Boosting Confidence and Living Your Best Life With Lisa Phillips | Episode 17

In this episode Joanne chats to multi award winning life coach Lisa Phillips. With over 22 years’ experience, Lisa is an international leading Life Coach and Confidence expert. She is also a fully qualified Career, Interview, Law of Attraction and Inner Child expert. Lisa is also a Master NLP Practitioner and a qualified Counsellor. ( Australia).

Lisa founded ‘Amazing Coaching’ in 2000 while living in Sydney, Australia. Now residing in the UK, Lisa is the author of ‘The Confidence Coach' book and her work is regularly featured on TV, Radio and a wide range of business and lifestyle magazines.

Lisa shares her own wellness and self-care journey, career, working with the Universe and the lessons she has learned to inspire you to live a healthier, happier and more balanced lifestyle.

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Transcript

Welcome to Episode Seventeen of our Full Spectrum Wellness Podcast. I'm so excited to be back here with you for our seventeenth episode.


Joanne: Welcome, Lisa, to our Full Spectrum Wellness podcast.

Lisa: I am so excited to be here, Jo, so thank you for inviting me along.

Joanne: I'm so excited too.  

Lisa: It's always nice to have a chat with you actually. So I'm looking forward to the experience.

Joanne: Me too. So I'm really interested to know about your journey, your journey to becoming a confidence coach and your journey with the law of attraction and also your wellness journey.

But I wanted to start by asking you what the word wellness means to you. 

Lisa: Oh, good question. I like that. It's interesting, isn't it? For me, I would say wellness is how I feel, as a whole. It's not just physical wellness, it's not just emotional wellness. It's that risky feeling of getting up in the morning and excited about the day.

It's almost like cellular wellness, if that makes sense. Positive emotion. That's what it means to me. 

Joanne: I like that. 

Lisa: That's a great question.

Joanne: I like that answer. 

Lisa: It's that feeling in the morning, isn't it? You know, that you're looking forward to the day and those, sort of positive emotions, feeling good.

Joanne: Yeah, I wanted to ask you, what are your passions in life? 

Lisa:  Well, that's a good question. Probably to be honest, Jo, it probably links in to the wellness because I'm a huge believer in doing things that make me feel good. Yeah, so I think you know, if you'd asked me that question 10 years ago, I'd probably give you a very different answer.

But now I can find passion in the most simple things, like a really good cup of coffee in the morning because, it brings me that positive emotion. It brings me those feelings of wellness, to be quite honest. Um, so yeah, good coffee, lovely walk in the country, which I've been able to do. I've got this thing about, I've got a fetish I think for Wellies.

Because I've got about four pairs and, and I just love them, a couple days ago I went out and they were covered in mud and I was just so excited, and trying to find a puddle to sort of, to jump in. But then there's, I guess my career and what I do, which is about helping people feel good, you know, helping people.

Feel good about themselves and also not beat themselves up. So yeah, good question. Again, making me think this afternoon,  and travel always, I'm a bit adventurous and that's really important to me. And you know, the emotion of adventure is really important to me and I know if I don't feel it, I don't feel passionate.

Yeah. So that that's something, you know, I try to do. That helps me with my wellness as well. 

Joanne: I love the fact that you love wellies. I love that, jumping in puddles because that links very much to your inner inner child work that you do with your clients as well. 

Lisa: Absolutely big fan of inner child work, really enjoy it. And you know what I've found, I've been working, in this industry now for 23 years and what I've found is, you know, inner child work is so transformational and the universe will always bring the right clients to me that need that in a child work. And it's so important to let our inner inner child play, whether it's jumping in the puddle, eating ice cream.

That's always my excuse, you know, if. Buffed out for the day,  because, you know, in a child, in my, um, the way I look at things in, in my coaching is, you know, our inner child has a lot to do with when we don't feel very good. Yeah. You know, a lot of that programming we've had when we're, we are younger and, you know, we might try very hard rationally in our brains to try and overcome a feeling or an emotion.

Um, but a lot of that it's held in our. And you'll know this from, from the work that you do. So, you know, I always say to, to clients, you can't put ice cream on top of poop. So, you know, we gotta sort out the inner child, first of all, and then it's gonna be so much easier to let the inner child have fun and to play.

Yeah. So, oh, we don't play enough, do we? What do you do, Joe? To play What makes you smile? No. So it's funny that you talk about wellies because. I think even so I, I mentioned this in, in our previous podcast when I was talking to, um, fellow therapist Melanie, we were talking about, um, how we are programmed and, and, and a lot of things that happen to us in childhood we carry through as an adult.

Absolutely.  and because I didn't have a very fun childhood. Mm. I don't really know how to have fun as an adult and I'm kinda still learning that. And I'm 52 in February and I'm still learning. Yeah. But the Wellies thing, it reminded me that I've learned how to play from my dog, especially Rosie. Rosie's very similar to me.

She's had a lot of trauma as a young pop, same as I had a lot of trauma as a child and she, she's learning just now at 15 years old how to play from our younger. Daisy, it was only five. And they love nothing more than when we're out on a walk. If they see a pile of leaves, they just spend ages. I think it's the noise it makes and they're crackling under the floor.

I love that. And they love it. So I love putting my wellies on. I'm finding the biggest pile of leaves and we just, like, I crunch the leaves under my, and they just, the look on their faces. Brilliant. That's, that's my favorite thing to do. I love that. And isn't that interesting as well? Dogs know how to.

Dogs are high vibrational. They'll just play and mean and seeing a dog play you play. Absolutely. Absolutely ab. That's really nice. We just need to be more dog . Absolutely. Well, I'm a bit of a cat, cat lover, so maybe I need to be more cat as well, but just playing is so important. You know, I was lucky. I've got twin nephews and I was lucky obviously being Christmas time recently.

I spent some time with them and they just make you laugh as well, don't they? Kids, animals. Because like, we do take life a bit too seriously, and I'm, I'm very guilty of, of, of doing that. But sometimes it's just jumping in that puddle, putting on my wellies, even wearing a, a silly hat or you know, something like that plays, it's su it's so good for us at the end of the day, isn't it?

It really is. Absolutely. Yeah. . When did you become interested in all this personal development? And I know you're big into the law of attraction, so when, when did that interest peak? You know, it's really interesting. Actually, it was about 25 years ago and at the time I was living in Australia and a friend had come to visit me from the UK and it was my birthday and she bought me the Angel Numbers book.

I dunno who the Do yeah, do book is, and I was like, This is interesting with a, you know, a bit of intrigue and I remember reading it and said, oh, I really like this. And then the next thing I look at, Dover was doing one of her three day workshops in Sydney, in Australia? In Australia. Wow. In Sydney, where I was.

So it was, uh, a sort of natural leap too. , I think I'm gonna go to this. And what was so funny was, you know, at the time I've just moved to Sydney, it was an expensive time. And I remember saying to the angels, alright, bring me some money to do this, um, to do this, uh, workshop. And I always remember because I found $300 on the floor I was getting You didn't.

I did. And I was like, oh my God. I found the amount of money to do this and I didn't know at the, at the time, I was like, well, what do we do with it? Because it was literally, I got out my car and there it was. It was just there on the pavement. It was there on the pavement. And I remember thinking, well, there's no banks or cash points or anything near me, you know, and what do I do?

And I was funny enough where I got out the car was a really, really, sort of quite a wealthy area. And, um, I, I just, I, I remember that day just saying to myself, I'm just, I'm, I'm receiving this. Wow. And I went on the course. So, you know, I always laugh at that cuz I think that was just divine timing of um Absolutely.

And that's when I started to, to really get interested. In, um, in the law of attraction, it wasn't always angels. I think that sort of just moved me into mm-hmm. , um, my work and, um, I was lucky enough at the time when you're in Sydney, you get a lot of the big hay house. Events going on. So, you know, lots of Louise El Hay, a lot of, um, even, you know, Deepak Chopra, I was able to sort of keep the momentum going by going to see all of these experts.

Um, and it was just, I just soaked in every minute of it, to be quite honest. I absolutely, you know, the wisdom, it would just happened to be a really transformational sort of six. Um, moved cuz I was an accountant at the time, which is really scary. And, um, just almost like I was pushed into this completely different, um, thought patterns and that that was the start of everything for me to be honest.

Wow. And how did you transition from that into your journey into a confidence coach? Well, again, again, that's quite an interesting story. I moved to Australia to do a new role with the company that I was working for at the time, and I, like I said, I was working as an accountant and the boss that I was working for was toxic.

And I was only there, I was in Sydney six months in this organization. And because this boss was extremely toxic, great company by the way, they gave me a company credit card and said, um, literally stay at home and do any sort of wellness activity that you feel will help you. Wow. Because I've been quite bullied by this manager.

And I went to see a life coach , and, and they paid for it, obviously. And then I decided to do n l. So I did a week's long intensive NLP with a fabulous trainer. I was having coaching sessions every week. Um, and then I decided to, um, book myself on, it was a year long coaching, um, course, which was every second weekend, full days.

Wow. Um, doing that. And that was then, and then the, the funny thing is, is I decided then not to go back to. Where I was before and take their lovely um, payout literally that they gave me, um, was still in Australia and then decided to start my own business. I did half and half at the time. You know, I did half working for large corporate organizations and half on my own business and that's how everything sort of fell into place to be quite honest.

So, although I look back, it was really scary at the time cuz I'd only been in Sydney for six months and it looked like I could lose my job and my visa. Yeah. Um, I know now that it was the universe leading me down, um, a different path. And then from there, you know, um, people like Esic, um, Abraham Hs. I'm big into their work and I just use the law of attraction in, in everything I do, whether it's personally or with my clients as well.

Yeah, I know you're really passionate about that, aren't you? I, I do, I I've been on quite a lot of, um, the cruises with, um, Esther and Hicks and Abraham, and for me it's something I find really resonates and I think, I dunno, I'm sure you'll agree, Joe, when we've, when we're all on our journey, We all find different experts that resonate with us.

Yeah. I know you like Bob Proctor. You're a big fan of his, and I think it's really, really important on our own journey to find those people that resonate with us. Because you know, I remember when I started my own coaching business, I'd see all this stuff coming through. I'd subscribe to all of these emails and I'd see all this information and it, and it, I really had to stop and say, hold on, this is, this is my.

Yeah, who works for me? Where can I get my support? And then I think, um, you know, as time went on, learning, learning to sort of think of myself as a toaster. And I know that's random , but I like to think of myself as a toaster in that I need to plug into the universe in the law of attraction as, as opposed to plugging into what everybody else is doing sort of thing.

I love that, that, yeah, I, I always just, I'll say to myself during the date, where's your. Who you plugged into and you know, nine times outta 10 isn't the universe I'm plugged into something else that's maybe, yeah. Triggering me or something like that. But I think it can really bring me back, um, if I can just remind myself, hold on, where am I plugged in?

So yeah, it's been an interesting old journey to be quite honest. It has, and, um, I can't say I've enjoyed every minute of it because I think sometimes when you start on the old self-development and, and um, you know, your stuff does come up. But I love working with, with my clients. That's something that really brings me joy.

And of course your coaching has took you all over the world cuz you do the cruise ships and you do your coaching on the ships. Absolutely. I'm very lucky I manifested that as well. Actually, I'd been on a cruise and saw Abraham Hicks, Esther Hicks, and I thought, I want to do that. Public speaking. I'm one of those weird people that love it,

So it was, it was like, I wanna bring my coaching on board and speak on cruise ships. And I, I use thought of, Actually and the ships offered before you did it or was, were you like a pioneer in because we, we know that I've never been on a cruise, but I know that they do, like after dinner shows and cabaret, I, I would never have thought they would have a live coach on a on.

They do. Well I think at the time. Some coming out of the states were people like, um, Esther Hicks, and she decided to run workshops on a cruise ship. So you would literally book to pay and see her on board for like 10 hours. Yeah. So, I knew it was possible, to be honest. I, I didn't even think it wasn't, and, and I just decided that I wanted to do that and I imagined myself doing it.

And I love cruising. I love travel. And then I received a phone call one day to say, Hey, are you interested in, in doing this? And that was obviously, I was still in Australia at this time, so I was lucky enough to, to do. So many cruises around like, um, all the little Pacific Isles, Fiji, um, New Zealand, Sydney, and obviously now I'm back in the uk I'm still doing it.

And it's something I love, to be quite honest, to be able to stand up on stage. And I talk about lots of general stuff. I talk about confidence and stress and people pleasing. Um, but um, yeah, I don't know if anybody else does it like me, but I I love it. It, it's great. I send the photograph, can't cook. It's really.

I'd love to come on a cruise and come to one of your events. It looks fabulous in the photographs. You could do them yourself. Young lady . Absolutely. To me, it's like a little holiday, you know, getting fed and looked after and I just have to pop onto stage for maybe sort of 35 minutes every few days, so, wow.

Yeah. What a way to travel. Absolutely. It is. It is. It's fun. And of course you've were on the TV in Australia doing your coaching as well. Yeah, I did a lot in Australia actually. I mean, I wrote the book, the Confidence Coach. That was always a passion of mine. I loved to write and I always wanted a book in a bookshop that was, that was big to me.

And I did a lot of morning tv. I, I do think probably Australia are a little bit more used to using. Um, much more alternative therapies, much more, um, open. To, um, alternate therapies and, and coaching. Yes. And that was fun. You know, I really enjoyed that and what's been quite interesting is trying to do it back in the UK and, and I need to plug my toaster in a little bit better.

There is, it tends to be the UK could be a little bit, they're always looking more for psychiatrists or psychologists. Yeah. The scientific way. Whereas Australia, I mean, I, I did sort of 10 to 12 shows, um, all about coaching. Um, which was fantastic. Again, you know, something that, and again, I manifested that to be quite honest as well.

So, so you're manifestation ? Yes and no. You know, I think it's, for me, manifesting so much easier when you haven't got your. Your clo, your pipes clogged with, you can't do it. Yes. I've never spoken on a cruise before, so it was almost easier because I, I didn't have people say, no, you can't do that. Same with the tv.

I never had people I did, had no idea, so I'd almost like was able to manifest it quite quickly because, I had nobody saying, you can't do that or stuff. I think the issue comes when I've already convinced myself I can't do it. Then I've gotta guess unplug my pipes before there's a, a clear channel to the manifestation.

Yeah. Yeah. So that reminds me of one of Bob's teachings is, is when we're setting our goals, um, he always says, don't share that with anybody else. It's so important because most of the time, friends and family are. What do you wanna do that for? That's gonna work, work four or, that'll be hard. Or you can can't do that.

Don't you need a degree to do that? And you know, it clogs up the vibration, doesn't it? Yeah. You're absolutely right. And you know, I'll often say that to my clients when I've spoke with them. When we've sort, we don't wish direction and wanna go, I'll go. Well, don't tell anyone. Don't tell anyone. That's the worst thing you can ever do because people will clog your, your thoughts.

But if, if you don't share.  and you haven't got any, I guess, preconceived ideas so that it won't work. It's much easier to manifest. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. , those big things you'd think like cruise ships and and being on TV were really simple. Yeah. To manifest. Whereas if I was trying to, I don't know, if I was trying to manifest a new relationship right now because I'm single, I'd have much more clogged pipes, and you might think that might be.

But for me it, it's not because of maybe some clogged pipes in that area. Yeah. So past experiences, whereas, like you say, you'd never done the cruise ships or the TV before, so you hadn't got, had any bad experiences to kind of put, plug it up those seeds A doubt in Yep, absolutely. Infect it in some way.

Yeah. . Um, I'd like to ask you to share some of your personal wellness journeys and, and what are some of the biggest challenges you faced with your own wellness? Ooh, good questions. Again, I think one of my biggest, um, journey has been. All around, funny enough, self-esteem, confidence, and boundaries. That's, you know, from a very sort of, uh, I was always, I guess I didn't really know what boundaries were and very much I was about keeping other people happy all the time.

Um, you know, ended up in a toxic relationship and my wellness has been really, How can I put this? Finding me, I know that sounds like really cliched or mis world sort of thing. It's been to be unashamedly me, if that makes sense. Yeah. Authentically me. And that's been a huge journey from not speaking up, um, because worried about what somebody might think or, or not speaking up in case I upset someone to now speaking up and not caring if they don't like it or.

Yeah. You know, and that was a huge part of my wellness journey, finding me, finding to have the courage to be me, even finding out who I am and then, Being okay to show up as that, you know, um, I'm the only person in that, in my sort of near family that's been self-employed, um, that's perhaps moved overseas and things like that.

And now that I've moved back from Australia to the uk, in some ways that can be even hard. Mm. You know, whereas, um, now I'm really having to be very conscious about keeping me rather than again, going back to old habits. Yeah. So definitely that, that was a big part of my journey. Um, Career-wise, you know, it changes quite a lot.

I've quite recently, just from being self-employed for so many years, I've just taken on some work just working for a company just for a couple of days a week. That was quite interesting. Something I, I thought I'd never do go back to actually sort of corporate work, but it's actually something that's really I'm enjoying at the moment.

And part of that, to be quite honest, Joe, was the realization that I was doing everything on my. Living alone, working alone, and part of actually deciding to go back and do some work with an organization was to receive more. Instead of having to do it for myself, if that makes sense. Being able to share and be with people more during the day.

So that's what, that's been a bigger thing as well, the, the, the allowing the receiving people to help me and support me and, and look after me and care for me as well. So, yeah, they're probably a couple of the, the key, um, themes, but we never stopped. Do. No, we're a work in progress. Are we? We always are. And always trying to, like I said, get remember who we really are before we get filled with lots of old programming and stuff like that.

So it's, it's, we're always growing, we're always learning, and um, just as we think we're, we're okay, then something else. Will we never get it done? No,  definitely, definitely. What do you do to de-stress? What are your favorites? You know, it, it's, I'm, despite, um, doing a lot of TV and love of public speaking, I am an introvert.

See, I, I find that really hard to believe. Don't believe you, but yeah, no, uh, it's too much peopling, I find exhaust. Yeah, absolutely exhausting. So to keep my own wellness, I look at my diary and I will make sure there is sufficient alone time. Mm-hmm.  in there. Um, and for me, it can be as simple as a really good book when I allow myself that time, I feel my vibration.

again, which is all part of that wellness part by listening to how my body feels, if I do something that goes against who I am, you know, rectifying that as well because if, if I don't feel good about something that's not adding into my wellness either, does that, you know, does that sort of make sense?

Yeah. Animals, big cat lover and, and to me, I love spending time with, they add to my wellness. They make me laugh, they make me, they make me smile again. We're back to that. Anything that makes me feel. Good. Yeah. And sometimes like tomorrow, I, I've got a whole day to myself. I can't wait , and that will literally just be whatever I want to do.

I think part of my wellness is a day where I get to choose whatever I want to do, um, rather than perhaps, Um, I guess sharing my time that that's the one day of the week because I share a lot as a coach and you'll be the same. We share a lot of our energy in giving, giving, giving. Um, whether it's a good book, a box, all teases, or let me just say before I.

We spoke today. I was watching Mary Poppins. I mean, seriously, I love Mary Poppins, and I, I just, that's a wellness thing. It is like, you know, I, I can sing well, I can't sing her, so you can't help but laugh. So it's, it's choosing to do things that make me feel good. That's really important for me. What do you do?

Um, I love my meditation. I, I love solitude, love, and I love just taking myself off spending time with the dogs. That's my therapy. Therapy. I can sit in stroke Rosie for hours and it's love. That's why she worked as a therapy dog. She was. So amazing at it. She's so intuitive. Um, she always knows when I'm off vibration and she'll just come and, and do what she needs to do to put me back in alignment.

So, yeah. That's beautiful. Yeah, and my crystals and my reiki and, and self healing's really a big part of my. It's so important. Uh, and you know, you just made me, you just reminded me that your meditation, especially your, um, the digital sound bite, I love that is part of my wellness . Um, but you, you, you said something really important that it's self-reflection.

It's, it's doing it for you, isn't it? Yeah. Whatever. You need to be quite honest, whether that's a book or a a candle or Mary Poppins or some crystals, and I think it's doing. Not just saying You're gonna do it, isn't it? Yeah. It's actually doing it. And I think that's can be hard sometimes when we don't feel we're not having a good day, whereas actually that's the time we should be doing it.

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I totally agree with that. And Rosie is very special. Bless her. She's such . She's such a blessing. . Yeah. Oh, amazing. Amazing. I, I've the number of therapists that I've interviewed for these podcast episodes that we're all this, it's kind of the same, I said it on on Mel's podcast. My mom was a nurse all life and sure.

She used to say the doctors and nurses made the worst patients. Cuz imagine ignition out their advice and are very good at taking it. And I think therapists and coaches can be in danger of doing the same thing. And I know totally. For me it doesn't feel like work. So I am a, I do work, I'm a workaholic, but because it's not, Like going to a corporate job that you really don't like.

Yeah, I don't see it as work, but the danger is I can send too many hours working, whether that's face-to-face with clients or just tingling with the admin and stuff. So how do you keep that work-life balance? Yeah, it's, I've been really poor at it recently and one of the things I love to do is walk, and I noticed, I was out walking with a phone yesterday and I said, you know, there's one day, um, I li I, I literally had done 55 steps all day from working from home.

I mean, that's, that's awful. Isn't that, you know, and that's what, when I tend to be really busy, I forget to do my walks. Mm-hmm. , I forget to take that time for me and white life balance is really important. I know the difference it makes to me. , you know that as a coach in particular. Mm-hmm. . Um, you know, I can't see a, a client if I'm absolutely exhausted, but, you know, being honest here, that's something I've almost decided to, well, I have decided to improve as of January.

Not a huge fan of, um, new Year's resolutions, but it's definitely something I've let go. Mm-hmm. , you know, I used to be, I used. I used to get up every morning and do 10 minute yoga and I'd do a walk, or if not, I'd do then at lunchtime and it's so easy to let it drop, and again, that's not, that's me not caring about how I feel.

That's me more focused on doing rather than feeling. Yeah, to be quite honest, and I know how much better life feels. When we do put that work-life balance in, you know, if I'm coaching people on work-life balance, I'll, I'll often say, whose responsibility is it? And often they'll say it's my boss or my manager.

And, and it's not. You know, we get to choose at the end of the day whether we incorporate work-life balance into our own lives and not just do that, stick to it, commit to it. That's the key, isn't it? Especially this time of year when everybody will be reflecting on the year and setting their goals for the new year.

And like you say, I don't particularly like set in sort of New Year's resolutions because by February they're all out the window anyway. Totally. Because they're things that don't inspire us. That's the thing. You've gotta find something that inspires. Yes. So what I've decided to do, I'm gonna get a calendar, I'm gonna give myself a gold star  every time I, I do that because, you know, I need to do more of that.

I, I can't be, I can't be coaching people on their work life balance if I'm not practicing it myself. And, and you know that as well with your stuff, don't you? What do you do? Um, so I, I, my, so although I don't like New Year's resolutions, my goal for next year is to get up at 6:00 AM . Oh. So we did try showers 5:00 AM Club, but five o'clock is way too early for me.

Oh, no, absolutely. So My Emma does a, a 6:00 AM club, so we, um, I'm supposed to join that every morning at six every morning. Well, Monday to Friday. Oh God, no. You see, well done. If you do that. I think I gonna have to set. But if you, it gets you moving and you enjoy it. The times I've done it, I feel amazing and they all right that time of the day when nobody else is up.

That's great. I can get all my personal development work stuff done before I then go and help other people. So I, I do benefit from it, but I just need to be a bit more disciplined. I go to bed earlier so that I can sleep, that I can get all sleep. I love that. I'm gonna let, let's check in in a month's time and you can let me know how you're going on that comfortable.

Yeah, absolutely. Maybe we should both keep, keep ourselves accountable there, because like you said, when we do it, we know it's. Yeah, and the album that I produced earlier this year, the morning and Evening meditations, that I did that because when I had covid, I was so poorly, I realized how out of balance I'd become by not having that set routine.

So it was really, it was born out of doing it for myself and then realizing how beneficial it was that I then released it. So I definitely try and do a morning and an evening routine. I love that. Based. I know the last time we smoke, we spoke. You recommended that to me, so I That sounds brilliant. I'll, I'll look and get that, cuz that's just what I need as well.

Yeah, I think it's so important to have it, whatever your daily self-care routine looks like. And like you say, one size doesn't fit all, so what I do for me might not work for you and what you do might not work for everybody else, but it's finding what does work for you. But then, like you say, being consistent with it with.

And it takes scientifically proven to take 66 days to create a habit, whether that's positive or negative. So you've got to do it over and over again for least six days before it's embedded. So then it'll be easy. Then it'll be easy. Easy. Yeah. Yeah. So love it. Brilliant. What are some of the most important lessons that you've learned in these journeys through your life so far?

Ooh, gosh. Uh, um, just sort of reflecting on what I mentioned earlier, I, I think the importance of self regard of seeing yourself through the eyes of love, seeing yourself as a great person. And then what that will almost is then when you see that you allow more for yourself, if that makes sense. Yeah. I think for so many years I relied on how I felt about myself, was more about how others saw me.

Mm-hmm. . Um, you know, obviously even I'm not a mind reader, but I just made these assumptions and I realized giving myself high self regard was one of the greatest gifts I could actually do. And it was interesting from there, um, then allowing myself to have some a great life. Mm. You know? And, uh, and now I'll say, why not?

Why not? . I think another thing I've learned is, you know, independence is not always a great thing. Mm-hmm. , uh, and that's something I've, I've had to work on almost always deciding, oh, I'll do that myself. I can just do that myself. And I realize now it's, I broke my leg foot last year and it was actually really lovely to have people looking after me and, and stuff like that.

And, um, that's been a, a definitely something that, that I've learned that I don't have to do everything on my own. Yeah. And it's nice to allow people in, which, which is lovely and interesting enough, is something just over the past few weeks where I've very easily, let's say I've been asked to go out to something in the evening.

I'm, uh, as an introvert, it's so easy for me to say, oh no, just put up a pajama. And I'm not going out, but I sort of gave myself a little bit of a challenge to, to go even if I didn't feel like it. And actually it's been really interesting because it's, it's really made me laugh and smile because I've done some things and met some, some really amazing people, which normally I'd be like, I'm just staying in.

So that's probably one that I'm gonna continue definitely until till next. So pushing yourself outta your comfort zone is really important, isn't it? Yeah. I'd say pushing myself out my laziness zone, actually, , it's probably important, or pushing myself outta my pajama zone.

Ah, there's nothing wrong with staying in your pajamas. Oh, absolutely. Especially when you get new ones for Christmas. It's like, I'm get early. I'll always get new pajamas at Christmas. So first thing I do when I finish works, put my Christmas pajamas on, shut the door. Oh, I love it. Reset. Love it, . And finally, before we go, what advice would you give to someone who wants to live a healthier, happier, and more balanced life?

I guess that there was that question. Why not you? Mm. You know, whether it's a happier, more abundant, healthier, it doesn't matter. It's all a feeling. We're always after a feeling. Mm-hmm. , you know, ask yourself, why not you? You know, why shouldn't you? Have everything, be everything. Feel everything. You know.

The universe didn't say yes to you. Yes to you, yes to you. No joke. You can't have that. I'm sorry cuz you were really, um, I don't know. You, you, you forgot to do your homework in 1975. You know, it's, it's, we do that to ourselves. We exclude ourselves.  and you know, you don't have to be more, you are already, you don't have to keep trying to feel more worthy or feeling like more deserving.

You are already already that. Yeah. So, you know, maybe asking yourself, why not? Why not me? I love that. I'm glad. Thank you, . Thank you so much for joining me on this podcast episode. I'm so grateful that you opened up and shared some really important points and I hope that, and I know that is gonna help a lot of our listeners, so thank you so much.

Lisa: Always my pleasure, Jo. I know the universe sort of introduced me to you, just through the pandemic really as well. So I'm very, very grateful and I'm very appreciative that you asked me to come along today. So thank you so much. Always a pleasure to talk with you. 

Joanne: Ditto . Thank you, Lisa. 

Lisa: Thank you my love.