Exploring the Supernatural with Barbara With: Interactions with the Spirit World, Historical Figures, and Our Shared Consciousness

Stepping into the unknown, your host, Douglas James Cottrell, invites you on an extraordinary journey with our gifted guest, Barbara With. Renowned as a remarkable medium, Barbara opens up about her life-changing experiences that transformed her from a young songwriter to an incredible communicator for spirits. Brace yourself as she recounts her astonishing experiences of playing the piano, writing songs, and her early interactions with the spirit world - a world that has allowed her to connect with the likes of Albert Einstein. 

A pivotal point in Barbara's story is her encounter with the Psychic Sorority in 1993. This was no ordinary meeting - voices claimed to be angels, not only acknowledged her supernatural abilities but also assigned her a monumental mission for world peace. Barbara will take us through her life-altering experiences of conversing with famous personalities from beyond the grave. Listen as she retells her conversations with the spirit of Princess Diana and Albert Einstein, including Einstein's profound insights about his Unified Field Theory. This theory reveals the intricate connection between human consciousness and our physical world in ways you've never heard before. 

Lastly, Barbara generously offers guidance on exploring your spiritual path. She shares the importance of patience, skepticism, openness, and utilizing your imagination. As we delve deeper into the supernatural realm, we'll discuss the significance of the Russell Einstein Manifesto and introduce you to our free online Conflict Revolution classes. So, join us on this awe-inspiring journey into the world of Barbara Witt, and experience the extraordinary intersection of the living and the deceased, discussing world peace and our shared consciousness. Prepare to have your mind opened and your beliefs challenged as we embark on this exceptional exploration of life, death, and the spaces in between.

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This episode was produced by Paul Hughes, with co-production by Jack Bialik and audio engineering by Doug M Cottrell.

Transcript

Announcer: 0:00

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Douglas James Cottrell: 0:43

Well, welcome to the program again. My friends, I have a wonderful guest today who's going to tell us all about what it's like to talk to Albert Einstein and other famous people. I'm joined with Barbara With today, who is a medium extraordinaire and she has been practicing her abilities, her work, for a long time, so she has great experience. And again, we're all curious about that question is there life after death? Well, I certainly believe so. I think anybody that is convinced they have a soul would also believe that. But today we're going to get some evidence about that. So I'm going to say welcome to the show, Barbara. It's great to have you here today.

Barbara With: 1:31

Thank you, douglas. It's so great to be here. I love, love, love having these kinds of conversations and everybody wants to have them more and more right now. So my intuitive gift started with music. When I was very young, had a kind of supernatural ability to climb up on the piano and figure out how to play the piano and then by 12, I was writing songs, these kind of goth folk songs. This is the 70s, 60s, 70s and and to me that was later on I figured out that's channeling. I would go into some space where I like, outer space and listen and I would hear the songs already written and I would listen for them and remember them and bring them back. So how I transitioned from that to being knowing that I talked to Albert Einstein is kind of an epic lifetime journey that I'd like to try to condense down into a short time, but bear with me if I if it gets a little convoluted. There's so many moving parts to it.

Barbara With: 2:46

I was this extraordinary young songwriter and during high school I ended up going to see my friend. Mike had a mom named Eunice who gave readings, air quotes. We didn't call her a channeler, it's she. He just said come and see what my mom can do. So here was his beautiful Buddha, like mother, who sat before this picture of Jesus and lit a candle and said, just kind of went out of her and her voice changed and she said the most amazing, divine, insightful, inspiring things about me and the music and where I was going with it and what it was meant and the healing power of the music. And so I had an experience of going to see a psychic when I was young, but she didn't talk to anybody, she would just said she was an antenna and she would go into outer space and she would listen for my higher power, what I wanted to ultimately tell myself. So that's how I grew up, knowing it.

Douglas James Cottrell: 3:56

Well, that's interesting. So she kind of told you the question before you asked it, because your high self was sort of giving her the nudge or or some indication. Wow, how old were you when that was going on?

Barbara With: 4:10

I think my first reading I was probably 16. And I'd been writing music for for three or four years in response to, I must say, a very hellish childhood. I had a lot of abuse and dissociation and all of that ugly. There was no place in my family where there was, but in any case I was taking it out in these songs that I was writing and she was able to give me some. I mean, I'm 16. My father's long gone, my mother's working 60 hours a week and an alcoholic anyway, so she's giving me some spiritual guidance that I could figure out for myself. I didn't go to church and I didn't really have a family per se that I could spiritually be safe with, so so it was self learning as you go.

Douglas James Cottrell: 5:07

Did you feel alienated? Did you feel like on your own, like sort of like alone in a crowd, kind of thing?

Barbara With: 5:13

I mean as far as an upbringing.

Douglas James Cottrell: 5:15

Yeah.

Barbara With: 5:17

Yeah, I was the baby of four and my mother and father fought, from the moment long before I was born, viciously at each other and he was sexually abusive and emotionally abusive and they were both alcoholics and she was a speed freak in the fifties. You know diet pills and we all picked up just terrible, horrible self images and being subjected to that much screaming and yelling and people just fighting to the bitter end, everybody getting as ugly as they can.

Douglas James Cottrell: 5:52

So I've heard other musicians, like Johnny Cash, who said that he heard in his dream one of his songs where the trumpets were playing. And so he wrote the song and he hired three musicians to come in and play the trumpet and they said what should we do? He said, well, you'll figure it out, just listen to the song. And so they went over and I'm sorry I can't remember the title of that song that it was very famous and very popular, but it had the trumpets in the background and basically it was from his dream or something. He, I think in a way similar to what you do, channel that information. So, as you're writing songs and you're getting information from the ethers, how, when was that first time you made the leap, if I can call it that, to getting in contact with a? I like to call them ghost people. You know disease that's my term for it but can you remember how that happened the first time or how you got? Was it a surprise or was it something you will attempt to do?

Barbara With: 7:01

Well, as far as becoming a channel like Eunice was, I did that before before the ghost people. I started automatic writing spontaneously and knew what it was, but obviously. But when I asked them who they were, they just said sound.

Douglas James Cottrell: 7:26

So you're pulling information from the ethers, if I can call it that, or from beyond your own intellect, and you did that for a long time, I guess. And was it become like a daily practice or it was natural for you?

Barbara With: 7:41

Well, I started giving readings all those many years ago.

Douglas James Cottrell: 7:45

Really Wow.

Barbara With: 7:46

In 1987, I started giving readings and I nobody people came, it was all referral. I just I gave a couple of people readings and said, hey, if you know, refer people, people would come maybe twice a year and nobody ever really talked much about what was said actually in the reading and I don't really remember people's readings in that way. But in 1993, I wanted to do a group channel because I was really into Edgar Cayce and Jane Roberts both both channels in their own nature, and I wanted to know what these voices of we because when I would channel it would be we would say to a bunch of people and I couldn't find anybody within my circle that I was already working with. But then started to come these women first came Teresa, and then she sent Jeanine and then she sent, and so there were like five or six referral women who had come for private readings. And then they sent Kim and when Kim came my energy level of the reading was significantly through the roof. I was like talking a mile a minute and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and Kim took her reading, went home, transcribed it and then called me to ask me to talk about what did it mean? What does this mean. What does that mean? And this is the first time anybody had ever done such a thing, and I was fascinated. Well, I don't know, let's talk about it. So they were the first group reading that I did in December of 1993.

Barbara With: 9:28

We call ourselves the psychic sorority and we started meeting on a regular basis and I would channel for the group, we would record them, transcribe them and make those transcripts available to whoever we had called in that day or who was ever there to be a part of this information. And so that December 1993 transcript is the first time I'd ever really listen to what the information that was coming out of me. What is this, what is this really all about? And it rapidly turned into something. I had no idea what. And so they told us right from the beginning you're on a mission and we have a revolutionary way to resolve conflict that we need to test on you For world peace. We call it world peace, one person at a time, starting with self as an antidote for world peace. And we need some humans to test this revolutionary way to resolve conflict with unreal conflicts. And when Kim and Teresa asked who are you in a reading, they said you can call us angels, thank you.

Douglas James Cottrell: 10:54

Wow, you have this sorority or this group of invisible friends, if I could say that is for people listening to this who might not, might be kind of wondering what is you talking about?

Douglas James Cottrell: 11:07

Kind of thing you know, because a lot of people this is very foreign to them and the idea of talking to deceased people there's always a fear that you're being misguided by the dark side or the negative side. But it seems to me you went through a transition of being somewhat, you know, outside your family and at a troubled home, which a lot of the people I've interviewed have had difficulties, experiences on their own and been very poor, slept in cars, had trauma in their early life, but it seems to be a consistent I don't know if that's that's the case for everybody, but there seems to be a lot of this inward looking sort of a sense of as a child wondering about justice, and this isn't the way it's supposed to be. But you went through this evolution of reaching out at automatic writing, which again for people to explain that it's kind of getting information in your hand, those that are writing, and you don't think about the word, so to speak, and then you read it later, what you wrote, if that's what you're yes exactly.

Douglas James Cottrell: 12:12

That's my understanding of it. I don't do it myself, so, but anyway, you were expert at that. And then, surprise, you do this group reading and everybody's absolutely amazed at the information you're getting, and then you have to read it back yourself to find out what you said. Well, that's astounding as far as the average person would say. So, as you're doing this, obviously there's a group of people interested in what you're saying. It's meaningful, they're coming back for more research. And then you have this mission to go on of world peace, starting with one person at a time, which I love. I think that's just an amazing initiation, if you will, of people doing this. How did you make the transition to talking to some of the famous people and did they have the same intention of speaking, if they will, through you to get a message, like Albert Einstein? How did that happen?

Barbara With: 13:10

Well, the three of us, Kim and Theresa and I, published our diaries about that time, about our first initial time together. We published them in 1997, diaries of a Psychic Sorority. And at that time I had an agent, a literary agent, and a tabloid in London reached out to her, a paranormal sort of metaphysical tabloid, who was looking for an interview with Princess Diana from Beyond the Grave on the one-year anniversary of her death. And you asked me, how did I get from an antenna? Well then we went to Angels, which we could talk about in a second. My skepticism even of what does that mean? How do we know any of this? But to speak to people who had passed on, that started happening to me. A friend of mine, my first friend who ever died, died and there was a significant shift in my ability to communicate. But these were her friends who had passed on, or Kim's mother who had passed, not like me, pretending I could go to some famous person and talk and interview them.

Barbara With: 14:31

That sounded a little gratuitous almost to me and kind of not what I was about, like cheap seeking. But I thought about it and thought about it and I thought, well, what will it hurt to try? I have a big imagination and so I'll just do it. So I sat down and in automatic writing, what you sort of do is you get out of your head a bit, you just get out of the way. What I do is I make my ego voice, that you know that, that I imagine it really tiny and it's sitting in a little chair, so there's all this room, and then I just imagine and I let whatever comes through me, because at this point you can't be wrong about it. You're not going to. It's not something that I think would overtake you if some demon came in. It's not like that at all. It's more like imagination, trusting your imagination.

Barbara With: 15:27

So I imagine I was talking to her. I saw apparently was channeling the questions and the answers and I typed them and I printed it and I went to read it and that was when I started to get this feeling that there was something more here, because it was very profound and had some very detailed information. But what's most profound is that her whole message is about peace, that if all the 40 million people who put flowers on her grave would make peace, that we could get to world peace. And because of that the tablet didn't really want it. They wanted to know about Charles and Camilla.

Douglas James Cottrell: 16:08

I wanted that dirt on the couple and the rumors and that you know, like that, most watering details about the intimacies between the royal family members and the whatever, whatever you know, Camilla and her friend, et cetera. I could see that that would be exciting, but that's not what you're all about. It gives it sort of a tone of being genuine, so to speak.

Barbara With: 16:33

And Diana, diana would never. It took me all this time I did that interview in 1998, took me till this year to realize she never would have said anything about them. Anyway, that's who she was. She would not have mentioned them in her space because she was and wouldn't go there. And I love that. I love that about her.

Douglas James Cottrell: 16:56

But we're all waiting for you to come up with some secret. So, in lieu of that, what was it that she said about peace? I mean encouraging people to have world peace and putting that energy of remorse and grief in a positive way forward to help people. What would she actually have said that you could tell her audience?

Barbara With: 17:20

about peace.

Douglas James Cottrell: 17:21

Yes.

Barbara With: 17:23

Oh well, after she told us in great detail what she and Dodie were at odds about in their relationship, which is also very intriguing.

Douglas James Cottrell: 17:36

That's the point I'd like you to elaborate on. Everybody wants to know about that, Well what she?

Barbara With: 17:41

said was no, what she said was they were. They kind of had this argument because she did not want to be worshiped. She did not want to be worshiped and he was an Arab man who has had a culture behind him as well, as he worshiped her. And so she said, when we were out to dinner that night we were having this kind of playful conversation, but it was all about how I don't want to be worshiped.

Douglas James Cottrell: 18:12

Well, does that ever make sense? Wow, I know.

Barbara With: 18:15

And I could relate to it. Not that people rush all over the world to worship me, but I've been in dynamics of situations where somebody has a little bit of worshipy thing going on and like you don't want it anyway, but of course Diana, of course she would not want to be worshiped, her, in where she was at that time and she made some predictions about the boys that they weren't. You know, it wasn't a great deal of brain surgery in them, but she just talked about their natures and how Harry, it's Harry and William, right, Is that it? I can't remember.

Douglas James Cottrell: 18:53

Harry and yeah.

Barbara With: 18:56

That the younger one was gonna be much more like her, much more emotionally, and the older one was gonna follow in. You know, charles is more like in Charles's way, but they were gonna make this kind of switch when they got older and you'd see them going and doing a lot of work for the world. So there's a lot of stuff that I can't remember right off the top of my head. But it was really profound to read all that and think that maybe this was really, but why not? Maybe there's more. My agent and I decided to see if there were more more famous dead people who wanted to talk to me.

Douglas James Cottrell: 19:36

And you got to Albert Einstein.

Barbara With: 19:39

Well, we made a list and, oddly enough, he wasn't on the first list.

Douglas James Cottrell: 19:43

Who would say, let's see Albert Einstein, let's channel him? No, I'd be thinking Marilyn Monroe. I'd be. You know some. You know other world famous people. You know maybe Henry. Gandhi. Yeah, you know so well how did that happen? How did Albert show up?

Barbara With: 20:03

Well, now, remember by this time this is 1998, we had been the three of us in the psychic sorority, had been giving these step-by-step instructions for world peace, one person at a time, this revolutionary way to resolve conflict first within the self, as a way to get to global peace. You don't go right at global peace, you have to go first in, right here. And so we had this process and we were trained by these angels to do this and we did it. We had fights, the three of us, and we would get the transcripts and we would peace our way. It's like building a nest, almost. It's like you have to. Just what does this mean? And how does this mean? We had to test it when we were actually fighting, and so it was really a monumental effort on the three of our parts to take these angels seriously. But the point was and this gets to what people say well, how do you know it wasn't you know bad angels?

Douglas James Cottrell: 21:07

They were being deceived.

Barbara With: 21:09

Yeah, what they were telling us to do was transforming our lives in basically I'll just say it basically they were teaching us how to love ourselves, how to take care of ourselves, how to honor ourselves, how to resolve our own conflicts, how to articulate ourselves, how to be inspired and inspiring. And ending with, what does it mean to be compassionate? So that was what we were learning and it was having profound effects on all our relationships and our opportunities and clearing up conflicts within. All that was creating more synchronicity. So it was a grand experiment that we were in. So when we were asking who might be next in this to step up to talk Elvis or who second was Nicole Brown Simpson.

Douglas James Cottrell: 22:03

Really, that's interesting.

Barbara With: 22:07

And we asked Gandhi and Mother Teresa and probably Elvis before we got to Nicole Brown Simpson. But when she stepped up, that was also a very profound conversation, cause I it dispelled this idea that you just die and suddenly you're just in this happy place, no matter what. She's like oh no, not when you get murdered by your husband and you see your children left behind with him.

Douglas James Cottrell: 22:36

Okay, hold it right there. We're going to take a short break, we'll be right back. Okay.

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Douglas James Cottrell: 23:54

So just before the break, you were talking about Nicole Simpson and she was conveying to you what it was like after she had passed over and was watching her family, or, let's say, the fallout from that. So what did she say? How did she convey that to you, how she felt?

Barbara With: 24:16

Well, I think, to sum it up, her point was that forgiveness is the test, and that was her test right now, because she was still in a place where she was in that courtroom every day. She was all around her kids, she was not gonna let go and she had her own turbulent emotional body in her hologram, however you wanna say it, that had her totally connected. And so she was really articulate about outlining how he grew up, what influences created, what dynamic, what's kind of socio-cultural, racial dynamic within him as a black man in a white world, et cetera. And then about abuse, about how domestic abuse, kind of the dynamic of what went on with them.

Douglas James Cottrell: 25:19

So she was understanding and forgiving him, so to speak.

Barbara With: 25:23

She was working on it.

Douglas James Cottrell: 25:26

Well, yeah, working on it is probably a good term, a work in progress. I know it's interesting to say she was around watching all this in the courtroom and things like that. So that speaks to question about the people. When they pass over, they can hang around like sort of the earthbound. They don't necessarily go to heaven or some other place.

Barbara With: 25:49

Well, and later on we can get a touch on how Einstein maps out in his unified field theories why there's really nowhere to go.

Douglas James Cottrell: 25:59

Okay, well, let's do that now, because that sounds like the answer. Well, how about that?

Barbara With: 26:06

Well, when he got, when I was decided in 2005, it was the 100 year anniversary of E = MC squared and I wanted to do just a book for Einstein. So I channeled a bunch of sessions and then I set him out to edit, imagining he was here guiding my editing, and so that time is where he was bringing forth his unified field theory, which he never did when he was alive. That includes these maps of human consciousness that explain not only how matter is manifest but our relationship consciously to it. So in the basic premise is that the beginning of all life begins in the center of the earth and with a compilation of consciousness. So you have one, I have one.

Barbara With: 27:01

It's a compilation of all of the mathematics that make up everything that's here, and from that compilation there's a gravitational wave that flows. It's my wave, you have your wave, and on that wave it's flowing up literally through the planet to the surface of the planet. And when it gets to the surface and it gets to the outside, there's the inner and the outer. That's where the lens is created, that's where we are sitting here separate the computer is now separate from me, but it's all originating on this wave that's coming up through separating out and the wave continues on out into the heavens until it reaches the earth's electromagnetic field and it goes back up through the North Pole, back down into the center of the planet, which Einstein says serves like a black hole. It operates like a black hole and then it spins again, and it spins at the speed of light, squared.

Barbara With: 28:01

And what slows it all down and separates it all out is this thing they call the human intention. So it's like a mechanism, it's like a prism. Here's the spinning string, it's got all your mathematics and so there's the mathematics of your DNA in your body and there's like a hologram. You can't see in that dark energy, but you can see the gravitational waves in that spinning string.

Barbara With: 28:28

But when the human intention comes out of the source, out into the heavens, to the observer, and then the lens, almost like a prism, lowers down over the spinning string and it creates that lens that we're sitting in and everything separates out through our bodies, because our body is the projector and the perceiver of the world. So when we lose our bodies and go to be ghost people, all of that mathematics that spins on forever, that hologram of who we'd been, and it's literally in that space. So, as you, we're not going any. There's like we're of a different frequency and light matter or anti, anti matter, whichever you'd call it, but there's really not anywhere that we go. And when Einstein wants to talk through me, he rides that wave up. I give him permission to be a part of my body that's coagulating and we share thoughts, feelings and senses.

Douglas James Cottrell: 29:37

And he speaks, and, or whomever Well, does he talk to you often or is this you know, every once in a while? Or do you see Volunteer to show up? I'm sure he's pretty busy over there and lots to do on the other side. You know, we're keeping the world together.

Barbara With: 29:53

There's a lot to do on the other side, and that's what he is doing. Well, I have to tell you, though, in going back to party to, to Nicole Brown, simpson and this, these people who wanted to talk, by the time we did John, john F Kennedy, and, and and that also has been now what he says what had now been proven about what really happened to him. But it was him who said now, we're gonna tell you, from here on in, who is coming, because we have, we've been writing this book, and, and we want these interviews to go in this book, and we'll tell you who's coming next. It's like, okay, and then it was Einstein.

Barbara With: 30:38

Wow and when I sat down and Open myself up and got out of the way that energy Was long familiar. It was Not just the voice that had been coming through me in my private readings that I was doing when I was just an antenna, it Was something so far back in the music, because Einstein too was was a Musician. In fact he probably would have preferred to have been a musician than a scientist in this last life. So I felt really like that's when I decided I had to do just a book for him. But they also sent Sigmund Freud and I had no idea about these people. I didn't, I wasn't. I mean, I knew who he was, basically, but I couldn't have told you much about his life. Or did he know Einstein? Or?

Douglas James Cottrell: 31:36

so you get to know these, these personalities, if I can call them that, after they've, you know, signed up to to participate in your, in your research? Have some of the things you've said Actually told me that John F Kennedy, some of the things that happened that were told to you and then they were verified later in the news or whatnot? There are other things like that that happened with Einstein and had some of these other personalities.

Barbara With: 32:07

Oh my gosh, I learned Just recently that so, so there's fraud. This is a book that became party of 12, the afterlife interviews, and it was Freud, einstein, hitler, anwar Sadat holy moly and their whole point of this book was they ended with a manifesto to the destiny of world peace.

Barbara With: 32:37

So they State and they sign we're gonna do this until life, after life, but it's a destiny that we're going to create this world, where that's based on compassion, that we're, we're meant to really learn how to do. So their whole, their whole, a commission, is world peace.

Douglas James Cottrell: 33:00

Well, that's really interesting. You had some light beings bringing intellectual things in the world, like Einstein and the revelations, like Mrs Brown, if you will, nicole to Diana, who you know had some world influence while she was walking the earth, and now is joined up with a, a group of like-minded ghost people and Seems like they're working, reaching back, trying to help us. You know like I Like that idea in this day and age. We now are going through a time of great difficulty in the Middle East and in Europe with Ukraine and Russia. So these people coming into the world in the past Through you, you think they were trying to prepare us for now.

Barbara With: 33:54

Well, most definitely, and also remember that these people, when they were alive, were working on this. In 1932, the League of Nations had a Special committee called the Intellectual Cooperation Committee To try to bring together the nations of the world that it were torn apart by World War one, and One of the ways they were going to do it was to stimulate public conversation by thought leaders such as Einstein and Publish them, because this is 1932, right, there's no internet, etc. So they asked Einstein and he said yes, I want to write to Sigmund Freud. So they published this series of letters back and forth, and his question was how do we end war? And Freud said maybe we have one world government. And very quickly they talked about it and thought no, that's not a good idea, because it's easier to denature plutonium than it is to get evil out of men. And so Freud didn't really know what to say. But he said I'm giving you some three informal ideas. So the first way to end war is to nurture really hungry, open minds that are seeking for the truth. The second thing is to build community where you know each other and you're connected. And the third was to tell people the truth about how horrible war is, and let them understand and be moved that they have to stand up to say no to it because it's so awful.

Barbara With: 35:42

So in 1955, einstein his last paper that he was working on. They read it after he died. It was called the Russell Einstein Manifesto, and he did just that. He urged nations to settle their differences peacefully and to create community amongst the world, but he also warned exactly what would happen if we went to World War III. And this was before what we have now. This was just after the bombs in Hiroshima, but they were speculating in the Russell Einstein Manifesto that if there's a war waged with the hydrogen bombs that are coming out now, you might think that, oh yeah, moscow will get bombed and that won't hurt us. No, no, those people get to go first, and then we get to suffer the long, slow death of watching our grandchildren be poisoned by the air and the food and die these deaths. So he really did take it seriously what Freud had said to him.

Barbara With: 36:55

So what getting back, though? Those are the sorts of things that I've unfolded through the years that have made given me the evidentiary pieces of it that make me go. Yeah, this is everything's a mystery at its root, but I believe that this is the, the ghosts of these people who, in real life, were attached to the idea of peace and went into the afterlife with the intention and who else but Einstein would go? His two big things, the unified field theory and world peace, he took with him into afterlife, figured it out, found a way, found out the answer, made his unified field theory and then found a way to get it back to humans. I mean, that's an Einsteinian as far as. As far as I'm concerned, I find that amazing.

Douglas James Cottrell: 37:50

What's in my mind is nights at the round table, cabalot, you know. Everybody coming together for the greater good. And these people in some place beyond the earth are holding meetings, conversations, debates. Freud and Einstein, my gosh. So did they ever tell you what it's like over there? Did they ever describe the environment?

Barbara With: 38:15

Well, einstein, in my first tribute to him, imagining Einstein essays on M theory, world peace and the science of compassion, he tries in the beginning to describe what it was like when he died, and he said what I've heard over and over again since then was that it was like more than getting shot out of a cannon that you just accelerate when you lose matter, you gain, when you lose mass, you gain speed and so, but that makes sense.

Barbara With: 38:52

Yeah, and it's mathematical If you, you know, turn the math around to a sweet or speed, you know and if you slow down the energy, then you get mass.

Barbara With: 39:02

So and don't ask me, I I'm not a mathematician or a scientist, I just always wanted to be a rock star myself. But anyway, that's what he says. So it's what he says is that we interface in the non physical. So you and I and everybody sitting here with bodies, we have it's called our bigger operating system, that's in the non physical part of reality, and there is a non physical part and there's this physical part, and then there's outside the lens, and so we share that energy, whether we have a body or not. Most of us don't remember in the course of a day what our non physical is doing, but it's there. And when we die, I think that's why it feels like coming home, it's not like, oh, I have to leave, it's like, oh, oh, there's this part of me that's been here all the time and I just never even knew it. So, and then a lot with imagination and intention of what they experience.

Douglas James Cottrell: 40:08

Well, listen, Barbara, how could people get a hold of you? They keep in contact with you. Maybe you're going to do a session for them or they could buy your book again. What's your website and how could people get a hold of you?

Barbara With: 40:21

Well, I've got several websites. So, barbarawith. com, that's where you can book a reading or read about that. I also have .LLC . LLC, and that's everything. That's Einstein, that's all the psychic sorority, that's all the events. I've got some live in person events coming up and they're all listed there too, and I'm currently on a world tour. I'm calling for the participation of the willing to take part in a worldwide nonviolent action to end the age of war, and it's basically about us first going inside ourselves and finding where what little wars we have going on that are contributing and taking care of it here right now and contributing to world peace and other ways.

Douglas James Cottrell: 41:19

So well, that's a very noble mission, so can you you want to tell us where you're going to be in the next little while we're in October here, 2023. Any states coming?

Barbara With: 41:34

Yes, I, I'm in November 1. I'm in Minneapolis and November 26. I'm also in Minneapolis, at Lake Superior spiritual community in South Minneapolis, on the first time having a night of the day of the dead channel at my friends art bar. And then I am going to be down in Austin, texas, on November 10th and 11th doing Einstein channel and then presenting all the unified fields and the maps of tuning consciousness and walking us all through a conflict revolution, which is really a miraculous process I wish everyone would do. But then I'm off to Georgia and then in December I leave for Oslo, norway, for two months where I'm going to be base camping, I guess. So I've got some UK stuff going on. I've been invited to Romania and Denmark and I was invited to Tel Aviv, but we'll see. We'll see how that goes.

Douglas James Cottrell: 42:37

Don't go there.

Barbara With: 42:38

No, I don't think that anybody's going.

Douglas James Cottrell: 42:39

there, you can have all the protection you like of all the angels. We don't go there for time.

Barbara With: 42:46

That's my protection is no, not going there.

Douglas James Cottrell: 42:49

So, as we get near the end of this wonderful interview, you know people are sitting here listening to you, they're thinking in their own mind. They're, you know, going back and forth about life after death and some people might want to do what you do. So any advice or direction about people who may want to become a medium or get in touch with their relatives? You know, as you have said, and I believe as well, that we just change. It was like a wearing out a pair of shoes. We discard them and we go back to the, the post existence, which is where we came from in the first place, and then we get to do parachutes and get to come over and do it all over again.

Douglas James Cottrell: 43:35

But any advice or direction about. People are sitting here now wondering, either for the first time, that maybe there is life after death or, more exactly, I want to know how, if Barbara can do this, I can do this. Do I have to do automatic writing first? What? What direction advice would you have for people who are seriously interested in doing this, and are there any things to watch out for?

Barbara With: 44:02

Well, I would say that, first of all, know that this is innate in all of us, that we all have the capacity to be in touch with a far more intuitive, non physical side of us. So it's not unique to me and that, at the root of everything, this is my advice. After all these years and now I started in 1987 and I'm old now so is that if you're really serious about it, then you need to go and test yourself. What I used to do was I would take Eunice's readings and I would write down what I thought was going to happen, what I anticipated it meant that was going to happen, and then I would watch and see what really happened. And then I would see. You know, I would learn that way, very, very.

Barbara With: 44:54

And now it's not about predicting the future. It's about being in touch with your own intuitive self, say a prayer of protection and know that there's it's afterlife, and spiritual life is not a lot different than physical life in terms of there's people on the streets. There's people on the streets who can hurt you. There's probably demons that can hurt. I've never had them when I have people who are being plagued by them, we work conflict, revolution, back down into the self, to find out what's conflicted in the self that's attracting those things. So those are. Those will be your tests, though you have to be willing to be tested and to admit, at the end of the day, it's all a mystery.

Barbara With: 45:44

It took me this long, douglas. I mean I'm talking about sound to antenna, to angels, to famous dead people, to Albert Einstein. This is it's maddening. It can be maddening, and so you have to really take time, be skeptical but open and use your imagination and then ask to be guided and get out of your head and listen for what your intuition is going to say. Your intuition is going to impel you to do and take those steps and figure out what all that means. There's certainly a plethora of information and guidance, and everywhere there's spiritual awakening, information and help, and I can help to. We do a free online conflict revolution classes on zoom on a regular basis and offering to the world what I think we need to do to help us get through this.

Douglas James Cottrell: 46:42

Okay, let's take another quick short break. We'll be right back with more.

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Douglas James Cottrell: 48:01

Well, here we are at the end of this amazing interview. We've got a few minutes left in the show. Barbara, as we said before, people might want to go down the same path that you're on. I'm sure that there are people. This is not what they should do, and I am sure just as well that there are people that could have some synergy with this and they could do it. They need a mentor, I believe, and they could contact you for mentoring or to find out what you do or to have a reading, and I think that's a good place to start as people go through this process.

Douglas James Cottrell: 48:38

It's summary of what you've been through and, as you, just before the break, had said, you started off with something, went to something else, something bigger, something bigger and something bigger. So it developed and, as you said earlier, you didn't think of Albert and the other famous people when you started out. You were doing earnest research and attempting to find out if this mediumship really was what it was, and it is, of course. So I'm saying now, as a costiary note to people go slow. My mentor, reverend Alex Holm, told me the same thing a long time ago Go slow and I was delighted to hear you saying the same thing. So, as we conclude the interview, how can people get a hold of you again and where are your books available? And tell us all about that as we go to the end.

Barbara With: 49:32

Yes, barbara with. com is where you can go to book a reading with me, and synergy alliancellc will take you to everything else all my events, my online classes, all of our books. Our books are also on Amazoncom, and you can find events on synergy alliance. And if you're just interested at all in my music, I have a whole music website at Barb with B A R B W I T H, and so there's some videos, music videos and music over there too. So that's where I am.

Douglas James Cottrell: 50:10

A smorgasbord of things to examine, learn, see. Thank you for mentioning about your music website. That's amazing. You're a busy lady, obviously.

Barbara With: 50:22

Oh, and also YouTube Barb with. I have a lot of. I bought about 200 videos up there of everything different channeling sessions and the psychic sorority videos and

Douglas James Cottrell: 50:43

hmm, All that right Okay

Barbara With: 50:45

Yes

Douglas James Cottrell: 50:46

Okay, well, listen, it's been delightful having this opportunity. I'm your host, douglas James Cottrell. It's been a wonderful interview listening to Barbara with today. Remember the journey doesn't stop here, it continues on, so we encourage you to continue taking your steps. We're all in the same path individually together. Until next time, I wish you peace, of prosperity. God bless.

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