go eat at Pizza Rock for lunch. Uh he's I saw him press that subscribe button. So if you're listening, Aaron, thank you. Um but no, he he's he he started playing golf a year ago, and he's geeked about it, right? And you know, when I started playing golf, it's almost 10 years ago now, which is crazy. I mean, just the difference in green fees is astronomical, and the con, like you say, Matt, the conditions are definitely different, you know. It's I mean, look at Wild Horse, you know, Darden did everything he could over at Wildhorse, yeah. And and there was times when it was fucking great, it was pristine, and now it's just kind of you know, beat. And you know, a lot of courses aren't putting in the love and they're raking in all this money because they're catching all this money from green fees, but yeah, it's it's a different time.

Matt

It's it's sad, it sucks, you know. It and I was telling everybody, you know, we're fortunate that we know people at some places and and have friends that have memberships and card holders, and and we get to play some pretty awesome golf courses at not rack rated, yeah. Um, but we were rack rated at my i said what is formerly my home course. I'm gonna have to change that.

Jeremy

That was extremely excessive. I mean, I know we're not gonna mention it, but no, that was that was shocking.

Matt

I've I've voted one time higher than that, and that was at Rio Seco.

Joe

So what was it?

Matt

Yeah, you can't say that for off the air, yeah.

Joe

It was six figures, one mid and I was talking to them too, and they're like, Have you played Win? I said, Yes, you know, have you where where what's your favorite?

Matt

Did you let them know you've played Beth Page black as well?

Joe

I did not know it was local, it was a local topic.

Matt

Oh, okay.

Joe

Um, because one of the guys that we were at lunch with works over at the Lake Las Vegas, and he works right on Reflection Bay, and we were talking about golf and all that, but yeah, it's just it's tough, dude. I don't know how I used to like the the when I used to play like two times a week or once a week, like if the prices were that when back then, like I don't even know if I could have could have done it, you know, it's just crazy.

Matt

And something that we experienced this in here because I was in New York the last four days over the weekend, and service fees. Service fees are starting to be the new tax that they're just raping you on, and they're like, fuck it, let's just we'll we'll instead of making it a $19 burger, we'll make it a $15 burger and put a five-dollar service fee on there. You know, it's it's oh it's an affordable burger, but I'm sorry, the the service fees, uh you know, we can't we can't control the service fees.

Joe

Two is really correct on that, too.

Matt

It's it's ridiculous. $18 for a large bucket of balls that have been on the golf course for five years.

Jeremy

Yeah, yep, yeah, you know, it's wild. It's wild. That was uh what green fees used to be. Yeah, a summer afternoon.

Joe

It's it's it's getting pretty ridiculous.

Matt

It's getting pretty much it's making me wonder about my choices of living in Vegas, is you know, all the things that I love about this city and how great it's become. But am I gonna be able to golf here in five years?

Jeremy

You know, am I gonna be able to I think it's like that everywhere though? Like I was talking, my dad, you know, he he's retired, but he works up at the golf course there, and it was like he was saying that I think it was like 60 or 70 bucks for a round, which there is like double what it used to be when I remember. Used to be 35 bucks with a cart weekend, now it's 60, 70, 75 bucks, so it's everywhere.

Matt

I don't know. My my favorite course in Nebraska, Wild Rivers, was only 50.

Jeremy

Yeah, that's true. But that place used to be probably called the rivers.

Joe

Oh, yeah, you gotta take a flight and drive about an hour and a half to get to that one, though. Yep, yeah, I think it all works out pretty evenly.

Matt

Uh yeah, no, it's it's it's a sad state.

Dan

It's a sad state, but it's tough right now, for sure.

Matt

You know, what are you gonna do? We we love this game. It's why I I have a putting green in the backyard and a net to hit into.

Joe

And yeah, and if you want a putting green nowadays, there's a net in your backyard, it's gonna cost you more than it did.

Matt

Yeah, it's oh god, I can imagine.

Joe

Oh my my uh my dad and my brother uh got their backyards redone, and I was like, How much did you pay? And I'm like, I did that back in like 2020, it was like three G's, it's like eight times now, you know, it's just crazy. It's but everything's more expensive. There is gonna be there's gonna be a breaking point.

Matt

There's gonna be well, I don't I don't know if there is because with if if the NBA does come here, which it probably is.

Joe

I mean, then they're gonna be fighting like in the streets of New York, New York.

Matt

Yeah,

Matt's Chaotic New York Trip

Matt

just that shit.

Joe

Oh my god, you got out, you got out just in time. Oh, dude, we were dude. Good thing you didn't have your Spurs jerseys there.

Matt

I'm telling you, we were we were there because governor ball was going on, the Knicks were in the playoffs, the Yankees and Red Sox were in town, and I'm like, holy next week, World Cup is gonna be there, and I'm like, Holy shit, Knicks in the finals and World Cup. That city is gonna do you see that Dennis Robbins jersey that tone that that David Robinson jersey knocked that fool out that guy wearing the Tim Duncan jersey got jumped, and I'm like, and he's like trying to fight back, and I'm like, dude, run, run, and I'm like, don't throw that. Oh shit, he fell down.

Joe

He's done. I mean, if do people smash in trees, though, like that was that was me, right? Like, I get it. You you're not a fan of are you smashing trees? No, no, you're not a fan of you're not a fan of the Spurs. Like, I understand that's on your city. I don't understand just fucking squashing trees that give your city oxygen. That I mean at least go to San Francisco. I don't agree on do it, yeah. Yeah, looking like Philadelphia out there, New York.

Matt

Yeah, but look the NBA coming. It's I mean, it's it's gonna happen. We we we have too many major league teams here now for not to have it. The MLS proposal for that stadium down on star looks insane. And if that happens, that's just gonna be even more people. Yeah, there you look at the at Las Vegas Boulevard from Star South, that's just gonna be stacked condos all the way to Prim. 100. Yep, which prim got saved by terribles. Did you hear that? I saw that today. Hotel renovations, updates, food and beverage updates, the lotto store sticking around.

Joe

Shout out to terrible herbs, go get the golf course legend, just bring back lakes. Yeah, they just need lakes, yeah.

Matt

Turn desert into an RV park and make it a stay and play package. Just go to the van and play golf for a week. Yeah, I mean, dude, it's golf because yeah, I love Vegas, dude. It's my home, Joe and I, you know, we're both born and raised, been our whole lives. This is my home, but it's just it's it's plus the water's gone.

SPEAKER_03

The water's gone, there's no more water.

Matt

There's a there's a really big separation between Vegas and the Vegas local community, and you know, 30 years ago that wasn't the case, it was just the locals who worked in the industry trying to support you know the people that come here, and it's really turned in, I mean, Summerlin, Henderson, you know, even North Las Vegas and out Cadence and Sky Canyon, all that stuff has really grown the community feel here, and so there's a lot to do outside of the strip for the locals, which before there wasn't always, you know, you had a station casino here, a PT's pub there. It wasn't really you know like it is now, but we have a lot of options now, and it just sucks that one of our really great options 10 years ago, golf, is not a great option anymore.

Joe

Yeah, we used to play Chimera for $25.

Matt

Yeah, Joe did a did a poll where he was like, Where's the better golf? It's here, here, here, here, and Vegas was one of them. I couldn't even vote for Vegas, you know, yeah. I'm like I I recommend I can recommend three places right now. Yeah, dude, the rankings are gonna be brutal this year. They are, they really are. They're gonna be brutal because I I'm like about to take off the good guy cap and go, all right. Uh let's let's talk some honesty.

Joe

You're gonna let them hear it. You're gonna let him hear it.

Matt

I'm gonna let them hear it, guys.

Joe

Also, don't forget, we're gonna give away some at the end of the show. Did you even mention a giveaway at the end of the show?

Matt

No, no, didn't mention a getaway. I was waiting for you.

Joe

We're waiting for you, Joe. What the hell is going on around here? We're gonna give away something. All you gotta do is comment. We're gonna give away something, Garson. US Open is not this week, it's next week. Nope, next week. So we got something special next week, too. So make sure you tune in nice.

Matt

You can show it. Do you have it in the room there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Show it off. We got it. Whip it out, Joe.

Joe

There it is. The one of 200 Garson US Open non-tapered quad tour banger, the 2026 US Open release from Garson. Shout out, Garson. You make sure you're using code Daylight15 at checkout. Save yourself some money. Shout out, Garson, as always. But this will be given away next week, so make sure you tune in next week. And tonight we'll give away something else. We're gonna give away we'll just pull it out right now. We'll just do this. Oh we haven't given away a long boy in a long time.

Matt

Garson Max.

Joe

Garson Max 15 or 17 inch.

Dan

Is that a is that all it's kind of in Kane's colors, though, so it's a good thing you're giving it away.

Joe

Yeah, ooh, yeah. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, should we get rid of it get rid of that?

Dan

Yeah, get rid of it. No, no, no, no, no. Don't change it.

Joe

This is gonna be in the giveaway at the end of the day. At the end of the show, all you gotta do is leave a comment, hang out, be here at the end. I don't know where that Garson banner is, but somebody's slacking so hard right now. Well, I forgot. Use code daylight 15 and check out.

Matt

All right, the giveaway is running now. So if you you commented the full. Oh, he didn't even he didn't even run it. Holy, it's going, it's going, we're going.

Joe

We're good. If you left a comment before, you leave another comment. Yeah, comment again, comment again, stick around and then like it, and then like it, and subscribe. What up, Nori? Nori's over there in the the armpit over there. He's over there in South Beach over there. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Cooking up. Joe said he liked the canes last night. I uh no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Joe

He's taking it out of context.

Matt

I I gotta get Joe out of here for that.

Joe

No, the canes, the canes are a great hockey team. I like the canes more than I like other teams, they're a great hockey team. They got William Carrier over there. I'm saying people hate on all these teams. Like, you can still enjoy a great hockey team without a fantastic series. Putting a jersey in front of your store if you're in South Carolina and let people walk in over the Knights jersey. Super classy by South Carolina. Did you see that?

Matt

Well, I mean, the Rebels did it when we were playing Duke way back in the day. Yeah, I mean, I get it, right?

Joe

Like, yeah, I mean, dude, they're a great hockey team. I mean, I wasn't mentioning. I'm not a Keynes fan. I'm not a Keynes fan, but Keynes jersey, but and they're showing up. I don't own no Canes jerseys.

SPEAKER_00

Tornado warning over, payments back.

Joe

Uh no, I said I said I like the Canes as a hockey team. I don't like them right now, though, is what I said.

unknown

Yeah.

Joe

And I think that's fair. And you know, everybody wants to hate on everybody, i.e., the fucking Nick Spurs New York fist fights, you know, like you don't have to hate on people. And so we went.

Matt

We attempted to go to a Yankee game. Uh, it was Yankees versus the Red Sox in Yankee Stadium, had some you know, good seats. I I was surprised at how good the seats were. I thought being up that high, we were gonna have shitty views, but it was a fantastic view. And uh it got rained out. Um, second time in my life trying to go see a Yankee game in New York, and it got rained out. Um, so everybody is leaving the stadium. It's raining outside, so everybody's trying to get under the train. And the train, you know, you swipe your phone, you go in, and there's this small room that maybe holds 200 people that leads upstairs to the tracks. Well, there's 20,000 people trying to get on the southbound train, and we were like stuck like sardines, just you know, no movement, trains were delayed, it was shit weather, and so it's humid as fuck because it's raining, and we're all trapped in this room, and I'm just I'm just ripping sweat, right? And I'm like, well, at least I could at least I can watch hell. Oh, Joe would have been he'd have been praying, he'd been praying, you know, Jesus, come save me now. I can't do this.

SPEAKER_06

Um just said that. There's a chance, no chance.

Matt

Um no, he would have pulled a bean and cheese from his pocket. Exactly. Uh so this guy standing next to me. I said, Well, at least I'll try and watch the hockey game, you know, since the hockey game is on. So I pull up my phone and this guy leans over and he's like, Hey, you mind if I lean over? I'm like, no, dude, go ahead. And he's wearing a Boston Bruins jersey, right? Hockey jersey. And I'm like, Oh, I'm in a t-shirt and shorts, and I'm sweating my balls off. You're in jeans and a hockey sweater. Cap off to you, sir. You know, but he was like, um, he goes, Who are you rooting for? I said, I'm I I live in Vegas. He's like, Oh, he goes, he goes, You guys got a hell of a team, you know, and blah blah blah. And and we had this like you know, 10-minute conversation about hockey, and you know, because Cassidy mean though, and it was it was a great conversation, and it was he had admiration for the Knights, their front office, and how they handle things because they're a no bullshit team. And it's like, wow, you're the one person that I've talked to in this state that actually has a decent opinion. And he wasn't from New York, so that's awesome. Yeah, it was it was good times.

Joe

It's the same thing. I don't know if you saw my comment. Let me find it. Um, but the uh looper talk podcast, that dude has some strong opinions.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Joe

I know we've shared some of them, and I was like, hey, dude, you have an opinion, right? We've gotten away from disagreeing, and everybody's pissed at you if you disagree with them, and like that's the thing, everybody can have an opinion, dog. Everybody can have you don't have to, you don't have to ruin their life or hate on them because they have an opinion. We don't hate on Joe for loving desert pines, yeah, exactly. But I hate in I hate on them for not loving desert pines. So it only it only works one way, guys. One way of worse.

Matt

Uh T says, I feel like those situations you don't want to be a tourist, those locals are gonna eat you alive trying to push through. I was telling, I was telling Jeremy yesterday, I met some new characters in New York on the street, like characters I hadn't seen before because you meet a lot of characters collecting Pokemon out there. You meet a lot of characters because it is so diverse, and there's so many people. You can run into a new character every time you run turn around the corner. Well, I ran into the guy whose facial expression was get the fuck out of my way, I'm not moving. And I saw that on his facial expression, you know, standoff, and it was like, Yes, I'm moving. Yep, go right ahead, sir. Yep, but his face is like he was wearing a sign. I'm not moving, get the fuck out of my way. It's like I'll go right ahead.

Joe

Yeah, yeah. It's yours, sir. Yeah, I would love, I would have loved to see the rider cup out there like that. Those interactions and how that worked out there. Oh that would have been crazy because New York is different, dude. And everybody's stacked on top of each other, like there's so many people.

Matt

The the what blows me away is how vast and how deep the subway is. I mean, it is deep. You get down there, you're like five flights underground, you know, and you're like, holy this is fucking bedrock that they drilled.

SPEAKER_05

Modern modern Marvel. Shout out Modern Marvels. What a show too.

Matt

It is insane, and how smooth it flows for being how fucked up it is with all those people. It's impressive. Yeah. Oh, so small. So small. Yeah, yeah.

Joe

It's a it's a such a cool city, though, too.

Matt

Oh, everyone's definitely. Yeah, well, and you know, we've been going there more frequently of late because Emma's there, and you know, I'm starting to get a better understanding of knowing how everything goes, and I'm not getting lost as I come out of the subway anymore. Because you know, yeah, you come out on 34th and Broadway, you're like, I have no idea where I am, you know, but I I know where to look now, and and yeah, it's it's fun. Get to go back too. We're gonna go back in in August.

Joe

Vic modern Marvels. That's how, bro. Yeah, go watch.

Matt

There's I'm sure there's a fantastic documentary on the New York subway system.

Joe

Because dude, Dan knows Dan watches a lot of documentaries, he knows probably not on the New York subway system.

Dan

All the all the routes drink the water. Yeah, I've never been, so I I have I can't contribute to this.

Joe

Last time we were in New York, I like was like, damn, these subways are crazy. And I go on YouTube and I'm like, how was the New York subway created? I watch like at least four documentaries.

Matt

You know, and some of the streets they have they have it's one-way traffic, and then they have one side of the road is traffic, and the other side of the road is like really wide bike lanes and walking, you know.

Joe

There you go, playing partner for Beth Page.

Matt

I know we're gonna be the end of August. I'm sorry.

unknown

Oh fuck.

Matt

But you know, Joe, the how they they have the streets that are some traffic, and then most of it's like a bike lane, you know, and they got the big colanders out there to keep people off the area where the cars are. So we're crossing the street, and there's a fire truck coming down the road, and we're crossing. I said, Oh, let's go. And so we go, but and then the fire truck wasn't going straight, it turned into the bike lanes and like just missed Erica. Like, just missed Erica.

Joe

You gotta be on your toes, bro. You gotta be on your toes, man. It's spatial, spatial awareness.

Matt

There is a you know, look left, look right, look left again, and you better look right one more time, too.

Joe

And you gotta feel it around you, too. You gotta feel you gotta you have that feel around you, especially with the the e-bikes and and those one-wheel thing.

Matt

Oh my god, those things fly.

Joe

All right, do I mean dude? I love watching course maps too on Instagram. Like, dude, that dude is in the city and he's a golfer, he and he's a nerd too, and he he gives all the the aspects of where to play and all this, but like I wish, I mean, I would have loved when I was like 19 if I could afford it just to go to New York for a year and just that's why I kept on telling my daughter. I'm like experience it, you know.

Matt

Live this shit up, you know. Yeah, absolutely enjoy the hell out of her. Yeah, yeah. So but she got her degree, she's sticking around to do two more years, and uh now she gets to now that she's done with what she's was going to school for now, she can go out and do auditions, and and uh so she's gonna be a busy kid this summer. So hopefully she can find herself a job, and uh when we go back in August, we can go see her perform. That'd be kind of cool. That'd be cool.

Dan

That'd be really cool.

Matt

Struggle though, man. Struggle. That's that is not an easy gig. That is not an easy job. They had the the guy who played, I think his name is Chris Jackson. For those theater people out there, please forgive me if that is not correct. But he played George Washington in Hamilton. Wrong. No, I'm kidding. I don't know. He's been on other things as well. Uh, very predominant theatrical musical guy. Uh, he was there, gave the commencement speech, and he had some great stories, so it was fun to listen to him talk.

Joe

Yeah, it's also if you're new here, you can leave a comment, win some Gars and Grips. This is not a theater podcast, this is a golf podcast. So please, if there's anything you want to talk about, New York golf-wise, too, we can talk about that or anything golf, but yeah, dude, New York is sick. I wish I would have lived there because there's so many amazing golf courses out there. Oh yeah, and and and the transit system, which is one thing I wish we had in Vegas. I mean, just taking it just taking a train, a 15-minute ride to go over to the Beth Page Black, like yeah, it's so cool. I'd love to train the desert lines theater. You're your theater kid.

Matt

Uh

New Shoes from Parlinks

Matt

all right, so on the golf side of things, couple things going on. Um, oh shit, I forgot to bring them out here. God damn it. Uh I got the those new shoes from Parlinks, and I wore them yesterday. Jeremy and I played with Steven Jackson yesterday out at Boulder Creek, got a little practice round in for the tournament this weekend. And uh I put them on and I was like, man, these are pretty freaking comfortable. They have a different kind of insole, it it has the like the nubs like the G4s do. Um, but it's it's got carbon in it, and it's very supportive. It was very comfortable, and they have a special tread that is it's three layers, it's like a little pyramid. And my god, does that thing grip the ground? I was blown away, super, super comfortable. Um, they have two versions. There is a water-resistant version that has mesh in it, breathes fantastic. Yesterday, a couple times the wind was moving out there yesterday, and uh got some of that airflow through that through that mesh. Wonderful, wonderful. And they also have a waterproof version that doesn't have the mesh, that's all leather, that's a lot more uh it's a little thicker. Um, so that's gonna be a band and shoe for sure. PNW shoe, band and shoe. But uh, I was chatting with Brian from Par Links today. Um, we're gonna hop on a phone call next week and discuss uh what he wants to talk about, and he's gonna come on the show. So he's gonna I gave him the option he can come on, do the live, and interact with everybody if they want, or you know, we can do the one-on-one interview like we've done in the past. So look for that coming up in a couple weeks. Um, but what did you hear from about these guys, Matt? Uh so Jeff Walk from Lower Scores Golf. God, I I hope I said that. Lower scores, I got his lower scores.

SPEAKER_00

Lower scores.

Matt

Yeah. He's uh he works for Gar, he works with Garsen. He he helps them with their marketing, and uh he is the one that also got me in touch with that interchangeable putter shaft. Um, so he got he's been doing some some videos uh with their stuff, and I was like, oh man. So I asked him what he thought, and he was like, it's it's legit. So so I reached out and said, uh, hey, you know, want to check him out. So we got a few pairs sent our way, and uh and I think I have him come on the show. So hell yeah.

Joe

But very lower scores is gonna come on.

Matt

No, Brian from Parlings.

Joe

Well, yeah, I know you're talking about that, but I think I think lower scores.

Matt

You need to get need to get Jeff on.

Joe

He needs, yeah, he needs to come on. He's a Garden guy, so he's a Garson guy, and he and he reps the Chase and Daylight podcast sticker in a lot of his videos, so and he's a company man, yeah.

Matt

He's he's he's a fitter for Callaway, so yeah.

Joe

I mean, I don't know anything about that, but I know he's cool, so he can come on the podcast anytime.

Matt

Don't know if this room's big enough for all of us. This guy and Bush is coming on. When hey, tell you what, you come on, I'll give you that bag of it.

Joe

Oh my god, you yo, he's gonna he'll never live that down. Don't say that shit, dude. He's gonna fucking hound me. Don't say that. Uh I did not say that, Bush. I did not say that, Bush. That was Matt. So you can hit him in the Instagram DMs, not me.

Matt

So I have no involvement. Something very dramatic happened yesterday on the golf

Matt's 425-Yard Drive

Matt

course. Uh-oh. I hit a 425-yard drive. Recorded. 420-yard drive. 425-yard drive. Jeremy was a witness. I posted the video earlier today.

Joe

Must have been firm and fast out there. Concrete is like that.

Matt

Yeah. So, you know, I said in the close, some some people may say there was a 20 mile-an-hour wind behind us. That's fine. Some people may say there was three or four, maybe even five bounces off the car path. That's fine. All I know is when I went up to my ball, it was 425 yards from where I hit it. It is in the fairway.

Jeremy

True. He had the literally the end of the fairway on 18 or 9 at El Dorado. El Dorado. Okay.

SPEAKER_06

Like the very end of the fairway.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Par five. Yes. What was your score?

Joe

Shout out to Arbubs with this kind of birdie. Who isn't a Garson guy? As long as he isn't a Garson guy. Rbubs.

Matt

Oh, great question.

Joe

Yeah.

Matt

Who isn't a Gar? Who isn't a Garson? Is it wait? It I don't know. We have to we have to we're gonna have to force Dan to play a Garson just to make him love it.

Joe

I mean, Dan's been playing since 1973. He still reps that old those old joints.

Matt

Um it's got a shammy one rap.

Joe

Yeah, yeah. Garson Garson needs to make a like a wrap pistol joint, you know.

Matt

The problem is I know it's possible now. Well, I I had never thought about that play, but the play is definitely a high draw off the right side. So the first bounce doesn't get all the spin and gets the second bounce, and then the spin comes in and turns it back into the fairway.

Joe

What he's saying, guys, is he got lucky and lucky as fuck.

Matt

He got super lucky. I thought it was in the dirt, you know, because we pull up and because Jeremy was playing a box back from us, and so we pull up, and Steven hit a great shot, and he was there. You know, he was we were up a box, so he's what maybe 10 yards in front of Jeremy. And so Jeremy hits a shot, and I look and I'm like, is that a ball up there? Like way up there.

Jeremy

There's there's no way that was Matt's ball.

Matt

Jeremy got up and he's like, I'm so disappointed to see Callaway and three orange dots on that golf ball.

Joe

Yeah, that was crazy, but yeah, it was windy. I wouldn't even look down there. Oh, it it was so that's a range ball, that's a range ball down there, and don't even just drop right here, drop right here.

Boulder Creek VGN Major Preview (110 Degrees)

Dan

There's no way did you guys see the the temperature for Saturday?

Matt

Well, when we were there, I looked and it said 104 with 18 to 20 mile an hour winds. And I went, hey, it's you know, it's 94 right now, so it's just gonna be 10 degrees hotter with the same wind. And then this morning's forecast, 109.

Dan

Uh 109. Yep.

Joe

Is there wind still?

Matt

I haven't checked.

Joe

Yeah, I'm not sure on the window. 109 on Saturday.

Matt

109 on Saturday.

Jeremy

Fuck. Yeah. We're starting early, so it'll only be like 105.

Matt

We do have a little elevation advantage too. You know, Boulder Creek is a little bit up above zero. Really? Uh not much, but a little bit.

unknown

Yeah.

Matt

Let's see, because you gotta go up the hill, you know, to get to it. That's true, and then down the hill to the valley. So the El Dorado Valley, that's like the Vegas Valley. Uh, let's see. What did the what did the weather say? But before I get to the weather, I will tell you this. Oh, shout out, Matty G.

Dan

Yeah, yeah. I seen that post. I and Nara.

Matt

Thanks so long, Matty G.

Joe

Going back up to the PNW. Yeah, he's gonna get all the band in tea times for us. Yeah, he is. Yep.

Matt

We'll have to hound him next time we roll through Portland.

Joe

Uh what is what yeah, and he's going to Portland instead of Eugene because he started in Eugene, went to Vegas, and now he's going to Portland. Rose City boy.

Matt

Yeah, it shows 110 in Henderson, but only eight miles an hour wind with 17 mile an hour wind gusts. So the ball is gonna go far. The ball is gonna go far, and the greens were fantastic. The greens Older Creek were they just had some NC2A national championships for the lower divisions. Oh my god, were they perfect?

Jeremy

They were faster than any green we played in Omaha, Nebraska.

Matt

Yeah, really hard and perfect. Perfect.

Jeremy

And we played El Dorado. I'm sure Coyote is as our hawk.

Matt

Yeah. Yep. So we got 75 players for Boulder Creek. It is our first major of the year. Tomorrow, uh, from Scratch Signs, the VGN major trophies get here. They'll be displaying those on the Vegas Golf Network Instagram page if anybody cares.

Joe

And uh really curious about this huge announcement that everybody needs to hang around for.

Matt

You know what it is.

Joe

I have no idea, but I mean, I would assume that everybody should hang around because it's a big announcement.

Matt

It's a big announcement.

SPEAKER_06

The announcement is there's a lunch buffet after our round.

Joe

Yeah, there's also free food.

Matt

There is free food after the round, yeah.

Joe

So uh everybody we get it, everybody that's part of VGN gets a Roberto's discount. I'm hoping that's I'm hoping that one dollar off your next video you mentioned hitting greens whatnot show. We're going back to bean and cheese prices from 1999, 250 each.

Matt

Let's go a little cooler in Boulder City as long as the wind's not coming up from the solar arrays. Yeah, that's true. It was it was really nice out there. The wind got a little nasty the last five, five, six holes, but up until that point, it means it was nice. There wasn't a lot of people out there. We we played the front in what 140, I think you said, Jeremy.

Jeremy

Yeah, I mean, I was home in an in four hours from when we started.

Matt

So yeah, it's it was uh it was a pleasant day out there. Greens were fantastic, bunkers are a little dry, but um, you know, that's that's gonna happen. But uh fairways and everything else was fantastic. Now on the desert hawk, I don't know, Joe, isn't the last time you've been out there? Has it been a minute? It's been a while, yeah. So they are building houses all along the yeah, that's I did read the email. I didn't read the email. I'm glad you read the email. But we we were saying that those are gonna be the most damaged houses in the valley. Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_06

They are gonna

Desert Hawk Housing Developments

SPEAKER_06

be really close to that hole. I've been up there so many times. They're not even that far off the hole, really.

Matt

No, no, they're not. Boo. Yeah, yeah. That flat mesa is no longer in play if you hit it wide right off of five.

Joe

Blame the data centers, guys. Blame the data centers.

Matt

I was really surprised. I know Boulder City has a growth limit clause that no new builders can come in and just buy land and build. It's got to get approved. So I was really surprised that they put that in, put those houses in.

Jeremy

They're building all the way around that hole and then all the way up the next hole, all the way around to nine. Yeah, all the way by nine green for the clubhouse almost. Yeah.

Joe

Yeah. It's not going to be the oasis that it used to be at one point. And such is everything, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Missing Primm Valley & Slow Hot Dogs

Matt

Bring bring back prem. I'll be happy. Yeah, just bring back prem. All my all my upsetness that I have right now. Is that a word? Upsetness?

SPEAKER_04

No. It is now.

Matt

It is now. Yeah, you just said it. All my angst towards Vegas golf is uh can be alleviated. If Prim comes back.

Joe

Bring back the thing about Prim, it it was always there for you, you know.

Jeremy

No matter what, always like you could wake up in the morning and be like, I think I want to golf.

Joe

Yeah, and then they had it waiting for they had a time for you, and it was like six, and it was 60 bucks, yeah. 45 bucks, 60 bucks. The problem was also is they just got it back, and it was just perfect, it was really good. That struggle was real, uh, but it was still an enjoyable course to play, even in bad conditions, because you got quality architecture, like maybe some maybe some sand on the greens here and there, but they just got it back.

Matt

Cool, like web house, great.

Joe

We got like four months, we got like four months of quality prim action, you know, and it was always there for you. You could always go out there and play quality, quality range, quality practice facility, questionable service in the restaurant, super slow service, but super slow, dude. Super slow. That dude, I want to know what I want to know what that dude is doing right now. Uh what's that guy doing right now?

Jeremy

He's probably working at the he's probably in the back of the kitchen somewhere still. He's lost 20 minutes to get a hot dog that was already ready.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my gosh, dude.

Joe

We do your thing and find that guy.

Dan

But he handed me a nightmare. That was a nightmare.

Joe

It really was sucked so bad, he was terrible.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, to have like restaurant workers.

Dan

Oh my gosh, I don't even think he was like a worker. You just like happened to just like walk back there and lives like oh he lives on ZYZX road.

Jeremy

Yeah, he's he lived in the the training center building out by the driving range, the fire alarm always going off.

Joe

You need to find him. We need to find him and like interview him because he sucks so bad. I want to find him. We'll get him and caddy. He's so bad, honestly. The worst, the worst, yeah, but the absolute worst.

SPEAKER_00

So nice though.

Joe

He was super nice, slow as a mother. Sloth boy.

Matt

But if you if you wanted a hot dog at the turn, you had to order it on a whole five.

Joe

Yeah, he was bad. He was bad. We can blame him on it closing.

Matt

Uh 100%.

Joe

100%. We should make sure it's blame prim closing on the dude at the bar at Prim. Blame it on the frozen hot dogs.

Matt

All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna

New CDP T-Shirt Merch Designs

Matt

throw this out to the people. Uh I had a uh a t-shirt idea for the show. Uh oh. Um put it together, show Jeremy. I'll keep his opinion. What he said. What do you guys think of this? And and if you're watching live with us here on YouTube, chime in.

Joe

Are you gonna read it or we have to read it ourselves?

Matt

Oh, yeah, that's right. I forget people aren't always watching. So uh it's got a warning label. It says unfiltered golf banter, may contain aggressive gear talk, tour drama, and Las Vegas style opinions. Side effects include dropping your handicap and wondering why you haven't been listening to the show your entire life. Real talk, real golfers, CDP.

Dan

I like it.

Joe

I mean, it's solid. Yeah, I think I mean, I think there's a little uh little uh theft on the Beth Page black sign a little bit, but I like it.

Matt

Too much to read.

Joe

I do know. Oh, too much to read.

Matt

Too much to read. Okay, it's on the back of the shirt, it's on the back.

Joe

So yeah, you know, you get to it's you're if you're if you're swiping your your encrustibles at self-checkout, and somebody who's looking at you, they might be like, hey, warning, what's this fucker doing?

Dan

Swiping uncrustibles, yeah, swiping uncrustibles.

Matt

So this would be the uh the left chest logo, and do not go by the size of it.

Joe

That's oh, we're police now.

Matt

We're I was gonna say it definitely looks very copish, very copish.

Joe

We cannot be the golf police. We cannot be the golf police.

Matt

The the the badge down there, I can I can change that, you know. But that that does look very badgy, right?

Joe

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we can't we're not the golf police, guys. We're not the golf police.

Matt

We just put a QR code that takes you straight to channel. Okay, all right. I like that idea. Yeah, do that on the chest.

Joe

That would be something on the chest. QR QR on the chest with CDP under it. I kind of like that. Good call.

Matt

Do you do you do you like the little badge like this without the circle?

Joe

Or just yeah, that's the badge on the back is not bad, but the front one looks like we're we're bad boys, bad boys.

Matt

What you gonna do?

Dan

Yeah, yeah, for sure. It looks like our explorers.

Matt

Someone called the wee-woo. Okay, so we won't do that on the front. I'll work on the front one a little bit more. All right, I want to try and bring different things, you know, uh to the to the show. So you need the whole podcast name on the back somewhere, chasing daylight podcast versus just CDP on the back. All right, thanks, Rob.

Joe

That's how they find us. They find us by the Chasing Daylight Podcast. So shout out, Rob. So uh all right, I like it. A dude running into the sun, a dude running into the sun with a golf club, running into the sun with a golf club, running into the sun, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Chasing chasing daylight, come on now.

SPEAKER_06

Anything better than a cop badge.

Matt

Easy now, easy now. All right, so um I don't have much else to chat about. Joe, I saw you were back on whatnot.

Joe

I did go live on whatnot. Also, guys, you help everybody in the chat, you guys help fuel the show through your comments, through your interactions. So anything you guys want to talk about, you can say it, and we'll do our best to engage. And the show you can take the show wherever you want to go. Comments help engage the show, man. It's appreciated. But yes, I was live on whatnot the other day. It's been a long time, and uh everything's out, everything's shipped out. One of the one of the um lefty shout out lefty az, his name is also Joe. He was playing a rider cup out at Cirquette. I was trying to meet up with him today, but uh we we did not make that happen, but uh, so I packed it up. But you know, it's a community, you know what I mean? It's the same same vibes as Vegas Golf Network, you know, there's golfers out there that we connect with, like payment fails out there. He almost killed me in Nebraska, but you know, we still know him and we met him. So what not's fun, man. I don't know how long much longer I'm gonna keep going, but uh it's not easy. It's not easy.

Matt

Is there too much drama or is it just too much?

Joe

No, no, I just don't have the time. It's just it's just hard.

Matt

I feel you.

Joe

Yeah, it's hard to hunt, you know. We're in a desert, you know. We don't live in Palm Springs, we don't live in Florida to go out there and hunt for things. Um I mean, we do have some connections with some companies and things like that, but it's just dude. I got I got kind of killed on some of the Garson stuff on the last show, and I mean breaking even, breaking even's not getting killed, but you know, it's just it's hard. It's hard, it's hard to do it, you know.

Matt

I wish I could do it more, but we got the Cascada email 600 for a foursome. Never played it, seems like a great deal.

Joe

Yeah, it's solid. Yeah, it's solid.

Matt

They are shutting down July 1st to redo the greens, so you've got three weeks. That's probably why they're doing it, trying to get as much traffic out there as they can because they are redoing the greens.

Dan

Do you want to talk about memorial at all?

Joe

It's all shut up the stellarmies, one man armies.

Matt

Yeah, I was gone. I watched maybe five minutes of it and the women's US Open, which Nelly on a heater again.

SPEAKER_00

I wish this the just didn't have time.

Dan

Charlie Hole was another runner up. Sorry, Joe, go ahead, bro.

Joe

No, the whole thing about all these tournaments, like memorial, like I remember like memorials on. I'm watching a lot of the a lot of the tournaments and everything are losing their luster. And I don't know if that's what Jay Monahan did or what the new commissioner is doing. Did you hear what Cam Smith said?

Matt

No, did you hear his comments about Liv? No, he's like basically said, all right, this was cool. This was a lot of fucking money, and it's cool, but dude, this is not sustainable, basically. This is this we can't do this.

Jeremy

This isn't how this game is supposed to be played with this much money, so yeah, and I saw what's his name, what Scott O'Neill, is that his name? The CEO of Live or whatever said that he can't guarantee that the yeah, the last four live events will even happen.

Matt

They apparently have pulled all their funding early. Yep, yeah.

Joe

This is this is a good one from Bush.

Matt

Yeah, he also said if if you get in and invest now, you're gonna be very grateful. Yeah, there's no way, there's no way somebody would say.

Joe

No, there's no way. Snake oil salesman, long as Dan Golf.

Matt

Go ahead, Joe, explain it.

US Open Qualifiers & Sectionals

Joe

So if you what's what's the dude on Instagram that breaks down all the the sports yeah, dude, that's so good.

Matt

Yeah, I I shared that on my stories yesterday. I don't know if it's still up.

Joe

Yeah, so the the US Open, which is happening next week. Um, everybody is if you're a plus what is it, plus four or not one point four or lower, yeah, plus plus two or something clearer. So you can qualify into your local qualifier, play, win that, go into regionals, play, win that, go into uh regionals, win that, and then you can if you're good enough, sectionals, you can play your way into the US Open. That's why the US Open is so dope. Yeah, because I mean Dan, Jeremy, not me or Matt, but they could play their way into playing in the US Open. Now there's some fucking sticks out there, right? Fucking super sticks.

Matt

Yeah, you had to be Jan Montgomery today. Yeah, but Monday, he got through 700 three amateurs at 6'5 at 600 and 500.

Joe

Like so, if you make it past the the regionals, and you make your way to the longest day of the year to qualify for the US Open, you play 36 in one day. You play 18 in the morning, you get a little bit of time for lunch. You play 18 in the afternoon, and if you win your what is it, regional sectional, you get in, you get in. I mean, that's how blocky did it. I know you guys love blocky, a lot of these block party guys. That's how he did it.

Matt

Well, he got did he didn't get into the US Open, did he?

Joe

No, PG Championship. He's a PGA championship, but that's how you do it. Yeah, I mean, there's there's a success story every year, so the account that were or what's his name?

Matt

The 17-year-old kid with that had Charlie Woods on the bag, got it. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, Miles Russell. Miles Russell, yeah. Uh, so the account Joe was talking about, it's underscore the the little underscore logo. Uh sports ball is the the account, and this is basically actually name speaking.

Joe

So that's why that new slide automatically. So those who wouldn't draw them out see it. Uh it just looks white.

Dan

Did you guys hear about the the qualifier um where they went into a three-man playoff and the winner holdout, and the one one guy in the playoff just kind of spaced it and thought he missed his spot and picked up his mark, and it turns out that it by doing that he forfeited his his alternate spot. Oh no, yeah, he's a PGA professional, he's a PGA player too. Yeah, he picked up his mark, and that took away his spot as being the first alternate. Oh crazy, huh?

SPEAKER_00

Ouch.

Jeremy

Which actually, I was reading about that. Someone said that it's pretty rare that the alternates get in because it has to come from that specific qualifier, but still, I mean basically giving it away. You never know.

Matt

That dude could get pushed, I mean, fall down some stairs, and you know what did Rob say crazy. Did you hear the story of the college player of Tennessee that qualified but didn't realize that the U.S. Open was next week?

Joe

No.

Matt

What does that mean?

Dan

But he just can't play in it.

Joe

He can't play in it, probably my assumption. He's got to go work at the shift at Waffle House on a Waffle House.

Matt

He's got glass, got some Rocky Top.

Jeremy

It's just interesting. Like you see all the pros like Max Homa out there carrying his bag and Zach Blair shooting 64 or whatever to win. Yeah, Zach Blair got in.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

Jeremy

It's just like it's interesting to see the guys that are just you know normal guys with families working out there playing with PGA pros that have to qualify.

Joe

I think you also get to you, also get to bypass some of the sectionals if you're a PGA professional, like Web Simpson. I saw Web Simpson, who else? I forget, but that video explains a lot of it.

Matt

Yeah, and I mean Shinnokok is special, it's a special place, and it's gonna be so on Long Island.

Dan

It's definitely Shinnicok's like what is it, top five in the country?

Matt

It's gotta be top ten minimum. Yeah, easily, easily. It's right up there. I I bet it's even better than some of the ones that I mean, you know, like even Mike Tradition says Matt tradition says that didn't like Pine Valley.

Joe

So yeah, I don't know too many people who don't like Shiny Valley. Uh did you see all the creators? They brought all the creators out Bev Boys, uh Chazie. They played Shiny, yeah. Yeah, they played it. I saw I saw one of those videos where they were playing uh one of those matches with Chaz and Bev Boys.

Jeremy

So I mean yeah, they did that at Oakmont last year, too. I think that was the might have been the first time they invited all the influencers out to play it a few weeks before. I did see that, Arbos.

Matt

I didn't they've been doing it for all of the majors. James Nicholas Garson guy made it.

Joe

Oh, yeah, a Grayson guy too. Garson Grayson Jones, yeah. I Jones player. I think I reposted that, dude. That dude's a grinder, he's been grinding for a long time.

Matt

He is like grinding waves for him right now.

Joe

Good for him, dude. I loved I loved seeing that, dude. That dude's a grinder.

Matt

Hey, we're gonna have uh as soon as it arrives, uh Stevie Jackson, of course, ordered the new lab putter, the the vision. Of course he did. Of course he did, yes. Um we'll we'll get our our hands on that as soon as it comes in to see what what's new with it. It's getting some good good.

Joe

Did you hit

LAB Putters New VZN.1i Model

Joe

up Sam and say we we'll take four of those?

Matt

No, but I told Steve, I said, Hey, did you did you reach out to Sam about it? He's like, I just kind of felt bad. I'm like, dude, don't you've you've got like ten thousand dollars in lab putters.

Dan

Yeah, he should be sending you literally has every model they've ever made, pretty much.

Matt

Yeah, he should be sending you them to test.

Joe

That's the one I would try to play. And when you turn down when Sam was on Sam from Lab was on our podcast, and you turn down us getting putters.

Matt

Uh-uh.

Joe

I didn't turn down us getting putters, I turned down selfish, selfish boys, selfish boys.

Matt

But no, that is my video.

Joe

That one looks good. Hey, it's all it's a funnel, guys. It's a funnel, it's a funnel.

Matt

Hey, we had him on the show, you got to talk to him. You're welcome.

Joe

Yeah, I told him, Hey, I don't know why you turned it down, so I gotta hit him up, is what you're saying. I feel like I could probably play the vision, I like the way it looks. Oh maybe it's as big as a DF3. Oh, I'm not spending the money on it, I'm not gonna spend that money, but it's it's as big as I would love to see it.

Jeremy

It's a huge ass head cover, too.

Dan

A big head cover. Okay, well, you're gonna have to give it a hand. I would give it an opportunity. I'm not saying I'm gonna play it. It's gonna look like a pizza box on your butt on your back.

Joe

It's gonna look like one of those canopies at a fitting event over your clock. I'm looking like I'm taking a uh a little Caesars pizza to personal pan pizza, right?

Dan

To the golf course, bro.

Joe

I'm just saying at least it looks pretty good, it looks pretty good.

Matt

Uh, we are hoping, Teresa's asking, are the CDP Garson grips out yet? We're hoping to have them by the end of the month. That's that's the hope. So we believe me, you will know. We will be putting them out there big time, and we'll be able to post it right here during the show, and you'll be able to click right on it and buy it.

Joe

Yeah, so yeah, I like the look of the division one.

Matt

I do it's not you like it, it's not awful. It's not awful. I still don't think I'll be able to roll it because I I can't roll the jailbird uh you know with that much offset onset.

Joe

So I'm just saying, if there was a lab that I I mean, even the blade lab, I'm not a huge fan of, but the vision looks pretty good.

SPEAKER_03

Pretty looks pretty good. Looks pretty good, pretty good.

Matt

I put the goodwood back in the bag, went back to the blade, jailbird experiment, Nebraska, over.

Joe

Yeah, well that's just that's just the story of that.

Matt

So yeah. That's that is my story.

SPEAKER_06

That's not a bad idea. What's that? Just hide it under a barrel cover. Yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah, think about that.

Matt

I've got five fairy woods, Joe.

unknown

No.

Matt

Oh, pull the lab out of my bag, switch the spider tour, not mad about it.

Joe

A lot of tour players are doing that. A lot of tour players are doing that.

Matt

A little peak me.

Joe

There you go. Rob, rob, golf question. I just saw a video about swing tempo slash rhythm of elite swings, are at 27 colon nine cadence. Have you guys ever tested this on your swings? Tempo. So it's the are you talking about Rob?

SPEAKER_06

You're talking about the think thinking, I'm bringing up Twin. The two are tempoc on the house. Shout out, Tween.

Dan

What a guy. Fucking T Dog.

SPEAKER_06

Have you hit those irons yet?

Dan

Rob, I'm 279. So yeah, I got you, buddy.

SPEAKER_06

That was based on Dan's. I could have guessed that for sure.

Dan

No, who knows?

Jeremy

I've never done it, but I'm that thing, Matt. Does that thing that you have measure that? Yes.

Matt

I'm uh it's it's for some reason not loading. I don't know why. It updated and I'm just getting the you know spiral of death. Yep. Come on, tour tempo. 27.

Joe

Also, if you have not left a comment, now is the time. We're probably gonna pull the giveaway.

SPEAKER_04

Oh shit, right now we're sending God.

Joe

Yeah, all you gotta do is leave a comment. There's only four giveaway soon. Yeah, there's only 14 people on the giveaway. We're gonna we're gonna give away a Garson Grip Max Tour.

SPEAKER_05

Is that the one I pull?

Joe

Yep. Is leave a comment. Um, red and black, canes colors down with the Kang's go nights go. But this could be yours. All you gotta do is leave a comment, get pulled on the wheel. And if you're a premium subscriber, you don't even have to be here. But if you're not, then you need to be here.

Matt

I'm not going to win, anyways. Uh yeah, I turned my wifi off and it's still not loading, so there must be something wrong with the app. I'll try again. This thing's a big boy, big boy. No, hold on, Rob.

Joe

I did see uh dude, the fucking you shared it, Matt. The uh national customs uh dude the macrohanish. That was his son's bag.

Matt

Yeah, Jeremy shared that originally, I think. Oh no, you I saw you like yeah, yeah, Jeremy shared it.

Joe

That was his son's bag.

Dan

Son's got a dream set up.

Joe

Oh yeah, head cover game was very strange. He's like the numbers don't match, kind of like the wedges are 789.

Matt

The wedges are seven eight nine because passing out so fucking sick, dude.

Joe

So fucking sick, and they're all rusted. Yep, rusty boys.

SPEAKER_05

The rusty boys.

Matt

Hey, listen to Bush right here. Hit that like and subscribe button. So um, some of you may notice if you look in the chat,

Announcing YouTube Memberships

Matt

some people's got the the green, the green name, some people have the white name. Uh that that is our new way for you to help support the show. Uh, we hit a milestone with YouTube, um, and we can now offer memberships. And it's only uh I think $199, I think I set it up, but two bucks. Two bucks a month. Uh, we're trying to get as many people, so I didn't want to price it out the window. Um, but what we're going to be able to do eventually once we get enough people involved in that is the after shows, we're going to be able to do them live. Uh so um instead of them being pre-recorded and then just posting them out to the CDP subscribers through our uh host, which is Buzz Sprout or the podcast, uh, we'll be able to do them immediately after live here on YouTube, and only the people that are subscribers can do that. So there you should see on your screen uh membership. Uh member, click on that, and it will do it. Or do I sign up? I have stupid Guam internet. You should see it on your screen. There should say that's a good spot. It says membership, it should say membership. True tempo is not working, so I'm sorry.

Joe

I tried. You know what's absolutely insane is to support your boys at the Chasing A Light podcast is less than a McDouble at McDonald's nowadays.

SPEAKER_06

It's it's less than a market of balls.

SPEAKER_03

It's less than, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It's less crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

Joe

Crazy. Where does time go?

Matt

Oh, look at that. What a what a guy. Anybody else get lost?

Joe

No, we get lost in freeways. Damn it. We get lost on freeways.

Matt

When the show's over, uh, just go to the main page here on YouTube, our main bushy boys.

Joe

And you can see it.

Matt

Yeah, Bush figured it out. Thanks, Bush.

Joe

Oh yeah.

Matt

And uh you'll see it.

Joe

Shout out to the homie ambush legend.

Matt

That's why I don't know.

Joe

Go dogs, go dogs. Just want a free dog ambush.

Matt

Has anybody had one of the new McDonald drinks?

Joe

No, I have not.

Matt

Just curious. They're building a McDonald's right by the up here by us. And uh, I mean, I have no desire to go there, but they're encroaching upon the canyon. Coming up the hill. We're getting there. See that Haas building put a sign out there that said, you know, now hiring. That is gonna be a fucking traffic nightmare. Come seven o'clock in the morning.

Joe

You guys are getting real corporate, getting real corporate up there.

Jeremy

We need to open a new freeway.

Matt

Yeah, my back road is gonna be a highway. Like, God man.

SPEAKER_06

Last buyer magic. Yeah, that's a bot. That's a bot.

Matt

14 people in the giveaway.

Joe

14 people, come on, 14 people in the giveaway, and there's 17 of y'all here.

Matt

All you gotta do is leave a comment. That's it.

Joe

Leave a comment.

Matt

Leave a comment. All right, let me pull that up over here.

Joe

You gotta be present, guys. You gotta be present. Gots the bees, he is share that screen. Did you see sugar loaf? Did you see sugar loaf in golf galaxy? Big win for them, man. Yeah, big win for them.

Jeremy

How long have how long have they been around?

Joe

I've been around for I don't even know. A long time, right? They've been around for a minute. 10 years.

Dan

That's going to Guam.

Joe

Most expensive shipping in the world.

SPEAKER_06

She's here.

Joe

She's here.

Matt

Yeah. We're just gonna put that in a bottle and throw it in the ocean, and hopefully one day it arrives. Nice. Nice.

Joe

Dude, uh Teresa has so many fucking Garson grips now.

Matt

She's gonna start her own whatnot show to this Garson Grip.

Joe

She's one of the licensed Garson dealer. Yeah, she's gonna be a Garson dealer at some point. Shout out to Risa. Shout out to absolute legend. Absolute legend.

Dan

So funny. Golf Galaxy employee discounts are insane, by the way. Oh hey.

Joe

We have to hit up fucking scales.

Matt

Yeah. What's the what are they selling from Sugarloaf?

Joe

Uh they did like the Anarak jacket. Uh they released the painter collab that they had. Uh what else did they do? I just I kind of wanted that anorak jacket. The Anarak jacket looks pretty sick. Robbie Chap with the new Robbie Chapman.

Matt

And hang Rob, if you want to go in and cancel your the one that you did, that's fine. Don't you can do that. No worries there. Uh completely. So $2.99.

SPEAKER_06

Rip off. Just the service fee of five dollars. Yes, wait till this gets the service fee is probably way more.

Matt

What was $400 CDP max premium?

Joe

Yeah. Skin of max boys. Ah so but but if you join, right? Like when we do an when we do an after hour show, which I don't think we're gonna do tonight. It's yeah, it's 9 15. I'm bad. But we can watch they can watch live, right?

Matt

Yeah, uh I will set it up to stream only to members.

Joe

So so that's where we just bullshit and we talk.

Matt

But you'll be able to engage, and you know it's it's kind of off script shit that uh you know we're behind it. Real raw. When you're when you're behind the paywall, filters come off.

Joe

Yeah, like what's your favorite brisket? What's your favorite bean and cheese in Las Vegas? What's your favorite topic? You've ever played.

Matt

Yeah, it's midnight. Yeah, I forgot.

Joe

You're you're in hotels in Omaha with us.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah.

Joe

Yeah. Do you like Hampton Inn? You know, do they have a continental breakfast?

Matt

You know, thinking inn or your thoughts on runs here, hard rock stew city fall.

Joe

Yeah, dude, they're hitting me up so hard with the emails every day.

Matt

Oh, yeah. Well, you robbed them. I did like this guy came in here and told us how to do bets and then took $400.

Joe

I didn't rob them, I was trying to teach them.

Matt

I think you were trying to steal from them. Them poor folks just trying to make a living. Joe's in there scamming them. He's like, This is a golden opportunity.

Dan

Yeah, that shit was wild. They were like questioning whether Joe's bets were legit. He's like, No, it is. Trust me. I live in Vegas, it's good. It's I know more than you. That's a good bet. My dad was a crab stealer, so it's legit.

Matt

Yeah, you're good. Trust me, I'm from Vegas. Trust me. Yeah, trust me, I know. I live in Las Vegas. I got it.

SPEAKER_06

My dad was a crab stealer. We got it. You're good. Trust me, I'm from Vegas.

SPEAKER_00

This is a good bet. We're sorry. You've won every bet. Trust me. It's legit. It's a good bet. Trust me. Yeah.

Matt

Don't get me started on roulette. Go get your little betting crabs for dummies book over there, and I'll turn it to page 107 and I'll show you exactly what we're doing here. Oh man.

Joe

Well, that'll be fine.

Matt

Yeah, they'll be fine. Anybody playing between now and Saturday? Any of you guys playing? Nope. Nope. No. Negative. Negatory. Um, I got the fittings Friday at so high. Dan and I are going to the baseball game Friday night, golf Saturday, Golden Knights Sunday, Golden Knights Thursday. There's a lot going on. A lot going on.

Joe

There we go. Got it. Bush is asking where his bag is, so. It's right there, Bush.

Matt

Tell you what. If you show up with a name on it, if the name on it is Bush, you can have it. But the name is not Bush, but you can't have it. Yeah.

Joe

He's gonna hound you. Send him all messages every day, Bush. Every day. Hound him. 1440 golf on Instagram. 1440 golf on Instagram. Hound him all the time. What we'll do is we'll go play and I'll use that bag just to rub it in. Just fucking hound him, Bush. Hound him. Like you hound me.

Matt

Dan. Yes. You can get more than 350 for that goodwood you're selling on Facebook Marketplace. What are you doing? Uh just getting rid of it.

Joe

Holy smokes. There's a good wood on Facebook Marketplace.

Dan

I got I got some I got some plans for that 350. So we're good.

Matt

Oh shit. Oh shit. Where should I be selling it? I don't know. Just if you see what they're going for. I I I look on eBay and I look at what they've sold for. And you know, because a lot of people list them high and they're on there forever.

Dan

I know.

Matt

I just got I got it's on there too. Did you see all those putters that Dave shared that he's gonna be selling? That one I sent you guys, that face, that was a fake face. That was a faux face. That was not an insert, that was a a faux insert. What does that mean? Uh let me let me see if I still have the photo. Let me see if I still have the photo.

Jeremy

Full of noodles and it's faux.

SPEAKER_06

It's it's not P H O, it's F A U X. Styrofoam.

Dan

It's Faux. Faux from Sea Ox City. Sea Ox.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, Seox City.

Matt

Right there. Oh wow.

Joe

Oh, that one, yeah, that one's sick.

unknown

Yeah.

Matt

Yeah, that's not an insert. That is that is etched and stained. Oh, so it's the same metal. It's just the same metal. Okay, I see what you're saying. But how sick is that? I was like, oh, it's one piece too. I love the back of it. Back of it was so sick.

Dan

He's very talented, that Dave.

Matt

Yes, he is. I cannot wait to see what he does once he gets to Tennessee. Davy does in it in the chat.

Joe

There he is. Doozing it.

Dan

Catching it over there over there, just ripping lips all night, catching strikers. That full finally catch caught a fish.

SPEAKER_03

Congratulations.

Joe

That was a good fish, too, man. That was a nice striper. I was a good fish, man.

Dan

I was probably a good 10-12 pounder at least. I'd say, yeah.

Joe

He was working for it too, man. Shout out Davy doozing it.

Matt

Buddy I buddy, I grew up without here. His grandpa had a little pontoon boat with a 32-gallon trash can that he used as a live pump.

Joe

And uh Teresa asked me to share this. This is where she played today. Nice. Shout out Guam.

Dan

Oh shit. That was beautiful. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We go out to the we'd go out to Guandom Dunes.

SPEAKER_04

Guan Guamton Dunes? Guam Dunes. Guam. Guam. Guamton Dunes. Guamton Dunes.

SPEAKER_00

Not Compton. Bandon. Guam Dam. Guamden. Guamden. Straight out of Guamden. Straight out of Guamton.

Matt

But he'd take that pontoon bone out. Las Vegas wash. He'd throw the net, catch some shad, and then we'd just sit out by the tires, drop it off the bottom, and we'd pull in stripers like this all night. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, that's fine. Crazy. And his little bath that you just smack it on his head and throw it in the freezer. That's it. It was a top 100 course in the early 2000s. Wow. That course called? What's it called? Times change. Times change. Times. Yeah. It is right there. Boom. Wow. That didn't take Rob long. He already canceled. Jesus. Damn, man. You were quick to that. I'm saving myself seven dollars a month.

Joe

Sono police. Mangalau. Mangalau.

Matt

There's golf everywhere. There's golf everywhere. All right. We've been going long enough. Let's wrap this kit up. Uh, I hope everybody has a fantastic rest of their week. Um, this comes out Thursday for those listening on the audio format. Uh, go nights go Thursday night. Uh, we've got a VGN tournament this weekend. I'll be posting a live leaderboard so everybody can follow along for that. 75 players in the field. We got a there's a lot of people playing in this one, so it should be a lot of fun. Uh, I know the Hearts flight, this is the largest size we've had in that flight ever. Ooh. Yeah, and and what's crazy is the the handicaps are there's only like six strokes between the low net and the bottom player. So uh that is gonna be tight, tight, tight. Um, yeah, so thanks for listening, Joe. Do your thing, chicken wing.

Joe

Yeah, thank you so much for tuning in tonight. We truly appreciate episode 382 of the Chase and Daylight Podcast. We are live every single week, Tuesday nights, unless there's a night's game, 7 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. Uh, please subscribe, like, share, all those things that everybody tells you to do. Uh, we love golf. You obviously love golf because you're tuning in. Um, appreciate you so much. Until next week, we will be back like we are every single week. Until next time, we will catch you. Check out Garsa Golf. Daylight 15 at checkout. Got it. Got it. Later.

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