{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":0.0,"endTime":2.58,"body":"(upbeat music)"},{"startTime":2.58,"endTime":6.9,"body":"Hello all Star listeners and welcome to another episode"},{"startTime":6.9,"endTime":9.56,"body":"of the Veterinary Round Table, a very special episode"},{"startTime":9.56,"endTime":11.32,"body":"'cause it is our Christmas episode."},{"startTime":11.32,"endTime":12.82,"body":"(baby crying)"},{"startTime":12.82,"endTime":15.26,"body":"The podcast where we answer your veterinary related questions"},{"startTime":15.26,"endTime":16.8,"body":"while having some fun along the way."},{"startTime":16.8,"endTime":17.88,"body":"If you enjoyed today's episode,"},{"startTime":17.88,"endTime":20.32,"body":"be sure to leave us a review on your podcast provider of choice"},{"startTime":20.32,"endTime":21.76,"body":"and if you have any feedback to offer"},{"startTime":21.76,"endTime":25.36,"body":"to improve the veterinary round table, let us 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sweater."},{"startTime":909.36,"endTime":910.76,"body":"- Yeah, that's a little overweight."},{"startTime":910.76,"endTime":913.84,"body":"- My sweater is from Christmas vacation."},{"startTime":913.84,"endTime":915.6,"body":"- What does it say?"},{"startTime":915.6,"endTime":916.44,"body":"- I don't know."},{"startTime":916.44,"endTime":917.44,"body":"- I don't know, Margot."},{"startTime":917.44,"endTime":918.28,"body":"- Oh, nice."},{"startTime":918.28,"endTime":919.12,"body":"- Nice."},{"startTime":919.12,"endTime":920.96,"body":"- Nice, this guy didn't get it when they saw it."},{"startTime":920.96,"endTime":921.8,"body":"- I got it."},{"startTime":921.8,"endTime":922.64,"body":"- Me and Harrison didn't."},{"startTime":922.64,"endTime":924.44,"body":"- Harrison and Courtney."},{"startTime":924.44,"endTime":925.28,"body":"- Wow."},{"startTime":925.28,"endTime":926.28,"body":"- Why is the carpet wet?"},{"startTime":926.28,"endTime":927.92,"body":"- Well, the turntables."},{"startTime":927.92,"endTime":928.76,"body":"- Yes."},{"startTime":928.76,"endTime":929.6,"body":"- What?"},{"startTime":929.6,"endTime":930.76,"body":"- I don't get that."},{"startTime":930.76,"endTime":931.68,"body":"- On the table's turn?"},{"startTime":931.68,"endTime":933.24,"body":"- No, why the carpet's wet."},{"startTime":933.24,"endTime":934.8,"body":"- Why is the carpet wet, Todd?"},{"startTime":934.8,"endTime":935.64,"body":"- Isn't it in the movie?"},{"startTime":935.64,"endTime":936.48,"body":"- Yes."},{"startTime":936.48,"endTime":937.32,"body":"- I don't know, Margot."},{"startTime":937.32,"endTime":938.32,"body":"That's the part of this sweater."},{"startTime":938.32,"endTime":940.48,"body":"- I get that now, but as we said it, I was like,"},{"startTime":940.48,"endTime":942.32,"body":"\"Morgot, I get that now.\""},{"startTime":942.32,"endTime":944.6,"body":"- Oh, you have a Christmas shoe vantillum."},{"startTime":944.6,"endTime":945.44,"body":"- Yes, I was."},{"startTime":945.44,"endTime":947.28,"body":"- Did you say that?"},{"startTime":947.28,"endTime":948.68,"body":"- Margot and Christmas shoes."},{"startTime":948.68,"endTime":950.36,"body":"- I have snowflakes on."},{"startTime":950.36,"endTime":952.52,"body":"- Oh, duck wall."},{"startTime":952.52,"endTime":954.44,"body":"- I brought all your socks or lame."},{"startTime":954.44,"endTime":955.44,"body":"- I brought all that."},{"startTime":955.44,"endTime":957.2,"body":"- You don't have socks like antlers and..."},{"startTime":957.2,"endTime":958.72,"body":"- You don't have to put your socks on."},{"startTime":958.72,"endTime":959.96,"body":"- I just said that."},{"startTime":959.96,"endTime":961.48,"body":"(laughs)"},{"startTime":961.48,"endTime":963.8,"body":"- I literally was like the one time I don't wear a fuzzy sock."},{"startTime":963.8,"endTime":965.36,"body":"- I'm here today."},{"startTime":965.36,"endTime":967.6,"body":"- We are, it's like a late 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know."},{"startTime":1003.64,"endTime":1004.48,"body":"- No husband."},{"startTime":1004.48,"endTime":1006.4,"body":"(laughs)"},{"startTime":1006.4,"endTime":1008.96,"body":"- Yeah, I, you know, as I'm in school"},{"startTime":1008.96,"endTime":1011.68,"body":"with my fifth son trying to figure out why it matters"},{"startTime":1011.68,"endTime":1013.52,"body":"that I'm learning about the Roman Empire."},{"startTime":1013.52,"endTime":1014.52,"body":"(laughs)"},{"startTime":1014.52,"endTime":1018.44,"body":"I am like, this is absolutely like ridiculous."},{"startTime":1018.44,"endTime":1020.6,"body":"Or calculus."},{"startTime":1020.6,"endTime":1022.52,"body":"- Well, I'm like, I can see math as..."},{"startTime":1022.52,"endTime":1023.52,"body":"- Well, math, yes."},{"startTime":1023.52,"endTime":1025.36,"body":"- But like, they're a math, but like..."},{"startTime":1025.36,"endTime":1026.2,"body":"- Certain math."},{"startTime":1026.2,"endTime":1027.84,"body":"- I mean, if you're 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everything."},{"startTime":1066.16,"endTime":1067.0,"body":"- It was so cool."},{"startTime":1067.0,"endTime":1069.48,"body":"- It was probably home-eck or something."},{"startTime":1069.48,"endTime":1070.48,"body":"I don't know what class it was,"},{"startTime":1070.48,"endTime":1072.48,"body":"but we had to carry on an egg for a week."},{"startTime":1072.48,"endTime":1073.32,"body":"- Oh yeah."},{"startTime":1073.32,"endTime":1074.16,"body":"- Is it a baby?"},{"startTime":1074.16,"endTime":1075.0,"body":"- An egg."},{"startTime":1075.0,"endTime":1075.84,"body":"- Yeah, that's like a life skill."},{"startTime":1075.84,"endTime":1076.68,"body":"- You could keep it a lot."},{"startTime":1076.68,"endTime":1077.68,"body":"- Like a life, whatever."},{"startTime":1077.68,"endTime":1078.76,"body":"- You have to keep it alive."},{"startTime":1078.76,"endTime":1079.6,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":1079.6,"endTime":1080.44,"body":"- So you have to make 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know."},{"startTime":1133.56,"endTime":1137.56,"body":"- Let's go on to cases that we are sharing."},{"startTime":1137.56,"endTime":1138.56,"body":"- Are we all doing one this time?"},{"startTime":1138.56,"endTime":1139.56,"body":"Right?"},{"startTime":1139.56,"endTime":1140.56,"body":"- We have time for all."},{"startTime":1140.56,"endTime":1141.56,"body":"- No, okay."},{"startTime":1141.56,"endTime":1142.56,"body":"- Okay."},{"startTime":1142.56,"endTime":1143.56,"body":"Courtney, do you want to go first?"},{"startTime":1143.56,"endTime":1144.56,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":1144.56,"endTime":1145.56,"body":"- Okay."},{"startTime":1145.56,"endTime":1146.56,"body":"- Once again, I'm a handy dandy notes."},{"startTime":1146.56,"endTime":1150.56,"body":"- So we had a cat come in."},{"startTime":1150.56,"endTime":1151.56,"body":"- Why?"},{"startTime":1151.56,"endTime":1152.56,"body":"- I think she's doing this one."},{"startTime":1152.56,"endTime":1153.56,"body":"- No, no, no."},{"startTime":1153.56,"endTime":1154.56,"body":"It's okay."},{"startTime":1154.56,"endTime":1155.56,"body":"- Okay, cool."},{"startTime":1155.56,"endTime":1156.56,"body":"- Are you?"},{"startTime":1156.56,"endTime":1157.56,"body":"- No, I have no."},{"startTime":1157.56,"endTime":1158.56,"body":"- What are you doing?"},{"startTime":1158.56,"endTime":1159.56,"body":"- I don't know if you guys can see me."},{"startTime":1159.56,"endTime":1160.56,"body":"- This is not our patient."},{"startTime":1160.56,"endTime":1161.56,"body":"It's a foul-spatient."},{"startTime":1161.56,"endTime":1162.56,"body":"- Oh, yes it is."},{"startTime":1162.56,"endTime":1163.56,"body":"- Okay, you do it."},{"startTime":1163.56,"endTime":1164.56,"body":"- Go, go, go."},{"startTime":1164.56,"endTime":1165.56,"body":"- No, I'll contribute."},{"startTime":1165.56,"endTime":1166.56,"body":"- No, no, no."},{"startTime":1166.56,"endTime":1167.56,"body":"- I'll do something else."},{"startTime":1167.56,"endTime":1168.56,"body":"- I'll do it."},{"startTime":1168.56,"endTime":1169.56,"body":"- Just tag team."},{"startTime":1169.56,"endTime":1170.56,"body":"- You're good."},{"startTime":1170.56,"endTime":1171.56,"body":"- Okay, go."},{"startTime":1171.56,"endTime":1172.56,"body":"- We'll contribute together."},{"startTime":1172.56,"endTime":1173.56,"body":"- Okay, so seven-year-old cat came in."},{"startTime":1173.56,"endTime":1177.56,"body":"He was not eating or drinking for the last three days."},{"startTime":1177.56,"endTime":1178.56,"body":"- Oh, he was different."},{"startTime":1178.56,"endTime":1179.56,"body":"- Okay, keep going."},{"startTime":1179.56,"endTime":1180.56,"body":"- Oh, cool."},{"startTime":1180.56,"endTime":1181.56,"body":"- Yeah, it's..."},{"startTime":1181.56,"endTime":1183.56,"body":"- He, in the past, has had a history of constipation."},{"startTime":1183.56,"endTime":1186.56,"body":"And when he goes through these phases, usually he 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all."},{"startTime":1221.56,"endTime":1229.56,"body":"So they took abdominal X-rays and there was stuff in the intestines and it looked like a linear-born body, which is where the intestines become."},{"startTime":1229.56,"endTime":1231.56,"body":"And intestines become placated, right?"},{"startTime":1231.56,"endTime":1232.56,"body":"That's what, okay."},{"startTime":1232.56,"endTime":1235.56,"body":"Just want to make sure I'm explaining that, right?"},{"startTime":1235.56,"endTime":1245.56,"body":"So they took him to surgery and actually when they were intubating him, they noticed string wrapped around his tongue, like really, really tight."},{"startTime":1245.56,"endTime":1248.56,"body":"It was almost like cutting off the blood circulation to his tongue."},{"startTime":1248.56,"endTime":1250.56,"body":"And so they found that."},{"startTime":1250.56,"endTime":1255.56,"body":"And so they cut that off, but you can't just really pull it out of their mouth. That's how it works."},{"startTime":1255.56,"endTime":1266.56,"body":"And so Dr. McDivitt did the surgery and ended up being, she did three inner-automies and a gastronomy, I believe, or maybe two inner-automies, and it ended up being all the way from his tongue into his colon."},{"startTime":1266.56,"endTime":1268.56,"body":"How did you know about that?"},{"startTime":1268.56,"endTime":1269.56,"body":"That's a very..."},{"startTime":1269.56,"endTime":1270.56,"body":"Sowing thread, I think."},{"startTime":1270.56,"endTime":1272.56,"body":"So it was literally from like mouth to butt."},{"startTime":1272.56,"endTime":1273.56,"body":"Oh my goodness."},{"startTime":1273.56,"endTime":1275.56,"body":"But she got it all out and he's doing really well."},{"startTime":1275.56,"endTime":1276.56,"body":"And he's doing well?"},{"startTime":1276.56,"endTime":1281.56,"body":"Yeah. And he was so, like, he was a little grumpy when he got here and we were doing stuff obviously because he didn't feel well."},{"startTime":1281.56,"endTime":1283.56,"body":"And then the day after he was so sweet."},{"startTime":1283.56,"endTime":1286.56,"body":"He was a sweetest cat. He was just like rubbing all over everybody."},{"startTime":1286.56,"endTime":1288.56,"body":"His tongue was killing him."},{"startTime":1288.56,"endTime":1289.56,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1289.56,"endTime":1292.56,"body":"But yeah, we got it off successfully, but I mean, it was like..."},{"startTime":1292.56,"endTime":1294.56,"body":"His whole body was just..."},{"startTime":1294.56,"endTime":1295.56,"body":"Was it that?"},{"startTime":1295.56,"endTime":1296.56,"body":"Yeah, he was eating."},{"startTime":1296.56,"endTime":1297.56,"body":"Yeah, he wasn't eating it."},{"startTime":1297.56,"endTime":1298.56,"body":"And he couldn't keep water or food down."},{"startTime":1298.56,"endTime":1299.56,"body":"Wow."},{"startTime":1299.56,"endTime":1301.56,"body":"He didn't eat for three days, which because he probably didn't feel good in eating this time."},{"startTime":1301.56,"endTime":1302.56,"body":"I'm not eating."},{"startTime":1302.56,"endTime":1303.56,"body":"That's a surgery."},{"startTime":1303.56,"endTime":1306.56,"body":"And it's also very important to check their mouth."},{"startTime":1306.56,"endTime":1308.56,"body":"But sometimes you can't win their week."},{"startTime":1308.56,"endTime":1309.56,"body":"Well, sometimes you can't see it."},{"startTime":1309.56,"endTime":1312.56,"body":"Like, like, um, sewing thread is so..."},{"startTime":1312.56,"endTime":1313.56,"body":"Oh, it was..."},{"startTime":1313.56,"endTime":1314.56,"body":"It might last for eights in."},{"startTime":1314.56,"endTime":1319.56,"body":"And you can see the inflammation associated, but initially when it first happens, sometimes it can be really easy to miss."},{"startTime":1319.56,"endTime":1322.56,"body":"But if there's anything you take away from this one case, it is..."},{"startTime":1322.56,"endTime":1327.56,"body":"If you have a cat that is not eating and vomiting, it always should go to 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can't..."},{"startTime":1350.56,"endTime":1351.56,"body":"Oh, they didn't want to do it right away."},{"startTime":1351.56,"endTime":1352.56,"body":"That's right."},{"startTime":1352.56,"endTime":1353.56,"body":"And then he came back."},{"startTime":1353.56,"endTime":1354.56,"body":"And he'd eat the whole thing."},{"startTime":1354.56,"endTime":1355.56,"body":"Yep."},{"startTime":1355.56,"endTime":1358.56,"body":"Especially with it being Christmas season and all the ribbon out."},{"startTime":1358.56,"endTime":1359.56,"body":"And stuff, ever..."},{"startTime":1359.56,"endTime":1360.56,"body":"Yeah, be careful."},{"startTime":1360.56,"endTime":1361.56,"body":"Yeah, for sure."},{"startTime":1361.56,"endTime":1362.56,"body":"String is a big offender."},{"startTime":1362.56,"endTime":1363.56,"body":"Caps like string."},{"startTime":1363.56,"endTime":1364.56,"body":"Not an argue."},{"startTime":1364.56,"endTime":1369.56,"body":"I mean, it's obviously with like that type of string, it's hard to see if cats awake and they're moving and stuff."},{"startTime":1369.56,"endTime":1370.56,"body":"Yeah, absolutely."},{"startTime":1370.56,"endTime":1378.56,"body":"Honestly, if it's a big concern, we're just sedate and do an oral exam because if that's what it is and hopefully we can avoid if it was recent avoid surgery."},{"startTime":1378.56,"endTime":1379.56,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1379.56,"endTime":1386.56,"body":"Because a lot of the times I feel like we do find it when we go to intubate because they're almost completely anesthetized and then you pull their tongue on your like, oh, that's a problem."},{"startTime":1386.56,"endTime":1389.56,"body":"Yeah, because cats don't really like oral exams anyway when they're awake."},{"startTime":1389.56,"endTime":1390.56,"body":"That's crazy."},{"startTime":1390.56,"endTime":1391.56,"body":"Well, very cool."},{"startTime":1391.56,"endTime":1394.56,"body":"Okay, well, my case is also a fowse patient."},{"startTime":1394.56,"endTime":1395.56,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1395.56,"endTime":1400.56,"body":"It is a tenural cat that presented for lameness in the back."},{"startTime":1400.56,"endTime":1402.56,"body":"I feel like right leg."},{"startTime":1402.56,"endTime":1403.56,"body":"And..."},{"startTime":1403.56,"endTime":1404.56,"body":"Wait, is this okay?"},{"startTime":1404.56,"endTime":1405.56,"body":"That's what I was talking about."},{"startTime":1405.56,"endTime":1406.56,"body":"Are you talking about..."},{"startTime":1406.56,"endTime":1407.56,"body":"Is it fowse case?"},{"startTime":1407.56,"endTime":1408.56,"body":"Your case?"},{"startTime":1408.56,"endTime":1410.56,"body":"It's fowse patient, but I diagnosed it and saw it."},{"startTime":1410.56,"endTime":1411.56,"body":"But I'm not doing this one."},{"startTime":1411.56,"endTime":1412.56,"body":"You're not doing this one?"},{"startTime":1412.56,"endTime":1413.56,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1413.56,"endTime":1414.56,"body":"Everybody's patient."},{"startTime":1414.56,"endTime":1416.56,"body":"Help me with some of the details."},{"startTime":1416.56,"endTime":1417.56,"body":"We are all family."},{"startTime":1417.56,"endTime":1419.56,"body":"I don't know what the owner said in regards to..."},{"startTime":1419.56,"endTime":1421.56,"body":"I'm not doing this because you're still..."},{"startTime":1421.56,"endTime":1424.56,"body":"Like why it happened, but I don't think they know how it happened, right?"},{"startTime":1424.56,"endTime":1426.56,"body":"So essentially, what I..."},{"startTime":1426.56,"endTime":1427.56,"body":"I knew that the right..."},{"startTime":1427.56,"endTime":1429.56,"body":"Or the lameness, how the lameness occurred."},{"startTime":1429.56,"endTime":1434.56,"body":"The right hind lameness was previously like a couple weeks ago."},{"startTime":1434.56,"endTime":1440.56,"body":"What the concern was is that they had moved and something scared the cat on the couch and dropped down, jumped down,"},{"startTime":1440.56,"endTime":1443.56,"body":"and it looked very off-kilter, not normal."},{"startTime":1443.56,"endTime":1445.56,"body":"They were concerned about the left at first."},{"startTime":1445.56,"endTime":1448.56,"body":"But then when the cat presented, that's when it was like,"},{"startTime":1448.56,"endTime":1450.56,"body":"obviously the right..."},{"startTime":1450.56,"endTime":1454.56,"body":"Because the owner felt like, too, that maybe there was more of an overcompensation in the left."},{"startTime":1454.56,"endTime":1456.56,"body":"And then go for it."},{"startTime":1456.56,"endTime":1457.56,"body":"Well, diagnosed it."},{"startTime":1457.56,"endTime":1459.56,"body":"And then Dr. Duckwall."},{"startTime":1459.56,"endTime":1460.56,"body":"Okay, amazingly."},{"startTime":1460.56,"endTime":1461.56,"body":"Diagnosed it."},{"startTime":1461.56,"endTime":1463.56,"body":"It ruptured its cow canyel tendon."},{"startTime":1463.56,"endTime":1466.56,"body":"Which is the Achilles tendon."},{"startTime":1466.56,"endTime":1468.56,"body":"And we don't see that very often in cats."},{"startTime":1468.56,"endTime":1470.56,"body":"We'll see it more often in dogs."},{"startTime":1470.56,"endTime":1472.56,"body":"But I wonder if..."},{"startTime":1472.56,"endTime":1477.56,"body":"If it had previously been slightly lame, like maybe it strained it or it did something"},{"startTime":1477.56,"endTime":1481.56,"body":"as he was overweight and then when he did the sudden movement, just like in a person..."},{"startTime":1481.56,"endTime":1484.56,"body":"He said it hadn't been walking that way for a while."},{"startTime":1484.56,"endTime":1485.56,"body":"For a while."},{"startTime":1485.56,"endTime":1486.56,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1486.56,"endTime":1490.56,"body":"He had jumped off a bed a few weeks prior and then had been kind of gumping on it."},{"startTime":1490.56,"endTime":1495.56,"body":"And then was sitting on the back of the couch, got startled and just tried to jump off, but kind of just fell."},{"startTime":1495.56,"endTime":1496.56,"body":"And landed."},{"startTime":1496.56,"endTime":1498.56,"body":"So it's either they can essentially tear..."},{"startTime":1498.56,"endTime":1503.56,"body":"We don't know the degree of it yet, but they went to the orthopedic surgeon yesterday."},{"startTime":1503.56,"endTime":1504.56,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1504.56,"endTime":1509.56,"body":"And you can see that, but you can tear it from trauma or it's a degenerative process."},{"startTime":1509.56,"endTime":1512.56,"body":"Well, that history is probably trauma for that cat."},{"startTime":1512.56,"endTime":1514.56,"body":"But it's such a distinct..."},{"startTime":1514.56,"endTime":1517.56,"body":"Like literally the cat took two steps and I was like, this is what it is."},{"startTime":1517.56,"endTime":1518.56,"body":"This is what it is, yeah."},{"startTime":1518.56,"endTime":1524.56,"body":"But we did do X-rays just to confirm there was no secondary fracture or, you know,"},{"startTime":1524.56,"endTime":1531.56,"body":"just any other injury and under sedation, I did get a slight positive cranial drawer in the right stifle."},{"startTime":1531.56,"endTime":1536.56,"body":"Which essentially means I got a little extra movement, wiggle room in the right knee."},{"startTime":1536.56,"endTime":1541.56,"body":"And that can sometimes dictate an injury or usually dictates an injury to the ACL."},{"startTime":1541.56,"endTime":1544.56,"body":"So also known as the cranial cruciate ligament."},{"startTime":1544.56,"endTime":1551.56,"body":"So anyway, that was not the major concern and I wasn't as convinced X-rays looked fine with this thin knee."},{"startTime":1551.56,"endTime":1558.56,"body":"But you could see calcification at the most distal aspect of the Achilles tendon."},{"startTime":1558.56,"endTime":1563.56,"body":"So that tells you it's more or less a little bit of a chronic thing because..."},{"startTime":1563.56,"endTime":1565.56,"body":"That was a bit of a simulation."},{"startTime":1565.56,"endTime":1567.56,"body":"Well, and he was 10, right?"},{"startTime":1567.56,"endTime":1568.56,"body":"I think so, yeah."},{"startTime":1568.56,"endTime":1569.56,"body":"I think they say like..."},{"startTime":1569.56,"endTime":1570.56,"body":"But very overweight as well."},{"startTime":1570.56,"endTime":1571.56,"body":"Very overweight, yeah."},{"startTime":1571.56,"endTime":1572.56,"body":"Super painful though."},{"startTime":1572.56,"endTime":1579.56,"body":"I mean, well, on people, I mean, I can't even believe the animals will continue to walk."},{"startTime":1579.56,"endTime":1581.56,"body":"Which I mean, I guess people can't too."},{"startTime":1581.56,"endTime":1582.56,"body":"Like if you look at..."},{"startTime":1582.56,"endTime":1584.56,"body":"Or on the ankle, like it's insane."},{"startTime":1584.56,"endTime":1585.56,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1585.56,"endTime":1593.56,"body":"Then you know, it's just like Google a cat with a torn Achilles or common calcane tendon."},{"startTime":1659.7,"endTime":1660.7,"body":"And they're just..."},{"startTime":1660.7,"endTime":1662.7,"body":"They're walking flat on their ankle."},{"startTime":1662.7,"endTime":1663.7,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1663.7,"endTime":1668.7,"body":"So the orthopedic surgeon said that you could obviously primary repair."},{"startTime":1668.7,"endTime":1669.7,"body":"Oh, we have the nose back."},{"startTime":1669.7,"endTime":1670.7,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":1670.7,"endTime":1671.7,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1671.7,"endTime":1673.7,"body":"So primary repair of the Achilles tendon."},{"startTime":1673.7,"endTime":1674.7,"body":"So you could..."},{"startTime":1674.7,"endTime":1678.7,"body":"It's a certain kind of suture technique that you use in order to ward off tension, right?"},{"startTime":1678.7,"endTime":1684.7,"body":"Because every time that cat or dog steps on its toes, then you're putting tension on that Achilles tendon."},{"startTime":1684.7,"endTime":1691.7,"body":"So there's primary repair, orthodecis, amputation, which I was a little surprised about because..."},{"startTime":1691.7,"endTime":1692.7,"body":"Oh, that is very interesting."},{"startTime":1692.7,"endTime":1699.7,"body":"So Fouls was talking yesterday like, okay, well, maybe depending on what conversation occurred in the exam room, maybe..."},{"startTime":1699.7,"endTime":1700.7,"body":"That's what..."},{"startTime":1700.7,"endTime":1704.7,"body":"Maybe he had to talk about it because the owners were asking specifically about it or something."},{"startTime":1704.7,"endTime":1705.7,"body":"There's sort of the cat's weight."},{"startTime":1705.7,"endTime":1706.7,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1706.7,"endTime":1708.7,"body":"And then..."},{"startTime":1708.7,"endTime":1710.7,"body":"I feel like there was..."},{"startTime":1710.7,"endTime":1711.7,"body":"So orthodecis primary repair."},{"startTime":1711.7,"endTime":1712.7,"body":"There's a brace is what..."},{"startTime":1712.7,"endTime":1713.7,"body":"Oh, I looked it up."},{"startTime":1713.7,"endTime":1714.7,"body":"You can wrap it."},{"startTime":1714.7,"endTime":1718.7,"body":"And then soft tissue, just like put them in a brace or a soft tissue patiband..."},{"startTime":1718.7,"endTime":1724.7,"body":"You know, something to provide support again to get the tendon from being like all completely stretched out."},{"startTime":1724.7,"endTime":1726.7,"body":"I mean, the prognosis is pretty good with..."},{"startTime":1726.7,"endTime":1727.7,"body":"I mean, it is good with surgery."},{"startTime":1727.7,"endTime":1728.7,"body":"Yes, it's good with surgery."},{"startTime":1728.7,"endTime":1731.7,"body":"But even with the brace, it's not bad from my research, at least."},{"startTime":1731.7,"endTime":1737.7,"body":"So I think when Fouls was talking to them yesterday, they still hadn't decided what they were going to do."},{"startTime":1737.7,"endTime":1738.7,"body":"So..."},{"startTime":1738.7,"endTime":1739.7,"body":"Yeah, we tried to..."},{"startTime":1739.7,"endTime":1740.7,"body":"We were able..."},{"startTime":1740.7,"endTime":1741.7,"body":"Courtney Caldon got them in right away."},{"startTime":1741.7,"endTime":1742.7,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1742.7,"endTime":1744.7,"body":"It has to be pretty quick surgery if you want to do it."},{"startTime":1744.7,"endTime":1745.7,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":1745.7,"endTime":1746.7,"body":"So..."},{"startTime":1746.7,"endTime":1747.7,"body":"Yup."},{"startTime":1747.7,"endTime":1748.7,"body":"So a very cool case."},{"startTime":1748.7,"endTime":1749.7,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1749.7,"endTime":1750.7,"body":"I had one of a dog, but it..."},{"startTime":1750.7,"endTime":1751.7,"body":"It slid over to the side."},{"startTime":1751.7,"endTime":1752.7,"body":"It really hadn't ruptured."},{"startTime":1752.7,"endTime":1753.7,"body":"It kind of just..."},{"startTime":1753.7,"endTime":1755.7,"body":"We just had one of a dog, but it was..."},{"startTime":1755.7,"endTime":1756.7,"body":"Frontlin."},{"startTime":1756.7,"endTime":1757.7,"body":"So it was..."},{"startTime":1757.7,"endTime":1758.7,"body":"What is that?"},{"startTime":1758.7,"endTime":1759.7,"body":"It's not..."},{"startTime":1759.7,"endTime":1761.7,"body":"It's not obviously a Achilles."},{"startTime":1761.7,"endTime":1762.7,"body":"Or was it the back leg?"},{"startTime":1762.7,"endTime":1763.7,"body":"I think it was the back leg."},{"startTime":1763.7,"endTime":1764.7,"body":"I don't know."},{"startTime":1764.7,"endTime":1765.7,"body":"I don't know."},{"startTime":1765.7,"endTime":1766.7,"body":"It was the same thing."},{"startTime":1766.7,"endTime":1767.7,"body":"Anyway."},{"startTime":1767.7,"endTime":1770.7,"body":"It was a similar concept, but we had it on a dog, so..."},{"startTime":1770.7,"endTime":1771.7,"body":"I'm not sure."},{"startTime":1771.7,"endTime":1773.7,"body":"That was probably more degenerative though."},{"startTime":1773.7,"endTime":1774.7,"body":"Because it was..."},{"startTime":1774.7,"endTime":1775.7,"body":"Yeah, I'm a term."},{"startTime":1775.7,"endTime":1776.7,"body":"Very, very cool case."},{"startTime":1776.7,"endTime":1777.7,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1777.7,"endTime":1778.7,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1778.7,"endTime":1779.7,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1779.7,"endTime":1781.7,"body":"I've got a cat and I got a dog, which one do you want?"},{"startTime":1781.7,"endTime":1782.7,"body":"Cat."},{"startTime":1782.7,"endTime":1783.7,"body":"What's cat theme?"},{"startTime":1783.7,"endTime":1784.7,"body":"And I was so cat."},{"startTime":1784.7,"endTime":1785.7,"body":"So cat."},{"startTime":1785.7,"endTime":1786.7,"body":"Go for it."},{"startTime":1786.7,"endTime":1787.7,"body":"So we have a cat named Penny."},{"startTime":1787.7,"endTime":1788.7,"body":"Oh."},{"startTime":1788.7,"endTime":1789.7,"body":"We love Penny."},{"startTime":1789.7,"endTime":1790.7,"body":"We love these owners."},{"startTime":1790.7,"endTime":1792.9,"body":"Oh, they're just amazing."},{"startTime":1792.9,"endTime":1795.46,"body":"And poor thing came in because she was just ADR."},{"startTime":1795.46,"endTime":1798.9,"body":"She wasn't eating as great, just not acting like herself."},{"startTime":1798.9,"endTime":1800.8200000000002,"body":"Owners are very intume to her."},{"startTime":1800.8200000000002,"endTime":1809.0200000000002,"body":"And on exam, I noticed right away she was very uncomfortable with palpation of her kidneys."},{"startTime":1809.0200000000002,"endTime":1810.0200000000002,"body":"So she just..."},{"startTime":1810.0200000000002,"endTime":1811.0200000000002,"body":"She's not aggressive."},{"startTime":1811.0200000000002,"endTime":1814.7800000000002,"body":"She's so sweet, but she kind of just turned away intense when I physically touched that"},{"startTime":1814.7800000000002,"endTime":1815.7800000000002,"body":"area."},{"startTime":1815.7800000000002,"endTime":1820.4,"body":"So we started with just X-rays and you could see right away that there were two different"},{"startTime":1820.4,"endTime":1822.38,"body":"sized kidneys on X-ray."},{"startTime":1822.38,"endTime":1827.3400000000001,"body":"The other thing that I could see is essentially stones in the area of the kidneys."},{"startTime":1827.3400000000001,"endTime":1829.94,"body":"So or the middle of the 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it."},{"startTime":2090.82,"endTime":2092.14,"body":"Dive right into it."},{"startTime":2092.14,"endTime":2094.66,"body":"Today's discussion centers around."},{"startTime":2094.66,"endTime":2098.82,"body":"Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't,"},{"startTime":2098.82,"endTime":2101.62,"body":"they're all too old to do."},{"startTime":2101.62,"endTime":2107.58,"body":"The mystery illness, what everyone is calling the mystery illness because, all of us no"},{"startTime":2107.58,"endTime":2110.54,"body":"longer, I think it's a mystery because it's here all the time."},{"startTime":2110.54,"endTime":2111.54,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2111.54,"endTime":2112.54,"body":"Would you like more, Canada dress?"},{"startTime":2112.54,"endTime":2115.74,"body":"No, I'm still finishing my, it is almost empty but."},{"startTime":2115.74,"endTime":2117.74,"body":"Anyone want to be short?"},{"startTime":2117.74,"endTime":2119.54,"body":"Just open your coffee."},{"startTime":2119.54,"endTime":2121.02,"body":"Save it for lunch."},{"startTime":2121.02,"endTime":2122.02,"body":"So guys."},{"startTime":2122.02,"endTime":2123.02,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2123.02,"endTime":2126.22,"body":"Let's just unpack the mystery illness."},{"startTime":2126.22,"endTime":2127.22,"body":"We still know."},{"startTime":2127.22,"endTime":2129.06,"body":"Let's start by saying we don't know what it is."},{"startTime":2129.06,"endTime":2132.9,"body":"It is a mystery because we don't have an, it's not a name for it or, yeah, not a name for"},{"startTime":2132.9,"endTime":2133.9,"body":"it."},{"startTime":2133.9,"endTime":2134.9,"body":"No."},{"startTime":2134.9,"endTime":2142.42,"body":"Um, I think that like in true fashion, the news scared everyone which, that's what the"},{"startTime":2142.42,"endTime":2145.94,"body":"news does because that's what sells."},{"startTime":2145.94,"endTime":2149.74,"body":"So um, and if you've been watching our podcast, 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now?"},{"startTime":2579.1,"endTime":2580.1,"body":"A slightly less amount?"},{"startTime":2580.1,"endTime":2581.1,"body":"I feel like it's hidden mess."},{"startTime":2581.1,"endTime":2582.1,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2582.1,"endTime":2583.1,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":2583.1,"endTime":2584.1,"body":"Doesn't it seem like some weeks it's like there's another one."},{"startTime":2584.1,"endTime":2585.1,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2585.1,"endTime":2586.1,"body":"There's another one."},{"startTime":2586.1,"endTime":2587.1,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2587.1,"endTime":2588.1,"body":"And in some weeks it's like we didn't see a coffee."},{"startTime":2588.1,"endTime":2589.1,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2589.1,"endTime":2590.1,"body":"Pretty good."},{"startTime":2590.1,"endTime":2591.1,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":2591.1,"endTime":2592.1,"body":"I'll be interested to see after the holiday."},{"startTime":2592.1,"endTime":2593.1,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2593.1,"endTime":2594.7799999999997,"body":"Because I know people just have no choice."},{"startTime":2594.7799999999997,"endTime":2597.7,"body":"I have to board their dog and it's kind of one of those things where."},{"startTime":2597.7,"endTime":2598.7,"body":"Mm-hmm."},{"startTime":2598.7,"endTime":2599.7,"body":"Unfortunately it is what it is."},{"startTime":2599.7,"endTime":2600.7,"body":"Mm-hmm."},{"startTime":2600.7,"endTime":2602.7,"body":"I'm glad that we don't have a boarding facility."},{"startTime":2602.7,"endTime":2605.5,"body":"Could you imagine trying to run a, oh my goodness."},{"startTime":2605.5,"endTime":2610.5,"body":"Like 100 plus dog boarding facility and, oh my gosh, wow."},{"startTime":2610.5,"endTime":2611.5,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2611.5,"endTime":2615.7799999999997,"body":"My best friend is the head trainer at one of the training facilities around here."},{"startTime":2615.7799999999997,"endTime":2617.9,"body":"And she, yeah, they have coughing dog left and right."},{"startTime":2617.9,"endTime":2618.9,"body":"Ah, just."},{"startTime":2618.9,"endTime":2619.9,"body":"I mean, it's not there."},{"startTime":2619.9,"endTime":2620.9,"body":"It's not there."},{"startTime":2620.9,"endTime":2624.3399999999997,"body":"It's just, you know, people always want to blame facilities."},{"startTime":2624.3399999999997,"endTime":2625.3399999999997,"body":"It's really not their fault."},{"startTime":2625.3399999999997,"endTime":2627.3799999999997,"body":"Like some of these dogs are asymptomatic."},{"startTime":2627.3799999999997,"endTime":2631.58,"body":"They come in and then they're exposing before they're coughing."},{"startTime":2631.58,"endTime":2633.54,"body":"It's a, it's like you're chasing your tail."},{"startTime":2633.54,"endTime":2635.54,"body":"You know what I mean to try and stay in front of it."},{"startTime":2635.54,"endTime":2636.54,"body":"Yep."},{"startTime":2636.54,"endTime":2638.8599999999997,"body":"And so, um, it's just like a human respiratory illness, right?"},{"startTime":2638.8599999999997,"endTime":2639.8599999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2639.8599999999997,"endTime":2641.98,"body":"You don't know if you're carrying it because you were exposed a couple days ago, then you"},{"startTime":2641.98,"endTime":2644.8199999999997,"body":"get sick a couple days later, like I was just around you yesterday."},{"startTime":2644.8199999999997,"endTime":2645.8199999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2645.8199999999997,"endTime":2646.8199999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2646.8199999999997,"endTime":2651.94,"body":"So it's not the perfect world, but just have grace with people and caregivers and veterinary"},{"startTime":2651.94,"endTime":2654.22,"body":"staff because it is what it is."},{"startTime":2654.22,"endTime":2655.22,"body":"It's frustrating, but it is."},{"startTime":2655.22,"endTime":2657.22,"body":"And it'll all work itself out."},{"startTime":2657.22,"endTime":2658.22,"body":"Like it always does."},{"startTime":2658.22,"endTime":2659.22,"body":"Yep."},{"startTime":2659.22,"endTime":2660.22,"body":"Medicine."},{"startTime":2660.22,"endTime":2661.22,"body":"It always changes."},{"startTime":2661.22,"endTime":2662.22,"body":"That's right."},{"startTime":2662.22,"endTime":2663.22,"body":"That's right."},{"startTime":2663.22,"endTime":2664.22,"body":"Exactly."},{"startTime":2664.22,"endTime":2665.22,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2665.22,"endTime":2666.22,"body":"Hitoki."},{"startTime":2666.22,"endTime":2669.22,"body":"Thank you so much for tuning into another episode of the veterinary round table."},{"startTime":2669.22,"endTime":2672.8199999999997,"body":"Remember, send in those questions and be sure to follow us on all social media platforms at"},{"startTime":2672.8199999999997,"endTime":2674.5,"body":"AllStar veterinary 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