The Sinister Whispers of the Amityville Horror

What if the voices in your head weren't just figments of your imagination but sinister whispers urging you towards darkness? Join me, psychic medium Jamie Lynn, as we revisit the spine-chilling story of the Amityville Horror. Step into a world where the mere address of 112 or now 108 Ocean Avenue evokes fear, intrigue, and endless fascination. From the tragic 1974 DeFeo family murders to the harrowing experiences of the Lutz family, this episode promises to blur the line between fact and fiction, leaving you questioning the boundaries of the paranormal.

Experience the haunted past of the Lutz family as they grapple with the terrifying red eyes peering through their windows and mysterious hoofprints in the snow. Feel the tension rise with chilling encounters and a creeping dread that only escalates with the discovery of a hidden red room. The Lutz's desperate plea for help, and the eerie interference during their calls with Father Mancuso, weave a tale of horror that captivates and horrifies in equal measure. 

Paranormal legends Ed and Lorraine Warren make their entrance as we explore the darker aspects of the Amityville legend. The Warrens' confrontation with demonic forces adds another layer to this infamous narrative, ensuring that the Amityville Horror continues to captivate ghost hunters and thrill-seekers alike. As we wrap up this hair-raising journey, I invite you to keep your spirit charged and curiosity alive—because in the world of the supernatural, nothing is ever quite as it seems. Don't forget to follow the Electric Spirit Podcast on Instagram for more otherworldly adventures.

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Exploring the Amityville Horror House

Speaker 1 0:01

Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast where we dive into all things metaphysical and fun . Here's your host , psychic Medium , jamie Lynn .

Speaker 2 0:17

Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast . This is a special Halloween episode and I'm your host , psychic Medium , jamie Lynn . Today we're diving into one of the most infamous and chilling stories in paranormal history the Amityville Horror . This tale has captivated audiences for decades , sparking debate , skepticism and intrigue . So grab your favorite autumn beverage , dim the lights and let's unravel this eerie narrative together . The true story behind the Amityville Horror .

Speaker 2 0:49

In 1974 , the quiet town of Amityville , new York , was rocked by a gruesome tragedy . The DeFeo family , consisting of six members , were murdered in their home by their eldest son , ronnie DeFeo Jr . He claimed voices had compelled him to commit the heinous act . This shocking crime set the stage for what would become a legend . Just a year later , in December of 1975 , the Lutz family moved into the DeFeo house . George and Kathy Lutz , along with their three children , were initially thrilled by their new home , but soon they began to experience unsettling occurrences . They reported strange noises , cold spots and a feeling of being watched . George , in particular , became increasingly agitated , even claiming to wake up at 3 15 am every night the same time the DeFeo family was murdered . As the days turned into weeks , the situation escalated . The Lutz children claimed to see a pair of red eyes peering at them from the darkness and they felt an overwhelming sense of dread . In the house , kathy , the mother , experienced strange visions , including the apparition of a ghostly figure . The family ultimately fled the house just after living there for 28 days , convinced they were being tormented by malevolent forces .

Speaker 2 2:20

Now this house was a Dutch colonial . It's probably around , I heard . It's over 3 000 square feet , about five bedrooms , and it has a boathouse and it's on the water . Okay , and the let's a story quickly caught media attention , transforming it into a national sensation . And then , in 1977 , jay anson published the amityville horror , which dramat dramatized the Lutz's experience , and this book not only cemented the Lutz's story in pop culture , but also spawned a series of films I think there was five or more up to date or to date that have kept the tale alive for generations .

Speaker 2 3:02

However , the Lutz's experiences has been subject of intense scrutiny , and skeptics have pointed to inconsistencies in their accounts and even suggested that the family fabricated the haunting to profit from the tragedy . In 1979 , a polygraph test indicated that George Lutz might have been exaggerating . Despite this , the family maintained their story and the legend of the Amityville Horror only grew , and five months after , the Lutz family left . Ed and Lorraine Warren arrived at the Amityville home to conduct an investigation into what had tormented the family . Conduct an investigation into what had tormented the family and , according to the Warren's case files , ed was physically assaulted or pushed to the ground and Lorraine felt a deep sense of something demonic in the home and was overcome with visions of the DeFeo family and their bodies lying on the floor . The Warrens also captured a photo of a demon child standing in the home's basement and I know this might be hard to hear , but you could probably look in the transcripts of the show , but this is a short interview of Lorraine Warren talking about the Amityville Horror House . So , lorraine Warren .

Speaker 1 4:25

She was a clairvoyant and her a normal investigator .

Speaker 2 4:55

So she's claiming that if you could hear it it's kind of hard to understand a little bit , the audio is not real clear , but she's saying if you gave her a billion dollars she wouldn't stay in the house and she said there were demonic forces there . I also saw an interview with her saying you know , of course , given the circumstances of what happened there , there's just so much bad energy there and she said she'd never go back into the house . And they did have a lot of frightening experiences . I think in that clip I just played she said her body levitated off the floor . So it's very interesting .

Speaker 2 5:36

So the Warrens determined that there were demonic forces in the home because they did a paranormal investigation there and the Lutz family ultimately sold the property . And what happened to the Lutzes I just want to tell you . They sold the property and moved to California . So the Warrens thought there was something there , but they didn't investigate until after the Lutzes left , of course . So according to the New York Post , the house has had about four or more owners since the Lutzes left probably more by now and there have been no further reports of paranormal activity . But the Warrens claim to have encountered numerous paranormal phenomenon when investigating the house , including disembodied voices and unexplained cold spots . One particular infamous investigation with the Warrens they claim to have ghostly evidence on film . Like I said , the demon child and I think Lorraine , or some people think that they believe it could be the spirit of the deceased to fail children , think that they believe that it could be the spirit of the deceased DeFeo children . But anyways , today the Amityville Horror House is still a site of interest and while the current owners have tried to distance themselves from the haunting , the property is often the subject of tours and ghost hunting expeditions , keeping the story alive in the collective consciousness . And then Ronald DeFeo Jr , the one who killed his family , actually died in prison March 12th of 2021 . There is an interesting interview with him on YouTube if you're looking to see more about him . To see more about him . They claimed he was a model person in prison , so kind of interesting .

Speaker 2 7:34

But you know there's psychological impact on all this too . So you know what is it about the Amityville Horror House that continues to captivate us ? Well , on one hand , it's a tragic story of family torn apart by violence and fear , but on a deeper level , it taps into our primal fears of the unknown and the idea that our homes , which should be sanctuaries , can become places of terror . Psychologically , the phenomenon of haunting can also be examined through the lens of trauma , and the Lutz family experienced a significant life change after the DeFeo murders and it's possible that their fears and anxieties manifested into supernatural experiences . That's what some people believe . That's not what I believe . This interplay between reality and perception some feel , or some psychologists call haunted experiences , where stress and trauma distort our understanding of our environment .

Speaker 2 8:26

So you know , the cultural impact in modern interpretations of the Amityville Horror House has been a lasting impact on pop culture and beyond the books and the movies . It has influenced countless documentaries , podcasts and even art . The story has become a touchstone in discussions about the nature of evil and the questions of whether we're alone in the universe . And we look at modern interpretations , we see how the narratives have evolved . I mean new films and series continue to reinterpret the Lutz's experience , sometimes with a critical eye that challenges the authenticity of their claims , while other times amplifying the supernatural elements to frighten audiences . Moreover , the case has sparked debates around the ethics of horror storytelling , particularly the commercialization of tragedy . And should the DeFeo murders and the Lutz family experiences be turned into entertainment , or does this trivialize the very real pain involved ? You know that's one question we need to ask .

Speaker 2 9:31

So you know it looks like , you know , as as we look into the Amityville horror house we're kind of left with more questions than answers . I mean , was the house truly haunted or was it a product of psychological distress ? I feel the home was truly haunted . I feel that there were evil spirits talking to Ronald DeFeo Jr and I feel like he probably had a mental illness . But I also feel like there are evil spirits in that house , or there were , and that they had something to do with him killing his family . That's what I feel as a psychic , and so you know . But we're really drawn to these stories and perhaps the real horror lies not in the supernatural elements but in the very way . You know human emotions of fear , loss and grief resonate throughout this tale too . So , like Lorraine Warren said , there was so much stuff that went on in there , how could it not be haunted ? So I do agree with that . The other thing I wanted to mention is this house was on the water and that's a portal for things to come in . Usually , if you also live around the water , it can also make you very psychic . So it's interesting . I feel like there are a lot of portals in this home , and then the water is also a portal . They claimed in the basement there was some mysterious room down there and who knows ? I feel like that's even a portal too .

Speaker 2 11:03

I did do an automatic writing session where I channeled Ronald DeFeo , who is in the spirit world . He's on the other side and I asked it Ronald , if you're here , I'd like to understand why you took your family's lives in the Amityville Horror House . Now , as I was channeling automatic writing , I wrote , or he made me write , or whatever . I channeled him . It said they made me do it , the evil ones . And then I asked who are they ? Can you describe them ? And then , channeling Ronald DeFeo through automatic writing , it said shadows , voices in the dark . They promised me power . And then I asked did you feel that you had a choice ? Were you in control ? And then the automatic writing says no , I couldn't escape them . They took over my mind . And then I asked were you afraid of these spirits ? And then , through automatic writing and channeling , it said he was terrified . They wouldn't let him go . He thought it was the only way . And then I asked do you think the house had anything to do with it . And then , through automatic writing and channeling , it said the house is a trap , it feeds on fear , it let them in . So I guess the fear let them in . And then I asked are you sorry ? Were you sorry for what you did in this life ? And then automatic writing and channeling said sorry , question mark . They made me their puppet . I was just a tool . And then I asked is there anything you want to say to your family ? And through automatic writing and channeling , I wrote I wish I could have saved them . So that was the channeling session with Ronald DeFeo Jr , which I thought was really interesting and I really believe that there was something there . I don't feel that the Lutzes were lying about it . I feel like they did experience something . And so I'm going to just read an excerpt of the Amityville Horror Book by Jay Anson . Okay , so this is on page 114 . I'm going to read some pages here .

The Haunting of 108 Ocean Avenue

Speaker 2 13:34

After putting Missy to sleep , which was one of their children , kathy the mother , returned to the living room . George , the father , made his usual tour of the house , now , double-checking every window and door . He had already inspected the garage , the boathouse , and he took Harry the dog outside . Let's see what happens tonight . He told Kathy when he came back down it's not blowing at all out here by 10 pm .

Speaker 2 14:01

Both George and Kathy were feeling drowsy . His blazing fire was running out , but the heat was affecting their eyes . She waited until George had poked out the last embers of the fire and poured water over some still smoldering pieces of wood . Then Kathy turned off the chandelier and looked around to take her husband's hand into the darkness . Then she screamed .

Speaker 2 14:26

Kathy was looking past George's shoulder at the living room windows . Steering back at her were a pair of unblinking red eyes . As his wife screamed , george whirled around . He also saw the little beady red eyes staring directly into him . He jumped for the light switch and the eyes disappeared in the shining reflection of the glass pane . Hey , george , shouted . He burst through the front door and into the snow outside .

Speaker 2 14:56

The windows of the living room faced the front of the house . It didn't take George more than a second or two to get there . There was nothing at the windows . Kathy , he shouted , get my flashlight . George strained his eyes to see toward the back of the house in the direction of the Amityville River where they lived , and Kathy came out of the house with his flashlight in his parka , standing beneath the window where they had seen the eyes . They searched the fresh , unbroken snow . Then the yellow beam of the flashlight picked up a line of footprints extending clear around the corner of the house . No man or woman made those tracks . The prints had been left by cloven hoofs like those of an enormous pig . Wow , when George came out of the house in the morning , the cloven hoof tracks were still visible in the frozen snow . The animal's footprints led right past Harry's compound , ended at the entrance of the garage .

Speaker 2 16:01

George was speechless when he saw that the door to the garage was almost torn off its metal frame . George himself had closed and locked the heavy overhead door . To wrench it away from the frame would not only have created a great racket but it would require the strength far greater than a human being . George stood in the snow staring at the tracks in the wrecked door . His mind raced to the morning when he had found the front door torn open and the night he had seen the pig standing behind Missy at her window . He remembers saying out loud what the hell is going on around here . As he squeezed past the twisted door into the garage . He turned on the light and looked about . The garage was still packed with his motorcycle , the children's bicycles , an electric lawnmower that had been left by the DeFeos , the old gas-powered machine he had brought from Deer Park garden furniture , tools , equipment , cans of paint and oil . The concrete floor of the garage was covered with a light dusting of snow that had drifted in through the partly open door . Obviously it had been off its frame for several hours . Is anybody in here ? George shouted . Only the sound of whistling wind outside the garage answered him .

Speaker 2 17:19

By the time George drove off to his office , he was more angry than frightened . If he had any tear of the unknown , it had been dismissed by the thought of what it was going to cost him to repair the damaged door . He didn't know if the insurance company would pay him for something like this and he just didn't need $200 or $ dollars of extra expense . George doesn't recall how he ever maneuvered the Ford van over the dangerous snow and ice covered roads to Sussex I hope I'm pronouncing that right . It's a city . His frustration at being unable to comprehend his bad luck blocked out any concern for his own safety At the office . He quickly occupied himself with his immediate problems and then for the next several hours was able to put away any thoughts about 112 Ocean Avenue . I think they now changed the address to 108 Ocean Avenue because they don't want people coming to look at the house .

Speaker 2 18:25

Before he left home , george had told Kathy about the garage door and the tracks in the snow . She started calling her mother , but there was no answer . Then Kathy remembered that Joan had always shopped on Friday mornings . Rather than buck the Saturday crowds of the supermarket , she went upstairs to her bedroom intending to change the linen in all the rooms and vacuum the rugs . Kathy's mind raced with the details of thoroughly cleaning her house for the first time .

Speaker 2 18:54

If she didn't occupy herself completely until George returned , she knew she'd fall to pieces . She had just finished putting some fresh cases on her pillows and was plummeting them . Plumping them , I'm sorry . And then she was embraced from behind . She froze and then instinctively called out Danny . She thought it was one of the kids .

Speaker 2 19:20

The grip around her waist tightened . It was stronger than the familiar woman's touch she had experienced in the kids . The grip around her waist tightened . It was stronger than the familiar woman's touch she had experienced in the kitchen . So Kathy was touched before Kathy sensed that a man was holding her increasingly and the pressure was intense as she struggled Let me go , please . She whimpered . The pressure eased suddenly and then the hands released her waist . She felt them move up to her shoulders . Slowly her body was being turned around to face the unseen presence In terror . Kathy became aware of the overwhelming stench of the same cheap perfume she smelled earlier . Then another pair of hands gripped her wrists .

Speaker 2 20:05

Kathy says she sensed a struggle going on over the possession of her body , that somehow she had been trapped between two powerful forces . Escape was impossible and she felt she was going to die . The pressure on her body became overwhelming and Kathy passed out . When she came to she was lying half off the bed with her head almost touching the floor . Danny had come into the room to answer her call . Kathy knew the presences were gone and she couldn't have been out more than a moment . Call daddy at the office . Danny Hurry . Danny returned in a few minutes . The man on the telephone says Daddy just left . He thinks he's coming back here .

Speaker 2 20:48

George did not come back to the house until early afternoon when he reached Amityville . He drove up to Merrick Road toward his street and stopped off at the Witch's Brew for a beer . The neighborhood bar was warm and empty . The jukebox and television set were silent and the only sounds in the place were those of the bartender washing the glasses . When George entered , the man looked up and recognized him from the other day . Hey man , good to see you again . George nodded and returned and stood up at the bar A Miller he ordered . George watched while the bartender filled a glass . He was a roly-poly young guy somewhere in his late 20s with a stomach that suggested he liked to sample the beer he sold . George took a long sip , half emptying the tall stein before putting it down on the dark wood bar .

Speaker 2 21:41

Tell me something George belched . Did you know the DeFeos ? The young man had resumed his glass washing . He nodded yeah , I knew them . Why I'm living in their house now and I know knew them why I'm living in their house now and I know . The bartender interrupted . George lifted his eyebrows in surprise . The first time you came in here you said you moved into 112 Ocean . That's the DeFeo's .

Speaker 2 22:07

George finished off his beer . Did they ever come in here ? The bartender put a clean glass and wiped his hands on a towel . Only Ronnie did Sometimes . He brought in his sister Dawn , a cute kid . He picked up George's empty glass . You know you look a lot like Ronnie the beard and all . I think you're older than he is , though Did he ever talk about their house ?

Speaker 2 22:34

The bartender put a new beer in front of George . The house , yeah , you know . Did he ever say anything that was funny going on in there ? Stuff like that . George took a sip . You think there's something bad about the joint , I mean now after the murders ? No , no , george raised a hand . I was just asking whether he ever did anything before that night . The bartender looked around the bar as if to confirm that there was no one else around . Ronnie never said anything like that to me personally . He leaned closer to George , but I'll tell you something . I was there once . They threw a big party and Ronnie's old man hired me to take care of the bar .

Speaker 2 23:17

George had half finished his second beer . What did you think of the place ? The bartender spread his arms on the bar . Big , a real big joint . I didn't see too much of it , though I was down in the basement . A lot of booze and beer flowed

The Haunting of the Red Room

Speaker 2 23:34

through .

Speaker 2 23:34

That night it was their anniversary . He looked around the bar again . Did you know that they got a secret room down in the basement . George pretended to be to not know no , where . The bartender said you take a look behind those closets and you'll find something that will really shake you . Look behind those closets and you'll find something that will really shake you .

Speaker 2 23:57

George leaned over the bar . What was it ? A room , a little room . I found it that night . I was down in the basement and there's this plywood closet built up beside the stairs . I'm using it to ice the beer in see . And when I bumped a peg against one of the ends of the closet , it seemed the whole wall is loose , you know , like a secret panel , something out of an old movie . What about the room ? George prodded . Bartender nodded yeah well , I bumped the plywood . It came open and I could see this dark space behind it . The light bulb wasn't working , so I lit a match and sure enough , there's this weird little room all painted red . You're putting me on , george protested . The bartender put his right hand over his heart . God's honest truth , man . So help me , you'll see .

Speaker 2 24:47

George finished his second beer . I'll certainly have to look for that . He put a dollar on the bar . That's for the beers . He put down another , that's for yourself . Hey , man , thanks . The bartender looked up at George . You want to know something real flaky about that little room . I used to have nightmares about it . Nightmares Like what ? Oh , sometimes I dream that people , I don't know who were there , were killing dogs and pigs in there and using their blood for some kind of ceremony . Dogs and pigs yeah , the bartender waved his hand in disgust . I guess the place , the red paint and all really got to me when George got home .

Speaker 2 25:29

He and Kathy both had stories to tell each other . She described a frightening event in their bedroom and he related what the bartender said at the witch's room , and he also told her about the red room in the basement . The Lutz family finally realized that there was something going on that was beyond their control . Please call Father Mancuso Kathy . Begged Ask him to come back . Call Father Mancuso Kathy . Begged ask him to come back .

Speaker 2 25:59

Father Mancuso's superiors had been concerned with his health and had dropped by to look in on him . Father Mancuso told them that he felt much better that morning . They also decided to spend some time together to review the priest's workload . Most of the backlog was quickly cleared up and put on his briefcase . A secretary would do the typing .

Speaker 2 26:20

Father Mancuso saw the clerics to the building's entrance , then walked back to his apartment . The phone was ringing . He was still wearing the soft white cotton surgical gloves he had found in his drawer . The priest had explained to the bishop that he put them on his hands to protect them from cold , but the real motive was to hide the ugly rawness of his blisters . The priest's telephone rang five times before he picked it up . Hello , this is Father Mancuso . The voice on the other end came through loud and clear . Father , this is George .

Speaker 2 26:54

The priest couldn't believe his ears . It was as if George was standing right in the room with him . He was so surprised . He blurted out George , george Lutz , kathy's husband . Oh hi , how are you ? George held the receiver away from his ear and looked at Kathy standing next to him in the kitchen . What's with him ? He whispered to her . He sounds like he doesn't remember me .

Speaker 2 27:18

Father Mancuso knew who George was all right , but he still was stunned to hear him on an open line , without any interference at all . I'm sorry , george , I didn't mean to be rude . I just wasn't ready for your call this way after all the trouble I've had reaching you . Yeah , answered George . I know what you mean . Father Mancuso waited for George to continue , but there was only silence . George , you still there ? Yes , father , said George . I'm here and Kathy's right beside me . He looked at his wife . We want you to come back and bless the house .

Speaker 2 27:54

Father Mancuso thought of what had befallen on him the first time he had blessed the Lutz's home . He looked at his white gloved hands . Father , can you come right away ? The priest hesitated . He didn't want to go back there , but he couldn't tell George that in so many words . Well , george , he finally answered . I don't know if I can come right now . I have the flu again . You see , the doctor doesn't want me running around in this cold weather . Well , george interrupted , when can you come ?

Speaker 2 28:25

Father Mancuso began to look for a way out . Why do you want me to bless the house again ? You don't do that just like a drop of a hat , george . You don't do that just like a drop of a hat , george . And George was desperate . Look , we owe you a dinner . You come and Kathy will cook the best steak you've ever had . Then you can stay overnight . Oh , I couldn't do that , george . Well , we'll make you drunk enough to stay .

Speaker 2 28:49

Father Mancuso couldn't believe what he just heard . You just don't say stuff like that to a priest . Listen here , young man . You , father , we're in a lot of trouble . We need your help . The priest's anger evaporated . What's the matter ? He said there are things happening around this house we don't understand . We've seen a lot of .

Speaker 2 29:14

And then the telephone line began to crackle on both ends . What'd you say , george ? I didn't hear you . There would be no more conversation between the two men . There was no longer anything to be heard on the line but static and loud whirling sounds . Both men knew it was no use and hung up their telephones . George turned to Kathy and looked around the room . It started again . It's killing the phone . By the time Father Mancuso put down the receiver , his hands were burning again . God forgive me , he said aloud , but George is going to have to get help from someone else . There's no way I'm going back in that house .

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Speaker 2 29:50

And that was an excerpt from the Amityville Horror Book . I like it . Get it if you're interested . I think it's less than $15 on Amazon . But I hope you loved our Halloween special and enjoyed learning about the Amityville Horror , and I hope you all have a very happy Halloween and stay scary .

Speaker 1 30:14

Thank you for listening to the Electric Spirit Podcast with your host , psychic medium , jamie Lynn . Find us on Instagram at Electric Spirit Podcast . Be sure to join us next time . Recharging your energy , recharging your magic , recharging your spirit . Until then , ciao . Recharging your magic , recharging your spirit . Until then , ciao .