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Sharing Your Hope through Movies: An Interview w/ "Light of the World" Director John Schafer
What do the apostle John, a 2D animation legend, and a flying bicycle have in common? This episode! Doug and Brad chat with John and Rebekah Schafer about the upcoming animated film, "Light of the World," in theaters September 5. John directed the movie and Rebekah was the voice of Mary, the mother of Jesus. John and Rebekah take us behind the scenes and share some of the highlights and difficulties of animating the story of Jesus. This film provides an incredible opportunity to share the good news of Jesus with the people in your life. Get your popcorn and get ready for the upcoming, "Light of the World!"
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Welcome back everyone to another special episode of Go Mad, with Doug and Brad Jesse's, of course, behind the controls once again, but today's going to be a little different. This is as we mentioned earlier. This summer we have some special guests that were coming up, and this is one we have been looking forward to for a while, because it is about a great movie that's coming out, but also the heart behind it. We do have season five of the podcast launching soon, but this is really just kind of a bonus special episode, doug. We've been watching some of these movies that have been coming out in theaters. There's a lot more Christian content coming out.
Speaker 2:Well faith-centered media projects. I mean they're really on a roll. I mean the Chosen, of course, the King of Kings movie a few months ago, breaking box office records. That role really continues, we think, with this new light of the world animated film coming to theaters September 5th. I'm personally excited about this movie, first of all just because of how incredible it looks. I'm a movie guy, a movie buff, and I just I was blown away. Especially, I saw the Shane and Shane video and just even a clip of Jesus walking on water and the underwater viewpoint. It's just so creative, so good. The underwater viewpoint, and just it's just so creative, so good. But also excited because it's using a unique perspective to tell the story. We'll get in into that in a minute, something you haven't seen before. And super excited because there is a natural way for god's people to use this movie to be an ambassador.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're gonna get to that, because it is so key, circle that date now.
Speaker 2:This is all about ambassadorship, September 5th circle it I'm bringing my family. Bring yours. Don't wait for streaming on this. This is how great movies like this continue to be made and in the theaters.
Speaker 1:And let's face it, people don't want to hear from us today. That's not right. People aren't tuning into this. They want to hear from John and Rebecca Schaefer. John and Rebecca, welcome to the Go Mad with Doug and Brad podcast. Thank you, guys, for having us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's good to be here.
Speaker 1:Now John, just to let people know, john, actually, if anyone is around my age which I'm not going to say what that is but if you're around my age, you remember Superbook and John had a key role as senior producer on CBN's Superbook. Rebecca is giving voice to Mary in Light of the World and they are also married, so it goes well together. I'm not sure if it all worked out smoothly working together on the project, but we are grateful that both of you could join us today. I had a brief opportunity to connect with John and Brennan, who's with the Salvation Bone Project, and also Kyle from their organization.
Speaker 1:This was at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention. We go there every year. We have a lot of media ministry and one of the things I saw was Light of the World was going to be shown there, and I was like man. If I even get a couple minutes to bump into those guys, I would love to just talk to them because I've been following along with when this is coming out. And there I was. I think I may have frightened them slightly. They had just arrived. They were going to get set up.
Speaker 2:They've got bodyguards now, just because you're running out.
Speaker 1:They probably did, uh, but it was so. It was great because I got a few minutes to sit down with you guys, and what I want people to know, what I want our listeners to know, is that what I got to see in a brief time with them is, john, I got to see your heart and I got to hear some of your heart, and that this isn't a project that is about making money. This isn't a project that is about getting money. This isn't a project that is about getting your name out there. This is a project to point people to Jesus, and I absolutely love that. I wanted to ask you, though, real quick, john, to get a little of your story. I heard on another podcast and I'd love it if you would share it here. You and Charlie Brown have a little bit of a connection. Are you willing to share that here? Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4:You know, my mother is. She's Japanese, so she's Buddhist. My father was Christian science, and so that's kind of the world I lived in as a young boy, and it was in 1973. I was watching we watched as a family the Charlie Brown Christmas special, and when Linus was explaining to Charlie Brown what the true meaning of Christmas was, it was the first time I'd ever heard the word Savior or the word God, and so I asked my parents what did that mean? And they really didn't give me an answer in that stuff.
Speaker 4:But what I did do is that Christmas I wanted a nativity for Christmas, and so my parents bought me a nativity set that I had, and that was probably my first entry to hear about who Jesus and God was. I mean not Jesus, but Savior and God. Wow. And for me I never got that answer, and it was a lifelong journey to finally, when I found out who that was, what the purpose was, and I'd always thought to myself, if I've ever given an opportunity to tell that story, I wanted to make sure that the audience would if, if they would not have a question of a shadow of a doubt who jesus was, they wouldn't have to ask someone they would know from, from the story we told so the seed was planted for this movie how many years ago?
Speaker 4:I mean when you're amazing when you're a child. I was. That's amazing, hey, I was born 1973.
Speaker 1:There we go.
Speaker 2:Now everyone knows how old you are. I know I do math, but I don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and John, the fact that this is full circle here, from where you came in to hearing about God the first time through 2D animation and then all of a sudden there's Superbook, was not 2D, but now you're co-directing this movie that is 2D animation. I love that full circle nature of things. Why the 2D animation? What was the how?
Speaker 2:did you guys get to that? For folks who are listening 2D meaning it's well. Why don't you tell?
Speaker 4:us John what's the difference between what we're typically seeing these days and 2D so today we see a lot of stuff with computer graphics, cg imagery, and 2D is more of the traditional hand-drawn, like back if you look at Lion King, beauty and the Beast, little Mermaid and that. So that's your traditional 2D, and so for us, we love 2D animation. When everyone asks us, why did you guys do it in 2D? And they're waiting for this really amazing answer, it's like we love it.
Speaker 2:And that's it. We love 2D.
Speaker 4:And there's something about 2D that's very timeless, very enduring and enchanting. It won't age out. And so for us as a ministry, we really felt strongly that, hey one, we wanted this medium. One of the things that I presented to Brennan McPherson, who's our producer and the president of Salvation Poem Project, and Matt McPherson, who's our executive producer, is, when you kind of present, when you want to retell the story of Jesus, I want it to be like a children's storybook come to life. So it had that artistly painterly feel to it, all the little nuance of the brushstrokes, and that's the type of feel and really felt that 2D was the way we could achieve that.
Speaker 1:And, john, I have to tell you you guys nailed that. Now I know. For those who maybe don't know, I want to give a brief plug here for the movie because it is absolutely amazing it is. The 2D animation is top-notch, which not surprising when you've got for those who don't know the Bancroft brothers just pause right now. Just pause the podcast, go see what they've done, because you will be encouraged, because they have created some of the most memorable characters for Disney 2D animation, from Pumbaa and Kronk and Mulan and all these different characters, mushu.
Speaker 2:An amazing team for this movie. Yeah, my goodness.
Speaker 1:For you to work with them, for that teamwork. What I can say is that people will not go to this movie. What I can say is that people will not go to this movie. If you bring friends, which you should, if you bring family, you will not leave there saying, oh man, that was cheesy. You won't leave there saying, man, that wasn't very good. It is 2D animation that is top-notch. The story is told beautifully, which we'll get into kind of some of the storytelling. But, dougoug, we are people that truly believe in. If you're going to do something, do it with excellence.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know 2d animation is, it just gives you. There's a richness and a character to it that I don't know that the best computer graphics can do. So, guys, a few months ago, the king of kings movie surprises a lot of people, um, breaking the record for an opening weekend. We're praying for that kind of weekend, for Light of the World, september 5th, and for a faith-based animated film. It made like $19 million, won a great box office. I think that tells us, continues to tell us, from the Chosen and that and lots of other examples Ellis from the Chosen and that and lots of other examples that there is a hunger for this. There is an audience for well done I'm going to get to that in a second for really well done, faith-based films in the theater. I've seen the trailer almost a million views. Probably half of those were from me. No, no, that's a good sign. By the way, I caught that we're going to need a bigger boat. Jaws reference. That's Jaws, right, tell me you did that on purpose.
Speaker 4:There is lots of movie reference in there. I love it.
Speaker 2:That's so great. Saw the Shane and Shane video and song beautiful song, go check that out and glimpses of just the highest end animation.
Speaker 1:Now to say the difference with the King of Kings. Now, john and Rebecca this is kind of both of you there, because you look at King of Kings and they went all in on CGI and they went all in with the voices. It's like, well, you're going to know Pierce Brosnan and you're going to know all these different voices. You guys, your goal was to tell the story with excellence. So, rebecca, let me ask you, as you were, as John's, working on this and everything, how did you first get involved with kind of being some of the voice talent for it?
Speaker 3:Well, actually I was just doing a favor for the studio, reading some scratch lines so that the animators could put the animatic together. I didn't find out till months later that they had decided to go with my lines because I have a very unique ability to wail and cry and weep, which you'll see when you watch the film on september 5th. Um, but yeah, so that's really how that happened.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so everyone asks me like, oh, it's just because she's your wife, actually, we just used her for the scratch track, not realizing like later, you know, months and months down the road, tony Bancroft, who was our head of story, and Jason Heaton, he was the other head of story they reached out to me and our editor, rob, that said, hey, we actually think Rebecca is the right person to do that. You know, the emotions are real. The cry is it doesn't feel forced, it's very heartfelt, emotional and in order to make this really work, at the end, especially during the crucifixion, we want to use her and I thought at first like it was a weird moment for me, but yeah, we you know, everyone was requesting.
Speaker 1:And she nailed it. You brought a depth and a richness to Mary.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about Mary for a second here, because I mean so this is not a small task. There's so many directions you can go as a voice actress.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no pressure Playing Mary? Yeah, no pressure at all.
Speaker 2:Nothing iconic there, but so many directions you can go artistically. How did you prepare for the role and maybe what are some of your favorite? Do you have some favorite Mary moments in the movie and maybe what are some of your favorite? Do you have some favorite Mary moments in?
Speaker 3:the movie. Yeah, honestly, how I prepared for the role is I imagined what it would be. I mean Jesus, yeah, he's the light of the world and he's the Savior, he's the Messiah. But that was her son. She's a mom, she wasn't just a part, you know a character in the story Like she was his mother. She poured into him, she raised him, she nurtured him, she guided him, she put herself into him, as a mother does. And I put myself in her shoes or tried to anyways, with my son and imagined what would I do if that was my son up there? How would I respond? And that's why it's so—I'm going to cry. That's why it's so real and so raw, to be honest, because I was imagining what it would be like as a mother watching your son, even though you prepared for it your whole life. She knew what the prophecies foretold, she knew what Jesus came to do, but nothing can prepare you for witnessing it.
Speaker 2:That's a good way to put that. Yeah, so you tapped into the humanity of. Mary.
Speaker 1:Is there a moment that stuck out to you from just kind of playing that part? Uh, voicing mary yeah, it's a.
Speaker 3:It's a small moment, but for me it, um, it was really huge. When they're pulling his body off the cross and they kind of lay him in her arms and she's cradling his head, you know, here, and I imagined she had done that hundreds of times before and she just leaned down and whispered so lovingly and reverently Jesus, and that moment for me, like it broke me, because that was her baby boy and she knew what had just happened.
Speaker 2:But that was her baby boy and she knew what had just happened, but that was her son. Thank you, that's amazing.
Speaker 1:I don't have this on my question sheet, but I am wondering. I have one that I don't have on my sheet too, so we're off script at this point.
Speaker 2:I'm wondering how you guys, what decisions you had to make. I always wonder this when the crucifixion is being portrayed and it's an animated film, I saw little clips yeah, you know kids are going to see this. I saw that Jesus is beat up in it and you know there's the reality of it and at the same time it's PG. What kind of decisions did you have to make as far as the crucifixion scene goes? I?
Speaker 4:would say that was the most challenging because of how were we going to handle it, because obviously we want this to be a family film, we want children to see this and ultimately, we want children around the world to see it, and so it was really a huge team effort. You know, I wish you know Tom and I our team makes Tom and I look really good as directors.
Speaker 4:They work with us to kind of help us restage, reframe stuff. So right, when you're about to see that nail piercing to Jesus' wrist, how John's head turns so it takes the audience away from it, but what you don't see there, but what you see in John's expression, that's weighty there. So we did a lot of things like that. If you watch the film again, when you get a chance to watch the film or see it again, we made sure all the lash marks and everything they were more of a dark red so it didn't look like that open fresh wound. Because we had to keep this, so it didn't get PG-13. Because if it got PG-13, it starts to isolate your audience and limit it.
Speaker 4:So there's only one scene, one moment, where there's one bright drop of blood, and it's right when Jesus dies. And then that one single drop. The camera follows it all the way down. And that's the one I felt like, hey, if we're going to make anything red or bright, let's do it with that. And to show also the power of just what one single drop did.
Speaker 4:You know, it wasn't about all just discouraging everything. He went through the power of just that one drop and that's why we went that direction. But like if you watch when the soldier, the temple guard, gets his ears cut off, you know, you know we never show it. We had to restage a lot of stuff but we really felt like you know, we did it justice to show what Jesus went through or what anyone else who got harmed in a film, but in a way that this could be seen by a child. Obviously, a parent would have to really kind of explain certain things to a child about what's going on opposed to what they're seeing. But I think let me address that. So a child Obviously a parent would have to really kind of explain certain things to a child about what's going on opposed to what they're seeing.
Speaker 1:But I think let me address that. So any parent that's watching this, listening to this right now, knows that the way you guys did handle it it will lead to questions and that's good the way you did. It was not graphic. That's good the way you did it was not graphic, but you also didn't shy away from letting people feel that emotion and how that does impact us. So I know children will have questions, but to the parents out there, or grandparents that might take your kids, don't let that keep you from seeing it, because the reality of what Jesus went through. You can only tone that down so much. I mean, I've seen it toned down too much at times. And this you guys. I now want to just watch the movie with you and Tom and Tony, I just want to watch with you guys, to know the different decisions you make, because that's fascinating.
Speaker 1:One decision you did make and I want to get to John in just a second Doug and I wanted to ask about the character of John, because pivotal in this. But one of the things that I wanted to just let you know is greatly appreciated by us. We work in our ministry. One key part of it is working with Native American young people and they stand, they do.
Speaker 1:I just got back from spending a month with them where they tell about the hope they found in Jesus and one of the key things for so long in Native America it's been told it's the white man's God and what they stand on basketball courts and say now I might get emotional on this one is that he wasn't white, he was a Mediterranean Jew, he was darker skinned, he looked more native than he does like me, and to see that Jesus represented in this animated film I know we've seen over and over again how Jesus is portrayed and it can be powerful, but the number of times that he looks like closer to what he probably looked like, and so for all these characters to be more brown skin, to have some of the facial features of that region.
Speaker 1:I don't know what all decisions were made along the way, but that is one of the most powerful ones for me that you could have made, because it relates and it's true, it's true to God's word of who these people were. So thank you guys, that's just a thank you. There's not really a question there other than thank you guys for doing that.
Speaker 4:No, it's something that we really felt important, and especially with Jesus, and especially with Jesus, you know, when we designed our film and that stuff, we really wanted the you know, not just the ethnicity to come through, but also the shape language of what things look like. So if you look at all the Jewish characters in the film, their shape language is actually based off the Hebrew character sets, the different curls, the swirls, all that stuff. So we base that. All the romans are literally based off the character sets of the greek, the greek character signs, like that. So we even considered shape language.
Speaker 4:When you look at the color palette of our film, what we did is our art director went to, uh, went into israel and studied all the different color spices in the markets and what we really realized those same color spices are the same colors around the world, whether you're in India, china and all that. And so we thought, hey, this color palette could be a connective tissues to all regions of the world, and so we're trying to make this for a global audience. So everything in our film is very intentional in the process, from designs, colors, the animation style, and really we put all our emotions and everything into the eyes and that stuff. So when you watch the film, the eyes do speak, and we did that purposefully, because this is going to be translated in so many languages and so we really need the eyes and those expressions to resonate across cultures.
Speaker 1:So you mentioned the intentional decisions. Talk to us about John, the character of John, his age, just what led to the choice he's. For those who have not seen trailers yet, he is a young teenager in the movie.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so early on, brendan and I, when we were doing a lot of the research, we started reading some historians, theologians, where they believe that the disciples were probably in their upper teenage years, peter probably being the oldest, in his early to mid-20s. And so we started thinking let's go from that approach. And so when we looked at John being the youngest, we thought, with John, let's make him 13. And in that culture he's coming into adulthood. This is someone trying to find himself.
Speaker 4:This is kind of a coming-of-age film. If you kind of look at the way the film is set up, it's that coming-of-age film. He's got goals he wants to do, but also, at the same time, he's placed his family in a dilemma. He, he's got goals he wants to do, but also, at the same time, he's placed his family in a dilemma. And so he's got to, you know, seek out this Messiah, this story that his mother told him all his life, and to see if, if this, if one, if the Messiah is real to, if the Messiah can help. And and the the biggest thing with John is, he is the one who he's kind of been in the front row seat of Jesus, jesus's ministry, and he was the only one at the cross. So we really felt like John was the right person and make him young. Where you're watching it through his eyes of the life of Jesus, but also John is our audience.
Speaker 4:So when we made this film, we made it for everyone to watch, that's what we want everyone to come see it, but we wrote it in a way that if you had no concept of the gospel, you had no concept of Jesus or maybe a misconception of Jesus that you could watch it through John's eyes.
Speaker 4:So when John starts to believe he's the Messiah, then all of a sudden Jesus might say something completely different and it makes him question it. That's our audience. He's believing, he's not believing, he's not trusting, he is trusting and we wanted that for the audience. So we wanted the audience to connect with John and it was most important too, if they connected with John and you watched John fall in love with Jesus, that by the time when John's heart is as shared in watching what's happening to Jesus during the crucifixion, the audience would be crushed. Because the goal was when I talked with the team and that stuff if the audience is not crushed toward the end of the film, in that one third part of that third act, we didn't do our job because we need to show a friendship between John and Jesus and that they could feel it.
Speaker 1:You guys did such a great job with that. It was an intriguing choice and I think it really worked to tell this story, so I'm glad you guys went that way with John, with his age and seeing things through his eyes.
Speaker 2:I know we need to wrap up here in a minute. I wish we could talk to you all longer. I know we need to wrap up here in a minute. I wish we was new to him. That stirred him up to ask more questions, and I think of the adults and the children that will be watching this movie and have the same emotions going. I need to learn more about this. So obviously believers are going to love this movie, but from what I have read and what Brad has told me, this is not just made for believers.
Speaker 2:Based on the salvation poem Based on the salvation poem.
Speaker 1:Yes, Check out six short lines to tell about Jesus.
Speaker 2:How might a person who doesn't yet know Jesus we talk about on this podcast all the time doesn't yet know Jesus? We talk about on this podcast all the time ambassadorship and our responsibility to be Jesus to people, to share Jesus, to introduce people to their Savior. So how might a person who doesn't yet know Jesus respond to this movie? Is there something deeper here? How could this be a tool for God's people? So?
Speaker 4:literally at the end of the film spoiler alert, you know, there is we do do a call to action and it's something very unique, it's something we felt strongly about and there's something that you'll see what John does to lead someone to Jesus. But at the very end of the film we actually have it's kind of like what Marvel does with their pre-credits we have our pre-credit moment.
Speaker 4:But, it is. Really, if you want to learn more about Jesus, we give that opportunity in the film right there. And the other thing is I really just feel so strongly that this is such a strong outreach program. This movie is fun, it's entertaining. You're going to see Jesus in a different way, you're going to receive the gospel in a different way and I think if you've ever felt uncomfortable about sharing the gospel with a friend or a co-worker or an extended family member, this is that non-threatening entry point where you can take them because it's a fun movie. And it's a fun movie and, uh, and it's entertaining. And then that's where it's kind of, you know, our film is like if disney was to make a movie about the life of jesus in the 90s, this is that movie, without the musical numbers, you know oh, I love that.
Speaker 1:I love that. And, rebecca, what would you say, if you don't mind me asking what's? What are you most excited about with the, the impact of this movie when you look at how this could impact people? Because I love what you were saying there, john, and the fact you guys included it might be the part I was most emotional about. Actually watching the movie was a chance for people to really respond. A lot of Christian media not knocking it. They kind of set the stage but they don't give people that chance. That's in this movie. I mean, there's a, there's a hey, what do I do with Jesus? Rebecca, what would you say? What's something you're really excited about with the impact of this movie?
Speaker 3:Um, just, it is an evangelistic tool in and of itself, and I've never seen a film that has a call to action that in such a unique way as this film has. And it's a personal story too, but just to kind of personalize it. You know, we moved halfway across the country to be part of this mission and when.
Speaker 3:I see where it started and where it's at right now to see the story and the film come to life. It just gives me so much joy because I know that we were supposed to do what we did and it was hard to do.
Speaker 2:but I know that it's going to change lives all around the world and that gives me a lot of joy to have been a part of that wow, and and I just I bring your friends, your family, if they know jesus, if they don't, you can be confident bringing them to this awesome, this light of the world.
Speaker 2:And if you're ready september 5th and I want to say something real quick to our folks. Listen, if you're thinking well, I just saw an animated jesus movie theater a few months ago. This is a very. They are two different films, two different perspectives, yet they're both about jesus, but uh, from john's they, they look different they. I would just encourage you, make sure you go and see this again in the theaters. Don't wait for streaming. Streaming is nice, but streaming does not get more of these super high-quality, amazing movies made. You've got to go and even if you can't afford the popcorn, go buy the tickets, go to the movie in the theater and if you're part of a church.
Speaker 1:I mean buy out the seats for showings.
Speaker 1:Buy out the seats for showings, make it a church thing, because you could take your church to see it, take some of the key people in your church and then have them bring others to it, because it really is that much of a tool. I won't say which I've watched both of the animated movies that have come out this year or the one that is coming out as well and I won't say which I like better, because I'm not sure I'm supposed to. However, 2d animation tells a story in a way and you connect with it in a very personal way, and my daughter is studying animation at college. She is, and I know through it the power that there is in telling a story through animation, not just because it connects with all age ranges, but it connects internationally. There is something you can do through animation that you can't through typical media.
Speaker 1:This movie you'll see, and I know that it's part of the heart of the Salvation Poem Project to get this international as well, to have this be an international storytelling tool, and you can see that they kept it simple enough but real enough, and real and deep enough. It's simple enough yet deep enough, at the same time that it can be used in a very powerful way, not just here but around the world, and so I agree with what both of you were saying, that the impact of this can be something really special. You guys didn't go with a huge studio or anything like that to distribute it.
Speaker 1:You are counting on just people saying, hey, this is important, we need to be, able to have this and it's great and it's done with excellence and we didn't even get to scratch the surface on the music.
Speaker 2:And, if I can ask you real quick, john where was the soundtrack?
Speaker 1:Where was this recorded?
Speaker 4:So we did it in Budapest and two days after we recorded in Budapest, that's when I went to NRB, so that's why I probably wasn't probably too startled about the stalker after me.
Speaker 1:I was jet lagging. There we go, and the soundtrack is beautiful, oh, and the soundtrack real quick here.
Speaker 4:You know we love the movies, so, like the soundtrack is an inspiration from alex, who I worked with, mckenzie, who's our uh, our composer. You know I'm inspired by anything of the 80s and 90s of john williams and we put that in there. The ending literally we. You should do another podcast where we could talk about the inspirations, like the ending of the film is literally the ending of ET oh my goodness, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:Now I have to watch your bikes. Are there flying bikes? There are no bikes, no but oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2:Well, that is awesome. This has been a real honor to speak with you guys. This just is an amazing work of art. It's fun, it's funny, it's powerful. Do you guys have a moment for us to pray with?
Speaker 2:you about the impact of this film, absolutely, heavenly Father, we are just honored, excited to speak with a brother and sister in Christ here, so passionate about the gospel, so passionate about bringing it with excellence to the world. Lord, a lot of people are going to see this. They're going to see it in the theater, they're going to see it in streaming on phones. For a lot of years. We just somehow you know all the people that will see it and you, lord, will be the one that is drawing every person that watches this, lord, that if they're going to be drawn to the gospel, to you, you're going to have to do it. We pray you would do that for every person that watches this film.
Speaker 2:We pray for amazing word of mouth. We pray that the film would do really well. A lot of people would see it just because for your glory, lord, so that more people can be introduced to how awesome you are or be reminded of it. So we just pray for these coming days, where I'm sure John and Rebecca have a lot of other things they're tending to to help this go smoothly. We pray. September 5th would be a miraculous day at the movies. That theaters would be full of churches, lost people saved, people excited to see this film In Jesus' name, amen.
Speaker 1:Amen, amen. John and Rebecca, thank you for joining us, and to our listeners here and all of us checking us out on YouTube. You know, until next time, go mad.