{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":0.0,"endTime":2.58,"body":"(upbeat music)"},{"startTime":2.58,"endTime":6.46,"body":"Hello everyone and welcome to another episode"},{"startTime":6.46,"endTime":7.38,"body":"of the veterinary round table,"},{"startTime":7.38,"endTime":9.42,"body":"the podcast where we answer your veterinary related questions"},{"startTime":9.42,"endTime":10.86,"body":"while having some fun along the way."},{"startTime":10.86,"endTime":12.22,"body":"If you enjoyed today's episode,"},{"startTime":12.22,"endTime":15.54,"body":"be sure to leave us a review on your podcast provider of choice."},{"startTime":15.54,"endTime":16.98,"body":"And if you have any feedback to offer"},{"startTime":16.98,"endTime":19.5,"body":"to improve the veterinary round table, let us know."},{"startTime":19.5,"endTime":21.14,"body":"- Let us know."},{"startTime":21.14,"endTime":24.82,"body":"- You might notice the weirdness because it's 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awesome."},{"startTime":258.18,"endTime":259.02,"body":"- Okay."},{"startTime":259.02,"endTime":260.58,"body":"Hello, my name is Trinity."},{"startTime":260.58,"endTime":261.26,"body":"Hello."},{"startTime":261.26,"endTime":262.78,"body":"I'm obsessed with your podcast."},{"startTime":262.78,"endTime":265.02,"body":"I love everything to do with veterinary medicine."},{"startTime":265.02,"endTime":268.34,"body":"The information you all share in this podcast helps me learn so much."},{"startTime":268.34,"endTime":273.1,"body":"I'm currently in undergrad getting a bachelor degree in wildlife sustainability"},{"startTime":273.1,"endTime":276.38,"body":"and ecosystem studies with a concentration in Pre-Vet."},{"startTime":276.38,"endTime":278.74,"body":"I hope to one day become a zoo veterinarian."},{"startTime":278.74,"endTime":279.74,"body":"- Ooh."},{"startTime":279.74,"endTime":282.82,"body":"- I was curious how y'all studied in the undergrad and veterinary school."},{"startTime":282.82,"endTime":287.62,"body":"I don't do well with lectures, so it is hard for me to retain the information."},{"startTime":287.62,"endTime":290.78,"body":"I also work full time as a veterinary surgical technician."},{"startTime":290.78,"endTime":295.34,"body":"I am looking for a good way to study so I can remember information for tests."},{"startTime":295.34,"endTime":296.34,"body":"Thank you in advancing."},{"startTime":296.34,"endTime":299.1,"body":"Keep up the amazing work y'all are doing on this podcast."},{"startTime":299.1,"endTime":300.1,"body":"- Oh, that's so nice."},{"startTime":300.1,"endTime":301.1,"body":"- With a hard emoji."},{"startTime":301.1,"endTime":302.1,"body":"- With a hard emoji too."},{"startTime":302.1,"endTime":303.1,"body":"That's really cool."},{"startTime":303.1,"endTime":304.1,"body":"- Thanks for the review."},{"startTime":304.1,"endTime":305.1,"body":"And-"},{"startTime":305.1,"endTime":306.1,"body":"- And the 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right?"},{"startTime":787.4,"endTime":788.4,"body":"- Which is great."},{"startTime":788.4,"endTime":789.4,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":789.4,"endTime":790.4,"body":"- You know stuff that you don't even know, you know?"},{"startTime":790.4,"endTime":791.4,"body":"- That's right."},{"startTime":791.4,"endTime":794.16,"body":"I got to give a shout out to Julie Rosta, who listens as well."},{"startTime":794.16,"endTime":796.16,"body":"She is a student."},{"startTime":796.16,"endTime":803.3199999999999,"body":"Oh gosh, I'm not going to remember where she's at school, but her mom has been a friend forever"},{"startTime":803.3199999999999,"endTime":807.16,"body":"because her, all of her children went to school with all of my children."},{"startTime":807.16,"endTime":808.16,"body":"So, yeah."},{"startTime":808.16,"endTime":809.16,"body":"Shout out."},{"startTime":809.16,"endTime":810.16,"body":"Shout out."},{"startTime":810.16,"endTime":811.16,"body":"Thank you for the support."},{"startTime":811.16,"endTime":812.16,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":812.16,"endTime":813.48,"body":"- All the students out there, you guys are amazing."},{"startTime":813.48,"endTime":814.48,"body":"- You can do it."},{"startTime":814.48,"endTime":815.48,"body":"- Yes, you can do it."},{"startTime":815.48,"endTime":819.04,"body":"And if you have friends that aren't students, have them listen to us because we're funny"},{"startTime":819.04,"endTime":820.04,"body":"and we're cool."},{"startTime":820.04,"endTime":821.04,"body":"- Exactly."},{"startTime":821.04,"endTime":822.04,"body":"We'll provide at least some humor."},{"startTime":822.04,"endTime":823.04,"body":"That's right."},{"startTime":823.04,"endTime":824.04,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":824.04,"endTime":825.72,"body":"What are we on to?"},{"startTime":825.72,"endTime":827.3199999999999,"body":"Case collections, right?"},{"startTime":827.3199999999999,"endTime":828.3199999999999,"body":"- Are 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me."},{"startTime":850.72,"endTime":851.72,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":851.72,"endTime":852.72,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":852.72,"endTime":854.52,"body":"So we should have a luncheon."},{"startTime":854.52,"endTime":856.3199999999999,"body":"- Yes, a luncheon."},{"startTime":856.3199999999999,"endTime":857.3199999999999,"body":"That's what--"},{"startTime":857.3199999999999,"endTime":859.4,"body":"- Every woman loves brunch."},{"startTime":859.4,"endTime":860.48,"body":"- Every woman does love brunch."},{"startTime":860.48,"endTime":861.48,"body":"That is true."},{"startTime":861.48,"endTime":862.48,"body":"I'm Dr. King."},{"startTime":862.48,"endTime":863.48,"body":"I'm Dr. Duckwell."},{"startTime":863.48,"endTime":864.48,"body":"- And there we go."},{"startTime":864.48,"endTime":865.48,"body":"- Okay."},{"startTime":865.48,"endTime":866.48,"body":"- And she's the two of us."},{"startTime":866.48,"endTime":870.3199999999999,"body":"It's the two of us, like we said, with our vast 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we have a joint case."},{"startTime":1177.5,"endTime":1178.5,"body":"His name is Toby."},{"startTime":1178.5,"endTime":1187.6200000000001,"body":"He's a four-year-old, neutered male domestic short hair, whom I saw on Thursday, no, Wednesday"},{"startTime":1187.6200000000001,"endTime":1193.5,"body":"of last week for an acute urethral obstruction."},{"startTime":1193.5,"endTime":1196.7,"body":"Okay, he was blocked and he could not urinate."},{"startTime":1196.7,"endTime":1204.26,"body":"So the history was for about two days, he was eating lethargic, hiding, and then there"},{"startTime":1204.26,"endTime":1205.26,"body":"was vocalization."},{"startTime":1205.26,"endTime":1207.0600000000002,"body":"They haven't seen urine."},{"startTime":1207.0600000000002,"endTime":1212.9,"body":"He had a history of bladder, sorry, urinary issues, I guess, back in December, but he wasn't"},{"startTime":1212.9,"endTime":1213.9,"body":"completely blocked."},{"startTime":1213.9,"endTime":1214.9,"body":"- 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up."},{"startTime":1248.26,"endTime":1255.0600000000002,"body":"So in our protocol, we just essentially start to try to get initiate treatment by at least"},{"startTime":1255.0600000000002,"endTime":1259.14,"body":"giving pain meds on board while we kind of go through it with owner and expectations"},{"startTime":1259.14,"endTime":1260.14,"body":"and stuff."},{"startTime":1260.14,"endTime":1266.14,"body":"So she approved on blocking him, which consisted of us, the pain med made him sleepy, but"},{"startTime":1266.14,"endTime":1267.7,"body":"you still need more on top of that."},{"startTime":1267.7,"endTime":1275.5800000000002,"body":"So we put placed an IV catheter and then we gave propylfall, which is an acidation induction"},{"startTime":1275.5800000000002,"endTime":1279.0600000000002,"body":"med to basically put them in a more unconscious state."},{"startTime":1279.0600000000002,"endTime":1284.22,"body":"And so, depending on how long it takes to relieve the obstruction in the urethra, you may"},{"startTime":1284.22,"endTime":1287.5800000000002,"body":"remain a hot to translate over to gas and anesthesia, which we did."},{"startTime":1287.5800000000002,"endTime":1290.22,"body":"We had to intubate and put them on gas for safety."},{"startTime":1290.22,"endTime":1293.14,"body":"- Did you guys try that coxidial block at all?"},{"startTime":1293.14,"endTime":1294.14,"body":"- So, no."},{"startTime":1294.14,"endTime":1298.6200000000001,"body":"But they say it's so easy, but I find it really hard."},{"startTime":1298.6200000000001,"endTime":1301.18,"body":"- Well, I did on one before."},{"startTime":1301.18,"endTime":1306.46,"body":"And I felt his space and I feel like I probably could have, but she was financially conscious"},{"startTime":1306.46,"endTime":1310.74,"body":"and so I didn't want to knowing I was going to have to do other things anyway."},{"startTime":1310.74,"endTime":1312.9,"body":"I didn't want to do that."},{"startTime":1312.9,"endTime":1316.6200000000001,"body":"So it was a tough one to unblock."},{"startTime":1316.6200000000001,"endTime":1322.26,"body":"So we had to do multiple positions and what you do is you get various types of urinary"},{"startTime":1322.26,"endTime":1327.66,"body":"catheters to see what will pass through and then simultaneously someone is pulsing fluid"},{"startTime":1327.66,"endTime":1332.18,"body":"through the urethra because, yeah, there's something lodged there."},{"startTime":1332.18,"endTime":1333.5800000000002,"body":"- You kind of blow it up like a balloon."},{"startTime":1333.5800000000002,"endTime":1334.5800000000002,"body":"- Yeah, exactly."},{"startTime":1334.5800000000002,"endTime":1337.18,"body":"- Like on each end so that it might work."},{"startTime":1337.18,"endTime":1338.18,"body":"- Yeah, the pressure."},{"startTime":1338.18,"endTime":1341.22,"body":"- And then it relieves the big pressure."},{"startTime":1341.22,"endTime":1345.5800000000002,"body":"- So, had multiple doctors hands on to try to get it done."},{"startTime":1345.5800000000002,"endTime":1350.5400000000002,"body":"We did scan his urinary bladder to look for his or stones as their sludge and his was"},{"startTime":1350.5400000000002,"endTime":1357.38,"body":"at the time mostly, consists of sludge, just floating, could be blood, could be mucus,"},{"startTime":1357.38,"endTime":1358.38,"body":"whatever."},{"startTime":1358.38,"endTime":1363.66,"body":"Finally got him unblocked, kept the urinary catheter in overnight."},{"startTime":1363.66,"endTime":1365.98,"body":"Blood work is also an important thing and also there."},{"startTime":1365.98,"endTime":1368.66,"body":"- That's what I was going to ask was how bad was it, where is kidneys?"},{"startTime":1368.66,"endTime":1370.66,"body":"- Kidneys were really not that bad."},{"startTime":1370.66,"endTime":1377.38,"body":"His creatinine was 2.7, his BUN was 40, so it wasn't terrible, but they can get really"},{"startTime":1377.38,"endTime":1378.38,"body":"bad quit."},{"startTime":1378.38,"endTime":1379.38,"body":"- What was his potassium?"},{"startTime":1379.38,"endTime":1380.38,"body":"- Remember, it's normal, I think."},{"startTime":1380.38,"endTime":1381.38,"body":"- Oh, that's good."},{"startTime":1381.38,"endTime":1382.38,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":1382.38,"endTime":1386.0600000000002,"body":"You worry when the potassium gets too high that can create a heart arrhythmia, which then"},{"startTime":1386.0600000000002,"endTime":1389.0600000000002,"body":"can put them in dire danger."},{"startTime":1389.0600000000002,"endTime":1390.0600000000002,"body":"- Right, very risky."},{"startTime":1390.0600000000002,"endTime":1391.0600000000002,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":1391.0600000000002,"endTime":1394.46,"body":"- But his ECG was fine, his heart rate and all that."},{"startTime":1394.46,"endTime":1398.22,"body":"So, that's where the story started."},{"startTime":1398.22,"endTime":1399.22,"body":"Not ended."},{"startTime":1399.22,"endTime":1401.38,"body":"- That's right, exactly."},{"startTime":1401.38,"endTime":1407.7,"body":"- The biggest thing with blocked cats, especially with his history is if you did not pursue"},{"startTime":1407.7,"endTime":1409.7,"body":"getting, like, doing a sistotomy."},{"startTime":1409.7,"endTime":1414.22,"body":"So, going into the bladder, removing all that crud, the risk is extremely high."},{"startTime":1414.22,"endTime":1416.94,"body":"He will just re-block within 24 hours."},{"startTime":1416.94,"endTime":1424.14,"body":"This owner being just financially constrained and obviously concerned actually prompted me"},{"startTime":1424.14,"endTime":1430.7800000000002,"body":"on other surgery or other options, I should say, other than just cleaning up the bladder."},{"startTime":1430.7800000000002,"endTime":1431.7800000000002,"body":"- Right."},{"startTime":1431.7800000000002,"endTime":1435.66,"body":"- So, I don't know if you want to kind of go into what a PU is and why we do it and stuff"},{"startTime":1435.66,"endTime":1436.66,"body":"like that."},{"startTime":1436.66,"endTime":1437.66,"body":"- Sure."},{"startTime":1437.66,"endTime":1440.0200000000002,"body":"So, you guys did the sistotomy."},{"startTime":1440.0200000000002,"endTime":1441.0200000000002,"body":"- Yep."},{"startTime":1441.0200000000002,"endTime":1445.5,"body":"- And at the same time, since she had asked about, \"Hey, is there a way to potentially try"},{"startTime":1445.5,"endTime":1446.5,"body":"and prevent?\""},{"startTime":1446.5,"endTime":1448.3000000000002,"body":"That's a strong word, you know?"},{"startTime":1448.3000000000002,"endTime":1450.5800000000002,"body":"But for the most part, prevent future episodes."},{"startTime":1450.5800000000002,"endTime":1452.74,"body":"- She put, is there anything permanent we can do?"},{"startTime":1452.74,"endTime":1454.26,"body":"- Permanent we can do, yeah."},{"startTime":1454.26,"endTime":1459.1200000000001,"body":"So, then, then, Duc will talk about doing a perineal erythrostomy, which is, we shorten"},{"startTime":1459.1200000000001,"endTime":1460.1200000000001,"body":"that because we don't like to say that."},{"startTime":1460.1200000000001,"endTime":1462.1000000000001,"body":"I wanted to call it a PU."},{"startTime":1462.1000000000001,"endTime":1464.0600000000002,"body":"So, and we don't do those very lightly."},{"startTime":1464.0600000000002,"endTime":1470.1000000000001,"body":"That's, it's a very barbaric, invasive, yep."},{"startTime":1470.1000000000001,"endTime":1471.1000000000001,"body":"Can't go back."},{"startTime":1471.1000000000001,"endTime":1472.1000000000001,"body":"- Yep."},{"startTime":1472.1000000000001,"endTime":1473.1000000000001,"body":"- Surgery."},{"startTime":1473.1000000000001,"endTime":1479.0200000000002,"body":"- And so, but what it does, so in the male cat there, your erythro is so tiny that things"},{"startTime":1479.0200000000002,"endTime":1483.3000000000002,"body":"get clogged and they're so easily and it doesn't even, it's like sand and debris sometimes."},{"startTime":1483.3000000000002,"endTime":1488.94,"body":"I mean, his was like a, like, the smallest grains of sand, but all just like a sand paste"},{"startTime":1488.94,"endTime":1489.94,"body":"in there, right?"},{"startTime":1489.94,"endTime":1490.94,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":1490.94,"endTime":1491.94,"body":"- And do like a tube."},{"startTime":1491.94,"endTime":1492.94,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":1492.94,"endTime":1494.9,"body":"- And try to ram it into the sandy beach, right?"},{"startTime":1494.9,"endTime":1498.42,"body":"And then you pick the straw up and it would be just everywhere."},{"startTime":1498.42,"endTime":1499.42,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":1499.42,"endTime":1501.42,"body":"All caked into the middle of the straw."},{"startTime":1501.42,"endTime":1502.42,"body":"- Yep."},{"startTime":1502.42,"endTime":1505.0200000000002,"body":"- And that's really hard to dislodge when that happens."},{"startTime":1505.0200000000002,"endTime":1509.5,"body":"And because they are considered a true emergency in veterinary medicine, it's something that"},{"startTime":1509.5,"endTime":1512.0600000000002,"body":"we try and like you were mentioning attack quickly."},{"startTime":1512.0600000000002,"endTime":1518.1000000000001,"body":"So, I think the PU was the, the right thing to do for this particular cat because he had"},{"startTime":1518.1000000000001,"endTime":1520.3000000000002,"body":"already had one previous episode."},{"startTime":1520.3000000000002,"endTime":1522.7800000000002,"body":"And whenever I'm working on these guys, that's it, right?"},{"startTime":1522.7800000000002,"endTime":1526.66,"body":"Like if I'm at the second episode, that's usually when I start talking about that."},{"startTime":1526.66,"endTime":1531.38,"body":"Certainly by the third episode because now at this point, you've paid for a PU."},{"startTime":1531.38,"endTime":1534.5800000000002,"body":"Like between the first and the second episode, you know, you're at the third episode."},{"startTime":1534.5800000000002,"endTime":1535.5800000000002,"body":"So."},{"startTime":1535.5800000000002,"endTime":1536.5800000000002,"body":"- Yeah."},{"startTime":1536.5800000000002,"endTime":1540.38,"body":"- And so basically what that is is we widen the erythra."},{"startTime":1540.38,"endTime":1547.38,"body":"So we pull the, we do a dissection around the pre-puse of the cat and then pull it all"},{"startTime":1547.38,"endTime":1551.7800000000002,"body":"the way through and dissect it up into the pelvic canal because further up into the pelvic"},{"startTime":1551.7800000000002,"endTime":1553.66,"body":"canal, the erythra is wider."},{"startTime":1553.66,"endTime":1559.26,"body":"So we amputate the penis and pull that erythra all the way through and tack it down so that"},{"startTime":1559.26,"endTime":1563.7,"body":"you have a wider area for the cat to pee through basically."},{"startTime":1563.7,"endTime":1568.1000000000001,"body":"And so then the hope is that because we don't see this problem in female cats."},{"startTime":1568.1000000000001,"endTime":1571.94,"body":"So then the thought is, okay, well now we can prevent this from happening."},{"startTime":1571.94,"endTime":1576.46,"body":"The one thing I will say about the surgery is you have to do it the right way."},{"startTime":1576.46,"endTime":1577.94,"body":"You cannot take a shortcut."},{"startTime":1577.94,"endTime":1583.0200000000002,"body":"You cannot chicken out and when you get into the pelvic canal, not pull the erythra far enough"},{"startTime":1583.0200000000002,"endTime":1584.8600000000001,"body":"forward."},{"startTime":1584.8600000000001,"endTime":1588.66,"body":"If you do that, you are basically, it's a death sentence for the cat."},{"startTime":1588.66,"endTime":1595.14,"body":"So it's not something that you should attempt to do without practicing on cadavers without"},{"startTime":1595.14,"endTime":1601.3000000000002,"body":"somebody also helping you to learn how to do it because you will want to stab your eyes"},{"startTime":1601.3000000000002,"endTime":1602.3000000000002,"body":"out."},{"startTime":1602.3000000000002,"endTime":1603.3000000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1603.3000000000002,"endTime":1605.3000000000002,"body":"Because you'll be like, I can't, I can't go any further up into the pelvic canal."},{"startTime":1605.3000000000002,"endTime":1606.3000000000002,"body":"I just can't."},{"startTime":1606.3000000000002,"endTime":1608.3000000000002,"body":"There's something I'm going to do something bad."},{"startTime":1608.3000000000002,"endTime":1609.8600000000001,"body":"I'm going to, but you have to."},{"startTime":1609.8600000000001,"endTime":1612.9,"body":"You cannot not do it."},{"startTime":1612.9,"endTime":1613.9,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1613.9,"endTime":1614.9,"body":"Because it's pointless."},{"startTime":1614.9,"endTime":1615.9,"body":"It's pointless."},{"startTime":1615.9,"endTime":1616.9,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1616.9,"endTime":1619.9,"body":"So, and, but it's an, it's an extensive surgery."},{"startTime":1619.9,"endTime":1623.5,"body":"It's an invasive surgery and it does come with its own set of complications."},{"startTime":1623.5,"endTime":1624.5,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":1624.5,"endTime":1626.5400000000002,"body":"So you're not out of the woods, post-op, right?"},{"startTime":1626.5400000000002,"endTime":1632.0200000000002,"body":"You still have two weeks of normal healing in general, but then you also have this residual"},{"startTime":1632.0200000000002,"endTime":1638.3400000000001,"body":"pain that the cat was going through, inflammation, spasming of the muscles in their urethra,"},{"startTime":1638.3400000000001,"endTime":1642.0600000000002,"body":"which can make the opening small or difficult to pee."},{"startTime":1642.0600000000002,"endTime":1645.18,"body":"And then the biggest complication of the surgery is a structure."},{"startTime":1645.18,"endTime":1646.18,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1646.18,"endTime":1652.8200000000002,"body":"So what happens is essentially that opening, I guess, gets small, still because of scar tissue"},{"startTime":1652.8200000000002,"endTime":1655.46,"body":"and inflammation."},{"startTime":1655.46,"endTime":1658.5,"body":"So Toby underwent both the procedures."},{"startTime":1658.5,"endTime":1664.38,"body":"He actually had the PU first and then I went in, Dr. Cloud did the PU and then I did the"},{"startTime":1664.38,"endTime":1666.38,"body":"sysautomy."},{"startTime":1666.38,"endTime":1673.5,"body":"So it was at that point, I was, you know, putting urinary catheters into flush the bladder,"},{"startTime":1673.5,"endTime":1675.18,"body":"flush all the crud out."},{"startTime":1675.18,"endTime":1679.6200000000001,"body":"So we just kind of kept them at time zero and I guess cleaned everything out to start a"},{"startTime":1679.6200000000001,"endTime":1681.6200000000001,"body":"new."},{"startTime":1681.6200000000001,"endTime":1684.6200000000001,"body":"He did pee the next morning, which was amazing."},{"startTime":1684.6200000000001,"endTime":1688.7800000000002,"body":"I literally was jumping up and down and it was a Friday."},{"startTime":1688.7800000000002,"endTime":1693.26,"body":"So we set him home because cats can be weird in hospital where they don't want to pee,"},{"startTime":1693.26,"endTime":1696.1000000000001,"body":"they don't want to eat, they're scared."},{"startTime":1696.1000000000001,"endTime":1703.0200000000002,"body":"And over the weekend he was peeing some, he was eating and we just, you know, you kind of"},{"startTime":1703.0200000000002,"endTime":1708.26,"body":"hold your breath for 10 to 12, 14 days because you just, unfortunately, you're just not in"},{"startTime":1708.26,"endTime":1709.26,"body":"the clear."},{"startTime":1709.26,"endTime":1710.26,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":1710.26,"endTime":1715.3000000000002,"body":"He did come back in yesterday because he had slowed down on his peeing, didn't really"},{"startTime":1715.3000000000002,"endTime":1717.42,"body":"want to eat much, seemed uncomfortable."},{"startTime":1717.42,"endTime":1723.7800000000002,"body":"So both Dr. Cloud and I evaluated him and he, we gave more pain meds because one of them"},{"startTime":1723.7800000000002,"endTime":1725.22,"body":"had worn off at that point."},{"startTime":1725.22,"endTime":1731.3400000000001,"body":"So we are wondering if he was just uncomfortable and then Dr. Cloud ended up giving him some"},{"startTime":1731.3400000000001,"endTime":1737.2800000000002,"body":"gas anesthesia to relax him and she was able to release a steady normal stream from his"},{"startTime":1737.2800000000002,"endTime":1740.3600000000001,"body":"bladder, but we did that because his bladder was pretty full."},{"startTime":1740.3600000000001,"endTime":1743.8400000000001,"body":"Like he had not peed and can't, we can't go through the same."},{"startTime":1743.8400000000001,"endTime":1747.88,"body":"He's blocked essentially not peeing and everything."},{"startTime":1747.88,"endTime":1754.96,"body":"So we re did his medications, his pain meds and realized that the litter, the type of litter"},{"startTime":1754.96,"endTime":1761.3600000000001,"body":"may have been a factor for him and then sent him home and just got an update that he's"},{"startTime":1761.3600000000001,"endTime":1763.5200000000002,"body":"still not acting quite like himself."},{"startTime":1763.5200000000002,"endTime":1768.8000000000002,"body":"But we're just going to hope that especially being at the home with the owner, he relaxes"},{"startTime":1768.8000000000002,"endTime":1770.8000000000002,"body":"and starts peeing."},{"startTime":1770.8000000000002,"endTime":1774.92,"body":"Then we added presence and so to relax is your re-thra."},{"startTime":1774.92,"endTime":1781.64,"body":"If his bladder was that distended, I mean he could have nerve damage to his bladder, I suppose,"},{"startTime":1781.64,"endTime":1787.24,"body":"as a possibility, but with the values that low, this kidney values that low, I'd put it lower"},{"startTime":1787.24,"endTime":1788.24,"body":"on the, you know what I mean?"},{"startTime":1788.24,"endTime":1791.48,"body":"It seems like he wasn't distended for some extended period of time."},{"startTime":1791.48,"endTime":1797.6000000000001,"body":"So if a cat stays, if their bladder stays stretched for an extended period of time, then they"},{"startTime":1797.6000000000001,"endTime":1799.96,"body":"end up with neurologic diseases, what we're talking about."},{"startTime":1799.96,"endTime":1806.0,"body":"So of their bladder, not of their body, but then they can't, their bladder doesn't operate"},{"startTime":1806.0,"endTime":1807.5200000000002,"body":"normally, doesn't can release."},{"startTime":1807.5200000000002,"endTime":1808.5200000000002,"body":"Yeah, it can't contract down."},{"startTime":1808.5200000000002,"endTime":1811.8000000000002,"body":"His bladder was very angry, very thick."},{"startTime":1811.8000000000002,"endTime":1817.64,"body":"It wasn't as red as I was expecting her bruise, but as I just even gently had to manipulate"},{"startTime":1817.64,"endTime":1819.44,"body":"it, it became more and more angry."},{"startTime":1819.44,"endTime":1821.44,"body":"So, yeah."},{"startTime":1821.44,"endTime":1822.44,"body":"He has crossed."},{"startTime":1822.44,"endTime":1824.5600000000002,"body":"I think he just needs a little bit more time, right?"},{"startTime":1824.5600000000002,"endTime":1825.92,"body":"Especially since his urine stream."},{"startTime":1825.92,"endTime":1827.88,"body":"And the drain board looked amazing yesterday."},{"startTime":1827.88,"endTime":1830.5600000000002,"body":"I mean, the whole surgery site looked fantastic."},{"startTime":1830.5600000000002,"endTime":1831.5600000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1831.5600000000002,"endTime":1836.3200000000002,"body":"So I, yeah, and we were able to, she was able to pass a catheter earlier in the day."},{"startTime":1836.3200000000002,"endTime":1840.6000000000001,"body":"I mean, it's just a function of time, I think, and getting him more functional in the bladder."},{"startTime":1840.6000000000001,"endTime":1841.6000000000001,"body":"And function of the bladder."},{"startTime":1841.6000000000001,"endTime":1843.8000000000002,"body":"I mean, that's the other thing we have to consider."},{"startTime":1843.8000000000002,"endTime":1845.8000000000002,"body":"So, I think it's important."},{"startTime":1845.8000000000002,"endTime":1849.16,"body":"Yeah, I think it's important to know that you don't have to do a pu surgery for cat"},{"startTime":1849.16,"endTime":1850.16,"body":"because it gets blocked."},{"startTime":1850.16,"endTime":1851.16,"body":"Correct."},{"startTime":1851.16,"endTime":1854.4,"body":"So, let's say in this cat scenario, there was debris."},{"startTime":1854.4,"endTime":1857.0400000000002,"body":"He was a stressed out cat."},{"startTime":1857.0400000000002,"endTime":1859.5200000000002,"body":"Diet is like the mainstay treatment or prevention."},{"startTime":1859.5200000000002,"endTime":1865.48,"body":"So it dissolves and keeps, dissolves any crystals, stones, whatever clutter can get in there."},{"startTime":1865.48,"endTime":1869.2800000000002,"body":"It helps the cat drink more water and flush out a system more."},{"startTime":1869.2800000000002,"endTime":1874.72,"body":"If the cat is also having these issues due to anxiety and stress, which he was also,"},{"startTime":1874.72,"endTime":1879.0400000000002,"body":"you put them on pro-zac and he was on it."},{"startTime":1879.0400000000002,"endTime":1882.5200000000002,"body":"But unfortunately, it just kind of depends on the cat as well, but you don't have to jump"},{"startTime":1882.5200000000002,"endTime":1884.48,"body":"into a pu."},{"startTime":1884.48,"endTime":1886.48,"body":"Usually though, you still need to have a systolic."},{"startTime":1886.48,"endTime":1887.48,"body":"So, we go in the bladder."},{"startTime":1887.48,"endTime":1889.68,"body":"Just they'll just get re-blocked exactly as well."},{"startTime":1889.68,"endTime":1890.68,"body":"Yeah, okay."},{"startTime":1890.68,"endTime":1891.68,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1891.68,"endTime":1892.68,"body":"Well, fingers crossed."},{"startTime":1892.68,"endTime":1893.68,"body":"Tobi."},{"startTime":1893.68,"endTime":1898.68,"body":"We'll give it Tobi update in the next podcast because we'll be out 10 to 14 days at that"},{"startTime":1898.68,"endTime":1899.68,"body":"point."},{"startTime":1899.68,"endTime":1900.68,"body":"Yep."},{"startTime":1900.68,"endTime":1901.68,"body":"So, yeah."},{"startTime":1901.68,"endTime":1902.68,"body":"Go, Tobi."},{"startTime":1902.68,"endTime":1903.68,"body":"Go."},{"startTime":1903.68,"endTime":1904.68,"body":"Send good vibes towards Tobi."},{"startTime":1904.68,"endTime":1905.68,"body":"That's right."},{"startTime":1905.68,"endTime":1906.68,"body":"Exactly."},{"startTime":1906.68,"endTime":1907.68,"body":"His bladder."},{"startTime":1907.68,"endTime":1908.68,"body":"His bladder."},{"startTime":1908.68,"endTime":1909.68,"body":"That's a very cool case."},{"startTime":1909.68,"endTime":1910.68,"body":"I love that case."},{"startTime":1910.68,"endTime":1916.96,"body":"It's got so much great information as far as things that we deal with and manage and everything."},{"startTime":1916.96,"endTime":1917.96,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1917.96,"endTime":1918.96,"body":"Where we on?"},{"startTime":1918.96,"endTime":1919.96,"body":"Listener questions."},{"startTime":1919.96,"endTime":1920.96,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1920.96,"endTime":1921.96,"body":"Hey, I love you guys."},{"startTime":1921.96,"endTime":1922.96,"body":"Thanks for your time."},{"startTime":1922.96,"endTime":1930.76,"body":"I am seeing only one side of the dog world talking about DCM and grain-free diets."},{"startTime":1930.76,"endTime":1932.5600000000002,"body":"None of them are practicing vets."},{"startTime":1932.5600000000002,"endTime":1934.88,"body":"I would love to hear your perspective."},{"startTime":1934.88,"endTime":1935.88,"body":"Kyle Gilliam."},{"startTime":1935.88,"endTime":1936.88,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1936.88,"endTime":1937.88,"body":"Cool."},{"startTime":1937.88,"endTime":1938.64,"body":"Thanks, Kyle."},{"startTime":1938.64,"endTime":1939.64,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1939.64,"endTime":1940.64,"body":"There's been a lot."},{"startTime":1940.64,"endTime":1945.8400000000001,"body":"Well, gosh, now, because we were doing some digging to see if anything had changed."},{"startTime":1945.8400000000001,"endTime":1946.8400000000001,"body":"That was 20."},{"startTime":1946.8400000000001,"endTime":1947.8400000000001,"body":"Would we say 18?"},{"startTime":1947.8400000000001,"endTime":1948.8400000000001,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1948.8400000000001,"endTime":1949.8400000000001,"body":"2018 when all that went down."},{"startTime":1949.8400000000001,"endTime":1950.8400000000001,"body":"That was five years ago."},{"startTime":1950.8400000000001,"endTime":1952.64,"body":"This COVID was like six years ago."},{"startTime":1952.64,"endTime":1953.64,"body":"Right?"},{"startTime":1953.64,"endTime":1954.64,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1954.64,"endTime":1955.64,"body":"20."},{"startTime":1955.64,"endTime":1956.64,"body":"Sorry."},{"startTime":1956.64,"endTime":1957.64,"body":"I can't you see it."},{"startTime":1957.64,"endTime":1958.64,"body":"It's a time warp with COVID."},{"startTime":1958.64,"endTime":1959.64,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1959.64,"endTime":1963.0800000000002,"body":"So, yeah, five, six years ago when all that came out."},{"startTime":1963.0800000000002,"endTime":1964.0800000000002,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1964.0800000000002,"endTime":1966.2,"body":"It started with a study of Golden Retrievers."},{"startTime":1966.2,"endTime":1971.4,"body":"And essentially, I'm not sure how this, if it was like, hey, we're finding this."},{"startTime":1971.4,"endTime":1972.4,"body":"Let's do a study on it."},{"startTime":1972.4,"endTime":1975.3600000000001,"body":"I think it was one 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okay."},{"startTime":2031.16,"endTime":2032.16,"body":"There we go."},{"startTime":2032.16,"endTime":2033.92,"body":"Pull that from the depths of whatever."},{"startTime":2033.92,"endTime":2034.92,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2034.92,"endTime":2036.96,"body":"So those are the breeds that we most commonly see it in."},{"startTime":2036.96,"endTime":2037.96,"body":"Primary."},{"startTime":2037.96,"endTime":2038.96,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2038.96,"endTime":2042.4,"body":"So you can see when these people started showing up with gold retrievers, yeah, with"},{"startTime":2042.4,"endTime":2043.4,"body":"dilated cardiomyopathy."},{"startTime":2043.4,"endTime":2044.4,"body":"I should be in the DCM."},{"startTime":2044.4,"endTime":2046.72,"body":"That's what we call DCM, like we call it PU."},{"startTime":2046.72,"endTime":2047.72,"body":"Yep."},{"startTime":2047.72,"endTime":2048.72,"body":"DCM."},{"startTime":2048.72,"endTime":2049.72,"body":"It's like, what?"},{"startTime":2049.72,"endTime":2050.72,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2050.72,"endTime":2052.04,"body":"Because gold is to have enough of their own issues."},{"startTime":2052.04,"endTime":2053.04,"body":"They don't need another one."},{"startTime":2053.04,"endTime":2054.52,"body":"They're the poster child for lymphoma."},{"startTime":2054.52,"endTime":2058.4,"body":"So, or just, or just kids."},{"startTime":2058.4,"endTime":2059.4,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":2059.4,"endTime":2060.4,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2060.4,"endTime":2061.4,"body":"So, yeah."},{"startTime":2061.4,"endTime":2062.4,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2062.4,"endTime":2063.4,"body":"Then they were like, what's going on?"},{"startTime":2063.4,"endTime":2064.4,"body":"This is not normal."},{"startTime":2064.4,"endTime":2070.7599999999998,"body":"So, longs or short, they got to the diet and the grain-free diet or the lagoon-based 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that"},{"startTime":2414.2799999999997,"endTime":2415.2799999999997,"body":"long."},{"startTime":2415.2799999999997,"endTime":2419.3199999999997,"body":"So as far as like creating the, creating it, yeah, exactly."},{"startTime":2419.3199999999997,"endTime":2420.3199999999997,"body":"So agree."},{"startTime":2420.3199999999997,"endTime":2421.3199999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2421.3199999999997,"endTime":2422.3199999999997,"body":"I mean, great question."},{"startTime":2422.3199999999997,"endTime":2423.3199999999997,"body":"Great question."},{"startTime":2423.3199999999997,"endTime":2424.3199999999997,"body":"Hopefully."},{"startTime":2424.3199999999997,"endTime":2425.3199999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2425.3199999999997,"endTime":2426.3199999999997,"body":"Hopefully."},{"startTime":2426.3199999999997,"endTime":2427.3199999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2427.3199999999997,"endTime":2428.3199999999997,"body":"Hopefully."},{"startTime":2428.3199999999997,"endTime":2429.3199999999997,"body":"The long of the short."},{"startTime":2429.3199999999997,"endTime":2430.3199999999997,"body":"Don't put, yeah, okay."},{"startTime":2430.3199999999997,"endTime":2431.3199999999997,"body":"The don't."},{"startTime":2431.3199999999997,"endTime":2432.3199999999997,"body":"Oh gosh."},{"startTime":2432.3199999999997,"endTime":2433.3199999999997,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2433.3199999999997,"endTime":2434.3199999999997,"body":"Cool."},{"startTime":2434.3199999999997,"endTime":2436.3199999999997,"body":"You want to do that?"},{"startTime":2436.3199999999997,"endTime":2437.3199999999997,"body":"Sure."},{"startTime":2437.3199999999997,"endTime":2438.3199999999997,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2438.3199999999997,"endTime":2439.3199999999997,"body":"I can find it."},{"startTime":2439.3199999999997,"endTime":2440.3199999999997,"body":"Hold on."},{"startTime":2440.3199999999997,"endTime":2441.3199999999997,"body":"I know how my glasses are."},{"startTime":2441.3199999999997,"endTime":2443.92,"body":"I know this is really, yeah, treacherous."},{"startTime":2443.92,"endTime":2446.8799999999997,"body":"Thank you so much for tuning into another episode of the veterinary roundtable."},{"startTime":2446.8799999999997,"endTime":2450.3199999999997,"body":"Remember sending those questions and leave us a review if you enjoyed this episode or"},{"startTime":2450.3199999999997,"endTime":2451.3199999999997,"body":"a previous one."},{"startTime":2451.3199999999997,"endTime":2454.16,"body":"We'll see you next time for another episode of the veterinary roundtable."},{"startTime":2454.16,"endTime":2455.16,"body":"See you."},{"startTime":2455.16,"endTime":2456.16,"body":"Bye bye."},{"startTime":2456.16,"endTime":2458.74,"body":"(upbeat music)"},{"startTime":2458.74,"endTime":2460.98,"body":"(upbeat music)"}]}