{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":0.0,"endTime":2.58,"body":"(upbeat music)"},{"startTime":2.58,"endTime":6.6,"body":"Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode"},{"startTime":6.6,"endTime":7.6,"body":"of the Veterinary Roundtable,"},{"startTime":7.6,"endTime":9.6,"body":"the podcast where we answer your veterinary related questions"},{"startTime":9.6,"endTime":10.96,"body":"while having some fun along the way."},{"startTime":10.96,"endTime":12.0,"body":"If you enjoyed today's episode,"},{"startTime":12.0,"endTime":14.84,"body":"be sure to leave us a review on your podcast provider of choice"},{"startTime":14.84,"endTime":16.32,"body":"and if you have any feedback to offer"},{"startTime":16.32,"endTime":18.96,"body":"to improve the veterinary roundtable, let us know."},{"startTime":18.96,"endTime":23.4,"body":"We are really hammering home."},{"startTime":23.4,"endTime":24.24,"body":"- I think you can tell."},{"startTime":24.24,"endTime":25.08,"body":"- Wait for it."},{"startTime":25.08,"endTime":26.92,"body":"I have a magic bag baby."},{"startTime":26.92,"endTime":28.24,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":28.24,"endTime":29.08,"body":"- I bet it is a magic bag."},{"startTime":29.08,"endTime":29.92,"body":"- That's how you're doing."},{"startTime":29.92,"endTime":30.74,"body":"- No one look."},{"startTime":30.74,"endTime":32.44,"body":"You can't look inside the magic bag."},{"startTime":32.44,"endTime":33.28,"body":"- It's an interesting thing."},{"startTime":33.28,"endTime":34.12,"body":"- I gotta find it."},{"startTime":34.12,"endTime":35.84,"body":"- Well the back's came, most I can't see it anyway."},{"startTime":35.84,"endTime":37.84,"body":"- I brought Thor's hammer."},{"startTime":37.84,"endTime":38.76,"body":"- Oh my gosh."},{"startTime":38.76,"endTime":39.84,"body":"- I thought it was thinking,"},{"startTime":39.84,"endTime":40.84,"body":"\"I didn't go here before you see it.\""},{"startTime":40.84,"endTime":42.84,"body":"- I thought it 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Oh God."},{"startTime":81.8,"endTime":82.96,"body":"- Is it a plastic?"},{"startTime":82.96,"endTime":83.8,"body":"- Is it a lemur cream?"},{"startTime":83.8,"endTime":84.8,"body":"- Wow."},{"startTime":84.8,"endTime":85.88,"body":"- Is he going?"},{"startTime":85.88,"endTime":86.72,"body":"- No, he doesn't have any."},{"startTime":86.72,"endTime":87.56,"body":"- That would be great."},{"startTime":87.56,"endTime":90.16,"body":"- Sometimes there is no marble super-year-olds."},{"startTime":90.16,"endTime":91.6,"body":"- Oh, okay."},{"startTime":91.6,"endTime":93.32,"body":"All right, so here we're home, those reviews,"},{"startTime":93.32,"endTime":94.84,"body":"duck ball, tell us where we're at"},{"startTime":94.84,"endTime":96.6,"body":"in terms of number of reviews."},{"startTime":96.6,"endTime":99.8,"body":"- We didn't gain any on Apple from last time."},{"startTime":99.8,"endTime":100.64,"body":"- What the heck?"},{"startTime":100.64,"endTime":101.64,"body":"- This is what I 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bit."},{"startTime":126.04,"endTime":128.68,"body":"- No, but before that, let's all just throw marshmallows out"},{"startTime":128.68,"endTime":130.36,"body":"or so they stand and then put her on the ground."},{"startTime":130.36,"endTime":131.2,"body":"- Okay."},{"startTime":131.2,"endTime":133.8,"body":"- What if we just like cause a dog fight in front of her?"},{"startTime":133.8,"endTime":134.64,"body":"- Okay, now listen."},{"startTime":134.64,"endTime":135.8,"body":"- We'll take dogs to our food aggressive."},{"startTime":135.8,"endTime":139.4,"body":"- Yeah, they're gonna be friendly dogs like Moose and Quill"},{"startTime":139.4,"endTime":140.24,"body":"and-"},{"startTime":140.24,"endTime":141.08,"body":"- Can I cover my face?"},{"startTime":141.08,"endTime":141.92,"body":"- Miles and Whee."},{"startTime":141.92,"endTime":142.92,"body":"- Miles and Winnie and-"},{"startTime":142.92,"endTime":144.08,"body":"- Just so we're gonna get along, right?"},{"startTime":144.08,"endTime":144.92,"body":"- They have to face one."},{"startTime":144.92,"endTime":145.84,"body":"- Oh, no, look at you, a helmet."},{"startTime":145.84,"endTime":146.68,"body":"- We can get you a helmet."},{"startTime":146.68,"endTime":147.52,"body":"- That's so great."},{"startTime":147.52,"endTime":150.12,"body":"- Okay, so that's one of the ways to cover your peanut butter."},{"startTime":150.12,"endTime":150.96,"body":"- For what?"},{"startTime":150.96,"endTime":151.84,"body":"- One of them can do, so we gotta get you a hard,"},{"startTime":151.84,"endTime":152.84,"body":"- We gotta get you a hard,"},{"startTime":152.84,"endTime":154.32,"body":"- I have the milk mile, oh,"},{"startTime":154.32,"endTime":156.48,"body":"- 100, oh, then we have the milk mile."},{"startTime":156.48,"endTime":158.92,"body":"We have now devin covered in peanut butter."},{"startTime":158.92,"endTime":160.52,"body":"- And eating on the stupid food."},{"startTime":160.52,"endTime":161.6,"body":"- And yeah, eating the dog food."},{"startTime":161.6,"endTime":163.24,"body":"- I really like the dog food."},{"startTime":163.24,"endTime":164.88,"body":"Peanut butter and dog food."},{"startTime":164.88,"endTime":165.72,"body":"- No."},{"startTime":165.72,"endTime":166.88,"body":"- No, one of them."},{"startTime":166.88,"endTime":168.04,"body":"- It's a lot."},{"startTime":168.04,"endTime":168.88,"body":"- All on your body."},{"startTime":168.88,"endTime":170.56,"body":"(laughs)"},{"startTime":170.56,"endTime":173.0,"body":"- But hey, we are at the 40's Spotify,"},{"startTime":173.0,"endTime":174.24,"body":"where it 133,"},{"startTime":174.24,"endTime":175.8,"body":"- 40 was two weeks ago, people,"},{"startTime":175.8,"endTime":178.48,"body":"backwards 133 on Spotify, 40 on Apple."},{"startTime":178.48,"endTime":179.6,"body":"- Okay, yep."},{"startTime":179.6,"endTime":180.76,"body":"- I don't know what to go for."},{"startTime":180.76,"endTime":183.48,"body":"- 100, I think it's a 100 on Apple."},{"startTime":183.48,"endTime":184.32,"body":"- We don't, I don't think we really,"},{"startTime":184.32,"endTime":185.32,"body":"- 'cause I mean, I'm not gonna spot a spot."},{"startTime":185.32,"endTime":187.04,"body":"- I know we have 60 followers,"},{"startTime":187.04,"endTime":188.92,"body":"I know we can get 60 comments."},{"startTime":188.92,"endTime":189.76,"body":"- Yeah, we didn't get any."},{"startTime":189.76,"endTime":190.92,"body":"- And we didn't get any."},{"startTime":190.92,"endTime":191.92,"body":"- Zero out of it."},{"startTime":191.92,"endTime":192.76,"body":"- We gotta be better."},{"startTime":192.76,"endTime":193.6,"body":"- Well, devin had a good point."},{"startTime":193.6,"endTime":194.44,"body":"Maybe they love her too much"},{"startTime":194.44,"endTime":195.6,"body":"and they don't wanna see her suffer."},{"startTime":195.6,"endTime":196.44,"body":"- Ooh, that's cool."},{"startTime":196.44,"endTime":197.28,"body":"- Because we clearly,"},{"startTime":197.28,"endTime":198.76,"body":"these punishments are not nice."},{"startTime":198.76,"endTime":199.76,"body":"- Okay, you can point."},{"startTime":199.76,"endTime":201.84,"body":"- Devins, bam, bam, come into our rescue."},{"startTime":201.84,"endTime":203.32,"body":"- That's true, exactly, exactly."},{"startTime":203.32,"endTime":205.88,"body":"- It's like the Switties, but for Devin."},{"startTime":205.88,"endTime":207.04,"body":"- I don't know what to call it."},{"startTime":207.04,"endTime":207.88,"body":"- What do you call it?"},{"startTime":207.88,"endTime":208.72,"body":"- The Devies."},{"startTime":208.72,"endTime":209.56,"body":"- The Devies."},{"startTime":209.56,"endTime":210.56,"body":"- Are the fortune cookies."},{"startTime":210.56,"endTime":211.4,"body":"- The fortune cookies."},{"startTime":211.4,"endTime":212.4,"body":"- The fortune cookies."},{"startTime":212.4,"endTime":213.24,"body":"- Oh, fortune cookies."},{"startTime":213.24,"endTime":215.6,"body":"- I like that, fortune cookies."},{"startTime":215.6,"endTime":216.44,"body":"- It's very nice."},{"startTime":216.44,"endTime":220.2,"body":"- Well, we'll see if people show up."},{"startTime":220.2,"endTime":221.04,"body":"Let's see if they do."},{"startTime":221.04,"endTime":221.88,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":221.88,"endTime":223.92,"body":"- All right."},{"startTime":223.92,"endTime":226.32,"body":"Introduce yourself, ladies."},{"startTime":226.32,"endTime":229.28,"body":"- I'm Courtney."},{"startTime":229.28,"endTime":230.8,"body":"- I am a technician."},{"startTime":230.8,"endTime":234.76,"body":"And that's how I got."},{"startTime":234.76,"endTime":237.12,"body":"- We got an R-T-S-Boaring."},{"startTime":237.12,"endTime":238.32,"body":"- Warrr, wrarrr, wrarrr."},{"startTime":238.32,"endTime":239.52,"body":"- Hit the fail button."},{"startTime":239.52,"endTime":240.36,"body":"- I don't have it."},{"startTime":240.36,"endTime":241.32,"body":"- I don't have it."},{"startTime":241.32,"endTime":242.56,"body":"- You took away the fail button."},{"startTime":242.56,"endTime":244.56,"body":"- Why'd you take it away?"},{"startTime":244.56,"endTime":245.56,"body":"I always use it."},{"startTime":245.56,"endTime":246.4,"body":"- He keeps us."},{"startTime":246.4,"endTime":248.16,"body":"- He's rough."},{"startTime":248.16,"endTime":249.0,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":249.0,"endTime":251.16,"body":"- Okay."},{"startTime":251.16,"endTime":252.0,"body":"- So sad."},{"startTime":252.0,"endTime":252.84,"body":"- Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark."},{"startTime":252.84,"endTime":253.68,"body":"- That's the fail."},{"startTime":253.68,"endTime":254.52,"body":"- There we go."},{"startTime":254.52,"endTime":255.36,"body":"- Okay, good job, Courtney."},{"startTime":255.36,"endTime":256.76,"body":"- He's gonna dig it out of the box."},{"startTime":256.76,"endTime":258.16,"body":"- Why are you gonna say?"},{"startTime":258.16,"endTime":260.16,"body":"- I don't know anything, literally anything."},{"startTime":260.16,"endTime":261.4,"body":"- I braided my hair today."},{"startTime":261.4,"endTime":262.24,"body":"- Wow, it looks beautiful."},{"startTime":262.24,"endTime":263.24,"body":"- It looks like it's a treat to us."},{"startTime":263.24,"endTime":264.08,"body":"- There you go."},{"startTime":264.08,"endTime":265.08,"body":"- People don't know if they're not watching."},{"startTime":265.08,"endTime":266.64,"body":"- Oh, I did my own nails at home."},{"startTime":266.64,"endTime":268.44,"body":"I got a gel kit and I did my own nails."},{"startTime":268.44,"endTime":269.28,"body":"- Did it work?"},{"startTime":269.28,"endTime":270.28,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":270.28,"endTime":271.12,"body":"- Nice."},{"startTime":271.12,"endTime":271.96,"body":"- That's exciting."},{"startTime":271.96,"endTime":272.8,"body":"That will save you money."},{"startTime":272.8,"endTime":273.64,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":273.64,"endTime":274.48,"body":"- That's cool."},{"startTime":274.48,"endTime":275.48,"body":"- The whole thing was like 30 bucks"},{"startTime":275.48,"endTime":277.28,"body":"and a normal gel set is like 60."},{"startTime":277.28,"endTime":278.28,"body":"- And it's long."},{"startTime":278.28,"endTime":279.28,"body":"- No, it looked good."},{"startTime":279.28,"endTime":280.28,"body":"Okay, there's my fun thing."},{"startTime":280.28,"endTime":281.12,"body":"- It looked great."},{"startTime":281.12,"endTime":281.96,"body":"- Thanks."},{"startTime":281.96,"endTime":282.8,"body":"- For taking 30 minutes."},{"startTime":282.8,"endTime":283.8,"body":"- Tinks."},{"startTime":283.8,"endTime":284.8,"body":"- And they match your sweatshirt."},{"startTime":284.8,"endTime":288.52,"body":"- I'm Devon Fortune and I'm a assistant tech"},{"startTime":288.52,"endTime":289.6,"body":"in training."},{"startTime":289.6,"endTime":290.44,"body":"- Nice."},{"startTime":290.44,"endTime":291.28,"body":"- Yes."},{"startTime":291.28,"endTime":293.36,"body":"- Oh, update everybody on your pharmacy."},{"startTime":293.36,"endTime":294.2,"body":"- Oh, yes."},{"startTime":294.2,"endTime":295.44,"body":"- It was my--"},{"startTime":295.44,"endTime":296.28,"body":"- What?"},{"startTime":296.28,"endTime":297.12,"body":"- It was what?"},{"startTime":297.12,"endTime":298.12,"body":"- Wasn't it just form?"},{"startTime":298.12,"endTime":298.96,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":298.96,"endTime":300.2,"body":"- Not pharmacy, form."},{"startTime":300.2,"endTime":301.2,"body":"(laughs)"},{"startTime":301.2,"endTime":302.8,"body":"- I don't know, is anybody here?"},{"startTime":302.8,"endTime":303.96,"body":"- They can't hear that on here."},{"startTime":303.96,"endTime":304.96,"body":"- That must be the ghost."},{"startTime":304.96,"endTime":306.04,"body":"- There is something yelling."},{"startTime":306.04,"endTime":306.88,"body":"- Do it."},{"startTime":306.88,"endTime":308.52,"body":"- Oh!"},{"startTime":308.52,"endTime":309.68,"body":"Get the tissues."},{"startTime":309.68,"endTime":310.84,"body":"(laughs)"},{"startTime":310.84,"endTime":312.28,"body":"- No, you listeners."},{"startTime":312.28,"endTime":314.4,"body":"If you didn't watch the last one, watch it."},{"startTime":314.4,"endTime":315.4,"body":"- No, it's personal."},{"startTime":315.4,"endTime":316.4,"body":"- It's an update."},{"startTime":316.4,"endTime":321.4,"body":"Devon got really bothered by the fact that there have been cat ghosts."},{"startTime":321.4,"endTime":322.4,"body":"- There's a lot of tissues."},{"startTime":322.4,"endTime":323.4,"body":"- In this hospital."},{"startTime":323.4,"endTime":325.4,"body":"And so, you can say emotional."},{"startTime":325.4,"endTime":326.4,"body":"- Dr. King."},{"startTime":326.4,"endTime":327.4,"body":"- Dr. King."},{"startTime":327.4,"endTime":328.4,"body":"- Yeah, she got emotional."},{"startTime":328.4,"endTime":329.4,"body":"She cried."},{"startTime":329.4,"endTime":333.4,"body":"I'm just playing a cat meowing in the background and gave her tissues."},{"startTime":333.4,"endTime":334.4,"body":"That is actually fantastic."},{"startTime":334.4,"endTime":336.4,"body":"- It looked, is this supposed to be a cat?"},{"startTime":336.4,"endTime":337.4,"body":"'Cause it looks like a wild animal."},{"startTime":337.4,"endTime":339.4,"body":"- It looks like an expensive cat."},{"startTime":339.4,"endTime":340.4,"body":"- You're just a protector ear."},{"startTime":340.4,"endTime":341.4,"body":"So you don't have--"},{"startTime":341.4,"endTime":342.4,"body":"- Oh my gosh."},{"startTime":342.4,"endTime":343.4,"body":"Why do you have these?"},{"startTime":343.4,"endTime":344.4,"body":"- These are for you."},{"startTime":344.4,"endTime":345.4,"body":"- Suns."},{"startTime":345.4,"endTime":346.4,"body":"- I know."},{"startTime":346.4,"endTime":349.4,"body":"I just had to, I had to buy those 'cause clearly I don't have--"},{"startTime":349.4,"endTime":350.4,"body":"- That is fantastic."},{"startTime":350.4,"endTime":351.4,"body":"- There you go."},{"startTime":351.4,"endTime":352.4,"body":"Now you don't have to worry about hearing those scary sounds."},{"startTime":352.4,"endTime":353.4,"body":"- What?"},{"startTime":353.4,"endTime":354.4,"body":"(laughs)"},{"startTime":354.4,"endTime":355.4,"body":"- Oh, yes."},{"startTime":355.4,"endTime":357.4,"body":"My pharmacy final."},{"startTime":357.4,"endTime":362.4,"body":"I got my grade back, my proctored final, and I got a 99."},{"startTime":362.4,"endTime":364.4,"body":"- So you just missed the one that you told us?"},{"startTime":364.4,"endTime":367.88,"body":"- I know, well I thought, I knew that I got one wrong and then I got one vitamin wrong,"},{"startTime":367.88,"endTime":369.88,"body":"but they won't let me see what I, oh."},{"startTime":369.88,"endTime":373.4,"body":"Like got marked down on, so I don't really know when I got wrong."},{"startTime":373.4,"endTime":374.4,"body":"But I'm happy."},{"startTime":374.4,"endTime":375.4,"body":"- But I mean, I'm not that pretty cool."},{"startTime":375.4,"endTime":376.4,"body":"- But it's pretty good."},{"startTime":376.4,"endTime":377.4,"body":"- But it's pretty good."},{"startTime":377.4,"endTime":379.4,"body":"- It's always annoying when you're like when you're this one."},{"startTime":379.4,"endTime":380.4,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":380.4,"endTime":381.4,"body":"- Good job, pharmacy."},{"startTime":381.4,"endTime":382.4,"body":"- Thanks."},{"startTime":382.4,"endTime":386.88,"body":"- I'm Ashland Duckwell, I'm a veterinarian."},{"startTime":386.88,"endTime":390.4,"body":"I'm just trying to make it through the day without coughing and it's not working."},{"startTime":390.4,"endTime":391.4,"body":"- I mean, you're doing pretty good."},{"startTime":391.4,"endTime":392.4,"body":"- You're doing great so far."},{"startTime":392.4,"endTime":393.4,"body":"- Okay, thanks."},{"startTime":393.4,"endTime":395.4,"body":"- I've got things for you too."},{"startTime":395.4,"endTime":397.4,"body":"- Just got a cold, residual cold."},{"startTime":397.4,"endTime":398.4,"body":"- Yes."},{"startTime":398.4,"endTime":399.4,"body":"- I'm really should take some."},{"startTime":399.4,"endTime":400.4,"body":"- I'm being one-up to all matchups."},{"startTime":400.4,"endTime":401.4,"body":"- I'm just a big fan."},{"startTime":401.4,"endTime":402.4,"body":"- Yes."},{"startTime":402.4,"endTime":403.4,"body":"- Maybe a fall."},{"startTime":403.4,"endTime":404.4,"body":"- Maybe a fall."},{"startTime":404.4,"endTime":405.4,"body":"- I'm not a magic-bide privileges refot."},{"startTime":405.4,"endTime":406.4,"body":"- Immune defense."},{"startTime":406.4,"endTime":407.4,"body":"- And by me."},{"startTime":407.4,"endTime":408.4,"body":"- And here's your other."},{"startTime":408.4,"endTime":410.4,"body":"- Hey, you know I love surprise gifts."},{"startTime":410.4,"endTime":411.4,"body":"- See, go, see."},{"startTime":411.4,"endTime":412.4,"body":"- Look at that."},{"startTime":412.4,"endTime":413.4,"body":"- Those are the best kind of gifts."},{"startTime":413.4,"endTime":416.4,"body":"- Okay, then you just got some cough drops, which is appropriate for why I said it was."},{"startTime":416.4,"endTime":417.4,"body":"- Yep."},{"startTime":417.4,"endTime":418.4,"body":"Excellent."},{"startTime":418.4,"endTime":419.4,"body":"- We're doing it."},{"startTime":419.4,"endTime":420.4,"body":"I'm here."},{"startTime":420.4,"endTime":421.4,"body":"- Okay, your cough matters."},{"startTime":421.4,"endTime":422.4,"body":"- It's worth the seat."},{"startTime":422.4,"endTime":423.4,"body":"- I get ear loss and a ghost."},{"startTime":423.4,"endTime":424.4,"body":"Duckwell gets cough drops."},{"startTime":424.4,"endTime":425.4,"body":"I can't wait to see."},{"startTime":425.4,"endTime":426.4,"body":"- It's not time for mine yet."},{"startTime":426.4,"endTime":427.4,"body":"- No, I just can't wait."},{"startTime":427.4,"endTime":428.4,"body":"- I just can't wait to see."},{"startTime":428.4,"endTime":434.4,"body":"- I'm Emily King, Dark Dragon Waking, and I was in charge of the magic bag today."},{"startTime":434.4,"endTime":435.4,"body":"- Yep."},{"startTime":435.4,"endTime":437.4,"body":"- And you're doing phenomenal so far."},{"startTime":437.4,"endTime":438.4,"body":"- She is."},{"startTime":438.4,"endTime":439.4,"body":"- Okay, awesome, sauce."},{"startTime":439.4,"endTime":440.4,"body":"She's doing amazing."},{"startTime":440.4,"endTime":442.4,"body":"- Is that supposed to be me now?"},{"startTime":442.4,"endTime":443.4,"body":"- Yeah, I think 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No."},{"startTime":494.4,"endTime":495.4,"body":"- No, I like that one."},{"startTime":495.4,"endTime":496.4,"body":"- Hand hug."},{"startTime":496.4,"endTime":497.4,"body":"- No, it has to be opposite hand."},{"startTime":497.4,"endTime":498.4,"body":"- Oh."},{"startTime":498.4,"endTime":499.4,"body":"- Oh my god."},{"startTime":499.4,"endTime":500.4,"body":"- Oh, you like how big?"},{"startTime":500.4,"endTime":501.4,"body":"- Oh my gosh."},{"startTime":501.4,"endTime":503.4,"body":"Those are really dorky."},{"startTime":503.4,"endTime":505.4,"body":"Okay, nobody should do those."},{"startTime":505.4,"endTime":506.4,"body":"- Those watching."},{"startTime":506.4,"endTime":507.4,"body":"- Don't ever do those."},{"startTime":507.4,"endTime":508.4,"body":"- Am I talking loud?"},{"startTime":508.4,"endTime":509.4,"body":"- Yes."},{"startTime":509.4,"endTime":511.4,"body":"Okay, wait, where did you come up with those?"},{"startTime":511.4,"endTime":512.4,"body":"- 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could talk, which would be the rudest, the giraffe, because it's always looking"},{"startTime":592.4,"endTime":593.4,"body":"down on you?"},{"startTime":593.4,"endTime":594.4,"body":"- Okay."},{"startTime":594.4,"endTime":596.4,"body":"- Somebody wrote these questions over."},{"startTime":596.4,"endTime":599.4,"body":"- No, I literally thought that as soon as I read that, I was like the giraffe."},{"startTime":599.4,"endTime":601.4,"body":"- That's because it's always like a downer."},{"startTime":601.4,"endTime":602.4,"body":"- I love the logic when it's out."},{"startTime":602.4,"endTime":603.4,"body":"- She's crying."},{"startTime":603.4,"endTime":604.4,"body":"- Well, my first one is basic."},{"startTime":604.4,"endTime":605.4,"body":"It's my tissue."},{"startTime":605.4,"endTime":606.4,"body":"- Yes."},{"startTime":606.4,"endTime":607.4,"body":"- What was the first one?"},{"startTime":607.4,"endTime":611.4,"body":"- It was just a cat, because they're always like, you're so 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\"Sloth.\""},{"startTime":650.4,"endTime":651.4,"body":"- Okay."},{"startTime":651.4,"endTime":653.4,"body":"- I don't know who it is."},{"startTime":653.4,"endTime":655.4,"body":"- Well, because they don't even have like,"},{"startTime":655.4,"endTime":655.4,"body":"- They don't even have like,"},{"startTime":655.4,"endTime":657.4,"body":"- Passing them by the movies."},{"startTime":657.4,"endTime":661.4,"body":"- I don't, it would take them like 70 years to even say something else."},{"startTime":661.4,"endTime":662.4,"body":"- Somebody like, you,"},{"startTime":662.4,"endTime":664.4,"body":"(laughs)"},{"startTime":664.4,"endTime":667.4,"body":"throwing up the middle finger would take 10 years."},{"startTime":667.4,"endTime":669.4,"body":"(laughs)"},{"startTime":669.4,"endTime":670.4,"body":"- Who is?"},{"startTime":670.4,"endTime":671.4,"body":"- Or the thumbs down just very slowly."},{"startTime":671.4,"endTime":672.4,"body":"- They're mad because they're 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stuff."},{"startTime":690.4,"endTime":693.4,"body":"- That's our whole episode where we just ask each other questions."},{"startTime":693.4,"endTime":694.4,"body":"- Okay."},{"startTime":694.4,"endTime":697.4,"body":"- I'm all down, or I don't know, I'm for it."},{"startTime":697.4,"endTime":699.4,"body":"- I didn't get a present."},{"startTime":699.4,"endTime":700.4,"body":"- It's coming."},{"startTime":700.4,"endTime":701.4,"body":"You're gonna catch it."},{"startTime":701.4,"endTime":703.4,"body":"- You played with your kitty, you're in there."},{"startTime":703.4,"endTime":706.4,"body":"- All right, case collections."},{"startTime":706.4,"endTime":708.4,"body":"Let's hear what you guys have."},{"startTime":708.4,"endTime":711.4,"body":"- It's a vibrates."},{"startTime":777.54,"endTime":779.54,"body":"- Okay, court, you go first."},{"startTime":779.54,"endTime":780.54,"body":"- Okay, it was a vibrates."},{"startTime":780.54,"endTime":781.54,"body":"- It's a 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diagnostics."},{"startTime":1028.54,"endTime":1030.54,"body":"But he's one of our frequent flyers."},{"startTime":1030.54,"endTime":1033.54,"body":"And when he came in that day, I actually went and picked him up,"},{"startTime":1033.54,"endTime":1036.54,"body":"because his owner is right at town."},{"startTime":1036.54,"endTime":1039.54,"body":"And he wouldn't even get out of my car, which is very weird for him."},{"startTime":1039.54,"endTime":1042.54,"body":"And like Dr. Duffall walked back to treatment and didn't even recognize him."},{"startTime":1042.54,"endTime":1043.54,"body":"That's how dumpy he was."},{"startTime":1043.54,"endTime":1044.54,"body":"Yeah, he didn't look like himself."},{"startTime":1044.54,"endTime":1045.54,"body":"Yeah, he felt bad."},{"startTime":1045.54,"endTime":1046.54,"body":"But he's all better now."},{"startTime":1046.54,"endTime":1047.54,"body":"He's great."},{"startTime":1047.54,"endTime":1051.54,"body":"So treatment is also a way, what am I looking for?"},{"startTime":1051.54,"endTime":1052.54,"body":"Like a diagnosing?"},{"startTime":1052.54,"endTime":1053.54,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":1053.54,"endTime":1056.54,"body":"Yeah, but yeah, that's kind of how we approached it."},{"startTime":1056.54,"endTime":1058.54,"body":"Yeah, I think he's all better."},{"startTime":1058.54,"endTime":1059.54,"body":"That's awesome."},{"startTime":1059.54,"endTime":1060.54,"body":"That's awesome."},{"startTime":1060.54,"endTime":1061.54,"body":"I think there are so many instances."},{"startTime":1061.54,"endTime":1065.54,"body":"I talked about it before too, where like you're working up something else and you find something else."},{"startTime":1065.54,"endTime":1068.54,"body":"And it's like kind of like a blessing in disguise."},{"startTime":1068.54,"endTime":1069.54,"body":"I agree."},{"startTime":1069.54,"endTime":1076.54,"body":"And you can actually the more pressing problem is the secondary thing that you find"},{"startTime":1076.54,"endTime":1079.54,"body":"just because the dog or cat came in for something else incidental."},{"startTime":1079.54,"endTime":1080.54,"body":"I agree."},{"startTime":1080.54,"endTime":1081.54,"body":"And so it's pretty cool."},{"startTime":1081.54,"endTime":1082.54,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1082.54,"endTime":1085.54,"body":"I feel like explained that happens a lot with spawning masks."},{"startTime":1085.54,"endTime":1086.54,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1086.54,"endTime":1088.54,"body":"It's not a lot, but I mean, unless they're ruptured, you don't really,"},{"startTime":1088.54,"endTime":1090.5400000000002,"body":"or unless they're about to rupture, you don't really find them."},{"startTime":1090.5400000000002,"endTime":1091.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1091.5400000000002,"endTime":1093.5400000000002,"body":"Like there's no reason to just do an all-in-all for fun."},{"startTime":1093.5400000000002,"endTime":1094.5400000000002,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":1094.5400000000002,"endTime":1098.5400000000002,"body":"So, I think, yeah, so I'm really happy because it was, I think it was six centimeters or six"},{"startTime":1098.5400000000002,"endTime":1099.5400000000002,"body":"millimeters, something like that."},{"startTime":1099.5400000000002,"endTime":1100.5400000000002,"body":"It would have been six centimeters."},{"startTime":1100.5400000000002,"endTime":1101.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1101.5400000000002,"endTime":1102.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1102.5400000000002,"endTime":1108.5400000000002,"body":"And I think that, yeah, I mean, it's just fascinating how often that happens."},{"startTime":1108.5400000000002,"endTime":1113.5400000000002,"body":"And, you know, to Duck Ball's point, you don't know when you're looking on ultrasound because"},{"startTime":1113.5400000000002,"endTime":1116.5400000000002,"body":"hematomas and hemageostarcomas can be destructive in nature."},{"startTime":1116.5400000000002,"endTime":1120.5400000000002,"body":"So, you don't know which one it is, but they're what we call ticking time bombs."},{"startTime":1120.5400000000002,"endTime":1122.5400000000002,"body":"So, eventually, it's going to cause a problem."},{"startTime":1122.5400000000002,"endTime":1123.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1123.5400000000002,"endTime":1127.5400000000002,"body":"So, it's much better to be proactive by the animals in a good place, physically, to be able to"},{"startTime":1127.5400000000002,"endTime":1132.5400000000002,"body":"do surgery, remove the problem, and then they can move on about their, because they can live without their spleen."},{"startTime":1132.5400000000002,"endTime":1133.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1133.5400000000002,"endTime":1134.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1134.5400000000002,"endTime":1135.5400000000002,"body":"It's animal healthy enough to take it out."},{"startTime":1135.5400000000002,"endTime":1136.5400000000002,"body":"So, it's not a problem."},{"startTime":1136.5400000000002,"endTime":1138.5400000000002,"body":"And then you don't have to just sit there and wait for something bad."},{"startTime":1138.5400000000002,"endTime":1140.5400000000002,"body":"I mean, something bad might happen."},{"startTime":1140.5400000000002,"endTime":1141.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1141.5400000000002,"endTime":1142.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1142.5400000000002,"endTime":1143.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1143.5400000000002,"endTime":1144.5400000000002,"body":"It's awesome."},{"startTime":1144.5400000000002,"endTime":1145.5400000000002,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1145.5400000000002,"endTime":1146.5400000000002,"body":"I can go."},{"startTime":1146.5400000000002,"endTime":1147.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah, go for it."},{"startTime":1147.5400000000002,"endTime":1148.5400000000002,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1148.5400000000002,"endTime":1150.5400000000002,"body":"So, this is my cat."},{"startTime":1150.5400000000002,"endTime":1158.5400000000002,"body":"He is a six-year-old domestic short hair, and he's kind of had chronic reverse sneezing for most of his life."},{"startTime":1158.5400000000002,"endTime":1162.5400000000002,"body":"So, it started in 2020, December of 2020."},{"startTime":1162.5400000000002,"endTime":1168.5400000000002,"body":"So, three years ago, he just started reverse sneezing out of nowhere."},{"startTime":1168.5400000000002,"endTime":1174.5400000000002,"body":"I brought him in, and then we did a round of doxycycline and started 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We did, we ended up doing a core, so a dental procedure, and then just looked for polyps there, and we did not find any."},{"startTime":1206.5400000000002,"endTime":1212.5400000000002,"body":"So, from there, I'm kind of a crazy cat mom, and I want to do everything."},{"startTime":1212.5400000000002,"endTime":1220.5400000000002,"body":"So, no polyps. So, we went forward with thoracic radiographs to look for asthma or any changes, no changes, no asthma."},{"startTime":1220.5400000000002,"endTime":1225.5400000000002,"body":"So, I did a upper respiratory PCR fan on him, and that all came back negative."},{"startTime":1225.5400000000002,"endTime":1226.5400000000002,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1226.5400000000002,"endTime":1233.5400000000002,"body":"So, after trying so many different things, because I just really, it wasn't affecting his quality of life at all, that it was bothering me."},{"startTime":1233.5400000000002,"endTime":1237.5400000000002,"body":"And he, like, sound congested, so I just wanted to make sure it was fine."},{"startTime":1237.5400000000002,"endTime":1240.5400000000002,"body":"But we started him on cyclovance."},{"startTime":1240.5400000000002,"endTime":1245.5400000000002,"body":"He's probably been on it for like a year now. He's doing wonderful."},{"startTime":1245.5400000000002,"endTime":1254.5400000000002,"body":"Like, I gave it to him consistently for probably a month, and then I slowly weaned him off of it, and now I only have to give it maybe once a month."},{"startTime":1254.5400000000002,"endTime":1260.5400000000002,"body":"Like, if he starts flaring up and reversing, he's saying I'll give it a couple doses in a row, but..."},{"startTime":1260.5400000000002,"endTime":1262.5400000000002,"body":"So, you think his allergy related to him?"},{"startTime":1262.5400000000002,"endTime":1263.5400000000002,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":1263.5400000000002,"endTime":1264.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1264.5400000000002,"endTime":1266.5400000000002,"body":"So, rhinitis, like, just secondary to allergies."},{"startTime":1266.5400000000002,"endTime":1267.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1267.5400000000002,"endTime":1268.5400000000002,"body":"Fascinating."},{"startTime":1268.5400000000002,"endTime":1270.5400000000002,"body":"So, my allergy kiddo, little kitty."},{"startTime":1270.5400000000002,"endTime":1271.5400000000002,"body":"Oh my gosh."},{"startTime":1271.5400000000002,"endTime":1273.5400000000002,"body":"So, I'm glad that we finally figured it out."},{"startTime":1273.5400000000002,"endTime":1275.5400000000002,"body":"Well, you know, and what you do is rule out all those other things."},{"startTime":1275.5400000000002,"endTime":1276.5400000000002,"body":"I know."},{"startTime":1276.5400000000002,"endTime":1277.5400000000002,"body":"I always make sure you're better though."},{"startTime":1277.5400000000002,"endTime":1278.5400000000002,"body":"Oh my gosh."},{"startTime":1278.5400000000002,"endTime":1280.5400000000002,"body":"I know that there's not something more serious going on."},{"startTime":1280.5400000000002,"endTime":1281.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah, for sure."},{"startTime":1281.5400000000002,"endTime":1282.5400000000002,"body":"That's cool."},{"startTime":1282.5400000000002,"endTime":1283.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1283.5400000000002,"endTime":1284.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah, it's just like a cycle of ants."},{"startTime":1284.5400000000002,"endTime":1285.5400000000002,"body":"Probably once a month."},{"startTime":1285.5400000000002,"endTime":1286.5400000000002,"body":"Oh, okay."},{"startTime":1286.5400000000002,"endTime":1287.5400000000002,"body":"So, not very often."},{"startTime":1287.5400000000002,"endTime":1288.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1288.5400000000002,"endTime":1289.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1289.5400000000002,"endTime":1290.5400000000002,"body":"Mm-hm."},{"startTime":1290.5400000000002,"endTime":1291.5400000000002,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1291.5400000000002,"endTime":1297.5400000000002,"body":"And it doesn't seem to flare up, like, during certain seasons, because the first time I brought him in for it was December, and then, like, it was the same thing in the summer."},{"startTime":1297.5400000000002,"endTime":1298.5400000000002,"body":"So, it's not like only bad during spring or fall."},{"startTime":1298.5400000000002,"endTime":1299.5400000000002,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":1299.5400000000002,"endTime":1300.5400000000002,"body":"It's just, kind of..."},{"startTime":1300.5400000000002,"endTime":1301.5400000000002,"body":"So, it's interesting."},{"startTime":1301.5400000000002,"endTime":1302.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1302.5400000000002,"endTime":1303.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1303.5400000000002,"endTime":1304.5400000000002,"body":"Maybe it's something in the house."},{"startTime":1304.5400000000002,"endTime":1305.5400000000002,"body":"I know."},{"startTime":1305.5400000000002,"endTime":1307.5400000000002,"body":"Maybe he has a allergic to your other cat."},{"startTime":1307.5400000000002,"endTime":1308.5400000000002,"body":"Maybe."},{"startTime":1308.5400000000002,"endTime":1309.5400000000002,"body":"Maybe he's allergic to me."},{"startTime":1309.5400000000002,"endTime":1310.5400000000002,"body":"Good-being."},{"startTime":1310.5400000000002,"endTime":1311.5400000000002,"body":"Too bad."},{"startTime":1311.5400000000002,"endTime":1312.5400000000002,"body":"I'm just thinking of what to do."},{"startTime":1312.5400000000002,"endTime":1313.5400000000002,"body":"Exactly."},{"startTime":1313.5400000000002,"endTime":1314.5400000000002,"body":"Got to go back together."},{"startTime":1314.5400000000002,"endTime":1315.5400000000002,"body":"That's too bad."},{"startTime":1315.5400000000002,"endTime":1316.5400000000002,"body":"Walter?"},{"startTime":1316.5400000000002,"endTime":1317.5400000000002,"body":"Walter?"},{"startTime":1317.5400000000002,"endTime":1318.5400000000002,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":1318.5400000000002,"endTime":1319.5400000000002,"body":"Oh, my gosh."},{"startTime":1319.5400000000002,"endTime":1320.5400000000002,"body":"We should have a sneezing."},{"startTime":1320.5400000000002,"endTime":1321.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah, a whisper sneezing."},{"startTime":1321.5400000000002,"endTime":1322.5400000000002,"body":"I was doing great on cycle of ants."},{"startTime":1322.5400000000002,"endTime":1323.5400000000002,"body":"That's so good."},{"startTime":1323.5400000000002,"endTime":1324.5400000000002,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":1324.5400000000002,"endTime":1326.5400000000002,"body":"It's good, because some cats don't do as good, so..."},{"startTime":1326.5400000000002,"endTime":1327.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1327.5400000000002,"endTime":1328.5400000000002,"body":"And I only have to..."},{"startTime":1328.5400000000002,"endTime":1330.5400000000002,"body":"I was telling them, I only have to give it, like, once a month now."},{"startTime":1330.5400000000002,"endTime":1331.5400000000002,"body":"That's really good."},{"startTime":1331.5400000000002,"endTime":1332.5400000000002,"body":"Mm-hm."},{"startTime":1332.5400000000002,"endTime":1333.5400000000002,"body":"Oh."},{"startTime":1333.5400000000002,"endTime":1334.5400000000002,"body":"See, that's a happy story when you go to a 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conservative treatment, everything just to make him feel better."},{"startTime":1423.5400000000002,"endTime":1427.5400000000002,"body":"And the vet she was going to at the time was just like, \"Hey, there's really nothing more we can do.\""},{"startTime":1427.5400000000002,"endTime":1429.5400000000002,"body":"Which is... 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She did find the FIP warrior's Facebook page."},{"startTime":1454.5400000000002,"endTime":1459.5400000000002,"body":"And she got the... There's a drug I think that they talk about on there."},{"startTime":1459.5400000000002,"endTime":1463.5400000000002,"body":"She ended up getting a dose of it. I think she gave a few doses maybe."},{"startTime":1463.5400000000002,"endTime":1465.5400000000002,"body":"And her cat is completely healthy."},{"startTime":1465.5400000000002,"endTime":1469.5400000000002,"body":"And he no longer has FIP. I mean, hell, this blood works normal. He's eating again. He's playful."},{"startTime":1469.5400000000002,"endTime":1472.5400000000002,"body":"He's acting like a kitten. 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It doesn't have a name."},{"startTime":1489.5400000000002,"endTime":1490.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1490.5400000000002,"endTime":1493.5400000000002,"body":"But it also isn't sold in the United States, right?"},{"startTime":1493.5400000000002,"endTime":1496.5400000000002,"body":"Well, I literally don't even know where people get it."},{"startTime":1496.5400000000002,"endTime":1501.5400000000002,"body":"So the Facebook page, the FIP warriors can get a hold of it."},{"startTime":1501.5400000000002,"endTime":1505.5400000000002,"body":"And so then that's why those are the people that are helping folks with cats on FIP."},{"startTime":1505.5400000000002,"endTime":1510.5400000000002,"body":"But we were in our doctor's meeting and we were talking about Rindisavir, which is used in people for coronavirus."},{"startTime":1510.5400000000002,"endTime":1514.5400000000002,"body":"And there are some consultants that are using that now for FIP."},{"startTime":1514.5400000000002,"endTime":1519.5400000000002,"body":"Because now that it's FDA-proved, now we could use it off-label and animals."},{"startTime":1519.5400000000002,"endTime":1524.5400000000002,"body":"So there are some clinicians that are pulling that because it now..."},{"startTime":1524.5400000000002,"endTime":1527.5400000000002,"body":"Because the other product is not FDA-proved."},{"startTime":1527.5400000000002,"endTime":1529.5400000000002,"body":"And so it's hard to get a hold of."},{"startTime":1529.5400000000002,"endTime":1532.5400000000002,"body":"Whereas this one now that it's FDA-proved, if you can..."},{"startTime":1532.5400000000002,"endTime":1537.5400000000002,"body":"If your distributor can get a hold of it then potentially that could be a product that could be used at FIP."},{"startTime":1537.5400000000002,"endTime":1539.5400000000002,"body":"Are we seeing improvement?"},{"startTime":1539.5400000000002,"endTime":1541.5400000000002,"body":"Is there 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she had had an episode of this back in the summer."},{"startTime":1601.5400000000002,"endTime":1607.5400000000002,"body":"And saw a different doctor here and was worked out for allergies and ended up responding."},{"startTime":1607.5400000000002,"endTime":1608.5400000000002,"body":"They tried apical."},{"startTime":1608.5400000000002,"endTime":1609.5400000000002,"body":"She didn't tolerate it."},{"startTime":1609.5400000000002,"endTime":1610.5400000000002,"body":"G-I-Y's."},{"startTime":1610.5400000000002,"endTime":1612.5400000000002,"body":"And so then they switched to cytopoint."},{"startTime":1612.5400000000002,"endTime":1615.5400000000002,"body":"And it had been sometimes through that process."},{"startTime":1615.5400000000002,"endTime":1618.5400000000002,"body":"And so then she got the cytopoint, her hair was coming back."},{"startTime":1618.5400000000002,"endTime":1622.5400000000002,"body":"She wasn't like overtly puritic or even licking a lot or anything 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go."},{"startTime":1764.5400000000002,"endTime":1766.5400000000002,"body":"We stand at a dentist."},{"startTime":1766.5400000000002,"endTime":1767.5400000000002,"body":"So the texas."},{"startTime":1767.5400000000002,"endTime":1771.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah, if you're out there and you're sending in samples, send them to Texas."},{"startTime":1771.5400000000002,"endTime":1772.5400000000002,"body":"Yes, they're great."},{"startTime":1772.5400000000002,"endTime":1773.5400000000002,"body":"Yeah, they're awesome."},{"startTime":1773.5400000000002,"endTime":1775.5400000000002,"body":"Yes, I sent pictures too."},{"startTime":1775.5400000000002,"endTime":1776.5400000000002,"body":"We'll see."},{"startTime":1776.5400000000002,"endTime":1777.5400000000002,"body":"Okay, those are great cases."},{"startTime":1777.5400000000002,"endTime":1778.5400000000002,"body":"Good case it."},{"startTime":1778.5400000000002,"endTime":1780.5400000000002,"body":"Speaking of great 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have?"},{"startTime":1808.5400000000002,"endTime":1809.5400000000002,"body":"What is happening?"},{"startTime":1809.5400000000002,"endTime":1810.5400000000002,"body":"She's not even."},{"startTime":1810.5400000000002,"endTime":1811.5400000000002,"body":"We have a fake."},{"startTime":1811.5400000000002,"endTime":1812.5400000000002,"body":"That is just what the."},{"startTime":1812.5400000000002,"endTime":1813.5400000000002,"body":"You can definitely use it as a."},{"startTime":1813.5400000000002,"endTime":1814.5400000000002,"body":"A white helmet."},{"startTime":1814.5400000000002,"endTime":1815.5400000000002,"body":"Sure."},{"startTime":1815.5400000000002,"endTime":1816.5400000000002,"body":"Why not?"},{"startTime":1816.5400000000002,"endTime":1817.5400000000002,"body":"We can go into wall."},{"startTime":1817.5400000000002,"endTime":1818.5400000000002,"body":"Oh, Jay."},{"startTime":1818.5400000000002,"endTime":1819.5400000000002,"body":"Oh, when."},{"startTime":1819.5400000000002,"endTime":1820.5400000000002,"body":"That has what be presented."},{"startTime":1820.5400000000002,"endTime":1821.5400000000002,"body":"Catcher the rudist."},{"startTime":1821.5400000000002,"endTime":1822.5400000000002,"body":"Oh, yeah, but I'm."},{"startTime":1822.5400000000002,"endTime":1823.5400000000002,"body":"I'm."},{"startTime":1823.5400000000002,"endTime":1824.5400000000002,"body":"I'm."},{"startTime":1824.5400000000002,"endTime":1825.5400000000002,"body":"Gave two little rolls like some."},{"startTime":1825.5400000000002,"endTime":1826.5400000000002,"body":"Toys to play with."},{"startTime":1826.5400000000002,"endTime":1827.5400000000002,"body":"And they're just like."},{"startTime":1827.5400000000002,"endTime":1828.5400000000002,"body":"Gosh."},{"startTime":1828.5400000000002,"endTime":1829.5400000000002,"body":"He wants your."},{"startTime":1829.5400000000002,"endTime":1831.5400000000002,"body":"Where are them with your helmet?"},{"startTime":1831.5400000000002,"endTime":1832.5400000000002,"body":"That would keep your helmet on."},{"startTime":1832.5400000000002,"endTime":1833.5400000000002,"body":"And then you're."},{"startTime":1833.5400000000002,"endTime":1834.5400000000002,"body":"And your."},{"startTime":1834.5400000000002,"endTime":1835.5400000000002,"body":"Your ghost cat."},{"startTime":1835.5400000000002,"endTime":1836.5400000000002,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1836.5400000000002,"endTime":1837.5400000000002,"body":"Here we go."},{"startTime":1837.5400000000002,"endTime":1838.5400000000002,"body":"Let's move on."},{"startTime":1838.5400000000002,"endTime":1839.5400000000002,"body":"This is the girls in school."},{"startTime":1839.5400000000002,"endTime":1840.5400000000002,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1840.5400000000002,"endTime":1841.5400000000002,"body":"Go ahead, duck wall."},{"startTime":1841.5400000000002,"endTime":1842.5400000000002,"body":"All 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following you on TikTok since I started vet school."},{"startTime":1860.9,"endTime":1865.2,"body":"I love your podcast so much and I can relate them to my classes which has been helping"},{"startTime":1865.2,"endTime":1867.68,"body":"me understand the content better."},{"startTime":1867.68,"endTime":1870.98,"body":"Y'all make me so excited for this career and I'm so grateful for your podcast."},{"startTime":1870.98,"endTime":1872.76,"body":"So I have a question for the group."},{"startTime":1872.76,"endTime":1877.8400000000001,"body":"In the UK you have to in all caps, today any animal for radio graphs."},{"startTime":1877.8400000000001,"endTime":1882.6200000000001,"body":"Does not matter if it's an emergency or the age, you have to do it as humans are not"},{"startTime":1882.6200000000001,"endTime":1886.4,"body":"allowed to be within two meters of the primary x-ray beam."},{"startTime":1886.4,"endTime":1890.1200000000001,"body":"Meaning patients are held into position with tape and sandbags."},{"startTime":1890.1200000000001,"endTime":1892.38,"body":"My question is, what is your opinion on this?"},{"startTime":1892.38,"endTime":1896.5400000000002,"body":"How would you feel about sedating or putting under GA any and all patients that need a"},{"startTime":1896.5400000000002,"endTime":1913.1200000000001,"body":"radio graph at Michelle?"},{"startTime":1913.1200000000001,"endTime":1915.1200000000001,"body":"So I was thinking about this question."},{"startTime":1915.1200000000001,"endTime":1919.64,"body":"I was like, oh, back in the day."},{"startTime":1919.64,"endTime":1922.44,"body":"So digital x-rays are new, right?"},{"startTime":1922.44,"endTime":1925.6200000000001,"body":"And new in terms of newer years."},{"startTime":1925.6200000000001,"endTime":1931.94,"body":"So when I was in school, they definitely sedated every single patient for x-rays."},{"startTime":1931.94,"endTime":1933.94,"body":"And that was the 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yeah."},{"startTime":2098.7,"endTime":2100.86,"body":"Yes, yeah, no, you absolutely do."},{"startTime":2100.86,"endTime":2103.1,"body":"But I still think the safest thing is to not be."},{"startTime":2103.1,"endTime":2104.1,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":2104.1,"endTime":2105.1,"body":"Not be there."},{"startTime":2105.1,"endTime":2106.1,"body":"Not be there."},{"startTime":2106.1,"endTime":2107.1,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2107.1,"endTime":2109.3,"body":"When we have sedated patients, we don't even leave the room."},{"startTime":2109.3,"endTime":2110.3,"body":"We're still in the room."},{"startTime":2110.3,"endTime":2111.3,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2111.3,"endTime":2112.3,"body":"Taking the extras."},{"startTime":2112.3,"endTime":2113.3,"body":"Oh, to show that I think."},{"startTime":2113.3,"endTime":2114.2999999999997,"body":"To be away from 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it's not safe for them to go under sedation"},{"startTime":2136.1,"endTime":2137.1,"body":"or GA."},{"startTime":2137.1,"endTime":2140.2599999999998,"body":"I think at that point, doesn't the extras probably earn as important maybe?"},{"startTime":2140.2599999999998,"endTime":2141.2599999999998,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2141.2599999999998,"endTime":2144.06,"body":"I think it's just, yeah, it's a case dependent."},{"startTime":2144.06,"endTime":2146.02,"body":"I don't think it's a bad role to have."},{"startTime":2146.02,"endTime":2149.62,"body":"I just don't think when you, especially when you come back to New Jersey and into the"},{"startTime":2149.62,"endTime":2155.14,"body":"States, you're going to, I mean, depending on your client, tell, probably realize it's"},{"startTime":2155.14,"endTime":2156.14,"body":"you won't have to do that."},{"startTime":2156.14,"endTime":2157.14,"body":"That's not necessary."},{"startTime":2157.14,"endTime":2161.46,"body":"But then also it's going to add to your day in the time too, like, you be as efficient"},{"startTime":2161.46,"endTime":2162.46,"body":"still by doing that."},{"startTime":2162.46,"endTime":2163.46,"body":"And, yeah, so do you."},{"startTime":2163.46,"endTime":2164.46,"body":"Is the patient fasted?"},{"startTime":2164.46,"endTime":2165.7,"body":"There's another risk there."},{"startTime":2165.7,"endTime":2166.7,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":2166.7,"endTime":2172.06,"body":"I mean, I think, at least for my team are, like, if we have an orthopedic X-ray, we have"},{"startTime":2172.06,"endTime":2173.66,"body":"to do, we always sedate them."},{"startTime":2173.66,"endTime":2174.66,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":2174.66,"endTime":2178.2999999999997,"body":"Because the patient's usually painful and you need specific positioning."},{"startTime":2178.2999999999997,"endTime":2180.5,"body":"And so you just can't practically do that awake."},{"startTime":2180.5,"endTime":2181.5,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2181.5,"endTime":2183.5,"body":"That's just not any head stuff."},{"startTime":2183.5,"endTime":2184.5,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2184.5,"endTime":2188.3799999999997,"body":"I mean, I think that it's, yeah, it's too hard at the animals moving and all."},{"startTime":2188.3799999999997,"endTime":2189.3799999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2189.3799999999997,"endTime":2190.3799999999997,"body":"Your X-rays are blown."},{"startTime":2190.3799999999997,"endTime":2191.3799999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2191.3799999999997,"endTime":2197.74,"body":"I was also going to add, and when I was in college, which was like four years ago, we sedated"},{"startTime":2197.74,"endTime":2200.98,"body":"every patient taped on the table and had to process every film too."},{"startTime":2200.98,"endTime":2201.98,"body":"Oh, yeah."},{"startTime":2201.98,"endTime":2202.98,"body":"You did have to process every..."},{"startTime":2202.98,"endTime":2203.98,"body":"We had a dark room."},{"startTime":2203.98,"endTime":2204.98,"body":"Oh my god."},{"startTime":2204.98,"endTime":2205.98,"body":"We started getting the digital."},{"startTime":2205.98,"endTime":2206.98,"body":"Even these days."},{"startTime":2206.98,"endTime":2207.98,"body":"Even these days."},{"startTime":2207.98,"endTime":2208.98,"body":"We started back in the day."},{"startTime":2208.98,"endTime":2209.98,"body":"We started here."},{"startTime":2209.98,"endTime":2209.98,"body":"We just started getting the digital."},{"startTime":2209.98,"endTime":2210.98,"body":"Well, yeah, but we didn't have to process them."},{"startTime":2210.98,"endTime":2212.98,"body":"We had, like, we just put the film into the machines."},{"startTime":2212.98,"endTime":2213.98,"body":"We didn't have like a dark room."},{"startTime":2213.98,"endTime":2214.98,"body":"We didn't have to."},{"startTime":2214.98,"endTime":2218.54,"body":"Like, I had to put it 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oh my God."},{"startTime":2256.7,"endTime":2258.22,"body":"Yeah, you gotta go back and do that."},{"startTime":2258.22,"endTime":2259.22,"body":"Yeah, I had to do that."},{"startTime":2259.22,"endTime":2260.22,"body":"And that was only four years ago."},{"startTime":2260.22,"endTime":2261.9,"body":"That's a nice, I'd be see still has a dark room."},{"startTime":2261.9,"endTime":2262.9,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":2262.9,"endTime":2263.9,"body":"No, it's not."},{"startTime":2263.9,"endTime":2264.9,"body":"It's like knowing the capitals now."},{"startTime":2264.9,"endTime":2265.9,"body":"Well, yeah, what am I going to do with that matter?"},{"startTime":2265.9,"endTime":2266.9,"body":"Well, that's what I'm saying."},{"startTime":2266.9,"endTime":2267.9,"body":"It does not matter."},{"startTime":2267.9,"endTime":2268.9,"body":"It does not matter."},{"startTime":2268.9,"endTime":2269.9,"body":"I don't know your computer."},{"startTime":2269.9,"endTime":2270.9,"body":"There's like one or two seconds."},{"startTime":2270.9,"endTime":2277.74,"body":"Like, who cares if you know the capital of Massachusetts, you know the States?"},{"startTime":2277.74,"endTime":2278.74,"body":"No, I don't know."},{"startTime":2278.74,"endTime":2279.74,"body":"Probably no."},{"startTime":2279.74,"endTime":2280.74,"body":"Alabama."},{"startTime":2280.74,"endTime":2281.74,"body":"Alaska, Arizona."},{"startTime":2281.74,"endTime":2282.74,"body":"Arkansas."},{"startTime":2282.74,"endTime":2283.74,"body":"I'm not."},{"startTime":2283.74,"endTime":2284.74,"body":"Arkansas."},{"startTime":2284.74,"endTime":2286.54,"body":"I'm trying to think."},{"startTime":2286.54,"endTime":2287.94,"body":"What is the capital of North Dakota?"},{"startTime":2287.94,"endTime":2290.3399999999997,"body":"I think I don't know, but you know what I can do."},{"startTime":2290.3399999999997,"endTime":2293.18,"body":"I think I start to realize the capital of North Dakota."},{"startTime":2293.18,"endTime":2297.8199999999997,"body":"Siri, what are the capital of North Dakota?"},{"startTime":2297.8199999999997,"endTime":2298.8199999999997,"body":"I'm not really answering."},{"startTime":2298.8199999999997,"endTime":2299.8199999999997,"body":"Siri, I don't know about it."},{"startTime":2299.8199999999997,"endTime":2300.8199999999997,"body":"Siri doesn't care."},{"startTime":2300.8199999999997,"endTime":2305.94,"body":"What's the capital of North Dakota?"},{"startTime":2305.94,"endTime":2306.94,"body":"Bismarck."},{"startTime":2306.94,"endTime":2307.94,"body":"Bismarck."},{"startTime":2307.94,"endTime":2309.2999999999997,"body":"Bussy, but like the dark room."},{"startTime":2309.2999999999997,"endTime":2311.9,"body":"There's probably like one in a million clinics right now that have a dark room and"},{"startTime":2311.9,"endTime":2312.9,"body":"you have to process or it."},{"startTime":2312.9,"endTime":2313.9,"body":"Oh, I think so."},{"startTime":2313.9,"endTime":2314.9,"body":"I do absolutely."},{"startTime":2314.9,"endTime":2315.9,"body":"Absolutely."},{"startTime":2315.9,"endTime":2316.9,"body":"I do absolutely."},{"startTime":2316.9,"endTime":2321.14,"body":"Yes, cheap and just, you know, then I wouldn't work with this clinic."},{"startTime":2321.14,"endTime":2323.74,"body":"Yeah, I would not work in those clinics."},{"startTime":2323.74,"endTime":2324.74,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2324.74,"endTime":2326.74,"body":"So, okay, that's our other advice, Michelle."},{"startTime":2326.74,"endTime":2328.2999999999997,"body":"You get out and come back to Jersey."},{"startTime":2328.2999999999997,"endTime":2330.46,"body":"Don't know the clinic that has a dark room."},{"startTime":2330.46,"endTime":2332.06,"body":"No, get a clinic with digital."},{"startTime":2332.06,"endTime":2334.98,"body":"We got that digital, actually, machine here."},{"startTime":2334.98,"endTime":2335.98,"body":"I was like, whoa."},{"startTime":2335.98,"endTime":2336.98,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2336.98,"endTime":2340.42,"body":"Because I don't know how we used to do it because there would be like 10 to 15 minutes in"},{"startTime":2340.42,"endTime":2342.46,"body":"between each film because we'd have to put it in the thing."},{"startTime":2342.46,"endTime":2343.66,"body":"I'm like, what do we do with the dogs?"},{"startTime":2343.66,"endTime":2345.2999999999997,"body":"I said, I don't remember."},{"startTime":2345.2999999999997,"endTime":2347.42,"body":"I think somebody's, you act man."},{"startTime":2347.42,"endTime":2348.8199999999997,"body":"Maybe we had an extra person."},{"startTime":2348.8199999999997,"endTime":2349.8199999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2349.8199999999997,"endTime":2353.94,"body":"So, is why we held that might have been a lot of me and I did a lot of weird things that"},{"startTime":2353.94,"endTime":2354.94,"body":"we got."},{"startTime":2354.94,"endTime":2357.3799999999997,"body":"So, the customers, very good question."},{"startTime":2357.3799999999997,"endTime":2359.62,"body":"Did everyone share their opinion on the question?"},{"startTime":2359.62,"endTime":2360.62,"body":"I think so."},{"startTime":2360.62,"endTime":2362.3799999999997,"body":"Okay, great question."},{"startTime":2362.3799999999997,"endTime":2365.2599999999998,"body":"Courtney, would you like to have every animal was sedated?"},{"startTime":2365.2599999999998,"endTime":2366.2599999999998,"body":"You're the technician."},{"startTime":2366.2599999999998,"endTime":2367.2599999999998,"body":"You're the technician."},{"startTime":2367.2599999999998,"endTime":2368.2599999999998,"body":"Um, an anti-corporate."},{"startTime":2368.2599999999998,"endTime":2369.2599999999998,"body":"It's case of Pennay, okay?"},{"startTime":2369.2599999999998,"endTime":2370.2599999999998,"body":"An orangey."},{"startTime":2370.2599999999998,"endTime":2375.1,"body":"Because, like, sedation is so time-consuming and like I would not want to have to"},{"startTime":2375.1,"endTime":2377.8599999999997,"body":"sedate every single animal that walked through the building and then needed extra space."},{"startTime":2377.8599999999997,"endTime":2378.8599999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2378.8599999999997,"endTime":2379.8599999999997,"body":"That would not, that's not feasible."},{"startTime":2379.8599999999997,"endTime":2380.8599999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2380.8599999999997,"endTime":2384.22,"body":"So, our opinion is we would sedate animals that are painful."},{"startTime":2384.22,"endTime":2385.22,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":2385.22,"endTime":2386.22,"body":"Too wiggly."},{"startTime":2386.22,"endTime":2387.22,"body":"You can't get accurate phones."},{"startTime":2387.22,"endTime":2388.22,"body":"Too aggressive."},{"startTime":2388.22,"endTime":2389.22,"body":"Too aggressive."},{"startTime":2389.22,"endTime":2390.22,"body":"Mm-hmm."},{"startTime":2390.22,"endTime":2391.22,"body":"And orthopedics."},{"startTime":2391.22,"endTime":2392.22,"body":"That's for me."},{"startTime":2392.22,"endTime":2393.22,"body":"That's for me."},{"startTime":2393.22,"endTime":2394.22,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2394.22,"endTime":2395.22,"body":"But no, I would not want to sedate every animal."},{"startTime":2395.22,"endTime":2396.22,"body":"It sounds nice."},{"startTime":2396.22,"endTime":2397.22,"body":"It sounds like amazing."},{"startTime":2397.22,"endTime":2400.22,"body":"That I could just lay an animal there, but that's a lot."},{"startTime":2400.22,"endTime":2401.22,"body":"You should recover then."},{"startTime":2401.22,"endTime":2403.22,"body":"Well, that's the big thing is that we have a whole lot of the post-war."},{"startTime":2403.22,"endTime":2404.22,"body":"A whole hour."},{"startTime":2404.22,"endTime":2405.22,"body":"A whole sedation."},{"startTime":2405.22,"endTime":2406.22,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2406.22,"endTime":2408.66,"body":"Like, hour or longer depending on how fast the patient wakes up."},{"startTime":2408.66,"endTime":2409.66,"body":"So, no."},{"startTime":2409.66,"endTime":2410.66,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2410.66,"endTime":2411.66,"body":"There we have it."},{"startTime":2411.66,"endTime":2413.66,"body":"At least you can decide in the United States."},{"startTime":2413.66,"endTime":2414.66,"body":"Exactly."},{"startTime":2414.66,"endTime":2415.66,"body":"You have the power."},{"startTime":2415.66,"endTime":2416.66,"body":"The power."},{"startTime":2416.66,"endTime":2417.66,"body":"All right, Michelle."},{"startTime":2417.66,"endTime":2418.66,"body":"Keep after it."},{"startTime":2418.66,"endTime":2419.66,"body":"Great question."},{"startTime":2419.66,"endTime":2420.66,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":2420.66,"endTime":2421.66,"body":"You're almost there."},{"startTime":2421.66,"endTime":2422.66,"body":"And thanks for listening."},{"startTime":2422.66,"endTime":2423.66,"body":"Instead of a picture of scum."},{"startTime":2423.66,"endTime":2424.66,"body":"I was just going to say, that was pictures."},{"startTime":2424.66,"endTime":2425.66,"body":"That was pictures."},{"startTime":2425.66,"endTime":2426.66,"body":"That's my dream."},{"startTime":2426.66,"endTime":2427.66,"body":"It's my dream places to go."},{"startTime":2427.66,"endTime":2428.66,"body":"It's a big thing."},{"startTime":2428.66,"endTime":2429.66,"body":"Very cool."},{"startTime":2429.66,"endTime":2430.66,"body":"Very cool."},{"startTime":2430.66,"endTime":2435.66,"body":"Thank you for, thank you so much for tuning into another episode of the veterinary roundtable."},{"startTime":2435.66,"endTime":2439.1,"body":"Remember, send in those questions and be sure to follow us on all social media platforms"},{"startTime":2439.1,"endTime":2440.62,"body":"at AllStar 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