E15 - Three Matts, One Meeting

Agenda: 

• Review pitches for branded content from Matt Matthews and Matt Matthews of Big Matt’s Content

Takeaways:

• Reach out to Matt and Matt, by letter, with our decision
• Matt and Matt are going to meet with their lawyers… as always
• Whoever sees John first (or ever again) tell them hi from everyone

Matt and Matt Matthews were played by Austin Weiford and Andrew Farley. You can hear them both with co-host Leah Morse on the Better Movie Club podcast, an improv comedy podcast about movies that could be better. Find it on your favorite podcasting app or visit www.bettermovieclub.com for links.

Transcript

Ben 0:07

welcome to this startup is being recorded. This recording is improvised fiction. Similarities between it and the real world are entirely intentional. Now enjoy the recording.

Kate 0:22

Uh, Hey everybody happy Wednesday. Um, w we have hopefully a meeting that'll fit into 30 minutes today, but we'll see, we do have a couple of folks joining us, um, around the content rebranding, um, uh, For the couple of new folks, we do record all of our meetings here. Um, you know, we just think it's really important for the history of this company that any employees new or future have the ability to really download all the information about us and become the most embedded employees they can. So I hope that's okay. Um, we're already recording and yeah, I guess the point of this meeting is to hear some of the pitches you have around content, um, which will go well with our new name. That is still to be decided, but before we dig into that, let's just introduce everybody. Um, maybe the Metta market folks can, can start. Um, I'm Kate I am the chief of staff here. I work under John. Uh, John of course is our CEO. Um, I believe he has met you both before. Right?

Matt Matthews 1:27

Yeah. Yeah.

Also Matt Matthews 1:29

Yep. Big John guys.

Kate 1:31

You bring John guys.

Also Matt Matthews 1:32

Um,

Eric 1:32

Interesting.

Matt Matthews 1:33

of John over here.

Eric 1:36

Great

Kate 1:36

Amazing. Um, most people don't have enough time with John to really become fans, but

Eric 1:42

form an opinion at all.

Kate 1:44

right. Um, anyway, uh, who, who else wants.

Thea 1:49

Go Califia Metta Roba. am the chief creatives are at Metta market and, uh, excited to see what you guys come up with.

Eric 2:00

Um, Eric Joyce Carter, chief product officer, I'm tired of saying formerly or soon to no longer be metal market. So really excited for this meeting. And hopefully we can make one more step towards actually having a name.

Matt.Yachts 2:16

Uh, I'm Matt, uh, matt.yachts, and I'm the CTO here at, uh, Metro market and whatever. Uh, so yeah, Do you guys want to introduce yourselves for the, uh, for the.

Matt Matthews 2:28

oh yeah, yeah, sure. Um, I am Matt Matthews for, uh, uh, big mats content. I'm

Kate 2:36

Matt's car.

Matt Matthews 2:37

to. Yeah. We, we had, uh, BMC are excited to work with you guys.

Also Matt Matthews 2:43

And, um, I am Matt Matthews with big mats contents. at BMC are really excited to work with you guys.

Kate 2:51

wait, sorry, which Matt?

Matt.Yachts 2:56

yeah. Oh, you meant?

Kate 2:59

Wait, are you both? You're both names.

Also Matt Matthews 3:03

But two of them are,

Kate 3:05

Well, you're all name, Matt.

Matt.Yachts 3:06

Yeah. I'm I'm

Also Matt Matthews 3:09

so

Matt.Yachts 3:10

Yeah.

Kate 3:12

Okay. Big, big, big mats content, I guess are what are your real names? I guess?

Thea 3:18

map,

Matt Matthews 3:20

my father,

Thea 3:21

oh,

Eric 3:22

got it. Is he a part of the company too?

Matt Matthews 3:25

uh, he, he was, he's no longer

Eric 3:28

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm

Matt.Yachts 3:29

oh, I'm sorry.

Eric 3:30

Yeah,

Also Matt Matthews 3:31

My father was also, uh,

Matt.Yachts 3:34

Oh no, no relation.

Kate 3:37

and he was also part of the,

Also Matt Matthews 3:39

Not part of the company.

Thea 3:40

Okay.

Kate 3:44

no relation to the company. Just a relation to the mat.

Also Matt Matthews 3:47

Um,

Kate 3:49

mat.

Thea 3:50

Right.

Kate 3:51

well, uh, no, we've got all our names out of the way. Um, do y'all want to get started and, uh, yeah, I guess jump right into what you've got and maybe give an overview too. Of course, for the stream of, you know, how we got started on this project and the goals and all that.

Matt Matthews 4:12

Yeah, absolutely. Um, so when we were talking to John, uh, he told us you know, the, the rebranding, the whole meta issue with the names and things like that. And, um, we are a company who specializes in a branded content. so, you know, where would, uh, where would Tylenol PM be without the matrix or, uh, we, we, we like to, uh, w w we like to do content that doesn't seem like advertising.

Kate 4:50

Okay.

Matt Matthews 4:51

gets your name out there, and that gets the product in front of people. Um, so really

Kate 4:56

Cool.

Matt Matthews 4:57

with you guys. Uh, with the currently known as Metamarkets. Matt, did I miss anything? Do you want to,

Also Matt Matthews 5:06

Uh, yeah, Matt.

Matt.Yachts 5:09

Sorry me. Um, I'm not that familiar with your, with your company, honestly, that that's sounded right.

Also Matt Matthews 5:16

All right. Well, I.

Matt Matthews 5:17

me.

Matt.Yachts 5:19

Oh, okay. That makes more sense.

Kate 5:22

great. And I mean, as we talked about over the dinner, um, That we had with you without knowing that we were meeting with you? Um, yeah, I didn't know if it's just like monthly olive garden team dinners are really our big, big time to spend together. So it was surprising you were there last month, but either way, I glad John sent you. Um, and the breadsticks really brought everyone together. Um, despite, yeah, I don't know.

Eric 5:55

that's on yours. That's one of yours. The family was.

Also Matt Matthews 6:00

I mean, not with olive garden.

Eric 6:02

Fast and the furious then fast at the various

Also Matt Matthews 6:06

smaller,

Eric 6:07

oh, um, nothing. Nothing comes to mind. What, w w what other family branding this there

Also Matt Matthews 6:14

Uh, so there's a, there's a little, a little place behind the olive garden called tomato pasture. if you're there, we are family,

Kate 6:23

Like physically.

Thea 6:25

before the olive garden?

Also Matt Matthews 6:29

um,

Matt Matthews 6:30

timelines don't really matter.

Thea 6:34

Got it. Yeah. I mean, great.

Kate 6:38

I mean, timelines do matter for things like copywriting of, you know, slogans and whatnot, but

Also Matt Matthews 6:46

it's not the same slogan when you're there. We are family.

Eric 6:51

so are you ever part of the family or, or, or not? Yeah, that really makes you think I can, I can see how that's an ear warm, like I guess people. Oh, and what's what is this brand? Okay. Okay. Um, I'm I'm I'm I'm listening. Thank you

Also Matt Matthews 7:04

to think about it. you to figure that out.

Eric 7:07

tell. Okay.

Matt.Yachts 7:09

It does. It does make you think it makes you question the concept of family who's in the family. What is it?

Kate 7:15

Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm sure that's not one of the slogans he would come up with for, for us. Um, I assume so.

Matt Matthews 7:23

Uh, hold on. I'm going to mark something out real quick.

Matt.Yachts 7:27

sure. And, uh, just, just to put everything on the table, I don't recall what we talked about at olive garden, but, um, Bugsby are a world famous mascot. Uh, now a self-sovereign. Uh, out in the world, um, did recently do an appearance. I think it has yet to air, uh, on NCI S uh, and I'm, I just thought it's, it's branded content. Uh Califia and I thought we should be really clear, uh, you know, we are, we have been doing tie-ins. So just so that the mats are aware of that.

Kate 8:01

yeah, though. Notably the embroidered couch that was also featured MCIs we are no longer stocking those. So if you have anything related to the embroidery, That would also be something to cut.

Matt Matthews 8:13

Okay, good to know.

Kate 8:15

anyway, I think we've taken up, you know, so much time dwelling on the olive garden, uh, tomato, tomato field or whatever that was a pasture tomatoes don't grow in pastures. Anyway. Uh, go right ahead. Maybe you hit us with, with what you've got. What's the best.

Matt Matthews 8:35

Oh, you want me to skip to the best or

Kate 8:38

Oh,

Matt Matthews 8:38

we we've got a big idea that I was kind of holding for, like, you know, the finale,

Kate 8:43

okay.

Matt Matthews 8:44

But, um,

Kate 8:46

Sure.

Matt Matthews 8:47

I've got a couple other ideas here. Um, so I liked Bugsy. I like Bugsy as a character, like Bugsy as a mascot. I want to know.

Matt.Yachts 8:56

sorry. It's it's uh, it's Bugsby there's a, there's a second before.

Matt Matthews 9:00

Okay. I got a, um, hold on. Make some notes. Okay. So that idea is not going to work if he's got that B um,

Kate 9:11

did you have a bug or slogan sorry, cutting you off. Uh, go, go ahead.

Matt Matthews 9:18

Uh, so moving past that, um, but I, I do like bugs B, um, and think I want to know, um, sort of his story where he's come from. Um, I love that he was in an episode of, in CIS, uh, because this first idea, uh, we have to present you guys. Um, we like to call die from. Uh, so bugs be, would be a, a cop who is estranged from his wife. Um, he's traveling to visit, uh, for shark week and, um, he gets caught up in an international, uh, incident he saves the day.

Also Matt Matthews 10:06

And just to add to that really quick. Are you guys from on bugs bugs be

Thea 10:13

That's his name?

Matt.Yachts 10:15

Yeah.

Thea 10:15

Uh,

Also Matt Matthews 10:16

because the bugs, the ID has really good.

Thea 10:20

yeah, is, you know, our mascot and again, a, um, person in its own. Right. So we really, it's not a piece of creative that we can just change.

Also Matt Matthews 10:34

Okay.

Matt.Yachts 10:37

right. Um, I don't, I don't recall the content discussions about Bugsby from before I joined, uh, metal market, but, um, are we cool with Bugsby being a cop feeling?

Thea 10:51

Uh, yeah, I don't really think that's that, uh, really. Fits in with the bug speak brand. I just also want to make sure, like, are we, when we're pitching these ideas, are we assuming that they're going to be like well-known actors in this, uh, ad marketing experience?

Matt Matthews 11:15

Well, I think that the idea is for bugs, be themselves to be in this ad. Um,

Thea 11:24

Okay.

Matt Matthews 11:24

the face out there, get the brand out there.

Eric 11:27

sure. Um,

Also Matt Matthews 11:29

We, and we did get Bruce Williams for this Bruce Williams.

Kate 11:34

You're already sourcing actors.

Eric 11:36

Wow. He's great. In that Campbell soup commercial

Kate 11:42

I think maybe some of us are missing the point of this, which is, this sounds extremely like a movie that already exists. That probably doesn't just let anyone make commercials that are based off of this.

Also Matt Matthews 11:56

I'm going to stop you there,

Kate 11:59

Okay.

Also Matt Matthews 12:01

Matt.

Matt.Yachts 12:02

Yeah. Oh, sorry.

Matt Matthews 12:06

Oh,

Also Matt Matthews 12:07

Yeah, just

Kate 12:08

Can we, can we call him big Matt or something? Would that be better?

Also Matt Matthews 12:11

Uh,

Matt.Yachts 12:13

as, is that a thing between the two of you? Like, which one of you is the big mat?

Also Matt Matthews 12:16

well, it's going to really upset big Matt who was

Kate 12:20

I thought he was dead.

Also Matt Matthews 12:21

in heaven now.

Kate 12:24

Okay. Okay. That's fine, Matt,

Matt.Yachts 12:29

But wait, I'm sorry, is, uh, Kate, you said this is already a, a movie. What do you mean?

Kate 12:38

the name die from it's like diehard, but with one synonym

Matt Matthews 12:43

Oh, I see.

Matt.Yachts 12:45

I was, I can't believe. Yeah. Yeah. Love that. Yeah.

Matt Matthews 12:49

No. Okay. So

Kate 12:50

again, not the point.

Matt Matthews 12:52

um, common misconception, uh, in the movie diehard. Uh, it is, Christmas is not shark week.

Eric 13:01

Well, yeah, that actually brings up another question. I have. Well, since, since bugs has been an episode of MCIs, which is CBS property, uh,

Thea 13:11

this up again?

Eric 13:13

I'm just the logistics of this, then the licensing there's, there's got to be a non-compete from that. And discovery is, is its own network it's and there's no way they would let, they would let us run a discovery product if he's been on a CBS show in the, in the last six months.

Also Matt Matthews 13:27

is a different shark week.

Eric 13:29

Oh, there's another shark.

Also Matt Matthews 13:33

It's

Eric 13:33

Is this one,

Also Matt Matthews 13:34

it's this is a week for sharks.

Eric 13:36

it organized by sharks themselves?

Also Matt Matthews 13:38

yeah, yeah,

Eric 13:39

Oh, that's so great.

Also Matt Matthews 13:40

sharks, you know, the shark.

Eric 13:43

From the west side, from west side story.

Also Matt Matthews 13:46

warmer, sh the sharks, you know,

Thea 13:54

The one swimming in the ocean.

Also Matt Matthews 13:57

it could be

Kate 13:59

th the New York aquarium sharks, I don't know.

Also Matt Matthews 14:02

Uh, I think you have it in your notes. sharks.

Thea 14:05

they about actual sharks? Like fish, cartilage

Matt Matthews 14:10

I'm sorry for the confusion. We're talking about loan sharks.

Thea 14:15

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You want Bugsby to be associated with loan sharks?

Eric 14:21

rare case where I might actually be okay with him being a cop, though, if he's kind of busting like, know, unscrupulous loan, shark.

Thea 14:29

Yeah,

Eric 14:29

college students back into the couch market.

Thea 14:31

I just want to be, I just want to be really clear after the Mark Hammond fiasco though, since we are going down like a cop, like line that I refuse to work with. William Peterson, Sam Waterson, David James Elliott, Scott backlog, or Tom Selleck.

Matt.Yachts 14:45

it's really too bad about Scott. Bakalin

Also Matt Matthews 14:47

I'm going to cross some things out here.

Matt Matthews 14:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to adjust our notes. Um, so sorry, I didn't know any of this coming in. Um, okay. Well, let's, uh, let's

Kate 14:58

is that entire? Yeah. Is that tire three ring binder full of ideas? Cause I only scheduled 30 minutes for this

Matt Matthews 15:07

This is, uh, this is my ideas notebook. Um, it hasn't, it hasn't all been generated for men to market. Um, it's just sort of, I

Kate 15:15

okay.

Matt Matthews 15:16

jot some things down,

Kate 15:18

Got it.

Matt Matthews 15:18

I get inspired or, um, to the movies or something like that. Um, so let let's table the let's table die from for now and just

Thea 15:28

Yeah.

Matt Matthews 15:29

it, it sounds like we have. Some, some to explore there, if we're going to go further. So, um, moving on, I know a cop was maybe not your, your bag, but, um, sheriff Bugsby. How does that grab.

Matt.Yachts 15:52

I mean, that's just, that's it. Yeah, that's a cop also.

Kate 15:56

Right.

Thea 15:56

Yeah. Especially if you're, I would assume a sheriff at you're going with a wild, wild west

Also Matt Matthews 16:03

Well,

Thea 16:03

fear.

Also Matt Matthews 16:05

we have a, we have a different spin on the classic sheriff. So Amity island shark week.

Thea 16:14

Okay, can you just, again, just

Matt.Yachts 16:16

Why's that?

Thea 16:17

which shark week talking about the loan shark week.

Also Matt Matthews 16:21

is the week that a shark ate so many people.

Matt.Yachts 16:25

Oh,

Matt Matthews 16:26

And he is to be clear. He is a loan It's just the one shark.

Thea 16:33

So

Matt.Yachts 16:33

yeah.

Thea 16:33

commemorating the shark that killed people just wide

Also Matt Matthews 16:38

Well, so

Thea 16:40

a bunch of people

Also Matt Matthews 16:41

sheriff Bugsy.

Thea 16:42

people, but the shark.

Also Matt Matthews 16:45

Sure Bugsy is trying to stop the murders during shark week bugs li.

Matt.Yachts 16:51

It's a bug bugs

Kate 16:52

bugs, beat second beat.

Matt Matthews 16:55

Uh, yeah, I obviously I couldn't go through and update all of our notes when we learned that. So,

Kate 17:00

But earlier you had it as Bugsy and I have it. A Lee did it. You weren't even consistent in your own.

Matt Matthews 17:07

It's possible. We took separate notes.

Also Matt Matthews 17:10

I took some creative liberties. I thought that's why we were here.

Matt.Yachts 17:15

okay. I just have a question. So the, there is a week dedicated to a shark that, uh, a, a bunch of people, uh, and they are celebrating this week, but also sheriff Bugsby is trying to stop the shark. The shark is still.

Also Matt Matthews 17:30

Well, in this university, sheriff Buckley.

Thea 17:34

Okay, but share

Matt.Yachts 17:35

Okay. We can.

Thea 17:36

is the shark. That's still around, but the same shark, the rest of the town seems to celebrate in a week, commemorating him for killing a bunch of people.

Also Matt Matthews 17:48

I see the confusion you're thinking of discovery is shark week, but this is Amity island shark week sheriff bugs li don't

Kate 17:59

okay. I get that we have problems with names and the confusion, but like, I just want to point out again that this is the plot of a major movie of jobs. I, I don't

Matt.Yachts 18:11

familiar. Yeah,

Also Matt Matthews 18:14

of it.

Thea 18:15

Okay. Can you I'm on both of these movies, I'm just going to be afraid. Totally with any sort of like art. And I don't believe that it has to be like really intentional about couches. I mean, that's really embedded in a lot of our marketing, but I, and maybe you can just walk me through with this concept so I could help to understand I'm not even sure. I see where subliminally this concept would, would lead people to want to buy couches.

Also Matt Matthews 18:47

Matt. I thought John really liked this idea.

Matt Matthews 18:50

Oh, he did. Um,

Also Matt Matthews 18:52

Hmm.

Matt Matthews 18:52

to, to, uh Califia to your point, um, let me ask you something when you, um, so suppose you find yourself without a place to live and you have to, uh, crash at your friend's apartment. W what do people call that?

Thea 19:13

Ouch surfing.

Matt Matthews 19:15

Right. Exactly. And when we think about couch surfing, we think about beaches. We think about sheriffs, and we think about shark week.

Thea 19:28

Will there surfing in this, this plot line here?

Matt Matthews 19:36

Yeah, the, um, the sharks, sorry. The sharks name is mouth mouths. Primary victims are surfers so

Matt.Yachts 19:44

Servers and we'll we'll.

Thea 19:47

message that if you couch surf you'll die.

Eric 19:50

Right. It's like dangerous,

Matt.Yachts 19:52

Yeah, not so subliminal. I think that's, that's overt, right? It's in the text.

Thea 19:57

yeah.

Eric 19:57

right?

Matt Matthews 19:58

they're couch surfing on Metamarkets couches.

Also Matt Matthews 20:01

Love this.

Matt.Yachts 20:03

Um, interesting.

Eric 20:05

Where the sheriff is going to protect them from cop surfing dangerous.

Kate 20:09

okay. We, we,

Matt Matthews 20:10

great idea, Eric.

Thea 20:12

safe.

Kate 20:13

no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Thea 20:14

I totally get that.

Also Matt Matthews 20:16

We all

Kate 20:16

no. I know. So we had a whole situation last year about how buoyant our couches are or not. And, you know, the whole

Thea 20:26

yeah.

Kate 20:27

fiasco. And I, I just really don't want to to overtly or subliminally tell anyone that they should be taking our couches into waters that are larger or deeper than two feet.

Thea 20:38

Or replacing lifeboats with couches.

Kate 20:41

Right. Unless y'all want to reintroduce the inflatable couch line.

Eric 20:48

now.

Thea 20:52

Yeah.

Matt Matthews 20:53

Uh, so Matt, I think that the next idea, um, the gigantic USS gigantic, I think

Also Matt Matthews 21:01

Yeah,

Matt Matthews 21:01

pass on that one. If we're avoiding water.

Also Matt Matthews 21:05

I've got, I've just got like a last idea in my notes. Sandlot.

Kate 21:14

Sorry. Say that again.

Eric 21:17

Sand a lot or Sandlot

Also Matt Matthews 21:19

Sandlot,

Kate 21:20

Say, say sand a lot since

Also Matt Matthews 21:25

just Sandlot.

Eric 21:26

okay. Like, like the, like the children's movie

Thea 21:30

um,

Also Matt Matthews 21:30

I'm going to mark that out. I'm just going to

Eric 21:33

now, um, I want to hear more. They, they, they really squandered their, their remake. Maybe we can some life back to the franchise.

Also Matt Matthews 21:40

uh, I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm just going to.

Kate 21:44

how do you all come up with these ideas, but it's clearly never seen a movie in your entire life. These are all very classic movies.

Matt Matthews 21:55

Well, um, I'm not sure what you're implying. Um, we're not.

Also Matt Matthews 22:01

ideas.

Kate 22:03

I mean, I don't own a TV. I don't watch movies, but I frequently print out I B and read it to make sure that I am part of the, you know, social site Geist. Uh, I do you not do something like that?

Matt Matthews 22:18

PR parallel thinking is something that a lot. do you know how many, uh, books and movies were pitched with a little magic boy who discovers he's a wizard and, um, uh,

Thea 22:29

I totally believe in parallel thinking. I mean, I totally agree, but that usually. And so on one idea, and it seems like several of your ideas. I mean, unless you have some sort of way to tap into a creativity channel, but only contains blockbuster movies.

Also Matt Matthews 22:50

Let me remind you. And seen an olive garden once. But

Eric 22:56

last week.

Also Matt Matthews 22:56

tomato pasture. When you're here, we are family.

Matt.Yachts 23:00

family. I, yeah, I remember that that's really stuck in my.

Also Matt Matthews 23:03

That was one of our classic ideas. Yeah. It's sticks. And you've all heard of tomato pasture. I mean, it's a staple.

Kate 23:13

no,

Matt.Yachts 23:13

honestly

Thea 23:14

Yeah.

Matt.Yachts 23:15

meeting now.

Eric 23:16

Yeah, I do remember from the past 20 minutes. So.

Matt Matthews 23:21

Okay. I think we're ready to move on to our big idea.

Matt.Yachts 23:26

Oh, okay.

Eric 23:27

Great. Great.

Also Matt Matthews 23:28

Yeah,

Matt Matthews 23:28

is, this is the big one. Okay. That's what we're calling it. The big. Um,

Kate 23:34

Like big Matt. Sorry.

Matt Matthews 23:36

exactly. This is sort of a prequel story. He bugs me as a child, um, who wants more than anything to grow. And

Also Matt Matthews 23:49

Yeah.

Matt Matthews 23:50

uh, possibly Tom Hanks. Um, he goes to a toy store. He dances on a giant piano, classic family commercial, the big one.

Matt.Yachts 24:05

But yeah, that's a movie called big starring Tommy. That one does exist. I know I wouldn't to Matt. I would

Also Matt Matthews 24:16

took that.

Kate 24:17

Listen, let me print out the IMDP page for you. Uh

Also Matt Matthews 24:21

on, hold on, hold on. We sent this to Tom Hanks.

Matt.Yachts 24:25

Did you send it to him like 30 years ago?

Also Matt Matthews 24:27

I don't know how we did it.

Kate 24:29

Tom Hanks respond.

Matt Matthews 24:32

it was a form letter.

Kate 24:34

Well, think you get that counts as him agreeing to sign onto this commercial.

Also Matt Matthews 24:39

Yeah, it sounds like you stole our idea.

Matt.Yachts 24:42

again, this, this was, uh, a film in the, I think the 1980s.

Also Matt Matthews 24:46

I don't, I'm not saying I know.

Matt.Yachts 24:49

I, guess we'll be 40, 30 to 40 years ago.

Matt Matthews 24:52

this may be good news. Um, if we know that Tom Hanks has agreed to play this role in the past, I think it's more likely that he will settle back into

Matt.Yachts 25:03

we're a prize. Yeah,

Also Matt Matthews 25:05

Especially

Matt Matthews 25:05

know,

Also Matt Matthews 25:06

gave him the idea.

Matt Matthews 25:07

get get Tom Hanks back out there, name back in people's homes back in people's mouths.

Matt.Yachts 25:13

just Califia. Just bugs, be a grownup bugs. We strike you as a Tom Hanks kind of.

Thea 25:20

first bugs me age is on different timelines because he's not a human, you know, he has a longer lifespan. know this. So I, I just think like, and also the signs of age being in the creature bugs be is it's just very different than human signs of aging. So I think, you know, just putting us, showing a grownup bugs feed. Stymies our future creativity about bike speed will grow up into, but like second, I mean, this is, uh, you know, me, I enjoy original creativity and I enjoy the protection of creativity and list is a really big copyright, you know, issue here. Um, and finally, We don't need another SQL, you know, I think the creative department and only coming up with original ideas and not reusing any idea has made our position pretty firm on how we feel about sequels and trilogies. Other than those written by Tolkien.

Kate 26:22

Um, Matt,

Matt Matthews 26:24

Yeah.

Matt.Yachts 26:27

yeah.

Kate 26:27

the big, the maps from the big mat, the, I just Googled you, which is something I should have done before. It seems like you are embroiled in just like dozens of lawsuits about taking. Classic movies and turning them into ads or stealing slogans from other, and in all of these, you've tried to show extensive proof that you have not seen any of this. Uh, and I'm just, I'm not quite sure this is where we want to go. Is, is there anything definitively you can say or show to us to prove that you did not straight up steal this?

Matt Matthews 27:08

I don't even own a TV,

Kate 27:11

I have already told you how I don't own a TV, but I have the ability to print out. I am DB.

Also Matt Matthews 27:16

No computer.

Matt Matthews 27:18

no printer.

Kate 27:19

That's why I use this three ring notebook. Huh?

Eric 27:22

wait, wait. When the who's who's sending us emails from M Matthews at big mat consulting, Korea.

Also Matt Matthews 27:29

Huh.

Matt Matthews 27:31

Oh, those are our competitors.

Eric 27:34

What's

Matt.Yachts 27:35

a bummer. They got the domain. Huh?

Matt Matthews 27:38

Mm

Eric 27:38

there.

Kate 27:40

what's their

Eric 27:40

was kind of the mess we're in right now.

Thea 27:42

And explain why you kept sending us snail mail to set up this meeting.

Also Matt Matthews 27:51

And I, I want to clear my name. Maybe Matt stolen some ideas. I never have. The only thing I've ever stolen in my life was a car. And I served my time.

Matt Matthews 28:03

Yeah, Matt has clearly is still an ideas and you guys work with him every day. So I don't understand.

Matt.Yachts 28:08

Wait, we're talking about me now.

Eric 28:10

That's open source. That's it's

Matt.Yachts 28:12

Yeah.

Also Matt Matthews 28:14

Matt.yachts.

Matt Matthews 28:15

we believe in open source creative.

Kate 28:20

It's

Matt.Yachts 28:21

Well, when you put it that way,

Eric 28:22

What do you have that existed? Like this or creative commons? There's there's a process for that. Uh, it's not the Hollywood studio process. That's the opposite.

Also Matt Matthews 28:31

what is public domain?

Thea 28:33

I believe in creative release, free mixing content. Like I do think that there's interesting things to be done at, you know, I Support a lot of my creative teams,

Matt.Yachts 28:46

yeah. You know,

Thea 28:47

spent on fan fiction, but this is

Matt.Yachts 28:48

but maybe we're.

Thea 28:49

far derivative from the original storyline.

Matt.Yachts 28:52

we're being too hard on the mats here. And maybe this is just a mat thing, but I feel like we're, we're getting who me

Kate 29:01

I think maybe just to like S because I've never actually directly asked you all, can we just go around real quick and state if we've ever stolen anything? And if so, what? It was.

Matt.Yachts 29:10

Oh,

Kate 29:11

So obviously Matt Matthews, the

Matt.Yachts 29:15

you stole.

Kate 29:17

stolen car.

Also Matt Matthews 29:18

And your hearts.

Matt.Yachts 29:21

No, that's,

Also Matt Matthews 29:22

um,

Matt.Yachts 29:23

that's a good one that I was thinking about that. Uh, but I'm not going to steal it. Uh, have I stolen? Um, yes. Yeah. I stole a pair of shoes from a roommate.

Kate 29:35

Did you serve your time for that?

Matt.Yachts 29:37

I don't think they noticed he had like 50 pairs of shoes and they just fit me really.

Kate 29:43

Got

Matt.Yachts 29:43

So, I guess, no, I haven't.

Kate 29:46

Okay. Okay. Um, The last, Matt, do you want to go?

Matt Matthews 29:51

I, uh, I've never stolen ideas. I did still one thing and, uh, I, I once, uh, stole my business partners identity.

Also Matt Matthews 30:03

He did.

Matt.Yachts 30:05

So from, from you.

Also Matt Matthews 30:07

my credit's ruined.

Matt.Yachts 30:09

Oh,

Matt Matthews 30:10

It's actually much easier when you have the same name.

Matt.Yachts 30:13

yeah.

Kate 30:14

Oh, so you had the same name already.

Matt Matthews 30:16

Yeah. Yeah.

Also Matt Matthews 30:17

He started the, the way he started it was he asked, compare social security numbers to see if we had the same one.

Kate 30:23

You shouldn't fall for that.

Matt Matthews 30:26

For

Matt.Yachts 30:27

yeah.

Matt Matthews 30:27

nickname around the office was just a social security number,

Matt.Yachts 30:30

Ouch. The weight that's much harder to remember and longer than.

Kate 30:35

Yeah.

Also Matt Matthews 30:37

I thought it

Matt Matthews 30:37

but less confusing.

Matt.Yachts 30:39

I guess it's very

Eric 30:40

Let's try it. This ambiguation.

Matt.Yachts 30:42

Listen, I do. I don't want to try this one more time. So maybe these mats are coming to us with stolen movie ideas. Okay. But

Kate 30:51

gone through what everyone has stolen, Matt. I can't.

Thea 30:54

you were just asking them that.

Kate 30:57

no. I want to know for you too.

Thea 31:00

Um, you know, only, uh, operate on a consent model. So I haven't taken anything from anyone that they haven't given me their explicit permission to take. Um, yeah, I would say that, um, that is effective from 2002 onward. And I won't talk about what happened before 2002.

Eric 31:23

um, I. Every two weeks for the last 20 years, uh, I, when I go get a haircut, I sign up online for the buzz cut for$18, but I ended up getting a full haircut with like a shampoo, which should be$23. Um, I, at this point they, they liked me and they know me enough. So I don't know if it still counts as stealing, but at least at the beginning it was, it was partially theft.

Thea 31:49

Right. What are they? Oh,

Eric 31:57

oh, of course,

Also Matt Matthews 31:58

That's the AFT.

Eric 32:00

but not my, not my, not, I'm not the perpetrator of that death, but I agree.

Matt.Yachts 32:06

I'm sorry. W tipping is theft.

Eric 32:10

well, you, the, the big three tipping, taxation and time, and those, those are the real thefts in system.

Also Matt Matthews 32:19

Guys like us, we don't need to be. Why, why do we have to give them.

Kate 32:24

That's a whole nother

Thea 32:26

tip.

Eric 32:27

uh, no, I do tip, but I recognize that it's, that the system of tipping is stealing from, from workers. Like I PR I participate because I'm aware of the theft that the

Matt.Yachts 32:36

Right. Because they should be paid a wage. Yeah. Yeah.

Kate 32:40

Okay.

Thea 32:41

sense.

Eric 32:41

I think Matt

Matt.Yachts 32:42

go a long

Eric 32:42

a different page about this, Matt, Matt, and I might disagree about the nature of this.

Matt.Yachts 32:45

It just.

Matt Matthews 32:46

No, no, no. I'm with you.

Eric 32:48

Oh, cool.

Also Matt Matthews 32:48

Yeah.

Kate 32:52

Well, we don't need to go read and talk about that.

Matt.Yachts 32:55

Kate, did we, did we get to you? Do you

Kate 32:57

Um,

Matt.Yachts 32:58

have you stolen?

Kate 33:00

did steal. I was unaware that it was stealing at the time, but, uh, when I was nine years old, I was. Unfortunately involved in a goldfish fighting ring. Uh, and I really hated that goldfish were having such terrible lives in pet stores. Um, and some nice people came up to me and said that they could give goldfish better lives. And we just had to create a plan to sneak them out of the stores, uh, which I, I thought they were like going back to the wild, but later found out it was a, it was a fighting ring.

Matt Matthews 33:29

So what if one of these goldfish was named Nemo and bugs be had

Eric 33:35

no, no.

Thea 33:37

No.

Kate 33:39

Okay.

Matt Matthews 33:40

control when inspiration strikes.

Kate 33:41

Sure. How about you write that down with your colored pencils or something?

Matt Matthews 33:45

idea. Yeah.

Thea 33:45

write it, down, leave a blank space where bugs people would have been and use it for your next

Matt.Yachts 33:50

I just, I want to try, I want to try one more time. So Matt mats are bringing us these, these stolen ID. But we do believe we believe in remix culture, right? And it is a creative act to do mashups. So mats, why not pitch us one project? That's all of these projects together. That would be unique.

Kate 34:14

and terrible, but I don't know. Sure. Go ahead. Try.

Matt Matthews 34:20

So sheriff Bugsby used to be a child,

Matt.Yachts 34:27

Yep.

Matt Matthews 34:27

now he's at an airport for shark week and the.

Thea 34:35

last time. Let's clarify with shark week. We're talking about here.

Also Matt Matthews 34:38

Well in this

Matt.Yachts 34:38

I think both.

Also Matt Matthews 34:39

shark week. it's the shark week where everyone's getting killed by a shark

Kate 34:44

at an airport.

Also Matt Matthews 34:46

and, and discovers discovery. I I've never heard of it. Um,

Thea 34:52

Okay.

Matt Matthews 34:53

So,

Thea 34:54

at an airport. It's shark week.

Matt Matthews 34:56

yes, it's shark week at an airport. Um, I think there's a terrorist named Nimmo.

Thea 35:08

And interesting.

Matt Matthews 35:10

steals, uh, big speeds shoes and makes him walk on glass. Is this

Also Matt Matthews 35:18

We

Matt Matthews 35:19

well?

Also Matt Matthews 35:19

for this project. She's desperate.

Matt Matthews 35:23

Yeah. And for the part of,

Kate 35:25

When you say, get hurt, do you mean you got a form letter?

Also Matt Matthews 35:29

We got a form letter from Ellen. Yeah.

Kate 35:32

not getting hurt. Okay. Keep going.

Matt Matthews 35:34

for the sake of incorporating a big, I thought big speed would be.

Eric 35:38

Uh,

Matt Matthews 35:41

Um, so,

Matt.Yachts 35:43

actually, I don't see.

Matt Matthews 35:46

uh, so he has to walk across glass without his shoes and then reconnects with his estranged.

Also Matt Matthews 35:56

And Ellen can't remember a thing.

Kate 35:59

Let's muse on it guys. And we'll send you a letter back. seems like your addresses is actually within the, uh, tomato pasture building. Um, so we'll know where to find you.

Also Matt Matthews 36:14

And I just want to leave you with this when you're here. We are

Matt.Yachts 36:20

We're family. Yeah, I can't forget it.

Kate 36:24

Excellent. It makes us feel so anxious.

Matt Matthews 36:27

All right. Uh, we got to go and, we've got to meet with our lawyers here in a few minutes, so,

Kate 36:34

That makes sense.

Thea 36:35

yeah.

Matt Matthews 36:37

Uh, thank you so much.

Kate 36:39

Yes. Thanks so much.

Matt.Yachts 36:40

thank you, mats. Good luck. Yeah. Actually tell, tell John, we said hi.

Eric 36:44

You tell me, I'll tell John.

Matt Matthews 36:45

Okay.

Thea 36:46

Um,

Kate 36:47

Great. All right, I'll just stop the recording. Carry.

Eric 36:52

Okay.

Ben 36:54

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37:13

Matt Matthews and Matthews were played by Austin Weiford and Andrew Farley. You can hear them both with cohost Leah Morse on the better movie club podcast, an improv comedy podcast about movies that could be better. Find it on your favorite podcasting app or visit www.bettermovieclub.com for links.

Ben 37:28

Kate is played by Valerie Garrison. Valerie is a product manager and regularly plays with the improv troupe letters to chicken online. You can find her on Twitter at the vulgaris Eric has played by Barry. Right Barry is a product manager at Spotify and a co-founder of high-wire improv. Find him by his name on LinkedIn, where he holds regular office hours or@highwireimprov.com Matt is played by Martin Maguire Marty is a senior web engineer and improviser in New York city. You can find Marty's comedy code and cats on his website at M M G dot R E. Califia is played by Robin Stegman Robin is a digital campaign manager for ocean Conservancy and is a comedian mostly found at Highwire improv You can find her on all the social medias And she does mean all at our steaky Thank you for listening.