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E388: Course Closures, Open Picks, & The Problem with YouTube Golf
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Welcome to episode 388 of the Chasing Daylight Podcast! In this episode, the guys cover a lot of ground, from the scorching Vegas heat to the final major of 2026.
- Garsen Grips Giveaway: We are giving away the final major release of 2026, the 1 of 100 "Leaderboard" grip!
- Pro Golf Recap: Recapping Tom Kim's Scottish Open win, Haeran Ryu's Evian Championship victory, and Scotty Scheffler ending his made-cut streak.
- Las Vegas Golf Course Updates: Discussing the renovations and new Bermuda grass at Revere Golf Club's Lexington course.
- Lost Vegas Courses: Mourning local closures and ranking lost Vegas courses like Desert Pines, Royal Links, and Silverstone.
- The Open Championship: Odds, predictions, and picks for the 145th Open Championship at Royal Birkdale.
- YouTube Golf Critique: A candid discussion on the pacing and constant talking in modern YouTube golf productions, specifically reviewing the YGT event at Purcell Farms.
- Upcoming Interviews: Teasing our chat with Exchange Golf regarding their modular putter shafts and an upcoming interview with Harry Arnett from Municipal.
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Intro & Garsen "Leaderboard" Grip Giveaway
MattWhat is up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. They're here.
JeremyWe are your hosts.
MattThey're here. Oh, there they are.
JoeLook at that.
MattThe Chasing Daylight Garson grips are here. Just opened up the package about a half hour ago. Very excited about that. They'll be up on the website shortly. I gotta do some stuff. I got I'm chewy. Now I got a lot going on. Uh, but tonight's giveaway, we've got the final major release of 2026 from Garsen. This is the leaderboard. Uh one in 50. Yeah. So is it one of 100? 100. Yeah. Uh they did 250 of this one. Yeah, they did that one because these the other ones they only did 100 of. So this is the giveaway tonight. What you have to do in order to be entered in the giveaway is engage with the show. Leave a comment. Leave a comment.
JoeJust like just like Punch Chewy, just like J. Very simple.
MattVery simple. Just leave a comment and you're in. So thank you so much. Look at that.
JoeThere he is. That's that's that's him right here. Sin City Fairways right here.
JeremyThat's a sick hat. I like that.
JoeOur boy did this one, I'm pretty sure. So I sent him over there to Sin City Fairways. Shout out, uh, shout out uh fucking Simron. Simron sent it to me. Shout out Simron. He's probably not listening.
SPEAKER_04Very nice.
Surviving Summer Golf & Sweaty Hats
MattI absolutely destroyed my white callaway hat today by playing in what felt like 75% humidity. Um I just I put it on before I came out here, and I'm like, what is on my hat? And I took it off and looked. Yeah, it looks like it's been soaked in urine, it's yellow. Oh you got some color today, too, Matt.
DanRosacea.
MattYeah, yeah.
JoeLooking like spaghettios over there.
MattNo white hats in the summer. Yeah, I know better.
JoeI know better. But you need to do white hats in the summer, it's too fucking hot. You have to do it, but you gotta wash them though. Yeah, you need one of those hat cages, just get one of those hat cages.
MattOne of those, it just destroys the hats. No, it does not. Well, you know, you wear them them bent 17 different ways, corduroy. You just gotta get the sweat guards.
JeremyYeah, no, you gotta spray them before you treat them, you spray them, and it blocks the sweat.
MattI have some of that stuff and I used it all, and it does work. It does work. I just need to get some more.
JeremyYeah, yeah, probably get skin cancer on your forehead from the chemicals, but one way or another you're getting it. One way or another, you're gonna be sweaty.
Pro Golf Recap: Tom Kim, Evian Championship & Scotty Scheffler
MattUh, so we got some things to talk about this evening. Uh, we've got the the final major of the year is happening. Uh Royal Burkedale, it's the 145th US or not US Open, the Open Championship. Uh that coincides with you know this this crypt giveaway. So um we got that going on. Uh I I I'm so bad at the Japanese names, and it's it's a Heyron you. How do you say her name?
JoeUh on you. Jeremy Mike.
MattUh, she won the Evian championship.
JoeWrong country. Yeah. You're close. It's closer, though. It's closer.
MattHey Ron Ryu. So uh she won the uh Evion championship, beat Brooke Henderson in a playoff. Hey Lando's in the house. What's up, Lando? Let's go. Um, she won that. Tom Kim got off his uh not winning ways and won the Scottish Open. Shout out LA Golf Shafts for the putter shaft in that putter that he won with. Can't get those anymore.
JoeCan't get those anymore.
MattGoners hanging on to them. They're relics. I got some brand new ones that I should have sent it to you guys.
JoeI lost it. But did you see that video of the guy that snapped his like yeah, his putter?
MattLike blade cracks, yeah, the carbon wow, trash, and then he putted with just the the hossle piece, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
JoeThe swing weight was way off on that. He probably would have made it if the swing weight was decent because it was it wasn't bad, but yeah, that was that was shocking to see.
MattUm let's see, and then Scotty ended his made cut streak, and then I was seeing something about the incredible underdog stories from the open qualifying. Apparently, uh David Howard, a qualified mechanic battling cystic fibrosis, also achieved his lifetime dream of qualifying for the 154th open championship. And uh former truck driver named Dean managed punches to get to the final spot as well. So congrats, congrats, guys. Look at Strange coming in. What a dude.
DanUh what a like where his waitresses, gentlemen in a scholar.
MattThank you for your service. You're the best. That was great. That was great to see Tom Kim win. I uh it was it was good. He played well downstretch, and and you know, he gotta gotta hit those shots.
JeremyAny any of it. No, I watched a little bit of it. That place is awesome.
MattThe renaissance, why can't they just say renaissance? Is it is that two different words? Is Ray not renaissance and renaissance two different means?
DanI think it's just one of those emphasis on the right syllable, advertisement, advertisement, like that. Everybody says la quinta, but you say la quinta white La Quinta.
JoeIt's lack, it's La Quinta. La Quinta. La Quinta. La Quinta.
MattLa Quinta. Is that how it's pronounced?
JoeLa Quinta.
MattYeah, so the yeah, great, great golf course. They did a little bit of rerouting on it. Um, Scotty did not play great. A lot of his his iron game wasn't there, and you know, shit, it happens. I think his cut streak would have came to an end sooner if he because I I believe they are counting the no cut events as you know, yeah, making the weekend, which I just I don't think they should count those. It's that only pertains to if you're playing in an event with a cut.
DanAre you more shocked that Scotty missed the cut or Nelly missing a cut? The way Nelly's been playing lately, probably Nelly. Right. You know, I was kind of surprised too. First time two number ones and miss a cut in the same week.
MattYeah, Scotty has been playing okay. I don't think he's been playing great, but I mean he did finish second in the US Open, and you know, he's let's go. He's a baller.
DanHe just hasn't looked like typical Scotty, you know. Seems like last year his his iron striking's a little off. You know, last year he was seemed like every time he was approaching the green, he had five, six, you know, seven, eight feet for birdie.
MattAnd then now it's like insane last year.
DanYeah, he's come back down to earth a little bit, sounds like so.
MattUh
Revere Golf Club Renovations & Course Conditions
MattJeremy and I got out to Revere today, this afternoon. Shout out to the crew out there with Alex. Thanks so much. Yeah, uh, Lexington is getting some renovation done to it. They're getting some new uh fairway grass. They're going to a uh Bermuda all fairway on the right now. They're doing all the par fives. So that's uh two, seven. Uh let's see, what is it 15? What's the other part? Or three. So 10 was 12. Straight up new grass. Yeah, yeah, they're it's all brand new grass.
JoeDid they burn it already though? Because typically they burn it around this time of year.
MattI yeah, yeah, it's it's dry.
JoeIt's gotta be around this time.
MattAnd they're also doing holes one and hole eighteen. So we were out there today and saw the new grass down. Down, it's getting watered. It's they're ahead of schedule. So when it I'm pretty sure I didn't, I should have asked when they're gonna reopen, but I'm pretty sure they're gonna wait till after the overseed.
JoeI'm sure it's gonna be peak season, is when the plan is.
MattYeah, I mean, but they've they eliminated 10 bunkers on the course that were really wow, unnecessary. Uh the most notable one that you can see is on the the anthem loop on 15 or 16. Sorry. The if you were to hit your T shot dead straight left, there's a bunker on that hill. Um, the part five on the road hole.
JoeThe part five, okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's yeah.
MattThat bunker up on the left hill, that's the on now.
JoeYeah, yeah.
MattAlex was telling me honestly, this is a bunker on three.
JoeI can design that. That's like bunkers on the right on three.
MattThey took off took out by the cart path on three. Yeah, the the th there's like four bunkers there. They got rid of the furthest one down from the T. On seven, they said they filled in some of the grass bunkers because they said it was just stupid to have the grass out there and have to mow it and maintain it.
JoeThose are about my designed by Billy Casper and Greg Nash. Yeah, is Revere. And yep. I've heard horror stories about all that shit, but another one maybe changes that they the Alex told me.
MattWas on so it's uh 10, 11, 12, the dog leg to the right that goes from left to right, and then there's like church pew bunkers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got rid of the furthest one from the T there as well. So a little bit more room to carry those bunkers now from the T. So yeah, so it's uh you know, good good for them. And they have some sand coming. They're just there's lack of equipment to get it out to the course.
JoeIt's not an easy place to get the the equipment out to either.
DanNo, did they uh redesign whole 10? No, they did remove one of the bunkers on 10 though. Oh shoot.
MattI like 10.
unknownI like 10.
Matt10's a great I like 10. Oh no, that's like a wedge and a wedge night.
DanIt's definitely 10 at uh revere and 10 at uh Dragon Ridge, Dragon Ridge, yeah. Those holes exploded in redesign.
JoeI think 10 at Dragon Ridge is a better hole than Revere, but one of my favorite things is if you do end up in a good spot on 10 at Revere uh Lex, it's a super fun shot and it challenges you. That approach is quite like that.
DanIt's fun, small, but I will say the appropri the approach into 10 is cool. That's that's a fun that's a fun shot for sure. Yeah, yep.
Arroyo Golf Club Routing & Rumors of Going Private
MattOh, somebody played a Royal twice this week getting ready for the weekend. How is it?
JoeOh damn. How's it be? Dog I've heard it's in good shape. Yeah, I'm curious how the games are. Did they put bridge like uh bridges over the roads or anything? Because that's our maybe it feels discombobulated, okay?
JeremyNo, they do not bad. They print you a map quest when with your scorecard.
MattYeah, you know what they need to do, they need to have like a little cart pad, a little a little trolley that you roll your card up on, and then you just it plays some music while it drives you to the next hole, so you don't have to do you just kick back and mess around on your phone and oh hey, we're here. Yeah, because you're getting the ferry out to the the green and at quarter lane.
JoeYeah, it feels like you're visiting your your neighbor, and then you gotta go get the mailbox, and then you gotta go check on something else. There's your car fire flights tea off in this guy's backyard.
JeremyRough was a paper route when you play there. Yeah, the uh rough at Arroyo's one of the only places in town that has sticky rough, like thick. It is it's good.
JoeI like the there's nothing wrong with the Royal itself, right? It's a good golf course. It just it's just the time spent in the cart that is unnecessary. They they should have mapped out the community a little bit better and figured out a better routing. That's our only beef with it. Because I saw T Tiel was saying our favorite golf course. It's just the driving, you backtracking, and you know, you're going to routing is cross for routing sucks. Yeah, but awful.
JeremyGolf course, okay. Starting on a par three now.
MattNo, no, we're starting, we're we're they're using the whole one again, so it's back to the oh, they are okay. That's good. Yeah, so we're we're reverse shotgun, we're one and then back 18, 17, 16. Uh, who who is who is this? Who is J Tody 2511? Who's that?
JoeWho are you? Who are you? J Tody. It's James Treadway, maybe. I don't know.
MattOh, that may be him. Yeah, uh, her royal is going private soon, like a practice course for Red Rock Country Club members. Kind of heard that as well. Heard that as well.
JoeYeah, see James. I got you. James, I got you, bro. I knew it. Matt did it.
MattYeah, there's there's rumors. What what I've heard that is if they um get approval to build some resort style living where the athletic center is now, then that's what they're gonna do. They're gonna shut it down and and make it private. Not really a practice course for the members, just another option for the members. Yeah, and then we lose another course. Lose another course. Speaking of losing another course, yeah, losing courses every day. We'll give world famous a few moments because he he apparently loves the affected.
Remembering Lost Vegas Golf Courses
JoeI love that place too. I love that place.
MattOkay, we know you do, yeah. I didn't know there was more than one of you out there.
JoeThere was a lot, there was a lot of people. Did you see Big Matt's post where he's like that's where you were up playing golf?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, okay.
JoeYeah, I did see that. Dang, you know what? I grew up.
DanWe're not offended.
JoeI didn't get to play it because I was talking to Torres and he was like, Yeah, let's let's play this week. I'm like, all right, and I sent him a message, and uh he saw it after I said I could play. So shout out, shout out Torres. And he wants that left-handed Nike that uh club that I just shot out on whatnot. So you're gonna have to get me a desert pines tea time, Torres. Gone. It's gone.
JeremyI know. No more tea time. And wonder when they're gonna start the work, like how quick they're gonna do that, or if it's gonna sit there and just overgrow. Yeah, we're gonna look like Prem just dead.
JoeIt's gotta yeah. I mean, I would I'm curious when they when the bulldozers come out, like it might be an opportunity to hop a fence, you know what I mean? So I don't know.
DanShit, there's already homeless encampments on that thing. Yeah, there is, yeah.
MattIt's gonna turn into a uh homeless encampment. Yeah, yeah. They were counting.
JoeSo I will say I I miss Royal Lynx more than I will miss Desert Pines. Oh, absolutely. Royal Lynx was fucking sick, dude. That was that was uh that was a damn shame that we lost.
MattAll right, let's let's rank let's rank the courses we've lost. So I know Joe, you didn't play Silver Stone or Black Mountain Badlands, Badlands. We got uh Prim Prim. We got Black Mountain Black Black Mountain's gone, yeah.
JoeRoyal Lynx, Bear's Best is gone.
MattUh Bear's Best and now Desert Pines. You have Badlands on that list?
JoeYep, I do. Yeah, he's got Badlands. I think with it being the open week is Royal Royal Lynx is the one. It's dude, that place was so much fucking fun, too. And it was unlike anything else in town.
MattSilverstone was a lot of great golf. I never got um Badlands. I I never really had a good time at Badlands because it I mean it was it was not an easy golf course. Very target golf, very target golf, very drunk Johnny Miller design.
JoeYeah, but wouldn't you like to play it nowadays with your upgraded skill level?
MattOh, absolutely. And there you go.
JoeYeah, and you were just a shit golfer back then.
MattThat's I was a very shit golfer, yeah.
JoeThere you go.
MattUm, so I think I think Desert Pines and Black Mountain are at the bottom, tight for the bottom. And then I'd have to go prim and royal links as one and two.
JoeYeah, prim, it's prim royal links.
DanThat's that's the that's the prim primver stone for me, and then royal links.
JeremyI wish I would have been able to play Silverstone.
JoeYeah, Silverstone was fucking awesome. You can you can still go see it, yeah. Probably there's not much grass out there, but no.
MattHasn't hasn't Spanish always been full private? They are they are private.
JoeWhat does going full private mean, Vic?
MattThey're that's a member course. I mean, yeah, it's member Sanchise in the house. Shout out, Sanchis.
JoeBears best third. No, Bears Best was not my favorite. Nah, I didn't combobulating.
DanIt's it's a royal for I wish you guys would have seen Bears Best when it first opened up. I think you're I think your I think your opinions would change. But did back in the day it was good, it was good. No, dude, it was just the conditions are perfect, Joe.
JoeYeah, but it's not all about conditions, I mean yeah, but you it it's you should have seen it. My problem with the royal nothing makes sense with the golf course. Why is there black sand on this hole and there's not black sand on any other hole? It's it's rep because it's like why there's one why exactly why is one hole twined with trees, like I love that hole, and everything else is like nothing. It was a theme, it's catching on.
DanIt was it was a theme of that course. Bear's best act.
JoeThere we go. T this is this is gimmicky used perfectly right here. It was it was 18 uh of Jack's greatest holes design, and they don't fit together because it's it wasn't it's a compilation album, it's not a greatest design, not a book, it's not an album, it's a compilation.
DanOkay, for somebody who worked there and actually knows the history of that golf course, it was not a design of his greatest holes, it was replica of holes that he could fit in that area. If there was a design of his greatest holes, every hole would it would be fucking Muirfield West. You know what I mean? So that's true. It's it was a get it was definitely definitely gimmicky as far as the as the as the theme to the golf course. But when that golf course opened up, it was Shadow Creek's rival. It was that yeah, it was in incredible shape. Greens were like 14s on the stemp, everything was perfect. It was same with the Royal Langs. Not not one blade of grass was. I mean, it was it was incredible, but then Club Corps lost it, and there you go, everything goes downhill.
JoeI mean, I played it for 35 bucks one time, and I was stoked. It was the first time I ever played it. I played it for, I mean, I liked I'm I've you know, I think that's the first time we ever played golf together. Was at Bears Best. Maybe I don't recall. Yeah, I don't recall, but I the golf holes, the singular as as a single, fine, like uh great holes, but they just don't tell the story of the moment. That's correct. That's my beef with that place. Dude, I love 17. I loved 18. I there's a lot of holes I really liked out there.
MattThey just didn't they just didn't be uber bougie, so it's gonna it's gonna have primo conditions.
JoeThey they have my uh ma honey to make it, they got that that fine cheese, they got that real deep in the cellar cheese out there, greer, uh rare greer sheep's milk, fucking age age dwellers. You know what I mean?
JeremyUnicorn, unicorn Swiss, yeah, unicorn swiss.
JoeThose holes in the Swiss were made by the unicorn horn, reindeer milk cheese out there, guys. Primo. Woolly mammoth.
MattUh yeah, so Jeremy, we played a match today. We played it handicapped. He played from the gold tees with me and um was putting a thumping on me, and then I made a little charge, made a little comeback.
JeremyI got complacent.
MattYeah, he got very uh Matt can't beat me.
JoeAnd uh you're slow golfing, it's fine, it's perfectly fine.
MattOh, yeah, yeah. And had a chip in on 16 that was tiger-esque because it slowly just Trickle, trickle boys, trickle boys, and then 17, as in true fashion of me playing golf on the 17th hole, kicked my nuts in. So lost three and one. But it was fun. It was I like I like having something on the table playing for you. Always having a match and not just out there, you know. So I hit I hit two fairways on the day. Uh was overdrawing everything. I hit two fairways, uh, the 17th and 18th. That's my my team, my ball was going hard left, like hard left. And I said, okay, I'm not gonna hit this left. I'm gonna weaken my grip. And and I've been working on a weaker grip, anyways, to combat the hard hooks and air mailed it into the ditch. So it was on the right side, so it's like ah, but uh yeah, I think all uh looking forward to Saturday uh VGN tournament. They're they're getting down to the wire, getting down to the wire. We only got so many events left. Uh, and then the the VGN is gone. So we got uh Arroyo, then we got Sienna on August 8th, we got Coyote Springs on September 19th. I knew you was that fool's gonna say something. Uh-oh. Not not anyway. Uh-oh.
JoeAnyway, we got 20. We got 22 people in here. We we what's the giveaway, Matt? Can we show the gibby again? Yeah, we show the giveaway that's gonna be here for the live people tuning in live right here. Garney a one of 100 Garson leaderboard for the 26th major release, the last one of the year.
MattAnd while you're at it, check out the chasing thing. All that glare on there. There, oh, even more plastic on it. Let's get out of that plastic, too. There, now hey, see how there it is.
JoeYeah, yeah, there it is. The Garson chasing daylight. How many do we have? We got 55, right?
MattGot 55 of them. Yeah, yep, 55 of them. Got the black garden hit on the side, quad tour on the other side. Nice little alignment.
JoeMega cleany boys, mega cleany boys. But the the giveaway for tonight is not not the chase.
MattNo, not that one. That's this one. This one will stay in plastic. This is that's a blue, blue color, like the open. So that's that.
JoeThe leaderboard, it's based on the leaderboard at the the the famous leaderboard at the open.
MattWe're gonna do this though. We're we're we're each gonna sign this grip. This is the first one we opened. So we'll slap some signatures on this side, we'll slap some signatures on this side. It's going on eBay for a thousand dollars.
JoeYeah, do it. I missed that last week when you guys are talking about it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you stepped away, and uh that was a great idea.
JoeThat's a great idea. Put it in the frame, yeah. Put it in the frame and everything.
MattUh uh, thank you, Chris. Thank you, Chris.
JoeAppreciate it. How is Jordy not a member on YouTube? I'm calling you out right now, Jordy. Well, he's he's not a member on YouTube. He's a member through Buzz Sprout, he just has to cancel that, Jordy. And cancel that on YouTube. Yes, this guy's sending me screenshots of me looking all goofy and saying, Have a great week. And yeah, that I did not see.
MattI mean, even Bush is calling me out, but wow, as long as Joe doesn't sign it, it'll be worth a lot more. That hurts, yeah.
JoeBush is calling me out, but he's a subscriber on YouTube. All you gotta do is be a premium subscriber, and uh we'll deal with all the hate. But uh, Jordy, I don't know. I'm kind of upset.
MattYeah, Jordi,
New YouTube Memberships & Discount Codes
Mattdo better. Oh, hey, also, there's a there's a new level of memberships on YouTube. So we have two levels now, par and birdie. It had to do a golf theme. I know Joe gave me crap for that. Yeah, um, and I will continue to. Um what did you want me to call it? What are your ideas?
JoeI would call it Albies, Albies and Eags or something, you know.
MattAlbies and Eages, yeah, make them battle for it. All right. Um, so there's a there's a second level now, uh carni asada versus bean and cheese.
JoeI don't know. I would have made it more interesting though.
MattOkay, well, we have the ability to change it at any time.
JoeWe'll try and think of something, but okay. Joe misses Greens. I do often for sure.
MattBut with the new level of membership, if you you can upgrade, you don't have to uh uh you know decline or cancel your membership and then resign back up. You can just upgrade it and excuse me, if you have that uh membership level, you get access to a discount code that you'll be able to use on our website or here on YouTube when you make a purchase, and that'll save you some bucks. So we already have one person that's done that. Thank you very much. And more to come.
JeremySo but say it, Jeremy. You're laughing. Say it. No, I I asked Dan if I keep freezing because it looks like my internet's like rapping out and replied with a nice gif. Dan fashion. Was it that foot condom one?
JoeNo, no, that's a good one, though.
MattOn the podcast, no, sorry. That that level, I don't know if anybody's gonna pay for that level.
JoeYeah, you should make a tier one if you buy the grip for the thousand dollars on eBay, that might get you on the podcast. That might get you on the podcast because we gotta we're gonna have to understand how crazy we got Bush on the podcast tonight.
DanWhat the fuck were you thinking?
SPEAKER_04Subscribing.
MattUh so speaking of having people on the show, how raise raise your hands if you listen to the exchange golf interview I did. I haven't listened to
Exchange Golf Modular Putter Shaft Interview
Mattit yet.
JeremyI haven't listened to it. Sorry, I'm halfway done.
MattLas Vegas bean and cheese ratings come out. Uh yeah, so I had I had the guys from Exchange Golf. They have the modular putter shaft uh that you can you know have three different grips or as many different top hands as you want. Uh for your putter. It was a great interview. Great guys, uh, loved having them on. It's a new product that's gonna, I have a feeling it's gonna catch some wind and be a big factor in not only the fitting game, but you know, people like myself that love to tinker, um, but like have found a head that you absolutely love, but you're not quite sure on the grip. It's a great way where you can uh mess with lengths, you can mess with grips. Uh yeah, can I ask you? Worth checking out.
JoeAnd and I don't know if it was answered in the podcast. And all you gotta say is if I ask you a question, say it was answered in the podcast, and maybe people will go listen.
MattOkay.
JoeDoes the exchange grip shut out golf exchange does it change the swing or the uh the the flex of the shaft?
MattWell, if you're comparing it to a steel basic steel stock shaft, yes, it's gonna have a different feel. It's it's a completely different type of shaft. So but it it feels really good, and my biggest concern is because it has it has this knuckle that you know slides into this this hole right here, and it's a joint, you know, it's a it's a connection. And my fear was it's gonna feel like the medicus club, you know, where you you take it away and it's gonna hinge, yeah. Yeah, and it does not. You you if you were blindfolded and I handed it to you and had you putt with it, you would have no idea that that was a modular putter shaft.
JoeI mean, I do like connection, connection is a great thing in the world. So I'm gonna listen, guys. I have not yet, but I gotta, you know, I've been I've been trying to get through this podcast that that Cliff sent me once I'm done with that.
MattOh, which one?
JoeThe one about the I don't know how I can say it. It's about the sodium nitrate. Did you listen to that one? No, the one he sent me with uh when we were in Nebraska about the suicide salesman or the S side salesman.
MattOh, I have to listen to that.
JoeYeah, I've been trying to get through that. I think I'm on the last episode, but after that, boom, chase of that podcast, exchange golf. Let's go.
MattI'm gonna I'm gonna turn you on to a whole another uh gaggle of podcasts and the true crime stuff that I've been on this this wave of that is so damn good. Crazy freaking stories on this Matt's riding the wave right now, guys. Riding the wave.
Matt Joins Life Time Fitness
MattWell, and other big news in my life, real quick, I'll get onto this, and then we can talk about the open if we want to. I I wasn't sure I was gonna tell everybody about this, but I'm I'm kind of excited about it.
JoeUh Eric and I joined uh Lifetime uh Athletics, ballers out here, guys.
MattOne percent, one percenters, one percenters. Um, and man, man. Yes, I I am freaking loving that place. Absolutely honestly loving that place.
JoeSo, yeah, you've been two days in a row. Did she join? Did you guys join so you can play pickleball in like an exclusive environment, like country club?
MattThat's I felt like I joined a country club. I felt like I joined a country club that doesn't have a golf course.
JeremyDo they have simulators in there?
MattThat's probably next. It's pretty freaking nice, and uh it is nice.
JoeI've been there, it's very nice.
MattThe the steam room. Oh my god, the steam room is really great. Dude, you walk in there and you get hit with a wave of eucalyptus, and then you like my lungs have never felt this nice in my life.
DanCan I bring in my own eucalyptus?
MattUm, yeah, that and sauna, the pool, I mean everything big ticket, big ticket vibes. One of the things that you know, when we were in Palm Springs, the the place we were staying at had a pool, of course, and we were in the pool daycare there too, daily daycare, too. Yeah, we don't need it though.
JoeI know, but that's what we I looked into it.
MattYeah, and I was in the pool a lot, and my knee felt fantastic. That not you know, that resistance uh in swimming is amazing, and uh so I I excited about the pool, excited about going to laps.
JoeLook at Bush and Bush watching on his projector out in the Bama. Why not the sticks?
MattLove it. Uh yeah, so uh met with a personal trainer today and had an analysis done, and you know, I've I've been doing step the stairmaster, been doing the treadmill, been you know, have a game plan in in effect, and uh I'm excited about it. And the perks, the the pickleball perk is nice.
JoeThe the the I mean it's a great spot.
MattThey have ragged ball at the Summerlin at one.
DanI used to play racquetball back in the day. I used to play racquetball a lot. Yeah, racquetball is fun as fuck.
JoeI used to watch that and step brother. That is so much fun to play that shit. The so when when we went, because Katie has a friend that's uh a member there, and uh we went and we were looking into it. It was like it was like family, like 200 bucks a month. And and I looked when uh Quinn was born and we were looking for daycare, it was like 650 bucks a month. It's not cheap, so yeah. For a family, for family, individual. Oh, I was gonna say, holy, but still, it's a gym.
DanThat's a that's a yeah. I mean, when you're paying that much, you gotta be going every day.
JoeI mean, we're just looking for that lifetime fitness sponsorship, and they're gonna come crawling at some point, guys. They're gonna come crawling at some point, but their steam room is is electric, dude. I I was blown away.
MattI was blown away.
JoeThere was like and they got out there pool that looked that looks like you know, just straight up a community center of just banger shit, you know.
MattIt's like a resort, it's like a resort, and you know, I uh so the first day I went, I was testing out some machines, you know, and then I uh go inside, change into my suit, go out, hit the hit the hot tub for a little while. Then I went outside in the pool, and and I had the whole entire place to myself. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. And uh I mean it's it's so nice, just so many nice things in it.
JoeSo the lifetime living complex.
MattHey, once you know, hey, you know, we need to downsize that maybe one place we look at, yeah.
JoeThen we and then we can go, you can cross the street and come hang out with me at work, and we could go hit Irv's burgers, you know what I mean.
MattFree free membership if you went there.
DanSo, did you go there yet, Joe?
JoeNo, I haven't been there yet. Well, I ate at the one at Durango, but um, no, I have not because we get free food, we go to the the uh employee dining room and um the old media if it's gonna if it's gonna be bad, you know, one day. If it's bad, then I'll I'll head up there.
MattLike I'm gonna get a lifetime member bag to replace the Callaway bag. Oh, but yeah, I was blown. I mean, 200 they have 200, 247 classes that you can attend at that place. It's un unbelievable. So I I was really impressed.
JoeGreat spot, it's a really good spot. It really is.
MattAnd uh the the personal trainer that I met with today, I told him, you know, I'm I'm heavily into golf, I play a lot, and uh he's like awesome. He goes, How's your ground force interaction? I go, it doesn't exist. He's like, we're gonna fix that.
JoeAnd uh ground force, so he knows.
MattSo he oh he knows, yeah, he knows. It's looking forward to that. So changes are coming to this guy, so cool.
JoeIt's a whole new dad, guys. It's a whole new dad.
JeremyHe's gonna be activating his glutes in no time, in no time, just wait, just wait.
MattAll
The Open Championship Odds & Picks
Mattright, so we got uh next up, we got we're gonna talk a little bit about uh the open championship.
JoeLet's go got pain. Did you tell them you broke par?
MattYeah, they're like, come on in member exclusives now. Anybody that's coming to party get a discount.
DanHey, you know, I broke par. Give you a lifetime athletic patch to put on your golf bag. Yeah, yeah, give me a discount. You got to rare remember.
MattHere's a coaster. Use it for your water.
JoeHere you go. You got the lifetime achievement award.
MattCongratulations. Oh man. All right, Royal Burkdale. We're gonna have to make our picks, so get your picks ready. Uh, let's let's see what the odds are anything right now. Holy smells. What are the odds for open championship, guys?
JoeAlso, we're gonna give away a Garson one of 100 grip. All you gotta do is leave a comment. There it is. It's called the Leaderboard, the last of the major series. Shout out, Garson. Use code Daylight 15 to check out, save yourself some money. But we're gonna give one away tonight. All you gotta do is leave a comment. Be here when we pull it. It's a banger. Get up in there.
MattRight there.
JoeDaylight 15. Almost got that covered in the face.
MattYeah, so get in the give. Get in. All you gotta do is leave a comment. That's it. Leave a comment. Let's see how many we got so far. Right now, we've got 18 people in the game. Hey, that's not bad for 39 minutes. Normally, that's normally where we're sitting at at the end of the show. So keep them rolling in. Keep them rolling in.
JoeWe did find out that you guys are using the link or the the code. So thank you guys for doing that. You guys have been using the code. Appreciate you.
MattYou've been telling people, people have been using it. I was surprised at how many people have. Hit me right here.
JoeYeah, I was surprised. It it's a heart stringer, it's a stringer of the heart. You know what I mean? Can't believe how many of y'all have used that. Thank you so much. It means a lot.
MattYes, it it truly, truly does, and it means a lot to Garson as well. Yeah. They're if if you're on social media at all, you'll see them all over the place. They're working. Everywhere. You know, they they with Exchange Golf, they have uh an ultimate package where you can get uh the X1, they call it as the lower half that attaches to the club, and then the upper piece, you can get three different uppers with three different Garson grips if you want. So it's a great package.
JoeOh my Mikey B up in here. Shout out Garson, absolutely.
MattLet's go. All right, let's see if the odds came back. Uh Scotty Scheffler is your favorite. Uh, followed by Rory McElroy, Matt Fitzpatrick, Tommy Fleetwood, John Rom, Xander Shotley, Chris Godderup, Cramp, Cam Kuret, Cam Young, Ludwig Ebert, and Colin Morikawa. Tommy Fleetwood has drawn a massive amount of betting action. Fleetwood grew up in Southport, the exact town where Royal Burkdale is located, so betters are rallying behind the native of him, the narrative of him winning his first major in his own backyard. Matt Fitzpatrick and John Rom are grouped tightly together right behind the top two favorites. Both offer solid payouts and they can navigate the tricky Burkdale links and secure a victory.
JoeI gotta load money into my sports spinning account. Fuck. Uh oh. Got Tommy. I like Tommy. Tommy played very good. Last major. Yeah, I think we're gonna be in for a surprise, honestly. I think we're gonna get a surprise.
MattBaggy pants, Tommy. A surprise as in not a front runner or my guess.
JoeThat's what I mean. Do you think it's I don't think it's gonna be like Scotty or Rory or Victor or maybe Fitzpatrick? I think it's gonna be somebody flying a little bit under the radar, maybe.
MattLike I don't know.
JoeSam Burns. I could see Sam Burns winning a lot, uh, very bigly. Um very bigly. I don't know. Very bigly using Trump words out here. Fuck it's a beautiful course. It's it's fantastic, guys. It's fantastic, it's really great. It's really great. He'd be saying Turnberry's better.
DanShould have held it at my course.
JoeHe would for sure be saying Turnberry's better. The great golf course, greenly up in the way better major.
DanNot as good as my course, but it's fantastic.
JoeYeah, it's not my course, but it's gonna be good, but it's not gonna be as great as it would be at Turnberry. Turnberry, Turnberry, fantastic.
DanOf course, you know, I have a lot of great properties, you know. They the tour used to stop at my course of Durah. Uh great, great golf course, beautiful golf course.
MattWe love, we love we have the best, we have the best beautiful, but it's gonna be a fabulous, great tournament.
DanAll right, so who y'all got? Who we deal with? Who we deal with?
JoeSo much. Where are you? I kind of feel Jeremy's gonna pick Jerry uh Jordan's beat. But I can see how dare you take Jordan. You can take Jordan. I'm gonna do it. I gotta do it. No, I'm not gonna do it.
MattI think I cursed him. No, I think a Rick Shield video about a golf store in Korea. Saw a Garson grip in the L in the lab golf section for the grip options. Garson all the way in Korea. Absolutely.
JoeShout out Garson. Let's go. They're huge. Daylight 15.
MattHuge over there, huge, huge grips.
JoeHuge, huge grips. Love Korea, love Korea. Shout out Garson.
MattAs much as China. All right, so Dan, you were the winner of the US Open picks. You had the best, you had the best. I was I was second. Um I gotta see the full fill here. Hang on a second. Let me pull that up. Fitzpatrick. I do like Fitzpatrick.
JoeMax Homa playing well, too. These guys are calling out some names. Yeah, yeah. I like it.
MattI think they got the odds up on the PBA. Oh, Harry is plus seven. 17500. Not not ideal.
JoeThat's the underdog story we need, guys. We need Harry Hall winning a major shot.
DanI really want to take Rory. I really like Rory this week, but I'm going to try to stay away from a major favorite and kind of go with a little little bit of a longer shot. And I'm going to roll with.
unknownYeah, I don't know.
DanUm, let's go. Uh, he hasn't been great. He looked good last week, but uh maybe that's the start of something to come. But I'm gonna roll with Victor Hoblin. Oh, great pick. Well, he was hobby, but yeah, I'm gonna be cheering for Rory, but I'm picking Victor.
MattAll right. I am going with the the leprechaun, the little mini Shane Lowry and Carrell Hatton.
DanI like Terrell Hatton. Terrell fucking really he always seems to play well in majors.
MattYep, yep.
DanOh hey, look and I wish I wish they kept a hot mic on him at all times. Oh yeah, fantastic. It just sounds like him and I would get along real nice. Yeah.
MattUh let's see. Groupings, round one.
DanWhat up, Greenley? Shout out, shout out, Eric. Shout out, Greenley. Shout out Greenly, shout out Texas.
MattRicky Fowler, Robert. Okay, so Jeremy, um we'll let you go because I know Joe's probably still pondering. Yeah.
JeremyWho's your pick? I think I'm gonna go Justin Rose. Jay Rose. Well, there you go.
MattFirst time ever. Not picking Jordan Speith. I don't want to change him.
JoeThat's why I would hate Jordan a lab putter. So Jordan Speeth for me.
MattI was gonna say Joe, perfect time to take Jordan.
JoeYeah, I wasn't gonna take, I wasn't gonna steal the essence away from Jmart, but you know, it's all yours. Maybe, maybe, maybe this is maybe maybe this is what he needs. He needs me to pick it. I think so. How about a David Duvall sighting on the leaderboard?
MattHow awesome would that be?
DanIs he in it? Yeah. I mean, I know he won his British there, but I don't know if he's in it or not.
MattPlayer for life if he wants to.
DanOh, really? Yeah.
MattI was gonna pick uh Gary Woodland, Jake Knapp, and Jordan Smith. That's gonna be a good pairing. Jordan, who's that? I th I think we're gonna make something.
JoeI like I mean, this I like you should go with Stuart Sink and your favorite golfer. Oh, Stuart Sink, what a fucking yeah.
DanWhat's Marco Mira doing?
JoeCrown of Thorns, that guy. Just straight up white, red thorns. Crown of thorns. And he fucking ruined. I mean, if you guys go back and listen to the podcast, he ruined my Harry Higgs pick at Safeway.
MattSo wow, yeah, it's Scotty Scheffler, Terrell Hatton, Bryson D.
JoeChambeau in our first group. I can see Ricky Fowler winning too. Like Bush says Ricky Fowler. I think we're gonna get a surprise, is what I'm saying. I think we're gonna get somebody that's hasn't won in a while. Um that's what I'm saying. I think we're gonna get a surprise, and I'm all about it. Bryson definitely is not winning.
MattNo, Rahm is gonna win it with the soccer team winning it. Spain is playing really good soccer right now. Football.
DanYeah, they shut down France today. Yeah, and France didn't give up any fucking goal. Spain has given up one goal a whole tournament. Yeah, and I think France gave up two today. But man, that kid, that kid Lamin Yamon, man, that kid is ridiculous.
MattLooking forward to the Bryson highlights, yeah. Yeah, all right, Joe. You're on the clock. Just Bryson missed the cut. Oh, you are taking Jordan? Yeah, I'm going to. Okay, all right, all right.
JoeWanted to just wanted to make sure you never you did not need a clock.
MattI already told you. I well, I didn't know if you were just tearing at Jeremy's you know, heart strings.
JoeJust no creativity, um, you know, run out, you know, growl around the bag, guaranteed win. On there. And this is what he needs. Like I was telling you, this is what he needs. He needs me to pick him and not Jeremy to pick him. So that's why we're going speed. Just so we can fill out.
MattOh, it just tells 55, Dan? I thought it was I thought it was as long as you want to play, you can play. And like, you know, represent. How old is David Duvall now?
Dan800. 53, 54. Yeah. This is he's had I think he's had a couple of years on the PJ Tour Champions.
MattI haven't seen him playing much. 71 and 74, yeah. He'll turn 55 in November. So yeah, this maybe could be his last last opportunity. That makes sense. I haven't seen him playing much golf. Yeah, he's good on the mic. I mean, he's really good on the mic.
JoeI he is good on the mic, yeah. David Evalu.
MattSo a couple a couple things I
The Problem with YouTube Golf (YGT Critique)
Matthad revelations on. And if you guys want to talk more, if anybody in the comments you want to talk more about the open championship where you rated whatever, please, all by all means, leave comments. But I I had a couple revelations this last week. Um, and it involved YouTube golf or what the YGT and YouTube Golf, I guess you could say.
JoeUh-oh.
unknownUh-oh.
MattUh-oh.
JoeIt's just golf. Reliable on YouTube too. I did finish the last episode, so I have thoughts as well.
MattYeah. Uh, I I think, and and Dan said it, and I can attest to it, the golf that took place in the final was fantastic. There was some absolute great golf that took place. 100% not dogging that whatsoever. Like I said, the production is is fantastic, it's really good. I just something I have a hard time overcoming, and call me boomer and call me old man, all you want, is the constant talking about what's happening. I don't need to.
JoeYou're working out now at lifetime, so like this might change soon, but I'm just letting you know.
DanLet me let me ask you this, Matt, real quick. The announcers and every whole commentator, they're always talking when the PJ Tour guys are playing and stuff like that. What's what is it? Is it the topic of the talking about? Is it the same voice? Is it the fact that there's not like four or five people talking? Like, what do you what do you hate about the talking?
MattI I relate it to playing golf out there. When you're out there and you're playing golf, um, you know, with us, I mean, we'll bullshit and shoot the shit and talk, you know, funny memes or jokes or laugh or whatever. That's one thing, but I've never been with you guys where we've been out there and you're like, all right, I got 175 yards to the pin, the win. You're missing, you're missing it. I think my Tacoma uh seven iron, by the way, use this discount on Tacoma win, and then I'm gonna hit it and let's see, we're gonna try to aim on the left because the green's coming down to the right, you know, and it's just there's so much information that I just I I it's not something that I'm like, God, I wish they were telling me about what they're getting ready to do, you know. I I get that, but and I get it from like a YouTube golf standpoint, you know, because I uh playing with Julian a lot and when we film shots and something special is going on, you want to let everybody know what's going on, you know. Like when we were at out at Southern Highlands and Julian was trying to hit this crazy slice between the trees because his fade wasn't working, uh, you know, on that shot. Yeah, we're gonna hey, and I'm like, hey Julian, tell me what's going on, you know, because that's like a small video that's gonna go up, that's gonna get consumed, and people need to know what's going on. When you're watching an event that has been on for five hours or four hours, you know what's going on. You don't need to have the play by play of every thought in their head, but it's it's that's the way it is, and I'm I'm totally fine with that being the way it is.
JoeBut would you but would you like it if they did it on PGA tour where you're in this you're in the mind of Jordan Spie, like you know, we love the caddy mics, you know what I mean? Like and Jordan's like, I gotta hit, I gotta hit this little knobber right here, and I gotta let it run out to the right 10 yards.
MattThis is the this is the difference between a YouTube golf production and the PGA tour. Jordan will have a conversation with his caddy, yeah, but that's that's it. If it's a if it's a basic 150-yard shot, he's not going in depth with anything about what's happening. This is a you know, basic shot. I'm gonna hit this, you know. He's not gonna come out of his element. If you if you follow around, you go to PGA tour event, you follow around PGA tour players, there's reasons they're not all mic'd up all the time because it's fucking boring, they're just out there playing golf and there's no like crazy conversations going on because they're just out there doing their job.
JoeI'm I'm curious. Do you think one of the solves of it would be like they everybody has a caddy, and then the caddy and the player are mic'd up, and then we just hear their conversations and they're not talking to us. And I think this could be a really good idea, and YGT, you know, send some uh sponsor dollars away.
MattBut I know why they don't have caddies because you can't, you know, it you gotta have the in-cart video running so you can record everything that they're talking about, you know.
JoeI and that's yeah, it just you know, I'm with you. I love the storytelling, right? But I do think that there was too much fluff and too much filler in all of it. But yeah, they're trying to tell a story, you know, which I get, and every time, yeah, and you know, we said it last week, but they bounce around too much, they really do yeah. There was that was that was annoying, and the story gets lost, but I think if they could if they could really like dial it in, and maybe they got a guy like helping them, or I mean they're not gonna walk, of course. And you want to obviously have the personalities in the cart where they can interact and get those moments, but yeah.
MattWell, see, I the the thing and Jeremy, you're never saying about the commentators on TV, you know, commenting. That's that is kind of a little different because it's it's those two people mainly. Sometimes you have you know, like Dottie following or uh, you know, some guys out there following that they'll give some insights on certain things, but for the most part, it's those people commenting about the players, and you don't have that could be good too. Yeah, different people talking about this shot that they're getting ready to hit. Like, I I it's just it's so much talking that honestly.
JoeThat could be great, is like there's a commentator that follows every group, and they're then they go up when it's time. Hey, what do you got here? What do you what are you thinking of? What are you trying to do? I mean, you know, or they could be in the background whispering. I didn't hate it. I will say it was too long, though. It's fucking way too long, way too long.
MattAnd what I thought was funny because I I posted that video on our IG, I posted it on TikTok, and Mike reshared it. Mike from Beautiful Golf Courses, which I owe him an apology. I'll do that in a minute. Um, oh shit, posted it and the and the comments were all directed at doesn't this guy know how to fast forward? You should just fast forward. Well, fast forward then. Well, you should just fast forward, you just fast forward, and dude, believe me, I fast forwarded a lot, but I also wanted to watch it to see what it was. And this is what my my analogy, my brain thoughts on that are if you're the people backing YGT and you're putting this product out there, are you really excited that everybody is fast-forwarding over your content?
JoeYou know, it oh, I fast-forwarded the hell out of that shit.
MattYeah, I know. I absolutely, but is that something you want, or do you want people watching what you're putting out there? You know, if it if it comes back, I I wish they had a way to where they could go, hey YouTube, what did they fast forward over? And then they would go, Okay, we can take a lot of this shit out and maybe go from five hours to two.
JoeYeah, I'll I'll go to I'll go to X Drive only's comment right here. As an inside the ropes guy, I disagree. There's a lot of dialogue. Yes, absolutely, there is a shit ton of dialogue that happens inside the ropes, but the way that it happened is like, hey guys, I got 154 right here. I'm gonna try and hit a little draw off that little corner of a top, carry that bunker, blah blah blah. But it's just not done in a fascinating way, if you will. Like, if it's if it's interaction between the player and the caddy, and it's like, what are you thinking here? No, don't you know? No, I trust your seven iron here. Don't hit your eight, you know, whatever it is. I think it's just done, like, hey guys, in your face, hey guys, blah blah blah. I got this is per cell farms, it's one of the greatest part threes in the world, and it drops this far. And we heard it every time they showed up to that part three. We've played it, we've played per cell farms. It's like, oh, this is crazy, this is crazy, and it's just like we don't need to hear it over and over. And the interactions between a caddy and a player are fantastic, love that shit, but you know, like it gets to a certain point where it's just too much, and I'm like, eh, I don't really care what happens here. I'm gonna just fast forward to like whole six, and then there's players that are still playing that part three out, yeah, you know.
MattYeah, yeah, but I I enjoyed it.
JoeGreat production, but it's just it's just there's can be fine too, and it was the first time they did it, so it's you know, but as far as it like the internet invitational was done great, and that's definitely not your vibe. Like there was better golf played on uh the YGG than there was Internet Invitational, and I think almost the product shot of 59, Jesus, yeah, and I think that the product of the Internet Invitational was way better, and it was just you know, influencers.
MattWell, I one of the things that I think how the Internet Invitational was better than this was the episodes weren't five hours, uh, it was a weekly thing where it was this week, the next week, and then it kind of built up to it. And the YGT just there was no build-up for me. It was it was golf, they were golfing and they played golf, and then it was over. Yeah, um, there really wasn't a buildup. Uh so the other revelation that I had, and I sent this message to Dan. Um, we played with a guy out at Paiute a couple months back, and this this guy was like asking Dan every time, hey, what do you think here, Dan? What's shot here, Dan? And and it was like to a point we're like, dude, you need to fuck a chill and play your fucking.
JoeYou gotta you better throw him a hundo real close to fucking caddy, bro.
MattYeah, and so I said, I I don't know what why this popped in my head, but we knew he was of the YouTube golf heritage, is that a good word? Um, you know, had the lab, yeah. He he was uh a walking Instagram ad. And yeah, I said to Dan, I go, what if what if he is that way because all he watches is YouTube golf, where the guys interact for the camera, and he thinks that's how golf is played. And so he's used to seeing that. He goes out to the golf court, that's how he's gonna act, that's how he's what he sees. And I was like, I'm really curious if this new age of golfers that haven't grown up with the game like we did, and uh and see, you know, is that is is that what's happening, you know? So it was uh it was an interesting thought.
JoeOh, we got a greenly comment. Uh oh, you really want to know what we talk about, it's a lot on TV. It seems it happens forever. Some players are slow, but things happen so fast out there. I never felt like I had a breather. I mean, yeah, and and yeah, what do you really talk about? You left that part out. What are you really talking about? But there it's an interaction between a player and a caddy, it's different when you're trying to engage an audience on YouTube. Yeah, two different things, two entirely different things, and and you're also thinking about like a player and a caddy where they know their shit, right? And not to an audience, which is very different, right? You want to keep the audience informed on YouTube 100%, but it's a different dynamic, and I think if they figure out that dynamic between the you know the the player and uh the YouTube uh viewer, solid as fuck, it's gonna be good, but they gotta figure that shit out.
MattYeah, it'll take some time, it'll take some time. Yeah, I think they they they draw to a good game.
JeremyHashtag growth game. Let's go. How did you guys like seeing Purcell Farms though? I did.
MattI Joe, Joe was like regretting not hating on it. No, I never hated on it. Oh, you hated on it. You hated it.
JoeNo, I thought it was cool.
MattIt's too big, it's too big.
JoeIt was very it was very big, very big golf course, but um, I don't think I and maybe it's me, it was a long trip. It we went from Georgia, Augusta, Augusta area up to Tennessee, where I played Sweeton's Cove, supposedly, and then went down into Birmingham. And no, I I would love another trip around that track. Um it looked great, it looked really great. And I would love to do a uh a Purcell farm versus fucking Timberline battle because Timberline was a shit ton of fun, and we gotta go play Ross Bridge. Fuck yeah, we do need to play Ross Bridge.
MattThat is definitely on the Yeah, yeah, it was it was fun seeing it on TV.
JoeNo, it was really cool, and I forgot what what was interesting. I text you guys um and I said, I forgot about this hole, I forgot about this hole. You know, like there's there's moments, and shout out tradition golf helping us get out there. Shout out tradition golf. Um, but um there's a lot of lot of spots where I totally forgot where we were. Like, I was like, no, that no, it the par three is next. The par three is next. They happened for like three holes. I'm like, they're gonna play the par three next. And the routing on the front is uh kind of confused me. I I could understand the back a bit better, but what I I want to go, I want another shot at it for sure.
MattWe talked about this as far as like PGA tour coverage, of course. Is I mean, there's a some really, really cool shit at Purcell Farms about how it what it is, how it came to be, the quarry that's out there, what it was used for. I mean, like the the Washington Monument, that all the stone for the Washington Monument came from that quarry, they didn't talk about that. There's all the the coal shale that's all over the place on the railroad tracks.
JoeThat might be something that's missing from the YouTube videos, the the historical asset.
MattThey can really get into instead of saying, like you said, every time they go to that par three, going, Oh, it's 140 downhill, blah blah blah over and over and over again. Let's talk about hey, this is the highest point of the golf course. You can see the quarry over there, you know, it's it and just talk about the there's a ton of history at that place that we come up with.
JoeWell, they do they do so much like science shit on fucking uh um you know uh turf out there, yeah. They they try and figure out the best turf for different environments. I mean, like I would have loved to hear that, but we're not we're also not YouTube golfers, but like that's fucking interesting, you know.
Upcoming Interview with Harry Arnett (Municipal)
MattSo desperate to go on a golf trip. Go on a golf trip, go on a golf trip, golf trip, go on golf trips. Hey, so um tomorrow morning. This is if you're watching on YouTube, it's tomorrow, it'll be tomorrow morning. You're listening to the audio. This has already taken place. Uh, I'm interviewing Harry Arnett, who is the co-founder of Municipal, the Mark Wahlberg brand that which time is being that at weekend. 9 a.m. What time is it? 9 a.m. tomorrow morning. Four. No, yeah. So uh if you're watching this, you have any questions that you want to know about municipal, throw them in the chat. I'll be sure to ask them. Really looking forward to that. Harry used to uh work at Callaway and uh has a long history in the business, and uh really looking forward to chatting with him, finding all about the municipal brand, some maybe behind the scenes stuff that we don't know, and uh you know get us uh foursome with Wahlberg out at uh the summit. Yeah, five me and Jeremy were training today. We played in three hours.
JoeYep, so we're ready. We need to do better. You can't you gotta carry your own bag and run. Run, wally boys, yeah, wally boys.
MattYeah, so uh anybody that's a municipal fan.
Joethat that episode uh let's see i'm gonna i'll i'm gonna try and have it go out friday um so busy week for the show this week had the the exchange golf interview uh this week's show and then an another interview with municipal so some good stuff coming and thank you so much everybody for being here support has been absolutely fantastic so yeah that pipe journey yeah this guy yeah you're fine you're fine or not golf in Dallas golf club every week like you are question can they send me some freebies uh you don't think that's gonna be ads come on we'll find out you have a callaway charlotte maybe he may get one in trade you never know potentially you never know check your local golf shops often maybe you'll find one bush too funny too funny thanks Rob hey send in your side money come on what the hell right Jesus slackers over here I'm sending text messages and emails now gotta get on these guys yeah so bomb that's why it's over that's why it's over guys all because of you and me me I'm at fault too guys yeah gee he's another one he's another one that's been getting the email reminders um I'm the first one to send it after I get the reminder I promise dude my my invoices for the podcast were six deep bro they're quarterly they're quarterly right half a year deep and my they're not quarterly you sure about that are you sure about that I want to give bed some love uh beds hooked us up with some new and I'm actually wearing them right now shut up shorts are outstanding they haven't resolved the pocket the back pocket coming out issue yet but these are very very comfortable very comfortable they did a great job it's a stretchy material outstanding and I told these guys none of you are getting them until my invoices are big ding ding ding ding greenly we're not calloway folks the company man is calloway folks I will take taylor may balls actually shout out beds I've been playing the uh the TP uh tp five pitch I'm liking them how do I donate a dozen TM balls or are we talking donate to for us to give them away yeah Greenly we're not sponsored by Callaway Matt is an employee and you know he might hate it I can run it I'll run it I'll run it raffle giveaway okay hey uh so greenly what we'll do next week actually next week's gonna be crazy I'm not gonna be here jeremy's gonna be calling in from Manila um so Joe and Dan are gonna have the keys to the keys to the the palace um so maybe Greenley if you want to come on you can talk tailor made while I'm gone and and give them away greenly let's do it yeah so yeah so next week some Taylor made golf balls we'll be uh giving away greenle's in deal why don't we get green and beds beds are you down there jump on next week too that could be fun little greenly beds action yeah I don't think they've ever met that'd be cool shout out lumpy all day shout out jollibee shout out jollibee shout out chow king shout out ube yeah that's an unfiltered show let's make that fucking go but you know what this is what I might do this is what I might do bookmark next week's show guys I will not do a damn thing and see if Joe can handle it on his own we'll figure it out we got it right just not gonna do anything no I'm not gonna set up nothing it had been a year oh okay I'll set it up right now see you guys later peace and that was the last time we saw Joe and he would never have heard from again just give the dan's a dan's an electrician he can figure out give yeah give you yeah I got it yeah I got some uh spokan spoke can golf coming up in my life you're gonna drive gamble no no not gamble you're going to spoke can when next uh Sunday oh yeah nice yeah yeah nice up there dude I'm doing a cage this weekend so there's there's so many little good golf courses up there go play circling raven in Idaho go play quarterane but go play black rock go play corner go play cable sands go play Idaho club Idaho club there's so much good over there you should what you should do is cancel your um your uh lifetime fitness membership and just go join a club up there that way we can play with you no rob he knows better than to go to gamble sands without us I would not we will we will kick him off his own podcast yeah I would hey it's our podcast yeah it's it's I wanted to but it it's two and a half hours from Spokane and then playing you know speculating a four hour round of golf and then two hour drive back was just a little bit too much time away from family so we're gonna play some courses there in Spokane so fucking Greenlee golf is expensive as fuck nowadays it's crazy yeah it ain't like it used to be too expensive yeah that's not that's on the list Joe's played chambers you play gold mountain too didn't you joe me and Dan have played chambers and gold mountain yeah yeah yeah go play salish is salish go play salish instead yeah salish is sick yeah so yep first uh first van trip it's very exciting so how long what's the drive up to spoke can 16 hours 16 well we're gonna we'll stop in boise of course see my mom so it's 12 hours to boise and then it's like another five up to spoke can the Albertson's open how far is Sylvie's ranch from Boise Sylvie's is Oregon dog yeah I know but can't you just like isn't it like just over where is Sylvie's ranch it I think it's middle oh Oregon Oregon sorry no no no idaho's up closer to Washington sorry i'm yeah I'm a state away borders Oregon too yeah Idaho that's why oh right idaho yeah but isn't isn't boise like further isn't it like closer to the to Washington state than it is to Oregon yeah closer to Oregon I'm geographically challenged so Boise's very low west okay it's from my mom's house to the Oregon borders like 25 minutes I have a geographic retardation bush which is username to hear about that special oh yeah there it is Michael Bush that's funny all right so uh a task for everybody our our iTunes numbers are dwindling well they're not dwindling they're just stagnant so one of the best ways for you guys to support us without spending any money is to make sure you are following the podcast on iTunes that is what gets us exposure the more people that follow a show and subscribe to the show on iTunes so it's in your feed the more iTunes looks at it and goes hey people are favoring this people are following this maybe we should look at it so that will help us gain some more exposure we thank you so much for that YouTube what everybody's doing with us on YouTube we're absolutely loving it it's been a blast uh we can't wait to continue to see this grow and uh got some got some new shirts on on the website uh making changes the website all the time got our where'd it go oh here it is these will be on the website I'm gonna try and get this done before I head out of town so people can um start ordering these but be aware if these do go on the website they will not ship until I get back into town the following week so don't hate on us for that or I might just wait so we will see all right grassy oh man somebody said they were going to Coyote Moon did I say that yeah uh um jailin that sounds you're gonna love it up there coyote moon is dope yes that's beautiful country up there I didn't watch much of the uh Tahoe event I watched a little bit of it yeah some of it that place looks like some highlights I did that fucking broomstick wedge that Colin Jost was using no broomstick wedge you did not see it you didn't see it the wedge and he was chipping with it yeah it's a broomstick wedge wow like he was chipping like this was he was he anchored no he wasn't anchored can you anchor a wedge is that legal i have a doubt it i have a doubt it oh also home course yes dan tat to fashion yes we have not played there but that was on our list when we went up there i want to play home course so bad that place looks fucking chapman with a new putter he wants a a free grip 26 entries in there right now folks yeah also guys if you want to get into the GIVI we're gonna pull it really soon so if you have not posted a comment you better do it now we're gonna give away a one of 100 Garson grip you can always use code daylight15 at checkout on garsengolf uh com uh it's the leaderboard putter grip one of 100 it's the 2026 major uh series so all you gotta do if you have not leave a comment right now we're gonna pull it very soon and if you're a subscriber of the podcast you can tune in to the after show are we doing one no i got too much to prepare for tomorrow i guess we're not doing i guess we're not doing one no after show this week sorry that's probably good for me because i gotta go do things but yeah we would do it if if if dad would it wasn't dad and we would do one so hey once i get once i get everything caught up in my life we'll be good yeah oh i didn't know you were up there let's go isher hack every hack is going to do yeah tyler he'll make it one day he's grinding he will love it all right here we go hey he's been getting close there you go run it here we go you also got to be present
Grip Giveaway Winner Announcement
Joeto win so stick around unless you're unless you're a subscriber yeah unless you're a premium boy sanchise the guy that wins everything everything look at that player of the year trophy tournaments where you have sanchise shout out garrison i think he's not here anymore oh you there he is he got all right i'll bring that on saturday guy bro this fucking guy hella rigged congratulations rigged way to go sanchise let's see who would have won if he wasn't there just to rub it in let's see who's not getting a grip this is not getting pushed oh dan that's fucked that would have been that's rigged for sure that's I'm sorry is dan or dan are you playing boulder or where were you playing Arroyo this weekend uh dan are you playing he didn't sign up this year oh shit i was gonna bring you something yeah I'll steal it out of his bag on Saturday oh he's in my group yeah so that's funny even better put that right order yeah I feel you it's inventory days Dan I get it i'm i'm really bummed about what's going on with vgn right now i don't know if it's because i said it's ending and so people are just checking out but we we only have 46 players for arroyo which i mean jeremy real quick go look up a tea time uh at like sienna saturday morning see
Low VGN Tournament Turnout & Episode Wrap Up
Joewhat it's going for dude i haven't played sienna in so damn long dude i used to play there like every weekend i'm just curious yeah we used to play there a lot joke yeah for like 75 bucks the entry fee for this tournament is 145 the entry tea entry fee for sienna in a couple weeks is 140 so see what we got here when is sienna i'm doing august 8th yeah you want to know how much it is at arroyo in two weeks yeah 273 dollars that's insane that's crazy 220 to 273 for locals so expensive for locals or is that just rack 220 220 for locals 220 for local there's no that's that's the first detail though they drop after there can't be yeah it's 7 a.m 7 a.m 7 a.m let's see what the 7 a.m here you go dan dan send me a message there you go talk to me a message uh 115 115 but still i mean why not play in a tournament this is this is a tournament with prize money seven skins games it's 7 a.m on a saturday it's gonna be nice uh i looked at for royal and i'm there 180 yeah so um yeah 40 40 this is the first event ever in the five years that we've been doing this that more people are not playing than playing and i'm blaming dan it's all dan's fault we got saying 75 you stop showing up for tournaments and everybody's like fuck this i'm done treadway saying 80 i mean job i work on weekends oh i know i know if i was in vegas i would be there hey road trip road trip four hour drive sienna's not filling up either i think we only got 30 people in sienna just crazy i don't think i don't think it's i don't think it's the end i think it's just like summer summer summer's tough people's tough and summer you know the kids if anybody got kids it's tough but we are staying at the circa this weekend and then i'm going back to san diego in three weeks i'm gonna hit up the gallery again are you gonna play any golf while you're down there or is this family vacation uh i don't know it was hard with with the whole fam so i might i mean because when i win i only played nine holes with um larson so um yeah i'm trying to figure something out i know a lot of the people i know some people out there so when is it when are you going we're going like the second through the fifth i think it was is what it is we're gonna stay in mission beach nice i'd love to i would love to play coronado or balbo yeah go play codwood they got dirt fairways right now but the greens are great do you want me to make a phone call at all for what for golf yeah do I want to call mean and cheese that's fine yeah I would I would I just don't like playing by myself anymore I used to love playing by myself but well I mean I want to play with somebody cool okay awesome people I was gonna say if I were to if I were to get you tea time at the farms do you think somebody cool would show up I would think so I'd be down phil nickelson's down there I don't know if he's busy or not maybe he has to meet up he probably condo your phone to the car girl and say hey sing in a couple hours so I'd be I'd be for sure down yeah um Maddie um I don't know if you saw but uh Bush is saying four four v four at Ross Bridge for the Callaway bag few few comments back did you notice that I I I get this for sure that this four well he did he did make a comment about uh 4v4 at Ross Bridge for the and he and he pays for the flights that's what's really dope what he said I saw it quoted and I'll pay for your price why did I miss that yeah I could have sworn I saw that fine that he probably deleted it flights an Airbnb on me something like that yeah he's sleeping on his deck dog that that's I mean I I this is a great he would do it he would I guarantee you he would do it if you paid for the flights we've we'd never have lost a scramble we're we're no yeah we have not this true scramble that's for sure we we we bring it this is true yeah I oh look at Tyler Tyler wants to join in now too Tyler's like oh I'll fly I'll get out there greenly I would love to go to the kingdom or play the bridges I just you know it's time permitting with because we're going out there with the fam but if I can make it work I would love to go tour the kingdom even if I don't get to play that'd be cool where were we at when we saw when we went to the kingdom where was that at we were in uh was that great waters that was yeah a coney or like lake reynolds yeah it's at a cone yeah the acone course at kingdom he said no I might say flights but you can crash on the ground well yeah you got that you got that UPS money dog you're good you could pay for some flights yeah ups has airplanes come on yeah just give us just give us four cargo tickets four cargo tickets be there next day no probably fragile on my forehead and go out there gonna write a give me a box with wifi and give me a box with wifi and electricity I'll be there oh yeah throw it on a UPS make sure it's got AC though because Joe will be really upset if it's hot and sticky true and a dehumidifier no bugs either no bugs Joe really I I will say after playing those rounds in Palm Spring it was very nice playing golf today with no bugs. Yeah you had bugs in Palm Springs too oh my god it was awful way worse than Nebraska I wish you guys would have seen how the the midges that Trey and I played in that sounded crazy that was like a horror horror film all right uh that'll be it for this week's show thank you so much everybody for tuning in we absolutely love doing this let's see what's he say let's plan a 4v scramble Ross Bridge when it's not too humid for Joe since he's scared that's too humid in Alabama I don't think that exists does it so winter yeah yeah January sometime yeah January 7th on the calendar honestly I'd love to go play Ross Bridge and also get back to Timberline I would love to play Timberline again I would love to go play Cedar Ridge too because Cedar Ridge was an absolute blast and then just go down there and get Ross what's the one the private one that's outside Birmingham the Jack Nicholas shoal Creek should show creek shoal creek would be sick too sick yeah I also want to play fields fields ranch the fields clubs club yeah the fields club that's not that bad because I'm not gonna get to I'm not gonna get to play uh you know Cam Kelly's been on the podcast before he's got his thing going on uh is that where it is fields club yeah it's a fields club okay it's the it's the South Sweetens so um yeah I would I would love to play that course I've heard great things what's the theme this year what's what sweeper's a theme this year it's uh Mary Poppins yeah it's the sweeper Mary Poppins he asked me to send he he texted me yesterday or two days ago and he said like is there anything that you want to send so uh for the auction so if you want to send a grip I told him I could probably send a hat and like a towel and we could maybe send a grip uh he would love to highlight the brand is what he was telling me so I I told him I don't have anything crazy so when is it it's the end of August so it's uh I don't know you hit up the King Collective on Instagram but I think it's like the 29th or what's that weekend uh the end of June it's no Eric not not Fields Ranch Fields yeah I think it's the Fields Club the Fields Club in Fields Ranch in in Texas no uh Georgia Lagrange Georgia Lagrange Georgia I think it's west of Atlanta yeah I think it's August 29th and 30th told him I couldn't make it and I specifically did not plan a golf trip or you know we didn't talk about a golf trip that time but Katie's niece it's her 21st birthday so we're gonna go stay on the strip so fuck can't even plan a golf trip at that time and we're just going to might be going to a little place called wingfoot that weekend so for you gonna go play some wingfoot well you joined lifetime that kind of fits like what lifetime next next you know you're gonna be you're gonna be playing oakmont winged damn yeah next thing you know you're gonna be playing Oakmont working for a cyber security company got a social i got a social membership in oakmont yeah i'm like I'm gonna play wingfoot and they're gonna meet me on the 18th screen and be like never come back yeah thank you for being here never come back fancy boys fancy boys fancy not courtside fancy like greenly but in there in there all right joe wrap this shit up let's get the heck out of here all right guys thank you so much for tuning in to this week's episode of the Chase and Daylight podcast episode 388 absolutely insane make sure you like subscribe comment uh we're here every single week next week dad is not home me and Dan got the keys and we're gonna do something crazy of course um shout out garden use code daylight15 at checkout uh save yourself some money our favorite putter grips in the game uh and if you missed out on the the leaderboard uh major series go get it now if you did not win um but the chase uh this guy gotcha joe gotcha every week every week with this guy god all right thanks everybody we'll see you next week i won't Jeremy might we'll be back next week with another episode
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