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392: Tokyo Travels, Bryson Drama & Sunburned Joe Ends the Show

Mathew Wangrycht & Joe Keith | Golf News Hosts Episode 392

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Welcome back to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast! Jeremy is finally back from his epic trip to the Philippines and Japan, and our good friend Trey steps in to co-host while Joe checks in from a very sunny—and sunburned—vacation in Mission Beach. From wild rules controversies on the pro tour to exploring Tokyo's golf scene, we have a packed show for you this week. 

Episode Highlights:

  • Joe drops in to share his sunburn remedies (beef tallow and methylene blue) and recaps his visits to the Scotty Cameron Gallery and Sunday Golf HQ. Then abruptly ends the show?!?!
  • We discuss the hilarious lack of entries for our bag giveaway and what that means for the future. 
  • Matt recaps his recent non-VGN tournament at Boulder Creek and the lessons learned in competition. 
  • We dive into top golf news, including LIV's return to Bedminster and the newly announced PGA 2028 championship series. 
  • Trey gives his unfiltered thoughts on the Bryson DeChambeau rules drama at The Open Championship. 
  • A deep dive into the current state of YouTube Golf, YGT, and the upcoming four-million-dollar Internet Invitational. 
  • Jeremy shares stories from Tokyo, including navigating the subways, eating fluffy pancakes, and his out-of-character international karaoke debut. 
  • Matt shares a genius pre-round stretching hack involving heated car seats. 
  • We drool over the beautiful new raw Callaway MB irons and talk about the rising popularity of the 7-wood. 
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Intro & Joe’s Sunburned Check-in

Matt

What is up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast. Jeremy's back. Hi, Jeremy.

Jeremy

Hey, it feels like I haven't been here in a long time.

Matt

It's it's been a minute.

Jeremy

It's been a few weeks.

Matt

It's been a few weeks. Welcome back. Uh, and we're Joe is gone this week. He's uh off in San Diego hanging out on the beach with a fam, doing a little uh gallery shopping. So we reached out to our good friend Trey, who hasn't been on in a while, and he's filling in the shoes. Trey, uh golf nerd like us, uh, loves the game, crazy passionate. We were having a little conversation beforehand about uh these new golvers of the game that are obsessed with it, you know. And Trey's like, well, if if they've been playing like a year or a year and a half and they're obsessed, what am I? You know, what what what are we? Yeah, what so that's a good question. No show, what a relief. Oh my goodness, it's already started. Uh yeah, so we're we're fanatics. We're we're crazy, we're silly, we love the game, we're here every week to talk about it. Thank you so much for tuning in. Uh, I do want to make sure everybody is aware of Garson. There, you see him over there in the corner? You see him behind Dan. Jeremy's got it blacked out. We haven't gotten Trey on the Garson wagon yet. That's that's we'll see. We'll see if we can happen one day. One day. Uh, but uh we have a code, Daylight15. If you want to use that code on the website where they do their business, we can say the website, it's not whatnot. So Garsengolf.com, Garson.com, go check them out. Uh, and uh you guys finally replaced Joe. No, not replaced.

SPEAKER_03

Damn, doing them dirty.

Matt

Um, but yeah, uh, go check out their website. They have more than just grips, they've got uh some other things, but they do have a great selection of grips coming. I got a new unreleased one that's gonna be in my mailbox tomorrow coming. Uh, so I'm looking forward to that. And we have these. Oh my what is this? Speaker's the devil. Holy moly, holy rent.

Dan

There he is. Trying to get it better.

Jeremy

Oh my god. Did you sit in the teabag bathtub?

SPEAKER_04

No, but we were at the we were at the farmer's market, and uh this dude had the methylene blue and beef tallow with extra virgin olive oil. He promised me so, but we put it on, and I feel so much better already.

Dan

Nice. Well, all right, yeah. Lobster boys is is for sure.

SPEAKER_04

Lobster boy, good heaven, like uh uh like a Filipino uh sausage right here.

SPEAKER_03

You definitely look like a Longanisa, that's for sure. Longa Nisa Longa Nisa with a beard, and you're not wearing sunscreen.

Matt

What's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_04

I put sunscreen on four or five times.

Dan

Wow, geez, gotta watch the seed oils. Are you sure it wasn't absolutely wasn't like Crisco or something?

SPEAKER_04

Holy shit, it was it was equate brand, so that might be the issue.

Matt

What's what's that uh what's that suntan lotion that they used to put on that coconut Joe's or whatever it was called?

SPEAKER_04

That the coconut joe's what are you talking about?

Matt

The the the bathing oil that the chicks put on to just Hawaiian Tropic Hawaiian Tropic or what did you call it?

SPEAKER_04

Coconut Joe's like a Joe's Coconut Joe's, same as Hawaiian Tropic. Absolutely. Uh well hey, you interrupted my spiel for the grip, so uh yeah, use code Daylight15 and check out at Garsengolf.com. They're not available there, but they're available on Chase Daylight Podcast website. Go get you one. How many are left? We only got like what 40 left?

Matt

We sold seven. We sold seven last week. We had some sales from the show last week. So if you bought one last week, thank you so much. I'm getting them out the next day. I got my package of uh priority mail mailers in, so those will be banging out really fast. Uh, thank you everybody for that. Uh, we really appreciate it. Uh, it's in below in the uh if you're watching live on YouTube right now. If you look down below, you can click on it right now and and buy one. So they're there.

SPEAKER_04

So payment have payment failed order two, and he showed me the putter he's putting it on. It's it's gonna be a killer combo.

Matt

Yeah, yeah. He got those got delivered yesterday. So he he's got them.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he sent me a picture of it.

Matt

Yeah, so uh I'm gonna give this one away tonight.

SPEAKER_04

Ohly, you're gonna give one away.

Matt

It'll come new in the wrapper. This is my display one, so it'll come new, newy boy in the wrapper. So new boys, clingy boy in the wrapper.

SPEAKER_04

So I'm gonna send one to uh Rev Mac at Sunday Golf, also.

Matt

So nice. Yeah, they got you a little hookup.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

Matt

I don't know. What's okay? How long you in the San Diego for?

SPEAKER_04

Uh we leave tomorrow. So the plan is asai bowls in the morning, maybe the beach for a little bit if the lobsterness goes away, and then uh probably drive home. Theo didn't get it bad, Katie got it kind of bad, uh, Quinn got it, but her legs really bad.

Matt

So you and nature just don't get along, dude.

SPEAKER_04

It was and this house has no air conditioning.

Matt

Well, no, you're in the same building on the beach.

SPEAKER_04

We're in an original beach, Mission Beach cottage. I mean, thankfully, the master has yeah, we're on the here. I'm sorry, this is the on the walkway. Yeah, this is the walkway right here. Okay, the beach is right there.

Matt

Oh, nice. I almost moved there to Mission Beach, and me and like three of my friends almost rented a house there on the beach. What up, a costa? Our backyard was looking at the ocean right on the walkway. Uh that's I could sit there and people watch for house.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, dude. It's not, it's literally like 300 feet, you know. And then the bay, the mission bay is like 600 feet, so uh they weren't liking the waves as much, so we went over to the bay and chilled for a while. And the fish tacos at Mission Baja Taco. I've only ate fish tacos the entire time, basically. So yep, uh and uh and the fucking Penshuan Mana fucking tortillas, handmade tortillas.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, can't beat handmade tortillas, bro.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, they're so much better. And one thing, we were in the store and they had flour tortillas that were made in Texas. I'm like, why? Yeah, why yeah, you gotta you got you got you got places all over here. Um, but we did drive by Tory Pines today, and it it had me reminiscing about our trip, which was and actually last.

Matt

That was a fun trip. Yeah, it was two two eagles in a round at uh oh yeah, quarry. That's right. Yeah, I just found that scorecard. That's what made me think of that.

Dan

Those are your first eagles, too, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03

My first, my very eagle, and then I got was that when we went to the on the Tory Pines trip?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. On the way down. Also, I was thinking about when we mean me and Trey came down for the kingdom. We drove by Temecula Creek, uh, and I was like, I think we we stopped at the Freddy's in Victorville, and I was like, damn, I ate there with Trey. You know, it was super cool. Like them the random memories you remember.

SPEAKER_03

I yeah, I remember because I hit that Korean guy on the way to Go Hill. He got so mad.

Jeremy

Still waiting for that lawsuit.

Matt

Yeah, still waiting for it. Your mic's cut now, Joe. That's going on here. Oh, we've lost Joe. Everybody else. Yeah, I can hear you guys. Yeah. Dang it, Joe. What'd you do? There we are. All right, we got you. You're back. Oh, I'm back. Okay. You're back.

SPEAKER_04

Anyway, I don't know. Do you want to you want me to do the recap of what I've done real quick or hold for next week?

Joe Visits Scotty Cameron & Sunday Golf

Matt

Fire away. We got Japan coming up, so everything you're gonna say is gonna pale in comparison. So fire away. No. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yep. So I today, golf related, golf related. I went to Scotty Gallery. I showed up 30 minutes beforehand, and I was eighth in line. Nothing super special available, but I got some stuff coming for the whatnot homies. Um there was new stuff than when I was there last time. Uh, I did get a shirt, but if you listen to the podcast, last time I was there, they did not have my size. I finally got a Scotty shirt. Uh, I do have a pro platinum I use occasionally, so I can wear it, I can wear it. I can wear it. Um, but no, and then we ate at the Mexican spot right down. Uh got some brunch, and it was fire. Henshu and Mana. The tortillas were very good. Um, and then yeah, I stopped on the way back. Uh RevMac, if you guys know RevMac on uh Instagram, super funny dude. Met that dude in person, Sunday Golf. Shout out Sunday Golf. Uh, I swung by, I wasn't sure we were gonna make it work, but a stopped by uh he had a meeting. I think they finished it up real quick, but I saw the Sunday golf corporate headquarters. Um what's so interesting about this area is like a lot of the golf brands are in the same area, right? Like he was like, that's this dude, he used to work for Under Armour, work with Steph Curry on his golf line, that's blah blah blah from Puma Golf, um or Puma Cobra Golf, and they're over here now, and like the stuff that they're doing, like the Sunday golf, like they're super good at the collabs. Um, I saw the Bob Marley joints, the long drink joints. They had a long drink uh den caddy, Jeremy, that you could probably put your long drinks in. Uh just out long drink, use code daylight 15 to check out it, long drink.

Jeremy

Um sugar free.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and daylight15 at sunday golf.com. But uh super cool, man. That dude is as advertised, super nice dude. And uh, but it was cool to finally meet up with him because he's doing his thing on Instagram as well. Super funny guy and super nice. He might be coming to Vegas soon. So, but dude, the the bags, I mean, you because we've only I know you've bought one. You bought one of them when they first came out, Matt.

Matt

Yeah, and you like abandoned the that that smaller one, that El Camino one, that's the leather, the all-weather one. Yeah, dude. If if they had that one size up in that, I I would rock it because it's it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he showed me some of the new colorways that are coming out. Uh the next drop, good colorways. He showed me one that they're scrapping, which is fire. Um he's gonna throw it up on whatnot soon. So if you're a whatnot person that's here, follow Sunday golf on whatnot, super exclusives. But he hooked me up with a bunch of shit and super awesome, dude, super great company.

Matt

So tell him to come on the show.

SPEAKER_04

I told him he's welcome anytime. Well, I told him on whatnot the other day. Uh, we were we were in a quick hurry, I would have told him, but um, he might be coming to Vegas soon.

Matt

So but just thinking about yourself.

SPEAKER_04

Ah, damn it. No, I would dude, we were in and out. I was in there for 10 minutes.

Matt

Excuses are like assholes, everybody's got one.

SPEAKER_04

But I I put a message out there during his last whatnot show. I said, Rev's welcome anytime, and I'm sure he'll probably come on at some point. Uh because he's he's a character, man. If you follow him, just do you guys follow him on Instagram, Rev Mac, Rev underscore Mac? He's doing his thing, man. He's funny, good dude. I will I would love to play golf with it all.

Matt

Joe's never gonna let me live down, not mentioning the podcast when I did my farewell speech at the BG.

SPEAKER_04

So that's what I do. I do it.

Matt

Why can't you? He's out here like talking to brands that and won't even invite him on the podcast.

SPEAKER_04

I already told, I already invited him. Terrible, but he's gonna come on. I'll I'll tell him he could. Yeah, I told him he can come on anytime.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_04

You just gotta figure it out. Awesome.

Matt

Yeah, what else are you doing?

SPEAKER_04

Anything else? Uh no, we're gonna go. We're we're layered in beef tallow and methylene blue right now. So for the sunburns, that's what we did at farmer's market. But uh, I saw e-bowls in the morning and maybe the beach again if the methylene blue hits, and then we're heading back home. And then I gotta get a haircut Thursday morning because I got a meeting at 4 30 p.m.

Matt

He's gonna be gonna be excused for not playing Saturdays. Like, I'm just too sunburned.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no, no. My mom said she could watch the kids, so all right. We'll see. I mean, she she thumbs up my text, so I'm assuming that means good.

Matt

That means whatever you need. Shout out, mom. Shout out, moms. All right, well, Joe, thanks for popping in.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, thank you guys, man. Um, still the show. Shout out amigos on the green. Make sure you're following them on YouTube, uh, killer videos, Trey and Julian. Make sure you use code Daylight15 to check out when you when you're jumping on Garsengolf.com. Uh until next week. Well, I'll catch you later.

Joe

Peace.

Matt

Uh and take two action. Good heavens. This is what happens when you let Joe loose in California.

Dan

His brain is sunburnt, his brain is fried.

Matt

Hopefully, we get people back.

Dan

Absolutely fried. Okay, well, thanks for coming back, Kyle.

Matt

Yeah, thanks for coming back, Kyle. I that I sit there. I go to remove them, and next thing I know the outro is playing. I'm like, what the hell is and I can't stop it. So yeah, thanks for coming back if you come back. We'll we'll just let that live in infamy.

Dan

It's that never happened.

Matt

That never happened. What are you talking about? No, just live. We'll just edit that out. Oh, anyways. Welcome back to the show. We'll kind of pick up where we left off. This actually, you know what? I gotta start the giveaway tool over because um let's see. There we go. Hey, well, this is this is navy, so you're okay. Yeah. I I I bought this a size small at Landman for the future, and I can wear it now. So yeah, nice. So uh this is what we're giving away tonight. One of the chasing daylight Garson collaboration grips. So this is the quad tour uh NT, which stands for non-tapered. It is flat all the way through, does not taper at the end. Game this on your favorite putter. They're also available down in the store right now. There's a link below. It's probably not there anymore. God damn it, Joe. Anyways, you can get them at the chasing daylightpodcast.com website. If you scroll down to the footer, scroll down to the footer, you can say, Oh, I'll stay here. Oh god, can we ban that guy? Good lord, who knows what he's gonna do from there? Kick him, J. Go down, go down to the footer on the page, you'll see CDP Pro Shop, and it's the item is listed there. So get him while you can. There's only 33 left. So, and thank you to those of you who have bought. All right, so uh a couple things we're gonna talk about tonight.

SPEAKER_03

What are you hitting?

Matt

I hit sorry, yeah. Oh, he he doesn't even want to be here, he wants to be on his phone. Sorry Lord, no, you're good. Um, all right, so a couple things I want to discuss uh that we we can talk about

The Bag Giveaway Bust

Matt

for the show. Our bag giveaway is officially a bust. I I Joe came up with a great idea. I thought it was fantastic. Everybody that has commented thought it was fantastic. We've had three submissions. Three. It's like I can't believe nobody wants a bag. Everyone has pristine golf bags, everybody's got pristine golf bags. So um I think if I'm gonna try to do one more little promotion on it, and if we don't get anybody, then we're gonna draw a name, screw the bracketing and have people voting because it's it's a bust, it's officially a bust.

SPEAKER_03

I'll say this outside of seeing it on Chasing Daylight podcast, like I didn't, I didn't I totally forgot about it. Yeah, like if I didn't, like, and that's it's and it's tough. I don't know if that's something that can be promoted or whatever, but I do remember seeing it, but like I it's not something that I've seen, you know, like every day or something like that. Yeah, I didn't want to pop up in front of me.

Matt

So you know, I mean Instagram to to do the ads, you have to do it from your laptop because you do it from your phone, then Apple's like, hi, we're gonna take 50% of your money. So I just hate paying for promotions like that. Um, you know, I just thought it would I thought it would be cool just to have, you know, hey, we're giving away a free bag. If you got a shitty one, send us a photo, tag us, and you may win. Wanted it to go to somebody that wants it, that needs it, not just wants it to flip it. So problem is we all have ADHD.

Dan

Let's do it for the 400th episode.

Matt

The 400th episode? Same for that.

Dan

Yeah, I mean, it builds up to you know, we can think of something. We could think of something to do to qualify people to get him into the drawing for the 400th episode. Okay, but what about the bag, but we'll figure out something.

Matt

Okay, we'll figure something. Okay. I I still think we gotta give to the people that did what they we asked them to do.

Dan

Sure, we can we can hook them with up something, the three people that actually care. Yeah, that actually like thank you for thank you, those three people. Thank you, Tracy and Chris.

Jeremy

I'm sorry about the condition of your bag, too, by the way.

Matt

Yeah. Well, I told I told Tracy in his comment, I was like, I think you're gonna have to game that in order for me to see that that's your bag. And he did. He did.

Dan

So that was a pretty bad thing.

Matt

Yeah. Uh so yeah, we'll we'll pick somebody soon for that. Um, Jeremy is back from the Philippines and Japan, so we're gonna be talking about that.

Matt’s Tournament Play & Boulder Creek Rough

Matt

Uh, I played in a non-VGN golf tournament. You did. And I didn't play great. It happens. I actually I I played pretty good. I just had like really couple really that that took me out. So um yeah, I I was in so on nine on Desert Hawk, you know, you got the lake on the right, and you know, uh the ball was flying, but I still didn't want to. I was I was only like three over, I think, so I didn't want to push it. Um hit a great T shot, just rolled through, it was just in the just like two inches into the rough, and I had a palm tree blocking the flag. I'm like, there's room out to the right, I don't want to risk it, so I aimed really out to the right and shut the face crazy hard. And I'm like, I'm just gonna like hit a lazy draw, you know, hook a draw ball in there. And that rough just took that club face and opened it wide up, and I airmailed it into the hillside.

Jeremy

There's rough, there's rough at Boulder Creek.

Matt

Well, that that sticky Bermuda spongy wild horse shit that's is in some areas, not everywhere.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you it it's in a couple spots, but but through the fair through the fairway on nine, it's definitely there.

Matt

Yeah, it's that shit, it's nasty. So uh, and then we got the VGN at Siena this weekend. Um, yeah, Kyle. Kyle won his flight and he opened up with an eight.

Joe

Wow.

Matt

Yeah, him and him and Johnny, Johnny Paschales uh had a seven-hole playoff. It went seven holes. Yeah. So we were sitting around waiting for him, and I sent Kyle a message. I'm like, um, are you just guys trying to get a free round of golf? What the hell's going on? You know, seven playoff holes.

Jeremy

So the fact that they do a playoff is cool.

Matt

Yeah, well, it's it's if the course is gonna allow it, you know. There was it was a hundred and it was 118 degrees, and the course was empty. So yeah, you can do it. But on a nice, beautiful fall day on a Saturday, it's not happening. Is it a sudden death playoff? Yeah, seven holes.

Dan

Wow.

Matt

Seven holes. Good job. Uh, so then our uh Google Gemini asking what's going on in the golf world top news stories. Uh, these were the top five. Uh, the PGA unveiled their 2028 championship series, giving some of the courses a go ahead. Uh, Arnold Palmer at Bay Hill course, that's gonna be in it, as well as the stadium course at uh Scotts Hill, that'll be in it. And they're talking, was it Colorado, maybe Denver area for another one? And uh yeah, so they're finally starting to release some of the the places that are gonna be hosting events, so keep

Top Golf News & LIV Updates

Matt

your eyes out for that. Uh Thor Bjornsen, he got his first PGA tour win, so congrats to him for that. Uh the win of championship is the final event of the year, so we're gearing up for the FedEx Cup playoffs. Uh, this was kind of a cool story. I it was a head of live story, so I thought it was kind of neat. But uh speed golf champion James Hardy shot a 73 in Temecula in 41 minutes.

Dan

Fucking hey, wow, that's pretty good, right?

Matt

That's fast. Yeah, that's fast. And I don't know what the yardages was, but I'm that's that's pretty freaking amazing. Yeah. And uh live golf news, you know, it's always always gonna be in the top five stories. Always somewhat Dan shared something that you know, John Rom maybe owed 150 million dollars. Um, but they are headed back to uh Bedminster um to play golf this weekend. So uh if you're a live golf fanboy, watch it while you can. Watch it while you can. Because I have a feeling it ain't gonna be around next year. I wonder if they're giving IOUs. Just my gut. Yeah, they're just as good. Hey John, um cash. You know really a lot of money, but you ever want to play golf in Dubai, just let us know. Yeah, you're good at any course in the game.

SPEAKER_03

We got you like just just give me a wing in one of those Sheikh's palaces and a country club, you know, a membership with a plane, and we'll be good to go.

Matt

You want to you want to rent a Volvo? We gotcha, buddy. We got you. You know, we gotcha. It'll be it'll be interesting to see what happens. All right. Trey, you when I saw you, where were we? Was that at Arroyo? You're like, oh my god, I want to come on the pod because I want to talk about Bryson. Oh, this is this is going back to the the US Open, or it was the US Open, right? The people are you talking about the British Open or the Open Championship? Oh, the British Open when he got penalized, yeah. The the Open Championship.

Bryson DeChambeau’s Open Championship Controversy

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, uh, when he threw his fit. Oh man, uh you know, here's my thought, and this is coming from a golfer, not anything else. Is especially in tournament play, and I've heard this in many interviews and many podcasts over the years, and I'm and I don't play in tournaments that necessarily have a gallery on every hole to look for a ball and all this other shit. Like I though tournaments I play in, they don't have any of that. So this is just coming from the golfer and me. And the crazy thing is, is like in any professional sport, like you bend the rules to your advantage. And I don't know what his motive is with that. He was just probably trying to clear away to hit his golf ball, but at the same time, like the only angles that I saw you know, to say that he did all that stomping around and all of that without intent of improving anything, would I'm not saying he's a liar, but you know, I think he tried to, I would say he tried to get away with it. Maybe he got caught by RNA that was around there or somebody else. I I don't know, but you know, I believe that especially in that kind of environment as professionals in any sport, I mean hell, Patriots were deflating footballs. Whether you believe that or not is a whole nother conversation and doesn't really matter anymore. But you know, shit like that. Like, you know, tennis players loosen up their racket strings or whatever it happens to be. So, like, I think you you know, each professional sport has rules, and you try to bend it as much as you can till you get away with the rule or you get penalized for it. Like, that's just you know, it's like like trying to trying to a defensive end trying to hop the hop the line, you know, as the quarterback's hiking the ball kind of shit. So like that's kind of how I feel about it. I know the Bryson haters of the world had their field day with it, and then obviously the you know, the the live players here, you know, the live diehard guys had their way with it. And is there a is one side right or wrong? Not really. I mean, it's he he got a two-stroke penalty, and you move on, like it happens. He got caught whether he was trying to do it or not, doesn't really matter. So I just that's kind of how I felt about it.

Matt

I just take your penalty and move on. Don't don't throw a fucking fit, don't go back out there with the rules officials and try and explain yourself. Don't ask to get Trump on the phone. Don't don't wait. Was that was that a thing? I don't know. I just really a thing. I it there was reports saying that he requested to talk to the president to I mean who knows who knows.

SPEAKER_03

But you know, then a tight. I definitely think what I definitely think what Rory said about I you know, I heard it like two or three times, his little snippet about you know Bryson and stuff, like one that you know, as a champion golfer, especially one that is a former champion golfer of the year. I mean, you gotta you gotta PR that answer, you know, you gotta PR that answer to where it's kind of goes around it instead of straight through. You know, he went straight through it. I get he has malice towards the guy who doesn't like him, but like look, like keep those comments in the locker room kind of shit, unless Netflix is filming in there.

Matt

Um they could have been, you never know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so uh you know, it's it's certainly made for great drama. Brandel Chambly had his loved his spotlight when you know regarding all of that. However, as a golfer, if you you know, if you're in a tournament and you try to bend the rules to your certain way and you get away with it, great. If you don't, then got paid. Two-stroke penalty or one stroke penalty, whatever. Like it's golf. You take the penalty and keep moving.

Matt

Yeah, I uh it's in with this day and age to the way golf is and the way social media is. You wonder how much of it he's going. Let's see how many views, you know. Yeah, it's it, and that may not have been his intent whatsoever, but you gotta think somewhere back here, he may have been going, This is a golden opportunity to get a lot of clicks.

SPEAKER_03

Completely agree. And I am not I I a hundred percent am on board with that answer, and I think it I think with that mixture with can I get away with it, with also at the same like, I don't think this is a penalty mindset. I think all of that was kind of rumbling up there, and you know, he kind of whatever decision the decision that he made exactly controversial gets views, and whatever decision he made, he made with the intent with all of three of those, I believe, in mind. Yeah, and you know, you can kind of weigh whichever one you think is more important, I guess, but um it's certainly made for some interesting news. And the crazy thing is, is I don't like when shit like that happens because then you get a guy like a Ryan Fox that wins a tournament, and it's almost like that that win, and he got his spotlight, which is fantastic, but at the same time, there was still like is he is that win playing second fiddle to all this controversy, like which is which it's totally terrible, and a guy like Ryan Fox who you know plays the game at a different pace compared to all choose all right now, Jeremy. By the way, that's all to all compared to um the rest of the PGA tour, like it's just how he is. And I think Matthew Fitzpatrick's the same way, like Matthew Fitzpatrick, after the you know his playing partner hits, he's ready to hit. Like all of the all of the pre-shot routine stuff, all of the yardage and this, that, and the other, like by the time he's made that decision his playing partner's ball has landed and he's ready to hit, like like that that right there, and that that right there is the definition of playing faster golf. Yeah, being ready, and it's not you know, it's not so much of it's not so much of playing golf in three and a half hours or whatever. It's like you don't need to watch the ball stop from your playing partner to then for you to go through your whole process and then hit the ball and have everybody, ooh, ah, oh shit, you know, like let's that's that's part of like part of the the pace and and keeping up and all that. Like I mean, the four of us have played a lot of golf together, and you know, I would say if no one's in front of us, we could play in 340, 345, something like that, because no problem. We you know, we do we've played a lot of golf together. We have you know, we kind of know the rhythm of how we all play, but at the same time, like we kind of know like if Dan's hitting and I'm next, like I'll get my yardage, I'll be ready to go, kind of pick the shot I want, and then he hits the ball. I watch it for you know till it lands, and then when it lands, like I'm almost like walking into my ball, kind of shit. Like, that's for the people that are watching that are upset when people say play fast, that's what it means to play fast. Like, you're not do all your pre-shot routine, so by the time that you're ready to hit, like you're the only thing you have to do is hit the ball, not get the pick the club, all that playing fast doesn't mean change your game and make shortcuts, it just means play your game more ready.

Matt

Yep, yeah, so hey Trey, I got a question for you. And this goes back to the bryson, this goes back to the bryton drama, YouTube-ish kind of okay. Um so you guys had a video recently that went kind of crazy, and and that you told me that that was just running camera, and you're like, I had this 12-minute clip, let me check and see what's on it. And you found that clip, and if anybody hasn't seen it, go to the amigos on the green channel. It's it's fucking hilarious. Yeah, it's absolutely hilarious, but that was like real moment. That wasn't oh yeah, it wasn't scripted, it wasn't fabricated, it was that actually happened, and I think that resonates so much more with you know fabricated content. So have after had that happen, let me try that again in English. After that happened, and you guys experienced that craziness with that video, has it made you go we just need to be ourselves more?

The State of YouTube Golf & The Internet Invitational

Matt

We just need to just film and just have fun and stop trying to create and just create.

SPEAKER_03

Great question. Yes, it has. And part of this content creation journey, especially in the golf space, and Ross is helping us with this a little bit as well, because it's the golf side of things for you know, for me and Julian, not an issue at all. But at the same time, the people that we know, they know our personality on the golf course. But for me specifically, like when I try to manufacture that, I don't like how it comes across. Like I don't like I don't like that it's uh not natural, like it's unnatural. And so a lot of like even now, I think a lot of times it's just more of just kind of keeping the camera rolling, and like even uh that video you just talked about, like I forgot the camera was on, and it just you know that happen that happened to be filming, and I didn't even know that until that moment when I fast forwarded all the way through 10, 11 minutes of that video. So I would say I would say it seems like to me, because Julian watches a lot more YouTube golf than I do, but it seems like to me in the YouTube golf world that it's like I may have this number skewed, but from my point of view, it's almost like 75 personality and behind the stuff, and then 25 golf. And I hope the internet invitational gets a little bit more golf involved, because that's what's bringing us all together, like that's what's creating all of this stuff is the golf, obviously, a lot of the personality as well. But at the same time, like let's see some golf, let's see if these people can ball, yeah, like for real. Like, if you if you if you mess up or whatever, that's golf, like that's part of it, you know. I don't I don't know how this whole internet invitational is gonna work with everybody having different handicaps and shit. That's not my purview to figure out, but yeah, I would say going back. Oh, sorry, going back to what you originally asked is like you what we're trying to focus on now is is how much of our content can just be supernatural, super just us being us without the acting side of things.

Matt

Yeah, so yes, it's hard, it's it's hard, it's it's a challenge. I was I was watching uh that's unfortunate Joe. The People's League. That that the the other YGT or whatever? No, no, not YGT, it's it's uh the the People's League. It's uh is that what it's called, Trey? Do you remember? Anyway, it's it's another league where they had teams, um, and a lot of the guys from uh YGT are on on Teams, and uh so they played uh I can't remember where they were playing, um it looked like uh like Tahoe or something. And uh oh, the last one I think was French. Yeah, and uh I was I was watching it and it was like they I think they did a better job with what they were putting out there as far as the golf goes. The production was nowhere near as good as YGT. I mean the YGT production was outstanding. And oh, I let me officially say this Mike had beautiful golf courses. Whatever I said, he said, he didn't say. So I apologize there. I said it, I said it openly and in public. He said I almost got one out last show, but there we go. Yeah, I'm sorry for putting words in your production of YGT was outstanding, absolutely top shelf. It was outstanding. The People's League, not as good, but I think the golf and what was going on was a little bit better. Um, there wasn't so much babble, there wasn't so much try to build it up to something that it's not.

SPEAKER_03

Um, I yeah, it's still tough watch for me, but you know, it I will say this, and I think this time around with Internet Inventational, maybe next YGT, I pay a little bit more attention. Uh, but at the same time, I would love to see because I don't know the format of the internet invitational to a T, like I don't know how they're doing it. My thought would be is if they're really you know, if four million dollars is really on the line, like let's see what Claire or Big John or Evan Thompson, you know, these people let's see, let's see if they can roll the rock when they got a quarter million dollars on the line. Yeah, you know, I mean that's I've never had a put for when is that happening dollars? When is that happening in the internet invitational? I think September sometime it's usually like I think right after Labor Day, or maybe but just before it, something like that. I can't remember. I think it's the weekend after Labor Day, but like I would love to see if the I mean if there's four million dollars on the line, I would love to see if these people like if you gotta hit a fairway, if you gotta be in the fairway for this hole for a million, you know, because a million dollars is on the line. Like if you're blood, you know, I mean that shit's gotta I want to see if you know I want to see if you're freaking uh I know Wesley's pay for that kind of money, but I want to see if you know if your your big Johns or your pages and all that can step up to the plate when a million dollars is on the line, like that. Like I'll tune in for something like that. Like different games. I mean, that's that that's golf right there. And that's what I would love to see.

Matt

And hopefully we get the opportunity to the guy that run the show earlier is chiming in. I think it's gonna ruin the mystic a bit.

SPEAKER_03

Where I don't even know where it is this year. Is this back at uh back at uh top of the rock again? Or is it no idea? But that's kind of where I'm I'm at with a lot of it is like if you want drama, then create some drama, but I want to see if someone can make a butt when it really counts. But I'm also here for the golf. Like, I mean, yeah.

Matt

The golf. Here for the golf. Jeremy was gone, he didn't play any golf. Where were

Jeremy’s Epic Trip to Tokyo & The Philippines

Matt

you at, Jeremy?

Jeremy

I was in uh the Philippines and Japan. But I did do a trial for YouTube Premium because I knew I wasn't gonna be able to sleep on the flights and downloaded all my favorite YouTube golf videos, okay, including Amigos on the Green and our podcast. Thank you, sir. I watched all those, but yeah, I mean, going back to the I'll go, I'll do my trip in a second, but I feel like there's sort of like not clicks, but kind of like levels to the YouTube golf thing. There's like the people that play really good golf and like engage maybe people like us showing courses. Like I feel like Brian Bros and Grant, when they do their major series, that's something I very much enjoy because you get to see the courses, they're playing good golf, but then some of the good, good videos where they're doing challenges and things like that. I have no desire to watch any of that stuff. Some people find that entertaining, some people want really good golf or course coverage. I think YGT did a pretty good job of showing uh Purcell Farms, which that was new to me, so I think that was cool. The golf was good, but it's all so new, too. Like, there's just different different strokes for different folks, really. I mean, if you're in it for the entertainment, you have Bob the Sports and that type of stuff. If you want the good players and you know drama, then Brad Dahlke and Wesley and all those guys, that's who you want to watch to for the good golf. But it's really it's it's interesting, like when they bring all those people together into one, it's kind of like you have your elite players, and then you have some that are really good players, but no one's heard much about them. Or I don't know. I think that's what's cool about YouTube is they kind of can have both sides of it in one event. So yeah, yeah, but uh anyway.

Matt

All right, let's talk about the Philippines. Yeah, so Trey, Trey, and you have been there recently. That's that's crazy.

Jeremy

Trey, you went end of last year, right? Yeah, I was there October, November. Okay, yeah, and I had my wife is from there, so we she has a lot of family, so we try to go out there often, but she's been more recently than I have, and so I had last time I was there was 2019. But yeah, we were there, it's it was an amazing time. We went to we usually try to go to another country there while we're usually in the middle of the Philippines trip or beginning or end. This time we did Tokyo, which was our first time in Japan, and that place you hear everyone that's been there, they love to tell you that they've been to Japan. There they tell you about Tokyo and how you need to go there. And I 100% like if you haven't been to Tokyo or Japan, you have to go there, it's just so different. Um, didn't play golf, visited a couple golf stores, went to the Divot uh Divot Shop where Joe is very familiar with the Divot, but it's the they sell a lot of um vintage gear, some of their own, their anti-country club line. They sell there. Unfortunately, I got there a little late, so I wasn't able to browse too much, but I did get a shirt. But yeah, the divot was sick. Um, went to another partner's golf, it's right in the city area where we stayed, called in uh Shinjuku. That place was cool, a lot of Japanese spec clubs, all the Bridgestones, Mizunos, there was miras. Yeah, so much next gen. I think that's the hot brand right now in Japan. Um, but yeah, it was cool. Like you could tell, and there seriously, when you look at the maps, which I was doing constantly there. I was lost every single moment. You see so many driving ranges, and they're sim they're sim lounges everywhere. Like every building has a sim lounge in it. So they're crazy about golf. You see Maulbon here everywhere on the street. We we went to the Maulbon store in um outside Manila, Metro Manila, which was really cool. I was hoping to get some like something that was Philippines related, but it all sells out instantly, so they didn't have anything that wasn't unique. So I didn't end up getting anything. Um, but yeah, it's Japan, like you see golf stuff everywhere. There's Mizuno signs with golfers on it. There's Uniqlo has Adam Scott everywhere. He's got his own Uniqlo, and there's literally Uniqlo stores on every corner.

Matt

It's a very underrated clothing brand.

Jeremy

It is. We shopped there, we spent hundreds of tax-free dollars while we were there at Uniqlo. We got all the boys' school clothes at Uniqlo, but it was it was a great experience. I wish I would have done more golf shopping or at least played golf, but I was a little nervous to take my clubs. I'm not as brave as Trey was when he went. But I think next time we go to Japan, I'll for sure bring my clubs because it's just it's so different there. It's just so it's it's nice when you get to go out of the country to a place like that and see how things are in a different place. And I realize you go there, you're on vacation, you're not living real life, but seeing little things that you're like, man, I wish it was like that in America, or I wish the people were nice. Like, as as soon as we landed, like you literally encounter the worst people ever in customs and immigration and the airport. It's like, dude, you're the first rude person I've seen for weeks. Like, can't we just be nice and act like act like the Japanese or whatever? But it's like there's so many little things, which I think is valuable. That's why we wanted to take our two kids so they can see, like, have some culture and see where your mother's from and see a new country that none of us knew what we were doing, or knew how to get around, or knew Japanese.

Matt

Um, so a lot of the European countries, you know, I mean, like you get into France and it's a lot of only French, you know. But a lot of the like close to England and London and all those places, you know, there's a lot of people that speak fluently. It's really common for European nations to have, you know, be very multilingual. Um, but Japan, not so much, not as much. It's very much Japan. How was that like getting around? Because that that's one of the fears that I have is going to a place where I have no idea what any of the signs say, I have no idea what anybody is saying, and I have no idea what the menu is.

Jeremy

So the trains, I was scared shitless of using the trains because that's they are literally everywhere. Like you think New York's subway is complicated. Try doing it where the station is like a million square feet underground and it connects to 40 different other stations, and it's all in Japanese.

Matt

Japanese, yeah.

Jeremy

But they do have they do a good job of like having the English and and stuff like that. And honestly, I I only ran into one or two people that couldn't help point me in the right direction. Most of them speak enough English because there's so many tourists, yeah. They know just enough to kind of give you to help you, but and also Google Maps is a savior. Google Maps is incredible in Japan. Hold up your phone. I did that a few times. I'm like, where is this? And they're like, I mean, they'll go out of their way to be helpful, like they'll literally walk you to where you need to go just to make sure you get there. And that happened on the train stations a few times.

Matt

The buses and subways in New York with the app, it's incredible. Like, oh, there's a train coming in five minutes. You know, it's it's always accurate.

Jeremy

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Did uh did you go to 7-Eleven?

Jeremy

Well, every single day, like at least twice a day. 7-Eleven, Family Mart, um, Lawson.

SPEAKER_03

It was uh this convenience tour in Japan. Did you go?

Jeremy

Oh, yeah, every day. That's we ate, we got mochi there every day. We got coffee, we got water, we got everything. I bought the wrong thing several times, thinking it was water, and it was like clear Gatorade.

Matt

And so yeah, it was how how was the coffee?

Jeremy

Was it good? A lot of Americanos. Um, the thing is they at Starbucks, they we went to Starbucks like every day too, but they have the they have the menu right out in front of you in like Korean, Chinese, English, Japanese, so you can see what you're ordering, and you just basically point. Um, but they'll yeah, coffee was fine. They don't have heavy cream over there or half and half that I could find, it's always just milk. So I order my coffee usually with a couple splashes of heavy cream or half and half, and that really wasn't an option there. So I used Google Translate to figure it out, and uh yeah, they just don't have it there.

Matt

But what the hell is that?

Jeremy

Yeah, you know, how are your fluffy pancakes? Dude, fluffy pancakes. So there is a place here in Vegas that you can get them. Oh, really? I hadn't, I will probably sometime in the future, but the fluffy pancakes. So I thought they were the same as normal pancakes, like bready, like you just think it's a thick bread, but it's a little more fluffy. It is not, it's like mousse, but it tastes exactly like a pancake. Oh man, it's not like eggy or anything, it's like just like a light mousy cake texture type of thing. Yeah, it's like a mousy cake, and it is like they just like golden brown the top and bottom, and then stack them. It is so good.

Dan

Nice, dude.

Jeremy

Wow. Did you have one of those runny omelets? Yep, had that. Um katsu curry is my favorite Japanese dish. So I had that a few times. The fried chicken, good. Of course, we had ramen at some of those little side street alley shops that was like an eight-seat restaurant we ate there. Um dude, it's just like it's crazy like how organized that place is. I mean, it's the biggest city in the world, but it's crazy how efficient and how ever how nice everything is. It's so clean. Like, if you if they changed out all the signs to English, it would you'd think you're in America. Like the I mean, some of the things, but it's just so like they I've been I've been talking to Joy about this. What's the difference between Americans and Japanese? And it's like in America, we're very individualistic, like we're super independent. There, it's all about like community, and like they do things for the better of the community. Here it's kind of like we do it what's best for us, and I think that's why it works, but there's a lot of little things about Japan that I liked and I missed. Like, I was kind of sad when I was at home thinking, like, man, I really want to just order go to the restaurant and order something how I want it, and it comes in two minutes, and then I don't have to tip them after.

Matt

But it's all good, it was amazing. Did you go to that Japanese garden that was across from where you were staying?

Jeremy

Uh, we did go to the park there. Uh, we went to the oldest Buddhist temple in Japan, which is kind of just north of like downtown Tokyo. That was cool, but it was it's a little touristy now.

Matt

Um it didn't really feel quiet. It's massive, it's massive people doing fucking TikTok dances and shit out there.

Jeremy

There was how prominent.

SPEAKER_03

How prominent was the mount was Mount Fuji?

Jeremy

We weren't able to see it. It was cloudy pretty much the whole time, and it was so hot. Like, I was not ready for that heat. I mean, come from here, it was hot when we left. I think it got really hot while we were gone. But yeah, Philippines was super humid as usual, like 85 90 degrees humidity was like 80 to 90 percent every single day. Japan was like a hundred degrees and humid, which I didn't know it got like that, and usually it doesn't. But a couple of the people I talked to said just over the last couple of years it's been pretty hot in summer. But wow, that's wild.

Dan

It was very hot in Japan. Yeah, sounds miserable.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, and you're and your flight from Japan was direct back to like Vegas, or did you stop? Uh no, it was oh no, it was LA. That's right, that's right.

Jeremy

Yeah, yeah. We flew into LA and had a seven-hour layover in LA, so we ended up just renting a car and driving home because I was we were very done with airports at that point, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, four-hour drive sounds a lot better than a seven-hour layover.

Jeremy

And uh, when we went through Baker, it was 124 degrees. Yep, the world in the car, it was insane, and I was kind of scared about getting stranded. You always are in the summer during that stretch, but that baker grave can terrify you away. Yeah, but yeah, if you haven't been to China to China, if you haven't been to Japan or Asia, you definitely have to. Um, Philippines is amazing. So you guys are going back. Oh, yeah, we're going back. Sure.

SPEAKER_03

So do you think do you think that uh Japan could be? I mean, I know you were just kind of like in a certain area with Tokyo and stuff, but do you feel that after even just your short time there that it could be you know organized with golf courses? Like it could be like a golf trip kind of place because you know, I I've obviously we've all seen the videos, but you know, typically here in America or any, you know, if we go somewhere else, like we would drive, you know, a couple hours to one place, but sometimes you know all the courses are in one spot. So I didn't know like if that could. I mean, I'm sure it definitely is a possibility, but I didn't know if you thought that from your point of view.

Jeremy

Um, there are pockets of golf resorts, I think. There I was trying to watch as we were flying in and out of there. Saw a lot of golf courses. I didn't really see any in Tokyo. I think there are some. Uh, but I know when Cyrus has been, he posts those videos of him staying at those resorts, and it's like you could literally just go there and play five or six different courses at the same place. Yeah, so it's definitely possible. I I think it would be an amazing golf trip, golf trip, golf trip, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, getting to Asia, at least when I when I went to the Philippines, getting to Asia from the West Coast is certainly a lot easier than the East Coast because you got to fly out of like Denver or Atlanta or or New York, and you're going. That's I mean, that's 15 to 17 hour flight, versus here it's 12.

Jeremy

Yeah, it was 10 hours from Tokyo to LA, yeah, which is completely fine, like it's manageable. The one going there, I think our flight was we went Vegas to San Francisco to Manila, which I think was 14 hours. That one's a little rough, but 10 hours still horrible, but with all my downloaded videos, it was fine.

Matt

I would seriously have to get some doctor's orders for an injectable knockout control.

Jeremy

I say that every time I'm like, I think I need some Xanax or something for the flight, and I never do it, but Xanax don't work on planes for me either.

Dan

Yeah, two Xanax and a couple of drinks, and just woke up in Japan. Two Xanax, two whiskey. See you later. See you later.

SPEAKER_03

I took uh I took an edible before my flight to the from San Francisco to the Philippines, and um I think I slept for like 30 to 45 minutes right when we took off. And then once I woke up from that, every time I tried to go back to sleep, within five minutes of trying to sleep, there was just like enough, like a like enough jolt in the plane to where I'm like, all right, let me just watch some movies, and you know, 13 hours later you watch four movies that you didn't see in the theater and had three meals.

Matt

Yeah, my legs hurt thinking about that.

Dan

Do you did you travel at like at least like first class or upgraded class at least, Jeremy?

Jeremy

Or do you know I would love to do that? I've never fled, I think I flew usually. It's like the upgraded economy, like comfort plus or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when we we had uh the two boys with us, and it was like we probably need a sit together. I don't want to be the guy that's like upgraded my seat and my family's like back there somewhere. So I think I upgraded my seat on the flight home, but then they were next to me in the across the aisle, so I had leg room, and they were they didn't, um, but they're small, so yeah. Um yeah, I can share a seat. There's still kids, exactly. Yeah, I saw your seat. Going there, we flew all four in the middle. Yeah, we all sat in the four seats in the middle of the plane on our way there, and it was it was just me being slept on the whole time, yeah. So it's it's fine, it's it's whatever, but it's it's definitely I hate flying, and it's kind of like a mental cluster the whole time because I can't sleep. How many whiskeys did you have? I didn't have any. Oof, good for you. So yeah, it's cool, but but yeah, Joe, I did not go to the gallery. I wanted to, but it was three and a half hours from Tokyo, and then we thought about renting a car, but I needed an international driver's license to do it, and I didn't have enough time to get it. So next time for sure, because it looks like it looks pretty sick, and it's at a golf course right on the coast on the south coast of I don't know the name of the island, but yeah, I need to get there.

SPEAKER_03

One of those. One of those boys' trip, a boys' trip there for a golf trip would be I mean, where we would have a day like a non-golf day where we just went and just did whatever we wanted, just kind of go around towns. Like I know they have a train system similar to that of you know of Europe where you can hop to different cities and stuff, and I think that'd be that'd be pretty cool to kind of do that on on that kind of trip.

Matt

Yep, sure. Bullet train and their trains aren't slow. No, it's it's not an Amtrak.

Dan

Yeah, no, no, it's gone 200 miles an hour. Maglev trains.

Jeremy

Did you go on one of those bullet trains? We didn't ride, we rode on a pretty fast train from the airport to Tokyo because we flew into Narita, which is like an hour and a half east of Tokyo. So we rode a pretty quick train there, but it wasn't a bullet train, unfortunately, so it still took an hour.

Matt

Yeah, but yeah, that's crazy.

Jeremy

Very cool place.

Matt

Thank you for telling us about your stories. And thank your wife or me for sharing all the stuff because I know you're not a big social media guy, so you guys are gone somewhere.

Jeremy

Yeah, we we vicariously live through Joy's Instagram while you're really good at documenting stuff like that, and I am absolutely terrible.

Dan

Yeah, I saw I saw some shit that I never thought I'd see out of you.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the funny oh, yeah, that is very true.

Jeremy’s International Karaoke Debut

Jeremy

I am a karaoke star. Yes, you are. You are an international rock star.

SPEAKER_03

How many times did you guys go to Burger King? That's what I want to know.

Jeremy

Dude, Burger, so here's the thing about Asia all the American restaurants that you hate here are freaking amazing there. Like Burger King, top notch. Oh, dude, the rather eat Burger King than like Shake Shack or something, dude.

SPEAKER_03

The fried chicken in McDonald's in Philippines is awesome. Like, yeah, I swear it's some of the best fried chicken I've ever had. It came from a McDonald's in the Philippines. I mean, definitely.

Jeremy

Yep, 100%. Makes you wonder, huh? Burger King. Yep. Look at that guy. Look at that guy. Yes, look at that guy just melting. That was that was like the first carry over there. And then we went to uh this other bar.

Dan

Definitely some Joe to see. Yeah, yeah, that was like singing to his driver. Old play.

Jeremy

Old play is my specialty.

Matt

Oh, that is so good. Hold on.

Jeremy

Yep, sing with one of the bands that plays all the bars in the area. So they invited me up and I sang. Well, they didn't invite me. They I my fan the family was forcing me to go up there. Oh forced family. When you request the song, they assume that you want to sing it with them.

Matt

I got that one too. Yep, there it is.

Jeremy

So yeah, I uh what did I sing? I sang uh Christopher Cross Sailing and uh Radio Head Creek. Yeah, hell yeah. Okay, don't worry. Yeah, I have video. Yeah, yeah. It was crazy, man. Matt Matt told me before I left. He texted me out of the blue. I didn't even expect it. He's like, I'm happy that you're going. That's awesome. You're taking your kids. You need to do something out of your comfort zone because he probably knows. I just kind of do my little thing and I whatever. Yeah, but yeah, that was my out of the comfort zone was singing in front of a bar full of people that didn't know you and didn't hardly spoke a link of English.

Matt

So that I told Erica that.

Joe

Good job, Matt.

Matt

Yeah, good job, Matt. So that that was a topic of conversation our whole way up to Spokane. Erica's like, all right, well, what's out of your comfort zone? And I'm like, there's not much I won't do. I'm I'm pretty, you know. Now, when it gets into fear, like I'm not a fan of heights. I just watching movies with people on tall bridges or poles, my knees just throw up. I just have no desire to jump out of a plane.

SPEAKER_03

It's just I wouldn't, I can't wait to go. So down. Yeah, call me a pussy. I I you know I you know the comfort zone thing is definitely something that is when you realize you step in outside of it, like there, and you realize when you do it, you're like, what did I have to fear? Like, nothing happened. Like, and I mean, I'll say this Jeremy did the karaoke in the Philippines where I did not. And um, but hey, yeah, hey, five bucks, thank you. And um, so yeah, I mean that's and you do it, it's not like you did it once either, you did it a couple of times.

Jeremy

So I mean the karaoke with the family in the like room that you've rented is completely fine, like the no problem. I seen karaoke here sometimes at home, but doing it in front of the bar with like a band, an actual band that is good at saying take on me was definitely sung, but not by me.

Joe

Uh that's awesome.

Jeremy

Yeah, it was crazy. It's crazy what San Miguel apple cider will do to you. We gotta have to have a character.

SPEAKER_03

That stuff's so good, dude. Uh I had a few of those all that. That stuff's so good. Sweet, but it's good.

Matt

Hey, uh, shout out happy birthday, Matt Boyd. It's his birthday today, so happy birthday, Mr. Boyd. Happy birthday, Boyd. Even though you bailed on Sienna, you he's got he's like married now, isn't he? He got really he got an early tea time at quiet. Uh probably. He's probably gonna be you know what? What'll happen? It'll be like eight o'clock, and I'll get a notification from 18 birdies. Matt Boyd is playing around at Arroyo.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, or did you put did you you got the whole assignments out yet?

Matt

Yeah, yeah, it's all out. All right, check your spam again.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, I don't know why that should be.

Matt

Uh yeah, 7 a.m. tea time. And hey, I put I sent out an email to everybody. If you haven't checked your emails, Sean Rowe is doing breakfast burritos pre-order. So you need to reach out to him. I sent his phone number and his email in the email to everybody that's coming to the tournament. Um, so if you want to get, he's got like six different flavors. If you want a breakfast burrito when you arrive to the golf course, hot and ready for you, reach out to Sean. He's taking pre-orders and he will bring them with him. Little eggs and beef jerky in a burrito. Hell yeah. Uh so yeah, my my experience with the Grint, um, it was different. It it was very, very nice not showing up two hours early. It was nice showing up and not having to prep the golf course for the tournament. It was nice showing up and going to the range and hitting balls. Uh, it was nice warming up, it was nice just sitting back and waiting to start. It was very different. Very different. But uh, I was hoping that that would reflect my play, and I still have some issues that I have to deal with when it comes to tournament golf. I just allow a little bit too much pressure to build up in my brain, and uh, I gotta give that uh I gotta get some of that carefree carelessness, but still caring, uh, I gotta figure that out. So, but it was it was a good time. We had uh course Boulder Creek is amazing as always. Um, Paul, who's running the Grant Vegas, uh Mr. Jackson's helped him out, um Kyle Shane's helping. Them out to uh good things coming for them uh with the VGN coming to a close at the end of this year. That is going to be an option for people if you want it. So uh check them out while you can. Plenty of other options as well, but that's another one that I'll you know probably be playing in a couple of events because a lot of the guys from the VGN, I mean, there was I think we had seven VGN, maybe nine previous, if you count, guys that used to be in it. So uh it was cool seeing some old faces. So that was fun. Um, and then we got let's see, the VGN.

Matt’s Fitness Journey & Pre-Round Hacks

Matt

Oh, Trey, I wanted to tell you this because I told this to Julian. So uh as I've mentioned before, I started going to lifetime, started working with a trainer, um, got a progress report today, a full body scan progress report from this thing called in it's in health, I think it's called in body in body. Um, yep. So did that, saw some fantastic, positive things that are taking place. Trainer was very excited with some of the numbers that he saw for me today. So really happy about that. But he said, so I saw him uh Thursday and he said, I told him I had a tournament Saturday morning. He's like, I want you to get up early, I want you to do our stretches, our stretching routine. I want you to do it at home. I want you to get nice and loose, get all your stretches, get it done. When you leave the house, you get in the car, turn on your heat seaters. You have the AC, you have the AC going, but turn on your butt heaters on the car. And hey, it fucking worked. Let me tell you, I got to the course and I felt like I was ready to run a marathon. I couldn't believe how loose my body was.

SPEAKER_03

It's that's a that's a funny bro. It's it's a game life hack or what? It's a life, it really is. I I you know, I people look at me weird when I take out the stretching stick and all that, but I gotta get my body loosened up, man.

Dan

Like, just don't have three cups of coffee before you turn the heat seaters on there.

SPEAKER_03

You can be too loose, wear some darker shorts.

Dan

Handle your business before you leave the house.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so yeah, I mean that's the crazy thing with that. In in body is like three months from now, two months from now, whatever, you can kind of trick keep tracking your progress with that. So yeah, it's uh um it's definitely something interesting to see, and uh you know, especially on a fitness journey like that, like you can, like your guy said, like you could just start going to the gym. Going to the gym without really knowing anything is a lot better than not going, but being able to get on a plan and you know, be able to know what you're doing, and then you know, at some point kind of going on your own. It's pretty much what I've done the last three and a half years is just kind of figuring out how to do all of it. I haven't had a trainer, but um, I just do a lot of my own research when it comes to the lifting ass trainers in the gym, things like that. So it's I mean, like you said, it's it's gonna that that those days where you're playing golf and your body's sore from working out are gonna be tough to deal with in the beginning, but you get used to it. So uh as long as you kind of work through a lot of that, there'll be there'll come a time when the soreness doesn't happen as often, and then usually when that happens, you kick it up a little bit of a notch to kind of get some more progress going. So I'm happy for you, man. Maybe we could get these other two on the podcast to start lifting some weights too.

Matt

I'm uh I have found some muscles in my buttocks, the glutes uh that did not exist, and and I'm in the process of waking those fucks up, and uh yeah, I'm I'm feeling things in places I didn't know I could feel things, so yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean Freeman said Freeman told me the other day, he's like, bro, you got no ass at all, you gotta start fucking lifting some weights, get growing ass down there. I'm like, bro, Filipino, like it doesn't happen. The only people, the only people with you huge asses in the Philippines are the fat people. So just just calling it like I see it.

Matt

All right, so uh VGN this Saturday, Siena, 7 a.m. start time. It's supposed to only be 113, so that's good. Uh it's cool down a little bit. Um, but we're teing off at 7 a.m. Probably be in the upper mid-90s when we tee off. But uh yeah,

VGN Siena Tournament Preview & Grip Giveaway

Matt

expect it to be a warm one. We got 56 guys playing, should be a good time, and uh you know it's one more eight. So Trey, I I sent this message somewhere, I don't know where it went, but I sent you a message saying, you know, if you win out, you and Dan will tie. I know. So I'm aware of that. Dan's not playing this one. Okay, Dan's Dan's just lost. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_03

Dan's not playing this one, and then obviously I'm going for the four-peat in Coyote Springs.

Matt

So going for coyote, you're gonna play Coyote, right, Dan? Uh I don't know. Yeah, the 19th, 919. So you know, there's only we only got a few events left. We got we got this one. What am I at 12? I think you're at 12, yeah. Yeah, so and he's at what 15? Yeah, yeah. So you gotta four. You gotta win Sienna. No, no, you're four behind, I think is what it is.

Dan

I I think I have 16.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so then I gotta win them all. I think.

Matt

Yeah, you you have to win uh Sienna, Coyote, National, and the final.

unknown

Okay.

Matt

So I haven't played Sienna in so long. That's because you don't play golf anymore.

SPEAKER_03

I yeah, I was gonna say, when's the last time you played golf? Yeah, I mean, we play I played there with KD and Yushi like three months ago when we did a YouTube video, and it was like 65 degrees that morning. And it was in great shape. I mean, I I like Siena more than I like Arroyo because I think there's I think Arroyo is just Arroyo and Red Rock are both weird. Very good. I like and I I've spoken to a lot of members there, and of course, when I join a when I join a club, I'm like, I don't I join the club for the golf. I don't join because of who's a member there, but Red Rock Country Club is very much one of those private clubs in town where people join because of the other members that are there, not so much because the golf course is awesome. So take that for what it is, but I just know like there I almost have like a hard time differentiating the two courses, really, because they're both kind of the same to me, except for that first hole on Arroyo, that par five is a really nice hole. But yeah, I mean it's um those two courses are they're okay.

Matt

I mean, all right, or gonna get ready to pull this right now. If you have not got into the entry for this, all you have to do is leave a comment, preferably one that doesn't get you banned. Uh all banned comments will not count towards this. You know, we want people to do it and blame Joe because I wasn't able to set the show back up quickly and make sure those people didn't respond. Totally Joe's fault. Um 100%. So uh see how many entries we have in there right now. We've got 21 entries, so I think that's a good 21, good Vegas number. Let me bring up that screen and share it. Shut a screen. All right. Here we go.

SPEAKER_03

Twenty-one. No, get it, Joe.

Dan

I want Joe to get it. Oh miles.

Jeremy

Uh I think that was that might have been a wasn't that the six seven guy? Six seven, yeah.

Matt

Is that a bot? Yeah, that was the uh the guy that was going nuts on the 67. So uh draw again. That guy sucks. Totally. Amigos. Troll, I blocked Miles. T Lu. The brother. I know that there's a little delay, so we'll wait. We'll wait.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, if you guys are sourdough people, Jason uh Jason's wife, Nicole, makes sourdough, man. She's got it on lock.

Matt

From one Tyler on to the next. No, all right, all right, Joe. Uh you would know if he's here, right? So five three. Two see ya. Nobody wants to win a free bridge.

Dan

He's gonna be here. He's gonna be here.

Matt

Oh damn it.

Dan

Kyle Shane.

Matt

Kyle Shane, he's not here. Shane, you still here? Are you still hanging?

Dan

Kyle's here. Kyle's here for sure. Kyle's a super, he's a super chat, also, I believe. Isn't he? There he is.

Matt

Yeah, he is. Oh, yeah. All right, that's good. Yeah, yeah. So uh Kyle, I will bring this on Saturday. So you will have it.

Jeremy

Kyle, you're gonna have to take that other grip off the putter and put this one on it. Or buy another putter.

Matt

Uh we go. All right, Jeremy's advice buy another butter.

SPEAKER_03

So I was halfway expecting a putter head to at least make it in the carry-on or something.

Jeremy

I thought I tried.

SPEAKER_03

I saw Joy, I saw the video on Joy's Instagram, and I'm just like, oh crap, he's gonna, he's gotta get something.

Jeremy

So I was looking at wedges like some of those Vokey wedges. I was looking for them, they didn't have any there, but I definitely would have told them, or I would have broken the shaft so I could fit him in a suitcase. I was I was prepared.

SPEAKER_03

I was I don't know the name of it, and I think I saved it on Instagram, but they've got that. I don't know if it's in Tokyo. I think it might be outside of Tokyo, but they got that like seven, eight-story golf store. It's in Tokyo, it's in oh man, I'm surprised you didn't.

Jeremy

Like seven, I'm surprised. That's the one I found out about after the fact. I would have gone there for sure. But I'm prepared for the next time.

Matt

So it looked, it looked like an amazing trip for the family. So yeah. One one last question before we get out of here. Who wants to who wants to game the new Callaway MBs that they just wrote today?

New Callaway MB Irons & 7-Wood Talk

Matt

They are beautiful. They are stunning, stunning, and a limited, limited raw release. So bad.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. Yeah, so clean. I mean, and I think the I think the one thing that I probably like most about it, amongst many other reasons, but the one thing that I do enjoy is no calaway on there, just the chevron.

Matt

Just the chevron.

SPEAKER_03

And I think, and I think in the golf world, the chevron carries enough weight to know that it's calaway golf. Yep, like I mean, right? Yeah, exactly. So, like, I mean, that's different, but I would say, like, on a golf ball, like when you got that big ass callaway shit on the golf ball and all that, like, just put the V chevron, and that's part of the reason. I mean, I I am playing Bridgetone with a big ass B on it, but um, but I mean, if it was all of Bridgestone, you know, that would be a little bit different, but at the same time, the golf ball works for me. I just ordered a lot more of them, so um, but yeah, it's that's the one thing I noticed. The chevron MB, like that clean look, it's so perfect, it's so good. I mean, in the desert, you're not they're not gonna get uh rusty, they're not gonna get rusty, but still, I mean it's I think it's more so of just there's no shine. So when you're when it's 112 degrees and you're playing into the sun, you're not being blinded by your eight iron.

Matt

Dan, when's the last time you swung a golf club? I don't even remember. June. You look so tired, bro.

Dan

It's almost over, right? About June.

Matt

Yeah, almost over. Yeah, we need to get back on the course.

Dan

Yeah, yeah, it's uh it's been a minute, but uh, I think the last time fuck, I don't even remember.

Matt

Oh that's not good.

Dan

Yeah, it's been a minute.

Matt

I have to remedy that.

Dan

I still didn't even have like a shaft for the driver. It's coming, but I haven't had like a dry complete driver in my bag for almost two months now. Well, you can borrow my TR blue if you want. Oh, that's all good. It's coming, it'll be here in like three days, four days.

Matt

He ordered a seven wood too, Trey. I got a seven wood two. Oh, yeah, that's right. Welcome to the club.

Dan

Yeah, I'm gonna give it a whirl.

SPEAKER_03

I think you'll like it a lot. I mean, it really it it completely changed how you approach you know hitting a longer iron. Like, even the nine would for me, it I put a steel shaft in it, and like it plays just like a four-iron would, but I can it's a lot easier to move it left to right, right to left, and high low, and you know, being able to have that versatility versus that. I mean, like a five iron, like I could I could hit five irons, no problem, but you know, the four iron is when it you know it gets to a point where like if you miss it just a little bit, then you know you're toe slapping it or almost shanking it, stuff like that. So the nine wood has been. I know a lot of people have a hard time with it because it's you see a lot of face, but uh it works.

Matt

So it works. I love my seven wood.

Dan

New mini spinners coming seven, nine, and eleven.

Matt

Yeah, I'm I'm curious to see the comparison because you know, I I hit my seven wood, you know, when I hit it the way I want to, I hit it really high. So I I'm not too concerned about getting more spin and more stopping power. Um, I think I I hold it pretty well. Um, but it will be curious to see.

SPEAKER_03

I think how they built it is gonna manage spin a little bit because they got that weight up front and they put the steel on top versus the steel on the bottom. So a lot of that weight and CG is getting up, so the spin won't uh it won't get like super spinny out of that.

Matt

Yeah, it's and it's also like two more same launch profile, and you know, they're expecting the same launch window. They're the only thing they're expecting is an increase in spin. That that's it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, because like the big thing that I saw was it's like two degrees upright compared to the normal wood line, yeah. Which I mean, the crazy thing is is I wouldn't I don't know about you specifically, Matt, but nothing against you, you know, how fast you swing it. But guys like these two here, you know, if they wanted to, and I know they wouldn't, if they wanted to, you could go in like a 115-120x steel shaft to control that spin and have it feel more like an iron than you know, having a uh having a graphite shaft in there and it being too light. I mean, like I said, I play my nine wood at 40 inches, like it's a three-iron. So, you know, that way I can hit it like an iron and not try to sweep it like a wood. Yeah, so cool yo.

Matt

All right, everybody. Thank you for having me, fellas. Hey, no problem. Don't disconnect when we end this. Don't disconnect. So hey uh uh deal, glad we got your shirt. Thank you so much. Rep that for us, please. Uh more stuff coming. Um, I'm I'm going to hopefully tomorrow afternoon. Uh I'm gonna share with what are you giggling at?

Dan

Nothing. I got it. I just got another message.

Matt

Uh oh.

Dan

Okay. You're good. Sorry.

Matt

Tomorrow afternoon, hopefully, when I get home uh from playing golf, I am going to uh reach out to Western Birch. I'm gonna get some CDP golf teas coming in because the VGTs are almost gone. We're gonna have some chasing daylight golf teas coming. And uh I have been talking with the guys at No Dirt about doing a CP Tal. So uh keep your eyes out for some of those things. Uh the Pro Shop is open on the website, that's where you can buy the grips. We have some shirts, some hats, some other things on there. If you're following Hesher Hack, you'll see him rocking the rope hat every now and then. Kid is blowing up right now. It's so fun to watch. Um, everybody, thank you so much for being here. If you're not subscribed to the show, what are you doing? Come on, get on it, go follow amigos on the green on YouTube and Instagram. Great golf content being produced by Trey and my coworker Julian. Love Juju Juju, shout out Juju. He'll be out there Saturday with us. Um, we're at 1174 subs on YouTube. Thank you so much for that. We're continuing to grow there. 2300 follows on Instagram. I think we can do better on that. Um, let me know what you guys think. Send me messages or send me a chat, whatever. What content do you think would help us with the show? Uh, the snippets, the show clips. Sometimes they do good, sometimes they don't do good. So uh you want to see more of us playing golf, let me know, and we'll try and get that channel moving up in the right direction because we're gonna YouTube's gonna pass it here shortly. Um, is anybody on Twitter anymore? I every time I go never was.

SPEAKER_03

I have a profile, but it I only look at it like starting now for fantasy football. Ah, okay.

Jeremy

Do you have a MySpace profile still?

SPEAKER_03

Isn't it coming in? It's coming back.

Dan

MySpace making a reappearance.

SPEAKER_03

He's like, I'm bored. I took I already spent my $350 million.

Matt

I sold it for um 441 followers on X. And I I I go on there and it's just AI videos of like really bad AI stuff. And I I just don't get like who's watching that shit.

SPEAKER_03

It's like my mom sends me uh my mom sends me these like AI golf videos, and I'll just like send her a comment back, mom. This is AI, and she goes, Oh, I didn't know.

Matt

It's awful, it's awful, anyways. So uh if you're out on their social channels, make sure you're giving us a follow. The most important one though is iTunes. If you're not subscribing to YouTube, it's iTunes. Go to the i go to iTunes, uh however you do it, on your Mac, on your phone, go to the Chasing Daylight page, make sure you're following the show. That is the only thing that lets iTunes and Apple and the podcast platforms know that you like what we're doing. Doesn't matter if you watch the episode or listen to the episode. I mean, of course that matters, but if you're not following the show, they don't know that you're interested. So please, if you're not, thank you for doing it. We really appreciate it. It helps us, it helps everything. Um, and it's a way for you to just give a little high five to us, you know. Um, we did find out there's a new way that we're gonna be able to just convert from a live stream into a private stream. Just figured that out today. So when Joe gets back and we do an after show, we won't have to schedule it, we can just go right into it. So that is gonna be fun once that happens. I think everybody's back next week, right? Uh yeah. So the four of us will be back. Uh, Trey, thanks so much for sitting in. We really appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule. Uh, like I said, check out Amigos on the Green, and uh, we'll be back next week with another show. Until then, we will all, and we're doing it for real this time, uh, catch you later.

Jeremy

Later, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you can see it.

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