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Karma vs. Sin: Understanding Spiritual Accountability

• Douglas James Cottrell PhD • Season 2 • Episode 17

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Dr. Douglas James Cottrell delivers profound insights into the metaphysical mechanics of karma and sin, revealing how these spiritual processes shape our growth and development. While many misunderstand karma as simply "good" or "bad," Douglas explains it's actually a neutral process—similar to baking a cake—where our actions return to us with mathematical precision, teaching us through direct experience.

The origins of sin, from ancient archery meaning "to miss the mark," highlights its true purpose as a corrective mechanism rather than eternal punishment. When we veer off our spiritual path, consequences arise not to condemn us but to guide us back toward alignment with our higher purpose. Both karma and sin serve as sophisticated teaching tools designed to increase our awareness, compassion, and spiritual development.

Perhaps most practical is Douglas's revelation about breaking free from repetitive negative experiences. "The last thing you want to do is usually the thing you have to do," he advises. When we find ourselves trapped in cycles—whether with people who take advantage of us or situations that leave us feeling victimized—the solution often lies in what we're avoiding. By facing difficult truths, establishing boundaries, or confronting those who harm us, we can break karmic cycles completely.

Douglas also illuminates the crucial difference between intervening and interfering in others' spiritual journeys. True compassion means helping people move forward without removing their essential learning opportunities. When we interfere by shielding others from consequences, we actually delay their growth and may inadvertently take on their karmic burden—echoing the biblical warning against judgment.

Ready to transform your understanding of spiritual accountability and break free from repetitive patterns? Subscribe to Wake Up with Dr. Douglas James Cottrell and join us on this journey of deeper awareness, where ancient wisdom meets practical application for modern life.

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Announcer:

Welcome to Wake Up with Dr Douglas James Cottrell, your source for helpful information, advice and tips to live your life in a mindful way in this increasingly chaotic world. For over four decades, Dr Douglas has been teaching people how to develop their intuition and live their lives in a conscious way. His news and views of the world tomorrow, today, are always informative and revealing. And now here's your host, Dr Douglas James Cottrell.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Welcome to the Wake Up, a broadcast where curiosity leads to deeper understanding. I'm your host, Douglas James Cottrell, and my good friend and co-host Les Hubert is here with me, along with editor Jack Bialik, as we delve into the fascinating realms of life, metaphysics, spirituality and the pressing questions that shape our world. Good morning, Les.

Les Hubert:

Now we got another interesting question for you, Doug. This one concerns karma versus sin. With reincarnation and past lives, we hear of karma, both good and bad. How does karma differ from sin?

Douglas James Cottrell:

Well, karma isn't a thing, it's a process. The first thing to understand. Sin tends to be associated with actions, activity and basically the both of them have consequences to behavior, and all the great religions of the world talk about having consequences to your misbehaving. And to understand misbehaving is, to some degree, not desirable, right? We don't want to go to hell. So as we go through this understanding of this consciousness that we're talking about under this awareness, this spiritual awareness, then these two items become a process, a mechanism to correct you.

Douglas James Cottrell:

I like to look at sin in a way that I've described in my lectures around the world, that the word sin comes from an ancient archery term. And that is, when an archer stands at the line, draws the bow back with an arrow in it and lets it fly, it goes in the direction of the target. When it doesn't hit the center of the target and it goes off the mark, that's called sinning. The arrow has sinned, so it's off the mark.

Douglas James Cottrell:

When somebody in life does something that is constructive or destructive, let's say they give the term, which is not accurate, that karma is good or bad. Karma doesn't have a value, it's a process. It's like baking a cake. The baking of the cake is a process. So if we look at it that way, then karma is the balancing between your actions and the consequences of your actions. Therefore, the better your actions, the more you are helping and being of service, the greater the consciousness is, or the rewards or the benefit of that. They come back to you. So karma has the concept of, like a boomerang what you throw out, all your actions, activities come back to you. That's the consequences. And the reason those consequences come back to you is to teach you what it's like to be on the other side of the coin or the other side of the experience.

Announcer:

Oh, okay.

Douglas James Cottrell:

In basic understanding, the idea of sinning doesn't mean that you go to hell, that you can't repent and you can't regret, you just suffer. It's got nothing to do with it. The idea of making a mistake and then going through the shame and the apologies and all that, it's a lesson, so that you become a better person. And that's important. So when you sin, it's kind of like teaching you if you will, that's not what to do, it's not the right thing, it has a consequence. You feel bad and you correct. You are back on target, you're back on the path. And again, to repeat, with the karmic experiences, it's like, exactly not one iota, more or less, what you give out always comes back to you. So if you don't give anything out, you're pretty much safe, you're okay. Maybe that's why all these holy people live up in caves and mountains just vegetating, you know. They don't want to get any more karma.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Taking that a step farther. First of all, to sin, which is a corrective mechanism. When you're off the mark, you learn to be on the mark, you learn to correct your behavior. And as you do so, you become a better soul, a more aware soul, a more loving soul, and you reap the rewards of coming closer to God and being in your environment, which is, of course, favorable. On the karmic side, you learn the steps through the consequences on what is preferred and what is not preferred. So you learn how to find the stepping stones across the creek to get to where you want to go, and that invokes wisdom. And so we have good karma. It's kind of like both of them in the concept of spiritual development is, the more good you give out, the more service you are. These are the rewards you're giving to yourself and, as Muhammad Ali once said, that to be of service in the world is the currency you have when you die to pay the rent on your spiritual house. A very, very profound way of thinking from his religious perspective.

Douglas James Cottrell:

So, in answering the two, you're not going to go to hell, in either case. You're going to experience in a spiritual world, which is the same. Doesn't matter what you believe or don't believe. It's the spiritual development you are going to receive, exactly what you give forth. So it's better to be of service and to apply the golden rule. You know, don't do anything that you wouldn't want to have happen to yourself. In all the world's great religions--t here's a poster, I think, in the Vatican that has all these sayings from the world's great religions-- that all can be interpreted down to the golden rule, no matter what language it's in or what religion it is, it all comes down to the golden rule.

Les Hubert:

Wow, that's interesting.

Douglas James Cottrell:

It's there and it makes sense. I mean, on the other side of life, what's the religion over there? Well, there is none, because religion is in the world. But the heavens and the dimensions are there and learning how to become aware and progress through them on your spiritual journey, that is the same over there, no matter what your spiritual beliefs are here. And, of course, all spiritual beliefs are incomplete because we're not divine beings like an avatar or a messiah or a saint or a prophet. We are always learning. Two

Douglas James Cottrell:

aspects of sinning, meaning off the mark, attempting to get better, aim aim, to be on the path. The Bible's full of being on the path. It refers to the path., The the correct path that, I can say, is when you're shooting the arrow down to the target, you're on the mark. And the other is again the same process of learning, sort of an in an experiential way, hands-on if you will will, what to do and what not to do. But the concepts they blend together when you get to that point of correctness, awareness, these mechanisms on how to teach you what's the right way.

Les Hubert:

I remember years ago I used to study Transcendental Meditation and the Maharishi Maharishi Yogi, he said meditation is a way of overcoming much karma. How is that even possible?

Douglas James Cottrell:

Well, if you're full of anger, hate, frustration and difficulty and you learn how to be loving and kind and peaceful, what have you learned? What have you overcome? All the things that separate you from the path, which are the hate, the anger, the frustration, the brutality, all the animalistic sides of us. After all, we are animals. We were cavemen once and so we have the tendency, all of us are able and capable of doing bad things to each other. But the spiritually enlightened one chooses not to do that. They resist doing those animalistic activities so that they become more spiritual, and that's spiritual--l ike the Messiah, the Christ, the Muhammad, the Prophet, the Moses, etc.--t They never retaliated. They had great power, spiritual power. They could make duplications of water into wine and fishes and loaves to feed a multitude. Think what they could do if they could think of somebody who is their enemy. They could reach in their heart and squeeze their heart to a pulp. They don't show the violence. Instead, they put forward this nonviolent-- like Mahatma Gandhi. For a handful of salt he brought down the British Empire and he freed the millions of people in India with a handful of salt and his non-violent philosophy, teaching them not to be violent. And that is the greatest example of understanding the spiritual technique, awareness, ability, that these two aspects of being off the mark with sin and suffering consequences to your actions take hold. Think about it. A man picked up a handful of salt and he changed the whole country. The empire, the British empire, fell after that separation of control in India. Think about that. So that's the power of one man, one person and nonviolence.

Les Hubert:

hey heard of storing up good karma. Can you also store up bad karma?

Douglas James Cottrell:

It's the same. See, you've got to think it's not a bank, it's a process. And when somebody says, oh, you've got a lot of good karma, I used to say, you've got a lot of brownie points, okay. Spiritual brownie points. What does that mean? Let's go back to Muhammad Ali. You have a lot of service, and so that's the currency you have for your residence in heaven. But what about here?

Douglas James Cottrell:

You know, if you keep doing good things and being of service, that when you get in difficulty here in the world, somebody shows up to help you. Right. Out of the blue. Somebody will, if you're out of gas, pick you up and take you to the gas station and bring you back. Somebody will knock on your door and say, hey, your house is on fire. Or some other not so grandiose situation. When you're feeling really bad, somebody will come by, you haven't seen for a while, and give you a big hug. Or somebody will come and say to you, I know exactly what you need to do. That happened to me when I was younger. And so this good karma, this beneficial aspects to your life, is not really karma, it's the service you've given. Now I'm going to maybe sound a little contradictory to that, because when you have a dream and in the dream you're going out and you're mowing the lawn, in your dream. I've learned that that's the symbol for collecting the brownie points that you've saved up and earned from previous lifetimes or this one. It's a bank of good things. So when you're mowing the lawn, you're cutting the grass, you're collecting your benefits of service that you've given before. So you can call it good karma, but to the purist, karma is not good or bad, it just simply is. It's a mechanism. But yeah, if you start doing bad things to people, bad things are going to happen to you, because all action has a consequence.

Les Hubert:

It sounds like it's kind of a balancing act. I remember reading Edgar Cayce was once asked where he got his ability to do the work, such as yourself and Ross Peterson and Solomon, etc. And he described a past life, where he was I think it was back in the pioneer days and he sacrificed his life. He was a trader or something, I forget exactly, but he sacrificed his life in order for some people to get away from marauding Indians who were basically, you know, violent at the time because their land was being invaded. And because of his sacrifice to balance out, he was given this ability to help people going into a deep trance meditation. I thought that was fascinating. So is it also kind of like balancing the factors of positive and negative energies?

Douglas James Cottrell:

Well, Edgar Cayce gave up his life in a previous lifetime to save other people so they could get away. So what was he doing? Giving up his life for the benefit of others. Edgar Cayce, being a intuitive counselor, gave up his life for the benefit of others. How did he give up his life? One hour at a time, to go into meditation. He wasn't living his life, he was giving his life to people, so they would get the benefit. So he gave up his life. So I think he said something like 40,000 consultations. So 40,000 hours of his life is what he gave up.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Wow. You can see the parallel between giving up your life, holding off the marauders while your family escapes parallels with giving up your life to do consultations for people. I can relate to that because I remember looking out the window and the sun would be out, the person would come for a session. I used to do four of them a day when I was younger. And it was depressing that I could see the light out the window. I'm looking out my window now, so I'm looking to the side, and when I woke up it was dark. S o that had an effect on me, but I still did it because that's what I was required to do. So it wasn't that he did that before and then he was bequeathed his ability. It said he had the ability, but just the parallel was he was giving up his life a different way, one hour at a time, as opposed to canceling his life out. If he was 40 or 50 years old, he was dead and lost 30 or 40 years of his life. So how did he come across this ability? How did he become this great seer, being able to tap into the higher dimensions? Well, because he had done so before. All of us have done, and he could have lived in a temple and he could have spent times in a monastery. I think there were such times as that. He could have been a high priest in Egypt. I think he was the Ra-ta priest at the, back in Egypt. So he wasn't like a neophyte, he was highly trained in previous experiences. And so that is, let's say, the assumption that that high training from another time came forward. Then he became a spiritual master in this life. The same as a child prodigy who was a great pianist in France and comes back and goes into Taiwan and can play, or Vietnam and can play the piano at two or three years of age, with a masterful skill.

Les Hubert:

Oh yeah, you see that a lot.

Douglas James Cottrell:

They've learned the skill in a previous lifetime and they come by and they just remember. They remember all that training they had before and everybody goes, oh my God, gift from God, this is amazing. I said, well, yeah, but they spent a whole lifetime just a few years ago. They're only two or three now and somehow they've been connected, they've remembered or they brought forward that knowledge and they can play a piano or instrument masterfully. The same as other children who are masterful at mathematics and art, etc. It's because they remember their previous teachings, lessons, accomplishments. At least that's my theory. I could be right, could be wrong.

Les Hubert:

When we are on the other side, once we leave this dimension, is there karma in the spirit realms or in the higher realms?

Douglas James Cottrell:

No, because in the higher realms, you are selecting where you want to go next. Okay, speaking of coming back into the world, you have a life plan, you have a map, a book of life. You sit down at a table with a bunch of other souls and you say, okay, let's all go back in the world in 2025. And you live in Ukraine and you live in America, you live in Canada and you live in Panama, and we'll go through this turbulent time and we'll all meet up in Switzerland and we'll be a committee that will help bring peace and order to different parts of the world. I'll be an ambassador, you can be a president, you can be a policeman. And so they select the mission, if you will, the blueprint, and then they come down to the world and act it out, each in its own way, gaining the knowledge and experiences that they do that. But there's no cause and effect in the higher realm. There just is. It's the process of selecting what to do, that the karma, if you will, the consequences for previous activities helps the soul select where it wants to go.

Les Hubert:

So karma in many respects is just cause and effect.

Douglas James Cottrell:

It's a process. The process is cause, effect, consequence and then retribution or re-experiencing to learn.

Les Hubert:

So if we don't get it the first time, it's going to come back and get us and remind us again, so to speak.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Over, and, over, and, over and over, until we get it right. That's exactly right, and that's when our Eastern friends talk about the wheel of karma. The wheel. Because we just keep going around in circles until we get it right. And here's a little tip for people who want to know in their own life when they're having an experience that's happening the same over and over again. Let's say, people are stealing from you or your friends. And it happens as a child, happens as a teenager, happens in your twenties, happens to you a couple of times in your twenties or thirties, and you go, what am I doing wrong?

Les Hubert:

Right, yeah sure.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Okay. Well, when you get to that point, you say, I've been trying to be nice, I've been trying to forgive everybody. You know, I'm getting treated like a doormat. I'm trying to be my brother's keeper. What is going on? Well, the answer to that is: the one thing that you are avoiding doing is the answer, and the solution to how to stop this repetitive circumstance from reoccurring. And let's say, people take advantage you. Your friends, people you know, they steal from you, they embarrass you, they belittle you. Well, what's the thing you have to do? You have to tell them off. And you go and you scream at them with justifiable anger and you tell them how they're hurting you and this is terrible. You thought they were your friend. You do not call them names, you do not belittle them, you do not demean them, but you express yourself fully that you're really angry and you give them the reason why you're angry and you tell them you don't want them to do that to you anymore. So what are you doing is you're sticking up for yourself. You're now rising up. You're not the doormat anymore. Now you're the doorway. And I can guarantee you, if this is the thing you're avoiding to do, when you do it, that experience will go away, never to come back. The reason I can say is, because, hey, I've been there, done that. But the point being is, once you have faced the circumstance, there's no need to go back and relearn it again. You handled it. So it comes down to responsibility and duty. If nobody else can do this but you, then it's your duty. So you have to go and you tell off the person who might be your best friend, who might be a longtime friend, who might just be the neighbor next door, or might be somebody that you really, really like, but they're pretending to be your friend, you see. And you're allowing them to pretend to be your friend and you are being naive at allowing yourself to be emotionally bruised, vandalized, hurt, taken advantage of, and so that's the karma. And so, as soon as you say, oh my God, this is it. Okay, what do I have to do? Well, I don't want to tell them off. I'll write them a letter, I'll send them a text. No, no, no, no. You got to go tell them off. You got to go say, "you are hurting my feelings, I don't want anything to do with you anymore, out of my life." Right, I have to do it. Whatever that thing is, you're avoiding to do. This is the key. The last thing you want to do, the thing you're avoiding doing, that is the answer. That's what you have to do.

Douglas James Cottrell:

So, for people listening to my words and you're thinking, oh yeah, you know my, this, my that. You know somebody keeps borrowing my clothes and they-- you know, my friend, my roommate, they take my clothes, they bring them back wrecked. Or somebody keeps borrowing my car and I just want to go out in my car, and they come and they take it away and you're getting trounced upon. Then you have to change the locks, put your clothes in a locker, don't give them the keys to your car, and you have to rise to the occasion and say N-O, no, put your hand up in their face and say, No, and mean it. Don't say no, well, I didn't sort of mean it, I'm so sorry. Say no, no, no. I've had it with you. And a relief will come over you and a calmness. There won't be any anger, there won't be any regret and there won't be a continuous battle in your mind. It'll be neutral. Then you know the karma has been met for sure or the lesson has been learned for sure. And it doesn't matter if you do it right, one hundred per cent. It doesn't matter if you have a perfect solution. It only matters that you did it. You faced up and did the best you can, and it's over. You'll feel calm. It won't happen again, guarantee it, in your life. Or, if something comes that way, you'll know exactly how to handle it next time and you won't allow yourself to be pushed around.

Les Hubert:

It's interesting you touch upon that, because I just went through a similar situation. Longtime friend I thought was a friend, and I was dreading having to cut her off from my life. I've known her for years. I tried everything and finally one night in meditation, this voice said, "feel free to cut her loose. And I ignored it. I said, I can't do that, I can't. And then the next meditation, feel free to cut her loose. And just as you said, doug, when I did that, it was, a resounding peace came over me. I thought, wow, exactly exactly. So that's very--i t was not easy to get to, but I finally had to do it. And yeah, you're right, that's the solution.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Well, you're very wise for you to do that, Les. I know how hard it would be, because everybody-- remember the lessons that come at you are always hard. They're not really easy to do. But what was the real effort? It was just to say "goodbye, you're out of my life. That's not so hard to say, but to get to that point, okay. But that's why it's hard and difficult, because this is the lesson you're learning.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Our Buddhist friends talk about four types of people that you think are your friends. The friend that always comes along and criticizes you. They're always right, you're always wrong. They're not your friend. The person who always borrows things from you all the time and comes in and eats your food. They're not your friend. And so-- I'm not going to go into the four types, but the idea that people come along, they're not your friends, but you think they are. The person that constantly embarrasses you in front of other people and you're oh, they didn't really mean it. That's the third type. They're not your friends. Who are your friends? Well, your friends are friendly, they don't embarrass you, they don't take advantage of you, they don't belittle you. And the fourth type of friend who's in competition with you all the time? Not your friend. So there's the four types of people. I went ahead and did it anyway. Those are the four types of friends that are not your friends. And so as soon as you learn that "they're not my friends, then what are you doing associating with these people? Rule of thumb is: never go where you're not wanted or welcomed.

Douglas James Cottrell:

You know, we go to a club and everybody's there and you're trying to, you know, join the club, fit in, and nobody's -- they're all giving you the cold shoulder. Well, go down the street to the next club, forget that one. Oh yeah, but it's prestigious and everybody goes there. Well, it's not right for you. Down the street is where you're supposed to go.

Douglas James Cottrell:

So, people with square heads, you know, it takes a little while to figure it out. Like, I'm not really having fun here. What am I doing? I'm buying beer and I'm doing this and, you know, buying sandwiches, and they don't even give me the time of day. Oh, I get it, I'm in the wrong place. And you go down the street and the next club, you going, "Hi, come on in. Where you been? You're just our kind of people." and you're like, wow, night and day. That choice and doing that is what awareness and loving consciousness is all about. You're loving yourself, but it's really hard because humans, as we know humans, "give us something really hard and I just want to dig my feet in and I want to battle, I want to go and do it the hard way." and you go like no. As you get older, you go, like, no, no, I've been here, done that, a thousand times. No, down the street is where I'm going.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Now where I'm coming from, there was a lady I had-- coming with that comment--t There was a lady who had a dream and in the dream she perceived a mountain in front of . her And and on the outside of the mountain was rickety wooden staircases and it was dark out and it was rainy. And she could get to the top by walking up this rickety old walkways up the side of the mountain. And as she was looking at the walkway, she noticed that there was an elevator right at the bottom of these walkways and all she had to do was to go in there and take the elevator to the top. What did she do? She got on the rickety old walkways that go up to the top. So when she came to me and asked me to interpret that dream her, for because I'm very good at interpreting dreams, dreams I just smiled at her and I said, said"well well, there you go. Humans, as you know, humans, we want the hard way. Don't give us the easy way. We want the hard way". And she was so disgusted with that decision she made about taking the hard way I said well, the lesson here in the dream is when you see a choice, take the easy way". You don't need to take the hard way to prove to somebody you can do it. Or because it's a challenge, yeah, it's okay. You get older, you start saying no, no, no. Where's the easy way, where's the elevator? And so that was a revelation of, again, humans as we know humans, humans and how we decide what we're going to do. We always have a choice to make and that decision can be easy or hard.

Douglas James Cottrell:

here, the same as when life, when you rose to the occasion, after time after time after time, of dealing with somebody that was hurting your feelings and giving you problems and causing you difficulties, they might have been the most beautiful looking person in the world. They might have had a charming personality, but they were causing you heartache or pain. So I'm sorry, this isn't working out. You got your way, I don't fit into your life. So we'll just say adios. "you can't do this to me, you can't do that. Well, I did it, you're not my friend. So they might try to-- what I'm saying is retaliate with calling you names or whatever. And so that's the risk people have to take, that when they stand up for themselves, more than likely, the other person won't do a thing. They'll just say, well, that's the way you feel. And they leave. And you go like, wow, that was easy. And then you're looking at yourself like, why didn't I do that last year? What's the matter with me? You have to stop beating yourself up. But that is a prime example of how people can enter into this situation, of being able to stick up for themselves and say "humans, as we know, humans like to do the hard way. I'm going to be smart and I'm going to do it the easy way." Yeah, the lesson here is the last thing you want to do is usually the thing that you have to do, because it's your duty.

Les Hubert:

In wrapping this up, it's an interesting perception that people have been telling me that they have, that over the years, it seems to be that time is speeding up, also, karma, the relationship between cause and effect, or the deed, whether it was good or bad, is being done and then the resulting karma of that, there seems to be a lot of instant karma going on. Is there a reason for that?

Douglas James Cottrell:

There's instant karma is, when you know better, and you do something anyway-- wham bam, thank you, ma'am-- that is going to come right back in your face. Absolutely. And if you're aware, you can see it. When you do something, you know you shouldn't do something. You know you're like a little annoyed at somebody you're playing pool with, and so you throw the ball down the table, and it hits their finger, and secretly inside you're going like, yeah, you know. You're angry with that person. Maybe they're winning, maybe you're jealous, who knows what. Well, you'll have your hand on the cushion, they'll hit the ball and the ball will come back and hits you on the finger, instantly, like within a few minutes. And you go, "Ok, thank you, I got the message Calm right, ok? So the more aware you become of this cause and effect process, the more you can see it interacting with people, and the more you can stand back and let other people engage in this process. Because if you step in and you prevent them from going through the experience, what are you doing? A disservice to them, because now they have to set up another situation where the same circumstances will come back and they'll have to go through it. So if you can be wise, like Buddha, and stand back and let the process work out, then, when they fall down, you can be there to pick them up or to put the bandaid on their knee or whatever. But as you come to that point, you will come up to this process and the words are here: it's okay to intervene, but you can't interfere. And so if you're intervening in somebody's life, you're just helping them to get from where they are to where they need to go. But if you're interfering in their life, you're preventing them, you're taking on their karma, their responsibility, and they're getting away with it, only to face it another time.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Now, in In the Good good Book book, the disciples were sitting around talking to the Messiah and he warned them about this. He said, said"don't don't judge other people, because if you do, their problem is going to become your problem". And so that's why, when we judge people or we say how could they do that? Okay, well, you're about to find out how they could do that, because that circumstance is lining up right in of you, It's the sooner rather than later time.

Douglas James Cottrell:

n awareness, wisdom, practical thinking, application of the laws of nature, you observe these things, and so you don't say, how could they do that? You go like, well, okay, let them figure it out, the sooner the better. Or you say, when they're doing something really silly, you say, "od Almighty, please let them find out, the sooner the better, the lesson that they're experiencing. That's the best thing you can do, when you see people banging their head on the wall, and doing silly things, you don't do it for them, you don't jump in there, otherwise they're going to beat you up, they're going to throw you against the wall, they're going to yell and scream at you. You just stand back and say, okay, whatever they're teaching themselves, may they find out the sooner the better, on how to handle a situation or to be blessed, or whatever comes to mind.

Douglas James Cottrell:

So, in essence, don't judge people, don't wonder, "wonder what goes on in the court. If you're thinking, "I wonder what's going on in the courthouse, you know where you're going to be in the courthouse. You'll go there to sign papers. You'll be send a notice that you have to come in for jury duty. Somebody will sue you, or you'll be suing somebody else, or you'll complain to the police. And you'll find out, "Gee whiz, I know everything that goes on in the courthouse. That's enough, thank you. I don't need to know anymore. That's a fact. If you wonder about something, your subconscious says oh, we want to know about milkweed. Okay. And next next thing, for the next few days or weeks, you find out milkweed's made of rubber, farmers are growing plantations of milkweed, it's a big business in some far away place. And you go, "That's enough. I don't need to know about milkweed anymore. Thank you, k indly. I understand."

Douglas James Cottrell:

So the essence there is, what we wonder about, what we complain about, what we're curious about, that mechanism inside of us leads us to find out. So, I wonder what it's like to own a yacht. I wonder what it's like to go to parties every night. No, I don't really do that, but you could wonder about, "I wonder what it's like to stay in a hotel in Niagara Falls and see the water down below." You'll end up there. I wonder what it's like to go to Disneyland with the family. You'll end up there.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Now, the wondering has to be sincere, not like oh, I wonder what it's like to work in the White House. Well, you could end up there going and helping clean up the floor as a cleaner or a volunteer or something. I mean that's a possibility. But if it's frivolous, it's just in one ear and not the other. There's no energy behind it. So, not to steer people wrong. To our listeners, who we are greatly appreciative of and hope they support the show by signing up and supporting the show for a few dollars every month, we would love to tell them more of the secrets of life, as we're doing here, Les.

Douglas James Cottrell:

So the situation comes down to we're going to provide this information, okay. We can show them the information, but we can't understand it for them. They have to understand. And the same in life, the same with the concept of cause and effect.

Douglas James Cottrell:

As soon as you become aware of this, as we are telling people right now, guess what? We've condemned them in a way, because now there's no excuse. They've heard it. They might not believe it right away. They might say, wow, that's amazing. You said it so concisely and now I understand. You've filled in the blanks, which is what we hope to do. But whoever's listening to this, it's now on their mind and they've got to say okay, how does this work? Well, you wonder about it. You're going to find out about it. So it's been our pleasure to teach people because we're helping to do what? We're intervening in their lifetime so they can get from here to there more quickly. We're not interfering because we know better. And, as people listen to your words, your questions and my answers, we're doing a great service, and so we'd like a little reward for them to support us, for a few dollars a month. We're giving them gold here for pennies and I'm making fun of it, but it's really a serious thing to help us continue on the way we do. So we're spending a lot of time being of service, so we must be building up some good karma. So where are you going on vacation this year?

Les Hubert:

I hope to go to Paris pretty soon and I'm going to get there.

Douglas James Cottrell:

I hear Italy's good this time of year but anyway.

Les Hubert:

Well, thanks, Doug, for a great podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, if you like what you hear, please consider subscribing to the show. By going to douglasjamescottrell. com, you can click on that big blue banner and we'll be talking about some interesting things in the future. Coming up, we'll be talking about the Great Pyramid, what's going on underneath it, possible communications with higher beings, and also, will we be visited shortly by extraterrestrials? We will see in the near future. Thank you.

Douglas James Cottrell:

Until next time. God bless you, my friend.

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