Stocking Stuffer: Pain And Gain

On our final stocking stuffer of the season, we need to go through pains to make our gains!!!

Our Stocking Stuffers are all the worst movies we have been given over the years as gifts during the holidays.

On tonight's episode:

• Pain and gains in podcasting.
• Pains and gains in Michael Bay movies.
• Pains and gains in a Michael Bay movie called Pain And Gain.
• The most un-Michael Bay movie.
• Three of the dumbest criminals alive.
• How Mark Wahlberg got on the Transformers train.
• Evolved snakes.
• Other stories from Rick And Morty Season 4.
• Big Bird is dead.
• Merry Christmas.

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Transcript

spk_0:   0:03
Hey, David. Yeah, there's no game without pain in podcasting. Yeah, did you know that? Like that. But he was told Yes, The golden rule, according to podcast dot com. Actually, that's probably a porno dumpsite. Nobody go there.

spk_1:   0:22
Correct. Open a box of wine or pour Something cold on ice because it's the binge Watchers podcast. Yeah. Uh, so

spk_0:   0:56
we watched painting game because it was gifted to me as a stocking stuffer. What are stock is never stuck in stuffers are a DVD or movie or iTunes card for movie or something, or like a gift card for movies that a movie liver gets from somebody that is a friend or family member who doesn't know them that well or doesn't really care to think about the gift too much and you just get handed a movie. Luckily, I actually do like painting game. And although Michael Bay's not my favorite filmmaker, I do like, um, Armageddon, right? Bruce Wills and Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler and Jesus. What a guy. Oh, Billy Bob Thornton. There's a lot. I mean, there's a ton of people that movie Michael Clarke Duncan's in there, Owen Wilson, and it goes on Yeah, Yeah, but he goes on. And, uh, so you know, and then, obviously Original Transformers Movie adaptation. I do disagree with a lot of the Michael Day choices for the Transformers movie franchise, but and then I think most people probably like him for the Bad Boys entries. But painting game is like kind of a almost unlike Michael Bay Michael Bay movie like If you wanted to get something that was, like the least Michael Bay style, it might be this movie. This movie is actually more like a totally Scott movie, like it has the editing, like the cutting and rhythm and flow and tone of the dominant Harvey Story that came out of dominant, which was like one of Tony Scott's like last films before he died, right? Okay, okay, I wasn't sure where you're going with that. You see that? Yeah, like the tone of this movie is, is is like drastically different from his other movies. The only thing that thing here that's like his signature camera move is to go between objects and cut cut on transitions. So he'll like trying to push a what looks like a pinhole camera through like a wall or like a bullet hole in a wall. He did that. The dramatic scene in a house wouldn't like. They were. There's basically three guys in here. I think it's a dark Woburn. Well, oh, you come by the oh yeah, yeah, it's Mark Wahlberg, Dwayne Johnson and Anthony Mackie. And if you like Anthony Mackie and you're like, What did he do before he got cast its Falcon and the giant Marvel adventure comic book movies? He's actually pretty cool this movie. Well, not not cool, but, like Interesting. He plays a pretty interesting character. He's like the psychic, too. Mark Wall works character in here. So basically, what's playing a game with the little talking about gains They're talking about these, um, wait listers who like you know, the whole lifestyle is based around fitness, but they're tryingto pursue the American dream, and it gets out of control. And it's loosely based on like, I think, an article. But I don't know if the crimes are correct. If they really committed these crimes, and it's really three guys or if it's one guy in real life, you know, they like the things that you now is like. They tell you they don't tell you true stories anymore. They tell you what what they think might be true. You don't mean like there's no fact checking anymore. Just like we've heard this like, hard positive should happen to you. That's what it feels like. But, um, so yeah, this guy, he's like a like a personal fitness coach of the gym. And he feels like he's kind of like, you know, hit the ceiling and whatever in his life, and he can't burst through to the next level. And that means a guy who's like a real schlubby, Um, like immigrant business owner who he liked looks down upon because he thinks, like, here's this guy comes out from nowhere and, like, you know, just has a bunch of businesses or whatever. So he's obviously every use of the guy, right? Um, and then I think the guy was like a series of Delhi's or something, and he's kind of a prick. I mean, you know, don't get me wrong. Like, um, he probably doesn't deserve to be kidnapped, But he's not a very nice guy, regardless, and then, you know, um, I think these things don luego. I think that was Mark Wahlberg's character's name. Remember the other Guysnames Me? And it's so hard to remember their names. I think Anthony Maggie's characters Adrian and the other guy was like, maybe call or something but something like that. But anyway, so basically these three guys, they all have their own little issues, which is really funny, because that's kind of like a downfall looking a little character quirks like what ultimately brings them to him. But they kidnapped this guy torture room and get him to, like, sign over his house, his boat, his bank accounts. Um, yeah, basically, whatever he has in the city of Miami or something. But what's really weird is like, how do they think they were gonna get away with, like, living in the U. S. House? You mean like and just like taking over his regular business is that he has like, No, there's no red flags, you know, like E. I don't know. I mean, but the storyteller who's like the private detective who used to be a police officer, played by Ed Harris. I think that Harris telling the whole story like is like basically saying, Yeah, there's like three of the dumbest criminals alive. Yeah, yes. So it's kind of one of exactly what I kind of enjoyed about this movie is like the main protagonists or really dumb idiots. My other than you know, comedy like Dumber Dumber. You really don't. Your main characters usually have to be somewhat smart. Yeah, not these guys. And it's kind of funny. They go to like a seminar training. They go like this kind of types, like the 99 Homes thing like like selling the American dream right? Like if you hustle and get money, you could get more money and like he goes to, like a like a guru speaking engagement or something like that. And they call him like, What? Tony Chew or something. And it's played by Kim Jon, and he's like a big money guy, like he's like a wolf of Wall Street type. And so he inspires the main character in this movie to like, go get like against all odds and like he takes it quite literally right, like he literally takes to pursuit of happiness as like, very literal, like don't let anything stop you and basically literally commit crimes. Attempt, murder. Um, I mean, what do the newbie they do? Murder, You know, you accidental homicide. You mean like like it just goes on and on, like grand larceny, like fraud, Whatever they call, like the banking crimes that he commits when he has his body to the public, notary on all the guys like deeds and pink slips to his cars and everything. So the rock plays like a super fascinating character in this movie. Like I feel like there was more levels have his character to to explore. But I think that rock probably chimed in and, like, edited his character, you know, for like, his image, but his character still pretty weird. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is enough of a lesbian at this point his career going for think those kinds of decisions. Like, when did this come out? Because, like, I feel like this is one of, like, working. We're still trying to get his footing. 2013. So he wasn't Was he the rock rock in 2013? Oh, he was away the rock by then. All right. Okay. Well, it's interesting to see him play like a second fiddle role because he actually He's like the third wheel, right? Because he's like the the lowest man on the totem pole. So to speak of this trio, and I understood he, like, took a budget cut for this. So you must have really liked the project. Yeah, because I mean his, like, his character seems like a tweaker like pseudo Cristian. And he almost seemed like he was actually like a closeted prison homosexual, like Like it's like there's gonna be some version of the script where, like, he hooks up with the priest whose church he's living in, You know what I mean? Like his character, so out there, like just weird, does weird things to the whole whole course of the movie. The stupidest thing his character does is he gets his tosha off and then he randomly sticks his toe in a little dog's mouth. I don't know, dude. Look, let's just leave evidence everywhere. And then the other stupid things, like remember when they go to exchange the chain saws and the Home Depot and they got hair and blood on the electric chair and they're like no big deal, like we're just here to assure you this is broken is something wrong, you know? And the clerk, the clerk, like, doesn't even want to assume that it's hair blood. She just, like, automatically goes, Oh, you got some this dog hair for caught in the thing here, and then go exchange it on aisle four. Anyway, if you like fast cars, the movies filled with have fast cars that have fancy names and categories that I don't even know. I recognize the Lamborghini that was purple. Everything else in the movie, I have no idea. Um, And if you're in a body building, here you go. You know, um, so, yeah, if you're into gains and money and fast cars, this movie has all three of those. And if you are Michael Day fan, you just want to see all of Michael Bay movies. You at some point have to watch this film? Uh, yeah, I'd say this is, like, probably for me, his second best movie after the rock. Uh oh, yeah. I wasn't even really thinking about the rock, which also headed there, isn't it? Yeah, that's true. So maybe that's what it was like. You just like, did it from a favor. Like hey had come to this narration and play this, you know, epilogue character that we have here. Got a moving the story along, Um, as interesting. And you could see, like, how this lines up Mark Roberts future in one of the transform or two of the Transformers movies, you know, because I haven't worked with Michael on this one. Or Mr Bae, Whatever. You're home. Ah, yeah, haven't I Guess it's hard to compare my review films because he did get to the level of filmmaking that most filmmakers probably don't reach. And then it's like And then you have to be compared to that level cause Armageddon is a hit man, and it's a blockbuster, and it's right up there. So that's your standard, right? Yeah. And he did that one, like, 99 or something. First thing you do before that, he did like the one of the bad boys. Well, it was bad. Boys was in 95. Then the rock was in 96. Okay, the I mean the other Robin with Nic Cage in. If you say yes, sir. Sean Connery and William Foresight and Michael Bean. I'm sure some other people and Tony Todd and I I just watched it recently, so I was, like, surprised how many big names were in it? Well, both team would buy, but Tony Todd was one that surprised me. Okay. Thank fucking candy man is in this. There's a lot of people in that movie, and they're all good. They're all good at what they do. You see, responsible for the island, though. Yes. Yeah. I mean, he directed it. He everybody was somebody. Script. All right, well, that's the stinker. That's that's the the, uh, the red mark in his ledger. There. Really? I have to see. And I thought that was one of his. Ah, his rare good ones are, you know, like it was different some Wow. Wow, I But I also don't care for the Transformers movies. Did any of them? No. Damn it. I got a chance for you to sign the booth trilogy. Like the three of the season. I like Schuyler Boop. I just don't care for the look. Please. Damn it. The best they were is probably revenge of the phone was probably the most tight transformer story included. A lot of the mythology. I think like part three should have been parked to impart initiative Part three like they kind of have. The story's reversed like the stakes are higher in part to the new Part three, and it's a logical course of events like The Moon and this government. Transformers were related in the first and second movie, so the third plot doesn't really make sense, because how did they not know what I'm saying? Like have, like, they didn't know about the situation on the moon and Part three, but they had to look like it's kind of like false logic, you know? I mean, like, there's just too much addition to is in part three. And then, of course, it spins off on this random place where they go to all these different lengths with the next few ones that were just, like, really kind of ridiculous. So I think I've always seen what, and the dinosaur one there's like seven of them so surprised, like you can't even find one to enjoy. Um, I'll have to check out Bumble Bee at some point. I heard that 10 there was a Disney plus that I thought you were watching that. You said you never watched her wouldn't wanna watch. And remember, This is your wife watching? Or if you have other friends that you're sharing your account or not sharing your account? This needed anything. I didn't tell you anything. You heard nothing. Um God, also damn movie on there. Oh, did you want revenge of the SCIF? Um, no, I think a friend of ours was There you go, your accounts and dirty dirty. It's gonna get, like, a sexually transmitted computer virus or something. No, but that's actually a Star Wars movies for a long time. What? The revenge of the city. Did we go? Were you? Yeah. Yeah, we went together, so Yeah, well, we kinda I remember specifically, we wouldn't solve that. This is kind of fucked up. We saw it in an eye next screen, but it was not an eye max screening. Yeah, it was really so he won't saw the movie on a Nynex screen, But it wasn't an imax showing, so it felt like, ah, very small screen compared to what? The rest of it? Waas. I saw some more leaks for rise of Skywalker. Really? Just saw, like, 10 minutes ago, huh? Well, there's a new lightsaber and I know it's color. By the time this gets posted, I think the movie will be out. Probably know anyway, that's what's funny is we'll talk about it now, but they won't hear this. So after the fact that it's not really a spoiler, you know what I mean? Anything I say tonight won't really matter because they have seen that. And then Curtis, as it goes, says, I mean, we could have, like, a spoiler free our spoil a terrific Rick and Morty discussion, and they have seen it by now. Yeah, in theory, they would have had a chance to see the new the latest Frickin Morning, which is a Terminator spoof and also a spoof of this. It's a random reference, and I I'm really surprised that the Rick and Morty guy's air fans of the show there's a show about, like all the Air Force investigations, the majestic five or whatever of like all the UFO stuff. And I think it's on the History Channel. And it's about like the psychiatrist that the Air Force hired to go investigate all the early UFO stories. Definitely sh this The little snake doctor's in that little the Air Force base. Whatever in their Pentagon, that's what that looks like. Like the Air Force officer with the doctor. And they go in and investigate like I was. That blew my mind that that first of all, that was a reference in there. But what are we talking about? What about Rick and Morty episode where Morty gets bitten by a space snake? Then they find a planet inhabited by semi intelligent snakes who are evolving. But they're a little bit behind our evolution. And then she gets crazy with time travel and a bunch of Terminator references where the snakes are, like out terminating each other. Well, here's the funny thing is there's a ton of references to like multiple movies there because the very first scene is actually was like the movie arrival that just came out a few years ago. We're like where an alien comes or you know, the need, the earth snake. And then they go get a linguist toe like figure out what the fuck is saying, and then it turns into the Terminator. And then, uh, I almost thought they're gonna go for back to the future reference outside of brick and mortar themselves. You didn't see the poster in the background? Well, I saw that, but I thought like when it went back to 1985 that was all gonna be. But my wife caught a Star Trek reference because the resistance is futile. Aliens was in here. There's a lot of stuff, A lot of stuff. Bannon. They crammed in a bunch of shit and you all got it through hisses and snakes. So very Christmas, folks, we just talked about Rick. Good morning for you. This is the last episode, actually, until the new year. Yeah. So we're taking a little mid season break, their adult swim style. What else is going on? I mean, I don't know if the last minute we gotta cram in some true Christmas movies so they would know we're watching on the actual holiday or during the holiday break. Wait, what's the buns? Christmas movies? Yeah. Um, it's my line. I'm gonna be You are. I do wanna watch die hard again. I'm gonna try to sneak that in this weekend, but I don't know. Yeah. Grad like die hard and gremlins. I would like to watch. I don't want any of my trifecta, which is usually Christmas story. Bad Santa and Lampoon's Christmas vacation Did that bad sense into sex. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't the It was a mess. It was unnecessary. Yeah, that's true. It was like nobody needed the sequel. Um, but I want some buns. We watch Christmas, our Muppet Christmas. Carol. I haven't seen that for years. That would hold up. And I really like the Muppet movies. Really? Yeah. I really like that. Will love it. Show. Um, I like the original Muppet movie. There was, like, the original. There's a It's like a road trip we've run into Big Bird, and that's gonna cross over. Big Bird has his own movie, right? The big bird dude is Dad. I mean, that's the kind of city Wait and just play makers big. Oh, God. Yeah. So I'll be weapons in die hard. I'm gonna go see rise of Skywalker. Like undoubtedly I don't know if I'm gonna see it on opening night. Usually, uh, just busy with crap, you know, on Fridays, but would be cool to, like, go see it when the hype is still up there. And ultimately, there's been some spoilers and They seem to be supported by spoiler fax, which I don't know, take kick it with a grain of salt. But it seems like some stuff it's leaked is legit. But it's not everything. It's not the whole story. Till what the p d a. Gets it the next day. Oh, man, Oh, man. DeLoreans dropping early. I heard that. I think it's probably just because they want to send people off to see Star Wars. Yeah, I said Disney didn't want to compete with two Star Wars. Things that'll be really funny if people like, Oh, nobody went to see rise because they're home watching Baby Yoda, She gives you every hilarious. So you had folks, if you our Michael beef and you got to complete the Michael Bay saga, you gotta watch pain and gain If you want to see what the rock was doing in the mid to thousands Take a look of pain and gain You're going to see Mark Wahlberg being less Mark Walberg e Do you wash paying them game? Uh, yeah, it's definitely a stocking stuffer, but actually of the ones I yanked out, it's probably my tops. Like I actually enjoyed the movie. It was like, right on. And, uh and that's a wrap